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A message board dedicated to the discussion of Horror Films, as well as a place for Horror fans to meet, make friends and trade information. Use it often, visit as much as you like and be sure that you will NOT be censored on here - ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS JOIN THE HORROR ELITE by going to http://network54.com/Hide/Group/6243 and following the directions. Once you have become a member of The Horror Elite, you can post here. You then do NOT have to post your e-mail. Your real name is also NOT required, many people use nicknames - but feel free to use your real name if you want, as it makes it easier for us to all get to know one another. I want this to be a place where people can be free and be themselves WITHOUT FEAR of being insulted and ridiculed. Horror fans are always slammed and snickered at and told to "grow up" or "get a life" and they are many times treated bad from their peers. They are made fun of and tormented for who they are. NOT HERE. They can feel at ease in being the real person inside. I am not here to judge and I will not allow others to do this. I want all people posting here to be free and know that they can be real and post anything without fear of retribution.


Hello everyone

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I am new to this place, but I have been to the website a many times over the last 4 months. I searched for zombies one day and this site came up. I had read a bit about Todd and his movies in magazines like Draculina and Psychotronic Video, but had never seen one until recently when I ordered Violent New Breed and The Shivers. I am glad I did. I decided to join you all to show my support to a guy that seems to really love this. He takes on the people out there who try and take our freedom of choice away, he fights for us all, he makes pretty good zero budget epics (at least the two I have seen) and he cares enough to keep inproving this site. I am behind this 100%. Thank you, Mr. Sheets. Hail!

Posted on Jun 29, 1999, 4:48 AM

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DRASTIC ALTERATIONS!

by Ron

If you want to find out some of the drastic alterations done to George A. Romero's classic "Night of the Living Dead", check out www.homepageofthedead.com. Look under Night 30th. I was so shocked and pissed off at the changes that the cult classic would undergo that I nearly broke my computer screen.

Posted on Jun 27, 1999, 8:31 PM

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ugh

by Lady Betty

it's sacrilege i tell ya! sacrilege!

Posted on Jun 27, 1999, 10:19 PM

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WHY???!!!

by Ron

Why are they doing this to one of the greatest horror films ever made? I'm referring to George A. Romero's cult classic "Night of the Living Dead". For the 30th Anniversary of the film, co-creator John Russo plans on inserting scenes which would "explain" the film's plot better. Huh? Am I missing something? What the hell would it benefit a masterpiece like "Night of the Living Dead" to have the plot "explained"??!! It's great the way it is. Why are they doing this? Well, count me out. I'll always be a fan of the original and refuse to see a revamped version.

Posted on Jun 26, 1999, 3:57 PM

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WHY???!!!

by Lady Betty

OH NO!!!! That's one of my favorite movies of all time!!! What the hell is the deal??? The plot and stuff was all explained throughout the movie, within the news broadcasts they listened to on the radio, which explained about the radiation stuff from space causing the dead to come back to life. What more explanation do you need? Radiation causes the dead to zombify, they start eating people, people fight back, kill the zombies, end of movie. DUH! It's a great movie! IF SOMETHING AIN'T BROKE, DON'T FIX IT! Leave it alone!!! PLEASE!

Posted on Jun 27, 1999, 4:32 AM

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Greed

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The reason for this is greed. More ways for people who can think of nothing better to do than to rape more fans of this film. How many remasters, re-issues and remakes do we need? None. Boycott this idiocy.

Posted on Jun 27, 1999, 5:40 AM

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greed

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The reason for this is greed. More ways for people who can think of nothing better to do than to rape more fans of this film. How many remasters, re-issues and remakes do we need? None. Boycott this pancake.

Posted on Jun 28, 1999, 5:00 PM

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not to mention sequels..

by Zorsha

..another waste of movie goers money. Unless it involved an ongoing saga, like star wars, star trek, aliens, etc. Crap like the countless Friday the 13th movies,(part 25-jason gets a boner and cuts it off) Scream, (scream 3 times and say, there's no place like Wes Craven's bank account)I know what you did Last Summer(with that big-tity-bitch from Orgy of Five). Even Hellraiser 4 was a big dissapointment, as was Halloween 4, 5, and the oh-so-dawnson's-creek-smothered-Jamie-lee-curtis-doesn't even show-any-cleavage-in-this-one- H20(deer park, that's a crappy movie!)
Where is the origionality? Where's the suspense? the gore? The nobody actors? The fucking script for christ's sake!! Where is the Texas chain saw massacres of the 90's? Where are the George Romeros and Clive Barker's of our time?
Oh yeah - it's Todd Sheets-forgot about ya dude, ehehehhe.

