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Get out there and stand up for your rights today!

by Crispy Critter

And let them know you're tired of this none sense.

Speaking of - read this today - fellow wrote a book about what I've been saying about the dirt people for years...LOL

Green Hell: Obama's Environmental Plans Will Lead To 'Energy Chaos,' Author Says

Tuesday, April 14, 2009 6:55 PM

By: Jim Meyers Article Font Size


Fox News commentator Steve Milloy, founder of the junkscience.com Web site, tells Newsmax that the U.S. is at the point of no return as the Obama administration is set to implement environmental policies that will lead to energy chaos in this country.

Milloy, author of the new book Green Hell: How Environmentalists Plan to Control Your Life and What You Can Do to Stop Them, also said the so-called cap and trade plan to reduce carbon emissions could double the cost of electricity and affect every aspect of American life.

[Editors Note: Get Steve Milloys new book, Green Hell: How Environmentalists Plan to Control Your Life and What You Can Do to Stop Them Go here now.]

Newsmax TVs Ashley Martella asked Milloy what inspired him to write Green Hell.

Ive been spending most of my time over the past 15 years trying to expose the faulty science behind the environmentalist agenda, Milloy said.

We are nearing a point of no return with green policies. Barack Obama wants to ram through this cap and trade, which is going to cause havoc in our economy.

[Editor's Note: Watch author Steve Milloy discuss Obamas coming Green Hell - Go Here Now]

I thought we really need to step this up and let people know what is in store for them if green policies go through how are green policies going to affect your day-to-day life, your pocketbook, national security, the whole range of issues that confront Americans today. Thats the purpose of the book. To let Americans know what green means to them.

Martella asked what Milloy believes are the worst aspects of the cap and trade plan.

The most immediate effect, Milloy said, will be for your electric bill to go up anywhere from 50 percent to 100 percent or more. But perhaps the most insidious part of that bill is that it will solidify control of energy policy and our economy by the greens.

Greens are these people who say they are all about the environment, but I think that is the furthest thing they are about. They use the environment as a kind of shield behind which they advance their left-wing, socialist, totalitarian agenda.

You just look at everything these people want to do. Its all about government control of our lives. Even if there was an environmental problem that I could agree with them on, their solution is always going to be more government control.

Martella noted that environmentalists favor such steps as banning offshore oil drilling and prohibiting oil shale production.

What theyre causing is energy chaos, and out of that chaos the only solution is more government control, Milloy declared.

They dont want us to drill for oil. They dont want us to use natural gas. They dont want us to refine gasoline. They dont want us to use nuclear power. They certainly dont want us using coal.

People might think thats because theyre for renewable energy like solar and wind. Thats not true either. Look at all the wind projects that are being stopped by the greens.

In Georgia theres a wind project being slowed down because of the alleged concern about the mating habits of whales. Last June the Bureau of Land Management placed a moratorium on solar projects on public lands because they were concerned about the impact on the critters.

I live in Maryland, a very green state, and my governor has placed a ban on windmills on public lands.

So although the greens say they are for renewable energy, when you get right down to it theyre really not. Theyre not for any energy solution. Theyre just for sabotaging our economy, causing chaos, which brings in more government control.

Martella observed that a wealthy green elite stand to profit handsomely from green technologies.

Absolutely. And the most famous one is Al Gore, Milloy said.

Al Gore is a partner in at least two investment partnerships that are heavily invested in green energy technologies like wind and solar, and fuel efficient cars. And if the Obama administrations cap and tax goes through along with the stimulus package, these guys stand to make billions and billions of dollars.

Martella asked Milloy to comment on efforts to effectively do away with safe and inexpensive incandescent light bulbs in favor of expensive fluorescent bulbs containing mercury.

Its all back to their causing chaos in our economy, said Milloy.

For the last 40 years the greens have been telling us to take toxics like mercury out of our house. But now theyre telling us its O.K. to bring mercury in our house because these bulbs use less energy and are going to reduce global warming. Of course none of this is true.

These bulbs cost more. They dont really work. There was a front-page article recently in the New York Times about how these bulbs are prone to malfunction.

Worse, if you have the misfortune of dropping one of these in your home, you cant just sweep it up and throw it away in the household trash. You need to go to [an EPA Web site] and get a 20-step procedure, which includes opening the window, evacuating the room for 15 minutes . . . and throwing the bulb away in a special disposal process. It has to be treated like hazardous waste.

Its just a nightmare for people.

[Editor's Note: Watch author Steve Milloy discuss Obamas coming Green Hell - Go Here Now]

[Editors Note: Get Steve Milloys new book, Green Hell: How Environmentalists Plan to Control Your Life and What You Can Do to Stop Them Go here now.]

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A peaceful protest against taxes today...

by Monster Hunter

in Bossier City...my wife doesn't want me to go...told me I'm already in the spot light and we don't need the IRS breathing down our necks...BTW...I haven't heard anything about the tea bags I sent...more then likely...probably fixed them selves a cup of tea in the cups we paid for...

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Show of hands???

by Ken3030

How many folks here planning on attending a tea party this afternoon? We're having one here in Morgan City.

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I plan on going to Bossier this afternoon...N/T

by Monster Hunter

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I feel a movement

by Crispy Critter

I heard the estimates at between 5 and 8,000 folks in attendance here today. All I can tell you is there were a lot of good Americans, not bad for a work day.

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This is about as close as I could get to the stage - that is Ron Reagan up on the big screen. John Rathzenburger was up there too.. Some local celeb's, and a lot of local polititions - because they are sucking up bigtime. I think the State polititions are actually more dispised then the folks in DC - but it is close.


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This was my favorite protester of the day!

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Proud to be an American today. Glad to see regular folks stand up and at least try to be heard. I understand the White House has already dismissed all of this. I guess we are the folks the Department of Homeland Security sent out their memo about.

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We had a good turnout for the TEA Party in Monroe...N/T.

by Birddog



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Guess I need to start watching our local news...

by Monster Hunter

or reading the paper...so I can kind of keep up with what's going on around here...I didn't make ours in Bossier...got to fooling with my dogs and completely forgot...damnit...BTW...I was close to you Tuesday night coming back from Columbia...I told Jake when I saw the exit that was the town you lived in...

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What were you doing in Columbia? N/T..

by Birddog



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Jake had a baseball game...N/T

by Monster Hunter

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Did you go Ken?...

by Monster Hunter

was there a big turn out?...

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Re: Did you go Ken?...

by Ken3030

Yes, me and my son went. There was probably 200+ people that showed up. Not bad for this little town I guess.

I was surprised there were no politicians or elected officials that showed up and tried to take the mike. I think they are all laying low now.

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Politicians...

by Monster Hunter

Probably went to a city that had a better turnout...haven't seen a politician yet that wouldn't attend a function to garner a few votes...

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You're probably right! n/t

by Ken3030



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MH< tried to leave you a message yesterday to watch Hannity on Fox News HD last night...

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He was in Atlanta for their tea party.He said they had 20,000 people there. It's wonder no one is causing a riot now after yesterday.

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I'm not much on Fox news Nellie...

by Monster Hunter

Their reporting doesn't usually follow my way of thinking...

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Speaking of news

by Crispy Critter

This short video is pretty informative on how we are shown what happens.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dd2tg8gxCDU&feature=player_embedded

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Atlanta area

by Grumpy

all the gun forums this morning are happy with the turn out in Atlanta, fire and EMS personnel estimate there was between 15-20 thousand showed up and as usual CNN called everyone all those bad names......I think DHS is paying CNN to report negatively on gun issues and call everyone who owns a gun a radical threat to the country.

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DHS and Pelosi must be teaming up

by Crispy Critter

Pelosi wants to get every firearm "registered" - as an aid to solving gun crimes. I read a study yesterday - out every country that has registered guns to help solve crimes - not one single crime has been solved through gun registration.

However they were able to confiscate them much easier.

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Don't mess with Texas

by Crispy Critter

http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/APStories/stories/D97J48IO2.html

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Yee Haw!

by Ruby Red

We seceded once and we can do it again. We were an independent country once and we can do that again. I is being discussed! wink.gif

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Re: Don't mess with Texas

by Ruby Red

You know that you've got a bona fide protest going when the governor of the state shows up and he's as pixxed as the every day citizen. I lost a great deal of respect for Mr. Perry, after he allowed the state to renege on paying public school teacher's insurance costs (we got some money but by the time the government taxed it to death, it amounted to less than $100 to pay to cover my hubby).SO...I guess you are forgiven, a little, Governor Perry!

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Hard step to her right...

by Monster Hunter

Years back, probably 5 to 6 maybe longer, MK and I sitting in my home watching some frames MK had been working on...there are several items noticed that we both thought peculiar but one has always stayed with me...

For an unknown reason Patty simply walking away in a rather fast gait suddenly makes this step to the right...there is something in the film, possibly a stick, you can see move but this small artifact wouldn't cause this creature to abruptly take this step IMO...

This is not the best animation so be patient watching it to the end...I'll contact MK to see if I can get a better copy...
[linked image]

Back then this was a no doubt mystery...neither MK or I didn't have any idea why this creature would do this...however; after MK's work on this film there are items this creature does that begins to make sense...

IMO...one of two things caused this creature to do this...first...someone is on the left side of her shooting or two...someone standing next to the camera is shooting...by being a hunter shooting many rounds in a hunting situation I do have some understanding of sound...these men were in a canyon...no matter where you shoot from the mountains and trees make it more then difficult to recognize the direction of the shot...I do think the latter is the reason since we do see the right thigh wound...

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Could a misplaced shot

by Ruby Red

have made that stick move and thus cause Patty to side-step? Just wondering.

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Another interesting bigfoot related article

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http://www.mysterious-america.net/hansenint.html



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This video may bring a smile to all us southern folk on the MB

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http://www.ebaumsworld.com/video/watch/1028634/

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MH, Found a better video clip thats clearer to see prints on the SUV

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http://www.charlotteobserver.com/597/story/640949.html

Posted on Apr 14, 2009, 12:33 PM
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That wasn't done by a dog

by Ruby Red

Unless it head butted that SUV really hard...Dang!

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No Doubt...the dreaded Chupacabra...

by Monster Hunter

has struck again...LOL...

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Da da da Da da da ...cue 'Jaws' music!

by Cindy



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What the Duce!

by Wookiefever

Wow

What ever it was it sure was hungry for paint chips and bondo.

I think that if it was a bear the car would have been completely trashed not just a quarter panel "sample snack".


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It was a Bear

by johnbamburg

Hi folks,
I've only ever read the posts here. I've never posted myself. I know you've got different rules about posting but...I live in Charlotte NC and this took place about a mile from my best friend's house in Lincoln County.
It was a bear trying to get a cat that had crawled up in the engine compartment of the SUV.
What the story never told was that a bear had been seen and reported a couple of days before.
So much for investigative reporting.
We saw this for what it was quickly and we know the SUV owner had an idea as to what the real culprit was when they made the report. They had already called the police. The reporters came from monitoring the scanner. That's what reporters do in Lincoln County. Anyway, they stuck with the "I don't know what it was" story after all the hoopla started. It's not a busy place where the news is concerned.
Just wanted to set the record straight.
BTW, there are rarely bear reports in Lincoln County




    
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Thanks for the information...

by Monster Hunter

Puts the mysterious animal to rest...a bear...makes sense...

