FROSTBITE (no login) from IP address 208.53.246.144
I thought I would do a new post. Didn't want to steal POS's . I would take $600.00 for the motor or a front Chevy D60. I parked the motor about 7 years ago and it ran dam good!! Its bored 40 over and That is all I know about the motor.
sweet ill have to see what happens here. Ill let you know. Where trying to get another truck going so we can get this light mod class to grow.
digger460 (no login) 208.53.246.144
Re: 390 4 SALE
May 28 2008, 6:35 AM
shoot me a schedule sometime
Frostbite (no login) 68.114.180.61
PVTPA sched
May 28 2008, 11:18 AM
Probly Have to google map some of these
July 4th 11:00 AM Kimball, NE
July 6th 1:00 PM Stapleton, NE
July ? 10:00 AM Holbrook, NE
July ? 11:00 AM Merna, NE
July 16th 6:30 PM Beaver City , NE
July 19th 10:00 AM Stockville, NE
August 2nd 10:00 AM North Platte, NE
August 9th 10:00 AM Ogallala, NE
August 17th 11:00 AM Imperial, NE
September ? 11:00 AM Lodgepole, NE
September 13th 11:00 AM Wellfleet, NE
September 20th 12:00 PM Benkelman, NE
Just two on our CTTPA schedule this year.
Mitchell - June 21 (entries close at 5 p.m., street stock starts at 5:30 p.m.)
Calhan, Co - July 24 (entries close at 5 p.m., street stock at intermission)
*Calhan is northeast of Colorado Springs
I think (after talking to many of these promoters) that it is a change in the events we hold. In year's past, we had smaller county fairs that liked the street stock events, but could no longer afford to sanction a larger pull. The larger venues don't seem all that interested in street stock. We are working on a program for next year that will help revitalize interest in street stock. Also, I truly believe (and this is just me talking here) that our past work with some modified diesel pickups soured some of our promoters on street stock. Can't say that is the case everywhere, but it definitely is the case for a couple of our dates.
We may try to formalize the rules and see if we can get a group of people interested in running those rules. We, as an association, have to be careful on organizing anything since we may run afoul of insurance regulations. Our insurance is pretty clear that anything that hooks to our sled during a "sanctioned" event must run full safety gear. That's why we rent our sled to the promoter for street stock (or we have my brother's sled do it if its available). We are still working on details, but it would be great to have feedback from stock pickup pullers. As you can tell from my picture, I'm a tractor guy.
Glen
Thats good to hear. I don't mind pulling mainly with the PVTPA i made some good freinds with them. But the mitchell CTTPA stock event is kinda always the highlight for me. Its the feeling of pulling in front of so many spectators that the PVTPA never really has. Frostbite is really still very much a stock truck other then the clutch. But i have done most of the safety stuff to it driveshaft loops,blowproff housing and sfi flywheel and clutch. I think it would be able to run pro-stock safety rule wise. I just dont have the money to build the engine to go with it. But as long as there is comparable competitionon i dont really care that im just a stock truck.
It's fun to participate in stock and sometimes fun to watch but I've seen too many u-joints chucked from stupid mistakes by the drivers, so I like to make sure I'm watching from behind the sled. One track I pulled at only had concrete barricades like those used for road construction seperating the track from the crowd and the crowd kept sitting on the barricades and the promoters had to stop the pull until they stepped back. Sure enough some dweeb tried to shift while holding the throttle on the floor and threw a ujoint. Luckily it didn't hit anyone, but that is the kind've stuff that opens the door for lawsuits.
Some may disagree with me, but I'm of the opinion that if it goes down the track, all u joints must be shielded. No exceptions.