Posted on Jun 29, 1999, 11:25 AM

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WHERE HAVE ALL THE GOOD SCARES GONE???!!!

by Ron

With all due respect to Hollywood and the Independents, I think that 95% of current horror films are awful. The 90s is by far the worst decade for horror films. There are far too many teen orientated horror flicks if you ask me. Enough is enough. I'm sick of these live action Scooby-Doo films, which do nothing but make the horror genre look like a joke. At least the 80s gave us a variety of adult horror films such as "Hellraiser", "Henry:Portrait of a Serial Killer", and "Angel Heart". One more thing...I've had enough of these articial, totally phony looking computer generated effects... GIVE ME THE OLD TIME PROSTHETICS ANYDAY OF THE WEEK!!!

Posted on Jun 23, 1999, 2:45 PM

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godfather

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i'm mad THEY ARE MAKING GODFATHER 4 WITH DICAPRIO

Posted on Jun 23, 1999, 3:55 PM

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Godfather

by Lady Betty

EWWWWWWWWWW!!!!! NOT HIM!!!!!! THEY'VE RUINED IT!!!!!

Posted on Jun 23, 1999, 6:25 PM

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shit.....

by Zorsha

ain't he a little young to be a godfather? I mean, i dont think he has hit puberty yet, lol!!!

Posted on Jun 24, 1999, 11:38 AM

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IMMMMM CORRECTION ZORSHA

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IMMM Correction, most people hit puberty between 12 and 16, in mike ancherani's case, 45. But li'l leo is in his 20's so your theory is incorrect.



j/k this is brunch dog, he probably hasn't yet.

Posted on Jun 24, 1999, 8:56 PM

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WHERE HAVE ALL THE GOOD SCARES GONE???!!!

by Lady Betty

I tip my hat to you Ron. I agree 100%

Posted on Jun 23, 1999, 6:26 PM

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Good one Ron

by Mike The Madman

I also agree, but the sad truth is that Hollywood is lazy and cheap. I am glad The Thing isn't made today, slime just isn't realistic in digital. That's why I still seek out older Italian and underground Horror and movies like Todd's that actually still show some old fashioned gore.

Posted on Jun 24, 1999, 4:45 AM

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More horror talk..

by Zorsha

...HORROR, HORROR, HORROR,WHERE THE HELL ARE TODD'S BIKER BABES,HORROR, STAB STAB SLIPPING AROUND ON SOMEONE'S GUTS, GRUESOME GORE, BLOOD DRIPPING, BLOB-EATING, DAMMIT ILL MAKE NEVE CAMPBELL SCREAM SO MUCH SHE'LL NEVER DO A STUPID 90'S BRAT PACK FLUFFY HORROR FILM AGAIN, HORROR, HORROR, HORROR, THE HORROR OF KNOWING WHAT YOU DID LAST SUMMER WAS NO SWEAT OFF MY NADS, HORROR, HORROR, SCREAMS, THRILLS, CHILLS, SPILLS...I'VE RUN OUT OF THINGS TO SAY...TALK TO YOU LATER.

Posted on Jun 23, 1999, 8:41 AM

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More horror talk

by Lady Betty

OK. Despite the fact that Todd absolutely HATES politically correctness, let's see if I can respond to my girl's message without offending anyone and without sounding lame. Zorsha, you are too funny. That message made me laugh so hard, I'm still in stitches. HA HA HA

LAME!!!!!! FUCK THIS SHIT! Man, Todd said this board would not be censored, so why the hell can't we fucking curse once in a while, especially when dealing with something as totally WACKO as Zorsha's message!

