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KUNT running out of Bulgarian symbols?? Find them at www.gofuc*kyourself.com...DUMBASS

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TOO BAD FOR GREECE ABOUT THE TROJAN VASES

by mkont (no login)

face it, your claims to the international community and to WIPO is not based on all the facts. these symbols were used by the trojans even before the Macedonian nation was known to history.


we have EARLY tangible, archaeological vases and you have a bunch of myth


and the other vases or parchments showing the Macedonian youth dressed in the trojan style.

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VARDAR-BULGARSKI!YOUR BULGARIAN HISTORY........

by VARDAR-BULGARSKI!YOUR BULGARIAN HISTORY...... (no login)

VARDAR-BULGARSKI!YOUR BULGARIAN HISTORY........
YOU, Bulgarian, in the name of the patriotism, freedom and saving your life, pay to the bearer of this invitation the sum of ...
Invitation from the central revolutionary commitee to all Bulgars in Skopje....


VMRO(BMPO) stamp in Bulgarian language..........


VMRO was first established in 1893 under the name of Bulgarian Macedono-Odrin Revolutionary Committee(BMPO).


The Bulgarian society in Skopje 1870 :


Bulgarian municipality - Prilep


Theophylacti Bulgariae archiepiscopi In omnes divi Pauli apostoli epistolas enarrationes
THEOPHYLACTUS, arcivescovo di Ochrida
http://www.comune.empoli.fi.it/biblioteca/CATALOGO/schede/sch785.html
http://www.comune.empoli.fi.it/biblioteca/CATALOGO/schede/front785.html

Theophylacti archiepiscopi Bulgariae In quator Evangelia enarrationes
THEOPHYLACTUS, arcivescovo di Ochrida
http://www.comune.empoli.fi.it/biblioteca/CATALOGO/schede/sch652.html
http://www.comune.empoli.fi.it/biblioteca/CATALOGO/schede/front652.html

Some villages have Serbian schools and some have Bulgarian schools.
"..in the towns Serbian schools can be found alongside the Bulgarian boys' and girls' elementary and grammar schools. Some villages have Serbian schools and some have Bulgarian schools. Some villagers, along with their teachers and priests, recognize the Patriarchate and come under the protection of the Serbian or Greek consul, while others recognize the Bulgarian Exarchate and place themselves under the authority of the Bulgarian trade representatives."-Misirkov Krste

MISIRKOV:"We are Bulgarian more than the Bulgarians in Bulgaria. The population of Skopje is pure Bulgarian.
"Our fathers, grandfathers, and great grandfathers have always been called Bulgarians"-Krste Misirkov

but what can we possibly do when we ourselves are Bulgarians .......
Text of Delcev's letter to Nikola Maleshevski:WE ARE BULGARIANS!
"Sofia, 01.05.1899, Kolyo, ... May the dissents and cleavages not frighten you. It is really a pity, but what can we possibly do when we ourselves are Bulgarians and all suffer from the same disease! If this disease had not existed in our forefathers who passed it on to us, we wouldn't have fallen under the ugly sceptre of the Turkish sultans..."


"We are Bulgarians and we always work and will work for the unification of the Bulgariandom."
-Dame Gruev (Director of the Bulgarian school in Stip).

" Respected representatives of the Bulgarian people, ....
Here is a excerpt from a letter written in 1861 by the people of Ohrid in protest to the arbitrariness of the Greek metropolite Meletius in which they insist on the restoration of the Ohrid Archbishopric closed back in 1767.
" Respected representatives of the Bulgarian people,
The undersigned inhabitants of Justiniana Prima or Ohrid, after seeing, on one hand, that regardless of all our hopes our common mother, the Great Church of Christ, did not pay attention to the petitions submitted to Her one after another in which we kindly beg Her to change Metropolite Meletius appointed against our will and requests, and ,on the other hand, informed that all our Bulgarian people is indignant with the same at the Great Church of Chris, considered it our inevitable duty to appoint you and recognize you, in accordance with our people, as our plenipotentiary representatives so you can petition, in the kindest fashion, the Sublime Porte to hear our our requests and deliver us from the arbitrariness of the Greek clergy by affirming the restoration of an autocephalous archbishopric of Ohridian Prima Justiniana and all Bulgaria....
April 9th, 1861
Prima Justiniana or Ohrid

There are no 'Macedonians'. There are Bulgars!
"Let me begin by correcting an almost universal fallacy. There are no 'Macedonians'. There are Bulgars. There are Roumans - the relics of the Latin-speaking provincials of Rome's Illyrian provinces, who still hold their own in the Pindus range and in the neighboring towns. There are Greeks, including more or less superficially Hellenized Roumans. There are 'Turks,' including Mohammedan Bulgarians, and some true Turkish villages in the Vardar valley representing a settlement earlier than the Ottoman conquest. There is an infusion of Skipetars or Albanians on the western and northern fringe. Finally, there is the large Spanish Jew population in Salonika. But there are no 'Macedonians'."
Sir Arthur J. Evans. English archaeologist.London Times, on September 30, 1903

STALIN:That a Macedonian consciousness has not yet developed among the population is of no account.
Otecestven Vestnik (Sofia daily), 19 June 1991
STALIN TO BULGARIAN DELEGATION
(G. Dimitrov, V. Kolarov, T. Kostov)
The Kremlin, 7 June 1946
Cultural autonomy must be granted to Pirin Macedonia within the framework of Bulgaria. Tito has shown himself more flexible than you - possibly because he lives in a multiethnic state and has had to give equal rights to the various peoples. Autonomy will be the first step towards the unification of Macedonia, but in view of the present situation there should be no hurry on this matter. Otherwise, in the eyes of the Macedonian people the whole mission of achieving Macedonian autonomy will remain with Tito and you will get the criticism. You seem to be afraid of Kimon Georgiev, you have involved yourselves too much with him and do not want to give autonomy to Pirin Macedonia. That a Macedonian consciousness has not yet developed among the population is of no account. No such consciousness existed in Byelorussia either when we proclaimed it a Soviet Republic. However, later it was shown that a Byelorussian people did in fact exist. ...

creation of a "Socialist Republic of Macedonia" with Skopje as capital is only a sad farce.
Dear Sir,
The magazine HISTORIA has just provided me with the very beautiful book that you so kindly sent me. I have first of all admired the presentation and then was struck by its contents.
Your thesis is brilliant. The Macedonians are and have always been Greeks, and the creation of a "Socialist Republic of Macedonia" with Skopje as capital is only a sad farce. I will not miss, when the opportunity arises, to pass this on.
In thanking you for having so kindly sent me your book, which has interested me even more, having myself written many works on Byzantium, I beg you to believe, dear Sir, by best feelings.
RENE GUERDAN

The referred Slavs were only "Serbian" and "Bulgarian"
The deliberately misleading use of the terms "Macedonians" and "Slavs" is exposed by two irrefutable Turkish documents. One is a population census of 1905, published by an Italian firm and the other is an election announcement of 1912 from Monastir (now Bitolj), which describes the candidates as Turks, Greeks, and Bulgarians. There was no such thing as "Macedonian" nationality during the Turkish period either. The referred Slavs were only "Serbian" and "Bulgarian"
(see Document No 10).
http://www.hri.org/Martis/contents/doc10.html

Ohrid:"Shepherd of the Bulgarians, remember the ruler Andronicos Palleologus, when sacrificing".
Shroud, XIII c.
Ochrid
Presented by the Emperor Andronicos II Palleologus (1282-1328) to the Ochrid Archbishop, inscribed with gold fibers: "Shepherd of the Bulgarians, remember the ruler Andronicos Palleologus, when sacrificing".

(National Museum of History, Sofia)




USKUB 1915: SKOPIANS!See to her your grandfathers....






A prosperous Bulgarian village among the hills.(BRUSNIK,NEAR MONASTIR)


MACEDONIA IS HELLENISM-NOT BULGARISM


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ATG's Phrygian-influenced Macedonian infantry - the true Macedonians

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now we have a connection to the phrygians from the earliest times and well into the Macedonian dynastic era.

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SKOPIANS ARE BULGARS OF YUGOSLAVIA!NOT MACEDONIANS

by VARDAR-BULGARSKI!YOUR BULGARIAN HISTORY...... (no login)

VARDAR-BULGARSKI!YOUR BULGARIAN HISTORY........
YOU, Bulgarian, in the name of the patriotism, freedom and saving your life, pay to the bearer of this invitation the sum of ...
Invitation from the central revolutionary commitee to all Bulgars in Skopje....


VMRO(BMPO) stamp in Bulgarian language..........


VMRO was first established in 1893 under the name of Bulgarian Macedono-Odrin Revolutionary Committee(BMPO).


The Bulgarian society in Skopje 1870 :


Bulgarian municipality - Prilep


Theophylacti Bulgariae archiepiscopi In omnes divi Pauli apostoli epistolas enarrationes
THEOPHYLACTUS, arcivescovo di Ochrida
http://www.comune.empoli.fi.it/biblioteca/CATALOGO/schede/sch785.html
http://www.comune.empoli.fi.it/biblioteca/CATALOGO/schede/front785.html

Theophylacti archiepiscopi Bulgariae In quator Evangelia enarrationes
THEOPHYLACTUS, arcivescovo di Ochrida
http://www.comune.empoli.fi.it/biblioteca/CATALOGO/schede/sch652.html
http://www.comune.empoli.fi.it/biblioteca/CATALOGO/schede/front652.html

Some villages have Serbian schools and some have Bulgarian schools.
"..in the towns Serbian schools can be found alongside the Bulgarian boys' and girls' elementary and grammar schools. Some villages have Serbian schools and some have Bulgarian schools. Some villagers, along with their teachers and priests, recognize the Patriarchate and come under the protection of the Serbian or Greek consul, while others recognize the Bulgarian Exarchate and place themselves under the authority of the Bulgarian trade representatives."-Misirkov Krste

MISIRKOV:"We are Bulgarian more than the Bulgarians in Bulgaria. The population of Skopje is pure Bulgarian.
"Our fathers, grandfathers, and great grandfathers have always been called Bulgarians"-Krste Misirkov

but what can we possibly do when we ourselves are Bulgarians .......
Text of Delcev's letter to Nikola Maleshevski:WE ARE BULGARIANS!
"Sofia, 01.05.1899, Kolyo, ... May the dissents and cleavages not frighten you. It is really a pity, but what can we possibly do when we ourselves are Bulgarians and all suffer from the same disease! If this disease had not existed in our forefathers who passed it on to us, we wouldn't have fallen under the ugly sceptre of the Turkish sultans..."


"We are Bulgarians and we always work and will work for the unification of the Bulgariandom."
-Dame Gruev (Director of the Bulgarian school in Stip).

" Respected representatives of the Bulgarian people, ....
Here is a excerpt from a letter written in 1861 by the people of Ohrid in protest to the arbitrariness of the Greek metropolite Meletius in which they insist on the restoration of the Ohrid Archbishopric closed back in 1767.
" Respected representatives of the Bulgarian people,
The undersigned inhabitants of Justiniana Prima or Ohrid, after seeing, on one hand, that regardless of all our hopes our common mother, the Great Church of Christ, did not pay attention to the petitions submitted to Her one after another in which we kindly beg Her to change Metropolite Meletius appointed against our will and requests, and ,on the other hand, informed that all our Bulgarian people is indignant with the same at the Great Church of Chris, considered it our inevitable duty to appoint you and recognize you, in accordance with our people, as our plenipotentiary representatives so you can petition, in the kindest fashion, the Sublime Porte to hear our our requests and deliver us from the arbitrariness of the Greek clergy by affirming the restoration of an autocephalous archbishopric of Ohridian Prima Justiniana and all Bulgaria....
April 9th, 1861
Prima Justiniana or Ohrid

There are no 'Macedonians'. There are Bulgars!
"Let me begin by correcting an almost universal fallacy. There are no 'Macedonians'. There are Bulgars. There are Roumans - the relics of the Latin-speaking provincials of Rome's Illyrian provinces, who still hold their own in the Pindus range and in the neighboring towns. There are Greeks, including more or less superficially Hellenized Roumans. There are 'Turks,' including Mohammedan Bulgarians, and some true Turkish villages in the Vardar valley representing a settlement earlier than the Ottoman conquest. There is an infusion of Skipetars or Albanians on the western and northern fringe. Finally, there is the large Spanish Jew population in Salonika. But there are no 'Macedonians'."
Sir Arthur J. Evans. English archaeologist.London Times, on September 30, 1903

STALIN:That a Macedonian consciousness has not yet developed among the population is of no account.
Otecestven Vestnik (Sofia daily), 19 June 1991
STALIN TO BULGARIAN DELEGATION
(G. Dimitrov, V. Kolarov, T. Kostov)
The Kremlin, 7 June 1946
Cultural autonomy must be granted to Pirin Macedonia within the framework of Bulgaria. Tito has shown himself more flexible than you - possibly because he lives in a multiethnic state and has had to give equal rights to the various peoples. Autonomy will be the first step towards the unification of Macedonia, but in view of the present situation there should be no hurry on this matter. Otherwise, in the eyes of the Macedonian people the whole mission of achieving Macedonian autonomy will remain with Tito and you will get the criticism. You seem to be afraid of Kimon Georgiev, you have involved yourselves too much with him and do not want to give autonomy to Pirin Macedonia. That a Macedonian consciousness has not yet developed among the population is of no account. No such consciousness existed in Byelorussia either when we proclaimed it a Soviet Republic. However, later it was shown that a Byelorussian people did in fact exist. ...

creation of a "Socialist Republic of Macedonia" with Skopje as capital is only a sad farce.
Dear Sir,
The magazine HISTORIA has just provided me with the very beautiful book that you so kindly sent me. I have first of all admired the presentation and then was struck by its contents.
Your thesis is brilliant. The Macedonians are and have always been Greeks, and the creation of a "Socialist Republic of Macedonia" with Skopje as capital is only a sad farce. I will not miss, when the opportunity arises, to pass this on.
In thanking you for having so kindly sent me your book, which has interested me even more, having myself written many works on Byzantium, I beg you to believe, dear Sir, by best feelings.
RENE GUERDAN

The referred Slavs were only "Serbian" and "Bulgarian"
The deliberately misleading use of the terms "Macedonians" and "Slavs" is exposed by two irrefutable Turkish documents. One is a population census of 1905, published by an Italian firm and the other is an election announcement of 1912 from Monastir (now Bitolj), which describes the candidates as Turks, Greeks, and Bulgarians. There was no such thing as "Macedonian" nationality during the Turkish period either. The referred Slavs were only "Serbian" and "Bulgarian"
(see Document No 10).
http://www.hri.org/Martis/contents/doc10.html

Ohrid:"Shepherd of the Bulgarians, remember the ruler Andronicos Palleologus, when sacrificing".
Shroud, XIII c.
Ochrid
Presented by the Emperor Andronicos II Palleologus (1282-1328) to the Ochrid Archbishop, inscribed with gold fibers: "Shepherd of the Bulgarians, remember the ruler Andronicos Palleologus, when sacrificing".

(National Museum of History, Sofia)




USKUB 1915: SKOPIANS!See to her your grandfathers....






A prosperous Bulgarian village among the hills.(BRUSNIK,NEAR MONASTIR)


MACEDONIA IS HELLENISM-NOT BULGARISM


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Im now going to take a huge Bulgoslav, after i wipe my skopia, flush it down the fyromski.

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KUNT in a few years you will be Mace-GONE-SKI.. a bad Bulgoslav nightmare...

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WHY DON'T YOU COPYRIGHT THE SWASTIKA THEN?

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you know why? because you can't get any propaganda points with it, that's why!

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VARDAR-BULGARSKI!YOUR BULGARIAN HISTORY........

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VARDAR-BULGARSKI!YOUR BULGARIAN HISTORY........
YOU, Bulgarian, in the name of the patriotism, freedom and saving your life, pay to the bearer of this invitation the sum of ...
Invitation from the central revolutionary commitee to all Bulgars in Skopje....


VMRO(BMPO) stamp in Bulgarian language..........


VMRO was first established in 1893 under the name of Bulgarian Macedono-Odrin Revolutionary Committee(BMPO).


The Bulgarian society in Skopje 1870 :


Bulgarian municipality - Prilep


Theophylacti Bulgariae archiepiscopi In omnes divi Pauli apostoli epistolas enarrationes
THEOPHYLACTUS, arcivescovo di Ochrida
http://www.comune.empoli.fi.it/biblioteca/CATALOGO/schede/sch785.html
http://www.comune.empoli.fi.it/biblioteca/CATALOGO/schede/front785.html

Theophylacti archiepiscopi Bulgariae In quator Evangelia enarrationes
THEOPHYLACTUS, arcivescovo di Ochrida
http://www.comune.empoli.fi.it/biblioteca/CATALOGO/schede/sch652.html
http://www.comune.empoli.fi.it/biblioteca/CATALOGO/schede/front652.html

Some villages have Serbian schools and some have Bulgarian schools.
"..in the towns Serbian schools can be found alongside the Bulgarian boys' and girls' elementary and grammar schools. Some villages have Serbian schools and some have Bulgarian schools. Some villagers, along with their teachers and priests, recognize the Patriarchate and come under the protection of the Serbian or Greek consul, while others recognize the Bulgarian Exarchate and place themselves under the authority of the Bulgarian trade representatives."-Misirkov Krste

MISIRKOV:"We are Bulgarian more than the Bulgarians in Bulgaria. The population of Skopje is pure Bulgarian.
"Our fathers, grandfathers, and great grandfathers have always been called Bulgarians"-Krste Misirkov

but what can we possibly do when we ourselves are Bulgarians .......
Text of Delcev's letter to Nikola Maleshevski:WE ARE BULGARIANS!
"Sofia, 01.05.1899, Kolyo, ... May the dissents and cleavages not frighten you. It is really a pity, but what can we possibly do when we ourselves are Bulgarians and all suffer from the same disease! If this disease had not existed in our forefathers who passed it on to us, we wouldn't have fallen under the ugly sceptre of the Turkish sultans..."


"We are Bulgarians and we always work and will work for the unification of the Bulgariandom."
-Dame Gruev (Director of the Bulgarian school in Stip).

" Respected representatives of the Bulgarian people, ....
Here is a excerpt from a letter written in 1861 by the people of Ohrid in protest to the arbitrariness of the Greek metropolite Meletius in which they insist on the restoration of the Ohrid Archbishopric closed back in 1767.
" Respected representatives of the Bulgarian people,
The undersigned inhabitants of Justiniana Prima or Ohrid, after seeing, on one hand, that regardless of all our hopes our common mother, the Great Church of Christ, did not pay attention to the petitions submitted to Her one after another in which we kindly beg Her to change Metropolite Meletius appointed against our will and requests, and ,on the other hand, informed that all our Bulgarian people is indignant with the same at the Great Church of Chris, considered it our inevitable duty to appoint you and recognize you, in accordance with our people, as our plenipotentiary representatives so you can petition, in the kindest fashion, the Sublime Porte to hear our our requests and deliver us from the arbitrariness of the Greek clergy by affirming the restoration of an autocephalous archbishopric of Ohridian Prima Justiniana and all Bulgaria....
April 9th, 1861
Prima Justiniana or Ohrid

There are no 'Macedonians'. There are Bulgars!
"Let me begin by correcting an almost universal fallacy. There are no 'Macedonians'. There are Bulgars. There are Roumans - the relics of the Latin-speaking provincials of Rome's Illyrian provinces, who still hold their own in the Pindus range and in the neighboring towns. There are Greeks, including more or less superficially Hellenized Roumans. There are 'Turks,' including Mohammedan Bulgarians, and some true Turkish villages in the Vardar valley representing a settlement earlier than the Ottoman conquest. There is an infusion of Skipetars or Albanians on the western and northern fringe. Finally, there is the large Spanish Jew population in Salonika. But there are no 'Macedonians'."
Sir Arthur J. Evans. English archaeologist.London Times, on September 30, 1903

STALIN:That a Macedonian consciousness has not yet developed among the population is of no account.
Otecestven Vestnik (Sofia daily), 19 June 1991
STALIN TO BULGARIAN DELEGATION
(G. Dimitrov, V. Kolarov, T. Kostov)
The Kremlin, 7 June 1946
Cultural autonomy must be granted to Pirin Macedonia within the framework of Bulgaria. Tito has shown himself more flexible than you - possibly because he lives in a multiethnic state and has had to give equal rights to the various peoples. Autonomy will be the first step towards the unification of Macedonia, but in view of the present situation there should be no hurry on this matter. Otherwise, in the eyes of the Macedonian people the whole mission of achieving Macedonian autonomy will remain with Tito and you will get the criticism. You seem to be afraid of Kimon Georgiev, you have involved yourselves too much with him and do not want to give autonomy to Pirin Macedonia. That a Macedonian consciousness has not yet developed among the population is of no account. No such consciousness existed in Byelorussia either when we proclaimed it a Soviet Republic. However, later it was shown that a Byelorussian people did in fact exist. ...

creation of a "Socialist Republic of Macedonia" with Skopje as capital is only a sad farce.
Dear Sir,
The magazine HISTORIA has just provided me with the very beautiful book that you so kindly sent me. I have first of all admired the presentation and then was struck by its contents.
Your thesis is brilliant. The Macedonians are and have always been Greeks, and the creation of a "Socialist Republic of Macedonia" with Skopje as capital is only a sad farce. I will not miss, when the opportunity arises, to pass this on.
In thanking you for having so kindly sent me your book, which has interested me even more, having myself written many works on Byzantium, I beg you to believe, dear Sir, by best feelings.
RENE GUERDAN

The referred Slavs were only "Serbian" and "Bulgarian"
The deliberately misleading use of the terms "Macedonians" and "Slavs" is exposed by two irrefutable Turkish documents. One is a population census of 1905, published by an Italian firm and the other is an election announcement of 1912 from Monastir (now Bitolj), which describes the candidates as Turks, Greeks, and Bulgarians. There was no such thing as "Macedonian" nationality during the Turkish period either. The referred Slavs were only "Serbian" and "Bulgarian"
(see Document No 10).
http://www.hri.org/Martis/contents/doc10.html

Ohrid:"Shepherd of the Bulgarians, remember the ruler Andronicos Palleologus, when sacrificing".
Shroud, XIII c.
Ochrid
Presented by the Emperor Andronicos II Palleologus (1282-1328) to the Ochrid Archbishop, inscribed with gold fibers: "Shepherd of the Bulgarians, remember the ruler Andronicos Palleologus, when sacrificing".

(National Museum of History, Sofia)




USKUB 1915: SKOPIANS!See to her your grandfathers....






A prosperous Bulgarian village among the hills.(BRUSNIK,NEAR MONASTIR)


MACEDONIA IS HELLENISM-NOT BULGARISM


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You are SPECIALISTS in PROPAGANDA...WE USE PROOFS...

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ARCHAEOLOGY AND HISTORY ARE OUR GUIDELINES...WHAT ARE YOURS?



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How aboutthis Bulgarski Coat of arms KUUUUUUUUNT...

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The Macedonian one predates it....

by mkont (no login)

bulgars later adopted the Macedonian lion



just like the trojans using the Macedonian star device and phrygian helmets predates any so-called claim by greece by hundreds of years.

the earliest recordings of Macedonians show the have strong ties to the trojabns and to their Macedonian compatriots - the Brygi

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VARDAR-BULGARSKI!YOUR BULGARIAN HISTORY........

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VARDAR-BULGARSKI!YOUR BULGARIAN HISTORY........
YOU, Bulgarian, in the name of the patriotism, freedom and saving your life, pay to the bearer of this invitation the sum of ...
Invitation from the central revolutionary commitee to all Bulgars in Skopje....


VMRO(BMPO) stamp in Bulgarian language..........


VMRO was first established in 1893 under the name of Bulgarian Macedono-Odrin Revolutionary Committee(BMPO).


The Bulgarian society in Skopje 1870 :


Bulgarian municipality - Prilep


Theophylacti Bulgariae archiepiscopi In omnes divi Pauli apostoli epistolas enarrationes
THEOPHYLACTUS, arcivescovo di Ochrida
http://www.comune.empoli.fi.it/biblioteca/CATALOGO/schede/sch785.html
http://www.comune.empoli.fi.it/biblioteca/CATALOGO/schede/front785.html

Theophylacti archiepiscopi Bulgariae In quator Evangelia enarrationes
THEOPHYLACTUS, arcivescovo di Ochrida
http://www.comune.empoli.fi.it/biblioteca/CATALOGO/schede/sch652.html
http://www.comune.empoli.fi.it/biblioteca/CATALOGO/schede/front652.html

Some villages have Serbian schools and some have Bulgarian schools.
"..in the towns Serbian schools can be found alongside the Bulgarian boys' and girls' elementary and grammar schools. Some villages have Serbian schools and some have Bulgarian schools. Some villagers, along with their teachers and priests, recognize the Patriarchate and come under the protection of the Serbian or Greek consul, while others recognize the Bulgarian Exarchate and place themselves under the authority of the Bulgarian trade representatives."-Misirkov Krste

MISIRKOV:"We are Bulgarian more than the Bulgarians in Bulgaria. The population of Skopje is pure Bulgarian.
"Our fathers, grandfathers, and great grandfathers have always been called Bulgarians"-Krste Misirkov

but what can we possibly do when we ourselves are Bulgarians .......
Text of Delcev's letter to Nikola Maleshevski:WE ARE BULGARIANS!
"Sofia, 01.05.1899, Kolyo, ... May the dissents and cleavages not frighten you. It is really a pity, but what can we possibly do when we ourselves are Bulgarians and all suffer from the same disease! If this disease had not existed in our forefathers who passed it on to us, we wouldn't have fallen under the ugly sceptre of the Turkish sultans..."


"We are Bulgarians and we always work and will work for the unification of the Bulgariandom."
-Dame Gruev (Director of the Bulgarian school in Stip).

" Respected representatives of the Bulgarian people, ....
Here is a excerpt from a letter written in 1861 by the people of Ohrid in protest to the arbitrariness of the Greek metropolite Meletius in which they insist on the restoration of the Ohrid Archbishopric closed back in 1767.
" Respected representatives of the Bulgarian people,
The undersigned inhabitants of Justiniana Prima or Ohrid, after seeing, on one hand, that regardless of all our hopes our common mother, the Great Church of Christ, did not pay attention to the petitions submitted to Her one after another in which we kindly beg Her to change Metropolite Meletius appointed against our will and requests, and ,on the other hand, informed that all our Bulgarian people is indignant with the same at the Great Church of Chris, considered it our inevitable duty to appoint you and recognize you, in accordance with our people, as our plenipotentiary representatives so you can petition, in the kindest fashion, the Sublime Porte to hear our our requests and deliver us from the arbitrariness of the Greek clergy by affirming the restoration of an autocephalous archbishopric of Ohridian Prima Justiniana and all Bulgaria....
April 9th, 1861
Prima Justiniana or Ohrid

There are no 'Macedonians'. There are Bulgars!
"Let me begin by correcting an almost universal fallacy. There are no 'Macedonians'. There are Bulgars. There are Roumans - the relics of the Latin-speaking provincials of Rome's Illyrian provinces, who still hold their own in the Pindus range and in the neighboring towns. There are Greeks, including more or less superficially Hellenized Roumans. There are 'Turks,' including Mohammedan Bulgarians, and some true Turkish villages in the Vardar valley representing a settlement earlier than the Ottoman conquest. There is an infusion of Skipetars or Albanians on the western and northern fringe. Finally, there is the large Spanish Jew population in Salonika. But there are no 'Macedonians'."
Sir Arthur J. Evans. English archaeologist.London Times, on September 30, 1903

STALIN:That a Macedonian consciousness has not yet developed among the population is of no account.
Otecestven Vestnik (Sofia daily), 19 June 1991
STALIN TO BULGARIAN DELEGATION
(G. Dimitrov, V. Kolarov, T. Kostov)
The Kremlin, 7 June 1946
Cultural autonomy must be granted to Pirin Macedonia within the framework of Bulgaria. Tito has shown himself more flexible than you - possibly because he lives in a multiethnic state and has had to give equal rights to the various peoples. Autonomy will be the first step towards the unification of Macedonia, but in view of the present situation there should be no hurry on this matter. Otherwise, in the eyes of the Macedonian people the whole mission of achieving Macedonian autonomy will remain with Tito and you will get the criticism. You seem to be afraid of Kimon Georgiev, you have involved yourselves too much with him and do not want to give autonomy to Pirin Macedonia. That a Macedonian consciousness has not yet developed among the population is of no account. No such consciousness existed in Byelorussia either when we proclaimed it a Soviet Republic. However, later it was shown that a Byelorussian people did in fact exist. ...

creation of a "Socialist Republic of Macedonia" with Skopje as capital is only a sad farce.
Dear Sir,
The magazine HISTORIA has just provided me with the very beautiful book that you so kindly sent me. I have first of all admired the presentation and then was struck by its contents.
Your thesis is brilliant. The Macedonians are and have always been Greeks, and the creation of a "Socialist Republic of Macedonia" with Skopje as capital is only a sad farce. I will not miss, when the opportunity arises, to pass this on.
In thanking you for having so kindly sent me your book, which has interested me even more, having myself written many works on Byzantium, I beg you to believe, dear Sir, by best feelings.
RENE GUERDAN

The referred Slavs were only "Serbian" and "Bulgarian"
The deliberately misleading use of the terms "Macedonians" and "Slavs" is exposed by two irrefutable Turkish documents. One is a population census of 1905, published by an Italian firm and the other is an election announcement of 1912 from Monastir (now Bitolj), which describes the candidates as Turks, Greeks, and Bulgarians. There was no such thing as "Macedonian" nationality during the Turkish period either. The referred Slavs were only "Serbian" and "Bulgarian"
(see Document No 10).
http://www.hri.org/Martis/contents/doc10.html

Ohrid:"Shepherd of the Bulgarians, remember the ruler Andronicos Palleologus, when sacrificing".
Shroud, XIII c.
Ochrid
Presented by the Emperor Andronicos II Palleologus (1282-1328) to the Ochrid Archbishop, inscribed with gold fibers: "Shepherd of the Bulgarians, remember the ruler Andronicos Palleologus, when sacrificing".

(National Museum of History, Sofia)




USKUB 1915: SKOPIANS!See to her your grandfathers....






A prosperous Bulgarian village among the hills.(BRUSNIK,NEAR MONASTIR)


MACEDONIA IS HELLENISM-NOT BULGARISM


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You mean this BULGARSKI COAT OF ARMS ...MALAKA KUNT

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1595: Macedonia Coat of Arms

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Lion: The lion first appears in 1595 in the Korenich-Neorich coat of arms, where the coat of arms of Macedonia is included among with those of eleven other countries. On the coat of arms is a crown, inside a yellow crowned lion is depicted standing rampant, on a red background. On the bottom enclosed in a red and yellow border is written "Macedonia". Later versions of these coat of arms include a more detailed crown and lion with the word "Macedonia" written in a scroll like style


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Nice BULGARIAN symbol...

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VARDAR-BULGARSKI!YOUR BULGARIAN HISTORY........

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VARDAR-BULGARSKI!YOUR BULGARIAN HISTORY........
YOU, Bulgarian, in the name of the patriotism, freedom and saving your life, pay to the bearer of this invitation the sum of ...
Invitation from the central revolutionary commitee to all Bulgars in Skopje....


VMRO(BMPO) stamp in Bulgarian language..........


VMRO was first established in 1893 under the name of Bulgarian Macedono-Odrin Revolutionary Committee(BMPO).


The Bulgarian society in Skopje 1870 :


Bulgarian municipality - Prilep


Theophylacti Bulgariae archiepiscopi In omnes divi Pauli apostoli epistolas enarrationes
THEOPHYLACTUS, arcivescovo di Ochrida
http://www.comune.empoli.fi.it/biblioteca/CATALOGO/schede/sch785.html
http://www.comune.empoli.fi.it/biblioteca/CATALOGO/schede/front785.html

Theophylacti archiepiscopi Bulgariae In quator Evangelia enarrationes
THEOPHYLACTUS, arcivescovo di Ochrida
http://www.comune.empoli.fi.it/biblioteca/CATALOGO/schede/sch652.html
http://www.comune.empoli.fi.it/biblioteca/CATALOGO/schede/front652.html

Some villages have Serbian schools and some have Bulgarian schools.
"..in the towns Serbian schools can be found alongside the Bulgarian boys' and girls' elementary and grammar schools. Some villages have Serbian schools and some have Bulgarian schools. Some villagers, along with their teachers and priests, recognize the Patriarchate and come under the protection of the Serbian or Greek consul, while others recognize the Bulgarian Exarchate and place themselves under the authority of the Bulgarian trade representatives."-Misirkov Krste

MISIRKOV:"We are Bulgarian more than the Bulgarians in Bulgaria. The population of Skopje is pure Bulgarian.
"Our fathers, grandfathers, and great grandfathers have always been called Bulgarians"-Krste Misirkov

but what can we possibly do when we ourselves are Bulgarians .......
Text of Delcev's letter to Nikola Maleshevski:WE ARE BULGARIANS!
"Sofia, 01.05.1899, Kolyo, ... May the dissents and cleavages not frighten you. It is really a pity, but what can we possibly do when we ourselves are Bulgarians and all suffer from the same disease! If this disease had not existed in our forefathers who passed it on to us, we wouldn't have fallen under the ugly sceptre of the Turkish sultans..."


"We are Bulgarians and we always work and will work for the unification of the Bulgariandom."
-Dame Gruev (Director of the Bulgarian school in Stip).

" Respected representatives of the Bulgarian people, ....
Here is a excerpt from a letter written in 1861 by the people of Ohrid in protest to the arbitrariness of the Greek metropolite Meletius in which they insist on the restoration of the Ohrid Archbishopric closed back in 1767.
" Respected representatives of the Bulgarian people,
The undersigned inhabitants of Justiniana Prima or Ohrid, after seeing, on one hand, that regardless of all our hopes our common mother, the Great Church of Christ, did not pay attention to the petitions submitted to Her one after another in which we kindly beg Her to change Metropolite Meletius appointed against our will and requests, and ,on the other hand, informed that all our Bulgarian people is indignant with the same at the Great Church of Chris, considered it our inevitable duty to appoint you and recognize you, in accordance with our people, as our plenipotentiary representatives so you can petition, in the kindest fashion, the Sublime Porte to hear our our requests and deliver us from the arbitrariness of the Greek clergy by affirming the restoration of an autocephalous archbishopric of Ohridian Prima Justiniana and all Bulgaria....
April 9th, 1861
Prima Justiniana or Ohrid

There are no 'Macedonians'. There are Bulgars!
"Let me begin by correcting an almost universal fallacy. There are no 'Macedonians'. There are Bulgars. There are Roumans - the relics of the Latin-speaking provincials of Rome's Illyrian provinces, who still hold their own in the Pindus range and in the neighboring towns. There are Greeks, including more or less superficially Hellenized Roumans. There are 'Turks,' including Mohammedan Bulgarians, and some true Turkish villages in the Vardar valley representing a settlement earlier than the Ottoman conquest. There is an infusion of Skipetars or Albanians on the western and northern fringe. Finally, there is the large Spanish Jew population in Salonika. But there are no 'Macedonians'."
Sir Arthur J. Evans. English archaeologist.London Times, on September 30, 1903

STALIN:That a Macedonian consciousness has not yet developed among the population is of no account.
Otecestven Vestnik (Sofia daily), 19 June 1991
STALIN TO BULGARIAN DELEGATION
(G. Dimitrov, V. Kolarov, T. Kostov)
The Kremlin, 7 June 1946
Cultural autonomy must be granted to Pirin Macedonia within the framework of Bulgaria. Tito has shown himself more flexible than you - possibly because he lives in a multiethnic state and has had to give equal rights to the various peoples. Autonomy will be the first step towards the unification of Macedonia, but in view of the present situation there should be no hurry on this matter. Otherwise, in the eyes of the Macedonian people the whole mission of achieving Macedonian autonomy will remain with Tito and you will get the criticism. You seem to be afraid of Kimon Georgiev, you have involved yourselves too much with him and do not want to give autonomy to Pirin Macedonia. That a Macedonian consciousness has not yet developed among the population is of no account. No such consciousness existed in Byelorussia either when we proclaimed it a Soviet Republic. However, later it was shown that a Byelorussian people did in fact exist. ...

creation of a "Socialist Republic of Macedonia" with Skopje as capital is only a sad farce.
Dear Sir,
The magazine HISTORIA has just provided me with the very beautiful book that you so kindly sent me. I have first of all admired the presentation and then was struck by its contents.
Your thesis is brilliant. The Macedonians are and have always been Greeks, and the creation of a "Socialist Republic of Macedonia" with Skopje as capital is only a sad farce. I will not miss, when the opportunity arises, to pass this on.
In thanking you for having so kindly sent me your book, which has interested me even more, having myself written many works on Byzantium, I beg you to believe, dear Sir, by best feelings.
RENE GUERDAN

The referred Slavs were only "Serbian" and "Bulgarian"
The deliberately misleading use of the terms "Macedonians" and "Slavs" is exposed by two irrefutable Turkish documents. One is a population census of 1905, published by an Italian firm and the other is an election announcement of 1912 from Monastir (now Bitolj), which describes the candidates as Turks, Greeks, and Bulgarians. There was no such thing as "Macedonian" nationality during the Turkish period either. The referred Slavs were only "Serbian" and "Bulgarian"
(see Document No 10).
http://www.hri.org/Martis/contents/doc10.html

Ohrid:"Shepherd of the Bulgarians, remember the ruler Andronicos Palleologus, when sacrificing".
Shroud, XIII c.
Ochrid
Presented by the Emperor Andronicos II Palleologus (1282-1328) to the Ochrid Archbishop, inscribed with gold fibers: "Shepherd of the Bulgarians, remember the ruler Andronicos Palleologus, when sacrificing".

(National Museum of History, Sofia)




USKUB 1915: SKOPIANS!See to her your grandfathers....






A prosperous Bulgarian village among the hills.(BRUSNIK,NEAR MONASTIR)


MACEDONIA IS HELLENISM-NOT BULGARISM


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WHY DID THE MACEDONIANS USE BOTH TROJAN AND PHRYGIAN SYMBOLS???????

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the vase i quoted is not the only one. there are other archaeological proofs from around 500-400 bc that shows Macedonian students wearing trojan-style clothes (or something like that). the earliest connections of the Macedonians were with the trojans and phrygians

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VARDAR-BULGARSKI!YOUR BULGARIAN HISTORY........

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VARDAR-BULGARSKI!YOUR BULGARIAN HISTORY........
YOU, Bulgarian, in the name of the patriotism, freedom and saving your life, pay to the bearer of this invitation the sum of ...
Invitation from the central revolutionary commitee to all Bulgars in Skopje....


VMRO(BMPO) stamp in Bulgarian language..........


VMRO was first established in 1893 under the name of Bulgarian Macedono-Odrin Revolutionary Committee(BMPO).


The Bulgarian society in Skopje 1870 :


Bulgarian municipality - Prilep


Theophylacti Bulgariae archiepiscopi In omnes divi Pauli apostoli epistolas enarrationes
THEOPHYLACTUS, arcivescovo di Ochrida
http://www.comune.empoli.fi.it/biblioteca/CATALOGO/schede/sch785.html
http://www.comune.empoli.fi.it/biblioteca/CATALOGO/schede/front785.html

Theophylacti archiepiscopi Bulgariae In quator Evangelia enarrationes
THEOPHYLACTUS, arcivescovo di Ochrida
http://www.comune.empoli.fi.it/biblioteca/CATALOGO/schede/sch652.html
http://www.comune.empoli.fi.it/biblioteca/CATALOGO/schede/front652.html

Some villages have Serbian schools and some have Bulgarian schools.
"..in the towns Serbian schools can be found alongside the Bulgarian boys' and girls' elementary and grammar schools. Some villages have Serbian schools and some have Bulgarian schools. Some villagers, along with their teachers and priests, recognize the Patriarchate and come under the protection of the Serbian or Greek consul, while others recognize the Bulgarian Exarchate and place themselves under the authority of the Bulgarian trade representatives."-Misirkov Krste

MISIRKOV:"We are Bulgarian more than the Bulgarians in Bulgaria. The population of Skopje is pure Bulgarian.
"Our fathers, grandfathers, and great grandfathers have always been called Bulgarians"-Krste Misirkov

but what can we possibly do when we ourselves are Bulgarians .......
Text of Delcev's letter to Nikola Maleshevski:WE ARE BULGARIANS!
"Sofia, 01.05.1899, Kolyo, ... May the dissents and cleavages not frighten you. It is really a pity, but what can we possibly do when we ourselves are Bulgarians and all suffer from the same disease! If this disease had not existed in our forefathers who passed it on to us, we wouldn't have fallen under the ugly sceptre of the Turkish sultans..."


"We are Bulgarians and we always work and will work for the unification of the Bulgariandom."
-Dame Gruev (Director of the Bulgarian school in Stip).

