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Hezbollah guerillas inflicting heavy casualties on Israelis
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by Boris der Schreckliche (no login)now you come here with 14 killed IDF soldiers
BUT the source of this "information" is ...Hezbollah
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Macedonian language course
by Anonymous (no login)Grant of the King Cassander to Cherephanes According to Kassander's royal decision, Cherephanes son of Aischylos and his descendants are released of tax on importing and exporting products, when they sell or buy them, except of those intended for marine trade. From Ν. Potidaia, Chalkidiki. Ancient Kassandreia. 305-297 B.C.
Honorary decree issued by the city of Kalindoia.The city probably honours two citizens for their benefections. The three politarchs, board of magistrates, introduce the subject for discussion to the council and then they convene the assembly which vote the draft of law. Kalamoto, Thessaloniki. Ancient Kalindoia. c. 100 B.C.
Dedication of the city to the Imperator Claudius.It is an example of the worship of the Emperor in Roman times. The plaque with the dedication probably coated the pedestral of the statue of the God - Emperor. Thessaloniki, 46 A.D.
Poem of the Thessalonician poet Damaios devoted to the demon Osiris. The poem describes the scene of the death of the god as it is known from the prevailing mythological tradition. Thessaloniki, Sarapeion. Βefore the end of the 2nd cent. B.C
Thessaloniki, end of 2nd century AD.
Base of a statue of queen Thessaloniki, found in the library of the area of the roman agora of Thessaloniki. You can read on it the words Queen Thessaloniki of Philippos, in Greek characters:
(Archaeological Museum of Thessaloniki)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pella_katadesmos
The Pella katadesmos is a katadesmos (Greek: κατάδεσμος) (a curse, or magic spell) inscribed on a lead scroll, dating to the 4th or 3rd century BC. It was found in Pella (at the time capital of Macedon) in 1986 and published in the Hellenic Dialectology Journal in 1993. It is possibly the only attested text in the ancient Macedonian language (O. Masson).
It is a magic spell or love charm written by a woman, possibly named Dagina, whose lover Dionysophōn (i.e. "Voice of Dionysus") is apparently about to marry Thetima (i.e. "she who honors the gods"; the standard Attic form would be Theotimē). She invokes "Makron and the demons" (parkattithemai makrōni kai [tois] daimosi, Attic would be para-kata-tithemai) to cause Dionysophon to marry her rather than Thetima, and never to marry another woman unless she herself recovers and unrolls the scroll.
Katadesmoi were spells written on non-perishable material, such as lead, stone or baked clay, and were secretly buried to ensure their physical integrity, which would then guarantee the permanence of their intended effects.
The language is a harsh but distinctly recognizable form of North-West or Doric Greek, and the low social status of its writer, as evidenced by her vocabulary and belief in magic, strongly hint that a unique form of Doric Greek was spoken by lay people in Pella at the time the tab was written (see below, Dating and Significance). Brixhe and Panayotou (1994:209) think a Macedonian origin of the text probable, but they point out that the population of Pella was not homogenously autochthonic, and they prefer to wait for a second find before making a definitive statement.
Even before the discovery of the Pella katadesmos in 1986, it was noted that Doric Greek may have been spoken in pre-Hellenistic Macedon as a second dialect in addition to a Macedonian dialect
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What happened to all the ending SKI's.?? You mean there is NO "J" in MAKEDONIA??
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sorry, no "J" ...Serbia didn't exist back then to replace their bulgarian reversed "R
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Mr. Anonymous can we use KUZMANS TIME TRAVEL MACHINE and go back and Find our J's & SKI's?
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for our dear -skis of FYROM
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http://www.livius.org/greece.html
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YUGOBULGARIAN BASTARDS!==>THIS IS THE TESTAMENT!OF THE ANCIENT MACEDONIANS! & NOT YOUR
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YUGOBULGARIAN BASTARDS!==>THIS IS THE TESTAMENT!OF THE ANCIENT MACEDONIANS! & NOT YOUR
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SO, if you are "macedonian", why don't you call it with its ancient name?
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http://ancienthistory.about.com/library/bl/bl_thessalonica.htm
Thessalonica
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Definition: In its heyday, Thessalonica was one of the great ports of the Mediterranean world, but the city of Thessalonica wasn't founded until 315 B.C., when Cassander (the son of Antipater and husband of Alexander's half-sister) was ruling Macedonia. At the time Philip II succeeded to the throne, Macedonia was still completely landlocked and had to depend on the goodwill of other cities for access to the sea. This put Macedonia at a grave commercial disadvantage, and Philip set out to rectify the situation by taking over first Amphipolis and then Pydna in 357 B.C. He then proceeded to extend his control over the Chalcidice peninsula by 348 BC. It was on the west side of this peninsula that Thessalonica was eventually founded over 30 years later.