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MH< if there were lights in the front of that SUV........

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that were ripped out I wonder if they were ever recovered. I would think a bear would cause alot more damage than that.

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We need a bear expert to answer that question Nellie...

by Monster Hunter

I am not familiar with bears...never saw one in the wild but I did see some tracks up at Timbers place a few years back...doesn't quite qualify me as an expert though it would others...

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As much as we want it to be some cryptid......

by John Bamburg

Here's a link so you can see the whole SUV. The lights were still intact.
The media made this into more than what it was.
The next door neighbor saw the bear giving up and leaving the area.
My best friend knows these people. He has, actually everyone living in the area has talked to these people since this happened.
Telling the whole story would have been anti-climatic to the original news blurb.
I know we want it to be some mysterious creature but it was a Bear.



http://www.khou.com/topstories/stories/KHOU090405_ks_MysteryCarAttack.a63f8cff.html



    
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Don't they always

by Ruby Red

make things into more than they are?

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The truth

by Crispy Critter

Is usually odd enough.......

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Hey...I'm not saying Patty didn't have a hernia on her right thigh..

by Monster Hunter

She may very well had...but someone shot it off...



[linked image]

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Better aerial view of Bluff Creek...

by Monster Hunter

That shows the creek but not a sharp bend...Patterson told Sanderson that the creature was across the creek against the tree line...the arrow of the right of the picture shows the creatures walk...

[linked image]

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Who or what is that walking

by Grumpy

just to the left of the arrow, it casts a shadow and is either human or monster........

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The Monster is...

by Monster Hunter

Rene Dahinden...

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How long after the Film was thing taken?

by DonDon

I've spend the last hour looking through all the old pictures of the film and somethings bothering me real bad. Where are all the Debris piles? Was this taken a fwe years after the film? In the pictures the MK has given us and also the one;s I've found over the last few years, there are debris piles ALL OVER the place. I don;t see very many at all is the aerial photo. Looks pretty clean to me, nice open sandbar. Not so in the film itself, Debris piles all over the place. One more thing I see is the lack of trees in general. I've looked at the film and see where there are 4 or 5 trees in a grouping in one spot and I'm having problems figuring out exactly where that spot is on the aerial photo.

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About four years I think Don...

by Monster Hunter

I'm not real sure but it was some time after the original Patterson filming...

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Makes a little sense then

by DonDon

There's way to many trees and debris piles missing in this picture

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My crazy dog's eye shine...

by Monster Hunter

Charlie Mack...a well bred chocolate lab but a bit goofy...not only does this demonstrate his goofiness but it tells you the color of a dog's eye shine...as demonic as his eyes shine Charlie is a sweety...not a mean bone in him anywhere...

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The ears are definitly a fashion statement.

by Cindy

How could anyone think he looks demonic! I think Big Sweetie is the right name for him.

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Mississippi meeting....

by Monster Hunter

Friday May 8th- Sunday morning the 10th of may
by DonDon
is going to be the date set for the Mississippi Meeting. The location will be at a new place for me but it has had encouters in the past. Least the general area has. I'll get down before the get together and do come scouting to see what all is there. They do have walking trails and such with a smallish lake 12-15 acres. It'll be fun just to see everyone again!!!! Email me and let me know If you're planning on coming so I can get a good grip on how much food to bring for the one meal I'll provide. The rest is up to all who come. We'll arrive friday morning and be leaving sunday late morning. Hope you can all make it.OH, this is open to anyone, not just GCBRO membership. Just some general discussion of the creature and we will do some hiking and snooping around. There are several places nearby this site that I have reports from that we may go check out as well. Bring your camping gear, your stories and we'll have some fun.
Don McDonald (DonDon)
don_1145@yahoo.com



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Looking at the location on Google earth

by DonDon

and it looks like a great site. Just on our database, we have 4 or 5 encounters turned in within 25 miles of this site. That does include 1 that I've investigated personally. We'll have thousands of acres we can explore and I'll make sure I get down there a time or 2 before the get together. You can come for the meeting only, or you can stay as long as you like. I'll have more info in the next few days as far as fees for camping, things like that. There is NO FEE for the meeting though, just camping fees if you decide to stay. I will not be posting where we're at on a public forum so if you want to come, please let me know and I'll give out details after you email me. Just don;t want every Tom, Dick and harry showing up unannounced is all.

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Anyone remember Cliff Crook and Cris Murphy?...

by Monster Hunter


Former Bothell resident says Bigfoot film shows man in a fur suit

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Cliff Crook has made a clay model of an item
that he says, under extreme magnification,
appears on the hip of a dark figure some
believe to be Bigfoot.
Staff photo by Andrew Walgamott.
by Andrew Walgamott, staff reporter
http://www.nwnews.com/

For some, it might be like dethroning Elvis as the king of rock and roll.

Cliff Crook, a former Bothell man, is claiming that a large, hairy figure some believe to be Bigfoot caught on film is really just a man in a monkey suit.

"It has to be. What is it doing with a man-made object on it?" Crook said. He said that in four frames of the famous Patterson film, magnified 100 times, there appears to be an inch-long device. Attached to the figure's hip, Crook says it may be a clasp, a bell, or a fastener. The object appears in different places in each frame, indicating it is flopping around, he said.

While the film has been analyzed by an expert in bio-mechanics who remains convinced that it isn't just a man in a suit, Crook boldly predicts, "It will go down as the Bigfoot hoax of the century" and promises more evidence soon.

"It's not all that's been found, but that's all I'm supposed to tell the media at this point," Crook added. Cryptically, he said perhaps the man in the suit would be named.

The Patterson film records a dark, bipedal figure striding across a northern California creek bed. It was taken by Roger Patterson, a Bigfoot hunter, who, along with another man, happened onto the creature on October 20, 1967. Patterson died in 1972.

For those scratching their heads, Bigfoot, or Sasquatch as it is also known, is ... well, it's hard to say what exactly it is without a specimen for scientists to study, or even the bones of one. Some regard it as a myth. Others say it is probably an ape. A few dedicate their lives searching for it.

Best known for the large footprints it leaves behind, Bigfoot is said to be elusive, smelly. There are numerous stories of men encountering hairy beasts from the turn of the century. Similar beings are recorded within local Indian cultures, and in Asia

You can read more here: including an article by Ivan T. Sanderson...

http://www.oregonbigfoot.com/patterson.php




    
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Sanderson's partial interview and report with Patterson/Gimlin...

by Monster Hunter

Argosy Magazine Article, February 1968
First Photos of "Bigfoot" California's Legendary "Abominable Snowman"
Ivan T. Sanderson

At three-thirty p.m. on the twentieth of October last year, two young men, Roger Patterson and Bob Gimlin, were "packing" it on horseback into one of the last remaining great wilderness areas, northeast of Eureka, California. Their saddlebags contained, on one side, rifles and grub and, on the other, ready-loaded movie and still cameras and other equipment. They were following a creek which had been washed out two years ago in the terrible floods that devastated most of northern California. This was some twenty miles beyond the end of an access road for logging and about thirty-five miles in from the nearest and only blacktop road in this vast, as yet not fully mapped area of National Forest. I have been up this Bluff Creek and, as a botanist, I can tell you that it is rugged four layers or tiers of trees, the tallest up to 200 feet, and a dense undergrowth. Also, the terrain goes up and down a gigantic sawtooth.

The below photo shows just how rugged the wilderness was at the time...

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Roger and Bob rounded a sharp bend in the sandy arroyo of the creek. Then it happened. The horses reared suddenly in alarm and threw both the riders. Luckily, Roger fell off to the right and, being an experienced horseman, disengaged himself and grabbed his camera. Why? Because he had spotted what had turned their horses into mad broncos. About 100 feet ahead, on the other side of the creek bed, there was a huge, hairy creature that walked like a man!

Something I've asked without any response...just where in the hell is this sharp bend?...

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"On the other side of the creek, back up against the trees, there was a sort of man-creature that we estimated later, by measuring some logs that appear in the film, to have been about seven feet tall. Both Bob and I estimate and this pretty well matched what others told us from examination of the depth to which her tracks sank into hard sand that she would weigh about three hundred and fifty pounds. She was covered with short, shiny, black hair, even her big, droopy breasts. She seemed to have a sort of peak on the back of her head, but whether this was longer hair or not I don't know. Anyhow, hair came right down her forehead to meet her eyebrows, if she had any; and it came right up to just under her cheekbones. And oh, get this she had no neck! What I mean is, the bottom of her head just seemed to broaden out onto and into her wide, muscular shoulders. I don't think you'll see it in the film, but she walked like a big man in no hurry, and the soles of her feet were definitely light in color."

Sanderson wrote: About 100 feet ahead, on the other side of the creek bed, there was a huge, hairy creature that walked like a man!

Patterson reported:
"On the other side of the creek, back up against the trees, there was a sort of man-creature"

Funny thing....in the aerial photo there are several locations to look for...the blank square is where Patterson claimed he was standing doing the filming...the man on ground is Dahinden taking the path the creature walked...to the right of the still...

Sanderson wrote: "Roger and Bob rounded a sharp bend in the sandy arroyo of the creek. Then it happened. The horses reared suddenly in alarm and threw both the riders."

Sanderson didn't nor did Patterson report crossing a creek...if the creature was on the other side of the creek then where is the creek?...And where is this sharp bend?...

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This whole thing . .

by EasTexSteve

This whole thing is starting to look like one of those investigations you go on where the BS starts getting deeper the more you dig. Thanks to MK for exposing this whole charade. I think we can safely file this one with the ranks of the Honey Island Monster and the Skookum buttprint. The big question now becomes, just who did they hunt and shoot at Bluff Creek?



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LOL...no doubt BS...

by Monster Hunter

This whole bunch is full of it...



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It wouldn't surprise me . .

by EasTexSteve

It wouldn't surprise me if he said that Elvis was the man in the monkey suit.


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Me either Steve...

by Monster Hunter

The more I read the more I smell sxxx...

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Well to paraphrase one of Bobby's pet sayings

by Ruby Red

if it looks like sxxx, and smells like sxxx; then it MUST be sxxx. LOL

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Didn't Crook get caught in a few lies over the years?

by DonDon

THINK he was one that got busted for hoaxing but I'm not 100% sure but thats what I seem to remember

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Re: Didn't Crook get caught in a few lies over the years?

by nwbigfootguy

Yes, if I remember correctly he is a retired FS ranger or worker that used a model to take some pictures and fabricate a sighting. Here is a link to the pictures.



These pictures were later proven to be a hoax.



    
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Sorry nwbigfootguy...

by Monster Hunter

We do not allow the thief's site on our forum...actually Crook claimed he bought some pictures from a ranger...he was raked over the coals pretty good but maintained they were authentic...

You can read more here:

http://www.angelfire.com/wa3/cliffcrook/

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Then why is he

by Ruby Red

popping up once again? Why don't people with a reputation like his just go away and quite bothering those of us who really want to solve a mystery and in the process expose the truth behind that famous Patterson/Gimlin/Green/Dahinden/Titmus Sasquatch hunting expedition?

