Finally making some noticable progress. The "new" divorced tcase is now hanging under the truck and the hood was put on a diet.
The hood was actually pretty easy. I used my air nibbler and went around the outside, then gently pulled up on each corner and the glue released. Then I had to cut out a piece of metal that was spot welded under the latch area. Then I just lifted out the entire center section.

Now all I need is my engine builder to quit working on the drag racers junk and get my motor freshened so I can put it back in and finish the project up.

Alan

Heres the pics ???

Draggin, you got pics??? LOL
BTW was that you I saw on eastern extreme under Millers tavern? If so, u switched brands


Alan

Type O finger Alan. I left the (W) off of the "Heres"...
LOL! I wanted to see some pics. of your progress.
Now about the other thing. I believe you fell and hit your head. No I wasn't at the Miller's Tavern pull and I sure wasn't in the brand X. I have been down there before but it was a couple years ago. That is the assosiation that had all the rule changes I was cryin' about a while back. Looks like the days have past that I will be pullin' with those guys. Like if I had enough money and HP to go there again
anyway.
So while I have your ear. How hard is it to get parts and or ring and pinions for those eaton rears TA talks about ??
They are the 110 right ???? I looking hard to lay my hands on one. The 10.25 is going to have to go.

Well, I've been told that you can go to napa and get parts for them as they were an optional axle in the late 60's and early 70's on the C30's. I don't know about the Ring and pinion though. When I got mine, I bought 3 that had the same ratio's in case I needed spares.

And btw, if you need cash for mo power, I hear Dieseleater has plenty laying around. LOL

Meanwhile, here's a little something I came across for u to ponder.


Alan

From all the pics I've seen on here of the eaton rears they were all of the pinion side, I think. So I don't know what one would look like from the rear. I kinda thought that the gears and all would come out the back. But not the case with the picture. So what is this ???
The ebay site that Jarod posted. That eaton had 4.88 gears. If I were to pick one of those up I would need to source a R&P for it. So is it called a 110 eaton ??
Another question I have been wanting to ask was about the rearends in the 3/4 ton chevys from 1972 back to I think the late 50s. How strong are those ?? Maybe I'll need to start a new thread on that. We'll see how many bites we get here.
As far as Diesel's extra cash. I bet he has been selling those scary pictures of himself to the local farmers to use in place of scarecrows. How does such a ugly mug get such a pretty wife ????? LMAO !!!! Just pickin' Diesel.

"From all the pics I've seen on here of the eaton rears they were all of the pinion side, I think. So I don't know what one would look like from the rear. I kinda thought that the gears and all would come out the back. But not the case with the picture. So what is this ???
The ebay site that Jarod posted. That eaton had 4.88 gears. If I were to pick one of those up I would need to source a R&P for it. So is it called a 110 eaton ??
Another question I have been wanting to ask was about the rearends in the 3/4 ton chevys from 1972 back to I think the late 50s. How strong are those ?? Maybe I'll need to start a new thread on that. We'll see how many bites we get here.
As far as Diesel's extra cash. I bet he has been selling those scary pictures of himself to the local farmers to use in place of scarecrows. How does such a ugly mug get such a pretty wife ????? LMAO !!!! Just pickin' Diesel."

That there is an Eaton H110. Early Chevy 3/4 tons had the H072. Difference is the H072 is a 7200lb axle with a smaller r&p and axles. It was the predecessor to the 14bolt if my intel is correct. The H110 is an 11000lb axle.

I have a couple of theory's about Diesel landing such pretty lady. 1. He's loaded. 2. She was out drinking and woke up the next morning married to him, and figured well at least he's got $$.
3. She's BLIND but not stupid, after all he IS loaded. 4. She was mad at her dad which would explain the scenerio in #1.

There you have it, I can't think of any other reasons why such a pretty lady would marry diesel.

LOL

Did a little searching since the last post. I did learn that the rear I asked about was the HO72. Are they good ?
Checked Randy's R&P and DTS I didn't see a listing for a R&P for the eaton110. Do you know of any place else to look for a R&P I would have to have 4:10s
AS far as Diesel. I would agree with 1 thru 4. With maybe saying that if he isn't loaded he knows something on the guy that runs the local Banking and Trust.
But I really like the idea of his wife being mad at her dad.

Its a good thing, I tend to read the posts around here.........LOL

Draggin...I would go with a 14-bolt, up to 750 HP..parts are everywhere, its super tough, lots of ratios, etc...

Alan...I thought I explained to you that I JUST BOUGHT THE SCHOOL, and have not yet seen a return on my investment!!!!! That equates to DEBT!!!!!! This month will be very good to me though LOL

As far as how I landed my wife with my ugly mug.....I'll let her type it for you (And I won't even edit). LOL


Laura typing: "Yes boys I was drunk but even after the wine wore off I figured eh....why not? He's always good for a tax write off! As for the cash part, when I met him he was in debt w/ not even a vehicle to his name. As my myspace reads I'm just a silly girl who fell for a stupid boy ;0P"

I tried to get her to spice it up.....But, I guess it was option 2, Minus the money....LOL

A.........

Hey Diesel, where's those pictures you promised? Also, you better hang on to that one.

Laura, I'm sorry, that's all I can say... LOL


Alan

Draggin,

The HO72 is pretty much eqaul to a 14 bolt with the pinion deal done. If you are allowed to run the H110 why wouldnt you opt for the better rear??? And you should be going the other way on gears, not to 4.10 goto 6.17 you will be happier in the long run. As for the Millers Tavern thing, the guys name was Wayne Sharp, so we figured he was kin of some sort.