Bitch! You're crazy! I love it! AAAAAHHAAHHAHAHHAHAHHAHA

Posted on Jun 23, 1999, 6:20 PM

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well tanx...

by Zorsha

nice to know I got a laugh out of somebody, lol!!
I AM THE GRREAT ZORSHAHOLIO!! ARE YOU THREATENING ME? DO YOU HAVE TP? TP FOR MY BUNGHOLE....IS THIS NIGARAGUA? I WILL TAKE THIS BOARD FOR MY BUNGHOLE!!BUNHOLIO! FANGHOLIO..BLOODHOLIOLIOLIO.....

ahhh, I needed that- now I feel better:)
Z.

Posted on Jun 24, 1999, 11:35 AM

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Ummmm. OK

by Lady Betty

Is there a doctor in the house???

Posted on Jun 24, 1999, 6:29 PM

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Violent New Breed

by Tomboy (Tom Baxton)

How many of you have seen Violent New Breed? I finally got it in two days ago and have watched it twice. I was in shock at what was done on such a low budget and on the impact the film had on me. I was replulsed, shocked, disturbed and had the best time I have had watching a film in a long time. Just wondering what you all thought of it. I thought the editing, shooting and lighting were all top-level stuff. I also liked the story and the disturbing use of images and subliminals. Very cool. I will post a review after I watch it again. I am still trying to find all the hidden in-jokes and sub-plots.

Posted on Jun 22, 1999, 10:29 PM

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VNB

by Lady Betty

Damn. I liked that one. Like I said to Todd, I found it more funny than scary, and all he could do was laugh. It was pretty cool. The story-line is very good though and, who would have thought, the anti-christ being born a GIRL??? Crazy!

Posted on Jun 23, 1999, 12:09 AM

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VNB rules

by Mike The Madman

I found some dialogue funny, but the film itself had some very disturbing stuff in it, like the suicide part and the double dream. The birth of the full size girl, the "angel" appearing, the flesh art stuff. It was one of the most original Horror films I have seen, I can honestly say that. It had somoe great effects. The "feel" was incredible. I loved it. I was entertained from the first minute to the last. Great job, Todd!

Posted on Jun 24, 1999, 4:42 AM

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Violent New Breed?

by Tina Widham

I thought it was pretty good in parts, but the stanic overtones almost ruined it for me, I mean, I don't think it had to have all those satanic images and subliminal flashes in there. It is a shame because it proves you have talent and prefer to throw it away on satanic crap.

Posted on Jun 26, 1999, 6:05 AM

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VNB

by Lady Betty

Umm...Hello??? Haven't you noticed the title of this message board? It's called "The Extreme Ultimate HORROR Board"!!! Do you know what type of movies Extreme Entertainment makes? YES, HORROR MOVIES!!! Guess what horror is comprised of, Tina Windham. Yes, it is comprised of monsters, gory stuff, bloody stuff, ghosts, ghouls, vampires, zombies, demons, and YES!!! EVEN SATANISM!!! So get off Todd's back for giving VNB "satanic images and subliminal flashes in there" because if anything, without it, the movie would SUCK!

Posted on Jun 26, 1999, 12:22 PM

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Tina - you misguided girl

by Rotal Pain

Are you crazy girl? Violent New Breed is fucking RAW, man! It's a twisted ride in "fuck you" territory from a master of modern Horror. I loved it. From the rude way the demons talked to the priest getting his throat slashed to0 the crazy woman giving birth to the little girl, I thought it kicked ass. And without Satanic refferences, there would be no movie! It's about demons who are taking over New York and mate with human women to pop out these "new creatures" known as the Violent New Breed. Duh.

>So get off Todd's back for giving VNB "satanic images and subliminal flashes in there" because if anything, without it, the movie would SUCK!<

Lady Betty, even without the satanic images and stuff, even if these were vampires or something, the film would still kick ass. But because they are demons, the satanic thing has to be in there.