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Guess he feels bulletproof

by DonDon

Kinda Biscardi. Just keeps getting knocked down and getting back up. We got to talking about that P.O.S. last night on the phone. Ya'll see where the Ga boys are now claining again to have a darn body? Something about August as a showing date. No one will even pay them any mind now so I don;t know why they are even trying. Guess they got some good crack or something

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Re: Sorry nwbigfootguy...

by nwbigfootguy

Sorry MH I didnt know about the link... Keep up the good work. I enjoy comming here and reading about everyones and experiences and research projects.

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No problem my man...n/t

by Monster Hunter

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Well to play 'devil's advocate'

by Ruby Red

that might explain why the shooters involved in shooting "Patty" in the back have covered it up because they were shooting at "that man in a fur suit" all of these years. They only realized their error, and the deep doo-doo they'd stepped in after removing his face mask. Is the guy who made this claim blind? Is his evidence as valid or as visually impacting as M.K.'s and your video analysis? If you were asking that question on a survey, my vote would have to be "nay!" Oh, well! Onward and upward...wink.gif

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The problem with some "Old Time Bigfooters"...

by Monster Hunter

when they begin the search they actually think this is easy and they will be the one for discovery...as time goes by they begin to realize this ain't as easy as they initially thought...so to keep up they begin to fudge a bit on sightings, reports and personal experiences while in the field...for some...they want the notoriety so they do something completely stupid by attempting a hoaxed film or stills...their creditability is flushed down the toilet...

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So very true...time is a major problem

by Ruby Red

to find these days; even if I am retired. Substitute teaching is keeping me as busy as when I was employed to teach. But I'm not complaining too much. I was finally able to purchase a bedroom suit with furniture that matches; all of it paid for by sub money.

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Good for you RR...

by Monster Hunter

actually a person doesn't need matching furniture as much as they need bad lighting...

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Patterson/Gimlin film...

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Make sure and cast your opinion..N/T...

by Monster Hunter

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Hey, you Mississippi folks . .

by EasTexSteve

Are you Mississippi folks going to have a meeting this month?


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Steve, was waiting on a couple of things to

by DonDon

see when we could have it. We'll be setting a date by the end of the week though. Hope it doesn't cinflict with anyone's schedule but It's time to set a date

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Oklahoma

by Timberghost

Folks, I'm putting the Oklahoma gathering on hold for now. Too many Irons in the fire and just plain feel like crap for the last couple months...Trying to work while not feeling good has been a struggle....Another time for sure we'll get together..
Michael

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Timberghost

by Grumpy

Michael you take care and just get your body back into fighting shape again... being sick is no fun, heck even a juvenile monster could probably kick your butt right now...LOL.. Besides nobody wants me anywhere near them right now, after 45+ years of smoking I quit cold turkey last Friday and it's not a recreational experience!!!

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I feel your pain Grumpy...

by Monster Hunter

I quit for several hours myself...damn near drove me nuts...LOL...hang in there partner...you can do it...

When I see you again I want to be able to call you a quitter...unlike myself...

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Thanks Jim,

by Grumpy

the sad thing is I enjoyed smoking, it just got to expensive and I've noticed I can't RUN up that hill anymore... plus I can now spend the money on guns, ammo, toys etc. and maybe live long enough to enjoy them......

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Too funny!!!

by Ken3030

You should have been a damn comedian. "I quit for several hours." LOL

All kidding aside. If Grumpy does quit smoking.........WHO is he going to get to go hiking with him???? Nobody will be able to keep up with him then!

I'm trying my best to quit too. I'm almost ready to go back to smoking though. I'm starting to get some of my sense of smell back and some of the smells out there ain't too nice!

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Too Funny

by Grumpy

Ken, I haven't gotten that far yet, I'm still trying to breath without inhaling. How do people drive, talk, walk, or watch TV without a smoke in their hand.... Hell I may have to start drinking again just to quit smoking..... 4 days and counting, when does the smell return so I know when monsters are stalking me???

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When and if I decide to quit...

by Monster Hunter

Bet my wife and kids will hide all the guns and butcher knives...

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I'm pround of all you guys

by DonDon

May make me try again IF you all don;t kill someone during this quitting process. I was a MAJOR BUTTHOLE last time I tried and thank god I didn't have any guns around back then

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Hey Ken

by Crispy Critter

After climbing that mountain Saturday - I decided to quit the things too.

I, however, am going the mamby pamby route and using them patches.

Am I am still a joy to be around....LOL

I'll follow Grumps down any old trail at any old speed - just as long as he breaks through the thickets first!

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I tried the patches Scott...

by Monster Hunter

I think they had a reverse effect on me...I started smoking two at a time...just glad I only had two hands...

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That happens

by Crispy Critter

If you take them off......Seems the body has a need to catch up on all the missing smoke...lol

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LOL Ken

by DonDon

think I lasted about 3 weks last time I tried to quit. Made the mistake of going to the bar one afternoon after work and a friend had one lit up next to me. He decided it would be CUTE to mess with me so I took it from him and smoked about a 1.2 cig with one puff. LOL GOOD LUCK on that dude

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Sure hate that Michael but

by DonDon

we'll be ready when you get to feeling better. Your health and family come first

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Thanks to DonDon for the MS Meeting

by J

I'm swamped and couldn't do it. Thanks to Don it's on! I doubt I will make it so you guys have fun. See ya in the fall. happy.gif
J

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Time lapse...several cameras...

by Monster Hunter

First things first...Green writes he was at Bluff Creek in late August...Patterson reports he was at Bluff Creek in October....by evidence I know their time lines are conflicting...

First we have a animation of the bloody dog print in the Patterson footage...we know for fact Green and his party had a handler and dog when they were there...

The bloody dog print with Patty in the background...BTW...we suspect this was taken with the camera Green is carrying...

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Green and party at Bluff Creek with a dog and handler...(Dahinden's camera)

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Several different cameras used...

Green has a camera...the person taking the below, Dahinden, had a camera and of course Patterson had a camera...there are differences in the quality of filming each camera could accomplish...you can clearly see the lack of quality of the still on the left compared to the still on the right...Dahindens camera was used while filming Green while we suspect, by the crisp quality of the still on the right, this was taken with Greens camera...which puts Green and his party with Patterson and Gimlin as well with Green editing the film so we can clearly see exactly what he wanted us to see...but yet not give us any verifiable evidence of what we do see other then a hair covered creature with breasts looking back at the camera, dog, shooter or all three...BTW...this is when the wound on the right thigh appears...

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The below animation was taken with a lessor quality camera then Greens but a step above Dahindens...I believe this to be Patterson's camera though I do keep in mind the generation of film this animation was taken from...

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We then come to the re-enactment of events...

First we have a clean shaven Patterson Casting tracks...notice his shirt...This still came from Patterson's camera...

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Next we have Patterson posing for the camera with two casts...this photo is well known simply because of his jacket being buttoned up wrong...there are some who think this photo was taken at a different place and time frame of Bluff Creek...they are wrong...three things to look for in this photo...first his beard...secondly his shirt...then the way Patterson is facing...

By his beard alone we can tell he has been there for more then several days...his clothes are dirty, same shirt and from his report we know he didn't cast tracks until after the film was taken...

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Another still of Patterson but looking at a different angle...

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The third still of Patterson with some significant information...notice to the right of the frame...you can see a bucket...the same bucket Patterson used to cast the tracks...same clothes but his jacket is now unbuttoned...this clearly shows this falls in the same time frame as the Patty footage...

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All three stills of Patterson posing with the casts were taken with his camera...


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Depth of tracks...

by Monster Hunter

Look at the dog paw print compared to the creatures track...the depth of tracks indicate the creatures weight was possibly miscalculated...four paws compared to the weight distribution of two feet...I do understand compaction of soil underneath the loose sand but the track doesn't appear to reach the depth of the compacted road bed...

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Alignment of tracks

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Notice tracks are in a straight line heel to toe.

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Federal government declares bankruptcy - 1933

by Crispy Critter

Lou - I did not know this - but now it sure makes everything look a lot clearer. This is when the Federal Reserve completely took over our government. Apparently we have been in a state of emergency ever since. The more I read about this - the worse it looks.

On the bankruptcy of the US FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, 1933 (self.CommonLaw)

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\1933. Our country was recovering from a depression and was declared bankrupt. Why were the American people never told about this? - Public policy and National Security overruled the public right to know. Read the following Congressional quote:

"My investigation convinced me that during the last quarter of a century the average production of gold has been falling off considerably. The gold mines of the world are practically exhausted. There is only about $11,000,000,000 in gold in the world, with the United States owning a little more than four billions. We have more than $100,000,000,000 in debts payable in gold of the present weight and fineness. . . As a practical proposition these contracts cannot be collected in gold for the obvious reason that the gold supply of the entire world is not sufficient to make payment."

-- Congressional Record, Congressman Dies, March 15, 1933.

Before 1933 all contracts with the government were payable in gold. Now I ask you, who in their right mind would enter into contracts totaling One Hundred billion dollars in gold, when there was only eleven billion in gold in the whole world, and we had about four billion? To keep from being hung by the American public they obeyed the bankers demands and turned over our country to them. They never came out and said we were in bankruptcy but, the fact remains, we are. In 1933 the gold of the whole country had to be turned in to the bankers, and all government contracts in gold were canceled. This is bankruptcy.

"Mr. Speaker, we are here now in chapter 11. Members of Congress are official trustees presiding over the greatest reorganization of any bankrupt entity in world history, the U.S. government. We are setting forth hopefully, a blueprint for our future. There are some who say it is a coroner's report that will lead to our demise."

"It is an established fact that the United States Federal Government has been dissolved by the Emergency Banking Act, March 9, 1933, 48 Stat. 1, Public Law 89-719; declared by President Roosevelt, being bankrupt and insolvent. H.J.R. 192, 73rd Congressional session, June 5, 1933 - Joint Resolution To Suspend the Gold Standard and Abrogate The Gold Clause dissolved the Sovereign Authority of the United States and the official capacities of all United States Governmental Offices, Officers, and Departments and is further evidence that the United States Federal Government exists today in name only."

"The receivers of the United States Bankruptcy are the International Bankers, via the United Nations, the World Bank and the International Monetary Fund. All United States Offices, Officials, and Departments are now operating within a de facto status in name only under Emergency War Powers. With the Constitutional Republican form of Government now dissolved, the receivers of the Bankruptcy have adopted a new form of government for the United States."

-- Congressman Traficant on the House floor, March 17, 1993 (The Bankruptcy of The United States, United States Congressional Record, March 17, 1993, Vol. 33, page H-1303).

The wealth of the nation including our land was turned over to the bankers. In return, the nations 100 billion dollar debt was forgiven. I have two papers that have circulated the country on this subject. Remember Jesus said "money is the root of all evil" The Congress of 1933 sold every American into slavery to protect their asses. Read the following Congressional quotes:

"I want to show you where the people are being imposed upon by reason of the delegation of this tremendous power. I invite your attention to the fact that section 16 of the Federal Reserve Act provides that whenever the Government of the United States issues and delivers money, Federal Reserve notes, which are based on the credit of the Nation--they represent a mortgage upon your home and my home, and upon all the property of all the people of the Nation--to the Federal Reserve agent, an interest charge shall be collected for the Government."