Travis

Oh and Alan, Wheres the pics???

Travis

Travis I totally understand about going with the lower gear set. BUTTT. Money is getting tighter all the time with the price of fuel etc. for everyday living. So right now I'm trying to get a rear that will live under my truck without breaking the bank. We are SUPPOSED to run stock drivetrain no heavier then 1 ton. So I don't know how I could get the gearing setup in the tranny and transfer case for the lower gears to work out. Unless I was to change the entire drivetrain and that just isn't an option for now.
At least if I could get the 110 with a 4:10 gear in the truck right now. I could up grade the rest later. So Travis do you know where I can source a 4:10 gear for a 110 ??
Diesel. You better hold on tight to that lady of yours.
As far as the 14 bolts. It would be pretty much at it's limits as well. So if I change the 10.25 out. I really need to go a step up.

Oh yea guys. Wayne Sharp isn't any kin that I know of but he is a real nice guy. I have talked with him several times.
He is a truck puller who runs on a budget, if you will. His truck has a small block in it that gives the boys fits. It is kinda amazin'. Even thou it is small block you had better not cross him off the list until the dust settles and you had better have your act together. He doesn't waste money on paint or body parts. He was the points champion in the small block class a couple of years ago and it looks like his is doing well this year in their new altered class.

Draggin,
From what I have seen the 10.25 is as strong as the other axles you are considering(except the H110). So if budget is a concern right now run it till you can save up for a all the other parts. There may be some parts come on the horizon in the near future that might make these sort of swaps alot more economical. If you really must have a H110 in your truck NOW, check with Greensburg Machine in PA. I personally do not remember ever seeing a gearset that fast for one but have not really looked, since I was looking for the lower stuff. You might try a GM dealer, you might be suprised, as it seems to me someone once mentioned that it was the same gearset used in the current 3500HD( or whatever GM calls there truck that is the same as the F450SD). Hope you have some luck but every time I go to a dealership they all have the same answer " I dont know if it will work, but I can have it tuesday".

Travis

On that note of trying a R&P from the newer Chevy. Can you tell what the ring gear size is in the Eaton. That info could help out alot on the front end of the search.
I killed the 10.25 once last year and the axles are about to die now. One of my buddies killed his 10.25 twice last year. Thats why I am looking for a better alterative.
I'm going to look at another set of axles this evening that supposely came out of an old International. We'll see.
Thanks for all the info.

Draggin,

What hp level are you at? Also, I'm wondering if it's your driving style? I ran a 10.25 for 3 years with 0 failures, but I was running 4.56 and 5.38 gears also maybe that's the difference.


Alan

Laura typing: "Yes boys I was drunk but even after the wine wore off I figured eh....why not? He's always good for a tax write off! As for the cash part, when I met him he was in debt w/ not even a vehicle to his name. As my myspace reads I'm just a silly girl who fell for a stupid boy ;0P"

So, what I'm hearing is because of Laura, you now have a vehicle or 2, a pulling truck, a drag truck etc. Sounds like she bailed your sorry butt out. ROFLMBO. Question do you thank her every day and bring her flowers and all that good stuff? If not, it sounds like you should.. LOL


Alan

Alan I very seriously doubt I'm making more then 650 horses. BUT the truck is hooking good and I'm running 35 inch tires. It doesn't have a bounce problem. Sometimes mid track it gets a little lounge to it and I have to feather the gas but thats about it. I don't feel my driving style is killing the parts. Most of them break going down track or near the end of the run.
I would say there is a lot of difference between my truck and yours because of your rear gearing and the auto vs. stick.
Last year when I killed the 10.25 the pinion twisted into on the big end of the track. It wasn't good they had to carry the truck off the track with a backhoe.

Ok, I think the problem is gearing. If you can get lower gears like TA said, then you'd be better off. If your shearing pinions and axles, then I don't think switching to a 14 bolt would help. Have you thought about 33's?

Figure up your finals with a set of 4.56's? If it would help I've got a set of 4.56's for a 10.25 and a Ford Dana 60 I'd make you a sweet deal on. I even have a complete 10.25 that's going to be scrap if someone don't come and get it (supposed to have a 4.10 posi in it but i haven't checked)


Alan

Alan from the wheel speed cal. that Dan sent me. The way the truck is right now. I'm geared a little slow. If I could lay my hands on a BorgWarner transmission and the adapter for a np205 I might be able to drop back to 4.30 gears and 33" tires. That might keep me in the ball park.
If I had the money I'd go to a chevy D60 front and put in the chevy tranny/transfer case with the profab gears. But that would change everything under the truck and it ain't gonna happen for a long time.
Thanks for the offer on the gears I'll keep that in mind.
I might be interested in the axles out of the 10.25 before they go to the scrap yard.

Check with your local big truck shops on the R&P for the Eaton.
I have had alot of trouble with the 10.25 also. If you can get the HO72 cheap go for but make sure you can find an extra gear set or chunk for very few parts are out there. It is strong and lite.......
The H110 is a one ton rear if that helps. As far as gearing you might just change out to bigger tires on back if you get the lower gear. A truck that is on Racing Junk used to run like that El toro is its name he might provide a little info for you. Best I can remember was 44 boggers in the rear and 35 or 33 boggers in the front. Just a thought. It would save on front ring gear and also add more forward rake...