Digger460 (no login) from IP address 208.53.246.86
When they talk about Sintered Iron disks.What are they? Do you use them in place of a regular clutch disk or along with. Seems like they would tear up a flywheel real fast or the face of a pressure plate.
You replace the stock discs with them. They don't wear on the flywheel that badly but if you slip them much they take a toll on the pressure plate if you don't run a heat shield.
digger (no login) 208.53.246.86
Re: pulling clutch question
May 11 2008, 1:19 PM
So if you use sintered disk's. then it wouldn't be a "slipper" clutch?
Tad (no login) 66.38.42.138
Re: pulling clutch question
May 11 2008, 3:06 PM
Yes it will. That is why you run them they hold up to slipping better.
digger460 (no login) 208.53.246.86
Re: pulling clutch question
May 11 2008, 5:38 PM
Are regular stock clutch disks used for slipper clutches also? And will a slipper clutch fit in a regular lakewood bellhousing?
Tad (no login) 66.38.102.185
Re: pulling clutch question
May 11 2008, 6:05 PM
They use the normal style clutches on the twin disc setup mcleod sells for street use. most pulling clutches are the button or sintered iron discs. I wouldn't run anything but the sintered iron discs myself. I have been running a setup for years and have never turned the flywheel. I have a twin mcleod setup in a stock lakewood with no troubles.
IF U USE STOCK DISC IN A SLIPPER IT WILL NEVER HOLD AND FOR IT FITTING U NEED TO PUT IT TOGETHER ON ANY SETUP U GET TO MAKE SURE THERE R NO CLEARANCE ISSUES BUT THERE R SOME THINGS U CAN DO TO CHEAT THE SYSTEM LIKE THE TAB UNDER THE CLUTCH FORK REMOVE IT AND GAIN 3/16 MORE CLEARANCE
digger (no login) 208.53.246.86
Re: pulling clutch question
May 11 2008, 6:59 PM
Is driving one much different than a regular clutch? Thanks for all the info.
digger (no login) 208.53.246.86
Re: pulling clutch question
May 11 2008, 7:00 PM
Is driving one much different than a regular clutch? Thanks for all the info.
I had my first pull tho other night and a bad clutch left me at about 88' I've been going through all of the old post here looking for clutch tips. After reading through everything, I went with the Mcleod Twin Disc clutch, it's in and ready for Friday night. In the 6200# Street Class, our rules state No Slipper Clutches, I wasn't sure what that was but this post clarified it.
The clutch that burnt up was a 12" (metallic?), I couldn't find a 12" in the Mcleod Twin Disc, so I went with the 10", but at least it's 2 disc.
Has anyone else used this clutch, what is your opinion?
Alan (no login) 65.240.34.1
Driving a dual disk slipper
May 12 2008, 9:33 AM
Well I have zero experience as I run an automatic, but I have been told that with a slipper, there are weights that try to engage the clutch as you bring the rpm up. So it is trying to push your foot off the pedal.
HEY TIM WHEN U NEED CLUTCH PARTS NEXT TIME LOOK ME UP
Ken (no login) 66.79.241.17
slipper clutches?
May 13 2008, 7:25 AM
Hey all
We decided to run a dual slipper cluth this year in my buddies truck.
For some reason he got stuck on using a HAyes
So it got ordered and delivered.
what a nite mare
generic bellhousing (looks like a funny car housing with four frame tabs for a GM or hemi)- requires a special tilton starter - bellhousing at 7.5" is too deep for the trans main shaft
flywheel - no register hole in the back to line up the flywheel on the Ford - pilot bearing pressed into the flywheel to make up for the shortfall in bellhousing length - no relief in the back of the flywheel so it would sit in proper relation to the block for starter location ie teeth would never reach to engage the flywheel
no block plate - sposed to fab our own once we figure out where to hang the starter cuz its a GM ring gear pressed onto the flywheel so it will fit into the bellhousing
Now if I got this right - HAyes been makin sliders for just about everything for like 40 years
Anybody got any idea what all this cobbled dee doo shit they sent us for a 460 that wont even bolt up is all about?
Like after 40 sum years wouldn't they have an off the shelf setup?
We used a Hayes flywheel and it bolts directly to the 460. We did have to have our flywheel drilled and tapped for the clutch as one of our clutches didn't use the same pattern. We used a Lakewood Blow Proof. That was a PITA because we use a big truck tranny and need to space it out. Clutchwise we have both a McLoud and an ACE. Not a ton of jacking around.
KEN I MIGHT BE ABLE TO HELP OR U CAN SEND IT BACK AND I WILL SET U UP WITH AN EASIER SETUP FOR WAY LESS
bb (no login) 67.128.254.32
Re: pulling clutch question
May 14 2008, 8:41 AM
Ken , You should send the clutch to Travis. He built my Hayes clutch and it works perfect. Holding a ton of torque at low rpm on a pro stock diesel isn't the easiest thing to do. He will work with you anyway he can. You can watch his handy work on the link below.
bryan
runninred pulling team http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z-56XSRNQtI