-- Congressional Record, Congressman Patman, March 13, 1933.

"That is the equity of what we are about to do. Yes; you are going to close us down. Yes; you have already closed us down, and have been doing it long before this year. Our President says that for 3 years we have been on the way to bankruptcy. We have been on the way to bankruptcy longer than 3 years. We have been on the way to bankruptcy ever since we began to allow the financial mastery of this country gradually to get into the hands of a little clique that has held it right up until they would send us to the grave."

-- Congressional Record, Congressman Long, March 11, 1933.

What did Roosevelt do? Sealed our fate and our childrens fate, but worst of all, he declared War on the American People. Remember the War Powers Act, the Trading with the enemy Act? He declared emergency powers with his authority being the War Powers Act, the Trading with the enemy Act. The problem is he redefined who the enemy was, read the following (remembering that the Social Security Number is a license to work):

The declared National Emergency of March 9, 1933 amended the War Powers Act to include the American People as enemies:

"In Title 1, Section 1 it says: The actions, regulations, rules, licenses, orders and proclamations heretofore or hereafter taken, promulgated, made, or issued by the President of the United States or the Secretary of the Treasury since March 4, 1933, pursuant to the authority conferred by subdivision (b) of section 5 of the Act of October 6, 1917, as amended, are hereby approved and confirmed."

"Section 2. Subdivision (b) of section 5 of the Act of October 6, 1917, (40 Stat. L. 411), as amended, is hereby amended to read as follows: emergency declared by the President, the President may, through any agency that he may designate, or otherwise, investigate, regulate, or prohibit, under such rules and regulations as he may prescribe, by means of licenses or otherwise, any transactions in foreign exchange, transfers of credit between or payments by banking institutions as defined by the President, and export, hoarding, melting, or earmarking of gold or silver coin or bullion or currency, BY ANY PERSON WITHIN THE UNITED STATES OR ANY PLACE SUBJECT TO THE JURISDICTION THEREOF."

Here is the legal phrase subject to the jurisdiction thereof, but at law this refers to alien enemy and also applies to Fourteenth Amendment citizens:

"As these words are used in the first section of the Fourteenth Amendment of the Federal Constitution, providing for the citizenship of all persons born or naturalized in the United States and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, the purpose would appear to have been to exclude by the fewest words (besides children of members of the Indian tribes, standing in a peculiar relation to the National Government, unknown to the common Law), the two classes of cases, children born of Alien Enemies, in hostile occupation, and children of diplomatic representatives of a foreign state, both of which, by the law of England and by our own law, from the time of the first settlement of the English colonies in America, had been recognized exceptions to the fundamental rule of citizenship by birth within the country."

-- United States v Wong Kim Ark, 169 US 649, 682, 42 L Ed 890, 902, 18 S Ct 456. Ballentine's Law Dictionary.

Congressman Beck had this to say about the War Powers Act:

"I think of all the damnable heresies that have ever been suggested in connection with the Constitution, the doctrine of emergency is the worst. It means that when Congress declares an emergency there is no Constitution. This means its death....But the Constitution of the United States, as a restraining influence in keeping the federal government within the carefully prescribed channels of power, is moribund, if not dead. We are witnessing its death-agonies, for when this bill becomes a law, if unhappily it becomes law, there is no longer any workable Constitution to keep the Congress within the limits of its constitutional powers."

-- Congressman James Beck in Congressional Record 1933.

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The following are excerpts from the Senate Report, 93rd Congress, November 19, 1973, Special Committee On The Termination Of The National Emergency United States Senate. They were going to terminate all emergency powers, but they found out they did not have the power to do this so guess which one stayed in, the Emergency Act of 1933, the Trading with the Enemy Act October 6, 1917 as amended in March 9, 1933.

"Since March 9, 1933, the United States has been in a state of declared national emergency....Under the powers delegated by these statutes, the President may: seize property; organize and control the means of production; seize commodities; assign military forces abroad; institute martial law; seize and control all transportation and communication; regulate the operation of private enterprise; restrict travel; and, in a plethora of particular ways, control the lives of all American citizens."

"A majority of the people of the United States have lived all of their lives under emergency rule. For 40 (now 63) years, freedoms and governmental procedures guaranteed by the Constitution have, in varying degrees, been abridged by laws brought into force by states of national emergency....from, at least, the Civil War in important ways shaped the present phenomenon of a permanent state of national emergency."

-- Senate Report, 93rd Congress, November 19, 1973

You may be asking yourself is this the law, and if so where is it, read the following: In Title 12 U.S.C, in section 95b you'll find the following codification of the Emergency War Powers:

"The actions, regulations, rules, licenses, orders and proclamations heretofore or hereafter taken, promulgated, made, or issued by the President of the United States or the Secretary of the Treasury since March 4, 1933, pursuant to the authority conferred by subsection (b) of section 5 of the Act of October 6, 1917, as amended (12 U.S.C., 95a), are hereby approved and confirmed."

-- (March 9, 1933, c. 1, Title 1, 1, 48 Stat. 1)

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Question for MH /MK

by Lonewolf

Just a thought, if your theory is indeed correct and Patty was shot in 67, JG and friends buried the evidence for fear of prosecution, I would think that as science and DNA testing has advanced in 42 years that JG would have at some point gotten a positive DNA test performed with hair or possibly preserved tissue.
Now, the fact that not he or anyone else for that matter has positively declared BF a reality then can one assume that BF is indeed human?

For your theory to be correct, which it very well may be,then BF would have to be more human than animal.
Does this seem logical?

Also one more thought since we are on the subject of DNA, has anyone ever taken DNA from Gigantopithicus bones to use as a control sample, and if it has been done then hair for instance should be a match if it is indeed Giganto. If it does not match giganto it very well could come back as human.
I personally believe it is more an animal than a human, but without a body, who knows for sure?

Please let me know your thoughts.

P.S. Happy Easter to all!

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Gigantopithicus

by Crispy Critter

Who was it that decided Gigantopithicus was a BF relative? Was it from one of Coleman's books? I mean, I really don't know the origin of it.

I've never been convinced about it. If memory serves - isn't some teeth the only thing that has been found - and using them - they created the Gigantopithicus.

I would think however, there are several different critters out there. Maybe related, might not be.

From MK's work and from CA Indian folklore I've read, and some accounts from the first settlers out here - I'm inclined to think the Patty creature is most likely a near extinct sub-human tribe.

I also believe that "Patty" is not what the Sasquatch is, nor is it what roams around in the South.

My humble opinion.





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Grover Krantz (nt)

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nt

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Grover Krantz...

by Monster Hunter

I spoke with Dr. Krantz several times via telephone...cordial man that adamantly thought the gait of Patty could not be imitated by man...he was wrong...as he was on many items he considered BF...BTW...Dr. Krantz was pro-kill as is John Green...





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Interesting comment....

by Pywacket

"BTW.....Dr. Krantz was 'pro-kill as is John Green'... "

Imagine that! happy.gif

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The Good Dr. wrong.

by Beowulf 50

The Good Dr. was Wrong ,and Monster Hunter is Right.
seems to be a common theme around here.
Beowulf

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Facts are facts...

by Monster Hunter

The theme I maintain is finding the truth without regard to personal feelings...and if you feel as if I have offended you...simple process...don't read my posts...

Posted on Apr 12, 2009, 5:06 PM
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Sub-Human?

by SitesFarm

I'm inclined to think the Patty creature is most likely a near extinct sub-human tribe.

I'm inclined to agree. In fact, that is the conclusion Ivan T. Sanderson came to over 45 years ago as well. If you haven't already read Abominable Snowmen: Legend Come to Life do yourself a favor and read it. I've read the book several times over the last 25 years and each time I do, despite all the "new" information gathered on these creatures, I'm astounded at how much he got right.

He posited at least 5 different "types" of hairy bipedal man-like creatures throughout the world ranging from undiscovered great apes to surviving populations of the genus homo who are NOT homo sapiens. If I recall correctly, he would not venture a guess as to what was lurking in the river bottoms of the South . . . too weird and "bestial" for his taste. A curious response from a guy who had no problem saying Neandertals still roam the Caucasus.

That Patty was one of these I am almost positive. She was human, just not like us.





    
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The book is available on line...Free

by Monster Hunter

Abominable Snowmen, Legend Come to Life
by Ivan T. Sanderson

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Follow the below link...

http://www.sacred-texts.com/lcr/abs/index.htm

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You'll get no argument from me...

by Monster Hunter

I simply don't know what these men killed at Bluff Creek...but something stopped them from bringing a body out...

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Friday May 8th- Sunday morning the 10th of may

by DonDon

is going to be the date set for the Mississippi Meeting. The location will be at a new place for me but it has had encouters in the past. Least the general area has. I'll get down before the get together and do come scouting to see what all is there. They do have walking trails and such with a smallish lake 12-15 acres. It'll be fun just to see everyone again!!!! Email me and let me know If you're planning on coming so I can get a good grip on how much food to bring for the one meal I'll provide. The rest is up to all who come. We'll arrive friday morning and be leaving sunday late morning. Hope you can all make it.OH, this is open to anyone, not just GCBRO membership. Just some general discussion of the creature and we will do some hiking and snooping around. There are several places nearby this site that I have reports from that we may go check out as well. Bring your camping gear, your stories and we'll have some fun.
Don McDonald (DonDon)
don_1145@yahoo.com

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Might be able to make that one Don...

by Monster Hunter

so far...nothing scheduled...depends on Jake's baseball play offs...

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Jim, IGNORE my email LOL

by DonDon

I thought I put this in a new topic but I see now I didn't. Guess having 4 or 5 windows open at the same time didn't work to well this time. hehe

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Re: Question for MH /MK

by Monster Hunter

Lonewolf wrote:

Just a thought, if your theory is indeed correct and Patty was shot in 67, JG and friends buried the evidence for fear of prosecution, I would think that as science and DNA testing has advanced in 42 years that JG would have at some point gotten a positive DNA test performed with hair or possibly preserved tissue.
Now, the fact that not he or anyone else for that matter has positively declared BF a reality then can one assume that BF is indeed human?

MH wrote:

Assuming he did have it tested and it did come back as some type of animal not a relative to man...why wouldn't he produce the results?...

Lonewolf wrote:


For your theory to be correct, which it very well may be,then BF would have to be more human than animal.
Does this seem logical?

MH wrote:

IMO only...these creatures appeared to be more human then animal...therefore, why would this group of men take a chance of being prosecuted and possibly going to jail if they, the creatures, were some type of rare human?...I know I wouldn't...Besides...I'm not saying these creatures are anything more then any other species of animal...unclassified but still an animal of some sort...the red flag...why not bring a body out for discovery?...they had their reasons...

One thing I feel safe in reporting...there is not anything logical to make of any of this...

There hasn't been any DNA extracted from a Gigantopithecus to my knowledge...



    
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More hiking

by Crispy Critter

Went to look around the Lake Berryessa area today and went on a 5 mile hike up and down some hills.

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That's looking back at where we just came down from, with my tough old Dad in the picture.