~KL47
http://www.ling.ohio-state.edu/~bjoseph/articles/gancient.htm
This expansion of Attic led to the adoption of some non-Attic features by users of the dialect, even in Attica. This dialect mixing represented the beginnings of the koine dialektos, or "common dialect", more usually referred to simply as the Koine, as Koine Greek, or as Hellenistic Greek (after the historical period in which it arose). With the rise of the Macedonian Empire in the 4th century and the decision of Philip II of Macedonia to adopt (the modified) Attic as the official administrative language of his state, and with the subsequent expansion of Macdeonian influence under his son Alexander the Great, the Greek language, in its emerging Koine Greek form, was spread throughout Asia Minor, Egypt, Syria and the Levant, Mesopotamia, and Persia.
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by Anonymous (no login)common name of sister-queens in Egypt under the Ptolemaic Dynasty. The name is Gk., probably meaning "key to the fatherland," from khleis "key" + patris. The famous queen was the seventh of that name.
http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?term=Cleopatra
Macedonia
from L. Macedonius "Macedonian," from Gk. Makedones, lit. "highlanders" or "the tall ones," related to makednos "long, tall," makros "long, large."
http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?search=Macedonia&searchmode=none
http://ancienthistory.about.com/library/bl/bl_maps_greece_550.htm
Map of Ancient Greece around 550 B.C.
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http://ancienthistory.about.com ---> FAMOUS GREEKS
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Ancient / Classical History
> Ancient Greece> Famous Figures> Greek Men and Women Greeks - Famous Greek Men and Women
Famous ancient Greeks. Ancient Athenians and Spartans, mostly, with some from Lesbos and other Greek islands.
Subtopics
Alexander the Great @ Olympian Goddesses @ Atreus Olympian Gods @ Greek Women @ Pelopidas @ Legendary Heroes @ Philosophers @ Lysias (3) Timoleon @
http://ancienthistory.about.com/od/alexanderarticles/
Hellenistic Greece
Alexander the Great spread Greek culture throughout the area he conquered. This period of history is referred to as Hellenistic and follows the Classical.
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HEY!!!!!! SLAVOSKOPJIANS LOOK
by Anonymous (no login)http://library.thinkquest.org/10805/alexmap.html
Map of Alexander's Empire
This map shows the vast empire conquered by Alexander the Great in red highlight. The extent of the empire is an approximation of 320 BC.
King Philip II of Macedon took advantage of the feuding between Greek city states to take control of all of Greece. Upon his assasination, his son, Alexander the Great inherited Philip II's realm. During Alexander's life he expanded the empire to stretch through Egypt and parts of India. Alexander the Great's empire was crippled after his death. From his empire, three main Hellenistic civilizations emerged: Ptolemaic Egypt, Macedon, and Seleucid Syria. The seperate kindoms flourished in education, but internal rivalries led to the fall of each to Roman conquerers.
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This map shows the Greek settlements c550 BC
550 BC was during the Archaic Period of Greek History. During this period of time the Greeks began exploration for agricultural land. Sea trade increased substantially throughout the mediterranean, and colonization of new regions began. It is estimated that around this time period, there were nearly 700 different city states of Greek population. The trade with other nations changed the Greek culture as reflected in the artwork, pottery, statues, and by the adoption of coinage.
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by Anonymous (no login)from, "Syria, History"
http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/syria/history.htm
Enormous numbers of Greek immigrants flocked to the Kingdom of Syria. Syrian trade was vastly expanded as a result of the newcomers' efforts, reaching into India, the Far East, and Europe. The Greeks built new cities in Syria and colonized existing ones. Syrian and Greek cultures synthesized to create Near Eastern Hellenism, noted for remarkable developments in jurisprudence, philosophy, and science.