Posted on Jun 26, 1999, 1:34 PM

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Tina - you misguided girl

by Lady Betty

Oops! My mistake. I didn't mean for that to come out that way. I did mean to say though, pretty much what you said. That without the satanic references and stuff, the movie would really have no meaning behind it, because it IS about satanic stuff, and otherwise, it would make no sense, ergo, the "suck" reference. See? Cool? awwwwllllrighty then! :o)

Posted on Jun 27, 1999, 4:28 AM

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My opinion

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OK - Violent New Breed won't change the face of movies, nor will it win an oscar. It won't make you kill your family and it won't give you nightmares, but it WILL entertain you. This movie has won a few awards from what I have read. It deserves them all. It has changed my opinion of zero budget video movies. If they all were this ambitious, this caring and this fun to watch, people would not slam on zero budget stuff as much. I have been burned by so much crap like "Killer Nerd" and "Midnight 2" that I all but gave up on zero budget backyard movies like these. After reading about this one in a few magazines and on this website, I finally gave it a chance. I am glad I did. Some of it is over-ambitious and doesn't quite come out perfect, but in most ways, this is a perfect zero budget gem. Good work to all involved and a tip of the old baseball cap is in order. You have renewed my faith in zero budget epics.

Posted on Jun 29, 1999, 4:44 AM

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HELL-O

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hi , i have a question for everybody. now, if u had to choose, which type of horror movie would u want to watch,
a movie that's mostly based on monsters and characters that are frightening
or a horror film which isnt as visually exciting to watch , but the idea and the main point of the movie scares the crap out of you

Posted on Jun 21, 1999, 3:23 PM

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Hell-O

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Woah, that's a totally loaded question. I like gory movies, and movies where there are monsters and stuff, BUT - the movies that scare me the most are those which you cannot see your enemy, movies dealing with demonic possession, ghosts and the like. The Exorcist, The Entity, and movies like that scared the shit outta me growing up, because although you knew there was an enemy - you couldn't see them, you couldn't shoot them, you couldn't stab them, you couldn't tear them to pieces by blowing them up, there was nothing you could do. They could have their way with you and those around you and there was nothing anyone could do to stop it. THAT'S the type of movie I like.

Posted on Jun 21, 1999, 8:59 PM

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Jell-o

by Zorsha

Halloween-my all-time favorite-scary without being bloody or terribly violent(not that that isn't fun either) and Carrie -gives me the creeps even though ive seen it about a 1000 times, lol!!.
I also agree with what Betty said.

Posted on Jun 22, 1999, 8:45 AM

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Hell-o?

by Tomboy (Tom Baxton)

I say both. I like a combo of both types of films. I like that idea. I like movies that have a visual flair. I like flashy editing and fast action and lots of gore, but I also want creepy parts and scary sections. I like The Shivers that I ordered after seing this page because it has both parts in one movie. It is one of Todd's best.

Posted on Jun 22, 1999, 10:25 PM

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rancid

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yo this is tim armstrong again... lars is out so i
went on the com and searched for ZOMBIE BLOODBOAT.COM and is this place cool. Sorry bout calling you Todd Sheets, it's Tom, i'll remember. I ordered this ZOMBIE BLOODBATH movie and Matt and Brett loved it. Lars' fav movie is ZOMBIE so he'll love it. Our next album is gonna have a song about this great movie

c-ya in the pit

Tim

Posted on Jun 19, 1999, 6:27 PM

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Yo, Rancid!

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You guys are great and all - but my name is TODD - hehehe - too many moshes CAN have a negative effect... great tunes by the way!

Posted on Jun 20, 1999, 12:47 AM

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Untitled

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i just want to say that all of the psycho movies are the best horror movies of all time!

Posted on Jun 18, 1999, 7:06 PM

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Simply Incredible

by Mike

this is a much better board Todd, I love it. the Horror Under Attack area is the first place I go now and it is a very informative and moving place to visit. The letter from the victim's Dad made me feel his tragedy. Keep us the great work and I will be coming back. One thing though: MORE GORE! Oh, I really enjoyed Zombie Blodbath 2 and will review it here this week if I get a chance. I watched it twice!

Posted on Jun 7, 1999, 4:41 AM

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Slime City

by Blue Eyes

Found this movie for sale at a video store and thought you guys should watch it. It is a gross one. There is a lot of goop and slime and gore and stuff in it. Has anyone else seen it?

Posted on Jun 6, 1999, 3:13 PM

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I have witnessed the slime

by Mike the Maniac

You won't belive this Blue Eyes, but Todd himself forced me to watch this one. The decapitations and stomach rippings are great and it has some great effects, but the story is lame and never really made much sense to me.