" Respected representatives of the Bulgarian people, ....
Here is a excerpt from a letter written in 1861 by the people of Ohrid in protest to the arbitrariness of the Greek metropolite Meletius in which they insist on the restoration of the Ohrid Archbishopric closed back in 1767.
" Respected representatives of the Bulgarian people,
The undersigned inhabitants of Justiniana Prima or Ohrid, after seeing, on one hand, that regardless of all our hopes our common mother, the Great Church of Christ, did not pay attention to the petitions submitted to Her one after another in which we kindly beg Her to change Metropolite Meletius appointed against our will and requests, and ,on the other hand, informed that all our Bulgarian people is indignant with the same at the Great Church of Chris, considered it our inevitable duty to appoint you and recognize you, in accordance with our people, as our plenipotentiary representatives so you can petition, in the kindest fashion, the Sublime Porte to hear our our requests and deliver us from the arbitrariness of the Greek clergy by affirming the restoration of an autocephalous archbishopric of Ohridian Prima Justiniana and all Bulgaria....
April 9th, 1861
Prima Justiniana or Ohrid

There are no 'Macedonians'. There are Bulgars!
"Let me begin by correcting an almost universal fallacy. There are no 'Macedonians'. There are Bulgars. There are Roumans - the relics of the Latin-speaking provincials of Rome's Illyrian provinces, who still hold their own in the Pindus range and in the neighboring towns. There are Greeks, including more or less superficially Hellenized Roumans. There are 'Turks,' including Mohammedan Bulgarians, and some true Turkish villages in the Vardar valley representing a settlement earlier than the Ottoman conquest. There is an infusion of Skipetars or Albanians on the western and northern fringe. Finally, there is the large Spanish Jew population in Salonika. But there are no 'Macedonians'."
Sir Arthur J. Evans. English archaeologist.London Times, on September 30, 1903

STALIN:That a Macedonian consciousness has not yet developed among the population is of no account.
Otecestven Vestnik (Sofia daily), 19 June 1991
STALIN TO BULGARIAN DELEGATION
(G. Dimitrov, V. Kolarov, T. Kostov)
The Kremlin, 7 June 1946
Cultural autonomy must be granted to Pirin Macedonia within the framework of Bulgaria. Tito has shown himself more flexible than you - possibly because he lives in a multiethnic state and has had to give equal rights to the various peoples. Autonomy will be the first step towards the unification of Macedonia, but in view of the present situation there should be no hurry on this matter. Otherwise, in the eyes of the Macedonian people the whole mission of achieving Macedonian autonomy will remain with Tito and you will get the criticism. You seem to be afraid of Kimon Georgiev, you have involved yourselves too much with him and do not want to give autonomy to Pirin Macedonia. That a Macedonian consciousness has not yet developed among the population is of no account. No such consciousness existed in Byelorussia either when we proclaimed it a Soviet Republic. However, later it was shown that a Byelorussian people did in fact exist. ...

creation of a "Socialist Republic of Macedonia" with Skopje as capital is only a sad farce.
Dear Sir,
The magazine HISTORIA has just provided me with the very beautiful book that you so kindly sent me. I have first of all admired the presentation and then was struck by its contents.
Your thesis is brilliant. The Macedonians are and have always been Greeks, and the creation of a "Socialist Republic of Macedonia" with Skopje as capital is only a sad farce. I will not miss, when the opportunity arises, to pass this on.
In thanking you for having so kindly sent me your book, which has interested me even more, having myself written many works on Byzantium, I beg you to believe, dear Sir, by best feelings.
RENE GUERDAN

The referred Slavs were only "Serbian" and "Bulgarian"
The deliberately misleading use of the terms "Macedonians" and "Slavs" is exposed by two irrefutable Turkish documents. One is a population census of 1905, published by an Italian firm and the other is an election announcement of 1912 from Monastir (now Bitolj), which describes the candidates as Turks, Greeks, and Bulgarians. There was no such thing as "Macedonian" nationality during the Turkish period either. The referred Slavs were only "Serbian" and "Bulgarian"
(see Document No 10).
http://www.hri.org/Martis/contents/doc10.html

Ohrid:"Shepherd of the Bulgarians, remember the ruler Andronicos Palleologus, when sacrificing".
Shroud, XIII c.
Ochrid
Presented by the Emperor Andronicos II Palleologus (1282-1328) to the Ochrid Archbishop, inscribed with gold fibers: "Shepherd of the Bulgarians, remember the ruler Andronicos Palleologus, when sacrificing".

(National Museum of History, Sofia)




USKUB 1915: SKOPIANS!See to her your grandfathers....






A prosperous Bulgarian village among the hills.(BRUSNIK,NEAR MONASTIR)


MACEDONIA IS HELLENISM-NOT BULGARISM


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They wanted to have variety in their CONDOM SELECTION...

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Im still waiting to see the DOUBLE SUPER SECRET ARCHAIC BULGOSLAVIC LANGUAGE...KUNT

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WIPO needs to be shown the TROJAN vases with the Macedonian Star Device from 900 BC

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this info may form the basis of a LEGAL challenge to greece




Sun: (official flag, 1992-1995) The Vergina Sun is occasionally used to represent the Macedonian people by the diaspora through associations and cultural groups. The Vergina Sun is believed to have been associated with ancient Macedonian kings such as Alexander the Great and Philip II. The symbol was discovered in the Greek region of Macedonia and Greeks regard it as an exclusively Greek symbol, unrelated to Slavic cultures and it is copyrighted under WIPO as a State Emblem of Greece [27].



maybe the symbol was originally trojan (connected to modern macedonians) or perhaps phrygian (also now linked with modern Macedonians). The trojans used these future Macedonian symbols and also the Macedonia-origin phrygians. the connections to Macedonia of this star-device are very strongf and predate any connection to greece by hundreds of years:


ARCHAEOLOGICAL evidence that pre-dates any greek claims:


Side B: Two Greeks are fighting two barbarians, probably Trojans. The action is in two tiers, upper and lower, with the Greeks at left and the Trojans at right. The nude, bearded Greek at lower left charges to the right, his left leg advanced. He wears a Chalcidian helmet with a low crest and decorated bowl; his bordered chlamys billows out behind him. His shield is on his left arm, its interior fully revealed. With his right hand he thrusts at his opponent's shield with a long spear or sarissa, which has a pointed bronze butt. The beardless Trojan leans back before the assault, but with his right hand prepares to retaliate with a hatchet-like axe of a type commonly carried by Amazons. Indeed, the warrior may be an Amazon, an ally of the Trojans, although the male Colchian on the neck of side B is not dressed much differently. This Trojan wears a Phrygian helmet with a horsehair crest and spiral ornament, trousers and long-sleeved tunic decorated with zigzags, a short chiton decorated with embroidered designs, shoes, and a fancy belt. The shield on his left arm has a "Macedonian" star device; he clutches a pair of short throwing spears in his left hand. The second Trojan, above, is nude except for a billowing chlamys and a Phrygian helmet with spikey crest and spiral ornament. He carries a bow in his left hand (but no quiver) and a spear in his right, and like his compatriot is clean-shaven. His bearded Greek opponent is nearly identical to the first Greek, charging with the left leg advanced, the chlamys billowing behind, and he too is bearded. Unlike the other Greek, however, he wears a pilos helmet, which has fallen on the back of his head, and holds his spear with a different grip. Stylized plants grow between and behind the legs of the first Greek.

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Your ancestors BULGOSLAV, WERENT EVEN ON THE SAME CONTINENT....malaka KUNT

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ARCHAEOLOGICAL PROOF ASZWIPE

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mysteriously, the image seems to have disappeared from tufts university, but i have the name of the person who photographed it (as i have the name of the historian who claimed greek intimidates historians). you can run, but you can't hide.

let's see you argue your right to the image in light of this arcghaeological proof.

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Theres ample proof when BulgoSlavs came to the area..DOUCHEBAG...

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SCOOTER, ΚΑΤΑΛΑΒΑΙΝΕΙΣ ΤΩΡΑ ΤΗΝ ΠΑΓΙΑ ΘΕΣΗ ΜΟΥ ΟΤΙ ΜΕ ΑΥΤΟΥΣ ΠΡΕΠΕΙ ΝΑ ΣΥΖΗΤΑΜΕ ΜΟΝΟ

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ΓΙΑ ΤΟΥΣ ΑΡΧΑΙΟΥΣ ΧΡΟΝΟΥΣ; ΜΕΣΑ ΣΤΟΥΣ ΒΥΖΑΝΤΙΝΟΥΣ ΧΡΟΝΟΥΣ ΚΑΠΟΙΟΙ "ΑΚΑΤΟΝΟΜΑΣΤΟΙ" ΤΟΥΣ ΤΟΠΟΘΕΤΗΣΑΝ ΣΤΑ ΒΑΛΚΑΝΙΑ ΚΑΙ ΟΙ ΒΑΣΤΑΡΔΟΙ ΜΙΛΟΥΝ ΑΚΟΜΑ ΚΑΙ ΓΙΑ ΤΟΝ ΜΕΓΑ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟ...ΤΟΝ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΑ-ΣΚΙ.

ΑΥΤΟ ΕΙΝΑΙ ΕΝΑ ΡΑΠΙΣΜΑ ΓΙΑ ΤΟΝ¨"ΑΡΚΑΔΙ" ΚΑΙ ΤΗΝ "ΣΥΜΜΟΡΙΑ" ΤΟΥ.



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What can you say....

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FIND ARCHAEOLOGICAL PROOFS AFTER THE 7th CENTURY AD. Beyond this time you weren't there...

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VARDAR-BULGARSKI!YOUR BULGARIAN HISTORY........

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VARDAR-BULGARSKI!YOUR BULGARIAN HISTORY........
YOU, Bulgarian, in the name of the patriotism, freedom and saving your life, pay to the bearer of this invitation the sum of ...
Invitation from the central revolutionary commitee to all Bulgars in Skopje....


VMRO(BMPO) stamp in Bulgarian language..........


VMRO was first established in 1893 under the name of Bulgarian Macedono-Odrin Revolutionary Committee(BMPO).


The Bulgarian society in Skopje 1870 :


Bulgarian municipality - Prilep


Theophylacti Bulgariae archiepiscopi In omnes divi Pauli apostoli epistolas enarrationes
THEOPHYLACTUS, arcivescovo di Ochrida
http://www.comune.empoli.fi.it/biblioteca/CATALOGO/schede/sch785.html
http://www.comune.empoli.fi.it/biblioteca/CATALOGO/schede/front785.html

Theophylacti archiepiscopi Bulgariae In quator Evangelia enarrationes
THEOPHYLACTUS, arcivescovo di Ochrida
http://www.comune.empoli.fi.it/biblioteca/CATALOGO/schede/sch652.html
http://www.comune.empoli.fi.it/biblioteca/CATALOGO/schede/front652.html

Some villages have Serbian schools and some have Bulgarian schools.
"..in the towns Serbian schools can be found alongside the Bulgarian boys' and girls' elementary and grammar schools. Some villages have Serbian schools and some have Bulgarian schools. Some villagers, along with their teachers and priests, recognize the Patriarchate and come under the protection of the Serbian or Greek consul, while others recognize the Bulgarian Exarchate and place themselves under the authority of the Bulgarian trade representatives."-Misirkov Krste

MISIRKOV:"We are Bulgarian more than the Bulgarians in Bulgaria. The population of Skopje is pure Bulgarian.
"Our fathers, grandfathers, and great grandfathers have always been called Bulgarians"-Krste Misirkov

but what can we possibly do when we ourselves are Bulgarians .......
Text of Delcev's letter to Nikola Maleshevski:WE ARE BULGARIANS!
"Sofia, 01.05.1899, Kolyo, ... May the dissents and cleavages not frighten you. It is really a pity, but what can we possibly do when we ourselves are Bulgarians and all suffer from the same disease! If this disease had not existed in our forefathers who passed it on to us, we wouldn't have fallen under the ugly sceptre of the Turkish sultans..."


"We are Bulgarians and we always work and will work for the unification of the Bulgariandom."
-Dame Gruev (Director of the Bulgarian school in Stip).

" Respected representatives of the Bulgarian people, ....
Here is a excerpt from a letter written in 1861 by the people of Ohrid in protest to the arbitrariness of the Greek metropolite Meletius in which they insist on the restoration of the Ohrid Archbishopric closed back in 1767.
" Respected representatives of the Bulgarian people,
The undersigned inhabitants of Justiniana Prima or Ohrid, after seeing, on one hand, that regardless of all our hopes our common mother, the Great Church of Christ, did not pay attention to the petitions submitted to Her one after another in which we kindly beg Her to change Metropolite Meletius appointed against our will and requests, and ,on the other hand, informed that all our Bulgarian people is indignant with the same at the Great Church of Chris, considered it our inevitable duty to appoint you and recognize you, in accordance with our people, as our plenipotentiary representatives so you can petition, in the kindest fashion, the Sublime Porte to hear our our requests and deliver us from the arbitrariness of the Greek clergy by affirming the restoration of an autocephalous archbishopric of Ohridian Prima Justiniana and all Bulgaria....
April 9th, 1861
Prima Justiniana or Ohrid

There are no 'Macedonians'. There are Bulgars!
"Let me begin by correcting an almost universal fallacy. There are no 'Macedonians'. There are Bulgars. There are Roumans - the relics of the Latin-speaking provincials of Rome's Illyrian provinces, who still hold their own in the Pindus range and in the neighboring towns. There are Greeks, including more or less superficially Hellenized Roumans. There are 'Turks,' including Mohammedan Bulgarians, and some true Turkish villages in the Vardar valley representing a settlement earlier than the Ottoman conquest. There is an infusion of Skipetars or Albanians on the western and northern fringe. Finally, there is the large Spanish Jew population in Salonika. But there are no 'Macedonians'."
Sir Arthur J. Evans. English archaeologist.London Times, on September 30, 1903

STALIN:That a Macedonian consciousness has not yet developed among the population is of no account.
Otecestven Vestnik (Sofia daily), 19 June 1991
STALIN TO BULGARIAN DELEGATION
(G. Dimitrov, V. Kolarov, T. Kostov)
The Kremlin, 7 June 1946
Cultural autonomy must be granted to Pirin Macedonia within the framework of Bulgaria. Tito has shown himself more flexible than you - possibly because he lives in a multiethnic state and has had to give equal rights to the various peoples. Autonomy will be the first step towards the unification of Macedonia, but in view of the present situation there should be no hurry on this matter. Otherwise, in the eyes of the Macedonian people the whole mission of achieving Macedonian autonomy will remain with Tito and you will get the criticism. You seem to be afraid of Kimon Georgiev, you have involved yourselves too much with him and do not want to give autonomy to Pirin Macedonia. That a Macedonian consciousness has not yet developed among the population is of no account. No such consciousness existed in Byelorussia either when we proclaimed it a Soviet Republic. However, later it was shown that a Byelorussian people did in fact exist. ...

creation of a "Socialist Republic of Macedonia" with Skopje as capital is only a sad farce.
Dear Sir,
The magazine HISTORIA has just provided me with the very beautiful book that you so kindly sent me. I have first of all admired the presentation and then was struck by its contents.
Your thesis is brilliant. The Macedonians are and have always been Greeks, and the creation of a "Socialist Republic of Macedonia" with Skopje as capital is only a sad farce. I will not miss, when the opportunity arises, to pass this on.
In thanking you for having so kindly sent me your book, which has interested me even more, having myself written many works on Byzantium, I beg you to believe, dear Sir, by best feelings.
RENE GUERDAN

The referred Slavs were only "Serbian" and "Bulgarian"
The deliberately misleading use of the terms "Macedonians" and "Slavs" is exposed by two irrefutable Turkish documents. One is a population census of 1905, published by an Italian firm and the other is an election announcement of 1912 from Monastir (now Bitolj), which describes the candidates as Turks, Greeks, and Bulgarians. There was no such thing as "Macedonian" nationality during the Turkish period either. The referred Slavs were only "Serbian" and "Bulgarian"
(see Document No 10).
http://www.hri.org/Martis/contents/doc10.html

Ohrid:"Shepherd of the Bulgarians, remember the ruler Andronicos Palleologus, when sacrificing".
Shroud, XIII c.
Ochrid
Presented by the Emperor Andronicos II Palleologus (1282-1328) to the Ochrid Archbishop, inscribed with gold fibers: "Shepherd of the Bulgarians, remember the ruler Andronicos Palleologus, when sacrificing".

(National Museum of History, Sofia)




USKUB 1915: SKOPIANS!See to her your grandfathers....






A prosperous Bulgarian village among the hills.(BRUSNIK,NEAR MONASTIR)


MACEDONIA IS HELLENISM-NOT BULGARISM


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VARDAR-BULGARSKI!YOUR BULGARIAN HISTORY........

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VARDAR-BULGARSKI!YOUR BULGARIAN HISTORY........
YOU, Bulgarian, in the name of the patriotism, freedom and saving your life, pay to the bearer of this invitation the sum of ...
Invitation from the central revolutionary commitee to all Bulgars in Skopje....


VMRO(BMPO) stamp in Bulgarian language..........


VMRO was first established in 1893 under the name of Bulgarian Macedono-Odrin Revolutionary Committee(BMPO).


The Bulgarian society in Skopje 1870 :


Bulgarian municipality - Prilep


Theophylacti Bulgariae archiepiscopi In omnes divi Pauli apostoli epistolas enarrationes
THEOPHYLACTUS, arcivescovo di Ochrida
http://www.comune.empoli.fi.it/biblioteca/CATALOGO/schede/sch785.html
http://www.comune.empoli.fi.it/biblioteca/CATALOGO/schede/front785.html

Theophylacti archiepiscopi Bulgariae In quator Evangelia enarrationes
THEOPHYLACTUS, arcivescovo di Ochrida
http://www.comune.empoli.fi.it/biblioteca/CATALOGO/schede/sch652.html
http://www.comune.empoli.fi.it/biblioteca/CATALOGO/schede/front652.html

Some villages have Serbian schools and some have Bulgarian schools.
"..in the towns Serbian schools can be found alongside the Bulgarian boys' and girls' elementary and grammar schools. Some villages have Serbian schools and some have Bulgarian schools. Some villagers, along with their teachers and priests, recognize the Patriarchate and come under the protection of the Serbian or Greek consul, while others recognize the Bulgarian Exarchate and place themselves under the authority of the Bulgarian trade representatives."-Misirkov Krste

MISIRKOV:"We are Bulgarian more than the Bulgarians in Bulgaria. The population of Skopje is pure Bulgarian.
"Our fathers, grandfathers, and great grandfathers have always been called Bulgarians"-Krste Misirkov

but what can we possibly do when we ourselves are Bulgarians .......
Text of Delcev's letter to Nikola Maleshevski:WE ARE BULGARIANS!
"Sofia, 01.05.1899, Kolyo, ... May the dissents and cleavages not frighten you. It is really a pity, but what can we possibly do when we ourselves are Bulgarians and all suffer from the same disease! If this disease had not existed in our forefathers who passed it on to us, we wouldn't have fallen under the ugly sceptre of the Turkish sultans..."


"We are Bulgarians and we always work and will work for the unification of the Bulgariandom."
-Dame Gruev (Director of the Bulgarian school in Stip).

" Respected representatives of the Bulgarian people, ....
Here is a excerpt from a letter written in 1861 by the people of Ohrid in protest to the arbitrariness of the Greek metropolite Meletius in which they insist on the restoration of the Ohrid Archbishopric closed back in 1767.
" Respected representatives of the Bulgarian people,
The undersigned inhabitants of Justiniana Prima or Ohrid, after seeing, on one hand, that regardless of all our hopes our common mother, the Great Church of Christ, did not pay attention to the petitions submitted to Her one after another in which we kindly beg Her to change Metropolite Meletius appointed against our will and requests, and ,on the other hand, informed that all our Bulgarian people is indignant with the same at the Great Church of Chris, considered it our inevitable duty to appoint you and recognize you, in accordance with our people, as our plenipotentiary representatives so you can petition, in the kindest fashion, the Sublime Porte to hear our our requests and deliver us from the arbitrariness of the Greek clergy by affirming the restoration of an autocephalous archbishopric of Ohridian Prima Justiniana and all Bulgaria....
April 9th, 1861
Prima Justiniana or Ohrid

There are no 'Macedonians'. There are Bulgars!
"Let me begin by correcting an almost universal fallacy. There are no 'Macedonians'. There are Bulgars. There are Roumans - the relics of the Latin-speaking provincials of Rome's Illyrian provinces, who still hold their own in the Pindus range and in the neighboring towns. There are Greeks, including more or less superficially Hellenized Roumans. There are 'Turks,' including Mohammedan Bulgarians, and some true Turkish villages in the Vardar valley representing a settlement earlier than the Ottoman conquest. There is an infusion of Skipetars or Albanians on the western and northern fringe. Finally, there is the large Spanish Jew population in Salonika. But there are no 'Macedonians'."
Sir Arthur J. Evans. English archaeologist.London Times, on September 30, 1903

STALIN:That a Macedonian consciousness has not yet developed among the population is of no account.
Otecestven Vestnik (Sofia daily), 19 June 1991
STALIN TO BULGARIAN DELEGATION
(G. Dimitrov, V. Kolarov, T. Kostov)
The Kremlin, 7 June 1946
Cultural autonomy must be granted to Pirin Macedonia within the framework of Bulgaria. Tito has shown himself more flexible than you - possibly because he lives in a multiethnic state and has had to give equal rights to the various peoples. Autonomy will be the first step towards the unification of Macedonia, but in view of the present situation there should be no hurry on this matter. Otherwise, in the eyes of the Macedonian people the whole mission of achieving Macedonian autonomy will remain with Tito and you will get the criticism. You seem to be afraid of Kimon Georgiev, you have involved yourselves too much with him and do not want to give autonomy to Pirin Macedonia. That a Macedonian consciousness has not yet developed among the population is of no account. No such consciousness existed in Byelorussia either when we proclaimed it a Soviet Republic. However, later it was shown that a Byelorussian people did in fact exist. ...

creation of a "Socialist Republic of Macedonia" with Skopje as capital is only a sad farce.
Dear Sir,
The magazine HISTORIA has just provided me with the very beautiful book that you so kindly sent me. I have first of all admired the presentation and then was struck by its contents.
Your thesis is brilliant. The Macedonians are and have always been Greeks, and the creation of a "Socialist Republic of Macedonia" with Skopje as capital is only a sad farce. I will not miss, when the opportunity arises, to pass this on.
In thanking you for having so kindly sent me your book, which has interested me even more, having myself written many works on Byzantium, I beg you to believe, dear Sir, by best feelings.
RENE GUERDAN

The referred Slavs were only "Serbian" and "Bulgarian"
The deliberately misleading use of the terms "Macedonians" and "Slavs" is exposed by two irrefutable Turkish documents. One is a population census of 1905, published by an Italian firm and the other is an election announcement of 1912 from Monastir (now Bitolj), which describes the candidates as Turks, Greeks, and Bulgarians. There was no such thing as "Macedonian" nationality during the Turkish period either. The referred Slavs were only "Serbian" and "Bulgarian"
(see Document No 10).
http://www.hri.org/Martis/contents/doc10.html

Ohrid:"Shepherd of the Bulgarians, remember the ruler Andronicos Palleologus, when sacrificing".
Shroud, XIII c.
Ochrid
Presented by the Emperor Andronicos II Palleologus (1282-1328) to the Ochrid Archbishop, inscribed with gold fibers: "Shepherd of the Bulgarians, remember the ruler Andronicos Palleologus, when sacrificing".

(National Museum of History, Sofia)




USKUB 1915: SKOPIANS!See to her your grandfathers....






A prosperous Bulgarian village among the hills.(BRUSNIK,NEAR MONASTIR)


MACEDONIA IS HELLENISM-NOT BULGARISM


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Since when the MACEDONIAN STAR HAS BELONGED TO SLAVS?

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DO NOT FORGET WHAT GLIGOROV SAID...




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Is it true ancient greek was re-imposed on the so-called greeks less than 200 years ago?

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was not the language up until this time in greece significantly different? if that is the case, what happened to the greek language within greece before this?

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KUNT You dont SPEAK IT, READ IT, PRAY IT, LOOK IT,CANT EVEN FAKE IT.YOURE NOT IT.MAKEDONAS

by youre a fuc*cking BULGOSLAVlook in the mirror (no login)

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NICE TRY but HELLADA AND ELLHNES EXISTED, EXIST AND WILL EXIST...

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HELLENES without any classical studies can understand the ancient TEXTS. Can you understand the inscriptions in SACRED land of MACEDONIA?

GODS PROTECT YOU.


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VARDAR-BULGARSKI!YOUR BULGARIAN HISTORY........
YOU, Bulgarian, in the name of the patriotism, freedom and saving your life, pay to the bearer of this invitation the sum of ...
Invitation from the central revolutionary commitee to all Bulgars in Skopje....


VMRO(BMPO) stamp in Bulgarian language..........


VMRO was first established in 1893 under the name of Bulgarian Macedono-Odrin Revolutionary Committee(BMPO).


The Bulgarian society in Skopje 1870 :


Bulgarian municipality - Prilep


Theophylacti Bulgariae archiepiscopi In omnes divi Pauli apostoli epistolas enarrationes
THEOPHYLACTUS, arcivescovo di Ochrida
http://www.comune.empoli.fi.it/biblioteca/CATALOGO/schede/sch785.html
http://www.comune.empoli.fi.it/biblioteca/CATALOGO/schede/front785.html

Theophylacti archiepiscopi Bulgariae In quator Evangelia enarrationes
THEOPHYLACTUS, arcivescovo di Ochrida
http://www.comune.empoli.fi.it/biblioteca/CATALOGO/schede/sch652.html
http://www.comune.empoli.fi.it/biblioteca/CATALOGO/schede/front652.html

Some villages have Serbian schools and some have Bulgarian schools.
"..in the towns Serbian schools can be found alongside the Bulgarian boys' and girls' elementary and grammar schools. Some villages have Serbian schools and some have Bulgarian schools. Some villagers, along with their teachers and priests, recognize the Patriarchate and come under the protection of the Serbian or Greek consul, while others recognize the Bulgarian Exarchate and place themselves under the authority of the Bulgarian trade representatives."-Misirkov Krste

MISIRKOV:"We are Bulgarian more than the Bulgarians in Bulgaria. The population of Skopje is pure Bulgarian.
"Our fathers, grandfathers, and great grandfathers have always been called Bulgarians"-Krste Misirkov

but what can we possibly do when we ourselves are Bulgarians .......
Text of Delcev's letter to Nikola Maleshevski:WE ARE BULGARIANS!
"Sofia, 01.05.1899, Kolyo, ... May the dissents and cleavages not frighten you. It is really a pity, but what can we possibly do when we ourselves are Bulgarians and all suffer from the same disease! If this disease had not existed in our forefathers who passed it on to us, we wouldn't have fallen under the ugly sceptre of the Turkish sultans..."


"We are Bulgarians and we always work and will work for the unification of the Bulgariandom."
-Dame Gruev (Director of the Bulgarian school in Stip).

" Respected representatives of the Bulgarian people, ....
Here is a excerpt from a letter written in 1861 by the people of Ohrid in protest to the arbitrariness of the Greek metropolite Meletius in which they insist on the restoration of the Ohrid Archbishopric closed back in 1767.
" Respected representatives of the Bulgarian people,
The undersigned inhabitants of Justiniana Prima or Ohrid, after seeing, on one hand, that regardless of all our hopes our common mother, the Great Church of Christ, did not pay attention to the petitions submitted to Her one after another in which we kindly beg Her to change Metropolite Meletius appointed against our will and requests, and ,on the other hand, informed that all our Bulgarian people is indignant with the same at the Great Church of Chris, considered it our inevitable duty to appoint you and recognize you, in accordance with our people, as our plenipotentiary representatives so you can petition, in the kindest fashion, the Sublime Porte to hear our our requests and deliver us from the arbitrariness of the Greek clergy by affirming the restoration of an autocephalous archbishopric of Ohridian Prima Justiniana and all Bulgaria....
April 9th, 1861
Prima Justiniana or Ohrid

There are no 'Macedonians'. There are Bulgars!
"Let me begin by correcting an almost universal fallacy. There are no 'Macedonians'. There are Bulgars. There are Roumans - the relics of the Latin-speaking provincials of Rome's Illyrian provinces, who still hold their own in the Pindus range and in the neighboring towns. There are Greeks, including more or less superficially Hellenized Roumans. There are 'Turks,' including Mohammedan Bulgarians, and some true Turkish villages in the Vardar valley representing a settlement earlier than the Ottoman conquest. There is an infusion of Skipetars or Albanians on the western and northern fringe. Finally, there is the large Spanish Jew population in Salonika. But there are no 'Macedonians'."
Sir Arthur J. Evans. English archaeologist.London Times, on September 30, 1903

STALIN:That a Macedonian consciousness has not yet developed among the population is of no account.
Otecestven Vestnik (Sofia daily), 19 June 1991
STALIN TO BULGARIAN DELEGATION
(G. Dimitrov, V. Kolarov, T. Kostov)
The Kremlin, 7 June 1946
Cultural autonomy must be granted to Pirin Macedonia within the framework of Bulgaria. Tito has shown himself more flexible than you - possibly because he lives in a multiethnic state and has had to give equal rights to the various peoples. Autonomy will be the first step towards the unification of Macedonia, but in view of the present situation there should be no hurry on this matter. Otherwise, in the eyes of the Macedonian people the whole mission of achieving Macedonian autonomy will remain with Tito and you will get the criticism. You seem to be afraid of Kimon Georgiev, you have involved yourselves too much with him and do not want to give autonomy to Pirin Macedonia. That a Macedonian consciousness has not yet developed among the population is of no account. No such consciousness existed in Byelorussia either when we proclaimed it a Soviet Republic. However, later it was shown that a Byelorussian people did in fact exist. ...

creation of a "Socialist Republic of Macedonia" with Skopje as capital is only a sad farce.
Dear Sir,
The magazine HISTORIA has just provided me with the very beautiful book that you so kindly sent me. I have first of all admired the presentation and then was struck by its contents.
Your thesis is brilliant. The Macedonians are and have always been Greeks, and the creation of a "Socialist Republic of Macedonia" with Skopje as capital is only a sad farce. I will not miss, when the opportunity arises, to pass this on.
In thanking you for having so kindly sent me your book, which has interested me even more, having myself written many works on Byzantium, I beg you to believe, dear Sir, by best feelings.
RENE GUERDAN

The referred Slavs were only "Serbian" and "Bulgarian"
The deliberately misleading use of the terms "Macedonians" and "Slavs" is exposed by two irrefutable Turkish documents. One is a population census of 1905, published by an Italian firm and the other is an election announcement of 1912 from Monastir (now Bitolj), which describes the candidates as Turks, Greeks, and Bulgarians. There was no such thing as "Macedonian" nationality during the Turkish period either. The referred Slavs were only "Serbian" and "Bulgarian"
(see Document No 10).
http://www.hri.org/Martis/contents/doc10.html

Ohrid:"Shepherd of the Bulgarians, remember the ruler Andronicos Palleologus, when sacrificing".
Shroud, XIII c.
Ochrid
Presented by the Emperor Andronicos II Palleologus (1282-1328) to the Ochrid Archbishop, inscribed with gold fibers: "Shepherd of the Bulgarians, remember the ruler Andronicos Palleologus, when sacrificing".

(National Museum of History, Sofia)




USKUB 1915: SKOPIANS!See to her your grandfathers....






A prosperous Bulgarian village among the hills.(BRUSNIK,NEAR MONASTIR)


MACEDONIA IS HELLENISM-NOT BULGARISM


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Read about Greek Language in Byzantine and Ottoman times ....

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plenty of poems, litterature, school books, encyclopeadias ....

Istor
Solun or Thessaloniki?
Conflict about Macedonian name


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KUNT You dont SPEAK IT, READ IT, PRAY IT, LOOK IT,CANT EVEN FAKE IT.YOURE NOT IT.MAKEDONAS

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THE E.U. OFFICIALLY RECONGINEZES THIS ARTIFICIAL ENTITY AS FYROM

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WHEN THE ACCESSION TALKS BEGIN, THE E.U. WILL RE-RECOGNZE IT WITH ITS FINAL NAME...ONE THAT WILL MAKE GREECE HAPPY OR ELSE...NO E.U. AND FURTHER SLUMP INTO POLITCAL, ETHNIC AND ECONOMIC CHAOS IT'S A ONE-WAY ROAD FOR YOU BULGOSLAAAAVS
http://europa.eu/abc/maps/members/greece_r_en.htm


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THAT DAY WILL COME AND YOU'LL BE BEGGING FOR MERCY. TIME IS ON OUR SIDE BULGARS

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AND WE'LL HAVE THE LAST LAUGH


GREECE ALWAYS WINS IN THE BALKANS AND IT IS THE REGION'S ONLY SUCCESS STORY!

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UEFA: Milestone win for Macedonians

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Milestone win for Macedonians

the above was the headline on eufa. when you go deeper into the story they start referring to us as f.y.r. macedonia. i would be surprised if even 5% of readers even cared what f.y.r. stands for, let alone even notice it.

it's a nice day today


http://www.uefa.com/competitions/EURO/FixturesResults/Round=2241/match=83915/Report=RP.html

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Skopian usurpers stole the name. Not Greece's history.

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Have a nice day, animal.

DR. R. MALCOLM ERRINGTON


Professor oa ancient history at the university of Marburg, Germany


GEORGE CAWKWELL


Fellow and Praelector in Ancient History of University College, Oxford

J.R. HAMILTON




HERMANN BENGTSON




THOMAS MARTIN




DR PIERRE CABANES


Professor at the University of Paris X Nanterre and University of Clermont-Ferrand, France



ROBERT LANE FOX


Professor of ancient history at the Oxford University


DR ROBERT MORKOT


Professor of history at the University College, London, Warwick University, England and Birkbeck College, London


NICHOLAS HAMMOND


Professor of history at the Clare College, Cambridge, and at Clifton College, Bristol


RICHARD STONEMANN




ULRICH WILCKEN






George Cawkwell is a Fellow and Praelector in Ancient History of University College, Oxford. He has specialized in the history of the fourth century B.C.

"The Macedonians were Greeks. Their language was Greek, to judge by their personal names and by the names of months of the calendar; Macedonian ambassadors could appear before the Athenian assembly without needing interpreters; in all Demosthenes' sneer about their civilization there is no hint that Macedonians spoke other thatn Greek. But it was a distinct dialect not readily intelligible to other Greeks; linguistically as geographically, Macedonia was remote from the main stream of Greek life."

[George Cawkwell's "Philip of Macedon", 1978, London, Faber & Faber, p.22]


J.R. Hamilton, ‘Alexander the Great’
Hutchinson, London, 1973

J.R. Hamilton, in 1969, was Reader in the Department of Classics at the University of Otago, New Zealand. He was subsequently Associate Professor at the University of Auckland until his retirement in 1986.


"That the Macedonians were of Greek stock seems certain. The claim made by the Argead dynasty to be of Argive descent may be no more than a generally accepted myth, but Macedonian proper names, such as Ptolemaios or Philippos, are good Greek names, and the names of the Macedonian months, although differed from those of Athens or Sparta, were also Greek. The language spoken by the Macedonians, which Greeks of the classical period found intelligible, appears to have been a primitive north-west Greek dialect, much influenced by the languages of the neighboring barbarians."

[J.R. Hamilton, “Alexander the Great”, Hutchinson, London, 1973]

"He was still in a world [Macedonia] of Greek gods and sacrifices, of Greek plays and Greek language, though the natives might speak Greek with a northern accent which hardened "ch" into "g". "th" into "d" and pronounced King Philip as "Bilip"

[Robert Lane Fox's "Aleexander the Great", Penguin Books, p.30]





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Skopian history by Cambridge, Princeton, Indiana University Press

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"However, in the nineteenth century the term Macedonian was used almost exclusively to refer to the geographic region; the Macedonians were usually not considered a nationality separate from the Bulgarians, Greeks, Serbs, or Albanians. The diplomatic records of the period make no clar mention of a separate Macedonian nation."

[Barbara Jelavich, "History of the Balkans", vol. 2;Cambridge University Press, 1983, p.91]

"The establishment of a literary language was just one step in the building of a Macedonian nationality. It wasa also felt necessary to provide the proper historical background, and here serious problems arose. It was exceedingly difficult to distinguish Macedonian from Bulgarian history. Similar difficulties arose in connection with litterature, when the Skopje authorities tried to separate the Macedonian from the Bulgarian writers. In an effort to bolster the movement, the Macedonian Orthodox Church was removed from the juridiction of Belgrade in 1968 and granted autocephalous status"

[Barbara Jelavich, "History of the Balkans", vol 2, Cambridge University Press, 1983, p.399]

In addition to the new language, the new republic needed a history and this was quickly reflected in the new school textbooks. Here again bitter resentment was caused in Bulgaria since the Macedonian historical figures are also claimed by Bulgaria as Bulgarian heroes, e.g. the medieval emperor Samuil whose empire was centred around Lake Ohrid and Gotse Delchev. [...] Such a policy needed careful massaging and concealment. As Bulgarians pointed out, in the museum of the SR Macedonia it was not possible to see original works by the likes of the Miladinov brothers who had been in the forefront of Slav consciousness in the mid-nineteenth century, and were now claimed to be Macedonian as opposed to Bulgarian: in some of their works they clearly stated that they were Bulgarians"
[Hugh Poulton, "Who are the Macedonians?", Indiana University Press, p. 117]


Today's members of the Macedonian people, or narod, speak a Slavic language codified only after 1944 with fewer than 2 million native-speakers and a slender body of literature. Macedonians are, for the most part, members of an Orthodox Church whose authority was established by a socialist political rιgime in 1968. Their kin-terms, household structures, marriage practices, and vernacular culture all closely resemble those of neighboring groups. THEY ARE DESCENDED FROM PEOPLE WHO WERE CALLED, AND AT TIMES CALLED THEMSELVES, SERBS OR BULGARIANS."

[Keith Brown, "The Past in Question: Modern Macedonia and the Encertainties of Nation", 2003, Princeton Unicersity Press, p.2]

"The Krusevo manifesto was declared, assuring the population that the uprising was against the Sultan and not against Muslims in general, and that all peoples would be included. As the population of Krusevo was two thirds hellenised Vlachs and Patriarchist Slavs, this was a wise move. Despite these promises the insurgent flew BULGARIAN FLAGS everywhere and in many places the uprising did entail attacks on Muslim Turks and Albanians wh themselves organised for self defence."

[Hugh Poulton, "Who are the Macedonians", Indiana University Press, 2000, p.57]


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Stefan Troebst, University of Leipzig, Germany. Skopian link.

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"What then was directed to the Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia refers, in the greatest part, to present Macedonia as well. The titular nation of the Balkan state, which gained independence in 1991, and its political representatives used the “history” as an argument for retaining the concept of democracy on ethnic lines as a fully closed representation: according to the ethno-centric point of view of the Macedonian majority “well, they did not fight for more than a century” for independence to now divide their own state with the Albanian “immigrants” from the Yugoslav time! [11] This level of reflection is the same as from the first Constitution of the Republic of Macedonia, in whose (in the meantime outdated) Preamble, the country is defined as a “national state of the Macedonian nation”, while granting lower status to the other third of the population, “the Albanians, Turks, Vlachs, Romani and other minorities” [12] . Bearing in mind the modern history of the region around Macedonia, this is actually a completely unhistorical definition, because the movement for autonomy in the Osmanli Macedonia near the end of the 19th and the beginning of the 20th centuries, which the Constitutional Preamble refers to, operated in a multiethnic even supranational regional concept in which the notion “Macedonian” existed as a common term for the Bulgarians, Turks, Vlachs, Jews, Serbs, Albanians, Greeks and others [13] . The ethno-national connotation of the signifier “Macedonian”, which was aimed at the Christian Orthodox, south Slavic language nation, and additionally at the Bulgarians and Serbs, and was itself unknown in the central Balkan region of that time, gained significance only after the Second World War."

http://www.newbalkanpolitics.org.mk/OldSite/Issue_6/troebst.historical.eng.asp


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TRUE..EVERSINCE THE HELLENISTIC PERIOD, "MACEDONIA" REFERS TO A GEOGRAPHICAL REGION AND

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NOT AN ETHNICITY

FOR INSTANCE IN THE MIDDLE AGES, TBULGARIAN SLAVS SETTLED IN PARTS OF MACEDONIA AND THE MORONS, TODAY, THINK THEY ARE "MACEDONIAN"



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I LIKED THIS PART THE MOST

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<<<<"The Macedonians were Greeks. Their language was Greek, to judge by their personal names and by the names of months of the calendar; Macedonian ambassadors could appear before the Athenian assembly without needing interpreters;>>>



REMINDS ME OF THE BULGAROSLAVS OF SKOPJIE, WHO DO NOT NEED AN INTERPRETER WHEN THEY VISIT BULGARIA AND VICE VERSA

THE TIME IS TICKING TO OUR ADVANTAGE BULGARS. SOON, YOU'LL BE BEGGING FOR EU/NATO AND THEN, YOU'LL HAVE TO SIT DOWN AND HAVE A LITTLE TALK WITH GREECE



WE'LL CHANGE YOUR NAME

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You will like that too...Ulrich Wilcken, ‘Alexander the Great’

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Ulrich Wilcken, ‘Alexander the Great’
W.W. Norton & Company, Reissue Edition March 1997

"It seems more and more certain that the Macedonians were a Greek tribe related to the Dorians. However, as they stayed high up in the distant north, they could not participate in the progress of civilization of the Greek people that migrated southward..."

"A strong Illyrian and Thracian influence can thus be recognized in Macedonian speech and manners. These however are only trifles compared with the Greek character of the Macedonian nationality; for example the names of the true full blooded Macedonians, especially of the princes and nobles, are purely Greek in their formation and sounds."

"And yet when we take into account the political conditions, religion and morals of the Macedonians, our conviction is strengthened that they were a Greek race akin to the Dorians."


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I'M SURE GREECE WILL INCLUDE ALL THESE IN ITS CAUSE WHEN THE TIME COMES TO CHANGE THEIR

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NAME...

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VARDAR-BULGARSKI!YOUR BULGARIAN HISTORY........

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VARDAR-BULGARSKI!YOUR BULGARIAN HISTORY........
YOU, Bulgarian, in the name of the patriotism, freedom and saving your life, pay to the bearer of this invitation the sum of ...
Invitation from the central revolutionary commitee to all Bulgars in Skopje....


VMRO(BMPO) stamp in Bulgarian language..........


VMRO was first established in 1893 under the name of Bulgarian Macedono-Odrin Revolutionary Committee(BMPO).


The Bulgarian society in Skopje 1870 :


Bulgarian municipality - Prilep


Theophylacti Bulgariae archiepiscopi In omnes divi Pauli apostoli epistolas enarrationes
THEOPHYLACTUS, arcivescovo di Ochrida
http://www.comune.empoli.fi.it/biblioteca/CATALOGO/schede/sch785.html
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Theophylacti archiepiscopi Bulgariae In quator Evangelia enarrationes
THEOPHYLACTUS, arcivescovo di Ochrida
http://www.comune.empoli.fi.it/biblioteca/CATALOGO/schede/sch652.html
http://www.comune.empoli.fi.it/biblioteca/CATALOGO/schede/front652.html

Some villages have Serbian schools and some have Bulgarian schools.
"..in the towns Serbian schools can be found alongside the Bulgarian boys' and girls' elementary and grammar schools. Some villages have Serbian schools and some have Bulgarian schools. Some villagers, along with their teachers and priests, recognize the Patriarchate and come under the protection of the Serbian or Greek consul, while others recognize the Bulgarian Exarchate and place themselves under the authority of the Bulgarian trade representatives."-Misirkov Krste

MISIRKOV:"We are Bulgarian more than the Bulgarians in Bulgaria. The population of Skopje is pure Bulgarian.
"Our fathers, grandfathers, and great grandfathers have always been called Bulgarians"-Krste Misirkov

but what can we possibly do when we ourselves are Bulgarians .......
Text of Delcev's letter to Nikola Maleshevski:WE ARE BULGARIANS!
"Sofia, 01.05.1899, Kolyo, ... May the dissents and cleavages not frighten you. It is really a pity, but what can we possibly do when we ourselves are Bulgarians and all suffer from the same disease! If this disease had not existed in our forefathers who passed it on to us, we wouldn't have fallen under the ugly sceptre of the Turkish sultans..."