ABOVE, WHERE IT SAYS "GREEKS" IT IS ABOUT THE ARMY OF ATG
DOES THE TOPONYM BELLOW RING ANY BELLS BULGARS? ---> "EDESSA" --- IF YOUR BULGARIAN TOPONYMS THAT YOU GIVE TODAY TO OUR CITIES IN OUR REAL MACEDONIA ARE INDEED "MACEDONIAN", THEN WHY DO CITIES IN SYRIA BEAR THE NAMES OF GREEKS CITIES AS THEY ARE IN GREEK? SYRIAN CITIES, FOUNDED AND/OR DEVELOPED BY ATG, YOU IDIOTS
http://www.ntcanon.org/Edessa.shtml
Edessa, Syria The town lies in the fertile plain of Haran, ringed by limestone hills on three sides. It controls the strategic pass to the south, through which runs a road from Anatolia to northern Mesopotamia, which has been used since antiquity. The town in the 2nd millennium BCE was probably the chief city of a Hurrian state destroyed by the Hittites in the 14th century. Traditions of its earliest foundation associate the site with the legendary king Nimrod, and Muslim legend associates the place with Abraham; a cave beneath Urfa's citadel is said to be Abrahams's birthplace.
The Aramaic name, Urhai, was changed to Edessa when it was refounded as a military settlement in the 3rd century BCE. Freeing itself from imposed Hellenism, Edessa, as capital of the principality of Osroλne, was one of the main centers of Syrian culture; it figured prominently in the conflicts between Parthia and Rome.
Alexander the Great and the Hellenistic Empire 333 - 64BC:
The defeat of Darius by the great leader Alexander of Macedonia was the beginning of Western rule over Syria. The Hellenistic Empire combined both Western and Eastern cultures but with a predominantly Greek system and outlook. After Alexander's death, Greater Syria was divided into two empires one under Ptolemy, the other under Seleucus. Contemporary Syria was under the Seleucids. The Seleucids built Apamea as their Military base using Latakia as their main port. They also built the fortress of Doura Europos. All these cities were built under Greek architectural design and planning. At the end of this period came the Arab Nabateans from the south taking over Damascus and Bosra, while the Romans came from the north.
http://www.syriagate.com/Syria/about/general/history.htm
Edessa, Greece
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Edessa is a small town (population 15,000) in central Macedonia (the Greek one, not the so-called country). It is located a few miles west of Pella, the ancient Macedonian capital.
http://www.cogsci.indiana.edu/farg/harry/geo/edessa.htm
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by Anonymous (no login)http://www.royalty.nu/Europe/Balkan/Alexander.html
Alexander the Great's father, Philip, was the brother of King Perdiccas III of Macedon or Macedonia, in northern Greece. In 359 B.C., King Perdiccas died. His young son Amyntas was expected to succeed him, with Philip as his regent, but Philip usurped his nephew's throne, making himself King Philip II. He proved to be a strong ruler, and in a few decades he conquered most of Greece.
Philip's wife was Olympias, daughter of King Neoptolemus I of Epirus, which was located in what is now southern Albania and northwest Greece. Their son Alexander was born in 356 B.C. Alexander had a younger sister, Cleopatra (not the famous Egyptian queen).
"Macedonia is also part of Greece" Stravon - the great geographer of 1st century B.C.
skopjians, your country was a part of early Yugoslavia, called Vardar Banovina, or simply Vardarska.
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from the official website of the EU
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Macedonia is already in the EU, no space for a second (fake one)...Belgrade had no idea early last century that the Bulgarian minority of south Serbia would seek EU membership and the EU (and Greece as its membere state) would exist.
It's so simple...you'll have to change your name at some point..and abandon any referrences about ATG, Philip etc, from your lying websites. We are not in a hurry...when the time comes, we'll make you comform to reality or we'll make you suffer
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independently of how some countries call FYROM, as "Macedonia", this is only temporary
by Anonymous (no login)Officially, you are still FYROM...enjoy the hallucination of being "Macedonia" while it lasts...we'll force you to change it...sooner or later...AND THAT'S WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN WHETHER YOU LIKE IT OR NOT. Either die of poverty and fall prey to the Albanian appetite (which will grow bigger once your admittance to the EU will be blocked by Greece if you dont change your name) or prosper while respecting the history and symbols of your neighbors. Time is ticking...
http://ec.europa.eu/comm/enlargement/fyrom/index.htm
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those generic Fyromians will do anything to steal their neighbors' history and symbols
by Anonymous (no login)26 July 2006 | 07:39
On September 8, 2006 Macedonia will have had 15 teenage years of independence behind it.