This is about 50 miles due west of Sacramento, where the Coastal Range starts. I can safely say there are no Monsters living anywhere near here. I did however encounter large troops of Co-Eds. Man there is a lot of people out here.

That was a big hill!

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Re: More hiking

by farmerjoe

was that a group of large coeds, or a large group of regular coeds?

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Several

by Crispy Critter

Large groups of regular co-eds....LOL

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and where are the pics for evidense?

by DonDon

we DEMAND pics and you know what kind of pics hehehe

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you know

by Crispy Critter

Don, them co-eds are a mighty elusive lot.

Sure I seen them. But I didn't get any pictures of them. They were too quick for me. Maybe I'll go back and set out my game cam this weekend......

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The Sniper and results of his shots...

by Monster Hunter

In the below still you can clearly see there is not a wound to this creatures back...

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In this animation you can see movement...the sniper steps out from the tree to his left...

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He fires his weapon at the creature we all know as Patty...no doubt in my mind the shooter is left handed...BTW...I understand Dahinden was left handed...may or may not be since this is grape vine information...

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The wound appears on her back...a frontal entry shot...by the wound itself I can see the wound is caused by a metal jacket bullet or possibly a lead that didn't expand or didn't completely go through the creature...

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This creature is feeling the impact of the shot...you can clearly see the wound as she begins going down...

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The final results...she begins going down...the wound is severe...without proper balance and with the nervous system shutting down she can't catch herself and eventually goes down to her butt...

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Meldrum and his so called mid-tarsal break...

by Monster Hunter

Is nothing more then a pressure ridge...most of us old timers knew this creature was a heel to toe walker...In loose sand, as there was at Bluff Creek, the toe's push as it steps...this is not a mid-tarsal break...it's caused by pressure of the toes...I'm warning you...just because he has initials before his name doesn't mean he knows what he is talking about...and in this case...he is dead axx wrong...

These Monsters here do have what I call a hinge foot...they can step from the road ditch to the incline and leave a complete track...something like you are able to do with your hand...when quadruped the hinged foot allows them to walk on all fours without pressure on the ligaments in the heel to calf area leaving about three quarters of their overall foot length...that's not science and I don't have the initials before or after my name...but I do have a hell of a lot experience in tracking these critters...

BTW...I know Meldrum has a blind following by folks who have no idea or experience with these Creatures...if what we or I put on our forum is offensive to you then I suggest you don't come back...

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In the large animated photo, second from last

by Ruby Red

I saw blood on her back near the exit wound. That Patty was shot and killed saddens me very much; she was sacrificed and for what purpose? The men responsible have managed for over 40 years to keep Sasquatch's existence a secret when they could have come clean about it. If they had owned up to killing Patty and the others after the event, we'd know more now about these animals than we do. And, many all of the people who saw them, were scared off by them, had their prey taken by them and lived to tell their stories about them would NOT have been laughed at by main-stream (know it all) scientists.

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I bet John boy is squirming in his seat...

by Monster Hunter

He knows if he appears at any function hard questions will be asked...the question needed asked is why did you not bring a corpse in for discovery?...

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Another amusing quote from an article...

by Monster Hunter

Possible male if it has a crest?...what the hell do they call those things flopping when it walks?...damn scientists and experts drive me nuts...what's scary...some folks actually believe these idiots...

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Something else that many believe...

by Monster Hunter

No neck movement caused by muscles or lack of neck...

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We're in good company.

by Rick Tullos

Sometimes when you feel down about the Bigfoot stuff and you feel ridiculed by your classmates or co-workers etc,it's good to know that we are in good company.

Here is a tape of an audio interview with world renowned primatologist Dr Jane Goodall and her take on the existence of Bigfoot.


And if that doesn't work, go here.
http://gcbro2.ning.com/video/interview-with-dr-jane-goodall



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Didn't work here...

by Monster Hunter

But it did on the other forum/site done by our little buddy....Mr. Rick Tullos...BTW Rick...excellent job...

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Blue Creek Tracks...

by Monster Hunter

Look these tracks over closely...we have the large track with two different size tracks...

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Patterson has casts of them all...

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That shot of Patterson

by Ruby Red

chills my blood! Those what-ever-they-weres never stood a chance! sad.gif

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They said they didn't hear any sounds from the creature...

by Monster Hunter

It certainly appears she is giving someone a good talking to...

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Do you think this type of BF might have basic or full language skills?

by Cindy



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At least...communication skills...

by Monster Hunter

From my personal experiences I know they verbalize back and forth...it was not any more then mumbling to me but the two I heard walking down the creek seemed to understand each other...I've tried to find foreign along with American Indian languages that sounded similar without any luck...





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I put this up yesterday...

by Monster Hunter

When the legs go and you see that axx headed to the ground...it's just a matter of waiting until the creature gives up the ghost...

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Just In...a Kitty and Bambi...

by Monster Hunter

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A few Seconds after the back wound...

by Monster Hunter

This creature is feeling the full impact of the killing shot...

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Frame 352...

by Monster Hunter

Why did Patty look back at the person filming...notice person...MK and I believe this part of the film was taken with the camera Green has since this part of the film is crystal clear compared to the other film...Green, the suspected editor, overlooked the bloody dog print...

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Yes, this is where she was wounded in the thigh but did that cause her to look back or was she reacting to the dog going nuts?...


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You never know what you'll catch at a watering hole...

by Monster Hunter

With a game camera...

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We have discussed the youngster track...

by Monster Hunter

That Patterson proudly displays with other much larger castings but I haven't put up a photo of the youngsters track in the road...I'm sure some have raked me over the coals when I mentioned the youngster being possibly shot and killed when I didn't know there was a youngster during this time frame...

The below picture of Patterson and casts....he has a casting of the large and smaller track in the second photo...

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Size

by M.K. Davis

Regarding the small tracks there on the road and in the casts, I wonder how big the youngster was? It looks as if it were being carried, as its track appeared sporadically. It must have been heavy enough to readjust frequently as it was being carried, it being placed on the ground here and there. What do you think? M.K.

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If the tracks appear every now and then...

by Monster Hunter

there is no doubt the big creature is helping the smaller one get some ground...

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Love it,

by Grumpy

wanna bet that flash triggering made someone wet their pants...... on the last shot.

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Nice kitties and critters!n/t

by Cindy



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Re: You never know what you'll catch at a watering hole...

by Russ

That last picture at the watering hole is especially scary!

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Great shots MH

by Lonewolf

Too bad the appearance of the mountain lion didn't coincide with the group of two legged trespassers....

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Cougar and illegal aliens at the watering hole at the same time...

by Monster Hunter

we would call that a food plot...

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Great pictures MH

by

The picture of the big kitty with his lunch was a real surprise. Hey, who are the dudes in the last watering hole pic? I felt sorry for the little piggy with his mom,he was too short for a nice cool drink! Btw, it was great chatting again with you.

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Dudes at the watering hole...

by Monster Hunter

Illegal aliens that crossed the border...good talking to you as well Nellie...

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Er...was the final shot of the "old watering hole"

by Ruby Red

taken of, shall we say, illegal visitors from a country south of the U.S.? Hmmm! Were these great photos taken with your game cam or someone else's? Inquiring minds wish to know. wink.gif

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No...not my camera...N/t

by Monster Hunter

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Flipping Propaganda heading over the airwaves

by Crispy Critter

http://newsbusters.org/blogs/scott-whitlock/2009/04/08/abc-gun-special-dismiss-idea-using-guns-self-defense

God, I cannot believe this is the country I grew up in.

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Yes, the media is a tool

by J

If you want to change things first you have to get the population thinking in the direction you want them too, then when everyone is properly brainwashed, you just do it.

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The media

by Ruby Red

helped change the direction of that thinking by their actions and some inaccuracies that they printed. But of course most news people and reporters won't agree with that observation. happy.gif

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Oh my

by Crispy Critter

This is a must see for everyone. This is in Texas - but I'm willing to bet this happens in every state.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DsLw-GEEk0Y

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Sorry Crispy they pulled it!!!!!! n/t

by Grumpy

n/t

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it's back up..............................................no textiles

by Crispy Critter

nt

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Here we go again........

by Crispy Critter

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/04/09/us/politics/09immig.html?_r=1&hp

12 million? that's the number they used 4 years ago. I've heard it's well over 20 million these days.

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Meet the new Boss - same as the old Boss

by Crispy Critter

http://www.reuters.com/article/marketsNews/idUSN0930196920090409

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090409/ap_on_go_pr_wh/obama_war_costs_votes_1

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/iraq/article6069734.ece

http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2009/04/09/1886824.aspx

And then on the the kooky.............

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090408/ap_on_sc/sci_obama_science_adviser


I remember reading about when the government was "seeding" clouds to cause rain - created one of the worst storms to hit the eastern seaboard and killed something like 150 folks. Who knows what this will do............

This has noting do do with the above - but I'd like to suggest we all ask our Rep's to support it.

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=94418

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Government, Guns, and new taxes

by Crispy Critter

For any one who thought your right to bear arms was safe - it isn't.

http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/10070

These folks have been manipulating the media to make guns look bad - so they can push their agenda through. They are using their bogus "facts" to try to turn public opinion so that can do what they want to do - leading to disarming us all.

And for all the folks that said - hey raising Taxes on Cig's isn't a bad thing - because you don't smoke - I hope you don't drink soda's either.

http://blogs.wsj.com/health/2009/04/08/time-for-soda-tax-backers-want-to-cut-obesity-aid-budgets/

I realize this is New York, for now. Just remember the smoking in public bans started in NY. Now it's in every state in some form.

They should be making aspartame illegal. That is the crap they put into diet soda's. It causes Alzheimers. Look it up.

You might also want to look up Fluoride. They have been dumping it into our water for years. It is a rat poison. The Soviets and the Nazi's both used it in the Gulags / concentration camps - they discovered it helped keep the prisoners docile.



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Docile my A**!!!

by Grumpy

I only have two (2) cigarettes left and they will be gone soon, am not paying the new tax, going cold turkey as of tomorrow morning when I wake up, if I wake up......LOL, been smoking for over 45 years, now they are going to know how I got my nickname......

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I'm with you Grumpy............nt

by Crispy Critter

nt

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Don Don

by Torrey

I sent you an email a few days back. Hope I had the right address. Did it arrive?

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Torrey, yeh, I got it and sent you one back.

by DonDon

Sent it the next morning after you sent me one. Jst sent you another one pedro with my phone number

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sorry for this late reply. I've been out of connection range for a few days.

by Torrey

For some reason I am not getting your emails. Are you sending them by replying , or by creating a new email? Either way it should work. I can't figure why they are not arriving.

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Has anyone read this bigfoot story yet?

by


http://www.alabamabigfoot.com/bigfoot/reports/RFPreport59.html



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Sorry we can't view that forum since most of us are banned... n/t

by Grumpy

n/t

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Yes, it's a good one....

by Lou

Tal H. Branco does a fine job over there at Alabama Bigfoot. He also does a lot of Arkansas investigating. His reports are always thorough and well-written. Definitely my 2nd-favorite BF site.