"We are Bulgarians and we always work and will work for the unification of the Bulgariandom."
-Dame Gruev (Director of the Bulgarian school in Stip).

" Respected representatives of the Bulgarian people, ....
Here is a excerpt from a letter written in 1861 by the people of Ohrid in protest to the arbitrariness of the Greek metropolite Meletius in which they insist on the restoration of the Ohrid Archbishopric closed back in 1767.
" Respected representatives of the Bulgarian people,
The undersigned inhabitants of Justiniana Prima or Ohrid, after seeing, on one hand, that regardless of all our hopes our common mother, the Great Church of Christ, did not pay attention to the petitions submitted to Her one after another in which we kindly beg Her to change Metropolite Meletius appointed against our will and requests, and ,on the other hand, informed that all our Bulgarian people is indignant with the same at the Great Church of Chris, considered it our inevitable duty to appoint you and recognize you, in accordance with our people, as our plenipotentiary representatives so you can petition, in the kindest fashion, the Sublime Porte to hear our our requests and deliver us from the arbitrariness of the Greek clergy by affirming the restoration of an autocephalous archbishopric of Ohridian Prima Justiniana and all Bulgaria....
April 9th, 1861
Prima Justiniana or Ohrid

There are no 'Macedonians'. There are Bulgars!
"Let me begin by correcting an almost universal fallacy. There are no 'Macedonians'. There are Bulgars. There are Roumans - the relics of the Latin-speaking provincials of Rome's Illyrian provinces, who still hold their own in the Pindus range and in the neighboring towns. There are Greeks, including more or less superficially Hellenized Roumans. There are 'Turks,' including Mohammedan Bulgarians, and some true Turkish villages in the Vardar valley representing a settlement earlier than the Ottoman conquest. There is an infusion of Skipetars or Albanians on the western and northern fringe. Finally, there is the large Spanish Jew population in Salonika. But there are no 'Macedonians'."
Sir Arthur J. Evans. English archaeologist.London Times, on September 30, 1903

STALIN:That a Macedonian consciousness has not yet developed among the population is of no account.
Otecestven Vestnik (Sofia daily), 19 June 1991
STALIN TO BULGARIAN DELEGATION
(G. Dimitrov, V. Kolarov, T. Kostov)
The Kremlin, 7 June 1946
Cultural autonomy must be granted to Pirin Macedonia within the framework of Bulgaria. Tito has shown himself more flexible than you - possibly because he lives in a multiethnic state and has had to give equal rights to the various peoples. Autonomy will be the first step towards the unification of Macedonia, but in view of the present situation there should be no hurry on this matter. Otherwise, in the eyes of the Macedonian people the whole mission of achieving Macedonian autonomy will remain with Tito and you will get the criticism. You seem to be afraid of Kimon Georgiev, you have involved yourselves too much with him and do not want to give autonomy to Pirin Macedonia. That a Macedonian consciousness has not yet developed among the population is of no account. No such consciousness existed in Byelorussia either when we proclaimed it a Soviet Republic. However, later it was shown that a Byelorussian people did in fact exist. ...

creation of a "Socialist Republic of Macedonia" with Skopje as capital is only a sad farce.
Dear Sir,
The magazine HISTORIA has just provided me with the very beautiful book that you so kindly sent me. I have first of all admired the presentation and then was struck by its contents.
Your thesis is brilliant. The Macedonians are and have always been Greeks, and the creation of a "Socialist Republic of Macedonia" with Skopje as capital is only a sad farce. I will not miss, when the opportunity arises, to pass this on.
In thanking you for having so kindly sent me your book, which has interested me even more, having myself written many works on Byzantium, I beg you to believe, dear Sir, by best feelings.
RENE GUERDAN

The referred Slavs were only "Serbian" and "Bulgarian"
The deliberately misleading use of the terms "Macedonians" and "Slavs" is exposed by two irrefutable Turkish documents. One is a population census of 1905, published by an Italian firm and the other is an election announcement of 1912 from Monastir (now Bitolj), which describes the candidates as Turks, Greeks, and Bulgarians. There was no such thing as "Macedonian" nationality during the Turkish period either. The referred Slavs were only "Serbian" and "Bulgarian"
(see Document No 10).
http://www.hri.org/Martis/contents/doc10.html

Ohrid:"Shepherd of the Bulgarians, remember the ruler Andronicos Palleologus, when sacrificing".
Shroud, XIII c.
Ochrid
Presented by the Emperor Andronicos II Palleologus (1282-1328) to the Ochrid Archbishop, inscribed with gold fibers: "Shepherd of the Bulgarians, remember the ruler Andronicos Palleologus, when sacrificing".

(National Museum of History, Sofia)




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A prosperous Bulgarian village among the hills.(BRUSNIK,NEAR MONASTIR)


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Kunt, in Harvard students are not taught that "Aleksandar Makaronski" from "Postol&qu

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Ok, the man of the street know your sh*thole as "Macedonia". As you say, he is uninformed and, above all, unconcerned (hence the recognition by many countries) They simply don't care. Those who know, the educated people, not only in the international community but also inside the FYROM know that your kinds who are culturally 100 % Slavic (language, names, toponyms)have very little to do with the ancients Macedonians who were GREEKS. Remember, students are taught that Macedonians were Greeks.

DR. R. MALCOLM ERRINGTON


Professor oa ancient history at the university of Marburg, Germany


GEORGE CAWKWELL


Fellow and Praelector in Ancient History of University College, Oxford

J.R. HAMILTON




HERMANN BENGTSON




THOMAS MARTIN




DR PIERRE CABANES


Professor at the University of Paris X Nanterre and University of Clermont-Ferrand, France



ROBERT LANE FOX


Professor of ancient history at the Oxford University


DR ROBERT MORKOT


Professor of history at the University College, London, Warwick University, England and Birkbeck College, London


NICHOLAS HAMMOND


Professor of history at the Clare College, Cambridge, and at Clifton College, Bristol


RICHARD STONEMANN




ULRICH WILCKEN






George Cawkwell is a Fellow and Praelector in Ancient History of University College, Oxford. He has specialized in the history of the fourth century B.C.

"The Macedonians were Greeks. Their language was Greek, to judge by their personal names and by the names of months of the calendar; Macedonian ambassadors could appear before the Athenian assembly without needing interpreters; in all Demosthenes' sneer about their civilization there is no hint that Macedonians spoke other thatn Greek. But it was a distinct dialect not readily intelligible to other Greeks; linguistically as geographically, Macedonia was remote from the main stream of Greek life."

[George Cawkwell's "Philip of Macedon", 1978, London, Faber & Faber, p.22]


J.R. Hamilton, ‘Alexander the Great’
Hutchinson, London, 1973

J.R. Hamilton, in 1969, was Reader in the Department of Classics at the University of Otago, New Zealand. He was subsequently Associate Professor at the University of Auckland until his retirement in 1986.


"That the Macedonians were of Greek stock seems certain. The claim made by the Argead dynasty to be of Argive descent may be no more than a generally accepted myth, but Macedonian proper names, such as Ptolemaios or Philippos, are good Greek names, and the names of the Macedonian months, although differed from those of Athens or Sparta, were also Greek. The language spoken by the Macedonians, which Greeks of the classical period found intelligible, appears to have been a primitive north-west Greek dialect, much influenced by the languages of the neighboring barbarians."

[J.R. Hamilton, “Alexander the Great”, Hutchinson, London, 1973]

"He was still in a world [Macedonia] of Greek gods and sacrifices, of Greek plays and Greek language, though the natives might speak Greek with a northern accent which hardened "ch" into "g". "th" into "d" and pronounced King Philip as "Bilip"

[Robert Lane Fox's "Aleexander the Great", Penguin Books, p.30]



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GREECE LOST THE NAME ISSUE A LOOOOOOOOONG TIME AGO

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the general media (papers, tv, radio, internet etc) loathes using extra space for writing and spending extra time typing extra letters and their audience loathes being confused with qualifiers on names and such. given it's overall awkwardness, using the fyrom name is cumbersome for both media and their audience. so simplicity is best and the simplest way to refer to our country is as 'Macedonia" which is what the media and the general public are doing. progressive greeks, having realized this, have already conceded defeat.


have a pleasant day

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I CAN ASSURE YOU BULGARIAN MOTHERFVCKER!ON EVERY OFFICIAL OCASSION YOU WILL BE NAMED

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YOU WILL NEVER ENTER THE EU!WITH THE NAME MACEDONIA!

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THE SAME MEDIA USED TO CALL SEBRIA "YUGOSLAVIA" UNTIL RECENTLY, SO, BE PREPARED FOR

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A SIMILLAR REFERENCE ON YOU AS SOMETHING ELSE


SOON, YOU'LL BE BEGGING FOR EU/NATO MEMBERSHIP

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Serbia was a country within a union

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so was macedonia. now that that union is no more, the individual parts are known by their constituent names. hence serbia, and another little country that rose from the ashes of yugo - Macedonia.


good luck in all your endeavours today

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AND SO ARE YOU BULGARS: A UNION WITH ALBANIANS, GYPSIES AND TURKS...OH...AND

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A FEW SERBS

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VARDAR-BULGARSKI!YOUR BULGARIAN HISTORY........

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VARDAR-BULGARSKI!YOUR BULGARIAN HISTORY........
YOU, Bulgarian, in the name of the patriotism, freedom and saving your life, pay to the bearer of this invitation the sum of ...
Invitation from the central revolutionary commitee to all Bulgars in Skopje....


VMRO(BMPO) stamp in Bulgarian language..........


VMRO was first established in 1893 under the name of Bulgarian Macedono-Odrin Revolutionary Committee(BMPO).


The Bulgarian society in Skopje 1870 :


Bulgarian municipality - Prilep


Theophylacti Bulgariae archiepiscopi In omnes divi Pauli apostoli epistolas enarrationes
THEOPHYLACTUS, arcivescovo di Ochrida
http://www.comune.empoli.fi.it/biblioteca/CATALOGO/schede/sch785.html
http://www.comune.empoli.fi.it/biblioteca/CATALOGO/schede/front785.html

Theophylacti archiepiscopi Bulgariae In quator Evangelia enarrationes
THEOPHYLACTUS, arcivescovo di Ochrida
http://www.comune.empoli.fi.it/biblioteca/CATALOGO/schede/sch652.html
http://www.comune.empoli.fi.it/biblioteca/CATALOGO/schede/front652.html

Some villages have Serbian schools and some have Bulgarian schools.
"..in the towns Serbian schools can be found alongside the Bulgarian boys' and girls' elementary and grammar schools. Some villages have Serbian schools and some have Bulgarian schools. Some villagers, along with their teachers and priests, recognize the Patriarchate and come under the protection of the Serbian or Greek consul, while others recognize the Bulgarian Exarchate and place themselves under the authority of the Bulgarian trade representatives."-Misirkov Krste

MISIRKOV:"We are Bulgarian more than the Bulgarians in Bulgaria. The population of Skopje is pure Bulgarian.
"Our fathers, grandfathers, and great grandfathers have always been called Bulgarians"-Krste Misirkov

but what can we possibly do when we ourselves are Bulgarians .......
Text of Delcev's letter to Nikola Maleshevski:WE ARE BULGARIANS!
"Sofia, 01.05.1899, Kolyo, ... May the dissents and cleavages not frighten you. It is really a pity, but what can we possibly do when we ourselves are Bulgarians and all suffer from the same disease! If this disease had not existed in our forefathers who passed it on to us, we wouldn't have fallen under the ugly sceptre of the Turkish sultans..."


"We are Bulgarians and we always work and will work for the unification of the Bulgariandom."
-Dame Gruev (Director of the Bulgarian school in Stip).

" Respected representatives of the Bulgarian people, ....
Here is a excerpt from a letter written in 1861 by the people of Ohrid in protest to the arbitrariness of the Greek metropolite Meletius in which they insist on the restoration of the Ohrid Archbishopric closed back in 1767.
" Respected representatives of the Bulgarian people,
The undersigned inhabitants of Justiniana Prima or Ohrid, after seeing, on one hand, that regardless of all our hopes our common mother, the Great Church of Christ, did not pay attention to the petitions submitted to Her one after another in which we kindly beg Her to change Metropolite Meletius appointed against our will and requests, and ,on the other hand, informed that all our Bulgarian people is indignant with the same at the Great Church of Chris, considered it our inevitable duty to appoint you and recognize you, in accordance with our people, as our plenipotentiary representatives so you can petition, in the kindest fashion, the Sublime Porte to hear our our requests and deliver us from the arbitrariness of the Greek clergy by affirming the restoration of an autocephalous archbishopric of Ohridian Prima Justiniana and all Bulgaria....
April 9th, 1861
Prima Justiniana or Ohrid

There are no 'Macedonians'. There are Bulgars!
"Let me begin by correcting an almost universal fallacy. There are no 'Macedonians'. There are Bulgars. There are Roumans - the relics of the Latin-speaking provincials of Rome's Illyrian provinces, who still hold their own in the Pindus range and in the neighboring towns. There are Greeks, including more or less superficially Hellenized Roumans. There are 'Turks,' including Mohammedan Bulgarians, and some true Turkish villages in the Vardar valley representing a settlement earlier than the Ottoman conquest. There is an infusion of Skipetars or Albanians on the western and northern fringe. Finally, there is the large Spanish Jew population in Salonika. But there are no 'Macedonians'."
Sir Arthur J. Evans. English archaeologist.London Times, on September 30, 1903

STALIN:That a Macedonian consciousness has not yet developed among the population is of no account.
Otecestven Vestnik (Sofia daily), 19 June 1991
STALIN TO BULGARIAN DELEGATION
(G. Dimitrov, V. Kolarov, T. Kostov)
The Kremlin, 7 June 1946
Cultural autonomy must be granted to Pirin Macedonia within the framework of Bulgaria. Tito has shown himself more flexible than you - possibly because he lives in a multiethnic state and has had to give equal rights to the various peoples. Autonomy will be the first step towards the unification of Macedonia, but in view of the present situation there should be no hurry on this matter. Otherwise, in the eyes of the Macedonian people the whole mission of achieving Macedonian autonomy will remain with Tito and you will get the criticism. You seem to be afraid of Kimon Georgiev, you have involved yourselves too much with him and do not want to give autonomy to Pirin Macedonia. That a Macedonian consciousness has not yet developed among the population is of no account. No such consciousness existed in Byelorussia either when we proclaimed it a Soviet Republic. However, later it was shown that a Byelorussian people did in fact exist. ...

creation of a "Socialist Republic of Macedonia" with Skopje as capital is only a sad farce.
Dear Sir,
The magazine HISTORIA has just provided me with the very beautiful book that you so kindly sent me. I have first of all admired the presentation and then was struck by its contents.
Your thesis is brilliant. The Macedonians are and have always been Greeks, and the creation of a "Socialist Republic of Macedonia" with Skopje as capital is only a sad farce. I will not miss, when the opportunity arises, to pass this on.
In thanking you for having so kindly sent me your book, which has interested me even more, having myself written many works on Byzantium, I beg you to believe, dear Sir, by best feelings.
RENE GUERDAN

The referred Slavs were only "Serbian" and "Bulgarian"
The deliberately misleading use of the terms "Macedonians" and "Slavs" is exposed by two irrefutable Turkish documents. One is a population census of 1905, published by an Italian firm and the other is an election announcement of 1912 from Monastir (now Bitolj), which describes the candidates as Turks, Greeks, and Bulgarians. There was no such thing as "Macedonian" nationality during the Turkish period either. The referred Slavs were only "Serbian" and "Bulgarian"
(see Document No 10).
http://www.hri.org/Martis/contents/doc10.html

Ohrid:"Shepherd of the Bulgarians, remember the ruler Andronicos Palleologus, when sacrificing".
Shroud, XIII c.
Ochrid
Presented by the Emperor Andronicos II Palleologus (1282-1328) to the Ochrid Archbishop, inscribed with gold fibers: "Shepherd of the Bulgarians, remember the ruler Andronicos Palleologus, when sacrificing".

(National Museum of History, Sofia)




USKUB 1915: SKOPIANS!See to her your grandfathers....






A prosperous Bulgarian village among the hills.(BRUSNIK,NEAR MONASTIR)


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It needed a decade for World's media to change the name of High Volta to Burgina Faso ...

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after the change of the country's name.

We are waiting for you in EU door

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For you it takes less than a decade because your country is more ...

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important than Burgina Faso in World's Civilization !!

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OR MYANMAR, THAT USED TO BE CALLED, "BURMA"

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Re: It needed a decade for World's media to change the name of High Volta to Burgina Faso ...

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istor, try this at home: say out loud: f-o-r-m-e-r y-u-g-o-s-l-a-v r-e-p-u-b-l-i-c o-f m-a-c-e-d-o-n-i-a

then, try saying this at home: mac-e-donia

all the best to you for today

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C U AT THE E.U. WITH ANOTHER NAME BULGOSLAV...WANNA BET?

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FYROM <> Μακεδονία sounds good !

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after all what is Macedonian in FYROM? Heroes, may7be ??

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VARDAR-BULGARSKI!YOUR BULGARIAN HISTORY........
YOU, Bulgarian, in the name of the patriotism, freedom and saving your life, pay to the bearer of this invitation the sum of ...
Invitation from the central revolutionary commitee to all Bulgars in Skopje....


VMRO(BMPO) stamp in Bulgarian language..........


VMRO was first established in 1893 under the name of Bulgarian Macedono-Odrin Revolutionary Committee(BMPO).


The Bulgarian society in Skopje 1870 :


Bulgarian municipality - Prilep


Theophylacti Bulgariae archiepiscopi In omnes divi Pauli apostoli epistolas enarrationes
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THEOPHYLACTUS, arcivescovo di Ochrida
http://www.comune.empoli.fi.it/biblioteca/CATALOGO/schede/sch652.html
http://www.comune.empoli.fi.it/biblioteca/CATALOGO/schede/front652.html

Some villages have Serbian schools and some have Bulgarian schools.
"..in the towns Serbian schools can be found alongside the Bulgarian boys' and girls' elementary and grammar schools. Some villages have Serbian schools and some have Bulgarian schools. Some villagers, along with their teachers and priests, recognize the Patriarchate and come under the protection of the Serbian or Greek consul, while others recognize the Bulgarian Exarchate and place themselves under the authority of the Bulgarian trade representatives."-Misirkov Krste

MISIRKOV:"We are Bulgarian more than the Bulgarians in Bulgaria. The population of Skopje is pure Bulgarian.
"Our fathers, grandfathers, and great grandfathers have always been called Bulgarians"-Krste Misirkov

but what can we possibly do when we ourselves are Bulgarians .......
Text of Delcev's letter to Nikola Maleshevski:WE ARE BULGARIANS!
"Sofia, 01.05.1899, Kolyo, ... May the dissents and cleavages not frighten you. It is really a pity, but what can we possibly do when we ourselves are Bulgarians and all suffer from the same disease! If this disease had not existed in our forefathers who passed it on to us, we wouldn't have fallen under the ugly sceptre of the Turkish sultans..."


"We are Bulgarians and we always work and will work for the unification of the Bulgariandom."
-Dame Gruev (Director of the Bulgarian school in Stip).

" Respected representatives of the Bulgarian people, ....
Here is a excerpt from a letter written in 1861 by the people of Ohrid in protest to the arbitrariness of the Greek metropolite Meletius in which they insist on the restoration of the Ohrid Archbishopric closed back in 1767.
" Respected representatives of the Bulgarian people,
The undersigned inhabitants of Justiniana Prima or Ohrid, after seeing, on one hand, that regardless of all our hopes our common mother, the Great Church of Christ, did not pay attention to the petitions submitted to Her one after another in which we kindly beg Her to change Metropolite Meletius appointed against our will and requests, and ,on the other hand, informed that all our Bulgarian people is indignant with the same at the Great Church of Chris, considered it our inevitable duty to appoint you and recognize you, in accordance with our people, as our plenipotentiary representatives so you can petition, in the kindest fashion, the Sublime Porte to hear our our requests and deliver us from the arbitrariness of the Greek clergy by affirming the restoration of an autocephalous archbishopric of Ohridian Prima Justiniana and all Bulgaria....
April 9th, 1861
Prima Justiniana or Ohrid

There are no 'Macedonians'. There are Bulgars!
"Let me begin by correcting an almost universal fallacy. There are no 'Macedonians'. There are Bulgars. There are Roumans - the relics of the Latin-speaking provincials of Rome's Illyrian provinces, who still hold their own in the Pindus range and in the neighboring towns. There are Greeks, including more or less superficially Hellenized Roumans. There are 'Turks,' including Mohammedan Bulgarians, and some true Turkish villages in the Vardar valley representing a settlement earlier than the Ottoman conquest. There is an infusion of Skipetars or Albanians on the western and northern fringe. Finally, there is the large Spanish Jew population in Salonika. But there are no 'Macedonians'."
Sir Arthur J. Evans. English archaeologist.London Times, on September 30, 1903

STALIN:That a Macedonian consciousness has not yet developed among the population is of no account.
Otecestven Vestnik (Sofia daily), 19 June 1991
STALIN TO BULGARIAN DELEGATION
(G. Dimitrov, V. Kolarov, T. Kostov)
The Kremlin, 7 June 1946
Cultural autonomy must be granted to Pirin Macedonia within the framework of Bulgaria. Tito has shown himself more flexible than you - possibly because he lives in a multiethnic state and has had to give equal rights to the various peoples. Autonomy will be the first step towards the unification of Macedonia, but in view of the present situation there should be no hurry on this matter. Otherwise, in the eyes of the Macedonian people the whole mission of achieving Macedonian autonomy will remain with Tito and you will get the criticism. You seem to be afraid of Kimon Georgiev, you have involved yourselves too much with him and do not want to give autonomy to Pirin Macedonia. That a Macedonian consciousness has not yet developed among the population is of no account. No such consciousness existed in Byelorussia either when we proclaimed it a Soviet Republic. However, later it was shown that a Byelorussian people did in fact exist. ...

creation of a "Socialist Republic of Macedonia" with Skopje as capital is only a sad farce.
Dear Sir,
The magazine HISTORIA has just provided me with the very beautiful book that you so kindly sent me. I have first of all admired the presentation and then was struck by its contents.
Your thesis is brilliant. The Macedonians are and have always been Greeks, and the creation of a "Socialist Republic of Macedonia" with Skopje as capital is only a sad farce. I will not miss, when the opportunity arises, to pass this on.
In thanking you for having so kindly sent me your book, which has interested me even more, having myself written many works on Byzantium, I beg you to believe, dear Sir, by best feelings.
RENE GUERDAN

The referred Slavs were only "Serbian" and "Bulgarian"
The deliberately misleading use of the terms "Macedonians" and "Slavs" is exposed by two irrefutable Turkish documents. One is a population census of 1905, published by an Italian firm and the other is an election announcement of 1912 from Monastir (now Bitolj), which describes the candidates as Turks, Greeks, and Bulgarians. There was no such thing as "Macedonian" nationality during the Turkish period either. The referred Slavs were only "Serbian" and "Bulgarian"
(see Document No 10).
http://www.hri.org/Martis/contents/doc10.html

Ohrid:"Shepherd of the Bulgarians, remember the ruler Andronicos Palleologus, when sacrificing".
Shroud, XIII c.
Ochrid
Presented by the Emperor Andronicos II Palleologus (1282-1328) to the Ochrid Archbishop, inscribed with gold fibers: "Shepherd of the Bulgarians, remember the ruler Andronicos Palleologus, when sacrificing".

(National Museum of History, Sofia)




USKUB 1915: SKOPIANS!See to her your grandfathers....






A prosperous Bulgarian village among the hills.(BRUSNIK,NEAR MONASTIR)


MACEDONIA IS HELLENISM-NOT BULGARISM


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In fact, on our plane ride from Frankfurt to Thessaloniki......

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The pilot (we were flying "Aegean Airlines") said, "We are now flying over Skopje, Macedonia".



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In order to avoid terrorist attacks

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why didn't you ask him, what is Macedonian down there ??

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????? please explain those aviation rules for me!

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You don't make any sense - AGAIN!

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Re: ????? please explain those aviation rules for me!

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bratchko, i think istor is confused again (i didn't know what he is talking about either). be easy on the little greek. be a good neighbor.

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What would be done if he said the truth: Skopje, FYROM ??

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a terrorist attack from SlavoSkopian passangeers

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VARDAR-BULGARSKI!YOUR BULGARIAN HISTORY........

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VARDAR-BULGARSKI!YOUR BULGARIAN HISTORY........
YOU, Bulgarian, in the name of the patriotism, freedom and saving your life, pay to the bearer of this invitation the sum of ...
Invitation from the central revolutionary commitee to all Bulgars in Skopje....


VMRO(BMPO) stamp in Bulgarian language..........


VMRO was first established in 1893 under the name of Bulgarian Macedono-Odrin Revolutionary Committee(BMPO).


The Bulgarian society in Skopje 1870 :


Bulgarian municipality - Prilep


Theophylacti Bulgariae archiepiscopi In omnes divi Pauli apostoli epistolas enarrationes
THEOPHYLACTUS, arcivescovo di Ochrida
http://www.comune.empoli.fi.it/biblioteca/CATALOGO/schede/sch785.html
http://www.comune.empoli.fi.it/biblioteca/CATALOGO/schede/front785.html

Theophylacti archiepiscopi Bulgariae In quator Evangelia enarrationes
THEOPHYLACTUS, arcivescovo di Ochrida
http://www.comune.empoli.fi.it/biblioteca/CATALOGO/schede/sch652.html
http://www.comune.empoli.fi.it/biblioteca/CATALOGO/schede/front652.html

Some villages have Serbian schools and some have Bulgarian schools.
"..in the towns Serbian schools can be found alongside the Bulgarian boys' and girls' elementary and grammar schools. Some villages have Serbian schools and some have Bulgarian schools. Some villagers, along with their teachers and priests, recognize the Patriarchate and come under the protection of the Serbian or Greek consul, while others recognize the Bulgarian Exarchate and place themselves under the authority of the Bulgarian trade representatives."-Misirkov Krste

MISIRKOV:"We are Bulgarian more than the Bulgarians in Bulgaria. The population of Skopje is pure Bulgarian.
"Our fathers, grandfathers, and great grandfathers have always been called Bulgarians"-Krste Misirkov

but what can we possibly do when we ourselves are Bulgarians .......
Text of Delcev's letter to Nikola Maleshevski:WE ARE BULGARIANS!
"Sofia, 01.05.1899, Kolyo, ... May the dissents and cleavages not frighten you. It is really a pity, but what can we possibly do when we ourselves are Bulgarians and all suffer from the same disease! If this disease had not existed in our forefathers who passed it on to us, we wouldn't have fallen under the ugly sceptre of the Turkish sultans..."


"We are Bulgarians and we always work and will work for the unification of the Bulgariandom."
-Dame Gruev (Director of the Bulgarian school in Stip).

" Respected representatives of the Bulgarian people, ....
Here is a excerpt from a letter written in 1861 by the people of Ohrid in protest to the arbitrariness of the Greek metropolite Meletius in which they insist on the restoration of the Ohrid Archbishopric closed back in 1767.
" Respected representatives of the Bulgarian people,
The undersigned inhabitants of Justiniana Prima or Ohrid, after seeing, on one hand, that regardless of all our hopes our common mother, the Great Church of Christ, did not pay attention to the petitions submitted to Her one after another in which we kindly beg Her to change Metropolite Meletius appointed against our will and requests, and ,on the other hand, informed that all our Bulgarian people is indignant with the same at the Great Church of Chris, considered it our inevitable duty to appoint you and recognize you, in accordance with our people, as our plenipotentiary representatives so you can petition, in the kindest fashion, the Sublime Porte to hear our our requests and deliver us from the arbitrariness of the Greek clergy by affirming the restoration of an autocephalous archbishopric of Ohridian Prima Justiniana and all Bulgaria....
April 9th, 1861
Prima Justiniana or Ohrid

There are no 'Macedonians'. There are Bulgars!
"Let me begin by correcting an almost universal fallacy. There are no 'Macedonians'. There are Bulgars. There are Roumans - the relics of the Latin-speaking provincials of Rome's Illyrian provinces, who still hold their own in the Pindus range and in the neighboring towns. There are Greeks, including more or less superficially Hellenized Roumans. There are 'Turks,' including Mohammedan Bulgarians, and some true Turkish villages in the Vardar valley representing a settlement earlier than the Ottoman conquest. There is an infusion of Skipetars or Albanians on the western and northern fringe. Finally, there is the large Spanish Jew population in Salonika. But there are no 'Macedonians'."
Sir Arthur J. Evans. English archaeologist.London Times, on September 30, 1903

STALIN:That a Macedonian consciousness has not yet developed among the population is of no account.
Otecestven Vestnik (Sofia daily), 19 June 1991
STALIN TO BULGARIAN DELEGATION
(G. Dimitrov, V. Kolarov, T. Kostov)
The Kremlin, 7 June 1946
Cultural autonomy must be granted to Pirin Macedonia within the framework of Bulgaria. Tito has shown himself more flexible than you - possibly because he lives in a multiethnic state and has had to give equal rights to the various peoples. Autonomy will be the first step towards the unification of Macedonia, but in view of the present situation there should be no hurry on this matter. Otherwise, in the eyes of the Macedonian people the whole mission of achieving Macedonian autonomy will remain with Tito and you will get the criticism. You seem to be afraid of Kimon Georgiev, you have involved yourselves too much with him and do not want to give autonomy to Pirin Macedonia. That a Macedonian consciousness has not yet developed among the population is of no account. No such consciousness existed in Byelorussia either when we proclaimed it a Soviet Republic. However, later it was shown that a Byelorussian people did in fact exist. ...

creation of a "Socialist Republic of Macedonia" with Skopje as capital is only a sad farce.
Dear Sir,
The magazine HISTORIA has just provided me with the very beautiful book that you so kindly sent me. I have first of all admired the presentation and then was struck by its contents.
Your thesis is brilliant. The Macedonians are and have always been Greeks, and the creation of a "Socialist Republic of Macedonia" with Skopje as capital is only a sad farce. I will not miss, when the opportunity arises, to pass this on.
In thanking you for having so kindly sent me your book, which has interested me even more, having myself written many works on Byzantium, I beg you to believe, dear Sir, by best feelings.
RENE GUERDAN

The referred Slavs were only "Serbian" and "Bulgarian"
The deliberately misleading use of the terms "Macedonians" and "Slavs" is exposed by two irrefutable Turkish documents. One is a population census of 1905, published by an Italian firm and the other is an election announcement of 1912 from Monastir (now Bitolj), which describes the candidates as Turks, Greeks, and Bulgarians. There was no such thing as "Macedonian" nationality during the Turkish period either. The referred Slavs were only "Serbian" and "Bulgarian"
(see Document No 10).
http://www.hri.org/Martis/contents/doc10.html

Ohrid:"Shepherd of the Bulgarians, remember the ruler Andronicos Palleologus, when sacrificing".
Shroud, XIII c.
Ochrid
Presented by the Emperor Andronicos II Palleologus (1282-1328) to the Ochrid Archbishop, inscribed with gold fibers: "Shepherd of the Bulgarians, remember the ruler Andronicos Palleologus, when sacrificing".

(National Museum of History, Sofia)




USKUB 1915: SKOPIANS!See to her your grandfathers....






A prosperous Bulgarian village among the hills.(BRUSNIK,NEAR MONASTIR)


MACEDONIA IS HELLENISM-NOT BULGARISM


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Truth need balls to get said or heard !!!

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what is Macedonian on you ??

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VARDAR-BULGARSKI!YOUR BULGARIAN HISTORY........
YOU, Bulgarian, in the name of the patriotism, freedom and saving your life, pay to the bearer of this invitation the sum of ...
Invitation from the central revolutionary commitee to all Bulgars in Skopje....


VMRO(BMPO) stamp in Bulgarian language..........


VMRO was first established in 1893 under the name of Bulgarian Macedono-Odrin Revolutionary Committee(BMPO).


The Bulgarian society in Skopje 1870 :


Bulgarian municipality - Prilep


Theophylacti Bulgariae archiepiscopi In omnes divi Pauli apostoli epistolas enarrationes
THEOPHYLACTUS, arcivescovo di Ochrida
http://www.comune.empoli.fi.it/biblioteca/CATALOGO/schede/sch785.html
http://www.comune.empoli.fi.it/biblioteca/CATALOGO/schede/front785.html

Theophylacti archiepiscopi Bulgariae In quator Evangelia enarrationes
THEOPHYLACTUS, arcivescovo di Ochrida
http://www.comune.empoli.fi.it/biblioteca/CATALOGO/schede/sch652.html
http://www.comune.empoli.fi.it/biblioteca/CATALOGO/schede/front652.html

Some villages have Serbian schools and some have Bulgarian schools.
"..in the towns Serbian schools can be found alongside the Bulgarian boys' and girls' elementary and grammar schools. Some villages have Serbian schools and some have Bulgarian schools. Some villagers, along with their teachers and priests, recognize the Patriarchate and come under the protection of the Serbian or Greek consul, while others recognize the Bulgarian Exarchate and place themselves under the authority of the Bulgarian trade representatives."-Misirkov Krste

MISIRKOV:"We are Bulgarian more than the Bulgarians in Bulgaria. The population of Skopje is pure Bulgarian.
"Our fathers, grandfathers, and great grandfathers have always been called Bulgarians"-Krste Misirkov

but what can we possibly do when we ourselves are Bulgarians .......
Text of Delcev's letter to Nikola Maleshevski:WE ARE BULGARIANS!
"Sofia, 01.05.1899, Kolyo, ... May the dissents and cleavages not frighten you. It is really a pity, but what can we possibly do when we ourselves are Bulgarians and all suffer from the same disease! If this disease had not existed in our forefathers who passed it on to us, we wouldn't have fallen under the ugly sceptre of the Turkish sultans..."


"We are Bulgarians and we always work and will work for the unification of the Bulgariandom."
-Dame Gruev (Director of the Bulgarian school in Stip).

" Respected representatives of the Bulgarian people, ....
Here is a excerpt from a letter written in 1861 by the people of Ohrid in protest to the arbitrariness of the Greek metropolite Meletius in which they insist on the restoration of the Ohrid Archbishopric closed back in 1767.
" Respected representatives of the Bulgarian people,
The undersigned inhabitants of Justiniana Prima or Ohrid, after seeing, on one hand, that regardless of all our hopes our common mother, the Great Church of Christ, did not pay attention to the petitions submitted to Her one after another in which we kindly beg Her to change Metropolite Meletius appointed against our will and requests, and ,on the other hand, informed that all our Bulgarian people is indignant with the same at the Great Church of Chris, considered it our inevitable duty to appoint you and recognize you, in accordance with our people, as our plenipotentiary representatives so you can petition, in the kindest fashion, the Sublime Porte to hear our our requests and deliver us from the arbitrariness of the Greek clergy by affirming the restoration of an autocephalous archbishopric of Ohridian Prima Justiniana and all Bulgaria....
April 9th, 1861
Prima Justiniana or Ohrid

There are no 'Macedonians'. There are Bulgars!
"Let me begin by correcting an almost universal fallacy. There are no 'Macedonians'. There are Bulgars. There are Roumans - the relics of the Latin-speaking provincials of Rome's Illyrian provinces, who still hold their own in the Pindus range and in the neighboring towns. There are Greeks, including more or less superficially Hellenized Roumans. There are 'Turks,' including Mohammedan Bulgarians, and some true Turkish villages in the Vardar valley representing a settlement earlier than the Ottoman conquest. There is an infusion of Skipetars or Albanians on the western and northern fringe. Finally, there is the large Spanish Jew population in Salonika. But there are no 'Macedonians'."
Sir Arthur J. Evans. English archaeologist.London Times, on September 30, 1903

STALIN:That a Macedonian consciousness has not yet developed among the population is of no account.
Otecestven Vestnik (Sofia daily), 19 June 1991
STALIN TO BULGARIAN DELEGATION
(G. Dimitrov, V. Kolarov, T. Kostov)
The Kremlin, 7 June 1946
Cultural autonomy must be granted to Pirin Macedonia within the framework of Bulgaria. Tito has shown himself more flexible than you - possibly because he lives in a multiethnic state and has had to give equal rights to the various peoples. Autonomy will be the first step towards the unification of Macedonia, but in view of the present situation there should be no hurry on this matter. Otherwise, in the eyes of the Macedonian people the whole mission of achieving Macedonian autonomy will remain with Tito and you will get the criticism. You seem to be afraid of Kimon Georgiev, you have involved yourselves too much with him and do not want to give autonomy to Pirin Macedonia. That a Macedonian consciousness has not yet developed among the population is of no account. No such consciousness existed in Byelorussia either when we proclaimed it a Soviet Republic. However, later it was shown that a Byelorussian people did in fact exist. ...

creation of a "Socialist Republic of Macedonia" with Skopje as capital is only a sad farce.
Dear Sir,
The magazine HISTORIA has just provided me with the very beautiful book that you so kindly sent me. I have first of all admired the presentation and then was struck by its contents.
Your thesis is brilliant. The Macedonians are and have always been Greeks, and the creation of a "Socialist Republic of Macedonia" with Skopje as capital is only a sad farce. I will not miss, when the opportunity arises, to pass this on.
In thanking you for having so kindly sent me your book, which has interested me even more, having myself written many works on Byzantium, I beg you to believe, dear Sir, by best feelings.
RENE GUERDAN

The referred Slavs were only "Serbian" and "Bulgarian"
The deliberately misleading use of the terms "Macedonians" and "Slavs" is exposed by two irrefutable Turkish documents. One is a population census of 1905, published by an Italian firm and the other is an election announcement of 1912 from Monastir (now Bitolj), which describes the candidates as Turks, Greeks, and Bulgarians. There was no such thing as "Macedonian" nationality during the Turkish period either. The referred Slavs were only "Serbian" and "Bulgarian"
(see Document No 10).
http://www.hri.org/Martis/contents/doc10.html

Ohrid:"Shepherd of the Bulgarians, remember the ruler Andronicos Palleologus, when sacrificing".
Shroud, XIII c.
Ochrid
Presented by the Emperor Andronicos II Palleologus (1282-1328) to the Ochrid Archbishop, inscribed with gold fibers: "Shepherd of the Bulgarians, remember the ruler Andronicos Palleologus, when sacrificing".

(National Museum of History, Sofia)




USKUB 1915: SKOPIANS!See to her your grandfathers....






A prosperous Bulgarian village among the hills.(BRUSNIK,NEAR MONASTIR)


MACEDONIA IS HELLENISM-NOT BULGARISM


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SO? HE WANTED TO BE POLITE, PLUS, SKOPJIE IS NOT

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LOCATED IN A SOIL THAT WAS EVER HISTORIC MACEDONIA, BUT IN DARDANIA...WE CAN BE POLITE SOMETIMES. I CAN ASSURE YOU, THE SAME PILOT WILL CALL FYROM, WITH ITS NEW NAME WHEN THIS WILL BE ADOPTED IN THE NEAR-FUTURE

PLUS, THE TRUTH IS: FORMER YUGOSLAV REPUBLIC OF MACEDONIA SOUNDS SO LONG TO SAY IT ALL, AND SOME GREEKS MAY SAY "MACEDONIA" JUST TO BE SHORT.

REAL MACEDONIA, WITH ALL ITS ANCIENT RUINS AND HELLENIC INSCRIPTIONS ARE IN GREECE ANYWAY

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Polite? I don't think so!

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It's a losing battle.

You lost!

Get over it!

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IF IT MAKES U FEEL BETTER, GO AHEAD AND POST WHATEVER SUITS YOU, BUT

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THERE WILL BE A DAY THAT YOU'LL CHANGE YOUR NAME...WANNA BET?





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VARDAR-BULGARSKI!YOUR BULGARIAN HISTORY........
YOU, Bulgarian, in the name of the patriotism, freedom and saving your life, pay to the bearer of this invitation the sum of ...
Invitation from the central revolutionary commitee to all Bulgars in Skopje....


VMRO(BMPO) stamp in Bulgarian language..........


VMRO was first established in 1893 under the name of Bulgarian Macedono-Odrin Revolutionary Committee(BMPO).


The Bulgarian society in Skopje 1870 :


Bulgarian municipality - Prilep


Theophylacti Bulgariae archiepiscopi In omnes divi Pauli apostoli epistolas enarrationes
THEOPHYLACTUS, arcivescovo di Ochrida
http://www.comune.empoli.fi.it/biblioteca/CATALOGO/schede/sch785.html
http://www.comune.empoli.fi.it/biblioteca/CATALOGO/schede/front785.html

Theophylacti archiepiscopi Bulgariae In quator Evangelia enarrationes
THEOPHYLACTUS, arcivescovo di Ochrida
http://www.comune.empoli.fi.it/biblioteca/CATALOGO/schede/sch652.html
http://www.comune.empoli.fi.it/biblioteca/CATALOGO/schede/front652.html

Some villages have Serbian schools and some have Bulgarian schools.
"..in the towns Serbian schools can be found alongside the Bulgarian boys' and girls' elementary and grammar schools. Some villages have Serbian schools and some have Bulgarian schools. Some villagers, along with their teachers and priests, recognize the Patriarchate and come under the protection of the Serbian or Greek consul, while others recognize the Bulgarian Exarchate and place themselves under the authority of the Bulgarian trade representatives."-Misirkov Krste

MISIRKOV:"We are Bulgarian more than the Bulgarians in Bulgaria. The population of Skopje is pure Bulgarian.
"Our fathers, grandfathers, and great grandfathers have always been called Bulgarians"-Krste Misirkov

but what can we possibly do when we ourselves are Bulgarians .......
Text of Delcev's letter to Nikola Maleshevski:WE ARE BULGARIANS!
"Sofia, 01.05.1899, Kolyo, ... May the dissents and cleavages not frighten you. It is really a pity, but what can we possibly do when we ourselves are Bulgarians and all suffer from the same disease! If this disease had not existed in our forefathers who passed it on to us, we wouldn't have fallen under the ugly sceptre of the Turkish sultans..."


"We are Bulgarians and we always work and will work for the unification of the Bulgariandom."
-Dame Gruev (Director of the Bulgarian school in Stip).