What happened in these 15 years:
- In 1991 Bulgaria refused to participate in a three-party conference with Greece and Yugoslavia on the future of Macedonia without the presence of Macedonian representatives
- In January 1992 Bulgaria became the first to recognize the independence of Macedonia
- In 1992 Russia recognized Macedonia under its constitutional name during a visit of the President Yeltsin in Sofia
- In 1992 Bulgaria granted its diplomatic missions and representative offices for presenting and lobbying for Macedonia’s accession to the UN
- In 1992 Bulgaria provided a “green corridor” for supplying Macedonia with fuel during the Greek economic blockade surrounding the conflict on the name of Macedonia
- In 1999 Bulgaria granted 150 tanks and 150 artillery systems to Macedonia
- during the Kosovo crisis in the spring of 1999 Bulgaria refused economic assistance to Macedonia
- During the war in 2001 Bulgaria rendered economic, political and logistics assistance to Macedonia in the fields of state, economic, political and public life in view of the fast integration of the country to international institutions and organizations, in its preparation for NATO membership and implementing the requirements of the EU
What Macedonia did:
- Created the problem – if you recognize the independence of the country, will you recognize the nation?
- Created the language conflict
- Drew images of Bulgarian statesmen onto the maps of San Stefano Bulgaria
- Sold the fuel imported from Bulgaria because of the Greek Embargo to Yugoslavia at three-times-higher price
- Chased away journalists, covering the Parliamentary elections in 1998
- Made Bulgaria a constant issue for its inner-party fights. Started to publicly use phrases, which use the name of Bulgaria in a negative aspect
- Sold the tanks granted by Bulgaria after it announced they were old and useless
- Constantly wanted to register party of the so-called Macedonian minority in Bulgaria
- Small, smaller and smallest Macedonian leaders blamed Bulgaria for stealing history, museum treasures, personalities, etc.
http://www.focus-fen.net/index.php?focus=scan&sid=1098
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actualy, "Fyromia" and "Fyromian" sounds Truer than Macedonia/n, which they try
by Anonymous (no login)a new Balkan state
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12 Israeli soldiers died yesterday....Ariel Sharon is dying
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Hezbollah propaganda...
by Boris der Schreckliche (no login)The IDF was involved in efforts Wednesday to retrieve the casualties, even as the heavy clashes continued.
The troops became involved in close-quarter fighting with Hezbollah guerillas in the early hours of Wednesday, despite taking control of the town a day earlier. The fighting has been going on since.
On Tuesday, IDF infantry and armored corps soldiers surrounded the Hezbollah stronghold, but decided against seizing the entire town.
Military officials said Golani Brigade infantry troops had surrounded the village Tuesday, imposed a closure and took some houses on the outskirts.
"There is fighting from every direction, including from the air. We are hitting terrorists, we have also taken several prisoners in this fighting. The enemy has more than a few casualties, and overall we are now stabilizing the situation to completely take over the village," Lieutenant Colonel Itzik Ronen, a deputy brigade commander of a unit operating in the area, told Army Radio.
Eight IDF soldiers were lightly wounded in fighting in the area early Tuesday and seven of them were evacuated to hospitals in Israel. Fifteen soldiers remain hospitalized in Nahariya from earlier battles with Hezbollah.
Also Wednesday, Prime Minister Ehud Olmert told United Nations Secretary-General Kofi Annan that he has ordered a thorough investigation into an Israel Air Force strike on a UN base in southern Lebanon, in which four peacekeepers were killed.
Israel Air Force jets struck 15 rocket-launching sites northeast of the Lebanese town of Tyre on Tuesday morning as well as various Hezbollah targets, including vehicles, weapons storage sites and close to 18 buildings used by the Shi'a organization's operatives all over Lebanon.
http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/743027.html
OTHER THAN THE IMPOTENT HIZBOLLAH PROPAGANDA, THE IDF IS INFORMING DAILY ABOUT THE KIA CASUALTIES AND THERE IS NO INFORMATION ABOUT 12 KILLED SOLDIERS IN TUESDAY.
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FACK THE JEWS TOGETHER WITH THE SANDNIG ERS..AND THE BLGRS..
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You're right Boris.....It was 9 KIA, 8 of them being in one incident....
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Bolgharian MOTHERFVCKERS...
by Feniks Makedonski (no login)Skopje, July 24 (MIA) - The President of the European Free Alliance (EFA), Nelly Maes, sent letter on July 18 to European Enlargement Commissioner Olli Rehn, demanding recognition of Macedonian minority in Bulgaria at state level and granting them support that they can benefit from all the rights guaranteed under the framework convention of minorities, OMO Ilinden - Pirin says in a press release on Monday.