Posted on Jun 12, 1999, 5:01 PM

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let's go

by rancid

yo this is tim and lars from the band rancid. awesome web page tom sheets!

Posted on Jun 12, 1999, 9:11 PM

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RANCID!

by Mike

Wow guys your music is radical, but the guy's name is TODD Sheets, not TOM..hehehe! All those long hours tourinig must be causing you some fatigue!

Posted on Jun 14, 1999, 4:44 AM

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The reason

by Blue Eyes

Wise men say only fools rush in
but I can't help falling in love with you
Shall I stay
would it be a sin
If I can't help falling in love with you
Like a river flows surely to the sea
Darling so it goes
some things are meant to be
take my hand, take my whole life too
for I can't help falling in love with you

I'd go anywhere for you
Anywhere you asked me to
I'd do anything for you
Anything you want me to
I'd walk halfway around the world
For just one kiss from you
Far beyond the call of love
The sun, the stars, the moon
As long as your love's there to lead me
I won't lose my way, believe me
Even trough the darkest night you know

Posted on Jun 6, 1999, 3:08 PM

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ya know something...

by Zorsha

I think blue eyes just does this to get a rise out of everyone- I suggest to all not to bother responding, ehhee:)

Posted on Jun 8, 1999, 2:44 PM

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In some ways you are right...

by Blue Eyes

But the only rise I wanna get is from Todd.

Posted on Jun 9, 1999, 3:01 AM

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The new board

by Blue Eyes

Hi guys. I love the new look it is great. I hope I did not cause you to change it. I love reading all the posts. Todd, you giant monster, I still adore you gorgeous. I will get the nerve to write you one day. I promise.

Posted on Jun 6, 1999, 1:50 AM

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here we go again.

by Anonymous

Did you even bother reading the message he put up where it explains that the board was changed because the other one would lose messages and near the end of May, messages couldn't even be accessed? Damn, I don't get you, you claim to be such a big fan, yet you don't pay attention to what you're reading...if you're reading it at all.

Posted on Jun 6, 1999, 2:00 AM

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here we go again

by Blue Eyes

You, my online adversary, can bite me.

Posted on Jun 6, 1999, 3:10 PM

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here we go again

by Anonymous

My dear, I'd rather not...I might catch something. BAAHAHAHHAHAHA

Posted on Jun 6, 1999, 5:20 PM

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yeah really...

by Zorsha

what a horrid thought, ugh!!!

Posted on Jun 8, 1999, 2:42 PM

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read this...

by Zorsha

..in case you havent already- its Marilyn Manson writing something regarding the colorado shootings. Very smart guy.


Columbine: Whose Fault Is It?




I don't like the media, but the media likes me.


by Marilyn Manson

It is sad to think that the first few people on earth needed no books, movies, games or music to inspire cold-blooded murder. The day that Cain bashed his brother Abel's brains in, the only motivation he needed was his own human disposition to violence. Whether you interpret the Bible as literature or as the final word of whatever God may be, Christianity has given us an image of death and sexuality that we have based our culture around. A half-naked dead man hangs in most homes and around our necks, and we have just taken that for granted all our lives. Is it a symbol of hope or hopelessness? The world's most famous murder-suicide was also the birth of the death icon -- the blueprint for celebrity. Unfortunately, for all of their inspiring morality, nowhere in the Gospels is intelligence praised as a virtue.
A lot of people forget or never realize that I started my band as a criticism of these very issues of despair and hypocrisy. The name Marilyn Manson has never celebrated the sad fact that America puts killers on the cover of Time magazine, giving them as much notoriety as our favorite movie stars. From Jesse James to Charles Manson, the media, since their inception, have turned criminals into folk heroes. They just created two new ones when they plastered those dipshits Dylan Klebold and Eric Harris' pictures on the front of every newspaper. Don't be surprised if every kid who gets pushed around has two new idols.

We applaud the creation of a bomb whose sole purpose is to destroy all of mankind, and we grow up watching our president's brains splattered all over Texas. Times have not become more violent. They have just become more televised. Does anyone think the Civil War was the least bit civil? If television had existed, you could be sure they would have been there to cover it, or maybe even participate in it, like their violent car chase of Princess Di. Disgusting vultures looking for corpses, exploiting, fucking, filming and serving it up for our hungry appetites in a gluttonous display of endless human stupidity.