" Respected representatives of the Bulgarian people, ....
Here is a excerpt from a letter written in 1861 by the people of Ohrid in protest to the arbitrariness of the Greek metropolite Meletius in which they insist on the restoration of the Ohrid Archbishopric closed back in 1767.
" Respected representatives of the Bulgarian people,
The undersigned inhabitants of Justiniana Prima or Ohrid, after seeing, on one hand, that regardless of all our hopes our common mother, the Great Church of Christ, did not pay attention to the petitions submitted to Her one after another in which we kindly beg Her to change Metropolite Meletius appointed against our will and requests, and ,on the other hand, informed that all our Bulgarian people is indignant with the same at the Great Church of Chris, considered it our inevitable duty to appoint you and recognize you, in accordance with our people, as our plenipotentiary representatives so you can petition, in the kindest fashion, the Sublime Porte to hear our our requests and deliver us from the arbitrariness of the Greek clergy by affirming the restoration of an autocephalous archbishopric of Ohridian Prima Justiniana and all Bulgaria....
April 9th, 1861
Prima Justiniana or Ohrid

There are no 'Macedonians'. There are Bulgars!
"Let me begin by correcting an almost universal fallacy. There are no 'Macedonians'. There are Bulgars. There are Roumans - the relics of the Latin-speaking provincials of Rome's Illyrian provinces, who still hold their own in the Pindus range and in the neighboring towns. There are Greeks, including more or less superficially Hellenized Roumans. There are 'Turks,' including Mohammedan Bulgarians, and some true Turkish villages in the Vardar valley representing a settlement earlier than the Ottoman conquest. There is an infusion of Skipetars or Albanians on the western and northern fringe. Finally, there is the large Spanish Jew population in Salonika. But there are no 'Macedonians'."
Sir Arthur J. Evans. English archaeologist.London Times, on September 30, 1903

STALIN:That a Macedonian consciousness has not yet developed among the population is of no account.
Otecestven Vestnik (Sofia daily), 19 June 1991
STALIN TO BULGARIAN DELEGATION
(G. Dimitrov, V. Kolarov, T. Kostov)
The Kremlin, 7 June 1946
Cultural autonomy must be granted to Pirin Macedonia within the framework of Bulgaria. Tito has shown himself more flexible than you - possibly because he lives in a multiethnic state and has had to give equal rights to the various peoples. Autonomy will be the first step towards the unification of Macedonia, but in view of the present situation there should be no hurry on this matter. Otherwise, in the eyes of the Macedonian people the whole mission of achieving Macedonian autonomy will remain with Tito and you will get the criticism. You seem to be afraid of Kimon Georgiev, you have involved yourselves too much with him and do not want to give autonomy to Pirin Macedonia. That a Macedonian consciousness has not yet developed among the population is of no account. No such consciousness existed in Byelorussia either when we proclaimed it a Soviet Republic. However, later it was shown that a Byelorussian people did in fact exist. ...

creation of a "Socialist Republic of Macedonia" with Skopje as capital is only a sad farce.
Dear Sir,
The magazine HISTORIA has just provided me with the very beautiful book that you so kindly sent me. I have first of all admired the presentation and then was struck by its contents.
Your thesis is brilliant. The Macedonians are and have always been Greeks, and the creation of a "Socialist Republic of Macedonia" with Skopje as capital is only a sad farce. I will not miss, when the opportunity arises, to pass this on.
In thanking you for having so kindly sent me your book, which has interested me even more, having myself written many works on Byzantium, I beg you to believe, dear Sir, by best feelings.
RENE GUERDAN

The referred Slavs were only "Serbian" and "Bulgarian"
The deliberately misleading use of the terms "Macedonians" and "Slavs" is exposed by two irrefutable Turkish documents. One is a population census of 1905, published by an Italian firm and the other is an election announcement of 1912 from Monastir (now Bitolj), which describes the candidates as Turks, Greeks, and Bulgarians. There was no such thing as "Macedonian" nationality during the Turkish period either. The referred Slavs were only "Serbian" and "Bulgarian"
(see Document No 10).
http://www.hri.org/Martis/contents/doc10.html

Ohrid:"Shepherd of the Bulgarians, remember the ruler Andronicos Palleologus, when sacrificing".
Shroud, XIII c.
Ochrid
Presented by the Emperor Andronicos II Palleologus (1282-1328) to the Ochrid Archbishop, inscribed with gold fibers: "Shepherd of the Bulgarians, remember the ruler Andronicos Palleologus, when sacrificing".

(National Museum of History, Sofia)




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VARDAR-BULGARSKI!YOUR BULGARIAN HISTORY........
YOU, Bulgarian, in the name of the patriotism, freedom and saving your life, pay to the bearer of this invitation the sum of ...
Invitation from the central revolutionary commitee to all Bulgars in Skopje....


VMRO(BMPO) stamp in Bulgarian language..........


VMRO was first established in 1893 under the name of Bulgarian Macedono-Odrin Revolutionary Committee(BMPO).


The Bulgarian society in Skopje 1870 :


Bulgarian municipality - Prilep


Theophylacti Bulgariae archiepiscopi In omnes divi Pauli apostoli epistolas enarrationes
THEOPHYLACTUS, arcivescovo di Ochrida
http://www.comune.empoli.fi.it/biblioteca/CATALOGO/schede/sch785.html
http://www.comune.empoli.fi.it/biblioteca/CATALOGO/schede/front785.html

Theophylacti archiepiscopi Bulgariae In quator Evangelia enarrationes
THEOPHYLACTUS, arcivescovo di Ochrida
http://www.comune.empoli.fi.it/biblioteca/CATALOGO/schede/sch652.html
http://www.comune.empoli.fi.it/biblioteca/CATALOGO/schede/front652.html

Some villages have Serbian schools and some have Bulgarian schools.
"..in the towns Serbian schools can be found alongside the Bulgarian boys' and girls' elementary and grammar schools. Some villages have Serbian schools and some have Bulgarian schools. Some villagers, along with their teachers and priests, recognize the Patriarchate and come under the protection of the Serbian or Greek consul, while others recognize the Bulgarian Exarchate and place themselves under the authority of the Bulgarian trade representatives."-Misirkov Krste

MISIRKOV:"We are Bulgarian more than the Bulgarians in Bulgaria. The population of Skopje is pure Bulgarian.
"Our fathers, grandfathers, and great grandfathers have always been called Bulgarians"-Krste Misirkov

but what can we possibly do when we ourselves are Bulgarians .......
Text of Delcev's letter to Nikola Maleshevski:WE ARE BULGARIANS!
"Sofia, 01.05.1899, Kolyo, ... May the dissents and cleavages not frighten you. It is really a pity, but what can we possibly do when we ourselves are Bulgarians and all suffer from the same disease! If this disease had not existed in our forefathers who passed it on to us, we wouldn't have fallen under the ugly sceptre of the Turkish sultans..."


"We are Bulgarians and we always work and will work for the unification of the Bulgariandom."
-Dame Gruev (Director of the Bulgarian school in Stip).

" Respected representatives of the Bulgarian people, ....
Here is a excerpt from a letter written in 1861 by the people of Ohrid in protest to the arbitrariness of the Greek metropolite Meletius in which they insist on the restoration of the Ohrid Archbishopric closed back in 1767.
" Respected representatives of the Bulgarian people,
The undersigned inhabitants of Justiniana Prima or Ohrid, after seeing, on one hand, that regardless of all our hopes our common mother, the Great Church of Christ, did not pay attention to the petitions submitted to Her one after another in which we kindly beg Her to change Metropolite Meletius appointed against our will and requests, and ,on the other hand, informed that all our Bulgarian people is indignant with the same at the Great Church of Chris, considered it our inevitable duty to appoint you and recognize you, in accordance with our people, as our plenipotentiary representatives so you can petition, in the kindest fashion, the Sublime Porte to hear our our requests and deliver us from the arbitrariness of the Greek clergy by affirming the restoration of an autocephalous archbishopric of Ohridian Prima Justiniana and all Bulgaria....
April 9th, 1861
Prima Justiniana or Ohrid

There are no 'Macedonians'. There are Bulgars!
"Let me begin by correcting an almost universal fallacy. There are no 'Macedonians'. There are Bulgars. There are Roumans - the relics of the Latin-speaking provincials of Rome's Illyrian provinces, who still hold their own in the Pindus range and in the neighboring towns. There are Greeks, including more or less superficially Hellenized Roumans. There are 'Turks,' including Mohammedan Bulgarians, and some true Turkish villages in the Vardar valley representing a settlement earlier than the Ottoman conquest. There is an infusion of Skipetars or Albanians on the western and northern fringe. Finally, there is the large Spanish Jew population in Salonika. But there are no 'Macedonians'."
Sir Arthur J. Evans. English archaeologist.London Times, on September 30, 1903

STALIN:That a Macedonian consciousness has not yet developed among the population is of no account.
Otecestven Vestnik (Sofia daily), 19 June 1991
STALIN TO BULGARIAN DELEGATION
(G. Dimitrov, V. Kolarov, T. Kostov)
The Kremlin, 7 June 1946
Cultural autonomy must be granted to Pirin Macedonia within the framework of Bulgaria. Tito has shown himself more flexible than you - possibly because he lives in a multiethnic state and has had to give equal rights to the various peoples. Autonomy will be the first step towards the unification of Macedonia, but in view of the present situation there should be no hurry on this matter. Otherwise, in the eyes of the Macedonian people the whole mission of achieving Macedonian autonomy will remain with Tito and you will get the criticism. You seem to be afraid of Kimon Georgiev, you have involved yourselves too much with him and do not want to give autonomy to Pirin Macedonia. That a Macedonian consciousness has not yet developed among the population is of no account. No such consciousness existed in Byelorussia either when we proclaimed it a Soviet Republic. However, later it was shown that a Byelorussian people did in fact exist. ...

creation of a "Socialist Republic of Macedonia" with Skopje as capital is only a sad farce.
Dear Sir,
The magazine HISTORIA has just provided me with the very beautiful book that you so kindly sent me. I have first of all admired the presentation and then was struck by its contents.
Your thesis is brilliant. The Macedonians are and have always been Greeks, and the creation of a "Socialist Republic of Macedonia" with Skopje as capital is only a sad farce. I will not miss, when the opportunity arises, to pass this on.
In thanking you for having so kindly sent me your book, which has interested me even more, having myself written many works on Byzantium, I beg you to believe, dear Sir, by best feelings.
RENE GUERDAN

The referred Slavs were only "Serbian" and "Bulgarian"
The deliberately misleading use of the terms "Macedonians" and "Slavs" is exposed by two irrefutable Turkish documents. One is a population census of 1905, published by an Italian firm and the other is an election announcement of 1912 from Monastir (now Bitolj), which describes the candidates as Turks, Greeks, and Bulgarians. There was no such thing as "Macedonian" nationality during the Turkish period either. The referred Slavs were only "Serbian" and "Bulgarian"
(see Document No 10).
http://www.hri.org/Martis/contents/doc10.html

Ohrid:"Shepherd of the Bulgarians, remember the ruler Andronicos Palleologus, when sacrificing".
Shroud, XIII c.
Ochrid
Presented by the Emperor Andronicos II Palleologus (1282-1328) to the Ochrid Archbishop, inscribed with gold fibers: "Shepherd of the Bulgarians, remember the ruler Andronicos Palleologus, when sacrificing".

(National Museum of History, Sofia)




USKUB 1915: SKOPIANS!See to her your grandfathers....






A prosperous Bulgarian village among the hills.(BRUSNIK,NEAR MONASTIR)


MACEDONIA IS HELLENISM-NOT BULGARISM


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VARDAR-BULGARSKI!YOUR BULGARIAN HISTORY........
YOU, Bulgarian, in the name of the patriotism, freedom and saving your life, pay to the bearer of this invitation the sum of ...
Invitation from the central revolutionary commitee to all Bulgars in Skopje....


VMRO(BMPO) stamp in Bulgarian language..........


VMRO was first established in 1893 under the name of Bulgarian Macedono-Odrin Revolutionary Committee(BMPO).


The Bulgarian society in Skopje 1870 :


Bulgarian municipality - Prilep


Theophylacti Bulgariae archiepiscopi In omnes divi Pauli apostoli epistolas enarrationes
THEOPHYLACTUS, arcivescovo di Ochrida
http://www.comune.empoli.fi.it/biblioteca/CATALOGO/schede/sch785.html
http://www.comune.empoli.fi.it/biblioteca/CATALOGO/schede/front785.html

Theophylacti archiepiscopi Bulgariae In quator Evangelia enarrationes
THEOPHYLACTUS, arcivescovo di Ochrida
http://www.comune.empoli.fi.it/biblioteca/CATALOGO/schede/sch652.html
http://www.comune.empoli.fi.it/biblioteca/CATALOGO/schede/front652.html

Some villages have Serbian schools and some have Bulgarian schools.
"..in the towns Serbian schools can be found alongside the Bulgarian boys' and girls' elementary and grammar schools. Some villages have Serbian schools and some have Bulgarian schools. Some villagers, along with their teachers and priests, recognize the Patriarchate and come under the protection of the Serbian or Greek consul, while others recognize the Bulgarian Exarchate and place themselves under the authority of the Bulgarian trade representatives."-Misirkov Krste

MISIRKOV:"We are Bulgarian more than the Bulgarians in Bulgaria. The population of Skopje is pure Bulgarian.
"Our fathers, grandfathers, and great grandfathers have always been called Bulgarians"-Krste Misirkov

but what can we possibly do when we ourselves are Bulgarians .......
Text of Delcev's letter to Nikola Maleshevski:WE ARE BULGARIANS!
"Sofia, 01.05.1899, Kolyo, ... May the dissents and cleavages not frighten you. It is really a pity, but what can we possibly do when we ourselves are Bulgarians and all suffer from the same disease! If this disease had not existed in our forefathers who passed it on to us, we wouldn't have fallen under the ugly sceptre of the Turkish sultans..."


"We are Bulgarians and we always work and will work for the unification of the Bulgariandom."
-Dame Gruev (Director of the Bulgarian school in Stip).

" Respected representatives of the Bulgarian people, ....
Here is a excerpt from a letter written in 1861 by the people of Ohrid in protest to the arbitrariness of the Greek metropolite Meletius in which they insist on the restoration of the Ohrid Archbishopric closed back in 1767.
" Respected representatives of the Bulgarian people,
The undersigned inhabitants of Justiniana Prima or Ohrid, after seeing, on one hand, that regardless of all our hopes our common mother, the Great Church of Christ, did not pay attention to the petitions submitted to Her one after another in which we kindly beg Her to change Metropolite Meletius appointed against our will and requests, and ,on the other hand, informed that all our Bulgarian people is indignant with the same at the Great Church of Chris, considered it our inevitable duty to appoint you and recognize you, in accordance with our people, as our plenipotentiary representatives so you can petition, in the kindest fashion, the Sublime Porte to hear our our requests and deliver us from the arbitrariness of the Greek clergy by affirming the restoration of an autocephalous archbishopric of Ohridian Prima Justiniana and all Bulgaria....
April 9th, 1861
Prima Justiniana or Ohrid

There are no 'Macedonians'. There are Bulgars!
"Let me begin by correcting an almost universal fallacy. There are no 'Macedonians'. There are Bulgars. There are Roumans - the relics of the Latin-speaking provincials of Rome's Illyrian provinces, who still hold their own in the Pindus range and in the neighboring towns. There are Greeks, including more or less superficially Hellenized Roumans. There are 'Turks,' including Mohammedan Bulgarians, and some true Turkish villages in the Vardar valley representing a settlement earlier than the Ottoman conquest. There is an infusion of Skipetars or Albanians on the western and northern fringe. Finally, there is the large Spanish Jew population in Salonika. But there are no 'Macedonians'."
Sir Arthur J. Evans. English archaeologist.London Times, on September 30, 1903

STALIN:That a Macedonian consciousness has not yet developed among the population is of no account.
Otecestven Vestnik (Sofia daily), 19 June 1991
STALIN TO BULGARIAN DELEGATION
(G. Dimitrov, V. Kolarov, T. Kostov)
The Kremlin, 7 June 1946
Cultural autonomy must be granted to Pirin Macedonia within the framework of Bulgaria. Tito has shown himself more flexible than you - possibly because he lives in a multiethnic state and has had to give equal rights to the various peoples. Autonomy will be the first step towards the unification of Macedonia, but in view of the present situation there should be no hurry on this matter. Otherwise, in the eyes of the Macedonian people the whole mission of achieving Macedonian autonomy will remain with Tito and you will get the criticism. You seem to be afraid of Kimon Georgiev, you have involved yourselves too much with him and do not want to give autonomy to Pirin Macedonia. That a Macedonian consciousness has not yet developed among the population is of no account. No such consciousness existed in Byelorussia either when we proclaimed it a Soviet Republic. However, later it was shown that a Byelorussian people did in fact exist. ...

creation of a "Socialist Republic of Macedonia" with Skopje as capital is only a sad farce.
Dear Sir,
The magazine HISTORIA has just provided me with the very beautiful book that you so kindly sent me. I have first of all admired the presentation and then was struck by its contents.
Your thesis is brilliant. The Macedonians are and have always been Greeks, and the creation of a "Socialist Republic of Macedonia" with Skopje as capital is only a sad farce. I will not miss, when the opportunity arises, to pass this on.
In thanking you for having so kindly sent me your book, which has interested me even more, having myself written many works on Byzantium, I beg you to believe, dear Sir, by best feelings.
RENE GUERDAN

The referred Slavs were only "Serbian" and "Bulgarian"
The deliberately misleading use of the terms "Macedonians" and "Slavs" is exposed by two irrefutable Turkish documents. One is a population census of 1905, published by an Italian firm and the other is an election announcement of 1912 from Monastir (now Bitolj), which describes the candidates as Turks, Greeks, and Bulgarians. There was no such thing as "Macedonian" nationality during the Turkish period either. The referred Slavs were only "Serbian" and "Bulgarian"
(see Document No 10).
http://www.hri.org/Martis/contents/doc10.html

Ohrid:"Shepherd of the Bulgarians, remember the ruler Andronicos Palleologus, when sacrificing".
Shroud, XIII c.
Ochrid
Presented by the Emperor Andronicos II Palleologus (1282-1328) to the Ochrid Archbishop, inscribed with gold fibers: "Shepherd of the Bulgarians, remember the ruler Andronicos Palleologus, when sacrificing".

(National Museum of History, Sofia)




USKUB 1915: SKOPIANS!See to her your grandfathers....






A prosperous Bulgarian village among the hills.(BRUSNIK,NEAR MONASTIR)


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So case is closed huh??Then how comes U don't relax???Cause U

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know it very well that nothing can be true without the Hellenic part agreeing. You know very well that you have to adjust to history regarding the name.ZZimbambwe and Patagonia might find easier to say matsedonjia but as easy as that they will call the statlet Vardaria,Pelagonia or Gyftoskopjania. Rashbirash?????

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Unfortunately, most countries are corrupt

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it unfortunate (yes, even tragic) that evil permeates our world. all an individual can do is keep his grace under pressure. corruption is not limited to macedonia (oh, that it were only there) but is everywhere. one good way to weaken corruption is to avoid those individuals and institutions thyat pressure you as much as possible. that way there is no confrontation as you are simply walking away from them where possible (this includes withhiolding payments as long as possible and other tactics). if you find yourself cornered and cannot escape the corruption, then that's when you stand on your feet and face the corruption head on. if you have support amongst your neighbors, the corruption will eventually whither away. it's not this easy of course, but that is the general philosophy i would adopt.

good luck all. we're all friends when facing this common enemy.

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VARDAR-BULGARSKI!YOUR BULGARIAN HISTORY........
YOU, Bulgarian, in the name of the patriotism, freedom and saving your life, pay to the bearer of this invitation the sum of ...
Invitation from the central revolutionary commitee to all Bulgars in Skopje....


VMRO(BMPO) stamp in Bulgarian language..........


VMRO was first established in 1893 under the name of Bulgarian Macedono-Odrin Revolutionary Committee(BMPO).


The Bulgarian society in Skopje 1870 :


Bulgarian municipality - Prilep


Theophylacti Bulgariae archiepiscopi In omnes divi Pauli apostoli epistolas enarrationes
THEOPHYLACTUS, arcivescovo di Ochrida
http://www.comune.empoli.fi.it/biblioteca/CATALOGO/schede/sch785.html
http://www.comune.empoli.fi.it/biblioteca/CATALOGO/schede/front785.html

Theophylacti archiepiscopi Bulgariae In quator Evangelia enarrationes
THEOPHYLACTUS, arcivescovo di Ochrida
http://www.comune.empoli.fi.it/biblioteca/CATALOGO/schede/sch652.html
http://www.comune.empoli.fi.it/biblioteca/CATALOGO/schede/front652.html

Some villages have Serbian schools and some have Bulgarian schools.
"..in the towns Serbian schools can be found alongside the Bulgarian boys' and girls' elementary and grammar schools. Some villages have Serbian schools and some have Bulgarian schools. Some villagers, along with their teachers and priests, recognize the Patriarchate and come under the protection of the Serbian or Greek consul, while others recognize the Bulgarian Exarchate and place themselves under the authority of the Bulgarian trade representatives."-Misirkov Krste

MISIRKOV:"We are Bulgarian more than the Bulgarians in Bulgaria. The population of Skopje is pure Bulgarian.
"Our fathers, grandfathers, and great grandfathers have always been called Bulgarians"-Krste Misirkov

but what can we possibly do when we ourselves are Bulgarians .......
Text of Delcev's letter to Nikola Maleshevski:WE ARE BULGARIANS!
"Sofia, 01.05.1899, Kolyo, ... May the dissents and cleavages not frighten you. It is really a pity, but what can we possibly do when we ourselves are Bulgarians and all suffer from the same disease! If this disease had not existed in our forefathers who passed it on to us, we wouldn't have fallen under the ugly sceptre of the Turkish sultans..."


"We are Bulgarians and we always work and will work for the unification of the Bulgariandom."
-Dame Gruev (Director of the Bulgarian school in Stip).

" Respected representatives of the Bulgarian people, ....
Here is a excerpt from a letter written in 1861 by the people of Ohrid in protest to the arbitrariness of the Greek metropolite Meletius in which they insist on the restoration of the Ohrid Archbishopric closed back in 1767.
" Respected representatives of the Bulgarian people,
The undersigned inhabitants of Justiniana Prima or Ohrid, after seeing, on one hand, that regardless of all our hopes our common mother, the Great Church of Christ, did not pay attention to the petitions submitted to Her one after another in which we kindly beg Her to change Metropolite Meletius appointed against our will and requests, and ,on the other hand, informed that all our Bulgarian people is indignant with the same at the Great Church of Chris, considered it our inevitable duty to appoint you and recognize you, in accordance with our people, as our plenipotentiary representatives so you can petition, in the kindest fashion, the Sublime Porte to hear our our requests and deliver us from the arbitrariness of the Greek clergy by affirming the restoration of an autocephalous archbishopric of Ohridian Prima Justiniana and all Bulgaria....
April 9th, 1861
Prima Justiniana or Ohrid

There are no 'Macedonians'. There are Bulgars!
"Let me begin by correcting an almost universal fallacy. There are no 'Macedonians'. There are Bulgars. There are Roumans - the relics of the Latin-speaking provincials of Rome's Illyrian provinces, who still hold their own in the Pindus range and in the neighboring towns. There are Greeks, including more or less superficially Hellenized Roumans. There are 'Turks,' including Mohammedan Bulgarians, and some true Turkish villages in the Vardar valley representing a settlement earlier than the Ottoman conquest. There is an infusion of Skipetars or Albanians on the western and northern fringe. Finally, there is the large Spanish Jew population in Salonika. But there are no 'Macedonians'."
Sir Arthur J. Evans. English archaeologist.London Times, on September 30, 1903

STALIN:That a Macedonian consciousness has not yet developed among the population is of no account.
Otecestven Vestnik (Sofia daily), 19 June 1991
STALIN TO BULGARIAN DELEGATION
(G. Dimitrov, V. Kolarov, T. Kostov)
The Kremlin, 7 June 1946
Cultural autonomy must be granted to Pirin Macedonia within the framework of Bulgaria. Tito has shown himself more flexible than you - possibly because he lives in a multiethnic state and has had to give equal rights to the various peoples. Autonomy will be the first step towards the unification of Macedonia, but in view of the present situation there should be no hurry on this matter. Otherwise, in the eyes of the Macedonian people the whole mission of achieving Macedonian autonomy will remain with Tito and you will get the criticism. You seem to be afraid of Kimon Georgiev, you have involved yourselves too much with him and do not want to give autonomy to Pirin Macedonia. That a Macedonian consciousness has not yet developed among the population is of no account. No such consciousness existed in Byelorussia either when we proclaimed it a Soviet Republic. However, later it was shown that a Byelorussian people did in fact exist. ...

creation of a "Socialist Republic of Macedonia" with Skopje as capital is only a sad farce.
Dear Sir,
The magazine HISTORIA has just provided me with the very beautiful book that you so kindly sent me. I have first of all admired the presentation and then was struck by its contents.
Your thesis is brilliant. The Macedonians are and have always been Greeks, and the creation of a "Socialist Republic of Macedonia" with Skopje as capital is only a sad farce. I will not miss, when the opportunity arises, to pass this on.
In thanking you for having so kindly sent me your book, which has interested me even more, having myself written many works on Byzantium, I beg you to believe, dear Sir, by best feelings.
RENE GUERDAN

The referred Slavs were only "Serbian" and "Bulgarian"
The deliberately misleading use of the terms "Macedonians" and "Slavs" is exposed by two irrefutable Turkish documents. One is a population census of 1905, published by an Italian firm and the other is an election announcement of 1912 from Monastir (now Bitolj), which describes the candidates as Turks, Greeks, and Bulgarians. There was no such thing as "Macedonian" nationality during the Turkish period either. The referred Slavs were only "Serbian" and "Bulgarian"
(see Document No 10).
http://www.hri.org/Martis/contents/doc10.html

Ohrid:"Shepherd of the Bulgarians, remember the ruler Andronicos Palleologus, when sacrificing".
Shroud, XIII c.
Ochrid
Presented by the Emperor Andronicos II Palleologus (1282-1328) to the Ochrid Archbishop, inscribed with gold fibers: "Shepherd of the Bulgarians, remember the ruler Andronicos Palleologus, when sacrificing".

(National Museum of History, Sofia)




USKUB 1915: SKOPIANS!See to her your grandfathers....






A prosperous Bulgarian village among the hills.(BRUSNIK,NEAR MONASTIR)


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Macedonia with a great start into EURO 2008 qualifiers!
Goce Sedloski's goal secures first 3 points in Group E


17.08.2006 by Igor Krstic

Macedonian football seems to be on a verge of a historic breakthrough. Although the Macedonian champions Rabotnicki have little chances to advance into the Champions League final stages, the national team with their new head coach Srecko Katanec, showed the improving quality of Macedonian football in the very first match of the upcomming 308 EURO 2008 qualifiying matches yesterday evening in Talinn.




High technical level
Goce Sedloski's goal in the 73rd minute was the match winner for the guests, who secured their first 3 points, which might lead to a surprise run in EURO qualifying Group E, alongside favourites Croatia, England and Russia. All three favored teams have new coaches, with Russia's Guus Hiddink as most prominent of the trio. But Macedonia showed yesterday, that they might keep up with the strong sides in Group E. Katanec' team played on a high technical level. The short, precise and quick passing game, which the Macedonians displayed in Talinn, was all in all quite impressive and a clear sign for the new "Katanec-style". So it was no surprise that the good Macedonian technicians controlled the game almost throughout the entire match against a rather weak Estonian side, despite playing on away ground.

Next game against mighty England
The Macedonians had two chances in the first half, when Ilce Naumoski had a headed goal disallowed for offside in the 33rd minute, then when Igor Jancevski tested Poom after a one-two between Goran Pandev and Naumoski. In the second half the Macedonians continued to dominate the match with their sophisticated short pass game. Goran Maznov had two good chances, before match winner Sedloski scored the decisive goial with a close-range shot that wrong-footed goalkeeper Mart Poom after the Estonia defence had been unable to clear Vlade Lazarevski's dangerous right-wing cross. A truly great start for Katanec' selection. The next game will be a tough one though: Macedonia will face a re-structured England team on 6th September in Skopje.

STATS:

Goals:
0:1 Goce Sedloski (73'), Macedonia

Yellow cards:
13' Igor Mitreski (Macedonia)
21' Sergei Terehhov (Estonia)
56' Goce Sedloski (Macedonia)

Line Ups:
Estonia
Mart Poom, Enar Jδδger, Andrei Stepanov, Raio Piiroja, Dmitri Kruglov, Aleksandr Dmitrijev, Sergei Terehhov, Ragnar Klavan, Joel Lindpere, Andrei Sidorenkov (67' Ingemar Teever), Kristen Viikmδe (92' Alo Bδrengrub)

Coach: Jelle Goes

Macedonia
Jane Nikolovski, Vlade Lazarevski, Robert Petrov (87' Aleksandar Vasoski), Goce Sedloski, Igor Mitreski, Nikolce Noveski, Velice Sumulikoski, Igor Jancevski, Goran Pandev (82' Darko Tasevski), Ilco Naumoski (72' Aco Stojkov), Goran Maznov

Coach: Srecko Katanec
COMMENTSsanchez
Bravo for Macedonia!! But I wonder what kind of formation did they played? I see 3 attackers in the first eleven and 5,5 defenders, did Katanec played like this with Slovenia also?

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VARDAR-BULGARSKI!YOUR BULGARIAN HISTORY........
YOU, Bulgarian, in the name of the patriotism, freedom and saving your life, pay to the bearer of this invitation the sum of ...
Invitation from the central revolutionary commitee to all Bulgars in Skopje....


VMRO(BMPO) stamp in Bulgarian language..........


VMRO was first established in 1893 under the name of Bulgarian Macedono-Odrin Revolutionary Committee(BMPO).


The Bulgarian society in Skopje 1870 :


Bulgarian municipality - Prilep


Theophylacti Bulgariae archiepiscopi In omnes divi Pauli apostoli epistolas enarrationes
THEOPHYLACTUS, arcivescovo di Ochrida
http://www.comune.empoli.fi.it/biblioteca/CATALOGO/schede/sch785.html
http://www.comune.empoli.fi.it/biblioteca/CATALOGO/schede/front785.html

Theophylacti archiepiscopi Bulgariae In quator Evangelia enarrationes
THEOPHYLACTUS, arcivescovo di Ochrida
http://www.comune.empoli.fi.it/biblioteca/CATALOGO/schede/sch652.html
http://www.comune.empoli.fi.it/biblioteca/CATALOGO/schede/front652.html

Some villages have Serbian schools and some have Bulgarian schools.
"..in the towns Serbian schools can be found alongside the Bulgarian boys' and girls' elementary and grammar schools. Some villages have Serbian schools and some have Bulgarian schools. Some villagers, along with their teachers and priests, recognize the Patriarchate and come under the protection of the Serbian or Greek consul, while others recognize the Bulgarian Exarchate and place themselves under the authority of the Bulgarian trade representatives."-Misirkov Krste

MISIRKOV:"We are Bulgarian more than the Bulgarians in Bulgaria. The population of Skopje is pure Bulgarian.
"Our fathers, grandfathers, and great grandfathers have always been called Bulgarians"-Krste Misirkov

but what can we possibly do when we ourselves are Bulgarians .......
Text of Delcev's letter to Nikola Maleshevski:WE ARE BULGARIANS!
"Sofia, 01.05.1899, Kolyo, ... May the dissents and cleavages not frighten you. It is really a pity, but what can we possibly do when we ourselves are Bulgarians and all suffer from the same disease! If this disease had not existed in our forefathers who passed it on to us, we wouldn't have fallen under the ugly sceptre of the Turkish sultans..."


"We are Bulgarians and we always work and will work for the unification of the Bulgariandom."
-Dame Gruev (Director of the Bulgarian school in Stip).

" Respected representatives of the Bulgarian people, ....
Here is a excerpt from a letter written in 1861 by the people of Ohrid in protest to the arbitrariness of the Greek metropolite Meletius in which they insist on the restoration of the Ohrid Archbishopric closed back in 1767.
" Respected representatives of the Bulgarian people,
The undersigned inhabitants of Justiniana Prima or Ohrid, after seeing, on one hand, that regardless of all our hopes our common mother, the Great Church of Christ, did not pay attention to the petitions submitted to Her one after another in which we kindly beg Her to change Metropolite Meletius appointed against our will and requests, and ,on the other hand, informed that all our Bulgarian people is indignant with the same at the Great Church of Chris, considered it our inevitable duty to appoint you and recognize you, in accordance with our people, as our plenipotentiary representatives so you can petition, in the kindest fashion, the Sublime Porte to hear our our requests and deliver us from the arbitrariness of the Greek clergy by affirming the restoration of an autocephalous archbishopric of Ohridian Prima Justiniana and all Bulgaria....
April 9th, 1861
Prima Justiniana or Ohrid

There are no 'Macedonians'. There are Bulgars!
"Let me begin by correcting an almost universal fallacy. There are no 'Macedonians'. There are Bulgars. There are Roumans - the relics of the Latin-speaking provincials of Rome's Illyrian provinces, who still hold their own in the Pindus range and in the neighboring towns. There are Greeks, including more or less superficially Hellenized Roumans. There are 'Turks,' including Mohammedan Bulgarians, and some true Turkish villages in the Vardar valley representing a settlement earlier than the Ottoman conquest. There is an infusion of Skipetars or Albanians on the western and northern fringe. Finally, there is the large Spanish Jew population in Salonika. But there are no 'Macedonians'."
Sir Arthur J. Evans. English archaeologist.London Times, on September 30, 1903

STALIN:That a Macedonian consciousness has not yet developed among the population is of no account.
Otecestven Vestnik (Sofia daily), 19 June 1991
STALIN TO BULGARIAN DELEGATION
(G. Dimitrov, V. Kolarov, T. Kostov)
The Kremlin, 7 June 1946
Cultural autonomy must be granted to Pirin Macedonia within the framework of Bulgaria. Tito has shown himself more flexible than you - possibly because he lives in a multiethnic state and has had to give equal rights to the various peoples. Autonomy will be the first step towards the unification of Macedonia, but in view of the present situation there should be no hurry on this matter. Otherwise, in the eyes of the Macedonian people the whole mission of achieving Macedonian autonomy will remain with Tito and you will get the criticism. You seem to be afraid of Kimon Georgiev, you have involved yourselves too much with him and do not want to give autonomy to Pirin Macedonia. That a Macedonian consciousness has not yet developed among the population is of no account. No such consciousness existed in Byelorussia either when we proclaimed it a Soviet Republic. However, later it was shown that a Byelorussian people did in fact exist. ...

creation of a "Socialist Republic of Macedonia" with Skopje as capital is only a sad farce.
Dear Sir,
The magazine HISTORIA has just provided me with the very beautiful book that you so kindly sent me. I have first of all admired the presentation and then was struck by its contents.
Your thesis is brilliant. The Macedonians are and have always been Greeks, and the creation of a "Socialist Republic of Macedonia" with Skopje as capital is only a sad farce. I will not miss, when the opportunity arises, to pass this on.
In thanking you for having so kindly sent me your book, which has interested me even more, having myself written many works on Byzantium, I beg you to believe, dear Sir, by best feelings.
RENE GUERDAN

The referred Slavs were only "Serbian" and "Bulgarian"
The deliberately misleading use of the terms "Macedonians" and "Slavs" is exposed by two irrefutable Turkish documents. One is a population census of 1905, published by an Italian firm and the other is an election announcement of 1912 from Monastir (now Bitolj), which describes the candidates as Turks, Greeks, and Bulgarians. There was no such thing as "Macedonian" nationality during the Turkish period either. The referred Slavs were only "Serbian" and "Bulgarian"
(see Document No 10).
http://www.hri.org/Martis/contents/doc10.html

Ohrid:"Shepherd of the Bulgarians, remember the ruler Andronicos Palleologus, when sacrificing".
Shroud, XIII c.
Ochrid
Presented by the Emperor Andronicos II Palleologus (1282-1328) to the Ochrid Archbishop, inscribed with gold fibers: "Shepherd of the Bulgarians, remember the ruler Andronicos Palleologus, when sacrificing".

(National Museum of History, Sofia)




USKUB 1915: SKOPIANS!See to her your grandfathers....






A prosperous Bulgarian village among the hills.(BRUSNIK,NEAR MONASTIR)


MACEDONIA IS HELLENISM-NOT BULGARISM


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Come on, you are insignificant in any way. A little sh*thole in the Balkans.

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Most people are not even aware of your existence, you megalomaniac.

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But a WINNING ****hole

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we win in soccer, you lost big. but here's another way you CONTINUE TO LOSE:

http://news.google.com/news?sourceid=navclient&ie=UTF-8&rls=GWYA,GWYA:2005-31,GWYA:en&q=macedonia&sa=N&tab=wn


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Have a nice day my poor Losers Greek friends

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Your side has even conceded defeat! some more progressive greeks realize they're wasting their energy on the name issue since the rest of the world, for various reasons, refers to us simply as Macedonia. you can fight us all you want, but in the end, the WHOLE WORLD will end up calling us Macedonia, and the general public, unconcerned or uninformed of the issue, will simply accept it as such.

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I CAN ASSURE YOU BULGARIAN MOTHERFVCKER!ON EVERY OFFICIAL OCASSION YOU WILL BE NAMED

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Exactly...

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"the general public, unconcerned or uninformed of the issue, will simply accept it as such."


Ok, the man of the street know your sh*thole as "Macedonia". As you say, he is uninformed and, above all, unconcerned (hence the recognition by many countries) They simply don't care. Those who know, the educated people, not only in the international community but also inside the FYROM know that your kinds who are culturally 100 % Slavic (language, names, toponyms)have very little to do with the ancients Macedonians who were GREEKS. Remember, students are taught that Macedonians were Greeks.


DR. R. MALCOLM ERRINGTON


Professor oa ancient history at the university of Marburg, Germany


GEORGE CAWKWELL


Fellow and Praelector in Ancient History of University College, Oxford

J.R. HAMILTON




HERMANN BENGTSON




THOMAS MARTIN




DR PIERRE CABANES


Professor at the University of Paris X Nanterre and University of Clermont-Ferrand, France



ROBERT LANE FOX


Professor of ancient history at the Oxford University


DR ROBERT MORKOT


Professor of history at the University College, London, Warwick University, England and Birkbeck College, London


NICHOLAS HAMMOND


Professor of history at the Clare College, Cambridge, and at Clifton College, Bristol


RICHARD STONEMANN




ULRICH WILCKEN






George Cawkwell is a Fellow and Praelector in Ancient History of University College, Oxford. He has specialized in the history of the fourth century B.C.

"The Macedonians were Greeks. Their language was Greek, to judge by their personal names and by the names of months of the calendar; Macedonian ambassadors could appear before the Athenian assembly without needing interpreters; in all Demosthenes' sneer about their civilization there is no hint that Macedonians spoke other thatn Greek. But it was a distinct dialect not readily intelligible to other Greeks; linguistically as geographically, Macedonia was remote from the main stream of Greek life."

[George Cawkwell's "Philip of Macedon", 1978, London, Faber & Faber, p.22]


J.R. Hamilton, in 1969, was Reader in the Department of Classics at the University of Otago, New Zealand. He was subsequently Associate Professor at the University of Auckland until his retirement in 1986.


"That the Macedonians were of Greek stock seems certain. The claim made by the Argead dynasty to be of Argive descent may be no more than a generally accepted myth, but Macedonian proper names, such as Ptolemaios or Philippos, are good Greek names, and the names of the Macedonian months, although differed from those of Athens or Sparta, were also Greek. The language spoken by the Macedonians, which Greeks of the classical period found intelligible, appears to have been a primitive north-west Greek dialect, much influenced by the languages of the neighboring barbarians."

[J.R. Hamilton, “Alexander the Great”, Hutchinson, London, 1973]

"He was still in a world [Macedonia] of Greek gods and sacrifices, of Greek plays and Greek language, though the natives might speak Greek with a northern accent which hardened "ch" into "g". "th" into "d" and pronounced King Philip as "Bilip"

[Robert Lane Fox's "Aleexander the Great", Penguin Books, p.30]



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VARDAR-BULGARSKI!YOUR BULGARIAN HISTORY........
YOU, Bulgarian, in the name of the patriotism, freedom and saving your life, pay to the bearer of this invitation the sum of ...
Invitation from the central revolutionary commitee to all Bulgars in Skopje....


VMRO(BMPO) stamp in Bulgarian language..........


VMRO was first established in 1893 under the name of Bulgarian Macedono-Odrin Revolutionary Committee(BMPO).


The Bulgarian society in Skopje 1870 :


Bulgarian municipality - Prilep


Theophylacti Bulgariae archiepiscopi In omnes divi Pauli apostoli epistolas enarrationes
THEOPHYLACTUS, arcivescovo di Ochrida
http://www.comune.empoli.fi.it/biblioteca/CATALOGO/schede/sch785.html
http://www.comune.empoli.fi.it/biblioteca/CATALOGO/schede/front785.html

Theophylacti archiepiscopi Bulgariae In quator Evangelia enarrationes
THEOPHYLACTUS, arcivescovo di Ochrida
http://www.comune.empoli.fi.it/biblioteca/CATALOGO/schede/sch652.html
http://www.comune.empoli.fi.it/biblioteca/CATALOGO/schede/front652.html

Some villages have Serbian schools and some have Bulgarian schools.
"..in the towns Serbian schools can be found alongside the Bulgarian boys' and girls' elementary and grammar schools. Some villages have Serbian schools and some have Bulgarian schools. Some villagers, along with their teachers and priests, recognize the Patriarchate and come under the protection of the Serbian or Greek consul, while others recognize the Bulgarian Exarchate and place themselves under the authority of the Bulgarian trade representatives."-Misirkov Krste

MISIRKOV:"We are Bulgarian more than the Bulgarians in Bulgaria. The population of Skopje is pure Bulgarian.
"Our fathers, grandfathers, and great grandfathers have always been called Bulgarians"-Krste Misirkov

but what can we possibly do when we ourselves are Bulgarians .......
Text of Delcev's letter to Nikola Maleshevski:WE ARE BULGARIANS!
"Sofia, 01.05.1899, Kolyo, ... May the dissents and cleavages not frighten you. It is really a pity, but what can we possibly do when we ourselves are Bulgarians and all suffer from the same disease! If this disease had not existed in our forefathers who passed it on to us, we wouldn't have fallen under the ugly sceptre of the Turkish sultans..."