"Our request therefore, to the European Commission, is to monitor, in the framework of the accession talks, the rights of all peaceful and democratic parties, associations or organisations who represent the people or specifically minority groups to register. They have the right to respect, to their own opinion and to gather peacefully. Most particularly we ask you to monitor the situation in the following weeks enabling the OMO Ilinden PIRIN party to register," the letter reads.
"Having been informed of the last judgement of the European Court of Human Rights (ECHR), I am happy to hear that the ban of this party will have to be lifted. As the ECHR declared (20.10.2005): The ECHR stated that: the Bulgarian government, even after a first judgement of this same court, failed to assure the right of association of the Omo Pirin," Maes says in the letter to Rehn.
"In Delchev on the 25th of June 2006, the members of Omo llinden Pirin elected a new leadership in order to re-register their party. This caused hysteria in the press and some officials thought it was necessary to threaten the collective group of Macedonians living in Bulgaria, using words as "ethnic group." The municipality adviser in Varna, Veselin Danov, said that "They have to be shot on the street," the deputies Boris Iachev and Krasimir Karakachanov called "that They have to be send straight into prison" and the mayor of Blagoevgrad, Lazar Prichkapov requested "all Macedonians to be expelled from Bulgaria," reads the letter.
Some parties denied the right to Omo Llinden Pirin to register although the highest EU Court has already declared twice that it is the parties right to do so. We believe that this climate of hatred is not beneficial to anyone and on the other side we sincerely believe that a swift recognition of the mentioned party could lead to more mutual respect in Bulgaria," the letter reads.
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i can't belive this...
by stefanos.gr (no login)ts ts ts...
i can definately ensure you that such "advisers" (they probably mean an elected member of the city council) do not exists in Greece, at least they are not elected in such positions...
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by Boris der Schreckliche (no login)DO YOU REALIZE NOW, THAT I'M A MODERATE LIBERAL BULGARIAN?
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boris you`r a stinky boulgaropoutana .
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BulgoCOCKSUCKING boris do ALL BulgAAAAAAAAAARs like it with VASELINE??
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hahaha... yes indeed!!!
by stefanos.gr (no login)But, fortunately, i belive that the vast majority of the bulgarian people are even more "liberal and moderate" in comparison with you...
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HAHAHAHAHA.. imagine you would be in such a position....
by Nikos (no login)puuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuh i never come again to Stuttgart
Regards
Nikos
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I cant believe his name VASELINE Danov?? One of those...
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We really want to be with you SlavoSkopians, but you don't deserve it ...
by (Login istor)Anyway, if Greece had no problem with your country's name, I would suggest Bulgaria to accept all your terms and conditions, that is to SlavoSkopianize Bulgaria and Bulgarians !!
Maybe the first step is when you celebrate Ilinden day with Bulgarians! They have to read for and to you that famous telegram of Dame Gruev to Sofia!!
Istor
Solun or Thessaloniki?
Conflict about Macedonian name
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Balkan tension are a brewing
by Corn on the Cob (no login)http://www.focus-fen.net/index.php?catid=123&newsid=92927&ch=0&datte=2006-07-26
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I told you Pete....
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Feniks GO TIME TRAVELING WITH KUZMAN...Bring back SLAVIC artifacts..DICKHEADS....
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FYROMIAN DOG
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FACK FENIKS BULGAROFSKI
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VARDASKA BANANOVINA IS ONLY 21% MAKEDONIAN SOIL... WE WANT THE 21% BACK
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FYROM AND 1/2 BLGRIA BELONGS TO US. WE MUST LIBERATE IT.
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the Greeks invested 11,3 bill $ last year on new ships
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tensions between Bulgaria and "mini-me" bulgaria (FYROM)
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BULLSH;T...
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what do you mean? That you will prove that the ancient legacies in Greek territory
by Anonymous (no login)All these, when you are slavs who speak and write Bulgarian and 100 years ago no one knew of any "macedonian nation" except an ancient Greek Dorian tribe in what's today Northern Greece?
What are you going to do? Take over northern Greece? And if you are able to do that, how will explain to your future "visitros" and " tourists" the Greek inscriptions and legacy those ancient Macedonian sites so unmistakably present and then contrast all these to your cyrrilic alphabet and Bulgarian dialect?
See you when you'll be begging for NATO and EU membership.