Alan
This message has been edited by loganwildman from IP address 65.240.34.1 on May 28, 2008 2:59 PM
I've been running in the Stock class at the CTTPA events for almost 15 years and it is always a PIA. A lot of fun when you get to pull but before the pull it really sucks. We are always told they want us ready by 6:00 and we sit there waiting usually don't get started until 7:15. And then at the next pull we are told it was the pullers fault we got started so late and that we suck. In all the years I've been going to motorsports events Ive seen only one accident. Where a spectator was injured from flying parts from a dragster. As far as truck pulling goes and especially stock pullers, as slow as we are moving, I wouldn't imagine much happening. I have never seen anything fly out from under a pull truck, including mine, and I have broken my fair share of u-joints and drive shafts. I know, everyone has thier horror stories of what they have seen. I think thier is more of a saftey issue than the trucks pulling and that is all the golf carts, support vehicles, and 4 wheelers running around the track. I know at CTTPA there are a couple of guys that have to have them because of their disabilities but these little teen agers don't need to be driving them. Thats another thing I have seen is teen age kids in 1500 HP modified pull trucks. What the heck is that all about? Let them get started in at least a pro-stock truck. If the parents don't have any better sense than the associations or insurance companies should have some age limit. Its wierd how some things can be insured and others can't??? See you in Mitchell "IF" I can get my truck back together and fuel don't get much more expen$ive???
I am an avid golfer....And I feel that everyone should drive a golf cart at least once. If that means its at a pull than so be it!
Just kidding.......
Hate to be so repetitive, But, just pay your low fee of 150.00 and hit all the pulls! even if you aren't ready with the truck, your still hooking alot and having fun with the rest of us! cheap entertainment...you've spent tons on the truck as far as your other post say, so you might as well pull!!! Add to the truck as you go, and just be around for the thrill of it.
Hope to see you in Mitchell, even if its just to shake your hand....
A.........
Alan (no login) 65.240.34.1
Uh-Oh
May 29 2008, 8:02 AM
Diesel, I knew you were weird what with liking chevies and all, but now you've fessed up and admitted that you play with balls and shafts. I was planning on coming out this fall to take you up on that guided hunt offer, but I think I'll stay home to protect my ass-ets. LOL
Digger, all I'm saying is u-joint sheilds should be mandatory. As I said I witnessed a u joint fly out from a stocker and narrowly miss someone. I have also watched as good ol boy's truck got to bouncing so bad and high (because he wouldn't let out) that I saw daylight under all 4 tires (at the same time) and right before the rear end broke, the bounce was violent enough that I saw daylight between the bedsides and the large square hay bale he had in the bed for weight.
Point is that many stockers don't do this regular like, so pride (I think) doesn't let their right foot lift. You are right Digger that the true stockers don't go that fast but the drive train parts are under full load and as the joint breaks that stored energy suddenly releases and the part (could even be just a small piece) goes flying. Also they do not use the stronger parts that we use, so they are more prone to failure.
Bear in mind that I am refering to true stockers and not trucks that have been rodded and compete in the "stock" class. I did that the first year I pulled and was always in the top 3 but I had drivetrain shields. I was one of the 3 guys that the stockers didn't like to see show up because that meant the best they would finish was 4th. (if all 3 hot stockers showed up).
First of all, I just wanted to address a couple of points. As an association, we do have age limits for our members. You have to be 16 (with parental permission) or 18 without. Last year, we had one member under 18, but none this year. That group (the modified pickup class) that you were referring to has moved on to another association and we are adding new vehicles to this class.
However, that said, we have taken steps to address the four-wheeler usage around the pits. Again, I think that will take care of itself since most of the four-wheelers came with the group I mentioned previously.
Also, I think the attitude towards street stock classes will change as well (even though we only have two this year - Brush went to a tractor stock class instead of trucks) with the change in our membership. I'll be the first to admit that, as a promoter, I've run into some strong resistance to setting rules on street stock, but I think the time has come for just that. When I help groups with their pulls (Mitchell is one), I strongly recommend a light street stock gas, a heavy "not-quite-so-street" stock gas class, and a heavy diesel class. The light stock class should be everyday drivers, the heavy gas is somewhat modified, and the diesel -- well, its just diesel.
Let me know if you think we need to explore other alternatives.
Thanks.