"We are Bulgarians and we always work and will work for the unification of the Bulgariandom."
-Dame Gruev (Director of the Bulgarian school in Stip).

" Respected representatives of the Bulgarian people, ....
Here is a excerpt from a letter written in 1861 by the people of Ohrid in protest to the arbitrariness of the Greek metropolite Meletius in which they insist on the restoration of the Ohrid Archbishopric closed back in 1767.
" Respected representatives of the Bulgarian people,
The undersigned inhabitants of Justiniana Prima or Ohrid, after seeing, on one hand, that regardless of all our hopes our common mother, the Great Church of Christ, did not pay attention to the petitions submitted to Her one after another in which we kindly beg Her to change Metropolite Meletius appointed against our will and requests, and ,on the other hand, informed that all our Bulgarian people is indignant with the same at the Great Church of Chris, considered it our inevitable duty to appoint you and recognize you, in accordance with our people, as our plenipotentiary representatives so you can petition, in the kindest fashion, the Sublime Porte to hear our our requests and deliver us from the arbitrariness of the Greek clergy by affirming the restoration of an autocephalous archbishopric of Ohridian Prima Justiniana and all Bulgaria....
April 9th, 1861
Prima Justiniana or Ohrid

There are no 'Macedonians'. There are Bulgars!
"Let me begin by correcting an almost universal fallacy. There are no 'Macedonians'. There are Bulgars. There are Roumans - the relics of the Latin-speaking provincials of Rome's Illyrian provinces, who still hold their own in the Pindus range and in the neighboring towns. There are Greeks, including more or less superficially Hellenized Roumans. There are 'Turks,' including Mohammedan Bulgarians, and some true Turkish villages in the Vardar valley representing a settlement earlier than the Ottoman conquest. There is an infusion of Skipetars or Albanians on the western and northern fringe. Finally, there is the large Spanish Jew population in Salonika. But there are no 'Macedonians'."
Sir Arthur J. Evans. English archaeologist.London Times, on September 30, 1903

STALIN:That a Macedonian consciousness has not yet developed among the population is of no account.
Otecestven Vestnik (Sofia daily), 19 June 1991
STALIN TO BULGARIAN DELEGATION
(G. Dimitrov, V. Kolarov, T. Kostov)
The Kremlin, 7 June 1946
Cultural autonomy must be granted to Pirin Macedonia within the framework of Bulgaria. Tito has shown himself more flexible than you - possibly because he lives in a multiethnic state and has had to give equal rights to the various peoples. Autonomy will be the first step towards the unification of Macedonia, but in view of the present situation there should be no hurry on this matter. Otherwise, in the eyes of the Macedonian people the whole mission of achieving Macedonian autonomy will remain with Tito and you will get the criticism. You seem to be afraid of Kimon Georgiev, you have involved yourselves too much with him and do not want to give autonomy to Pirin Macedonia. That a Macedonian consciousness has not yet developed among the population is of no account. No such consciousness existed in Byelorussia either when we proclaimed it a Soviet Republic. However, later it was shown that a Byelorussian people did in fact exist. ...

creation of a "Socialist Republic of Macedonia" with Skopje as capital is only a sad farce.
Dear Sir,
The magazine HISTORIA has just provided me with the very beautiful book that you so kindly sent me. I have first of all admired the presentation and then was struck by its contents.
Your thesis is brilliant. The Macedonians are and have always been Greeks, and the creation of a "Socialist Republic of Macedonia" with Skopje as capital is only a sad farce. I will not miss, when the opportunity arises, to pass this on.
In thanking you for having so kindly sent me your book, which has interested me even more, having myself written many works on Byzantium, I beg you to believe, dear Sir, by best feelings.
RENE GUERDAN

The referred Slavs were only "Serbian" and "Bulgarian"
The deliberately misleading use of the terms "Macedonians" and "Slavs" is exposed by two irrefutable Turkish documents. One is a population census of 1905, published by an Italian firm and the other is an election announcement of 1912 from Monastir (now Bitolj), which describes the candidates as Turks, Greeks, and Bulgarians. There was no such thing as "Macedonian" nationality during the Turkish period either. The referred Slavs were only "Serbian" and "Bulgarian"
(see Document No 10).
http://www.hri.org/Martis/contents/doc10.html

Ohrid:"Shepherd of the Bulgarians, remember the ruler Andronicos Palleologus, when sacrificing".
Shroud, XIII c.
Ochrid
Presented by the Emperor Andronicos II Palleologus (1282-1328) to the Ochrid Archbishop, inscribed with gold fibers: "Shepherd of the Bulgarians, remember the ruler Andronicos Palleologus, when sacrificing".

(National Museum of History, Sofia)




USKUB 1915: SKOPIANS!See to her your grandfathers....






A prosperous Bulgarian village among the hills.(BRUSNIK,NEAR MONASTIR)


MACEDONIA IS HELLENISM-NOT BULGARISM


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SLAVIC MORON YOU'VE WON FVCKALL! YOU ARE BULGARIANS!STOP LYING BULGARIAN MOTHERFVCKER!

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SLAVIC MORON YOU'VE WON FVCKALL! YOU ARE BULGARIANS!STOP LYING BULGARIAN MOTHERFVCKER!

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What Macedonian? What is Macedonian in FYROM ??

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Akrounoi < akron (ask any Greek to tell you the meaning) + Macedonian o > ou pronounc...

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and thus akr-oun-Os, plural > akrounoi !

The root kr is in Slavic word kraj.

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Solun or Thessaloniki?
Conflict about Macedonian name


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we have a stalemate for now, then

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YOU, Bulgarian, in the name of the patriotism, freedom and saving your life, pay to the bearer of this invitation the sum of ...
Invitation from the central revolutionary commitee to all Bulgars in Skopje....


VMRO(BMPO) stamp in Bulgarian language..........


VMRO was first established in 1893 under the name of Bulgarian Macedono-Odrin Revolutionary Committee(BMPO).


The Bulgarian society in Skopje 1870 :


Bulgarian municipality - Prilep


Theophylacti Bulgariae archiepiscopi In omnes divi Pauli apostoli epistolas enarrationes
THEOPHYLACTUS, arcivescovo di Ochrida
http://www.comune.empoli.fi.it/biblioteca/CATALOGO/schede/sch785.html
http://www.comune.empoli.fi.it/biblioteca/CATALOGO/schede/front785.html

Theophylacti archiepiscopi Bulgariae In quator Evangelia enarrationes
THEOPHYLACTUS, arcivescovo di Ochrida
http://www.comune.empoli.fi.it/biblioteca/CATALOGO/schede/sch652.html
http://www.comune.empoli.fi.it/biblioteca/CATALOGO/schede/front652.html

Some villages have Serbian schools and some have Bulgarian schools.
"..in the towns Serbian schools can be found alongside the Bulgarian boys' and girls' elementary and grammar schools. Some villages have Serbian schools and some have Bulgarian schools. Some villagers, along with their teachers and priests, recognize the Patriarchate and come under the protection of the Serbian or Greek consul, while others recognize the Bulgarian Exarchate and place themselves under the authority of the Bulgarian trade representatives."-Misirkov Krste

MISIRKOV:"We are Bulgarian more than the Bulgarians in Bulgaria. The population of Skopje is pure Bulgarian.
"Our fathers, grandfathers, and great grandfathers have always been called Bulgarians"-Krste Misirkov

but what can we possibly do when we ourselves are Bulgarians .......
Text of Delcev's letter to Nikola Maleshevski:WE ARE BULGARIANS!
"Sofia, 01.05.1899, Kolyo, ... May the dissents and cleavages not frighten you. It is really a pity, but what can we possibly do when we ourselves are Bulgarians and all suffer from the same disease! If this disease had not existed in our forefathers who passed it on to us, we wouldn't have fallen under the ugly sceptre of the Turkish sultans..."


"We are Bulgarians and we always work and will work for the unification of the Bulgariandom."
-Dame Gruev (Director of the Bulgarian school in Stip).

" Respected representatives of the Bulgarian people, ....
Here is a excerpt from a letter written in 1861 by the people of Ohrid in protest to the arbitrariness of the Greek metropolite Meletius in which they insist on the restoration of the Ohrid Archbishopric closed back in 1767.
" Respected representatives of the Bulgarian people,
The undersigned inhabitants of Justiniana Prima or Ohrid, after seeing, on one hand, that regardless of all our hopes our common mother, the Great Church of Christ, did not pay attention to the petitions submitted to Her one after another in which we kindly beg Her to change Metropolite Meletius appointed against our will and requests, and ,on the other hand, informed that all our Bulgarian people is indignant with the same at the Great Church of Chris, considered it our inevitable duty to appoint you and recognize you, in accordance with our people, as our plenipotentiary representatives so you can petition, in the kindest fashion, the Sublime Porte to hear our our requests and deliver us from the arbitrariness of the Greek clergy by affirming the restoration of an autocephalous archbishopric of Ohridian Prima Justiniana and all Bulgaria....
April 9th, 1861
Prima Justiniana or Ohrid

There are no 'Macedonians'. There are Bulgars!
"Let me begin by correcting an almost universal fallacy. There are no 'Macedonians'. There are Bulgars. There are Roumans - the relics of the Latin-speaking provincials of Rome's Illyrian provinces, who still hold their own in the Pindus range and in the neighboring towns. There are Greeks, including more or less superficially Hellenized Roumans. There are 'Turks,' including Mohammedan Bulgarians, and some true Turkish villages in the Vardar valley representing a settlement earlier than the Ottoman conquest. There is an infusion of Skipetars or Albanians on the western and northern fringe. Finally, there is the large Spanish Jew population in Salonika. But there are no 'Macedonians'."
Sir Arthur J. Evans. English archaeologist.London Times, on September 30, 1903

STALIN:That a Macedonian consciousness has not yet developed among the population is of no account.
Otecestven Vestnik (Sofia daily), 19 June 1991
STALIN TO BULGARIAN DELEGATION
(G. Dimitrov, V. Kolarov, T. Kostov)
The Kremlin, 7 June 1946
Cultural autonomy must be granted to Pirin Macedonia within the framework of Bulgaria. Tito has shown himself more flexible than you - possibly because he lives in a multiethnic state and has had to give equal rights to the various peoples. Autonomy will be the first step towards the unification of Macedonia, but in view of the present situation there should be no hurry on this matter. Otherwise, in the eyes of the Macedonian people the whole mission of achieving Macedonian autonomy will remain with Tito and you will get the criticism. You seem to be afraid of Kimon Georgiev, you have involved yourselves too much with him and do not want to give autonomy to Pirin Macedonia. That a Macedonian consciousness has not yet developed among the population is of no account. No such consciousness existed in Byelorussia either when we proclaimed it a Soviet Republic. However, later it was shown that a Byelorussian people did in fact exist. ...

creation of a "Socialist Republic of Macedonia" with Skopje as capital is only a sad farce.
Dear Sir,
The magazine HISTORIA has just provided me with the very beautiful book that you so kindly sent me. I have first of all admired the presentation and then was struck by its contents.
Your thesis is brilliant. The Macedonians are and have always been Greeks, and the creation of a "Socialist Republic of Macedonia" with Skopje as capital is only a sad farce. I will not miss, when the opportunity arises, to pass this on.
In thanking you for having so kindly sent me your book, which has interested me even more, having myself written many works on Byzantium, I beg you to believe, dear Sir, by best feelings.
RENE GUERDAN

The referred Slavs were only "Serbian" and "Bulgarian"
The deliberately misleading use of the terms "Macedonians" and "Slavs" is exposed by two irrefutable Turkish documents. One is a population census of 1905, published by an Italian firm and the other is an election announcement of 1912 from Monastir (now Bitolj), which describes the candidates as Turks, Greeks, and Bulgarians. There was no such thing as "Macedonian" nationality during the Turkish period either. The referred Slavs were only "Serbian" and "Bulgarian"
(see Document No 10).
http://www.hri.org/Martis/contents/doc10.html

Ohrid:"Shepherd of the Bulgarians, remember the ruler Andronicos Palleologus, when sacrificing".
Shroud, XIII c.
Ochrid
Presented by the Emperor Andronicos II Palleologus (1282-1328) to the Ochrid Archbishop, inscribed with gold fibers: "Shepherd of the Bulgarians, remember the ruler Andronicos Palleologus, when sacrificing".

(National Museum of History, Sofia)




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ANCIENT MACEDONIAN IS OLDER THAN YOUR SLAVONIC SLAVOBULGARIAN DIALECT!SHAMELESS SLAV!

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SlavoSkopian propagandist don't care about sequence!!

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they say that Homer words are Slavic !!

hahahahahahahahahaha !!

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pick a name u silly skopjian gypsies, you are a fvcking laughing stock

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dardania
paeonia
vardaria
balkania


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M(ala)kont dear ....

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why your fellow SlavoSkopian propagandists don't have ANY reference to Greek forums like mine ( http://www.network54.com/Forum/448385/ ) or this http://www.macedoniaontheweb.com/forum/ ???

Have they stopped to laugh any more on us? Dodn't they know us? Why don't you go there and tell them about us, in order to make them laugh ??

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I HOPE THE FVCKEN COMMIE ROTTS IN HELL!

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MACEDONIA ON YAHOO

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VARDAR-BULGARSKI!YOUR BULGARIAN HISTORY........

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VARDAR-BULGARSKI!YOUR BULGARIAN HISTORY........
YOU, Bulgarian, in the name of the patriotism, freedom and saving your life, pay to the bearer of this invitation the sum of ...
Invitation from the central revolutionary commitee to all Bulgars in Skopje....


VMRO(BMPO) stamp in Bulgarian language..........


VMRO was first established in 1893 under the name of Bulgarian Macedono-Odrin Revolutionary Committee(BMPO).


The Bulgarian society in Skopje 1870 :


Bulgarian municipality - Prilep


Theophylacti Bulgariae archiepiscopi In omnes divi Pauli apostoli epistolas enarrationes
THEOPHYLACTUS, arcivescovo di Ochrida
http://www.comune.empoli.fi.it/biblioteca/CATALOGO/schede/sch785.html
http://www.comune.empoli.fi.it/biblioteca/CATALOGO/schede/front785.html

Theophylacti archiepiscopi Bulgariae In quator Evangelia enarrationes
THEOPHYLACTUS, arcivescovo di Ochrida
http://www.comune.empoli.fi.it/biblioteca/CATALOGO/schede/sch652.html
http://www.comune.empoli.fi.it/biblioteca/CATALOGO/schede/front652.html

Some villages have Serbian schools and some have Bulgarian schools.
"..in the towns Serbian schools can be found alongside the Bulgarian boys' and girls' elementary and grammar schools. Some villages have Serbian schools and some have Bulgarian schools. Some villagers, along with their teachers and priests, recognize the Patriarchate and come under the protection of the Serbian or Greek consul, while others recognize the Bulgarian Exarchate and place themselves under the authority of the Bulgarian trade representatives."-Misirkov Krste

MISIRKOV:"We are Bulgarian more than the Bulgarians in Bulgaria. The population of Skopje is pure Bulgarian.
"Our fathers, grandfathers, and great grandfathers have always been called Bulgarians"-Krste Misirkov

but what can we possibly do when we ourselves are Bulgarians .......
Text of Delcev's letter to Nikola Maleshevski:WE ARE BULGARIANS!
"Sofia, 01.05.1899, Kolyo, ... May the dissents and cleavages not frighten you. It is really a pity, but what can we possibly do when we ourselves are Bulgarians and all suffer from the same disease! If this disease had not existed in our forefathers who passed it on to us, we wouldn't have fallen under the ugly sceptre of the Turkish sultans..."


"We are Bulgarians and we always work and will work for the unification of the Bulgariandom."
-Dame Gruev (Director of the Bulgarian school in Stip).

" Respected representatives of the Bulgarian people, ....
Here is a excerpt from a letter written in 1861 by the people of Ohrid in protest to the arbitrariness of the Greek metropolite Meletius in which they insist on the restoration of the Ohrid Archbishopric closed back in 1767.
" Respected representatives of the Bulgarian people,
The undersigned inhabitants of Justiniana Prima or Ohrid, after seeing, on one hand, that regardless of all our hopes our common mother, the Great Church of Christ, did not pay attention to the petitions submitted to Her one after another in which we kindly beg Her to change Metropolite Meletius appointed against our will and requests, and ,on the other hand, informed that all our Bulgarian people is indignant with the same at the Great Church of Chris, considered it our inevitable duty to appoint you and recognize you, in accordance with our people, as our plenipotentiary representatives so you can petition, in the kindest fashion, the Sublime Porte to hear our our requests and deliver us from the arbitrariness of the Greek clergy by affirming the restoration of an autocephalous archbishopric of Ohridian Prima Justiniana and all Bulgaria....
April 9th, 1861
Prima Justiniana or Ohrid

There are no 'Macedonians'. There are Bulgars!
"Let me begin by correcting an almost universal fallacy. There are no 'Macedonians'. There are Bulgars. There are Roumans - the relics of the Latin-speaking provincials of Rome's Illyrian provinces, who still hold their own in the Pindus range and in the neighboring towns. There are Greeks, including more or less superficially Hellenized Roumans. There are 'Turks,' including Mohammedan Bulgarians, and some true Turkish villages in the Vardar valley representing a settlement earlier than the Ottoman conquest. There is an infusion of Skipetars or Albanians on the western and northern fringe. Finally, there is the large Spanish Jew population in Salonika. But there are no 'Macedonians'."
Sir Arthur J. Evans. English archaeologist.London Times, on September 30, 1903

STALIN:That a Macedonian consciousness has not yet developed among the population is of no account.
Otecestven Vestnik (Sofia daily), 19 June 1991
STALIN TO BULGARIAN DELEGATION
(G. Dimitrov, V. Kolarov, T. Kostov)
The Kremlin, 7 June 1946
Cultural autonomy must be granted to Pirin Macedonia within the framework of Bulgaria. Tito has shown himself more flexible than you - possibly because he lives in a multiethnic state and has had to give equal rights to the various peoples. Autonomy will be the first step towards the unification of Macedonia, but in view of the present situation there should be no hurry on this matter. Otherwise, in the eyes of the Macedonian people the whole mission of achieving Macedonian autonomy will remain with Tito and you will get the criticism. You seem to be afraid of Kimon Georgiev, you have involved yourselves too much with him and do not want to give autonomy to Pirin Macedonia. That a Macedonian consciousness has not yet developed among the population is of no account. No such consciousness existed in Byelorussia either when we proclaimed it a Soviet Republic. However, later it was shown that a Byelorussian people did in fact exist. ...

creation of a "Socialist Republic of Macedonia" with Skopje as capital is only a sad farce.
Dear Sir,
The magazine HISTORIA has just provided me with the very beautiful book that you so kindly sent me. I have first of all admired the presentation and then was struck by its contents.
Your thesis is brilliant. The Macedonians are and have always been Greeks, and the creation of a "Socialist Republic of Macedonia" with Skopje as capital is only a sad farce. I will not miss, when the opportunity arises, to pass this on.
In thanking you for having so kindly sent me your book, which has interested me even more, having myself written many works on Byzantium, I beg you to believe, dear Sir, by best feelings.
RENE GUERDAN

The referred Slavs were only "Serbian" and "Bulgarian"
The deliberately misleading use of the terms "Macedonians" and "Slavs" is exposed by two irrefutable Turkish documents. One is a population census of 1905, published by an Italian firm and the other is an election announcement of 1912 from Monastir (now Bitolj), which describes the candidates as Turks, Greeks, and Bulgarians. There was no such thing as "Macedonian" nationality during the Turkish period either. The referred Slavs were only "Serbian" and "Bulgarian"
(see Document No 10).
http://www.hri.org/Martis/contents/doc10.html

Ohrid:"Shepherd of the Bulgarians, remember the ruler Andronicos Palleologus, when sacrificing".
Shroud, XIII c.
Ochrid
Presented by the Emperor Andronicos II Palleologus (1282-1328) to the Ochrid Archbishop, inscribed with gold fibers: "Shepherd of the Bulgarians, remember the ruler Andronicos Palleologus, when sacrificing".

(National Museum of History, Sofia)




USKUB 1915: SKOPIANS!See to her your grandfathers....






A prosperous Bulgarian village among the hills.(BRUSNIK,NEAR MONASTIR)


MACEDONIA IS HELLENISM-NOT BULGARISM


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VARDAR-BULGARSKI!YOUR BULGARIAN HISTORY........
YOU, Bulgarian, in the name of the patriotism, freedom and saving your life, pay to the bearer of this invitation the sum of ...
Invitation from the central revolutionary commitee to all Bulgars in Skopje....


VMRO(BMPO) stamp in Bulgarian language..........


VMRO was first established in 1893 under the name of Bulgarian Macedono-Odrin Revolutionary Committee(BMPO).


The Bulgarian society in Skopje 1870 :


Bulgarian municipality - Prilep


Theophylacti Bulgariae archiepiscopi In omnes divi Pauli apostoli epistolas enarrationes
THEOPHYLACTUS, arcivescovo di Ochrida
http://www.comune.empoli.fi.it/biblioteca/CATALOGO/schede/sch785.html
http://www.comune.empoli.fi.it/biblioteca/CATALOGO/schede/front785.html

Theophylacti archiepiscopi Bulgariae In quator Evangelia enarrationes
THEOPHYLACTUS, arcivescovo di Ochrida
http://www.comune.empoli.fi.it/biblioteca/CATALOGO/schede/sch652.html
http://www.comune.empoli.fi.it/biblioteca/CATALOGO/schede/front652.html

Some villages have Serbian schools and some have Bulgarian schools.
"..in the towns Serbian schools can be found alongside the Bulgarian boys' and girls' elementary and grammar schools. Some villages have Serbian schools and some have Bulgarian schools. Some villagers, along with their teachers and priests, recognize the Patriarchate and come under the protection of the Serbian or Greek consul, while others recognize the Bulgarian Exarchate and place themselves under the authority of the Bulgarian trade representatives."-Misirkov Krste

MISIRKOV:"We are Bulgarian more than the Bulgarians in Bulgaria. The population of Skopje is pure Bulgarian.
"Our fathers, grandfathers, and great grandfathers have always been called Bulgarians"-Krste Misirkov

but what can we possibly do when we ourselves are Bulgarians .......
Text of Delcev's letter to Nikola Maleshevski:WE ARE BULGARIANS!
"Sofia, 01.05.1899, Kolyo, ... May the dissents and cleavages not frighten you. It is really a pity, but what can we possibly do when we ourselves are Bulgarians and all suffer from the same disease! If this disease had not existed in our forefathers who passed it on to us, we wouldn't have fallen under the ugly sceptre of the Turkish sultans..."


"We are Bulgarians and we always work and will work for the unification of the Bulgariandom."
-Dame Gruev (Director of the Bulgarian school in Stip).

" Respected representatives of the Bulgarian people, ....
Here is a excerpt from a letter written in 1861 by the people of Ohrid in protest to the arbitrariness of the Greek metropolite Meletius in which they insist on the restoration of the Ohrid Archbishopric closed back in 1767.
" Respected representatives of the Bulgarian people,
The undersigned inhabitants of Justiniana Prima or Ohrid, after seeing, on one hand, that regardless of all our hopes our common mother, the Great Church of Christ, did not pay attention to the petitions submitted to Her one after another in which we kindly beg Her to change Metropolite Meletius appointed against our will and requests, and ,on the other hand, informed that all our Bulgarian people is indignant with the same at the Great Church of Chris, considered it our inevitable duty to appoint you and recognize you, in accordance with our people, as our plenipotentiary representatives so you can petition, in the kindest fashion, the Sublime Porte to hear our our requests and deliver us from the arbitrariness of the Greek clergy by affirming the restoration of an autocephalous archbishopric of Ohridian Prima Justiniana and all Bulgaria....
April 9th, 1861
Prima Justiniana or Ohrid

There are no 'Macedonians'. There are Bulgars!
"Let me begin by correcting an almost universal fallacy. There are no 'Macedonians'. There are Bulgars. There are Roumans - the relics of the Latin-speaking provincials of Rome's Illyrian provinces, who still hold their own in the Pindus range and in the neighboring towns. There are Greeks, including more or less superficially Hellenized Roumans. There are 'Turks,' including Mohammedan Bulgarians, and some true Turkish villages in the Vardar valley representing a settlement earlier than the Ottoman conquest. There is an infusion of Skipetars or Albanians on the western and northern fringe. Finally, there is the large Spanish Jew population in Salonika. But there are no 'Macedonians'."
Sir Arthur J. Evans. English archaeologist.London Times, on September 30, 1903

STALIN:That a Macedonian consciousness has not yet developed among the population is of no account.
Otecestven Vestnik (Sofia daily), 19 June 1991
STALIN TO BULGARIAN DELEGATION
(G. Dimitrov, V. Kolarov, T. Kostov)
The Kremlin, 7 June 1946
Cultural autonomy must be granted to Pirin Macedonia within the framework of Bulgaria. Tito has shown himself more flexible than you - possibly because he lives in a multiethnic state and has had to give equal rights to the various peoples. Autonomy will be the first step towards the unification of Macedonia, but in view of the present situation there should be no hurry on this matter. Otherwise, in the eyes of the Macedonian people the whole mission of achieving Macedonian autonomy will remain with Tito and you will get the criticism. You seem to be afraid of Kimon Georgiev, you have involved yourselves too much with him and do not want to give autonomy to Pirin Macedonia. That a Macedonian consciousness has not yet developed among the population is of no account. No such consciousness existed in Byelorussia either when we proclaimed it a Soviet Republic. However, later it was shown that a Byelorussian people did in fact exist. ...

creation of a "Socialist Republic of Macedonia" with Skopje as capital is only a sad farce.
Dear Sir,
The magazine HISTORIA has just provided me with the very beautiful book that you so kindly sent me. I have first of all admired the presentation and then was struck by its contents.
Your thesis is brilliant. The Macedonians are and have always been Greeks, and the creation of a "Socialist Republic of Macedonia" with Skopje as capital is only a sad farce. I will not miss, when the opportunity arises, to pass this on.
In thanking you for having so kindly sent me your book, which has interested me even more, having myself written many works on Byzantium, I beg you to believe, dear Sir, by best feelings.
RENE GUERDAN

The referred Slavs were only "Serbian" and "Bulgarian"
The deliberately misleading use of the terms "Macedonians" and "Slavs" is exposed by two irrefutable Turkish documents. One is a population census of 1905, published by an Italian firm and the other is an election announcement of 1912 from Monastir (now Bitolj), which describes the candidates as Turks, Greeks, and Bulgarians. There was no such thing as "Macedonian" nationality during the Turkish period either. The referred Slavs were only "Serbian" and "Bulgarian"
(see Document No 10).
http://www.hri.org/Martis/contents/doc10.html

Ohrid:"Shepherd of the Bulgarians, remember the ruler Andronicos Palleologus, when sacrificing".
Shroud, XIII c.
Ochrid
Presented by the Emperor Andronicos II Palleologus (1282-1328) to the Ochrid Archbishop, inscribed with gold fibers: "Shepherd of the Bulgarians, remember the ruler Andronicos Palleologus, when sacrificing".

(National Museum of History, Sofia)




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THIS IS NO SECRET==>WITTENESS FABRICATION COMMUNIST LIES!

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malakas > malakos > malakont > makont > mkont

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Conflict about Macedonian name


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CHOOSE GREECE

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Current developments of the Greek economy

The sustained growth path which characterizes the Greek economy the last few years has been unaffected by the recent international downturn and the rate of growth exceeded 4% for a second year.

In contrast, in Europe and the U.S.A. the rates of growth were gradually reduced to a point that G.D.P. in Eurozone in the fourth quarter of 2001 (in comparison with the same quarter of 2000) reached a modest growth of 0.3%. The downward trend became more acute during the first quarter of 2002 when Eurozone G.D.P. stagnated (increased by 0.1% in comparison with the same quarter of 2001).

In Greece, the trend continued to be upward and during the first quarter of 2002, G.D.P. grew at 4.3% stimulated by investment that increased by a rate of 11.3%. This upward path of the Greek economy is reflected in two more indicators that are constructed by the European Commission and the O.E.C.D. and are used as early indicators for the expected growth rate. In particular, in 2001 the Economic Sentiment Indicator of the European Commission (1995=100) remained for Greece in the 102 points level while for the entire Eurozone recorded on November 2001 a fall to a low of 98.6. From then on and until May 2002, the Eurozone indicator records an increase that reached the 99.8 level but continues to remain below the 1995 level whereas in Greece increases to 102.1 from 101.6 which was the lowest level recorded on October 2001.

Moreover, the early index of O.E.C.D., that is the Leading Economic Indicator (concerning retail sales, new permits for housing construction, financing of industry, orders of goods for exports as well as wholesale prices and the prices of the construction sector) records a similar path. For the entire year of 2001, the index remains for Greece at high levels without any downturn whereas in Eurozone and the rest of the countries of the O.E.C.D. records a significant decline. Beginning in the last months of 2001 and onwards, a steady increase is observed both for Greece and the entire Eurozone. In particular, for Greece the index increased in February 2002 to 119.3 and for the Eurozone to 112.3 from 109.8 which was the lowest level reached on October 2001.

The growth rates of the Greek economy owe, to a large extent, their rapid increase to the falling interest rates and to the significant increase in the private sector financing. The rate of increase in private sector borrowing for 2000, 2001 and for the first quarter of 2002, has reached the high levels of 23-29% when, in contrast, in Eurozone a slowdown has been manifested from 9.6% in 2000 and 7.9% in 2001 to 5.4% in March 2002. Despite this, the first five months of 2002 period inflation and especially core inflation, which for 2001 was 1.8 percentage points higher than that of the Eurozone (3.8% compared with 2%), has declined to 3.5%. This decline occurred in spite of the acceleration by 4.2% in May due to the adjustment of prices for the Easter holiday period, which in 2001 took place on April and this year on May. As a result, the differential of the Greek inflation rate in relation to the European average rate (which moves around 2.6%) has been constrained to one percentage point.

The reduction of the inflationary pressures in the Greek economy has been mainly due to the decline in interest rates, which limited the borrowing costs of businesses. From the high levels of 10% of turnover confronted by businesses in early 1990s, borrowing costs were reduced in 2001 to levels below 2.5% reducing, in this way, the differential from comparable costs confronted by European businesses to one percentage point. Furthermore, the after income tax net profits of the Greek industry, as a percentage of sales, manifested during the last three years period (1999-2001) a rapid increase from 1.2% that they were during the first half of the 1990s to 4.4%. As a result, profits of the Greek industry exceeded by a percentage point the Eurozone’s respective average rate that was 3.5%. Significant improvement was also observed to the ratio of own capital to the total of the industry reaching in 2000 a 49.6% compared with the Eurozone ratio which was at 36%. In 2001, the gross disposable income of households increased by 1.7% in constant prices, gross saving declined to 10% from 11.4% in 2000 and private consumption manifested an increase by 3.2%. During the last years of consumer loans and mortgages increased significantly with financing of these as a percentage of gross disposable income increasing from 11% in 1998 to 23.4% in 2001. However, expenditures for paying interest do not exceed 2.5% of household income mainly because of the decline in the relevant interest rates.

Despite the accelerating growth performance of the Greek economy the last two years, the Athens Stock Exchange index followed the declining trend of the international markets. The General index decreased for the past 17 months at a monthly rate of 2.3% whereas Eurostoxx 50 and S&P 500 showed an average monthly fall at 1.8% and 1.2%, respectively.

In the labour market the acceleration of recovery reduced the unemployment rate from the highest level of 12.4% in the fourth quarter of 1999 to 10.9% in the last quarter of 2001 and the elasticity of wage earning employment, as a G.D.P. ratio, is particularly high at 0.5. Hence, even though total employment remains stationary, the employed wage earners increased during this period by 93,000 persons and by 153,000 since the first quarter of 1998.

Also, productivity of labour manifested a significant increase reaching 85% of the average rate of Eurozone. In contrast, real wages increased by 2.5% and in comparison represent 80% of the average rate of Eurozone in terms of purchasing power standard when the relevant price level is also at 80% of the Eurozone average rate.





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MACEDONIA

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THE REAL ONE
http://www.choosegreece.com/index.asp

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THIS AEGEAN MACEDONIA,, PART OF REAL MACEDONIA

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THIS IS A PART OF MACEDONIA,,, THIS IS AEGEAN MACEDONIA, CAPITO??


http://www.choosegreece.com/region.asp?id=18

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no such thing as aegean macedonia, only macedonia, you are dardania

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VARDAR-BULGARSKI!YOUR BULGARIAN HISTORY........

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VARDAR-BULGARSKI!YOUR BULGARIAN HISTORY........
YOU, Bulgarian, in the name of the patriotism, freedom and saving your life, pay to the bearer of this invitation the sum of ...
Invitation from the central revolutionary commitee to all Bulgars in Skopje....


VMRO(BMPO) stamp in Bulgarian language..........


VMRO was first established in 1893 under the name of Bulgarian Macedono-Odrin Revolutionary Committee(BMPO).


The Bulgarian society in Skopje 1870 :


Bulgarian municipality - Prilep


Theophylacti Bulgariae archiepiscopi In omnes divi Pauli apostoli epistolas enarrationes
THEOPHYLACTUS, arcivescovo di Ochrida
http://www.comune.empoli.fi.it/biblioteca/CATALOGO/schede/sch785.html
http://www.comune.empoli.fi.it/biblioteca/CATALOGO/schede/front785.html

Theophylacti archiepiscopi Bulgariae In quator Evangelia enarrationes
THEOPHYLACTUS, arcivescovo di Ochrida
http://www.comune.empoli.fi.it/biblioteca/CATALOGO/schede/sch652.html
http://www.comune.empoli.fi.it/biblioteca/CATALOGO/schede/front652.html

Some villages have Serbian schools and some have Bulgarian schools.
"..in the towns Serbian schools can be found alongside the Bulgarian boys' and girls' elementary and grammar schools. Some villages have Serbian schools and some have Bulgarian schools. Some villagers, along with their teachers and priests, recognize the Patriarchate and come under the protection of the Serbian or Greek consul, while others recognize the Bulgarian Exarchate and place themselves under the authority of the Bulgarian trade representatives."-Misirkov Krste

MISIRKOV:"We are Bulgarian more than the Bulgarians in Bulgaria. The population of Skopje is pure Bulgarian.
"Our fathers, grandfathers, and great grandfathers have always been called Bulgarians"-Krste Misirkov

but what can we possibly do when we ourselves are Bulgarians .......
Text of Delcev's letter to Nikola Maleshevski:WE ARE BULGARIANS!
"Sofia, 01.05.1899, Kolyo, ... May the dissents and cleavages not frighten you. It is really a pity, but what can we possibly do when we ourselves are Bulgarians and all suffer from the same disease! If this disease had not existed in our forefathers who passed it on to us, we wouldn't have fallen under the ugly sceptre of the Turkish sultans..."


"We are Bulgarians and we always work and will work for the unification of the Bulgariandom."
-Dame Gruev (Director of the Bulgarian school in Stip).

" Respected representatives of the Bulgarian people, ....
Here is a excerpt from a letter written in 1861 by the people of Ohrid in protest to the arbitrariness of the Greek metropolite Meletius in which they insist on the restoration of the Ohrid Archbishopric closed back in 1767.
" Respected representatives of the Bulgarian people,
The undersigned inhabitants of Justiniana Prima or Ohrid, after seeing, on one hand, that regardless of all our hopes our common mother, the Great Church of Christ, did not pay attention to the petitions submitted to Her one after another in which we kindly beg Her to change Metropolite Meletius appointed against our will and requests, and ,on the other hand, informed that all our Bulgarian people is indignant with the same at the Great Church of Chris, considered it our inevitable duty to appoint you and recognize you, in accordance with our people, as our plenipotentiary representatives so you can petition, in the kindest fashion, the Sublime Porte to hear our our requests and deliver us from the arbitrariness of the Greek clergy by affirming the restoration of an autocephalous archbishopric of Ohridian Prima Justiniana and all Bulgaria....
April 9th, 1861
Prima Justiniana or Ohrid

There are no 'Macedonians'. There are Bulgars!
"Let me begin by correcting an almost universal fallacy. There are no 'Macedonians'. There are Bulgars. There are Roumans - the relics of the Latin-speaking provincials of Rome's Illyrian provinces, who still hold their own in the Pindus range and in the neighboring towns. There are Greeks, including more or less superficially Hellenized Roumans. There are 'Turks,' including Mohammedan Bulgarians, and some true Turkish villages in the Vardar valley representing a settlement earlier than the Ottoman conquest. There is an infusion of Skipetars or Albanians on the western and northern fringe. Finally, there is the large Spanish Jew population in Salonika. But there are no 'Macedonians'."
Sir Arthur J. Evans. English archaeologist.London Times, on September 30, 1903

STALIN:That a Macedonian consciousness has not yet developed among the population is of no account.
Otecestven Vestnik (Sofia daily), 19 June 1991
STALIN TO BULGARIAN DELEGATION
(G. Dimitrov, V. Kolarov, T. Kostov)
The Kremlin, 7 June 1946
Cultural autonomy must be granted to Pirin Macedonia within the framework of Bulgaria. Tito has shown himself more flexible than you - possibly because he lives in a multiethnic state and has had to give equal rights to the various peoples. Autonomy will be the first step towards the unification of Macedonia, but in view of the present situation there should be no hurry on this matter. Otherwise, in the eyes of the Macedonian people the whole mission of achieving Macedonian autonomy will remain with Tito and you will get the criticism. You seem to be afraid of Kimon Georgiev, you have involved yourselves too much with him and do not want to give autonomy to Pirin Macedonia. That a Macedonian consciousness has not yet developed among the population is of no account. No such consciousness existed in Byelorussia either when we proclaimed it a Soviet Republic. However, later it was shown that a Byelorussian people did in fact exist. ...

creation of a "Socialist Republic of Macedonia" with Skopje as capital is only a sad farce.
Dear Sir,
The magazine HISTORIA has just provided me with the very beautiful book that you so kindly sent me. I have first of all admired the presentation and then was struck by its contents.
Your thesis is brilliant. The Macedonians are and have always been Greeks, and the creation of a "Socialist Republic of Macedonia" with Skopje as capital is only a sad farce. I will not miss, when the opportunity arises, to pass this on.
In thanking you for having so kindly sent me your book, which has interested me even more, having myself written many works on Byzantium, I beg you to believe, dear Sir, by best feelings.
RENE GUERDAN

The referred Slavs were only "Serbian" and "Bulgarian"
The deliberately misleading use of the terms "Macedonians" and "Slavs" is exposed by two irrefutable Turkish documents. One is a population census of 1905, published by an Italian firm and the other is an election announcement of 1912 from Monastir (now Bitolj), which describes the candidates as Turks, Greeks, and Bulgarians. There was no such thing as "Macedonian" nationality during the Turkish period either. The referred Slavs were only "Serbian" and "Bulgarian"
(see Document No 10).
http://www.hri.org/Martis/contents/doc10.html

Ohrid:"Shepherd of the Bulgarians, remember the ruler Andronicos Palleologus, when sacrificing".
Shroud, XIII c.
Ochrid
Presented by the Emperor Andronicos II Palleologus (1282-1328) to the Ochrid Archbishop, inscribed with gold fibers: "Shepherd of the Bulgarians, remember the ruler Andronicos Palleologus, when sacrificing".

(National Museum of History, Sofia)




USKUB 1915: SKOPIANS!See to her your grandfathers....






A prosperous Bulgarian village among the hills.(BRUSNIK,NEAR MONASTIR)


MACEDONIA IS HELLENISM-NOT BULGARISM


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BOULGAROSLAVIAN IN SWEDEN IS A HIGHLY PAID PROPAGANDIST !!!!

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U R RIGHT MALAKA BULGARE. "AEGEAN" IS ALSO ANOTHER GREEK WORK. IT COMES FROM

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AEGEAS, AN ANCIENT KING OF ATHENS WHO DROWNED INTO THAT SEA, AND EVER SINCE THAT TIME, THE SEA HAS TAKEN HIS NAME: AEGEAN.

THANKS FOR USING GREEK TOPONYMS. AND HOW COULDN'T YOU? THE SOUTH BALKANS WERE HELLENIC SINCE ANTIQUITY. YOU SLAVS, ARE ONLY VERY RECENT

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ILLITERATE BULGARIAN MOTHERFVCKERS!HAVE NO CLUE ABOUT HISTORY==>BRAINWASHED COMMIES!

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FENISKI THIS IS 4 YOUR FAT BLGR AAARSHOLE...hahahahahahaha

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INTRAKOM-Bulgaria (major Greek presence in Bulgaria)

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http://www.intracombg.com/press.php?n=16


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SOME PROPOSED NAMES FOR FYROM, FOR WHEN THE NAME-ISSUE WILL BE RAISED AGAIN

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THE CHOICES ARE MANY

Names reflecting the ethnic make-up of this recent artificial entity

1)BulgoSlavija
2)TurkoSlavija
3)NovoSlavija
4)GyftoSlavija
5)AlbanoSlavija
6)ShiptaroSlavija

then, geographical names since the Slavoskopjians are a generic SlavoTurkic tribe without a history and a past:

1)Dardanija
2)Paeonija
3)Dardanija-Paeonija
Vardarska
Vardarija

Slavodonija (the -donija ending is a last "good-will favor" from Greece since this artificial entity still occupies, in its extreme south, a tiny-weeny section of historic Macedonia)

and an ever favorite: Fyromija (from FYROM)

Macedonia...is out of the question. It already exists in Greece
(From the offical website of the European Union)
http://europa.eu/abc/maps/members/greece_r_en.htm






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FENISKI POUTSOS SUCKER TAKE A LOOK. SUCK OR DIE...! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA BLGROPOUTANA

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News from TurkoSlavija-FYROM's neighbor

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GREECE THAT IS
http://www.elke.gr/newsletter/newsletter.asp?nid=537&cat=538&id=560&lang=1

A New Economic Model
Without a doubt, the knowledge economy is profoundly changing the way the world does business. In today's post-industrial society, national resources are measured in intellectual capital just as they are in natural riches such as petroleum or timber. Greece has witnessed a dramatic turnaround in its GDP makeup during the past two decades. Whereas just 20 years ago our GDP relied heavily on agriculture and basic manufacturing, today's data show that the service sector is by far the leading source of income for the country.