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Now its China and Iran in a nuke plot

by Cindy

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/2009/04/07/2009-04-07_iranian_nuke_plot_vaporized_in_the_city_-2.html?45

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The F-22 fighter: Another $64 Billion entitlement program for military contractors

by Lou


http://www.counterpunch.org/f22.html

"The Pentagon does not know how much it spends", says Senator Charles Grassley, the Iowa Republican who now heads the Senate Armed Services committee. "It does not know if it gets what it orders in goods and services. And the Pentagon, additionally, does not have a handle on its inventory. If the Pentagon does not know what it owns and spends, then how does the Pentagon know if it needs more money? Ramping up the Pentagon budget when the books are a mess is highly questionable at best. To some it might seem crazy."


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There are part of the government right?

by Crispy Critter

Same government who runs the worlds biggest Ponzie Scheme - Social Security (which is bankrupt right now from all the congressional pilfering)

Same Government who calls not spending as much as they forecast - a tax break.

Same folks who don't read the spending bills they sign?

Same folks who's system of book keeping and accounting would land any of us in prison for life if we tried it?

Same folks that have run up an 11 trillion dollar deficit - and are now adding another 10 to 15......

Same folks that just print money to suit their whims....

Well I can see how they'd overlook a few things......LOL

It won't matter here soon - we are about to go under as a Country.

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just a note about jets

by woodswatcher

granted there is a tremendous amount of waste in Govt. but, we normally get above and beyond out of our jets. the F-22 is the next air superiority weapon for the next 25 years.

look at the history of military aircraft. once the massive R&D costs as well as start up is over, we kick them out fairly cheap if you realize that they are running 24/7 for the next 25-30 years.

look at the B-52, the F-15, F-16,even the expensive B1 and B2 series.

hell, the Australian Gov wanted 100 F-22's, all of our Allies were very interested as well. the more plans you produce, cheaper the cost. we could probably sell 500-1000 F-22 to those countries bonded with us in blood.

i think cutting the F-22 program is a horrible idea. economically as well as militarily.

no back to monkee talk.

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90,000 jobs to be lost with cuts

by Crispy Critter

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/first100days/2009/04/07/defense-cuts-prompt-protests-lawmakers-concerned-job-loss/

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That's all part of the plan

by Lou

First of all, just because 90,000 people have jobs that have something to do with the F-22 doesn't mean they're fired if it is canned. If they are worth their salt they will be working on some other military or non-military hardware or software. This is one of the propaganda/scare tactics that the military-industrial complex employs to keep themselves feeding on the government teat. (Just ask Ike Eisenhower, he saw this coming a long time ago.)
Second, jobs lost should not be part of the rationale for keeping a production program.
Smacks of socialism. Should we bail out Detroit just to save all those auto industry jobs?


By the way, do you think it's just an accident that the F-22 is manufactured and assembled in several different states? That way more Senators and Congressmen have a vested interest in keeping the program afloat to soothe their constituents. Oh so clever.....



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Just passing on information Lou....LOL

by Crispy Critter

I thought we sold a lot of them planes to our allies? I could be wrong. But if we did - makes perfect government sense to shut it down. Kill the money making programs - increase the spending ones.

Not sure how much more the good folks are willing to take. Out here in Fruit Loopville - I am surprised to say that I have run into a lot of folks that have about had enough of everything. Local, State, and Federal Governments are all acting coo-coo. And they are all bankrupt. The stimulus money that was sent to the states bailed them out for a little bit. But they haven't changed what got them into the mess, in fact they are spending more on dumb stuff, now that they got free money. And everyone, including the Federal folks are raising taxes everywhere they can.

Odd, I haven't seen anything about masses of tea bags hitting DC - just the articles about the one guy who got busted. Pretty sure they got a few tons of them. Not a peep.

Well, the Boss is back - so I guess I need to see what he and little Tim Guitner are hatching up today...LOL

The news is all gun crimes and pirates - so I'm sure something dubious is going on in Washington...LOL






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and the infrastructure

by woodswatcher

for other R and D projects.

bummer

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Speaking of

by Crispy Critter

How the government keeps its books. There are generally 2 sets (probably more).

One set they show us - the other they don't want us to see.

The official unemployment rate on the set of books they show us right now is 8.5%

The other set - which is the true number on the government books is 15.5% right now. This set of books actually counts the folks who no longer get unemployment benefits, and still aren't working. These books still don't count the folks who don't apply or don't qualify. So it is probably a little bit higher still.

So the next time they toss around a number - add about 7% points to it - and that should be an fairly accurate number of unemployment out there.

Read today Blockbuster is going under.

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Say goodbye to another 4 trillion

by Crispy Critter

http://abcnews.go.com/Business/Economy/story?id=7283059&page=1

They just can't print it fast enough.

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More sunshine and lollypops

by Crispy Critter

http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/bus/stories/040509dnbusbenefits.182829d.html

True unemployment for last month - is actually 16% - and is expected to rise

http://www.bls.gov/news.release/empsit.t12.htm

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Facts about Mexican guns from the same site

by Florida Redneck

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/elections/2009/04/02/myth-percent-guns-mexico-fraction-number-claimed/

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Farm resrictions

by Crispy Critter

I am really against this. Here is a quick little video sand a bunch of links to back it up.

http://www.breakthematrix.com/index.php?q=node/34557

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Vehicle muncher strikes again!

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http://www.wcnc.com/news/topstories/stories/wcnc-040209-mw-suv_attack.97e48e12.html

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I can see a track(s)...

by Moderator

But can't make them out...looks dog but I'm not sure...seems the photographer would have taken better photos of the tracks unless of course he wanted this to be another mystery car attack...

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I was out hilking

by Crispy Critter

At Mount Diablo, in the coastal range near San Francisco today.A very pretty place. Tonight I started looking up some stuff form there and found this report from 1823.

A very low-grade of Indians used to inhabit this region. Dr. Marsh described
them as being very hairy and full-bearded, with short, broad faces, wide noses
and mouths, thick lips, extremely low foreheads; the hair of the head nearly
meeting the eyebrows, and a few having a strikingly Mongolian eye. They wore no
clothing and lived like the Diggers. Epidemic diseases decimated them, and
civilization completed their destruction. Their music was described by a graphic
writer thus: "A thousand cross-cut saws filed by steam power, a multitude of
tom-cats lashed together and flung over a clothes-line, innumerable pigs under a
gate, all combined, would produce a heavenly music compared to it!" Of their
filth he says: "Talk of the thousand stinks of the city of Cologne! here are at
least 40,000 combined in one grand overwhelming stench, and yet every particular
odor definable;" and oh, such convulsions as they would have in their dances,
with the sweat streaming from every pore!

Does any of this sound familiar to anyone?


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At first Scott...

by Monster Hunter

I thought you were describing Pelosi...but yes that is interesting information...I looked a bit early this morning without any success but keep digging...I know there is more information about this clan of people that very few are familiar with...

BTW...the writer mentioned digger...hope the thief doesn't get wind of it...he'll call the man a damn racist...one thing I want the thief to understand...you prank with any of us at anytime I will not forget...it would be to your best interest to keep your jaw from flapping...next time I'll not only put up Byrnes letter how you stole his pictures along with a copy of your cancelled check...I'm going to send it to these morons who do these documentaries that call you an expert...

BTW...I know you have seen the posts about the Patterson/Gimlin and Green films....you're biting at the bit to write some filth as if you have made a major discovery....I see one word on your whatever the hell you have and I'll begin my crusade...and it ain't going to be nice...

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Happy Easter!

by Ruby Red

To everyone associated with this great research organization and to friends who frequent its message board. May you all have a safe and blessed day. happy.gif

Ruby Red and Silver Fox happy.gif

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More tea bags cause problems

by Crispy Critter

http://www.infowars.com/man-arrested-for-mailing-tea-to-house-rep/

Isn't this the same Rep from the other ruckus?????

I am waiting for them to come and give me a visit - I sent them to everyone...LOL All the CA folks including Pelosi. And the White House. I would have sent more but I ran out of stamps,

Homeland Insecurity here I am.

Come and get me.



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Yannetti arrested for Shea-Porter's stupidity. Pitiful.

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Hum. Ahem. That was me.

by Cindy



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Yeah I knew...

by Monster Hunter

figured you had a moment of CRS...no big deal...

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Just curious,

by Lonewolf

as I have followed the Patty gunshot/murder theory I just do not see a lot of the evidence as it has been presented.

My favorite is the "dog reflection in the bloody pool" To me the liquid in the animation is obviously clear not red.
The small branch in the pool shows no red, and the reflection of the dog would be red toned or pinkish in the reflection not white as it appears in the animation.

Back to my curiosity, MH are you or MK planning on having a scientific, independent lab analyse your photos, videos , and theories?

My opinion is just that my opinion. As an avid wildlife and landscape photographer, I do know a little about photos, and photo enhancements. With that said, I am by no means an expert, but would love to see what an expert would say, if he had nothing to gain by his conclusions.

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Below is your favorite...

by Monster Hunter

[linked image]

I made sure I included Titmus with his rifle to satisfy the folks who think these men are on a casual stroll...


No, I have no intentions of having anyone look at these stills, animations or video...this is MKs train so I'll let him rob it the way he sees fit...I have shown the animations of wounds to friends who I know are hunters and woodsmen...yes, they understand guns, wounds and killings...

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It is what it is

by M.K.Davis

First of all, I'd like to establish that I am an independent lab. Everything that I have done, in the way of looking at this event has been independently done. Not under anyone elses auspices. Science is is the "truth" in its simplest form. It is a means to an end, and not the end itself. It is a way to explain the natural world around us. This is a wonderful thing, unless it becomes a tool to complicate and cloud issues. This is certainly possible and does take place often. The first modern person to do this, was Ales Hrdlicka, the first "anthopologist" at the Smithsonian museum. Hrdlicka was practitioner of homeopathic medicine, ( home remedies ), who had an interest in anthropology. He billed himself as a medical "doctor". He traveled abroad, and returned with a certificate in "anthropology", and applied for employment with the Smithsonian. He was not hired, and he worked for "free" for a year with I think,at the American Museum, in New York. He then used that experience to get on with the Smithsonian, and was able to beat up the competition, and make it to the top job as head over the newly formed dept. of anthropology. When I say, "beat up" I mean Mr. Hrdlicka prided himself in the use of the high sounding latin jargon and titlements that were common in scientific circles. In those days, such jargon was used among the knowlegeable, but the layterms were used for the public, for the edification and so that lay people would understand. Hrdlicka broke ranks with that and took the jargon straight to the public with no regard for the layman. He became a master at it. This had the effect of making him sound above questioning and without knowing what it was that he was talking about, few would challenge him. Mr. Hrdlicka was a believer in "Eugenics". He believed that the intellectual potential of man could be determined by physical characteristics such as the "shape" of the head. He classified people according to the slope of the forehead. The shortest, and so, in his opinion, the least intellectual were what he called "brachycephalic" people. He hid his prejudices behind such jargon, and was able to sell his policies and beliefs to the United States in their efforts to solve the problems with Native Americans of the day. This resulted in the mass slaughter of Native Americans and their treatment as "less than human" for the survivors. Mr. Hrdlicka was able, under the auspices of the Smithsonian, to collect the skeletons of thousands of Native Americans, in order to "prove" his Eugenicist ideologies. Why did he need "thousands" of skeletons??? Because his ideas were "WRONG", yet...he was able to sell these notions... which many became policies....using SCIENCE. Not real science, as was originally developed to simplify and give us understanding, but a pseudo-science of his own invention that was designed to confuse and overwhelm. The Smithsonian now has over 18,000 Native American skeletons, and they are not under any law or compulsion to give them back. Mr.Hrdlicka had the very last Native American to live wild and independent, Ishee's brain cut out of his head at his death, and delivered to the Smithsonian. This was in spite of Ishee's request not to be autopsied. The brain floated in a vat of over 30 other brains, until anthopologist Orin Starn was able to help Native American groups get it back for burial with Ishee's other remains. The Smithsonian at first lied and said they did not even have the brain, until correspondence was produced between Hrdlicka and anthropologist Alfred Kroeber about the brain being removed and sent there. They then gave in and returned it.
So...do you have the hiccups?...or do you have "spasmodic jerking of the diaphragm"? Do you step out of the tent?...or do you "extricate" yourslelf from your temporary abode? Remember true science is a means to an end, and not the end itself. When the "science" becomes the point of fascination in a persons speaking engagements, then there is mis direction, and the facts become disparate and disconnected, and incongrous.
I have presented what I have in its very simplest and easiest to understand and factual way. It is mostly in imagery, which, as you know, is worth many,many words. It is "ALREADY" in its SIMPLEST form. As for me... I feel as if I have been taken to the prison gate with 20 dollars and a bus ticket, and the clothes on my back, and told " Mr. Davis... you are a free man." M.K.

