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I tore apart my rearend to weld it up for posi, but I'm not really sure how to do it?? I pulled the carrier out, unbolted the ring gear and split the carrier apart. Once inside, I can see four separate gears. This is different than anything I've worked on before so I'm not sure how to go about welding it up for posi. Is it easier than what I am thinking because right now I am confused?? Anyone happen to know how to go about this?? Pictures would be nice, but I'm assuming they might be scarce.
If the four gears on are on a cross you can weld them to it. You have to be carefull and do it so that it will all fit back inside the carrier. I have done 14 bolts and dana 80 posi's this way and it works good.
Now there three ways you can do this. one would be to weld the side gears to the cross like the first guys says. I like to mark the side gears and weld the gear tooth on each side of the gears to make them jam up when tried to turn, or the last way I seen is put the side gear in the carrier and weld the whole gear right to the carrier. just have to make dam sure it's centered when done this way.
We usually weld the axle gear to carrier(more area), I had one break that had just the teeth welded. Either way you need to be a good welder to do it right, and for it to hold up.
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Re: Welding Up H072..Need Help
March 18 2008, 4:29 PM
The four gears are not on a cross, they are each spread out on separate ends of the carrier. It is completely different than the Dana 60 and Sterling that we welded up before. It's hard to explain, but if anyone has ever had one of these carriers split apart, they should know what I am talking about.
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what i like to do
March 25 2008, 11:44 AM
is like Dan said. Get a good layout and markit, double triple check.
Weld in the valley of every gear. And don't weld anything together. This in itself will prevent turning, but you might have a little slop. But all you want is for both axles to turn slop is not an issue. I saw a blower truck that had just lead, it had alot of slop, but the i think, opinion only, things to solid break. The lead acted like small cushion i think putting less stress on the overall. I have always still welded the valleys though.
If you can with it together, shoot some paint on the gears without letting anything turn, this will help you with it apart know what is not contacting. If you still have doubts, goto the dollar store and get some playdough, put it where you think you should weld, then put it together and see if it was right.
Then put it all together and look it over good to figure out the best way to fill it with lead. What i have done before is melt down wheel weights and pour into bars of any kind. Heat the carrier up some so lead wont go solid right off.
then take the torch and just heat the bar and let the lead run into the carrier. On some you can do this for different areas to make sure you get it full and into the little places.
If it cools and dont run, put the torch to it.
We tried heating and scooping but it was easier just heating the bar and letting it drip.
coat the splines with grease and insert axles to keep splines clean.
I think the lead give a good solid chunk by itself no welding, and it is soft enough that any stray should kill anything. Plus you can get it off splines and such if you do mess up.