The recent conference held in Athens on Greek Manufacturing: Toward the Knowledge Economy, clearly demonstrated a sea change in how Greece is developing. To a great extent, Greek companies are embracing the notion of innovation in order to remain competitive.

In some manufacturing areas, such as the dairy sector, the latest in packaging and line robotics are keeping Greek companies at the forefront of the industry.

In the energy field, R&D into new, sustainable technologies are being carried out at a high level at institutions such as CRES (Center for Renewable Energy Sources). ADVENT technologies, the winner of the first prize at the recent International Venture Capital Forum, is developing exciting new technologies associated with renewable sources of energy.

And in other areas such as IT, Greek companies are being noticed on the global stage for their cutting edge research, often in difficult fields. Both Sienje Technologies, winner of the second prize at the Venture Capital Forum, and Diaplous Machine Vision, third place winner, are developing IT products and services that will make a real difference in today's world.

Because Greece has such an abundance of gifted scientists, ELKE is stressing areas that offer significant upward potential for investors.

A recent World Bank Knowledge Economy index ranks Greece 34 out of 128 countries. We are certain that after a short period of time, Greece has the potential to enter into the top 20 in this ranking. Investors are encouraged to contact ELKE's investment professionals to learn more about investing in Greece.



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Re: News from TurkoSlavija-FYROM's neighbor

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Sienje Technologies: Enabling Information on Demand

In a global marketplace characterized by complexity and interdependency, businesses are feeling pressure from competitors to deliver strong and consistent financial performance. Companies are faced with questions about reducing operating costs and investing to improve customer satisfaction ratings. They are concerned with effectively leveraging IT investments examining possible actions to improve market share and customer profitability.

Sienje Technologies offers organizations a holistic approach to planning, forecasting, executing, and evaluating business decisions and enterprise strategy, using Corporate Performance Management (CPM) Solutions. Sienje recently placed second in the Best Business Plan competition at the 7th International Venture Capital Forum. The company focuses on providing comprehensive Business Intelligence (BI) solutions and services designed to help businesses adapt quickly to changing market conditions and improve their overall profitability.

Mr. Spilios Theodoratos, General Manager of Sienje Technologies, explains that Information on Demand epitomizes excellence in Business Intelligence (BI) – easy access to timely, relevant data that is aligned and consistent throughout the enterprise. It requires integration of processes, technology, and data, and intelligence that is embedded into business systems and processes that provide answers versus just data. BI also relies on the integrity of information, meaning data that is consistent, controlled, reliable, and well managed.

Corporate Performance Management is a systematic, integrated management approach that links enterprise strategy to core operational processes and activities. By providing planning, budgeting, interactive analysis, and reporting capabilities, CPM allows the business to be “run by numbers” and helps drive management decisions.

Sienje Technologies’ advanced understanding of business management provides organizations a combination of assets:

Processes to be used to manage strategy formulation, budgeting, and forecasting
Methodologies, such as Balanced Scorecard and Value-Based Management
Metrics, used to measure performance against strategic and operational performance goals
Sienje consultants strive to bridge the business and technical requirements of a project and facilitate interactions among various functional groups within an organization.

The company has been working in the Business Intelligence market for about two years. Based on the QlikView and ProClarity platforms, Sienje Technologies builds sophisticated CPM solutions that allow companies to make better decisions by using all the information they have gathered by analyzing it in the form of dashboards and interactive charts. Navigation is done via point-and-click operations.

Wireless Mobility

Sienje Technologies also provides business-critical wireless solutions that extend access to applications, Web content, and communications channels to employees away from the office, thus improving employee response time to customers and partners, increasing business productivity, and enhancing collaboration.

Sienje Technologies is a certified partner of the Proxim Corporation and has received the title of “Proxim Certified Broadband Associate.” In addition, the company has collaborated with pioneers in wireless networking, such as Motorola, offering companies the latest products and solutions. Their solutions are based on state of the art mobility and security technologies. Some examples of these technologies include the implementation of Mobile IP to provide mobility functionality, IP Sec to ensure confidentiality, and RADIUS to manage authentication.

In collaboration with Deutsche Telekom and Global Broadband Internet Access, Sienje Technologies is currently building a network of roaming enabled Wi-Fi Hotspots which will cover public-interest buildings, such as libraries, squares, and malls. The network will be deployed in Greece, Cyprus, and Western Turkey, enabling tourists to access the Internet using their home operators’ access IDs through the Sienje network.



Contact Information:

Sienje Technologies
Patras Science Park
Stadiou St.
Platani, Patras
Greece 26504
Telephone : +30 6936 958 921, +30 2610 911 573
E-mail: info@sienje.com
Website: http://www.sienje.com/



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FYROM AND 1/2 BULGARIA BELONGS TO US. WE MUST LIBERATE IT..!

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MAKEDONIA == ELLAS == 4.000 YEARS HELLENIC HISTORY

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4,1% GDP growth rate for Greece

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How about impoverished THIRD WORLD, TurkoSlavija FYROM?
http://www.express.gr/index.php?selida_id=102&article=80224&categ=2&lang_id=1

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FACK FENIKS MOTHER, GRANDMOTHER AND SISTER ALL TOGETHER.

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Tax Exempt status for greeks that donate to the Albanian Orthodox Church

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TIRANΛ: 08/08/2006
Today's Home News

Te mirat e Kryepeshkopit te Kishes Orthodokse Autoqefale Shqiptare!


Tax exempt status for donations to Church of Albania
Private individuals and companies wishing to make donations to the
Autocephalous Orthodox Church of Albania will now enjoy tax exemption status in
Greece based on a new law effective Jan. 1, 2006.

Also, the Orthodox Church of Albania will be listed amongst the institutions
that are exempt from inheritance taxes normally paid by beneficiaries based
on legislation in effect since Jan. 1, 2004.

The development means that any estate donated to the Autocephalous Orthodox
Church of Albania after Jan. 1, 2004 will be exempt from the inheritance tax,
while the Church is not obligated to declare the acquisition in a tax
statement.



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fack you malaka ALBANIAN SCUM, animal facking streetbegger.

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Giati vrizeis? O Classicist den eipe kati kako gia tin Ellada?

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Stop swearing...Classicist didn't make any bad comments about Greece

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OTAN VLEPO KOLOALBANO MOU ANABOUNE TA LAMPAKIA. OLOI INE TA IDIA SKATA.

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Kai ego eimai ths gnomis,tous Albanous na tous exoume me to meros mas!

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EXIS DIKIO. OTAN INE KONTA MAS TOUS SKOTONOUME PIO EFKOLA....arxidi tou kerata.

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gia na les teties malakies, prepi na ise pasoksis i poustis..! i ke ta 2

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Gia na vgazeis toso thymo kai malakia simainei oti kapios se viase otan isoun 8 hronwn

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DEN XRIAZETE NA MAS APOKALIPTIS TA MISTIKA SOU , AGRIOPOUSTARA TOU KERATA

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PITSIRIKO

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PITSIRIKOOOOOOOO

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ante pigaine gia kammia psyhanlaysi kai epitelous pes stin astynomia pios se viase propersy (otan isoun 8 hronwn) kai vgikes nevrospastikos kai me apothymena. Pes stin astynomia na ton kleisoun mesa gia na min xanaviasei kai vgoun kai alla malakismena san kai sena sta forum me tosa complex, thymo kia apothimena


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etsi ine, asta theatrika tou Loxia...

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O patriotis Loxias ehi brovlima me tous metanastes kai 'immigrants' de kseri pos i economiki katastasi Helladas tous XRIAZETE

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POLA KAI TO SPITI SOY NA SOSSEIS THN KATASTASH...GINE YPIRETIS TOYS...

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Reuters Macedonia claim first win of Euro 2008 qualifying

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TALLINN, Aug 16 (Reuters) - Macedonia claimed the first points of the 2008 European Championship qualifying campaign on Wednesday when Goce Sedloski's late goal earned them an impressive 1-0 away win over Estonia in Group E.

Sedloski got the only goal in the 73rd minute when found space in the home defence to shoot past Mart Poom.
It was a deserved lead for the visitors who applied pressure from the start with some fast, free-flowing football, while errant finishing from Estonia spoiled their hopes of equalising.
England, Croatia, Russia, Israel and Andorra complete the group.


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Reuters England crush Greece 4-0 on McClaren debut

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MANCHESTER, England, Aug 16 (Reuters) - England ushered in a new era under Steve McClaren with a 4-0 thrashing of Greece on Wednesday.

McClaren, who replaced Sven-Goran Eriksson as coach after the World Cup, watched his side romp to a 4-0 lead before the break with new skipper John Terry, Frank Lampard and Peter Crouch, twice, all on target.
With former captain David Beckham left out of the squad, Owen Hargreaves wore his old number seven shirt and combined well in midfield with Steven Gerrard and Lampard.
"I thought Owen Hargreaves was phenomenal," McClaren said.
"He set the standard for the others to follow, not just his attitude but his whole game. You saw the likes of Gerrard and Lampard follow that and produce performances which we're all delighted about," he told the post-match news conference.
Terry opened the scoring after 13 minutes, glancing a header past Greek goalkeeper Antonis Nikopolidis after Stuart Downing had nodded a poor clearance back into the box.

Lampard, who endured a poor World Cup, made it 2-0 after 29 minutes with a deflected left foot effort.
REMARKABLE RECORD
Crouch then pounced for the third after Nikopolidis had done well to keep out a close-range Lampard effort.
The Liverpool striker has a remarkable record at international level and he made it eight goals in 12 games when he headed a Downing cross into the ground, and into the net, four minutes before halftime.
Ashley Cole twice cleared off the line in the second half as Greece produced a much-improved performance, with Georgios Karagounis also forcing substitute goalkeeper Chris Kirkland into a fine save.
The performance was a welcome fillip for England after a disappointing performance in the World Cup, where they were knocked out in the quarter-finals by Portugal.
"In possession we looked like a team. We looked like a team that was cohesive and worked together - it bodes well," McClaren said.
"For three days we have stressed that possession is key, it doesn't win you football matches but it controls you the game, and it did that today. We got great movement and great passing and we dominated the midfield area."
Praising his captain Terry, McClaren added: "John gave a performance that was an inspiration for the rest of the players. That's what a captain does."


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SKOPIANS ARE BULGARS OF YUGOSLAVIA!NOT MACEDONIANS

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VARDAR-BULGARSKI!YOUR BULGARIAN HISTORY........
YOU, Bulgarian, in the name of the patriotism, freedom and saving your life, pay to the bearer of this invitation the sum of ...
Invitation from the central revolutionary commitee to all Bulgars in Skopje....


VMRO(BMPO) stamp in Bulgarian language..........


VMRO was first established in 1893 under the name of Bulgarian Macedono-Odrin Revolutionary Committee(BMPO).


The Bulgarian society in Skopje 1870 :


Bulgarian municipality - Prilep


Theophylacti Bulgariae archiepiscopi In omnes divi Pauli apostoli epistolas enarrationes
THEOPHYLACTUS, arcivescovo di Ochrida
http://www.comune.empoli.fi.it/biblioteca/CATALOGO/schede/sch785.html
http://www.comune.empoli.fi.it/biblioteca/CATALOGO/schede/front785.html

Theophylacti archiepiscopi Bulgariae In quator Evangelia enarrationes
THEOPHYLACTUS, arcivescovo di Ochrida
http://www.comune.empoli.fi.it/biblioteca/CATALOGO/schede/sch652.html
http://www.comune.empoli.fi.it/biblioteca/CATALOGO/schede/front652.html

Some villages have Serbian schools and some have Bulgarian schools.
"..in the towns Serbian schools can be found alongside the Bulgarian boys' and girls' elementary and grammar schools. Some villages have Serbian schools and some have Bulgarian schools. Some villagers, along with their teachers and priests, recognize the Patriarchate and come under the protection of the Serbian or Greek consul, while others recognize the Bulgarian Exarchate and place themselves under the authority of the Bulgarian trade representatives."-Misirkov Krste

MISIRKOV:"We are Bulgarian more than the Bulgarians in Bulgaria. The population of Skopje is pure Bulgarian.
"Our fathers, grandfathers, and great grandfathers have always been called Bulgarians"-Krste Misirkov

but what can we possibly do when we ourselves are Bulgarians .......
Text of Delcev's letter to Nikola Maleshevski:WE ARE BULGARIANS!
"Sofia, 01.05.1899, Kolyo, ... May the dissents and cleavages not frighten you. It is really a pity, but what can we possibly do when we ourselves are Bulgarians and all suffer from the same disease! If this disease had not existed in our forefathers who passed it on to us, we wouldn't have fallen under the ugly sceptre of the Turkish sultans..."


"We are Bulgarians and we always work and will work for the unification of the Bulgariandom."
-Dame Gruev (Director of the Bulgarian school in Stip).

" Respected representatives of the Bulgarian people, ....
Here is a excerpt from a letter written in 1861 by the people of Ohrid in protest to the arbitrariness of the Greek metropolite Meletius in which they insist on the restoration of the Ohrid Archbishopric closed back in 1767.
" Respected representatives of the Bulgarian people,
The undersigned inhabitants of Justiniana Prima or Ohrid, after seeing, on one hand, that regardless of all our hopes our common mother, the Great Church of Christ, did not pay attention to the petitions submitted to Her one after another in which we kindly beg Her to change Metropolite Meletius appointed against our will and requests, and ,on the other hand, informed that all our Bulgarian people is indignant with the same at the Great Church of Chris, considered it our inevitable duty to appoint you and recognize you, in accordance with our people, as our plenipotentiary representatives so you can petition, in the kindest fashion, the Sublime Porte to hear our our requests and deliver us from the arbitrariness of the Greek clergy by affirming the restoration of an autocephalous archbishopric of Ohridian Prima Justiniana and all Bulgaria....
April 9th, 1861
Prima Justiniana or Ohrid

There are no 'Macedonians'. There are Bulgars!
"Let me begin by correcting an almost universal fallacy. There are no 'Macedonians'. There are Bulgars. There are Roumans - the relics of the Latin-speaking provincials of Rome's Illyrian provinces, who still hold their own in the Pindus range and in the neighboring towns. There are Greeks, including more or less superficially Hellenized Roumans. There are 'Turks,' including Mohammedan Bulgarians, and some true Turkish villages in the Vardar valley representing a settlement earlier than the Ottoman conquest. There is an infusion of Skipetars or Albanians on the western and northern fringe. Finally, there is the large Spanish Jew population in Salonika. But there are no 'Macedonians'."
Sir Arthur J. Evans. English archaeologist.London Times, on September 30, 1903

STALIN:That a Macedonian consciousness has not yet developed among the population is of no account.
Otecestven Vestnik (Sofia daily), 19 June 1991
STALIN TO BULGARIAN DELEGATION
(G. Dimitrov, V. Kolarov, T. Kostov)
The Kremlin, 7 June 1946
Cultural autonomy must be granted to Pirin Macedonia within the framework of Bulgaria. Tito has shown himself more flexible than you - possibly because he lives in a multiethnic state and has had to give equal rights to the various peoples. Autonomy will be the first step towards the unification of Macedonia, but in view of the present situation there should be no hurry on this matter. Otherwise, in the eyes of the Macedonian people the whole mission of achieving Macedonian autonomy will remain with Tito and you will get the criticism. You seem to be afraid of Kimon Georgiev, you have involved yourselves too much with him and do not want to give autonomy to Pirin Macedonia. That a Macedonian consciousness has not yet developed among the population is of no account. No such consciousness existed in Byelorussia either when we proclaimed it a Soviet Republic. However, later it was shown that a Byelorussian people did in fact exist. ...

creation of a "Socialist Republic of Macedonia" with Skopje as capital is only a sad farce.
Dear Sir,
The magazine HISTORIA has just provided me with the very beautiful book that you so kindly sent me. I have first of all admired the presentation and then was struck by its contents.
Your thesis is brilliant. The Macedonians are and have always been Greeks, and the creation of a "Socialist Republic of Macedonia" with Skopje as capital is only a sad farce. I will not miss, when the opportunity arises, to pass this on.
In thanking you for having so kindly sent me your book, which has interested me even more, having myself written many works on Byzantium, I beg you to believe, dear Sir, by best feelings.
RENE GUERDAN

The referred Slavs were only "Serbian" and "Bulgarian"
The deliberately misleading use of the terms "Macedonians" and "Slavs" is exposed by two irrefutable Turkish documents. One is a population census of 1905, published by an Italian firm and the other is an election announcement of 1912 from Monastir (now Bitolj), which describes the candidates as Turks, Greeks, and Bulgarians. There was no such thing as "Macedonian" nationality during the Turkish period either. The referred Slavs were only "Serbian" and "Bulgarian"
(see Document No 10).
http://www.hri.org/Martis/contents/doc10.html

Ohrid:"Shepherd of the Bulgarians, remember the ruler Andronicos Palleologus, when sacrificing".
Shroud, XIII c.
Ochrid
Presented by the Emperor Andronicos II Palleologus (1282-1328) to the Ochrid Archbishop, inscribed with gold fibers: "Shepherd of the Bulgarians, remember the ruler Andronicos Palleologus, when sacrificing".

(National Museum of History, Sofia)




USKUB 1915: SKOPIANS!See to her your grandfathers....






A prosperous Bulgarian village among the hills.(BRUSNIK,NEAR MONASTIR)


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soon you'll have to change name bulgars. Like Serbia, from Yugoslavia, then to Serbia & Mo

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Monte Negro and recently to just plain "Serbia"...soon, you'll be forced by Greece to follow suit in changing your name.

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FOR THE GLORYYYYYYYYYYYY OF GREECE!

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Terry leads from front for England but Greece provide pitiful challenge
ALTHOUGH the tepid uptake of tickets and a cloud burst before kick-off caused some deflation, this match had been designed to herald a glorious new Steve McClaren era. Quite what can be taken from a match won at walking pace by England remains very much in question.

Perhaps it had even been ear-marked as the night England might return to active service as world champions. If that was the outlandish proposal then the reality said everything about the emptiness which lay at the heart of the promises of the previous regime.

A half-full Old Trafford welcomed England back into action, but not even four goals in the opening half could fully convince the faithful that these players deserve the kind of devotion that saw lives put on hold during the summer.

England had made fools of many in those weeks when flags had fluttered so optimistically from the bonnets of cars from Penrith to Penzance, and here they were again making fools of a remarkably abject looking Greek team. It will take more than this to validate the McClaren regime, although there was never any danger that he might become the first England head coach since Sir Alf Ramsey to lose his debut match in charge. Perhaps, given Ramsey's subsequent achievements, his would not have been a bad act to follow, but given the circumstances McClaren will simply have been relieved to dispell some of the gloom that settled across the international team following the World Cup.

In a departure from the Sven-Goran Eriksson years, his successor had promised to take friendlies such as these seriously, but there is not much he can do when the opponents are intent on turning the occasion into a joke. Oh that the Greeks are so submissive next midweek when Hearts visit Athens on Champions League qualifying duty. The Tynecastle side's Greek international left-back Takis Fyssas was only on the pitch for 29 minutes and even by then his side were contemplating the prospect of a thrashing.

It was 1-0 going on ten when he departed, to be replaced by Panagiotis Lagos. By the time his team-mates had joined him in the dressing room at half-time it was four, with even the much scorned Frank Lampard finally claiming the goal that would not come in Germany. Admittedly he needed the help of a deflection that lifted the ball over the keeper, but at least his initial shot was on target. Minutes later he reverted to type when passing up a golden chance. Standing just three yards from goal he managed to hit the keeper, but Peter Crouch saved his blushes by converting the rebound. The game had already served its purpose by then in that it had got the McClaren era off and running.

It was not difficult to make comparisons with the send-off Eriksson's side received at the same stadium in May. Back then everything seemed possible, perhaps even likely.

The sun blazed down on Peter Crouch's disco moves and the acronym WAG had yet to be invented. But now Wives and Girlfriends is firmly in the lexicon, as is under-achievement when it comes to describing England's recent efforts. In the match programmed both Brian Barwick and Geoff Thompson, respectively chief executive and chairman of the FA, attempted to gloss over the events of the summer, preferring, understandably, to help initiate McClaren with thoughts of the future rather than past.

But you couldn't completely divorce England from their recent travails, and some prior knowledge was required to make sense of the ripple of respectful applause that greeted each square pass and 50/50 challenge from Owen Hargreaves. A few weeks ago, as was proved even here at Old Trafford against Jamaica, these uncomplicated manoeuvres would have been greeted by boos. Now, because he shined in an otherwise dreadful World Cup project for his team Hargreaves finds himself feted, as well as the subject of a reported £8 million bid from last night's hosts Manchester United.

Whether it was simply down to World Cup fatigue or the questionable box office appeal of Greece, even given their European title, the atmosphere was muted. Banks of empty seats greeted the teams, something that is a rarity when England are involved. Perhaps even their box-office appeal has faded on the back of the unfounded optimism of the summer.

McClaren's welcome was warm but hardly rapturous as he took his place in the dug-out, just the latest man to accept the unenviable task of satisfying a nation's cravings for success. He'd certainly bowed to the wishes of many of the media when presenting them with the handsome head of David Beckham last week. Or at least he thought he had appeased them.

Since then, in a glimpse of the troubles which might lie ahead for him, many observers now question the motivation, suspecting that the move had been sly rather than bold. Whatever the reason, Beckham was not here, although his absence was only really felt when England were awarded free-kicks around the box. Other than that Steven Gerrard out on the right was an able replacement, with the Liverpool skipper a particularly energetic presence in the opening minutes. He was seemingly determined to make a decent fist of being demoted to the flank, although some would contend this is where he remains most dangerous.

Many questions such as this one are still up for debate after a game that revealed precious little save for John Terry's natural ability to lead from the front. He got the scoring underway in just 15 minutes, managing to get the faintest of touches to Lampard's header. He raced away to the sidelines, the first England skipper to score a goal since, well, the last time England scored, courtesy of Beckham against Ecuador. The strikes thereafter followed in swift succession, with Crouch twice prodding home from close range and Lampard exorcising the ghost of his disappointing World Cup.

England: Robinson, G Neville, Ferdinand, Terry, Cole, Gerrard, Lampard, Hargreaves, Downing, Defoe, Crouch. Subs: Kirkland, Young, Bridge, P Neville, Carragher, Brown, Dawson, Jenas, Wright-Phillips, Richardson, Foster, Lennon, Bent.

Greece: Nikopolidis, Fyssas, Dellas, Katsouranis, Antzas, Vyntra, Zagorakis, Karagounis, Giannakopoulos, Samaras, Charisteas. Subs: Chalkias, Basinas, Kafes, Salpigidis, Kyrgiakos, Gekas, Papadopoulos, Anatolakis, Amanatidis, Lagos, Georgeas.

This article: http://sport.scotsman.com/football.cfm?id=1202062006

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VARDAR-BULGARSKI!YOUR BULGARIAN HISTORY........
YOU, Bulgarian, in the name of the patriotism, freedom and saving your life, pay to the bearer of this invitation the sum of ...
Invitation from the central revolutionary commitee to all Bulgars in Skopje....


VMRO(BMPO) stamp in Bulgarian language..........


VMRO was first established in 1893 under the name of Bulgarian Macedono-Odrin Revolutionary Committee(BMPO).


The Bulgarian society in Skopje 1870 :


Bulgarian municipality - Prilep


Theophylacti Bulgariae archiepiscopi In omnes divi Pauli apostoli epistolas enarrationes
THEOPHYLACTUS, arcivescovo di Ochrida
http://www.comune.empoli.fi.it/biblioteca/CATALOGO/schede/sch785.html
http://www.comune.empoli.fi.it/biblioteca/CATALOGO/schede/front785.html

Theophylacti archiepiscopi Bulgariae In quator Evangelia enarrationes
THEOPHYLACTUS, arcivescovo di Ochrida
http://www.comune.empoli.fi.it/biblioteca/CATALOGO/schede/sch652.html
http://www.comune.empoli.fi.it/biblioteca/CATALOGO/schede/front652.html

Some villages have Serbian schools and some have Bulgarian schools.
"..in the towns Serbian schools can be found alongside the Bulgarian boys' and girls' elementary and grammar schools. Some villages have Serbian schools and some have Bulgarian schools. Some villagers, along with their teachers and priests, recognize the Patriarchate and come under the protection of the Serbian or Greek consul, while others recognize the Bulgarian Exarchate and place themselves under the authority of the Bulgarian trade representatives."-Misirkov Krste

MISIRKOV:"We are Bulgarian more than the Bulgarians in Bulgaria. The population of Skopje is pure Bulgarian.
"Our fathers, grandfathers, and great grandfathers have always been called Bulgarians"-Krste Misirkov

but what can we possibly do when we ourselves are Bulgarians .......
Text of Delcev's letter to Nikola Maleshevski:WE ARE BULGARIANS!
"Sofia, 01.05.1899, Kolyo, ... May the dissents and cleavages not frighten you. It is really a pity, but what can we possibly do when we ourselves are Bulgarians and all suffer from the same disease! If this disease had not existed in our forefathers who passed it on to us, we wouldn't have fallen under the ugly sceptre of the Turkish sultans..."


"We are Bulgarians and we always work and will work for the unification of the Bulgariandom."
-Dame Gruev (Director of the Bulgarian school in Stip).

" Respected representatives of the Bulgarian people, ....
Here is a excerpt from a letter written in 1861 by the people of Ohrid in protest to the arbitrariness of the Greek metropolite Meletius in which they insist on the restoration of the Ohrid Archbishopric closed back in 1767.
" Respected representatives of the Bulgarian people,
The undersigned inhabitants of Justiniana Prima or Ohrid, after seeing, on one hand, that regardless of all our hopes our common mother, the Great Church of Christ, did not pay attention to the petitions submitted to Her one after another in which we kindly beg Her to change Metropolite Meletius appointed against our will and requests, and ,on the other hand, informed that all our Bulgarian people is indignant with the same at the Great Church of Chris, considered it our inevitable duty to appoint you and recognize you, in accordance with our people, as our plenipotentiary representatives so you can petition, in the kindest fashion, the Sublime Porte to hear our our requests and deliver us from the arbitrariness of the Greek clergy by affirming the restoration of an autocephalous archbishopric of Ohridian Prima Justiniana and all Bulgaria....
April 9th, 1861
Prima Justiniana or Ohrid

There are no 'Macedonians'. There are Bulgars!
"Let me begin by correcting an almost universal fallacy. There are no 'Macedonians'. There are Bulgars. There are Roumans - the relics of the Latin-speaking provincials of Rome's Illyrian provinces, who still hold their own in the Pindus range and in the neighboring towns. There are Greeks, including more or less superficially Hellenized Roumans. There are 'Turks,' including Mohammedan Bulgarians, and some true Turkish villages in the Vardar valley representing a settlement earlier than the Ottoman conquest. There is an infusion of Skipetars or Albanians on the western and northern fringe. Finally, there is the large Spanish Jew population in Salonika. But there are no 'Macedonians'."
Sir Arthur J. Evans. English archaeologist.London Times, on September 30, 1903

STALIN:That a Macedonian consciousness has not yet developed among the population is of no account.
Otecestven Vestnik (Sofia daily), 19 June 1991
STALIN TO BULGARIAN DELEGATION
(G. Dimitrov, V. Kolarov, T. Kostov)
The Kremlin, 7 June 1946
Cultural autonomy must be granted to Pirin Macedonia within the framework of Bulgaria. Tito has shown himself more flexible than you - possibly because he lives in a multiethnic state and has had to give equal rights to the various peoples. Autonomy will be the first step towards the unification of Macedonia, but in view of the present situation there should be no hurry on this matter. Otherwise, in the eyes of the Macedonian people the whole mission of achieving Macedonian autonomy will remain with Tito and you will get the criticism. You seem to be afraid of Kimon Georgiev, you have involved yourselves too much with him and do not want to give autonomy to Pirin Macedonia. That a Macedonian consciousness has not yet developed among the population is of no account. No such consciousness existed in Byelorussia either when we proclaimed it a Soviet Republic. However, later it was shown that a Byelorussian people did in fact exist. ...

creation of a "Socialist Republic of Macedonia" with Skopje as capital is only a sad farce.
Dear Sir,
The magazine HISTORIA has just provided me with the very beautiful book that you so kindly sent me. I have first of all admired the presentation and then was struck by its contents.
Your thesis is brilliant. The Macedonians are and have always been Greeks, and the creation of a "Socialist Republic of Macedonia" with Skopje as capital is only a sad farce. I will not miss, when the opportunity arises, to pass this on.
In thanking you for having so kindly sent me your book, which has interested me even more, having myself written many works on Byzantium, I beg you to believe, dear Sir, by best feelings.
RENE GUERDAN

The referred Slavs were only "Serbian" and "Bulgarian"
The deliberately misleading use of the terms "Macedonians" and "Slavs" is exposed by two irrefutable Turkish documents. One is a population census of 1905, published by an Italian firm and the other is an election announcement of 1912 from Monastir (now Bitolj), which describes the candidates as Turks, Greeks, and Bulgarians. There was no such thing as "Macedonian" nationality during the Turkish period either. The referred Slavs were only "Serbian" and "Bulgarian"
(see Document No 10).
http://www.hri.org/Martis/contents/doc10.html

Ohrid:"Shepherd of the Bulgarians, remember the ruler Andronicos Palleologus, when sacrificing".
Shroud, XIII c.
Ochrid
Presented by the Emperor Andronicos II Palleologus (1282-1328) to the Ochrid Archbishop, inscribed with gold fibers: "Shepherd of the Bulgarians, remember the ruler Andronicos Palleologus, when sacrificing".

(National Museum of History, Sofia)




USKUB 1915: SKOPIANS!See to her your grandfathers....






A prosperous Bulgarian village among the hills.(BRUSNIK,NEAR MONASTIR)


MACEDONIA IS HELLENISM-NOT BULGARISM


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Yea! Just like what Macedonians were always fighting for

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following Alexander !

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Solun or Thessaloniki?
Conflict about Macedonian name


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MEANINGLESS GAME BULGAR! WAIT 4THE REAL GAMES!

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PUSSY Etymology ....an UNEMPLOYED BULGOSLAV KUNT IN CANADA,,,

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Holidays malakche

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and i make money on my holidays too. what will you be drinking? i'll buy

hungry for a big mac? i'll buy that too

out of financial reach for the ordinary greek:


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By all means KUNT come south of the border Ill pick up the tab for you meal..my treat..

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I dont know if we can keep up with you expensive McDonalds diet...

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VARDAR-BULGARSKI!YOUR BULGARIAN HISTORY........
YOU, Bulgarian, in the name of the patriotism, freedom and saving your life, pay to the bearer of this invitation the sum of ...
Invitation from the central revolutionary commitee to all Bulgars in Skopje....


VMRO(BMPO) stamp in Bulgarian language..........


VMRO was first established in 1893 under the name of Bulgarian Macedono-Odrin Revolutionary Committee(BMPO).


The Bulgarian society in Skopje 1870 :


Bulgarian municipality - Prilep


Theophylacti Bulgariae archiepiscopi In omnes divi Pauli apostoli epistolas enarrationes
THEOPHYLACTUS, arcivescovo di Ochrida
http://www.comune.empoli.fi.it/biblioteca/CATALOGO/schede/sch785.html
http://www.comune.empoli.fi.it/biblioteca/CATALOGO/schede/front785.html

Theophylacti archiepiscopi Bulgariae In quator Evangelia enarrationes
THEOPHYLACTUS, arcivescovo di Ochrida
http://www.comune.empoli.fi.it/biblioteca/CATALOGO/schede/sch652.html
http://www.comune.empoli.fi.it/biblioteca/CATALOGO/schede/front652.html

Some villages have Serbian schools and some have Bulgarian schools.
"..in the towns Serbian schools can be found alongside the Bulgarian boys' and girls' elementary and grammar schools. Some villages have Serbian schools and some have Bulgarian schools. Some villagers, along with their teachers and priests, recognize the Patriarchate and come under the protection of the Serbian or Greek consul, while others recognize the Bulgarian Exarchate and place themselves under the authority of the Bulgarian trade representatives."-Misirkov Krste

MISIRKOV:"We are Bulgarian more than the Bulgarians in Bulgaria. The population of Skopje is pure Bulgarian.
"Our fathers, grandfathers, and great grandfathers have always been called Bulgarians"-Krste Misirkov

but what can we possibly do when we ourselves are Bulgarians .......
Text of Delcev's letter to Nikola Maleshevski:WE ARE BULGARIANS!
"Sofia, 01.05.1899, Kolyo, ... May the dissents and cleavages not frighten you. It is really a pity, but what can we possibly do when we ourselves are Bulgarians and all suffer from the same disease! If this disease had not existed in our forefathers who passed it on to us, we wouldn't have fallen under the ugly sceptre of the Turkish sultans..."


"We are Bulgarians and we always work and will work for the unification of the Bulgariandom."
-Dame Gruev (Director of the Bulgarian school in Stip).

" Respected representatives of the Bulgarian people, ....
Here is a excerpt from a letter written in 1861 by the people of Ohrid in protest to the arbitrariness of the Greek metropolite Meletius in which they insist on the restoration of the Ohrid Archbishopric closed back in 1767.
" Respected representatives of the Bulgarian people,
The undersigned inhabitants of Justiniana Prima or Ohrid, after seeing, on one hand, that regardless of all our hopes our common mother, the Great Church of Christ, did not pay attention to the petitions submitted to Her one after another in which we kindly beg Her to change Metropolite Meletius appointed against our will and requests, and ,on the other hand, informed that all our Bulgarian people is indignant with the same at the Great Church of Chris, considered it our inevitable duty to appoint you and recognize you, in accordance with our people, as our plenipotentiary representatives so you can petition, in the kindest fashion, the Sublime Porte to hear our our requests and deliver us from the arbitrariness of the Greek clergy by affirming the restoration of an autocephalous archbishopric of Ohridian Prima Justiniana and all Bulgaria....
April 9th, 1861
Prima Justiniana or Ohrid

There are no 'Macedonians'. There are Bulgars!
"Let me begin by correcting an almost universal fallacy. There are no 'Macedonians'. There are Bulgars. There are Roumans - the relics of the Latin-speaking provincials of Rome's Illyrian provinces, who still hold their own in the Pindus range and in the neighboring towns. There are Greeks, including more or less superficially Hellenized Roumans. There are 'Turks,' including Mohammedan Bulgarians, and some true Turkish villages in the Vardar valley representing a settlement earlier than the Ottoman conquest. There is an infusion of Skipetars or Albanians on the western and northern fringe. Finally, there is the large Spanish Jew population in Salonika. But there are no 'Macedonians'."
Sir Arthur J. Evans. English archaeologist.London Times, on September 30, 1903

STALIN:That a Macedonian consciousness has not yet developed among the population is of no account.
Otecestven Vestnik (Sofia daily), 19 June 1991
STALIN TO BULGARIAN DELEGATION
(G. Dimitrov, V. Kolarov, T. Kostov)
The Kremlin, 7 June 1946
Cultural autonomy must be granted to Pirin Macedonia within the framework of Bulgaria. Tito has shown himself more flexible than you - possibly because he lives in a multiethnic state and has had to give equal rights to the various peoples. Autonomy will be the first step towards the unification of Macedonia, but in view of the present situation there should be no hurry on this matter. Otherwise, in the eyes of the Macedonian people the whole mission of achieving Macedonian autonomy will remain with Tito and you will get the criticism. You seem to be afraid of Kimon Georgiev, you have involved yourselves too much with him and do not want to give autonomy to Pirin Macedonia. That a Macedonian consciousness has not yet developed among the population is of no account. No such consciousness existed in Byelorussia either when we proclaimed it a Soviet Republic. However, later it was shown that a Byelorussian people did in fact exist. ...

creation of a "Socialist Republic of Macedonia" with Skopje as capital is only a sad farce.
Dear Sir,
The magazine HISTORIA has just provided me with the very beautiful book that you so kindly sent me. I have first of all admired the presentation and then was struck by its contents.
Your thesis is brilliant. The Macedonians are and have always been Greeks, and the creation of a "Socialist Republic of Macedonia" with Skopje as capital is only a sad farce. I will not miss, when the opportunity arises, to pass this on.
In thanking you for having so kindly sent me your book, which has interested me even more, having myself written many works on Byzantium, I beg you to believe, dear Sir, by best feelings.
RENE GUERDAN

The referred Slavs were only "Serbian" and "Bulgarian"
The deliberately misleading use of the terms "Macedonians" and "Slavs" is exposed by two irrefutable Turkish documents. One is a population census of 1905, published by an Italian firm and the other is an election announcement of 1912 from Monastir (now Bitolj), which describes the candidates as Turks, Greeks, and Bulgarians. There was no such thing as "Macedonian" nationality during the Turkish period either. The referred Slavs were only "Serbian" and "Bulgarian"
(see Document No 10).
http://www.hri.org/Martis/contents/doc10.html

Ohrid:"Shepherd of the Bulgarians, remember the ruler Andronicos Palleologus, when sacrificing".
Shroud, XIII c.
Ochrid
Presented by the Emperor Andronicos II Palleologus (1282-1328) to the Ochrid Archbishop, inscribed with gold fibers: "Shepherd of the Bulgarians, remember the ruler Andronicos Palleologus, when sacrificing".

(National Museum of History, Sofia)




USKUB 1915: SKOPIANS!See to her your grandfathers....






A prosperous Bulgarian village among the hills.(BRUSNIK,NEAR MONASTIR)


MACEDONIA IS HELLENISM-NOT BULGARISM


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CHUMP etymology:

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The American Heritage Dictionary of the English Language: Fourth Edition. 2000.

chump1

PRONUNCIATION: chmp
NOUN: A stupid or foolish person; a dolt.
ETYMOLOGY: Perhaps blend of chunk lump1or stump.



the CHUMPIONS of Europe - the greeks!

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CHIMP etymology:

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The American Heritage Dictionary of the English Language: Fourth Edition. 2000.

chimp

PRONUNCIATION: chmp
NOUN: Informal A chimpanzee.




The American Heritage Dictionary of the English Language: Fourth Edition. 2000.

chimpanzee

SYLLABICATION: chim·pan·zee
PRONUNCIATION: chmpn-z, -pn-, chm-pnz
NOUN: A gregarious anthropoid ape (Pan troglodytes) of tropical Africa, having long dark hair and somewhat arboreal habits and exhibiting humanlike behavior and a high degree of intelligence. It is now considered vulnerable to extinction in the wild.
ETYMOLOGY: Portuguese, from Vili (Bantu language of Congo) ci-mpenzi.


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VARDAR-BULGARSKI!YOUR BULGARIAN HISTORY........
YOU, Bulgarian, in the name of the patriotism, freedom and saving your life, pay to the bearer of this invitation the sum of ...
Invitation from the central revolutionary commitee to all Bulgars in Skopje....


VMRO(BMPO) stamp in Bulgarian language..........


VMRO was first established in 1893 under the name of Bulgarian Macedono-Odrin Revolutionary Committee(BMPO).


The Bulgarian society in Skopje 1870 :


Bulgarian municipality - Prilep


Theophylacti Bulgariae archiepiscopi In omnes divi Pauli apostoli epistolas enarrationes
THEOPHYLACTUS, arcivescovo di Ochrida
http://www.comune.empoli.fi.it/biblioteca/CATALOGO/schede/sch785.html
http://www.comune.empoli.fi.it/biblioteca/CATALOGO/schede/front785.html

Theophylacti archiepiscopi Bulgariae In quator Evangelia enarrationes
THEOPHYLACTUS, arcivescovo di Ochrida
http://www.comune.empoli.fi.it/biblioteca/CATALOGO/schede/sch652.html
http://www.comune.empoli.fi.it/biblioteca/CATALOGO/schede/front652.html

Some villages have Serbian schools and some have Bulgarian schools.
"..in the towns Serbian schools can be found alongside the Bulgarian boys' and girls' elementary and grammar schools. Some villages have Serbian schools and some have Bulgarian schools. Some villagers, along with their teachers and priests, recognize the Patriarchate and come under the protection of the Serbian or Greek consul, while others recognize the Bulgarian Exarchate and place themselves under the authority of the Bulgarian trade representatives."-Misirkov Krste

MISIRKOV:"We are Bulgarian more than the Bulgarians in Bulgaria. The population of Skopje is pure Bulgarian.
"Our fathers, grandfathers, and great grandfathers have always been called Bulgarians"-Krste Misirkov

but what can we possibly do when we ourselves are Bulgarians .......
Text of Delcev's letter to Nikola Maleshevski:WE ARE BULGARIANS!
"Sofia, 01.05.1899, Kolyo, ... May the dissents and cleavages not frighten you. It is really a pity, but what can we possibly do when we ourselves are Bulgarians and all suffer from the same disease! If this disease had not existed in our forefathers who passed it on to us, we wouldn't have fallen under the ugly sceptre of the Turkish sultans..."


"We are Bulgarians and we always work and will work for the unification of the Bulgariandom."
-Dame Gruev (Director of the Bulgarian school in Stip).