The truth will shine
did he speak your west Bulgarian dialect? Plus, what does Alex - Ander mean in your language? because it doesn mean a lot in the Greek language. And if such art such as below, exist in today's Greek territory, then where is it in your Fyromian territory, assuming FYROM is a chunk of the greater Macedonia? Why do almost all these artifacts look so Greek and lie exclussively in Greek territory? What happenned and there are no such artifacts in Fyromian soil? Could it be that it/you were never Macedonian?
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SEE==>THE ABSOLUTE TRUTH!==>SHUT THE FVCKUP SKOPIAN LYING BASTARD!
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Greece expecting 16 million tourist arrivals this year.....
by Prometheus (no login)The goal is 20 million by 2015.
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Well done (it look s so)
by Nikos (no login)Regards Promtehus!
--->Eise kala?
Nikos
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it'll break the 20million threshold sooner than 2015
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Shalom Kofi... IDF has a message for you
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An Israeli bomb destroyed a UN observer post on the border in southern Lebanon on Tuesday, killing four peacekeepers. UN chief Kofi Annan said Israel appeared to have struck the site deliberately.
The dead included observers from Canada, Austria, China and Finland, a senior Lebanese military official said, speaking on condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to release the information to the media.
The bomb made a direct hit on the building and shelter of the observer post in the town of Khiyam near the eastern end of the border with Israel, said Milos Struger, spokesman for the UN peacekeeping force in Lebanon known as UNIFIL.
A UN official in New York City said four people were confirmed killed. He spoke on condition of anonymity because the information had not been formally released. Annan said two UN military observers were killed with two more feared dead. He refused to identify the peacekeepers until next of kin have been notified.
Rescue workers were trying to clear the rubble but Israeli firing ``continued even during the rescue operation," Struger said.
As reports of the attack emerged, Annan rushed out of a hotel in Rome following a dinner with U.S. Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice and Lebanese Prime Minister Fuad Saniora.
"I am shocked and deeply distressed by the apparently deliberate targeting by Israeli Defence Forces of a UN observer post in southern Lebanon," Annan said in a statement later.
Annan said in his statement the post had been there for a long time and was marked clearly, and was hit despite assurances from Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert that UN positions would not be attacked.
"I call on the government of Israel to conduct a full investigation into this very disturbing incident and demand that any further attack on UN positions and personnel must stop," Annan said in the statement.
UN OBSERVER POST WORKING AS SPOTTERS FOR THE LOCAL HIZBOLLAH UNIT...
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UN IS A JOKE! IT'S RUN BY USA!IT HAS NO CREDIBILITY==>AND HAS NO BALLS!
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MUSIC FROM EPIRUS...(Music an other HELLENIC WORD)
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EPIRUS and MACEDONIA (an other HELLENIC word), it is a great honour to PROTECT you...
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ΩΡΕ, ΠΟΥ ΕΙΝΑΙ ΟΙ ΗΠΕΙΡΩΤΕΣ;
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Pou eisai re papa-TSAKNIA, Na mas AGIASEIS?...
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PAGAN....
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Eklisa...
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MALON 8A AGIAZI TON FENIX KE TIN MANA TOU...hahahahahaha.
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16 million tourists expected in Ellada in 2006
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100.000 OF THEM ARE POUTANES FROM VARDASKA BANANOVINA..
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BREAKING NEWS......!!!! HERE IS A PIC OF FENIX BULGAROFSKI.
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IS HE A REAL MAKEDONAS..!! OR WHAT ???
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HE CAN EVN TALK LIKE ARISTOTELOFSKI........!!!!!! hahahahhahahaha
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He is so cute!!!!! Finikaki can't be so sweet.U make a mistake.Can U f*ck this creature???
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Hezbollah Says Israeli Response a Surprise (crying monkeys)
by Danish Cartoon Commando (no login)Mahmoud Komati, deputy chief of Hezbollah's political arm, also told The Associated Press in an interview that his group will not lay down arms.
"The truth is let me say this clearly we didn't even expect (this) response.... that (Israel) would exploit this operation for this big war against us," said Komati.
He said Hezbollah had expected "the usual, limited response" from Israel to the July 12 cross-border raid, in which three Israelis were killed.
In the past, he said, Israeli responses to Hezbollah actions included sending commandos into Lebanon to seize Hezbollah officials or briefly targeting specific Hezbollah strongholds.
He said the Shiite group had anticipated there would be negotiations on exchanging the Israeli soldiers for three Lebanese prisoners in Israeli jails, with Germany acting as a mediator as it did before.