When it comes down to who's to blame for the high school murders in Littleton, Colorado, throw a rock and you'll hit someone who's guilty. We're the people who sit back and tolerate children owning guns, and we're the ones who tune in and watch the up-to-the-minute details of what they do with them. I think it's terrible when anyone dies, especially if it is someone you know and love. But what is more offensive is that when these tragedies happen, most people don't really care any more than they would about the season finale of Friends or The Real World. I was dumbfounded as I watched the media snake right in, not missing a teardrop, interviewing the parents of dead children, televising the funerals. Then came the witch hunt.

Man's greatest fear is chaos. It was unthinkable that these kids did not have a simple black-and-white reason for their actions. And so a scapegoat was needed. I remember hearing the initial reports from Littleton, that Harris and Klebold were wearing makeup and were dressed like Marilyn Manson, whom they obviously must worship, since they were dressed in black. Of course, speculation snowballed into making me the poster boy for everything that is bad in the world. These two idiots weren't wearing makeup, and they weren't dressed like me or like goths. Since Middle America has not heard of the music they did listen to (KMFDM and Rammstein, among others), the media picked something they thought was similar.

Responsible journalists have reported with less publicity that Harris and Klebold were not Marilyn Manson fans -- that they even disliked my music. Even if they were fans, that gives them no excuse, nor does it mean that music is to blame. Did we look for James Huberty's inspiration when he gunned down people at McDonald's? What did Timothy McVeigh like to watch? What about David Koresh, Jim Jones? Do you think entertainment inspired Kip Kinkel, or should we blame the fact that his father bought him the guns he used in the Springfield, Oregon, murders? What inspires Bill Clinton to blow people up in Kosovo? Was it something that Monica Lewinsky said to him? Isn't killing just killing, regardless if it's in Vietnam or Jonesboro, Arkansas? Why do we justify one, just because it seems to be for the right reasons? Should there ever be a right reason? If a kid is old enough to drive a car or buy a gun, isn't he old enough to be held personally responsible for what he does with his car or gun? Or if he's a teenager, should someone else be blamed because he isn't as enlightened as an eighteen-year-old?

America loves to find an icon to hang its guilt on. But, admittedly, I have assumed the role of Antichrist; I am the Nineties voice of individuality, and people tend to associate anyone who looks and behaves differently with illegal or immoral activity. Deep down, most adults hate people who go against the grain. It's comical that people are naive enough to have forgotten Elvis, Jim Morrison and Ozzy so quickly. All of them were subjected to the same age-old arguments, scrutiny and prejudice. I wrote a song called "Lunchbox," and some journalists have interpreted it as a song about guns. Ironically, the song is about being picked on and fighting back with my Kiss lunch box, which I used as a weapon on the playground. In 1979, metal lunch boxes were banned because they were considered dangerous weapons in the hands of delinquents. I also wrote a song called "Get Your Gunn." The title is spelled with two n's because the song was a reaction to the murder of Dr. David Gunn, who was killed in Florida by pro-life activists while I was living there. That was the ultimate hypocrisy I witnessed growing up: that these people killed someone in the name of being "pro-life."

The somewhat positive messages of these songs are usually the ones that sensationalists misinterpret as promoting the very things I am decrying. Right now, everyone is thinking of how they can prevent things like Littleton. How do you prevent AIDS, world war, depression, car crashes? We live in a free country, but with that freedom there is a burden of personal responsibility. Rather than teaching a child what is moral and immoral, right and wrong, we first and foremost can establish what the laws that govern us are. You can always escape hell by not believing in it, but you cannot escape death and you cannot escape prison.

It is no wonder that kids are growing up more cynical; they have a lot of information in front of them. They can see that they are living in a world that's made of bullshit. In the past, there was always the idea that you could turn and run and start something better. But now America has become one big mall, and because of the Internet and all of the technology we have, there's nowhere to run. People are the same everywhere. Sometimes music, movies and books are the only things that let us feel like someone else feels like we do. I've always tried to let people know it's OK, or better, if you don't fit into the program. Use your imagination -- if some geek from Ohio can become something, why can't anyone else with the willpower and creativity?