Glen
I'm not surprised that you have gotten a lot of resistance to rules in the stock class. Most of the true stockers are just there for bragging rights and don't want to have to modify their trucks. I suppose they think their not "hot" so they don't need all the safety stuff, but as we all know it only takes one incident to ruin it for the rest.
Around here the main requirement for the stock class is plates and insurance on the vehicle going down the track so that leaves the door open to modifications. Then most modifications occur in the engine and not in the safety area. Problem with a stock class is that it's too hard to regulate because there are no rules. Our association will only sanction our 5 classes. If the promoter wants stockers then its on them and not us.
Alan
LAst Minute (no login) 96.4.63.20
Re: 390 4 SALE
May 29 2008, 11:29 AM
Just my thoughts.
If it protects my family and yours I am all for it. Yes stocks should have some sort of Drive Shaft Shield and in my opinion at least a blow proof, or blanket on an auto. I have seen the left overs of a fly wheel break that cut through a dash and through a set of DOVE heads just loading a truck (DONT ASK). Personnaly we lost a flywheel that let the starter ring out through the block saver and blow proof, a little kid brought it back to me. Several years back my dad lost a large part of a pinion shaft over the crowd from a nine inch Ford.
So since I have been pulling we have always put safety first and hoped for the best also. You never know what might happen.
That is just my opinion.
One more 3-4 years ago at a brush pull a tractor was pulling after the pull because he had problems he lost a flywheel and cut a guys head off, guess the warmed up farm stock guy didn t need safety equipment. No matter what now all of the tractors in our association have tie bars to keep the tractor togehter in case..... Even it plowed that day if he wants to pull it has tie bars...
digger460 (no login) 208.53.211.6
Re: 390 4 SALE
May 29 2008, 2:40 PM
How come I havn't seen pics of these u-joint shields and drive shaft loops? Not that I dought you guys have them. Its just that we'er always wanting to see other peoples progress and get some ideas. I know that there have been a lot of requests for drive shaft loop pictures and ideas and I don't ever see but maybe a couple guys will submit. Always Dan and I see POS has some pics but nothing from anybody else. I don't think that if your competition is lurking they will get any advantage from seeing pictures of your trucks and the underside of it.
Alan (no login) 65.240.34.1
Umm, well
May 29 2008, 2:50 PM
that's because when I've seen those requests, my truck has been in a state of disassembly so I couldn't snap a photo of anything other than the pieces. Give me a few more weeks and I'll get a picture for you Doug.
OK my bro bought the truck. But thats all you know about the engine? no idea on pistons or anything used when it was rebuilt? When was it rebuilt? what is that black thing between the carb? Could i get some more pics please?
This message has been edited by FROSTBITE406 from IP address 68.114.180.61 on May 30, 2008 3:49 PM
Those are NICE valve covers on that FE. Classic M/Ts. Just like mine. LOL
digger460 (no login) 208.53.246.144
Re: 390 4 SALE
May 30 2008, 11:04 PM
The only thing I know about the motor is that it has the 40 over flat-top pistons. The thing under the carb is a 2" spacer and I have it on there because it looks cool. The motor has had the livin crap run out of it and had a lot left in it. I accidently gave away a the flywheel for it but I think I am getting it back. Doesn't matter . You can use the one off your 360. I don't have any headers for it. The carbuerator that is on it is a 650DP but when I was running it I used an 850DP. I always wanted to get a police interceptor intake manifold for it. The heads are C7AE-A. Kind of a run of the mill head. Nothing special. POS would know more about that. What is POS's name? Hate to call him that. Think about it. I'm not trying to sell the motor. Don't really want to. Buut might as well, just sitting there.
That's a torque strap for pullin' in reverse. ( sorry, couldn't resist )
Nick.(POS)
This message has been edited by posford from IP address 216.193.171.61 on Jun 1, 2008 11:32 AM
digger460 (no login) 208.53.246.144
Re: 390 4 SALE
June 1 2008, 11:49 AM
I had chains on the motor because it kept breaking motor mounts. The passenger side was kind of along for the ride . The other side If I remember was bolted on using a header bolt.