" Respected representatives of the Bulgarian people, ....
Here is a excerpt from a letter written in 1861 by the people of Ohrid in protest to the arbitrariness of the Greek metropolite Meletius in which they insist on the restoration of the Ohrid Archbishopric closed back in 1767.
" Respected representatives of the Bulgarian people,
The undersigned inhabitants of Justiniana Prima or Ohrid, after seeing, on one hand, that regardless of all our hopes our common mother, the Great Church of Christ, did not pay attention to the petitions submitted to Her one after another in which we kindly beg Her to change Metropolite Meletius appointed against our will and requests, and ,on the other hand, informed that all our Bulgarian people is indignant with the same at the Great Church of Chris, considered it our inevitable duty to appoint you and recognize you, in accordance with our people, as our plenipotentiary representatives so you can petition, in the kindest fashion, the Sublime Porte to hear our our requests and deliver us from the arbitrariness of the Greek clergy by affirming the restoration of an autocephalous archbishopric of Ohridian Prima Justiniana and all Bulgaria....
April 9th, 1861
Prima Justiniana or Ohrid

There are no 'Macedonians'. There are Bulgars!
"Let me begin by correcting an almost universal fallacy. There are no 'Macedonians'. There are Bulgars. There are Roumans - the relics of the Latin-speaking provincials of Rome's Illyrian provinces, who still hold their own in the Pindus range and in the neighboring towns. There are Greeks, including more or less superficially Hellenized Roumans. There are 'Turks,' including Mohammedan Bulgarians, and some true Turkish villages in the Vardar valley representing a settlement earlier than the Ottoman conquest. There is an infusion of Skipetars or Albanians on the western and northern fringe. Finally, there is the large Spanish Jew population in Salonika. But there are no 'Macedonians'."
Sir Arthur J. Evans. English archaeologist.London Times, on September 30, 1903

STALIN:That a Macedonian consciousness has not yet developed among the population is of no account.
Otecestven Vestnik (Sofia daily), 19 June 1991
STALIN TO BULGARIAN DELEGATION
(G. Dimitrov, V. Kolarov, T. Kostov)
The Kremlin, 7 June 1946
Cultural autonomy must be granted to Pirin Macedonia within the framework of Bulgaria. Tito has shown himself more flexible than you - possibly because he lives in a multiethnic state and has had to give equal rights to the various peoples. Autonomy will be the first step towards the unification of Macedonia, but in view of the present situation there should be no hurry on this matter. Otherwise, in the eyes of the Macedonian people the whole mission of achieving Macedonian autonomy will remain with Tito and you will get the criticism. You seem to be afraid of Kimon Georgiev, you have involved yourselves too much with him and do not want to give autonomy to Pirin Macedonia. That a Macedonian consciousness has not yet developed among the population is of no account. No such consciousness existed in Byelorussia either when we proclaimed it a Soviet Republic. However, later it was shown that a Byelorussian people did in fact exist. ...

creation of a "Socialist Republic of Macedonia" with Skopje as capital is only a sad farce.
Dear Sir,
The magazine HISTORIA has just provided me with the very beautiful book that you so kindly sent me. I have first of all admired the presentation and then was struck by its contents.
Your thesis is brilliant. The Macedonians are and have always been Greeks, and the creation of a "Socialist Republic of Macedonia" with Skopje as capital is only a sad farce. I will not miss, when the opportunity arises, to pass this on.
In thanking you for having so kindly sent me your book, which has interested me even more, having myself written many works on Byzantium, I beg you to believe, dear Sir, by best feelings.
RENE GUERDAN

The referred Slavs were only "Serbian" and "Bulgarian"
The deliberately misleading use of the terms "Macedonians" and "Slavs" is exposed by two irrefutable Turkish documents. One is a population census of 1905, published by an Italian firm and the other is an election announcement of 1912 from Monastir (now Bitolj), which describes the candidates as Turks, Greeks, and Bulgarians. There was no such thing as "Macedonian" nationality during the Turkish period either. The referred Slavs were only "Serbian" and "Bulgarian"
(see Document No 10).
http://www.hri.org/Martis/contents/doc10.html

Ohrid:"Shepherd of the Bulgarians, remember the ruler Andronicos Palleologus, when sacrificing".
Shroud, XIII c.
Ochrid
Presented by the Emperor Andronicos II Palleologus (1282-1328) to the Ochrid Archbishop, inscribed with gold fibers: "Shepherd of the Bulgarians, remember the ruler Andronicos Palleologus, when sacrificing".

(National Museum of History, Sofia)




USKUB 1915: SKOPIANS!See to her your grandfathers....






A prosperous Bulgarian village among the hills.(BRUSNIK,NEAR MONASTIR)


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Update on 'Ahrounoi" (anc MK word)

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ARUNDHATI
Gender: Feminine

Usage: Indian, Hindu Mythology

The name of a star (also called Alcor), possibly meaning "not restrained" in Sanskrit. As a personal name it was borne by the wife of the Hindu sage Vasishtha.



earlier i showed the word 'ahrounoi', which meant 'boundary stones' in anc MK and i posted the word 'ukraine' which means the 'end land' (krai = end in MK). now we have the above word which means 'not restrained', which is the opposite of 'boundary' and thus, according to the mkont backwards rule, is a related word to the anc MK 'ahrounoi'

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KUNT get any converts to your bullsh*it line of thinking...fu*cken WASTE..

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Why, yes

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some people are starting to contact me. as i told you all 2 weeks ago. will be time to get the info out to a wider audience soon. see ya there!

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KUNT youre a BITCH thats it right?? NO MAN talks the way you do....

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That's 'cause no man is like me...

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i'm quite the original, or so i have been told. i'll let you know about my new colleagues soon.

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Are they going to be DICKLESS WONDERS LIKE YOU??? KUNT

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VARDAR-BULGARSKI!YOUR BULGARIAN HISTORY........

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VARDAR-BULGARSKI!YOUR BULGARIAN HISTORY........
YOU, Bulgarian, in the name of the patriotism, freedom and saving your life, pay to the bearer of this invitation the sum of ...
Invitation from the central revolutionary commitee to all Bulgars in Skopje....


VMRO(BMPO) stamp in Bulgarian language..........


VMRO was first established in 1893 under the name of Bulgarian Macedono-Odrin Revolutionary Committee(BMPO).


The Bulgarian society in Skopje 1870 :


Bulgarian municipality - Prilep


Theophylacti Bulgariae archiepiscopi In omnes divi Pauli apostoli epistolas enarrationes
THEOPHYLACTUS, arcivescovo di Ochrida
http://www.comune.empoli.fi.it/biblioteca/CATALOGO/schede/sch785.html
http://www.comune.empoli.fi.it/biblioteca/CATALOGO/schede/front785.html

Theophylacti archiepiscopi Bulgariae In quator Evangelia enarrationes
THEOPHYLACTUS, arcivescovo di Ochrida
http://www.comune.empoli.fi.it/biblioteca/CATALOGO/schede/sch652.html
http://www.comune.empoli.fi.it/biblioteca/CATALOGO/schede/front652.html

Some villages have Serbian schools and some have Bulgarian schools.
"..in the towns Serbian schools can be found alongside the Bulgarian boys' and girls' elementary and grammar schools. Some villages have Serbian schools and some have Bulgarian schools. Some villagers, along with their teachers and priests, recognize the Patriarchate and come under the protection of the Serbian or Greek consul, while others recognize the Bulgarian Exarchate and place themselves under the authority of the Bulgarian trade representatives."-Misirkov Krste

MISIRKOV:"We are Bulgarian more than the Bulgarians in Bulgaria. The population of Skopje is pure Bulgarian.
"Our fathers, grandfathers, and great grandfathers have always been called Bulgarians"-Krste Misirkov

but what can we possibly do when we ourselves are Bulgarians .......
Text of Delcev's letter to Nikola Maleshevski:WE ARE BULGARIANS!
"Sofia, 01.05.1899, Kolyo, ... May the dissents and cleavages not frighten you. It is really a pity, but what can we possibly do when we ourselves are Bulgarians and all suffer from the same disease! If this disease had not existed in our forefathers who passed it on to us, we wouldn't have fallen under the ugly sceptre of the Turkish sultans..."


"We are Bulgarians and we always work and will work for the unification of the Bulgariandom."
-Dame Gruev (Director of the Bulgarian school in Stip).

" Respected representatives of the Bulgarian people, ....
Here is a excerpt from a letter written in 1861 by the people of Ohrid in protest to the arbitrariness of the Greek metropolite Meletius in which they insist on the restoration of the Ohrid Archbishopric closed back in 1767.
" Respected representatives of the Bulgarian people,
The undersigned inhabitants of Justiniana Prima or Ohrid, after seeing, on one hand, that regardless of all our hopes our common mother, the Great Church of Christ, did not pay attention to the petitions submitted to Her one after another in which we kindly beg Her to change Metropolite Meletius appointed against our will and requests, and ,on the other hand, informed that all our Bulgarian people is indignant with the same at the Great Church of Chris, considered it our inevitable duty to appoint you and recognize you, in accordance with our people, as our plenipotentiary representatives so you can petition, in the kindest fashion, the Sublime Porte to hear our our requests and deliver us from the arbitrariness of the Greek clergy by affirming the restoration of an autocephalous archbishopric of Ohridian Prima Justiniana and all Bulgaria....
April 9th, 1861
Prima Justiniana or Ohrid

There are no 'Macedonians'. There are Bulgars!
"Let me begin by correcting an almost universal fallacy. There are no 'Macedonians'. There are Bulgars. There are Roumans - the relics of the Latin-speaking provincials of Rome's Illyrian provinces, who still hold their own in the Pindus range and in the neighboring towns. There are Greeks, including more or less superficially Hellenized Roumans. There are 'Turks,' including Mohammedan Bulgarians, and some true Turkish villages in the Vardar valley representing a settlement earlier than the Ottoman conquest. There is an infusion of Skipetars or Albanians on the western and northern fringe. Finally, there is the large Spanish Jew population in Salonika. But there are no 'Macedonians'."
Sir Arthur J. Evans. English archaeologist.London Times, on September 30, 1903

STALIN:That a Macedonian consciousness has not yet developed among the population is of no account.
Otecestven Vestnik (Sofia daily), 19 June 1991
STALIN TO BULGARIAN DELEGATION
(G. Dimitrov, V. Kolarov, T. Kostov)
The Kremlin, 7 June 1946
Cultural autonomy must be granted to Pirin Macedonia within the framework of Bulgaria. Tito has shown himself more flexible than you - possibly because he lives in a multiethnic state and has had to give equal rights to the various peoples. Autonomy will be the first step towards the unification of Macedonia, but in view of the present situation there should be no hurry on this matter. Otherwise, in the eyes of the Macedonian people the whole mission of achieving Macedonian autonomy will remain with Tito and you will get the criticism. You seem to be afraid of Kimon Georgiev, you have involved yourselves too much with him and do not want to give autonomy to Pirin Macedonia. That a Macedonian consciousness has not yet developed among the population is of no account. No such consciousness existed in Byelorussia either when we proclaimed it a Soviet Republic. However, later it was shown that a Byelorussian people did in fact exist. ...

creation of a "Socialist Republic of Macedonia" with Skopje as capital is only a sad farce.
Dear Sir,
The magazine HISTORIA has just provided me with the very beautiful book that you so kindly sent me. I have first of all admired the presentation and then was struck by its contents.
Your thesis is brilliant. The Macedonians are and have always been Greeks, and the creation of a "Socialist Republic of Macedonia" with Skopje as capital is only a sad farce. I will not miss, when the opportunity arises, to pass this on.
In thanking you for having so kindly sent me your book, which has interested me even more, having myself written many works on Byzantium, I beg you to believe, dear Sir, by best feelings.
RENE GUERDAN

The referred Slavs were only "Serbian" and "Bulgarian"
The deliberately misleading use of the terms "Macedonians" and "Slavs" is exposed by two irrefutable Turkish documents. One is a population census of 1905, published by an Italian firm and the other is an election announcement of 1912 from Monastir (now Bitolj), which describes the candidates as Turks, Greeks, and Bulgarians. There was no such thing as "Macedonian" nationality during the Turkish period either. The referred Slavs were only "Serbian" and "Bulgarian"
(see Document No 10).
http://www.hri.org/Martis/contents/doc10.html

Ohrid:"Shepherd of the Bulgarians, remember the ruler Andronicos Palleologus, when sacrificing".
Shroud, XIII c.
Ochrid
Presented by the Emperor Andronicos II Palleologus (1282-1328) to the Ochrid Archbishop, inscribed with gold fibers: "Shepherd of the Bulgarians, remember the ruler Andronicos Palleologus, when sacrificing".

(National Museum of History, Sofia)




USKUB 1915: SKOPIANS!See to her your grandfathers....






A prosperous Bulgarian village among the hills.(BRUSNIK,NEAR MONASTIR)


MACEDONIA IS HELLENISM-NOT BULGARISM


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VARDAR-BULGARSKI!YOUR BULGARIAN HISTORY........
YOU, Bulgarian, in the name of the patriotism, freedom and saving your life, pay to the bearer of this invitation the sum of ...
Invitation from the central revolutionary commitee to all Bulgars in Skopje....


VMRO(BMPO) stamp in Bulgarian language..........


VMRO was first established in 1893 under the name of Bulgarian Macedono-Odrin Revolutionary Committee(BMPO).


The Bulgarian society in Skopje 1870 :


Bulgarian municipality - Prilep


Theophylacti Bulgariae archiepiscopi In omnes divi Pauli apostoli epistolas enarrationes
THEOPHYLACTUS, arcivescovo di Ochrida
http://www.comune.empoli.fi.it/biblioteca/CATALOGO/schede/sch785.html
http://www.comune.empoli.fi.it/biblioteca/CATALOGO/schede/front785.html

Theophylacti archiepiscopi Bulgariae In quator Evangelia enarrationes
THEOPHYLACTUS, arcivescovo di Ochrida
http://www.comune.empoli.fi.it/biblioteca/CATALOGO/schede/sch652.html
http://www.comune.empoli.fi.it/biblioteca/CATALOGO/schede/front652.html

Some villages have Serbian schools and some have Bulgarian schools.
"..in the towns Serbian schools can be found alongside the Bulgarian boys' and girls' elementary and grammar schools. Some villages have Serbian schools and some have Bulgarian schools. Some villagers, along with their teachers and priests, recognize the Patriarchate and come under the protection of the Serbian or Greek consul, while others recognize the Bulgarian Exarchate and place themselves under the authority of the Bulgarian trade representatives."-Misirkov Krste

MISIRKOV:"We are Bulgarian more than the Bulgarians in Bulgaria. The population of Skopje is pure Bulgarian.
"Our fathers, grandfathers, and great grandfathers have always been called Bulgarians"-Krste Misirkov

but what can we possibly do when we ourselves are Bulgarians .......
Text of Delcev's letter to Nikola Maleshevski:WE ARE BULGARIANS!
"Sofia, 01.05.1899, Kolyo, ... May the dissents and cleavages not frighten you. It is really a pity, but what can we possibly do when we ourselves are Bulgarians and all suffer from the same disease! If this disease had not existed in our forefathers who passed it on to us, we wouldn't have fallen under the ugly sceptre of the Turkish sultans..."


"We are Bulgarians and we always work and will work for the unification of the Bulgariandom."
-Dame Gruev (Director of the Bulgarian school in Stip).

" Respected representatives of the Bulgarian people, ....
Here is a excerpt from a letter written in 1861 by the people of Ohrid in protest to the arbitrariness of the Greek metropolite Meletius in which they insist on the restoration of the Ohrid Archbishopric closed back in 1767.
" Respected representatives of the Bulgarian people,
The undersigned inhabitants of Justiniana Prima or Ohrid, after seeing, on one hand, that regardless of all our hopes our common mother, the Great Church of Christ, did not pay attention to the petitions submitted to Her one after another in which we kindly beg Her to change Metropolite Meletius appointed against our will and requests, and ,on the other hand, informed that all our Bulgarian people is indignant with the same at the Great Church of Chris, considered it our inevitable duty to appoint you and recognize you, in accordance with our people, as our plenipotentiary representatives so you can petition, in the kindest fashion, the Sublime Porte to hear our our requests and deliver us from the arbitrariness of the Greek clergy by affirming the restoration of an autocephalous archbishopric of Ohridian Prima Justiniana and all Bulgaria....
April 9th, 1861
Prima Justiniana or Ohrid

There are no 'Macedonians'. There are Bulgars!
"Let me begin by correcting an almost universal fallacy. There are no 'Macedonians'. There are Bulgars. There are Roumans - the relics of the Latin-speaking provincials of Rome's Illyrian provinces, who still hold their own in the Pindus range and in the neighboring towns. There are Greeks, including more or less superficially Hellenized Roumans. There are 'Turks,' including Mohammedan Bulgarians, and some true Turkish villages in the Vardar valley representing a settlement earlier than the Ottoman conquest. There is an infusion of Skipetars or Albanians on the western and northern fringe. Finally, there is the large Spanish Jew population in Salonika. But there are no 'Macedonians'."
Sir Arthur J. Evans. English archaeologist.London Times, on September 30, 1903

STALIN:That a Macedonian consciousness has not yet developed among the population is of no account.
Otecestven Vestnik (Sofia daily), 19 June 1991
STALIN TO BULGARIAN DELEGATION
(G. Dimitrov, V. Kolarov, T. Kostov)
The Kremlin, 7 June 1946
Cultural autonomy must be granted to Pirin Macedonia within the framework of Bulgaria. Tito has shown himself more flexible than you - possibly because he lives in a multiethnic state and has had to give equal rights to the various peoples. Autonomy will be the first step towards the unification of Macedonia, but in view of the present situation there should be no hurry on this matter. Otherwise, in the eyes of the Macedonian people the whole mission of achieving Macedonian autonomy will remain with Tito and you will get the criticism. You seem to be afraid of Kimon Georgiev, you have involved yourselves too much with him and do not want to give autonomy to Pirin Macedonia. That a Macedonian consciousness has not yet developed among the population is of no account. No such consciousness existed in Byelorussia either when we proclaimed it a Soviet Republic. However, later it was shown that a Byelorussian people did in fact exist. ...

creation of a "Socialist Republic of Macedonia" with Skopje as capital is only a sad farce.
Dear Sir,
The magazine HISTORIA has just provided me with the very beautiful book that you so kindly sent me. I have first of all admired the presentation and then was struck by its contents.
Your thesis is brilliant. The Macedonians are and have always been Greeks, and the creation of a "Socialist Republic of Macedonia" with Skopje as capital is only a sad farce. I will not miss, when the opportunity arises, to pass this on.
In thanking you for having so kindly sent me your book, which has interested me even more, having myself written many works on Byzantium, I beg you to believe, dear Sir, by best feelings.
RENE GUERDAN

The referred Slavs were only "Serbian" and "Bulgarian"
The deliberately misleading use of the terms "Macedonians" and "Slavs" is exposed by two irrefutable Turkish documents. One is a population census of 1905, published by an Italian firm and the other is an election announcement of 1912 from Monastir (now Bitolj), which describes the candidates as Turks, Greeks, and Bulgarians. There was no such thing as "Macedonian" nationality during the Turkish period either. The referred Slavs were only "Serbian" and "Bulgarian"
(see Document No 10).
http://www.hri.org/Martis/contents/doc10.html

Ohrid:"Shepherd of the Bulgarians, remember the ruler Andronicos Palleologus, when sacrificing".
Shroud, XIII c.
Ochrid
Presented by the Emperor Andronicos II Palleologus (1282-1328) to the Ochrid Archbishop, inscribed with gold fibers: "Shepherd of the Bulgarians, remember the ruler Andronicos Palleologus, when sacrificing".

(National Museum of History, Sofia)




USKUB 1915: SKOPIANS!See to her your grandfathers....






A prosperous Bulgarian village among the hills.(BRUSNIK,NEAR MONASTIR)


MACEDONIA IS HELLENISM-NOT BULGARISM


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Financial crisis brewing in greece

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same inflationary pressure on prices and deflationary pressure on wages is going on in north america too...


Greeks feel food pinch
Survey shows average Athenian must work 26 minutes to buy a Big Mac

Some basic food items in Athens are among the most expensive in the world, according to the results of an international report that shows that Athenians need to work more than their European Union peers to buy a hamburger or a kilo of rice.

The report, prepared by investment bank UBS Warburg, compared the prices of goods and services in 71 cities around the world in relation to income levels.

According to the report, the average Athenian must work for 26 minutes to buy a Big Mac while Dubliners work for 15 minutes to buy the same burger.

The respective figure in Frankfurt stands at 16 minutes, UBS said.

In order to buy a kilo of rice, an Athenian must work for 20 minutes while locals in Barcelona and Brussels must work for 10 and 12 minutes respectively, according to the results of the study.

The Greek capital ranked 37th (out of a total of 71) on a list which compared the cost of acquiring a basket of 122 consumer goods.

However, with inflation in Greece among the highest in the European Union, there are concerns as to how much higher prices will rise, especially since incomes are dragging well behind.

Local consumers may feel more of a pinch later this year, when companies often up the prices of their goods.

The most expensive cities in the world are Oslo, London, Copenhagen and Zurich.

On the bright side for locals, the study highlighted that people in Asia work the longest hours, almost 50 days more per year than Western Europeans.

In Greece, there are 24 vacation days per year. Only 16 other cities in the world enjoy more paid holidays than Athenians.

«Western Europe is very attractive for employees who value their leisure time. The region is relatively generous when it comes to vacation days,» the report said.

Sao Paulo and Rio de Janeiro topped the list with workers annually entitled to 30 days of paid holidays.





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Banks take a gouge out of greeks

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EDITORIAL

Banks get rich on backs of customers
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Greece's banks have launched another attack on their own customers' benefits after the European Central Bank chose to raise its interest rates. Late Friday afternoon they increased rates on loans while keeping deposit rates steady, raising only slightly the rates on time deposits. While European interest rates on deposits and loans rose slightly, in Greece the already wide discrepancy became even larger.

COMMENTARY

Dealing with a new neighbor
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Recent news reports, mostly overshadowed by the Israeli offensive in Lebanon, said that work is set to begin on an international road project connecting Kosovo to the Adriatic Sea (at the port of Durres) and through the port to Italy and the other European Union states. Work is set to finish in two years' time and will allow the transfer of people and goods between Kosovo and the European markets. On the margins of the dramatic developments in the Middle East, negotiations on the divided province's final status continue.








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VARDAR-BULGARSKI!YOUR BULGARIAN HISTORY........
YOU, Bulgarian, in the name of the patriotism, freedom and saving your life, pay to the bearer of this invitation the sum of ...
Invitation from the central revolutionary commitee to all Bulgars in Skopje....


VMRO(BMPO) stamp in Bulgarian language..........


VMRO was first established in 1893 under the name of Bulgarian Macedono-Odrin Revolutionary Committee(BMPO).


The Bulgarian society in Skopje 1870 :


Bulgarian municipality - Prilep


Theophylacti Bulgariae archiepiscopi In omnes divi Pauli apostoli epistolas enarrationes
THEOPHYLACTUS, arcivescovo di Ochrida
http://www.comune.empoli.fi.it/biblioteca/CATALOGO/schede/sch785.html
http://www.comune.empoli.fi.it/biblioteca/CATALOGO/schede/front785.html

Theophylacti archiepiscopi Bulgariae In quator Evangelia enarrationes
THEOPHYLACTUS, arcivescovo di Ochrida
http://www.comune.empoli.fi.it/biblioteca/CATALOGO/schede/sch652.html
http://www.comune.empoli.fi.it/biblioteca/CATALOGO/schede/front652.html

Some villages have Serbian schools and some have Bulgarian schools.
"..in the towns Serbian schools can be found alongside the Bulgarian boys' and girls' elementary and grammar schools. Some villages have Serbian schools and some have Bulgarian schools. Some villagers, along with their teachers and priests, recognize the Patriarchate and come under the protection of the Serbian or Greek consul, while others recognize the Bulgarian Exarchate and place themselves under the authority of the Bulgarian trade representatives."-Misirkov Krste

MISIRKOV:"We are Bulgarian more than the Bulgarians in Bulgaria. The population of Skopje is pure Bulgarian.
"Our fathers, grandfathers, and great grandfathers have always been called Bulgarians"-Krste Misirkov

but what can we possibly do when we ourselves are Bulgarians .......
Text of Delcev's letter to Nikola Maleshevski:WE ARE BULGARIANS!
"Sofia, 01.05.1899, Kolyo, ... May the dissents and cleavages not frighten you. It is really a pity, but what can we possibly do when we ourselves are Bulgarians and all suffer from the same disease! If this disease had not existed in our forefathers who passed it on to us, we wouldn't have fallen under the ugly sceptre of the Turkish sultans..."


"We are Bulgarians and we always work and will work for the unification of the Bulgariandom."
-Dame Gruev (Director of the Bulgarian school in Stip).

" Respected representatives of the Bulgarian people, ....
Here is a excerpt from a letter written in 1861 by the people of Ohrid in protest to the arbitrariness of the Greek metropolite Meletius in which they insist on the restoration of the Ohrid Archbishopric closed back in 1767.
" Respected representatives of the Bulgarian people,
The undersigned inhabitants of Justiniana Prima or Ohrid, after seeing, on one hand, that regardless of all our hopes our common mother, the Great Church of Christ, did not pay attention to the petitions submitted to Her one after another in which we kindly beg Her to change Metropolite Meletius appointed against our will and requests, and ,on the other hand, informed that all our Bulgarian people is indignant with the same at the Great Church of Chris, considered it our inevitable duty to appoint you and recognize you, in accordance with our people, as our plenipotentiary representatives so you can petition, in the kindest fashion, the Sublime Porte to hear our our requests and deliver us from the arbitrariness of the Greek clergy by affirming the restoration of an autocephalous archbishopric of Ohridian Prima Justiniana and all Bulgaria....
April 9th, 1861
Prima Justiniana or Ohrid

There are no 'Macedonians'. There are Bulgars!
"Let me begin by correcting an almost universal fallacy. There are no 'Macedonians'. There are Bulgars. There are Roumans - the relics of the Latin-speaking provincials of Rome's Illyrian provinces, who still hold their own in the Pindus range and in the neighboring towns. There are Greeks, including more or less superficially Hellenized Roumans. There are 'Turks,' including Mohammedan Bulgarians, and some true Turkish villages in the Vardar valley representing a settlement earlier than the Ottoman conquest. There is an infusion of Skipetars or Albanians on the western and northern fringe. Finally, there is the large Spanish Jew population in Salonika. But there are no 'Macedonians'."
Sir Arthur J. Evans. English archaeologist.London Times, on September 30, 1903

STALIN:That a Macedonian consciousness has not yet developed among the population is of no account.
Otecestven Vestnik (Sofia daily), 19 June 1991
STALIN TO BULGARIAN DELEGATION
(G. Dimitrov, V. Kolarov, T. Kostov)
The Kremlin, 7 June 1946
Cultural autonomy must be granted to Pirin Macedonia within the framework of Bulgaria. Tito has shown himself more flexible than you - possibly because he lives in a multiethnic state and has had to give equal rights to the various peoples. Autonomy will be the first step towards the unification of Macedonia, but in view of the present situation there should be no hurry on this matter. Otherwise, in the eyes of the Macedonian people the whole mission of achieving Macedonian autonomy will remain with Tito and you will get the criticism. You seem to be afraid of Kimon Georgiev, you have involved yourselves too much with him and do not want to give autonomy to Pirin Macedonia. That a Macedonian consciousness has not yet developed among the population is of no account. No such consciousness existed in Byelorussia either when we proclaimed it a Soviet Republic. However, later it was shown that a Byelorussian people did in fact exist. ...

creation of a "Socialist Republic of Macedonia" with Skopje as capital is only a sad farce.
Dear Sir,
The magazine HISTORIA has just provided me with the very beautiful book that you so kindly sent me. I have first of all admired the presentation and then was struck by its contents.
Your thesis is brilliant. The Macedonians are and have always been Greeks, and the creation of a "Socialist Republic of Macedonia" with Skopje as capital is only a sad farce. I will not miss, when the opportunity arises, to pass this on.
In thanking you for having so kindly sent me your book, which has interested me even more, having myself written many works on Byzantium, I beg you to believe, dear Sir, by best feelings.
RENE GUERDAN

The referred Slavs were only "Serbian" and "Bulgarian"
The deliberately misleading use of the terms "Macedonians" and "Slavs" is exposed by two irrefutable Turkish documents. One is a population census of 1905, published by an Italian firm and the other is an election announcement of 1912 from Monastir (now Bitolj), which describes the candidates as Turks, Greeks, and Bulgarians. There was no such thing as "Macedonian" nationality during the Turkish period either. The referred Slavs were only "Serbian" and "Bulgarian"
(see Document No 10).
http://www.hri.org/Martis/contents/doc10.html

Ohrid:"Shepherd of the Bulgarians, remember the ruler Andronicos Palleologus, when sacrificing".
Shroud, XIII c.
Ochrid
Presented by the Emperor Andronicos II Palleologus (1282-1328) to the Ochrid Archbishop, inscribed with gold fibers: "Shepherd of the Bulgarians, remember the ruler Andronicos Palleologus, when sacrificing".

(National Museum of History, Sofia)




USKUB 1915: SKOPIANS!See to her your grandfathers....






A prosperous Bulgarian village among the hills.(BRUSNIK,NEAR MONASTIR)


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Financial crisis brewing in the KUNTS household..Unemployment not a good alternative..

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Just scored $1500 a few minutes ago in a deal

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on my day off too!

who needs to 'work' when i can spend a lot of time helping the New Rising of Macedonia?

i kid you not about the deal i just pulled off. was working on it for a few weeks but it came thru literally less than a half hour ago

have a nice day, malaka.

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I think i'll go to a fancy club for dinner and drinks Friday

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to celebrate a little. wanna join me? i'll buy....

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VARDAR-BULGARSKI!YOUR BULGARIAN HISTORY........

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VARDAR-BULGARSKI!YOUR BULGARIAN HISTORY........
YOU, Bulgarian, in the name of the patriotism, freedom and saving your life, pay to the bearer of this invitation the sum of ...
Invitation from the central revolutionary commitee to all Bulgars in Skopje....


VMRO(BMPO) stamp in Bulgarian language..........


VMRO was first established in 1893 under the name of Bulgarian Macedono-Odrin Revolutionary Committee(BMPO).


The Bulgarian society in Skopje 1870 :


Bulgarian municipality - Prilep


Theophylacti Bulgariae archiepiscopi In omnes divi Pauli apostoli epistolas enarrationes
THEOPHYLACTUS, arcivescovo di Ochrida
http://www.comune.empoli.fi.it/biblioteca/CATALOGO/schede/sch785.html
http://www.comune.empoli.fi.it/biblioteca/CATALOGO/schede/front785.html

Theophylacti archiepiscopi Bulgariae In quator Evangelia enarrationes
THEOPHYLACTUS, arcivescovo di Ochrida
http://www.comune.empoli.fi.it/biblioteca/CATALOGO/schede/sch652.html
http://www.comune.empoli.fi.it/biblioteca/CATALOGO/schede/front652.html

Some villages have Serbian schools and some have Bulgarian schools.
"..in the towns Serbian schools can be found alongside the Bulgarian boys' and girls' elementary and grammar schools. Some villages have Serbian schools and some have Bulgarian schools. Some villagers, along with their teachers and priests, recognize the Patriarchate and come under the protection of the Serbian or Greek consul, while others recognize the Bulgarian Exarchate and place themselves under the authority of the Bulgarian trade representatives."-Misirkov Krste

MISIRKOV:"We are Bulgarian more than the Bulgarians in Bulgaria. The population of Skopje is pure Bulgarian.
"Our fathers, grandfathers, and great grandfathers have always been called Bulgarians"-Krste Misirkov

but what can we possibly do when we ourselves are Bulgarians .......
Text of Delcev's letter to Nikola Maleshevski:WE ARE BULGARIANS!
"Sofia, 01.05.1899, Kolyo, ... May the dissents and cleavages not frighten you. It is really a pity, but what can we possibly do when we ourselves are Bulgarians and all suffer from the same disease! If this disease had not existed in our forefathers who passed it on to us, we wouldn't have fallen under the ugly sceptre of the Turkish sultans..."


"We are Bulgarians and we always work and will work for the unification of the Bulgariandom."
-Dame Gruev (Director of the Bulgarian school in Stip).

" Respected representatives of the Bulgarian people, ....
Here is a excerpt from a letter written in 1861 by the people of Ohrid in protest to the arbitrariness of the Greek metropolite Meletius in which they insist on the restoration of the Ohrid Archbishopric closed back in 1767.
" Respected representatives of the Bulgarian people,
The undersigned inhabitants of Justiniana Prima or Ohrid, after seeing, on one hand, that regardless of all our hopes our common mother, the Great Church of Christ, did not pay attention to the petitions submitted to Her one after another in which we kindly beg Her to change Metropolite Meletius appointed against our will and requests, and ,on the other hand, informed that all our Bulgarian people is indignant with the same at the Great Church of Chris, considered it our inevitable duty to appoint you and recognize you, in accordance with our people, as our plenipotentiary representatives so you can petition, in the kindest fashion, the Sublime Porte to hear our our requests and deliver us from the arbitrariness of the Greek clergy by affirming the restoration of an autocephalous archbishopric of Ohridian Prima Justiniana and all Bulgaria....
April 9th, 1861
Prima Justiniana or Ohrid

There are no 'Macedonians'. There are Bulgars!
"Let me begin by correcting an almost universal fallacy. There are no 'Macedonians'. There are Bulgars. There are Roumans - the relics of the Latin-speaking provincials of Rome's Illyrian provinces, who still hold their own in the Pindus range and in the neighboring towns. There are Greeks, including more or less superficially Hellenized Roumans. There are 'Turks,' including Mohammedan Bulgarians, and some true Turkish villages in the Vardar valley representing a settlement earlier than the Ottoman conquest. There is an infusion of Skipetars or Albanians on the western and northern fringe. Finally, there is the large Spanish Jew population in Salonika. But there are no 'Macedonians'."
Sir Arthur J. Evans. English archaeologist.London Times, on September 30, 1903

STALIN:That a Macedonian consciousness has not yet developed among the population is of no account.
Otecestven Vestnik (Sofia daily), 19 June 1991
STALIN TO BULGARIAN DELEGATION
(G. Dimitrov, V. Kolarov, T. Kostov)
The Kremlin, 7 June 1946
Cultural autonomy must be granted to Pirin Macedonia within the framework of Bulgaria. Tito has shown himself more flexible than you - possibly because he lives in a multiethnic state and has had to give equal rights to the various peoples. Autonomy will be the first step towards the unification of Macedonia, but in view of the present situation there should be no hurry on this matter. Otherwise, in the eyes of the Macedonian people the whole mission of achieving Macedonian autonomy will remain with Tito and you will get the criticism. You seem to be afraid of Kimon Georgiev, you have involved yourselves too much with him and do not want to give autonomy to Pirin Macedonia. That a Macedonian consciousness has not yet developed among the population is of no account. No such consciousness existed in Byelorussia either when we proclaimed it a Soviet Republic. However, later it was shown that a Byelorussian people did in fact exist. ...

creation of a "Socialist Republic of Macedonia" with Skopje as capital is only a sad farce.
Dear Sir,
The magazine HISTORIA has just provided me with the very beautiful book that you so kindly sent me. I have first of all admired the presentation and then was struck by its contents.
Your thesis is brilliant. The Macedonians are and have always been Greeks, and the creation of a "Socialist Republic of Macedonia" with Skopje as capital is only a sad farce. I will not miss, when the opportunity arises, to pass this on.
In thanking you for having so kindly sent me your book, which has interested me even more, having myself written many works on Byzantium, I beg you to believe, dear Sir, by best feelings.
RENE GUERDAN

The referred Slavs were only "Serbian" and "Bulgarian"
The deliberately misleading use of the terms "Macedonians" and "Slavs" is exposed by two irrefutable Turkish documents. One is a population census of 1905, published by an Italian firm and the other is an election announcement of 1912 from Monastir (now Bitolj), which describes the candidates as Turks, Greeks, and Bulgarians. There was no such thing as "Macedonian" nationality during the Turkish period either. The referred Slavs were only "Serbian" and "Bulgarian"
(see Document No 10).
http://www.hri.org/Martis/contents/doc10.html

Ohrid:"Shepherd of the Bulgarians, remember the ruler Andronicos Palleologus, when sacrificing".
Shroud, XIII c.
Ochrid
Presented by the Emperor Andronicos II Palleologus (1282-1328) to the Ochrid Archbishop, inscribed with gold fibers: "Shepherd of the Bulgarians, remember the ruler Andronicos Palleologus, when sacrificing".

(National Museum of History, Sofia)




USKUB 1915: SKOPIANS!See to her your grandfathers....






A prosperous Bulgarian village among the hills.(BRUSNIK,NEAR MONASTIR)


MACEDONIA IS HELLENISM-NOT BULGARISM


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VARDAR-BULGARSKI!YOUR BULGARIAN HISTORY........
YOU, Bulgarian, in the name of the patriotism, freedom and saving your life, pay to the bearer of this invitation the sum of ...
Invitation from the central revolutionary commitee to all Bulgars in Skopje....


VMRO(BMPO) stamp in Bulgarian language..........


VMRO was first established in 1893 under the name of Bulgarian Macedono-Odrin Revolutionary Committee(BMPO).


The Bulgarian society in Skopje 1870 :


Bulgarian municipality - Prilep


Theophylacti Bulgariae archiepiscopi In omnes divi Pauli apostoli epistolas enarrationes
THEOPHYLACTUS, arcivescovo di Ochrida
http://www.comune.empoli.fi.it/biblioteca/CATALOGO/schede/sch785.html
http://www.comune.empoli.fi.it/biblioteca/CATALOGO/schede/front785.html

Theophylacti archiepiscopi Bulgariae In quator Evangelia enarrationes
THEOPHYLACTUS, arcivescovo di Ochrida
http://www.comune.empoli.fi.it/biblioteca/CATALOGO/schede/sch652.html
http://www.comune.empoli.fi.it/biblioteca/CATALOGO/schede/front652.html

Some villages have Serbian schools and some have Bulgarian schools.
"..in the towns Serbian schools can be found alongside the Bulgarian boys' and girls' elementary and grammar schools. Some villages have Serbian schools and some have Bulgarian schools. Some villagers, along with their teachers and priests, recognize the Patriarchate and come under the protection of the Serbian or Greek consul, while others recognize the Bulgarian Exarchate and place themselves under the authority of the Bulgarian trade representatives."-Misirkov Krste

MISIRKOV:"We are Bulgarian more than the Bulgarians in Bulgaria. The population of Skopje is pure Bulgarian.
"Our fathers, grandfathers, and great grandfathers have always been called Bulgarians"-Krste Misirkov

but what can we possibly do when we ourselves are Bulgarians .......
Text of Delcev's letter to Nikola Maleshevski:WE ARE BULGARIANS!
"Sofia, 01.05.1899, Kolyo, ... May the dissents and cleavages not frighten you. It is really a pity, but what can we possibly do when we ourselves are Bulgarians and all suffer from the same disease! If this disease had not existed in our forefathers who passed it on to us, we wouldn't have fallen under the ugly sceptre of the Turkish sultans..."


"We are Bulgarians and we always work and will work for the unification of the Bulgariandom."
-Dame Gruev (Director of the Bulgarian school in Stip).

" Respected representatives of the Bulgarian people, ....
Here is a excerpt from a letter written in 1861 by the people of Ohrid in protest to the arbitrariness of the Greek metropolite Meletius in which they insist on the restoration of the Ohrid Archbishopric closed back in 1767.
" Respected representatives of the Bulgarian people,
The undersigned inhabitants of Justiniana Prima or Ohrid, after seeing, on one hand, that regardless of all our hopes our common mother, the Great Church of Christ, did not pay attention to the petitions submitted to Her one after another in which we kindly beg Her to change Metropolite Meletius appointed against our will and requests, and ,on the other hand, informed that all our Bulgarian people is indignant with the same at the Great Church of Chris, considered it our inevitable duty to appoint you and recognize you, in accordance with our people, as our plenipotentiary representatives so you can petition, in the kindest fashion, the Sublime Porte to hear our our requests and deliver us from the arbitrariness of the Greek clergy by affirming the restoration of an autocephalous archbishopric of Ohridian Prima Justiniana and all Bulgaria....
April 9th, 1861
Prima Justiniana or Ohrid

There are no 'Macedonians'. There are Bulgars!
"Let me begin by correcting an almost universal fallacy. There are no 'Macedonians'. There are Bulgars. There are Roumans - the relics of the Latin-speaking provincials of Rome's Illyrian provinces, who still hold their own in the Pindus range and in the neighboring towns. There are Greeks, including more or less superficially Hellenized Roumans. There are 'Turks,' including Mohammedan Bulgarians, and some true Turkish villages in the Vardar valley representing a settlement earlier than the Ottoman conquest. There is an infusion of Skipetars or Albanians on the western and northern fringe. Finally, there is the large Spanish Jew population in Salonika. But there are no 'Macedonians'."
Sir Arthur J. Evans. English archaeologist.London Times, on September 30, 1903

STALIN:That a Macedonian consciousness has not yet developed among the population is of no account.
Otecestven Vestnik (Sofia daily), 19 June 1991
STALIN TO BULGARIAN DELEGATION
(G. Dimitrov, V. Kolarov, T. Kostov)
The Kremlin, 7 June 1946
Cultural autonomy must be granted to Pirin Macedonia within the framework of Bulgaria. Tito has shown himself more flexible than you - possibly because he lives in a multiethnic state and has had to give equal rights to the various peoples. Autonomy will be the first step towards the unification of Macedonia, but in view of the present situation there should be no hurry on this matter. Otherwise, in the eyes of the Macedonian people the whole mission of achieving Macedonian autonomy will remain with Tito and you will get the criticism. You seem to be afraid of Kimon Georgiev, you have involved yourselves too much with him and do not want to give autonomy to Pirin Macedonia. That a Macedonian consciousness has not yet developed among the population is of no account. No such consciousness existed in Byelorussia either when we proclaimed it a Soviet Republic. However, later it was shown that a Byelorussian people did in fact exist. ...

creation of a "Socialist Republic of Macedonia" with Skopje as capital is only a sad farce.
Dear Sir,
The magazine HISTORIA has just provided me with the very beautiful book that you so kindly sent me. I have first of all admired the presentation and then was struck by its contents.
Your thesis is brilliant. The Macedonians are and have always been Greeks, and the creation of a "Socialist Republic of Macedonia" with Skopje as capital is only a sad farce. I will not miss, when the opportunity arises, to pass this on.
In thanking you for having so kindly sent me your book, which has interested me even more, having myself written many works on Byzantium, I beg you to believe, dear Sir, by best feelings.
RENE GUERDAN

The referred Slavs were only "Serbian" and "Bulgarian"
The deliberately misleading use of the terms "Macedonians" and "Slavs" is exposed by two irrefutable Turkish documents. One is a population census of 1905, published by an Italian firm and the other is an election announcement of 1912 from Monastir (now Bitolj), which describes the candidates as Turks, Greeks, and Bulgarians. There was no such thing as "Macedonian" nationality during the Turkish period either. The referred Slavs were only "Serbian" and "Bulgarian"
(see Document No 10).
http://www.hri.org/Martis/contents/doc10.html

Ohrid:"Shepherd of the Bulgarians, remember the ruler Andronicos Palleologus, when sacrificing".
Shroud, XIII c.
Ochrid
Presented by the Emperor Andronicos II Palleologus (1282-1328) to the Ochrid Archbishop, inscribed with gold fibers: "Shepherd of the Bulgarians, remember the ruler Andronicos Palleologus, when sacrificing".

(National Museum of History, Sofia)




USKUB 1915: SKOPIANS!See to her your grandfathers....