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In a democracy, vo(mi)ting is very important!
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Filip dear, shouldnt you tell those illiterate propagandists ...
by (Login istor)I mean, if you respect yourself, why you should hide this truth from your fellow propagandists? Are you another Tito?
Istor
Solun or Thessaloniki?
Conflict about Macedonian name
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Filip M with your ackward language. When shall you realize that quantity doesn't make...
by (no login)When shall you realize that with some 32 letters, you still spell "Aleksandar" instead of "Alexandar"? When shall you realize that you stiil have fewer vowels than us, but more consonants, because your ackward language cannot do without them?
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POTE 8A ISE STIN TOUSLA PETRO ;;
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Maybe as soon as tomorrow. I have a pending issue to resolve.
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Petro check mail.
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The point is that even with those 32 letters they cannot write Thessaloniki in Macedonian
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We need to Create a couple more letters for them...
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For PetroFly only. Have a nice evening my friend.
by Filip M (no login)Στανι μομε δα ζαιγρασι
δα τε γλεδαμ βεσελ υασ,
τσιιφτε, τσιαμτσιε ιγριβο ---
νασιε ορο ουμπαβο. 2χ
Ο πανινανιναυ νιναυ ναυ ---
νιναναυ μιλο μομε νιναναυ 2χ
Ιζβι μομε σναγατα τι
τβουτα σναγα ουμπαβα,
δα τε γλεδαμ δα πευαμ ---
οτι σαμο εδνασι ζιιβεαμ. 2χ
Ο πανινανιναυ νιναυ ναυ ---
νιναναυ μιλο μομε νιναναυ. 2χ
Σαμο εδνασι σε ζιιβεε
νοβου ζιιβοτ λαζιοβεν,
δουρ σουμ σουμ ζιιβ δα σε ραδβαμ --
ι δα ουμραμ δα νε ζιαλαμ. 2χ
Ο πανινανιναυ νιναυ ναυ ---
νιναναυ μιλο μομε νιναναυ. 2χ
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Hey FREAK is this KLINGON language I bet you Time traveled with Pasko Kuzman..
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TRLA8IKE O BOULGAROS. BLGR IS GETING INSINE..! hahahahahahahahahahahaha
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Loxia what do you think of this FREAK?? Hes Kuzmans partner in Time Travel..
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he is some BLGR from, ASHBURN, Virginia, United States
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Hey Flip..How is the translation of the DOUBLE SUPER SECRET ARCHAIC SLAVIC SIGN LANGUAGE??
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SCOOTER, don't you think that it sounds like a HORNY DONKEY unsatified?...
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Hey thats Entertainment in Skopia..
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SCOOTER. FENIX IS THE BEST OF ALL OF THEM. HE CAN MAKE YOU LAUGHT, LIKE GERRY.
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Loxia O poystis exei xathi...He comes in does his thing and runs like hell..
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Filip we Greeks can easily read Cyrillic...
by (Login istor)Who does one write Thessaloniki in Cyrillic??
Istor
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What else would a Greek making the Klingon Alphabet base it on.. but GREEK..
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All we have to do is to inform wikipedia of their fabrications:
by (no login)...They won't be able to post anything for quite a long time...
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I HAVE SEEN MANY nice questions and answers posted by you...BUT THIS IS THE NUMBER 1...
by PAGAN (Der Heide) (no login)The design seems perfect...But how are you thinking to get such a thing in operation?
Why should they believe you?...
Just a remark.
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They should believe the University that has a copy of the letter...
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Now goes closer to fit the reality...
by PAGAN (Der Heide) (no login)Is there something that we can can do?
Let us know.
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I am going to think of it later. Maybe I shall be leaving for Touzla tomorrow.
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BRAVOSOU FILE! GOOD JOB!
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God bless the IDF!
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Israeli soldiers on an armored vehicle hold a Lebanese and Hezbollah flags taken during fighting in southern Lebanon as they cross over the border into Israel near the northern Israeli town of Avivim Tuesday, July 25, 2006.
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GODS are busy now...THEY cann't bless right now...
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ISTOR KAI PETROS OI SKOPIANOMALAKIES SINEXIZONTE.
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I know. I have turned to the Pontiki already, but we can also utilize wikipedia on our sid
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Invate and destroy FYROM for good..this is what i prefer.
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Kai emeis apantame !!!
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Solun or Thessaloniki?