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my opinion

by scott from philly

is not with any of your work....

It is simple....I am just at a loss at how seemingly these guys, had at least A body (and probably several), and could have ended the mystery 40 years ago, instead of making it more mysterious....

They got what we want, a body of indisputable evidence, and then covered it up....

Makes no sense to me how they have (the surviving ones) made money off of books, showing of the PG film, etc, and they pitched the mother lode which was the body....I just dont get that part....instead of covering it up, if they were afraid of murder charges, hell make up the story they were attacked by 8 ft 600 lb monsters....just seems for a supposed "intellectual" crew, they werent very smart about whole thing

Me personally, I could care less about making a nickel off it should I have the good fortune of being in shooting range, with the proper artillery again.....My satisfaction with being able to touch what some say doesnt exist, and been told personally im nuts for saying I saw is good enough

keep the work up MK.....pressure will cause the ones that were there to crack sooner or later

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You, go, M.K.

by Ruby Red

You don't owe anyone an explanation for your science; however, I enjoyed reading about the pseudo-scientist and what he got away with for so long. He will have a lot of 'splaining to do' before the Great White Throne.

But to you, I say--keep doing what you are doing, and in the way you are doing it! When people question your science which produced your conclusions; just smile! Offer explanations, if you must BUT only IF you want to!

Happy Easter to you and yours!
Ruby and Silver happy.gif

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Lonewolf always asks antagonistic questions.

by Sasquatch Hunter

In my honest opinion.
You couldn't show him a pic of a dead deer on the side of the road without him making some sort of implication that it was a dog!

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Being skeptic is healthy...

by Monster Hunter

I see nothing wrong in questions concerning any evidence...but let us not turn a blind eye when we inspect evidence...

BTW...I am not attempting to convince anyone of anything....what I put up I do voluntarily using my description of what I can see, read from reports and from years of experience...I'm not after any one man nor is MK...what we want is simply the truth...IMO...the answer to the Sasquatch was solved over forty years ago but yet we still spend our time to solve a myth that has been solved...

There are reasons a corpse wasn't presented to science...what were the reasons?...John Green cancelled Yakima...why?...yes, I understand he has health problems but he had the same problems when he accepted the invitation...I'll not be surprised to see Gimlin refuse any public appearances since he'll know the questions concerning his involvement will be asked...

The evidence that puts Patterson, Gimlin along with Green's party is the bloody dog print...no doubt over looked by the editor of the film...

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Titmus...Green...along with the dog and handler...

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Sasquatch Hunter,

by Lonewolf

contrary to your opinion, I am only asking questions to better understand the evidence presented.
I agree with MH that being skeptical in this area of research is healthy.
I have a lot of respect for both MH and MK for their efforts,research, and the patience that they both show me and other posters that ask questions.

The very fact that MH is cordial enough to answer my questions tells me he has an honest belief in his research and could really give a damn to disrespectful doubters that are out to discredit him and MK of which I am not.

I will continue to follow the evidence as it develops and hope that MH and MK present their evidence as they see fit when they deem appropriate.

Whether or not I or anyone else believes 100% of the evidence presented is irrelevent in the big scheme of things. I just hope that the whole truth comes out.

P.S. I can usually tell the difference between a deer and a dog.


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Thanks Lonewolf

by M.K.Davis

...for giving me a break on this one. It has been hard on me these last few months when this was all coming together. Sometimes, when a person looks hard enough, they find what they are looking for. Sometimes it's not what is expected either. That seems to be the case here. I'll catch second wind shortly I hope, and more will be accomplished, but I think it's important for the sake of those who are interested, that they get a look at what's on the table now. Some people appreciate what they see, and others spurn it, but it is not my decision to make. Here it is...for one and all. The PGT film with explanation. M.K.

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MK, some of us really appreciate what you've done

by DonDon

Good ole boy from Mississippi has done good!!!!

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Yep

by Ruby Red

M.K. knows how to 'git 'er done!' Keep up the great work.

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work

by scott from philly

is excellent....those who bash you elsewhere will owe you a big apology when real story comes out, and with pressure, it will
Fake suits and bad documentaries wont do it, and havent....Evidence that film was tampered with, and analization the ind you have been doing, kind of hard to refute it

it's what in the hell was in the minds of the crew there when it happened that has me baffled



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Fear I'm guessing

by Crispy Critter

Probably thought (and maybe rightly so) they would be brought up on murder charges.

Tamper with the film to cut out any incriminating evidence. Tech at the time - would have looked good.

Try to make money off the film, while not being indited for mass murder.

Makes perfectly good sense.

Inter fighting and power plays probably explain the rest of the 40 year mess...LOL

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You're Welcome MK,

by Lonewolf

The fact that you and MH respect healthy well intended questions, add a great deal of legitimacy to your belief in what you are doing, and your intentions.

People need to realize that when people are serious about their research, they have nothing to hide which is apparent here.
MK,MH, keep up the good work!

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OK who's using my handle?

by Rick Tullos

Jeez Louise,I step out for a while and somebody runs off with my alias,,,LOL!
Well one of them that is,,LOL.

Good questions lonewolf.

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Question about the P/G/T film

by brent

I am just learning of the information MK is presenting regarding the Patty film. Can someone here tell me the timeline of all these events. From the day one or prior of bluff creek to presenting the film. I would love to learn more about the history of the events.

1. Was both films made at the same time?
2. I once read that the timeline regarding the develoment/processing of the patty film is almost impossible. They say it couldnt be developed that quickly.
3. Was the weight estimated from the impressions in the sand and foot casting.
4. Any other info that might be interesting.

Thanks, I know it is alot of info, but I am not sure where else to get it from.





    
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Most of the information you asked for...

by Monster Hunter

is here on the forum...may be a few months old but you can find most of your answers by reading the past threads...

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White Shepherd mows lawns

by Cindy

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/howaboutthat/5100332/Hope-the-white-German-Shepherd-takes-a-spin-round-the-lawn.html

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Good looking dog...

by Monster Hunter

That's exactly what I need to do...teach dogs to mow and a couple to weed eat...

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A couple of goats will keep the weeds down MH. LOL/nt

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I've considered that Darrel...

by Monster Hunter

my wife hasn't...I do live in a Democratic home...unfortunately my vote doesn't count...

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Hey Jim you seen ANY

by DonDon

of those Chickens that were set free when we we over to see you? Was thikning about them the other day and curious if they were still hanging around. 1 in the bottoms and what? 2 up near the camp site?

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Fed them some corn late Sunday afternoon after everyone left...

by Monster Hunter

found scattered feathers not far from our camp...I would think they are now in chicken heaven...

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Figured as much but

by DonDon

was curious

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I'd forgotten all about those chickens....Dam CRS.. n/t

by Grumpy

n/t

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Hey Rob up in MI...

by

You need one of these to mow your property! Imagine the look on the monsters' faces when they see your new lawnmower!

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Known Groups of BF

by Terry

Here are the folks who post here that have known populations of bf animals in their area:

Monster Central Folks (Gulf)
Timberghost (Oklahoma)
Rob (Michigan)
Sliva (New Hampshire)

Is there anyone else I'm missing?

Sounds to me like a good representation so far of Eastern U.S.A. and we have to assume there are more areas like them. Maybe it's time to have a select group that includes a journalist, scientist and appropriate others visit these locations with a guide for each area and do a proper analysis that suits them. That is if we are serious about having these animals recognized as existing. Should be able to convince them with all the activity in those areas.

t.


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Though we have had scientists along with animal biologists...

by Monster Hunter

Undeniable proof is a corpse...I'll not spend my time entertaining someone I don't know attempting to convince them of these Monsters...

The wildlife biologists has been all over the world tagging and monitoring animals but heard noises and smelled a stench here he has never heard or smelled...doesn't prove a damn thing but it did peek his interest...I put him down by the shot gun stand where there has been sightings along with vocalizations...we heard something banging/whacking on metal...the bionic bird whistle damn near as loud as I've ever heard it and he heard something he couldn't describe...

Now...guess what?...didn't prove one damn thing...need a corpse...



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Seems to me

by Crispy Critter

That idea has been done. Complete with a TV documentary.

Can't get the info in a day or two - and that is all you can get from any of the folks you list.

The critters don't work on a time table - least not one that I have figured out.

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We all know that won't work

by DonDon

First off, no scientist would show up., Least one that has any crudentials and would be believed by his or her fellow scientists. Just not going to happen. NO way is science gonna believe anything about these creatures without a body on the table. Well, whatever body part I decide to let them see once I put one down. LOL They have enough evidense in my opinion right now to prove them. DNA, pictures, all kinds of recordings, sure there are several other things they have that could prove their existance. They're just not gonna believe it or really ever care to want to believe it unless they have one laying in front of them on a table.

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I had the chance to listen to the 3/31 broadcast this morning.

by Cindy

Well done MK. Most excellent!

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I guess he got lucky Cindy...

by Monster Hunter

Funny how lucky folks get when they know exactly what they are talking about...

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New World Order is emerging

by Crispy Critter

That's what Gorden Brown said yesterday at the G-20 closing speech.

Our government just gave away the keys to our financial engine. Oddly enough, here in the states they lifted the "mark to market" rule. This rule was an accounting regulation that was put into effect a couple of years ago - and is what caused the "toxic" assets on the bank books, the banks the Government now controls. Had this rule been changed 6 months ago, this entire crises would have largely been avoided.

Odd timing I say.

This all sets the stage for the USA to be subject to International law. Which will trump the constitution and all state and Federal laws we now have.

The same way laws made by the EU trump the laws of all member countries.

The UN has been trying to strip away our right to bear arms for years - our government just opened the door up for them.