I chose not to jump into the media frenzy and defend myself, though I was begged to be on every single TV show in existence. I didn't want to contribute to these fame-seeking journalists and opportunists looking to fill their churches or to get elected because of their self-righteous finger-pointing. They want to blame entertainment? Isn't religion the first real entertainment? People dress up in costumes, sing songs and dedicate themselves in eternal fandom. Everyone will agree that nothing was more entertaining than Clinton shooting off his prick and then his bombs in true political form. And the news -- that's obvious. So is entertainment to blame? I'd like media commentators to ask themselves, because their coverage of the event was some of the most gruesome entertainment any of us have seen.

I think that the National Rifle Association is far too powerful to take on, so most people choose Doom, The Basketball Diaries or yours truly. This kind of controversy does not help me sell records or tickets, and I wouldn't want it to. I'm a controversial artist, one who dares to have an opinion and bothers to create music and videos that challenge people's ideas in a world that is watered-down and hollow. In my work I examine the America we live in, and I've always tried to show people that the devil we blame our atrocities on is really just each one of us. So don't expect the end of the world to come one day out of the blue -- it's been happening every day for a long time.

MARILYN MANSON
(May 28, 1999)

Posted on Jun 4, 1999, 11:55 AM

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Yeah, what he said

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I, personally, don't like Manson one tiny bit....but I read this earlier today at rollingstone.com and I have to say it was really well done. I liked his angle...for the most part...and agree with him largely. I applaud him for being so high profile and intellengently vocal about this issue. Great stuff...hope he keeps that up...

Dizz

Posted on Jun 4, 1999, 1:49 PM

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Very smart.

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Damn Gringa, I don't know where you found this, and I'm not a fan of this person, but what he says makes so much sense, it's scary. I tip my hat to you man. Good going.

Posted on Jun 4, 1999, 6:59 PM

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where the bloody hell is everybody?

by Zorsha

ever since the board was changed, everyone has dissapeared- except for Mr. T and the portreecan, ehehehhe. HEY everybody!!! come and leave a message, okeyday? Meesa is bored, meesa lonely, yousa come an a talk to me, okeyday? ;P

Posted on Jun 4, 1999, 11:09 AM

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LOL

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You are one sick broad Gringa! I can't stop laughing over here!!!! ahhahhahahhahahahhahhahhhahhaahahahah

Posted on Jun 4, 1999, 6:51 PM

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well let's fill this board...

by Zorsha

...with bullshit, lol!! heheheeheh!! my sacred haven is back!! How I luuuuuuuuvvvvvvvvvvv my little horror home....hey, where is FAT CHERRY BOMB? I need to laugh!!

Posted on Jun 3, 1999, 6:56 AM

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It's about time!

by Lady Betty

Damn...it's about time dude. I told you let's go with these guys a long time ago...but noooooo, you had to go and choose that other crap. hehehe

Let's hope this one works out! :o)

See ya.

Posted on Jun 3, 1999, 6:54 AM

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It's new, It's now, It's what the public wants!

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The new and improved Horror Board - I am sure you will find this a better board - with a better style, attitude and a cool look. The last board was a pain, with posts disappearing and during the last week of May, we could not even access any postings to reply to! It was a mess and after numerous attempts to get it fixed, we decided to go with someone else. So here you go - now use it and abuse it and make it smack Yoda with a leather strap and have a blast with it you Horror fans! Let's make this the biggest and best board on the web!!!!!

your pal
Todd

Posted on Jun 3, 1999, 6:53 AM

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Finally

by Lady Betty

It's about time dude. I told you let's go with this one a long time ago, but noooo, you went with those other knuckleheads. Anyway, I hope this one works.

See ya!

Posted on Jun 3, 1999, 7:01 AM

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Told you so....

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Yeah - you told me, that board was a mess. But I notice that people were using it, and I would get some e-mails about losing threads and/or messages, so now I hope that will be fixed. I want everyone to post here and I hope people can trade and find rare videos and all kinds of great stuff!

Posted on Jun 3, 1999, 7:05 AM

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