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ΜΑΚΕΔΟΝΣΚΟ ΔΕΒΟΥΤΣΙΕ
by Φιλιπ Μ (no login)Μακεδονσκο δεβουτσιε, κιτκα σιαρενα,
Βο γραδινα ναμπρανα, δαρ ποδαρενα.
Δαλι ιμα να οβου μπελι σβετ
Ποουμπαβο δεβουτσιε οδ Μακεδοντσιε.
Νεμα, νεμα, νε κιε σε ροδι,
Ποουμπαβο δεβουτσιε οδ Μακεδοντσιε.
Κογα πεσνα ζαπεε-σλαβευ ναδπεε,
Κογα ορο ζαιγρα-σρτσε ραζιγρα.
Δαλι ιμα να οβου μπελι σβετ
Ποουμπαβο δεβουτσιε οδ Μακεδοντσιε.
Νεμα, νεμα, νε κιε σε ροδι,
Ποουμπαβο δεβουτσιε οδ Μακεδοντσιε.
Κογα κοσι ρασπλετε, κακο κοπρινα,
Λιτσινα ε ι πολιτσινα οδ σαμοβιλα.
Δαλι ιμα να οβου μπελι σβετ
Ποουμπαβο δεβουτσιε οδ Μακεδοντσιε.
Νεμα, νεμα, νε κιε σε ροδι,
Ποουμπαβο δεβουτσιε οδ Μακεδοντσιε.
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IS THIS BULGAROSKI?
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he is trying hard to copy our ALVA VHTA. hahahahahaha.
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CAN YOU REWRITE THAT IN TO THE MACEDONIAN LANGUAGE!&NOT YOU SLAVOBULGARIAN DIALECT!
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If there is something that you don't like in Wikipedia, tell me and we can try to fix it..
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Petro thats what Im talking about..Where is the objectivity if you can change it at will??
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You cannot change it at will. There are moderators who are doing a fine job.
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I just hope that no band of Cretans decides to go to Britain for revenge...
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Hey Diamandi, is it true that you sent nuclear material to Iran, but the Bulgarians...
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You are fvcken animals. I read a few days ago that you have killed some 10,000 dogs because they were not fast enough for running in the races. YOU ARE FVCKEN ANIMALS. YOU COULD SELL YOUR OWN MOTHER TO AHMADINEJAD...
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this forum needs rabies shots
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GEIA SOU TEXAS...EGO EIMAI O KAKOS...
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Min ka8esai stin PORTA...MPES MESA...
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RattleSnake roundup...
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HE DOESN'T TALK TO US...WE ARE ULTRA BAD...
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Where the fu#ck does it say this is a tourist info site??
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Lets go get our rabies shot....
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IT IS NOT FOR US...WE DO NOT NEED IT...
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IS HE THE SAME PERSON?..."Waingro"?
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WHAT IS THE MEANING OF "Waingro"? Is there any meaning?
JUST CURIOUS.
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Waingro...RE KATSE NA PIOUME MIA MPIRA...8A'R8EI KAI O TSAKNIAS NA MAS AGIASEI...
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Bulgaria swims in money
by Daskal Kostadin (no login)Latest bulletin of the foreign liquiditiy department of BNB:
BGN 15,966 Bill. = EUR 8,163 Bill. = USD 10,3 Bill.
(0nly for comparison: public debt of Bulgaria is EUR 6,41 Bill.)
http://www.bnb.bg/bnb/balances.nsf/vDatesBSIW/9D04BB81EB33F23DC22571B500496DE4?OpenDocument&EN
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Al CAPONE too...
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BulgoDASKAL ITS CALLED MONEY LAUNDERING.. NOTHINGS CHANGED IN YOUR SH*ITHOLE COUNTRY
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Of course, there is some money laundering
by Daskal Kostadin (no login)Examples?
Austria, Ireland, Cyprus, Malta, Las Vegas...
all of them world famous laundires some decades ago
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Al CAPONE...
by PAGAN (Der Heide) (no login)ALL THE BEST.
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Nah Daskal your country WILL STILL BE A SH*ITHOLE....
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Some reality about Macedonia Contrary to unreality of this forum
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Oh wow...Were you with Pasko Kuzman on his SkopianSKI time machine??
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HAVE A COLD SHOWER...
by PAGAN (Der Heide) (no login)READ ANY HISTORY BOOK...
PRESENT WHAT YOU HAVE READ AND NOT WHAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO HEAR...
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And Megas Alexandros was AleksandAAAAArovski the Greatski and he spoke BulgoSlavic..
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