A prosperous Bulgarian village among the hills.(BRUSNIK,NEAR MONASTIR)


MACEDONIA IS HELLENISM-NOT BULGARISM


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VARDAR-BULGARSKI!YOUR BULGARIAN HISTORY........
YOU, Bulgarian, in the name of the patriotism, freedom and saving your life, pay to the bearer of this invitation the sum of ...
Invitation from the central revolutionary commitee to all Bulgars in Skopje....


VMRO(BMPO) stamp in Bulgarian language..........


VMRO was first established in 1893 under the name of Bulgarian Macedono-Odrin Revolutionary Committee(BMPO).


The Bulgarian society in Skopje 1870 :


Bulgarian municipality - Prilep


Theophylacti Bulgariae archiepiscopi In omnes divi Pauli apostoli epistolas enarrationes
THEOPHYLACTUS, arcivescovo di Ochrida
http://www.comune.empoli.fi.it/biblioteca/CATALOGO/schede/sch785.html
http://www.comune.empoli.fi.it/biblioteca/CATALOGO/schede/front785.html

Theophylacti archiepiscopi Bulgariae In quator Evangelia enarrationes
THEOPHYLACTUS, arcivescovo di Ochrida
http://www.comune.empoli.fi.it/biblioteca/CATALOGO/schede/sch652.html
http://www.comune.empoli.fi.it/biblioteca/CATALOGO/schede/front652.html

Some villages have Serbian schools and some have Bulgarian schools.
"..in the towns Serbian schools can be found alongside the Bulgarian boys' and girls' elementary and grammar schools. Some villages have Serbian schools and some have Bulgarian schools. Some villagers, along with their teachers and priests, recognize the Patriarchate and come under the protection of the Serbian or Greek consul, while others recognize the Bulgarian Exarchate and place themselves under the authority of the Bulgarian trade representatives."-Misirkov Krste

MISIRKOV:"We are Bulgarian more than the Bulgarians in Bulgaria. The population of Skopje is pure Bulgarian.
"Our fathers, grandfathers, and great grandfathers have always been called Bulgarians"-Krste Misirkov

but what can we possibly do when we ourselves are Bulgarians .......
Text of Delcev's letter to Nikola Maleshevski:WE ARE BULGARIANS!
"Sofia, 01.05.1899, Kolyo, ... May the dissents and cleavages not frighten you. It is really a pity, but what can we possibly do when we ourselves are Bulgarians and all suffer from the same disease! If this disease had not existed in our forefathers who passed it on to us, we wouldn't have fallen under the ugly sceptre of the Turkish sultans..."


"We are Bulgarians and we always work and will work for the unification of the Bulgariandom."
-Dame Gruev (Director of the Bulgarian school in Stip).

" Respected representatives of the Bulgarian people, ....
Here is a excerpt from a letter written in 1861 by the people of Ohrid in protest to the arbitrariness of the Greek metropolite Meletius in which they insist on the restoration of the Ohrid Archbishopric closed back in 1767.
" Respected representatives of the Bulgarian people,
The undersigned inhabitants of Justiniana Prima or Ohrid, after seeing, on one hand, that regardless of all our hopes our common mother, the Great Church of Christ, did not pay attention to the petitions submitted to Her one after another in which we kindly beg Her to change Metropolite Meletius appointed against our will and requests, and ,on the other hand, informed that all our Bulgarian people is indignant with the same at the Great Church of Chris, considered it our inevitable duty to appoint you and recognize you, in accordance with our people, as our plenipotentiary representatives so you can petition, in the kindest fashion, the Sublime Porte to hear our our requests and deliver us from the arbitrariness of the Greek clergy by affirming the restoration of an autocephalous archbishopric of Ohridian Prima Justiniana and all Bulgaria....
April 9th, 1861
Prima Justiniana or Ohrid

There are no 'Macedonians'. There are Bulgars!
"Let me begin by correcting an almost universal fallacy. There are no 'Macedonians'. There are Bulgars. There are Roumans - the relics of the Latin-speaking provincials of Rome's Illyrian provinces, who still hold their own in the Pindus range and in the neighboring towns. There are Greeks, including more or less superficially Hellenized Roumans. There are 'Turks,' including Mohammedan Bulgarians, and some true Turkish villages in the Vardar valley representing a settlement earlier than the Ottoman conquest. There is an infusion of Skipetars or Albanians on the western and northern fringe. Finally, there is the large Spanish Jew population in Salonika. But there are no 'Macedonians'."
Sir Arthur J. Evans. English archaeologist.London Times, on September 30, 1903

STALIN:That a Macedonian consciousness has not yet developed among the population is of no account.
Otecestven Vestnik (Sofia daily), 19 June 1991
STALIN TO BULGARIAN DELEGATION
(G. Dimitrov, V. Kolarov, T. Kostov)
The Kremlin, 7 June 1946
Cultural autonomy must be granted to Pirin Macedonia within the framework of Bulgaria. Tito has shown himself more flexible than you - possibly because he lives in a multiethnic state and has had to give equal rights to the various peoples. Autonomy will be the first step towards the unification of Macedonia, but in view of the present situation there should be no hurry on this matter. Otherwise, in the eyes of the Macedonian people the whole mission of achieving Macedonian autonomy will remain with Tito and you will get the criticism. You seem to be afraid of Kimon Georgiev, you have involved yourselves too much with him and do not want to give autonomy to Pirin Macedonia. That a Macedonian consciousness has not yet developed among the population is of no account. No such consciousness existed in Byelorussia either when we proclaimed it a Soviet Republic. However, later it was shown that a Byelorussian people did in fact exist. ...

creation of a "Socialist Republic of Macedonia" with Skopje as capital is only a sad farce.
Dear Sir,
The magazine HISTORIA has just provided me with the very beautiful book that you so kindly sent me. I have first of all admired the presentation and then was struck by its contents.
Your thesis is brilliant. The Macedonians are and have always been Greeks, and the creation of a "Socialist Republic of Macedonia" with Skopje as capital is only a sad farce. I will not miss, when the opportunity arises, to pass this on.
In thanking you for having so kindly sent me your book, which has interested me even more, having myself written many works on Byzantium, I beg you to believe, dear Sir, by best feelings.
RENE GUERDAN

The referred Slavs were only "Serbian" and "Bulgarian"
The deliberately misleading use of the terms "Macedonians" and "Slavs" is exposed by two irrefutable Turkish documents. One is a population census of 1905, published by an Italian firm and the other is an election announcement of 1912 from Monastir (now Bitolj), which describes the candidates as Turks, Greeks, and Bulgarians. There was no such thing as "Macedonian" nationality during the Turkish period either. The referred Slavs were only "Serbian" and "Bulgarian"
(see Document No 10).
http://www.hri.org/Martis/contents/doc10.html

Ohrid:"Shepherd of the Bulgarians, remember the ruler Andronicos Palleologus, when sacrificing".
Shroud, XIII c.
Ochrid
Presented by the Emperor Andronicos II Palleologus (1282-1328) to the Ochrid Archbishop, inscribed with gold fibers: "Shepherd of the Bulgarians, remember the ruler Andronicos Palleologus, when sacrificing".

(National Museum of History, Sofia)




USKUB 1915: SKOPIANS!See to her your grandfathers....






A prosperous Bulgarian village among the hills.(BRUSNIK,NEAR MONASTIR)


MACEDONIA IS HELLENISM-NOT BULGARISM


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Milestone win for MACEDONIANS! Bravo batki, dobra pobeda!

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http://www.uefa.com/competitions/EURO/FixturesResults/Round=2241/match=83915/index.html

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Just Simply MAHVELOUS!

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the Mahvelous Macedonians!

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FORMER YUGOSLAVIAS FVCKING SLAVS!

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hahahah you FVCKING TURKS!

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MAGGOT...Are you a good CO_CK MILKER?

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VARDAR-BULGARSKI!YOUR BULGARIAN HISTORY........
YOU, Bulgarian, in the name of the patriotism, freedom and saving your life, pay to the bearer of this invitation the sum of ...
Invitation from the central revolutionary commitee to all Bulgars in Skopje....


VMRO(BMPO) stamp in Bulgarian language..........


VMRO was first established in 1893 under the name of Bulgarian Macedono-Odrin Revolutionary Committee(BMPO).


The Bulgarian society in Skopje 1870 :


Bulgarian municipality - Prilep


Theophylacti Bulgariae archiepiscopi In omnes divi Pauli apostoli epistolas enarrationes
THEOPHYLACTUS, arcivescovo di Ochrida
http://www.comune.empoli.fi.it/biblioteca/CATALOGO/schede/sch785.html
http://www.comune.empoli.fi.it/biblioteca/CATALOGO/schede/front785.html

Theophylacti archiepiscopi Bulgariae In quator Evangelia enarrationes
THEOPHYLACTUS, arcivescovo di Ochrida
http://www.comune.empoli.fi.it/biblioteca/CATALOGO/schede/sch652.html
http://www.comune.empoli.fi.it/biblioteca/CATALOGO/schede/front652.html

Some villages have Serbian schools and some have Bulgarian schools.
"..in the towns Serbian schools can be found alongside the Bulgarian boys' and girls' elementary and grammar schools. Some villages have Serbian schools and some have Bulgarian schools. Some villagers, along with their teachers and priests, recognize the Patriarchate and come under the protection of the Serbian or Greek consul, while others recognize the Bulgarian Exarchate and place themselves under the authority of the Bulgarian trade representatives."-Misirkov Krste

MISIRKOV:"We are Bulgarian more than the Bulgarians in Bulgaria. The population of Skopje is pure Bulgarian.
"Our fathers, grandfathers, and great grandfathers have always been called Bulgarians"-Krste Misirkov

but what can we possibly do when we ourselves are Bulgarians .......
Text of Delcev's letter to Nikola Maleshevski:WE ARE BULGARIANS!
"Sofia, 01.05.1899, Kolyo, ... May the dissents and cleavages not frighten you. It is really a pity, but what can we possibly do when we ourselves are Bulgarians and all suffer from the same disease! If this disease had not existed in our forefathers who passed it on to us, we wouldn't have fallen under the ugly sceptre of the Turkish sultans..."


"We are Bulgarians and we always work and will work for the unification of the Bulgariandom."
-Dame Gruev (Director of the Bulgarian school in Stip).

" Respected representatives of the Bulgarian people, ....
Here is a excerpt from a letter written in 1861 by the people of Ohrid in protest to the arbitrariness of the Greek metropolite Meletius in which they insist on the restoration of the Ohrid Archbishopric closed back in 1767.
" Respected representatives of the Bulgarian people,
The undersigned inhabitants of Justiniana Prima or Ohrid, after seeing, on one hand, that regardless of all our hopes our common mother, the Great Church of Christ, did not pay attention to the petitions submitted to Her one after another in which we kindly beg Her to change Metropolite Meletius appointed against our will and requests, and ,on the other hand, informed that all our Bulgarian people is indignant with the same at the Great Church of Chris, considered it our inevitable duty to appoint you and recognize you, in accordance with our people, as our plenipotentiary representatives so you can petition, in the kindest fashion, the Sublime Porte to hear our our requests and deliver us from the arbitrariness of the Greek clergy by affirming the restoration of an autocephalous archbishopric of Ohridian Prima Justiniana and all Bulgaria....
April 9th, 1861
Prima Justiniana or Ohrid

There are no 'Macedonians'. There are Bulgars!
"Let me begin by correcting an almost universal fallacy. There are no 'Macedonians'. There are Bulgars. There are Roumans - the relics of the Latin-speaking provincials of Rome's Illyrian provinces, who still hold their own in the Pindus range and in the neighboring towns. There are Greeks, including more or less superficially Hellenized Roumans. There are 'Turks,' including Mohammedan Bulgarians, and some true Turkish villages in the Vardar valley representing a settlement earlier than the Ottoman conquest. There is an infusion of Skipetars or Albanians on the western and northern fringe. Finally, there is the large Spanish Jew population in Salonika. But there are no 'Macedonians'."
Sir Arthur J. Evans. English archaeologist.London Times, on September 30, 1903

STALIN:That a Macedonian consciousness has not yet developed among the population is of no account.
Otecestven Vestnik (Sofia daily), 19 June 1991
STALIN TO BULGARIAN DELEGATION
(G. Dimitrov, V. Kolarov, T. Kostov)
The Kremlin, 7 June 1946
Cultural autonomy must be granted to Pirin Macedonia within the framework of Bulgaria. Tito has shown himself more flexible than you - possibly because he lives in a multiethnic state and has had to give equal rights to the various peoples. Autonomy will be the first step towards the unification of Macedonia, but in view of the present situation there should be no hurry on this matter. Otherwise, in the eyes of the Macedonian people the whole mission of achieving Macedonian autonomy will remain with Tito and you will get the criticism. You seem to be afraid of Kimon Georgiev, you have involved yourselves too much with him and do not want to give autonomy to Pirin Macedonia. That a Macedonian consciousness has not yet developed among the population is of no account. No such consciousness existed in Byelorussia either when we proclaimed it a Soviet Republic. However, later it was shown that a Byelorussian people did in fact exist. ...

creation of a "Socialist Republic of Macedonia" with Skopje as capital is only a sad farce.
Dear Sir,
The magazine HISTORIA has just provided me with the very beautiful book that you so kindly sent me. I have first of all admired the presentation and then was struck by its contents.
Your thesis is brilliant. The Macedonians are and have always been Greeks, and the creation of a "Socialist Republic of Macedonia" with Skopje as capital is only a sad farce. I will not miss, when the opportunity arises, to pass this on.
In thanking you for having so kindly sent me your book, which has interested me even more, having myself written many works on Byzantium, I beg you to believe, dear Sir, by best feelings.
RENE GUERDAN

The referred Slavs were only "Serbian" and "Bulgarian"
The deliberately misleading use of the terms "Macedonians" and "Slavs" is exposed by two irrefutable Turkish documents. One is a population census of 1905, published by an Italian firm and the other is an election announcement of 1912 from Monastir (now Bitolj), which describes the candidates as Turks, Greeks, and Bulgarians. There was no such thing as "Macedonian" nationality during the Turkish period either. The referred Slavs were only "Serbian" and "Bulgarian"
(see Document No 10).
http://www.hri.org/Martis/contents/doc10.html

Ohrid:"Shepherd of the Bulgarians, remember the ruler Andronicos Palleologus, when sacrificing".
Shroud, XIII c.
Ochrid
Presented by the Emperor Andronicos II Palleologus (1282-1328) to the Ochrid Archbishop, inscribed with gold fibers: "Shepherd of the Bulgarians, remember the ruler Andronicos Palleologus, when sacrificing".

(National Museum of History, Sofia)




USKUB 1915: SKOPIANS!See to her your grandfathers....






A prosperous Bulgarian village among the hills.(BRUSNIK,NEAR MONASTIR)


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VARDAR-BULGARSKI!YOUR BULGARIAN HISTORY........
YOU, Bulgarian, in the name of the patriotism, freedom and saving your life, pay to the bearer of this invitation the sum of ...
Invitation from the central revolutionary commitee to all Bulgars in Skopje....


VMRO(BMPO) stamp in Bulgarian language..........


VMRO was first established in 1893 under the name of Bulgarian Macedono-Odrin Revolutionary Committee(BMPO).


The Bulgarian society in Skopje 1870 :


Bulgarian municipality - Prilep


Theophylacti Bulgariae archiepiscopi In omnes divi Pauli apostoli epistolas enarrationes
THEOPHYLACTUS, arcivescovo di Ochrida
http://www.comune.empoli.fi.it/biblioteca/CATALOGO/schede/sch785.html
http://www.comune.empoli.fi.it/biblioteca/CATALOGO/schede/front785.html

Theophylacti archiepiscopi Bulgariae In quator Evangelia enarrationes
THEOPHYLACTUS, arcivescovo di Ochrida
http://www.comune.empoli.fi.it/biblioteca/CATALOGO/schede/sch652.html
http://www.comune.empoli.fi.it/biblioteca/CATALOGO/schede/front652.html

Some villages have Serbian schools and some have Bulgarian schools.
"..in the towns Serbian schools can be found alongside the Bulgarian boys' and girls' elementary and grammar schools. Some villages have Serbian schools and some have Bulgarian schools. Some villagers, along with their teachers and priests, recognize the Patriarchate and come under the protection of the Serbian or Greek consul, while others recognize the Bulgarian Exarchate and place themselves under the authority of the Bulgarian trade representatives."-Misirkov Krste

MISIRKOV:"We are Bulgarian more than the Bulgarians in Bulgaria. The population of Skopje is pure Bulgarian.
"Our fathers, grandfathers, and great grandfathers have always been called Bulgarians"-Krste Misirkov

but what can we possibly do when we ourselves are Bulgarians .......
Text of Delcev's letter to Nikola Maleshevski:WE ARE BULGARIANS!
"Sofia, 01.05.1899, Kolyo, ... May the dissents and cleavages not frighten you. It is really a pity, but what can we possibly do when we ourselves are Bulgarians and all suffer from the same disease! If this disease had not existed in our forefathers who passed it on to us, we wouldn't have fallen under the ugly sceptre of the Turkish sultans..."


"We are Bulgarians and we always work and will work for the unification of the Bulgariandom."
-Dame Gruev (Director of the Bulgarian school in Stip).

" Respected representatives of the Bulgarian people, ....
Here is a excerpt from a letter written in 1861 by the people of Ohrid in protest to the arbitrariness of the Greek metropolite Meletius in which they insist on the restoration of the Ohrid Archbishopric closed back in 1767.
" Respected representatives of the Bulgarian people,
The undersigned inhabitants of Justiniana Prima or Ohrid, after seeing, on one hand, that regardless of all our hopes our common mother, the Great Church of Christ, did not pay attention to the petitions submitted to Her one after another in which we kindly beg Her to change Metropolite Meletius appointed against our will and requests, and ,on the other hand, informed that all our Bulgarian people is indignant with the same at the Great Church of Chris, considered it our inevitable duty to appoint you and recognize you, in accordance with our people, as our plenipotentiary representatives so you can petition, in the kindest fashion, the Sublime Porte to hear our our requests and deliver us from the arbitrariness of the Greek clergy by affirming the restoration of an autocephalous archbishopric of Ohridian Prima Justiniana and all Bulgaria....
April 9th, 1861
Prima Justiniana or Ohrid

There are no 'Macedonians'. There are Bulgars!
"Let me begin by correcting an almost universal fallacy. There are no 'Macedonians'. There are Bulgars. There are Roumans - the relics of the Latin-speaking provincials of Rome's Illyrian provinces, who still hold their own in the Pindus range and in the neighboring towns. There are Greeks, including more or less superficially Hellenized Roumans. There are 'Turks,' including Mohammedan Bulgarians, and some true Turkish villages in the Vardar valley representing a settlement earlier than the Ottoman conquest. There is an infusion of Skipetars or Albanians on the western and northern fringe. Finally, there is the large Spanish Jew population in Salonika. But there are no 'Macedonians'."
Sir Arthur J. Evans. English archaeologist.London Times, on September 30, 1903

STALIN:That a Macedonian consciousness has not yet developed among the population is of no account.
Otecestven Vestnik (Sofia daily), 19 June 1991
STALIN TO BULGARIAN DELEGATION
(G. Dimitrov, V. Kolarov, T. Kostov)
The Kremlin, 7 June 1946
Cultural autonomy must be granted to Pirin Macedonia within the framework of Bulgaria. Tito has shown himself more flexible than you - possibly because he lives in a multiethnic state and has had to give equal rights to the various peoples. Autonomy will be the first step towards the unification of Macedonia, but in view of the present situation there should be no hurry on this matter. Otherwise, in the eyes of the Macedonian people the whole mission of achieving Macedonian autonomy will remain with Tito and you will get the criticism. You seem to be afraid of Kimon Georgiev, you have involved yourselves too much with him and do not want to give autonomy to Pirin Macedonia. That a Macedonian consciousness has not yet developed among the population is of no account. No such consciousness existed in Byelorussia either when we proclaimed it a Soviet Republic. However, later it was shown that a Byelorussian people did in fact exist. ...

creation of a "Socialist Republic of Macedonia" with Skopje as capital is only a sad farce.
Dear Sir,
The magazine HISTORIA has just provided me with the very beautiful book that you so kindly sent me. I have first of all admired the presentation and then was struck by its contents.
Your thesis is brilliant. The Macedonians are and have always been Greeks, and the creation of a "Socialist Republic of Macedonia" with Skopje as capital is only a sad farce. I will not miss, when the opportunity arises, to pass this on.
In thanking you for having so kindly sent me your book, which has interested me even more, having myself written many works on Byzantium, I beg you to believe, dear Sir, by best feelings.
RENE GUERDAN

The referred Slavs were only "Serbian" and "Bulgarian"
The deliberately misleading use of the terms "Macedonians" and "Slavs" is exposed by two irrefutable Turkish documents. One is a population census of 1905, published by an Italian firm and the other is an election announcement of 1912 from Monastir (now Bitolj), which describes the candidates as Turks, Greeks, and Bulgarians. There was no such thing as "Macedonian" nationality during the Turkish period either. The referred Slavs were only "Serbian" and "Bulgarian"
(see Document No 10).
http://www.hri.org/Martis/contents/doc10.html

Ohrid:"Shepherd of the Bulgarians, remember the ruler Andronicos Palleologus, when sacrificing".
Shroud, XIII c.
Ochrid
Presented by the Emperor Andronicos II Palleologus (1282-1328) to the Ochrid Archbishop, inscribed with gold fibers: "Shepherd of the Bulgarians, remember the ruler Andronicos Palleologus, when sacrificing".

(National Museum of History, Sofia)




USKUB 1915: SKOPIANS!See to her your grandfathers....






A prosperous Bulgarian village among the hills.(BRUSNIK,NEAR MONASTIR)


MACEDONIA IS HELLENISM-NOT BULGARISM


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YOU, Bulgarian, in the name of the patriotism, freedom and saving your life, pay to the bearer of this invitation the sum of ...
Invitation from the central revolutionary commitee to all Bulgars in Skopje....


VMRO(BMPO) stamp in Bulgarian language..........


VMRO was first established in 1893 under the name of Bulgarian Macedono-Odrin Revolutionary Committee(BMPO).


The Bulgarian society in Skopje 1870 :


Bulgarian municipality - Prilep


Theophylacti Bulgariae archiepiscopi In omnes divi Pauli apostoli epistolas enarrationes
THEOPHYLACTUS, arcivescovo di Ochrida
http://www.comune.empoli.fi.it/biblioteca/CATALOGO/schede/sch785.html
http://www.comune.empoli.fi.it/biblioteca/CATALOGO/schede/front785.html

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THEOPHYLACTUS, arcivescovo di Ochrida
http://www.comune.empoli.fi.it/biblioteca/CATALOGO/schede/sch652.html
http://www.comune.empoli.fi.it/biblioteca/CATALOGO/schede/front652.html

Some villages have Serbian schools and some have Bulgarian schools.
"..in the towns Serbian schools can be found alongside the Bulgarian boys' and girls' elementary and grammar schools. Some villages have Serbian schools and some have Bulgarian schools. Some villagers, along with their teachers and priests, recognize the Patriarchate and come under the protection of the Serbian or Greek consul, while others recognize the Bulgarian Exarchate and place themselves under the authority of the Bulgarian trade representatives."-Misirkov Krste

MISIRKOV:"We are Bulgarian more than the Bulgarians in Bulgaria. The population of Skopje is pure Bulgarian.
"Our fathers, grandfathers, and great grandfathers have always been called Bulgarians"-Krste Misirkov

but what can we possibly do when we ourselves are Bulgarians .......
Text of Delcev's letter to Nikola Maleshevski:WE ARE BULGARIANS!
"Sofia, 01.05.1899, Kolyo, ... May the dissents and cleavages not frighten you. It is really a pity, but what can we possibly do when we ourselves are Bulgarians and all suffer from the same disease! If this disease had not existed in our forefathers who passed it on to us, we wouldn't have fallen under the ugly sceptre of the Turkish sultans..."


"We are Bulgarians and we always work and will work for the unification of the Bulgariandom."
-Dame Gruev (Director of the Bulgarian school in Stip).

" Respected representatives of the Bulgarian people, ....
Here is a excerpt from a letter written in 1861 by the people of Ohrid in protest to the arbitrariness of the Greek metropolite Meletius in which they insist on the restoration of the Ohrid Archbishopric closed back in 1767.
" Respected representatives of the Bulgarian people,
The undersigned inhabitants of Justiniana Prima or Ohrid, after seeing, on one hand, that regardless of all our hopes our common mother, the Great Church of Christ, did not pay attention to the petitions submitted to Her one after another in which we kindly beg Her to change Metropolite Meletius appointed against our will and requests, and ,on the other hand, informed that all our Bulgarian people is indignant with the same at the Great Church of Chris, considered it our inevitable duty to appoint you and recognize you, in accordance with our people, as our plenipotentiary representatives so you can petition, in the kindest fashion, the Sublime Porte to hear our our requests and deliver us from the arbitrariness of the Greek clergy by affirming the restoration of an autocephalous archbishopric of Ohridian Prima Justiniana and all Bulgaria....
April 9th, 1861
Prima Justiniana or Ohrid

There are no 'Macedonians'. There are Bulgars!
"Let me begin by correcting an almost universal fallacy. There are no 'Macedonians'. There are Bulgars. There are Roumans - the relics of the Latin-speaking provincials of Rome's Illyrian provinces, who still hold their own in the Pindus range and in the neighboring towns. There are Greeks, including more or less superficially Hellenized Roumans. There are 'Turks,' including Mohammedan Bulgarians, and some true Turkish villages in the Vardar valley representing a settlement earlier than the Ottoman conquest. There is an infusion of Skipetars or Albanians on the western and northern fringe. Finally, there is the large Spanish Jew population in Salonika. But there are no 'Macedonians'."
Sir Arthur J. Evans. English archaeologist.London Times, on September 30, 1903

STALIN:That a Macedonian consciousness has not yet developed among the population is of no account.
Otecestven Vestnik (Sofia daily), 19 June 1991
STALIN TO BULGARIAN DELEGATION
(G. Dimitrov, V. Kolarov, T. Kostov)
The Kremlin, 7 June 1946
Cultural autonomy must be granted to Pirin Macedonia within the framework of Bulgaria. Tito has shown himself more flexible than you - possibly because he lives in a multiethnic state and has had to give equal rights to the various peoples. Autonomy will be the first step towards the unification of Macedonia, but in view of the present situation there should be no hurry on this matter. Otherwise, in the eyes of the Macedonian people the whole mission of achieving Macedonian autonomy will remain with Tito and you will get the criticism. You seem to be afraid of Kimon Georgiev, you have involved yourselves too much with him and do not want to give autonomy to Pirin Macedonia. That a Macedonian consciousness has not yet developed among the population is of no account. No such consciousness existed in Byelorussia either when we proclaimed it a Soviet Republic. However, later it was shown that a Byelorussian people did in fact exist. ...

creation of a "Socialist Republic of Macedonia" with Skopje as capital is only a sad farce.
Dear Sir,
The magazine HISTORIA has just provided me with the very beautiful book that you so kindly sent me. I have first of all admired the presentation and then was struck by its contents.
Your thesis is brilliant. The Macedonians are and have always been Greeks, and the creation of a "Socialist Republic of Macedonia" with Skopje as capital is only a sad farce. I will not miss, when the opportunity arises, to pass this on.
In thanking you for having so kindly sent me your book, which has interested me even more, having myself written many works on Byzantium, I beg you to believe, dear Sir, by best feelings.
RENE GUERDAN

The referred Slavs were only "Serbian" and "Bulgarian"
The deliberately misleading use of the terms "Macedonians" and "Slavs" is exposed by two irrefutable Turkish documents. One is a population census of 1905, published by an Italian firm and the other is an election announcement of 1912 from Monastir (now Bitolj), which describes the candidates as Turks, Greeks, and Bulgarians. There was no such thing as "Macedonian" nationality during the Turkish period either. The referred Slavs were only "Serbian" and "Bulgarian"
(see Document No 10).
http://www.hri.org/Martis/contents/doc10.html

Ohrid:"Shepherd of the Bulgarians, remember the ruler Andronicos Palleologus, when sacrificing".
Shroud, XIII c.
Ochrid
Presented by the Emperor Andronicos II Palleologus (1282-1328) to the Ochrid Archbishop, inscribed with gold fibers: "Shepherd of the Bulgarians, remember the ruler Andronicos Palleologus, when sacrificing".

(National Museum of History, Sofia)




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A prosperous Bulgarian village among the hills.(BRUSNIK,NEAR MONASTIR)


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The archaeological findings are our CLAIMS...WHAT ARE YOURS?

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VARDAR-BULGARSKI!YOUR BULGARIAN HISTORY........
YOU, Bulgarian, in the name of the patriotism, freedom and saving your life, pay to the bearer of this invitation the sum of ...
Invitation from the central revolutionary commitee to all Bulgars in Skopje....


VMRO(BMPO) stamp in Bulgarian language..........


VMRO was first established in 1893 under the name of Bulgarian Macedono-Odrin Revolutionary Committee(BMPO).


The Bulgarian society in Skopje 1870 :


Bulgarian municipality - Prilep


Theophylacti Bulgariae archiepiscopi In omnes divi Pauli apostoli epistolas enarrationes
THEOPHYLACTUS, arcivescovo di Ochrida
http://www.comune.empoli.fi.it/biblioteca/CATALOGO/schede/sch785.html
http://www.comune.empoli.fi.it/biblioteca/CATALOGO/schede/front785.html

Theophylacti archiepiscopi Bulgariae In quator Evangelia enarrationes
THEOPHYLACTUS, arcivescovo di Ochrida
http://www.comune.empoli.fi.it/biblioteca/CATALOGO/schede/sch652.html
http://www.comune.empoli.fi.it/biblioteca/CATALOGO/schede/front652.html

Some villages have Serbian schools and some have Bulgarian schools.
"..in the towns Serbian schools can be found alongside the Bulgarian boys' and girls' elementary and grammar schools. Some villages have Serbian schools and some have Bulgarian schools. Some villagers, along with their teachers and priests, recognize the Patriarchate and come under the protection of the Serbian or Greek consul, while others recognize the Bulgarian Exarchate and place themselves under the authority of the Bulgarian trade representatives."-Misirkov Krste

MISIRKOV:"We are Bulgarian more than the Bulgarians in Bulgaria. The population of Skopje is pure Bulgarian.
"Our fathers, grandfathers, and great grandfathers have always been called Bulgarians"-Krste Misirkov

but what can we possibly do when we ourselves are Bulgarians .......
Text of Delcev's letter to Nikola Maleshevski:WE ARE BULGARIANS!
"Sofia, 01.05.1899, Kolyo, ... May the dissents and cleavages not frighten you. It is really a pity, but what can we possibly do when we ourselves are Bulgarians and all suffer from the same disease! If this disease had not existed in our forefathers who passed it on to us, we wouldn't have fallen under the ugly sceptre of the Turkish sultans..."


"We are Bulgarians and we always work and will work for the unification of the Bulgariandom."
-Dame Gruev (Director of the Bulgarian school in Stip).

" Respected representatives of the Bulgarian people, ....
Here is a excerpt from a letter written in 1861 by the people of Ohrid in protest to the arbitrariness of the Greek metropolite Meletius in which they insist on the restoration of the Ohrid Archbishopric closed back in 1767.
" Respected representatives of the Bulgarian people,
The undersigned inhabitants of Justiniana Prima or Ohrid, after seeing, on one hand, that regardless of all our hopes our common mother, the Great Church of Christ, did not pay attention to the petitions submitted to Her one after another in which we kindly beg Her to change Metropolite Meletius appointed against our will and requests, and ,on the other hand, informed that all our Bulgarian people is indignant with the same at the Great Church of Chris, considered it our inevitable duty to appoint you and recognize you, in accordance with our people, as our plenipotentiary representatives so you can petition, in the kindest fashion, the Sublime Porte to hear our our requests and deliver us from the arbitrariness of the Greek clergy by affirming the restoration of an autocephalous archbishopric of Ohridian Prima Justiniana and all Bulgaria....
April 9th, 1861
Prima Justiniana or Ohrid

There are no 'Macedonians'. There are Bulgars!
"Let me begin by correcting an almost universal fallacy. There are no 'Macedonians'. There are Bulgars. There are Roumans - the relics of the Latin-speaking provincials of Rome's Illyrian provinces, who still hold their own in the Pindus range and in the neighboring towns. There are Greeks, including more or less superficially Hellenized Roumans. There are 'Turks,' including Mohammedan Bulgarians, and some true Turkish villages in the Vardar valley representing a settlement earlier than the Ottoman conquest. There is an infusion of Skipetars or Albanians on the western and northern fringe. Finally, there is the large Spanish Jew population in Salonika. But there are no 'Macedonians'."
Sir Arthur J. Evans. English archaeologist.London Times, on September 30, 1903

STALIN:That a Macedonian consciousness has not yet developed among the population is of no account.
Otecestven Vestnik (Sofia daily), 19 June 1991
STALIN TO BULGARIAN DELEGATION
(G. Dimitrov, V. Kolarov, T. Kostov)
The Kremlin, 7 June 1946
Cultural autonomy must be granted to Pirin Macedonia within the framework of Bulgaria. Tito has shown himself more flexible than you - possibly because he lives in a multiethnic state and has had to give equal rights to the various peoples. Autonomy will be the first step towards the unification of Macedonia, but in view of the present situation there should be no hurry on this matter. Otherwise, in the eyes of the Macedonian people the whole mission of achieving Macedonian autonomy will remain with Tito and you will get the criticism. You seem to be afraid of Kimon Georgiev, you have involved yourselves too much with him and do not want to give autonomy to Pirin Macedonia. That a Macedonian consciousness has not yet developed among the population is of no account. No such consciousness existed in Byelorussia either when we proclaimed it a Soviet Republic. However, later it was shown that a Byelorussian people did in fact exist. ...

creation of a "Socialist Republic of Macedonia" with Skopje as capital is only a sad farce.
Dear Sir,
The magazine HISTORIA has just provided me with the very beautiful book that you so kindly sent me. I have first of all admired the presentation and then was struck by its contents.
Your thesis is brilliant. The Macedonians are and have always been Greeks, and the creation of a "Socialist Republic of Macedonia" with Skopje as capital is only a sad farce. I will not miss, when the opportunity arises, to pass this on.
In thanking you for having so kindly sent me your book, which has interested me even more, having myself written many works on Byzantium, I beg you to believe, dear Sir, by best feelings.
RENE GUERDAN

The referred Slavs were only "Serbian" and "Bulgarian"
The deliberately misleading use of the terms "Macedonians" and "Slavs" is exposed by two irrefutable Turkish documents. One is a population census of 1905, published by an Italian firm and the other is an election announcement of 1912 from Monastir (now Bitolj), which describes the candidates as Turks, Greeks, and Bulgarians. There was no such thing as "Macedonian" nationality during the Turkish period either. The referred Slavs were only "Serbian" and "Bulgarian"
(see Document No 10).
http://www.hri.org/Martis/contents/doc10.html

Ohrid:"Shepherd of the Bulgarians, remember the ruler Andronicos Palleologus, when sacrificing".
Shroud, XIII c.
Ochrid
Presented by the Emperor Andronicos II Palleologus (1282-1328) to the Ochrid Archbishop, inscribed with gold fibers: "Shepherd of the Bulgarians, remember the ruler Andronicos Palleologus, when sacrificing".

(National Museum of History, Sofia)




USKUB 1915: SKOPIANS!See to her your grandfathers....






A prosperous Bulgarian village among the hills.(BRUSNIK,NEAR MONASTIR)


MACEDONIA IS HELLENISM-NOT BULGARISM


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YOU, Bulgarian, in the name of the patriotism, freedom and saving your life, pay to the bearer of this invitation the sum of ...
Invitation from the central revolutionary commitee to all Bulgars in Skopje....


VMRO(BMPO) stamp in Bulgarian language..........


VMRO was first established in 1893 under the name of Bulgarian Macedono-Odrin Revolutionary Committee(BMPO).


The Bulgarian society in Skopje 1870 :


Bulgarian municipality - Prilep


Theophylacti Bulgariae archiepiscopi In omnes divi Pauli apostoli epistolas enarrationes
THEOPHYLACTUS, arcivescovo di Ochrida
http://www.comune.empoli.fi.it/biblioteca/CATALOGO/schede/sch785.html
http://www.comune.empoli.fi.it/biblioteca/CATALOGO/schede/front785.html

Theophylacti archiepiscopi Bulgariae In quator Evangelia enarrationes
THEOPHYLACTUS, arcivescovo di Ochrida
http://www.comune.empoli.fi.it/biblioteca/CATALOGO/schede/sch652.html
http://www.comune.empoli.fi.it/biblioteca/CATALOGO/schede/front652.html

Some villages have Serbian schools and some have Bulgarian schools.
"..in the towns Serbian schools can be found alongside the Bulgarian boys' and girls' elementary and grammar schools. Some villages have Serbian schools and some have Bulgarian schools. Some villagers, along with their teachers and priests, recognize the Patriarchate and come under the protection of the Serbian or Greek consul, while others recognize the Bulgarian Exarchate and place themselves under the authority of the Bulgarian trade representatives."-Misirkov Krste

MISIRKOV:"We are Bulgarian more than the Bulgarians in Bulgaria. The population of Skopje is pure Bulgarian.
"Our fathers, grandfathers, and great grandfathers have always been called Bulgarians"-Krste Misirkov

but what can we possibly do when we ourselves are Bulgarians .......
Text of Delcev's letter to Nikola Maleshevski:WE ARE BULGARIANS!
"Sofia, 01.05.1899, Kolyo, ... May the dissents and cleavages not frighten you. It is really a pity, but what can we possibly do when we ourselves are Bulgarians and all suffer from the same disease! If this disease had not existed in our forefathers who passed it on to us, we wouldn't have fallen under the ugly sceptre of the Turkish sultans..."


"We are Bulgarians and we always work and will work for the unification of the Bulgariandom."
-Dame Gruev (Director of the Bulgarian school in Stip).

" Respected representatives of the Bulgarian people, ....
Here is a excerpt from a letter written in 1861 by the people of Ohrid in protest to the arbitrariness of the Greek metropolite Meletius in which they insist on the restoration of the Ohrid Archbishopric closed back in 1767.
" Respected representatives of the Bulgarian people,
The undersigned inhabitants of Justiniana Prima or Ohrid, after seeing, on one hand, that regardless of all our hopes our common mother, the Great Church of Christ, did not pay attention to the petitions submitted to Her one after another in which we kindly beg Her to change Metropolite Meletius appointed against our will and requests, and ,on the other hand, informed that all our Bulgarian people is indignant with the same at the Great Church of Chris, considered it our inevitable duty to appoint you and recognize you, in accordance with our people, as our plenipotentiary representatives so you can petition, in the kindest fashion, the Sublime Porte to hear our our requests and deliver us from the arbitrariness of the Greek clergy by affirming the restoration of an autocephalous archbishopric of Ohridian Prima Justiniana and all Bulgaria....
April 9th, 1861
Prima Justiniana or Ohrid

There are no 'Macedonians'. There are Bulgars!
"Let me begin by correcting an almost universal fallacy. There are no 'Macedonians'. There are Bulgars. There are Roumans - the relics of the Latin-speaking provincials of Rome's Illyrian provinces, who still hold their own in the Pindus range and in the neighboring towns. There are Greeks, including more or less superficially Hellenized Roumans. There are 'Turks,' including Mohammedan Bulgarians, and some true Turkish villages in the Vardar valley representing a settlement earlier than the Ottoman conquest. There is an infusion of Skipetars or Albanians on the western and northern fringe. Finally, there is the large Spanish Jew population in Salonika. But there are no 'Macedonians'."
Sir Arthur J. Evans. English archaeologist.London Times, on September 30, 1903

STALIN:That a Macedonian consciousness has not yet developed among the population is of no account.
Otecestven Vestnik (Sofia daily), 19 June 1991
STALIN TO BULGARIAN DELEGATION
(G. Dimitrov, V. Kolarov, T. Kostov)
The Kremlin, 7 June 1946
Cultural autonomy must be granted to Pirin Macedonia within the framework of Bulgaria. Tito has shown himself more flexible than you - possibly because he lives in a multiethnic state and has had to give equal rights to the various peoples. Autonomy will be the first step towards the unification of Macedonia, but in view of the present situation there should be no hurry on this matter. Otherwise, in the eyes of the Macedonian people the whole mission of achieving Macedonian autonomy will remain with Tito and you will get the criticism. You seem to be afraid of Kimon Georgiev, you have involved yourselves too much with him and do not want to give autonomy to Pirin Macedonia. That a Macedonian consciousness has not yet developed among the population is of no account. No such consciousness existed in Byelorussia either when we proclaimed it a Soviet Republic. However, later it was shown that a Byelorussian people did in fact exist. ...

creation of a "Socialist Republic of Macedonia" with Skopje as capital is only a sad farce.
Dear Sir,
The magazine HISTORIA has just provided me with the very beautiful book that you so kindly sent me. I have first of all admired the presentation and then was struck by its contents.
Your thesis is brilliant. The Macedonians are and have always been Greeks, and the creation of a "Socialist Republic of Macedonia" with Skopje as capital is only a sad farce. I will not miss, when the opportunity arises, to pass this on.
In thanking you for having so kindly sent me your book, which has interested me even more, having myself written many works on Byzantium, I beg you to believe, dear Sir, by best feelings.
RENE GUERDAN

The referred Slavs were only "Serbian" and "Bulgarian"
The deliberately misleading use of the terms "Macedonians" and "Slavs" is exposed by two irrefutable Turkish documents. One is a population census of 1905, published by an Italian firm and the other is an election announcement of 1912 from Monastir (now Bitolj), which describes the candidates as Turks, Greeks, and Bulgarians. There was no such thing as "Macedonian" nationality during the Turkish period either. The referred Slavs were only "Serbian" and "Bulgarian"
(see Document No 10).
http://www.hri.org/Martis/contents/doc10.html

Ohrid:"Shepherd of the Bulgarians, remember the ruler Andronicos Palleologus, when sacrificing".
Shroud, XIII c.
Ochrid
Presented by the Emperor Andronicos II Palleologus (1282-1328) to the Ochrid Archbishop, inscribed with gold fibers: "Shepherd of the Bulgarians, remember the ruler Andronicos Palleologus, when sacrificing".

(National Museum of History, Sofia)




USKUB 1915: SKOPIANS!See to her your grandfathers....






A prosperous Bulgarian village among the hills.(BRUSNIK,NEAR MONASTIR)


MACEDONIA IS HELLENISM-NOT BULGARISM


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