Our economy is still going to be a mess - they still need to destroy it for the next step - Russia and China are talking about going back to the gold standard. With all the $$ the FED has been printing lately and all the $$ we owe other countries - that would wipe us out overnight.

This has been the game all along, by all the groups and folks I've been pointing out.

All the hoopla and disagreements of the world leaders leading into this meeting was just a smoke screen - all of this had been agreed to before any of them arrived - They were just keeping us regular folks from knowing what they were up to.

I'm guessing they all had to get together to sign over the sovereignty of the individual countries - I would like to think they did it in blood...LOL

We got Change alright. Don't think this is what most folks voted for though.



The New World Oder has gone from conspiracy theory to G-20 agreement:

http://www.breitbart.tv/html/311353.html

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/financetopics/g20-summit/5097195/G20-summit-Gordon-Brown-announces-new-world-order.html

http://www.prisonplanet.com/new-world-order-still-a-conspiracy-theory.html

He also said, though I can't find it today somethin about - that it was time to bring the international secrecy of banking out into the open - or word to that effect.

All my favorite charities are about to get a lot of money:

http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D97ADJJO0&show_article=1

Here is a quote from the head of the World Bank on the eve of the g-20 meeting:

Zoellick noted that those who had recognised the scale of today's crisis were calling for new global governance regimes.

But the immediate challenge is to reform, empower, and use existing institutions more effectively, including by giving developing countries more representation.

"If leaders are serious about creating new global responsibilities or governance, let them start by modernising multilateralism to empower the WTO, the IMF, and the World Bank Group to monitor national policies," Zoellick said. "Bringing sunlight to national decision-making would contribute to transparency, accountability, and consistency across national policies.


This would put the final touches on destroying the dollar:

http://www.infowars.com/russia-backs-return-to-gold-standard-to-solve-financial-crisis/

More cheery news:

http://www.infowars.com/plans-for-mass-graves-confirmed-government-surveying-cemetery-readiness-for-flu-outbreak/



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And most people don't know...

by J

...that the biggest and most powerful banks in the world are in...you guessed it, China.

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by Crispy Critter

We are on the same page Brother.

The events of this week are not good for us the average US citizen.

When folks like Tom Sullivan start to go "What the Heck" and start putting the dots together....well at least I know it isn't just me.

Our Constitution is pretty much nothing more than a document from antiquity now.

It isn't about politics. It's about handing over our country to global rule - ruled by bankers who have been working for this since the inception of the Federal Reserve.

And that happened this week.

And no one seems to even notice, or care for that matter.

I don't know what pisses me off more - the fact that they did it under our nose - or the fact that no one seems to care.

Heck, bows and arrows will probably be illegal under the new world government.

Hope ya'all can bag a BF with a sling shot. Because I think that will be all that is left.

Today when I woke up - the financial folks were blowing gaskets - suddenly - a gun crime had been committed - and that took the news all flipping day.

Smoke screen?

Guns are bad - everytime they want to ban guns - a major gun crime shooting spree seems to happen to reinforce the point that guns are bad.

What is that saying....

If guns kill people - than pencils make you spell bad.....

I'm starting to think there are a lot of little Manchurian Candidates running around that the powers that be call up when they need to redirect the news.

It sure happened today.

We should have been pissed of by what our Government just did - instead - we got pissed off be some lone gun man on a shooting spree. And by the way he blocked the rear door - sounds a lot like a black OP - not a nut job.

I've had to re-evaluate a lot of things lately. And I have come to the conclusion that our Government and the powers behind it are not looking out for us.

And the folks behind this all have not made their plans secret by any means. They are very up front about it.

But they have worked it so anyone pointing out what they are doing is considered a nut job.

I thought I could retire my Tin Foil Hat - but the news overlooked what just happened - Madonna got denied for adopting another baby from an African country - for God's sake - now that is important and deserves full media
attention.

Nope - not as important as our President handing our country over to a global cartel. Who runs it - well who knows - but that ain't no big deal.

The world LIKES OBAMA, and the world likes the USA again.

Might it be because they now control our financial system?

Folks - they won't take control tomorrow. There are a few more shoes to drop first. But they will - this plan has been in the works for decades, I never thought I would see it get this far in my lifetime. But here we are.

Lou, my brother, if you really read and see what just happened, this can not be the change you wanted.

Less than 3 months in office, and we now are God knows how many Trillion dollars in debt in new debt - and have given the the Global community the right to dictate our policies.

What the heck is going to happen in the next 3 month?

I know, Bush did this and Bush did that - all part of the overall plan to where we are now. We just gave our country away. And he is very popular in Europe.

He still doesn't know where his damn socks are in the White House.

And I remind you all - the same day he gave away the keys to the country - the Mark to Market regulation was changed beck - and the house passed the multi trillion spending bill for the budget.

I did get an Email from my house rep who said he understood my concern about the massive debt this bill incurred - but I voted for it so ...Nah Nah NAh Nah
or something to that effect.

My country is of thee - sweet land of liberty

Or so it once was.











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I agree Crispy

by J

And I'm afraid it's well beyond our control. Its all subtle manipulation over time. If you put a frog in boiling water he will hop out, but if you put him in cold water and slowly turn up the heat you can cook him alive.

A one world government cannot exist. All governments are corrupt. There are no checks and balances in a single government. It's like one huge commune. And no commune has ever lasted. In the 60's and 70's hippies wanted to form communes and all live together in peace and harmony. Where are those communes today? None of them lasted. Why? People change. Things change. And the dedicated ones were pulling the load of the slackers. They got sick of that fast.

Lets look at one scenario in a one world government shall we?

Jim lives in Louisiana and wants to hunt deer. He buys a gun to hunt with. Paul in the Congo wants to hunt too so Paul buys a gun. But the Congo is filled with endangered species like Gorillas and everyone knows Paul will probably hunt them too. So, as a government you have to take Paul's gun away so he can't hunt and kill endangered species. But, as a government laws apply to all people. So if you take away Pauls gun, you have to take Jims too, it's only fair, right?

Now Jim cannot hunt, nor can Paul. The endangered species thrive in the Congo, but the deer are thriving too. Soon Jims property is overrun with deer. He needs to remove some of them. He cannot do this himself because he has no gun. He has no recourse but to turn to the government. Governments are slow. Disease enters the deer population from other domestic animals and through sheer overpopulation. It transfers to cattle and poultry.
Now you have a pandemic. The government comes in and kills off most of the deer population or all of them. They also have to kill any exposed domestic animals and all cattle and poultry that may be exposed. Famine is on the rise.

Cattle meat now has to be shipped from overseas to feed the population where the deer and other animals were removed. This is a financial burden companies and the government must bear. Problem is there isn't that much cattle to go around, so you have to take cattle from one area and move it to another. Now both areas suffer. You have thinned the population of cattle in both areas.

The price of meat skyrockets. This causes a protein deficiency in humans. It also affects jobs, many jobs especially in the food industry. Now you have a recession. Overpopulation of humans and not enough food to feed them all.

What is the governments solution? The same thing they did to the deer. Remove them. Those who do not starve to death are killed so they cannot spread disease to other more healthy humans. The medical industry is overburdened and costs skyrocket. Pharmaceutical companies suffer. In fact all industries suffer.

The government assumes control and genocide occurs. And while you are getting rid of people why not just get rid of some more folks that may be disliked for other reasons? Round them all up and put them to death.

By the way, the gorillas and other endangered species are still thriving. wink.gif

Now that this whole mess is over you have to rebuild. Someone has to do the work of rebuilding after the incident. Guess who that is? You, assuming you survived. Labor camps are formed, all under the watchful eye of the government. The one government. There is no other government out there that could be opposed to this nonsense and come rescue you. You are too few, weak and tired after the ordeal to fight back. All hope is lost.

Meanwhile the gorillas enjoy a leisurely life in the Congo. Paul was removed by the government and sent to a foreign continent to work rebuilding the world. The Congo is overrun by the once endangered species....

Now, do you REALLY want a single unified government???
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Hippies

by Crispy Critter

J said:

A one world government cannot exist. All governments are corrupt. There are no checks and balances in a single government. It's like one huge commune. And no commune has ever lasted. In the 60's and 70's hippies wanted to form communes and all live together in peace and harmony. Where are those communes today? None of them lasted. Why?

I always thought it was a lack of showers.........LOL

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Well, that too. LOL ! (nt)

by J

LOL Nt

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The devil is in the details

by Crispy Critter

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/comment/ambroseevans_pritchard/5096524/The-G20-moves-the-world-a-step-closer-to-a-global-currency.html

Now that our fearless leader has apologized for the greatness of country to every person in Europe, and apologized for us causing the global crises, and given Europe the power to regulate our business,lets see how badly he's going to give it to us at the upcoming UN Global Warming summit.

I can only expect the worst.

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Good News!

by J

Korea now has a missle and nukes, and they hate us!

Hmmm, lesee, Korea has the backing of China and they frequently give them financial aid. They now have rockets capable of reaching the good ole U.S. of A, and they have nukes. Plus they hate us. Have for a very long time. Heck, my daddy fought them.

This is not good folks. Not good at all. Another cold war? Probably but the difference between the soviets and the Koreans is huge. The soviets wanted leverage, Korea wants respect and attention.

If you go into a fight looking for advantage or leverage you can carefully place your weapons to scare the other guy into conceding. Which the USSR always did. It was like a chess game of advance and retreat.

But if you go into a fight wanting attention and respect you will make alot of noise and shoot up everything. It gets you attention and then you demand respect cause you can 'shoot up everything'.

Korea doesn't want to be a SuperPower, they want to be noticed. They are tiny, Heck Rode Island could take them.
They whine to their Chinese brethren and act all big and bad with China right next door. They want to show daddy they got balls. That is a dangerous combination when you give the kid a super weapon.

If you give your 10 year old a 308 or shotgun you have to teach him to respect it before you let him fire it. Otherwise he is likely to put someones eye out, or their whole head. LOL

China doesn't give Korea the respect lessons, they just give them money to go buy shotgun shells and assume they will play nice. How long do you think that 10 year old is gonna wait before he goes shooting up all the little furry animals in the yard? Not long I suspect.

Korea wants to make a point. They want to show off. They want to tell everyone, "My daddy let me shoot the big gun!"

So... be afraid, be very afraid. wink.gif

J.

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You know what is even worse?

by Crispy Critter

Our President differed all action to the mighty UN.

They called an emergency 3 hour meeting yesterday - and could not even agree on how to word a very stern letter to NK.

But we need to get used to it, from here on out the UN will be dictating our policies.

I would prefer we cut the UN off and toss them out of the country. But than I am a trouble maker.

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It will make me feel ssooo much better when the UN

by Cindy

sends NK a strongly worded letter after NK nukes us.

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I expect China is actually pretty much in control of NK.

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Kissenger - never our friend

by Crispy Critter

http://www.infowars.com/kissinger-again-shills-obama-and-the-new-world-order/

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And China owns

by Ruby Red

about 365 billion (or million; CRS is pretty bad) worth of our debt. That wonderful little $600 dollar re bait we got last summer was from China; the gov't. borrowed the money. Sounds like we're in trouble to me. I subbed at a high school the other day in a Speech Class. The thing I thought interesting was when a girl said that we needed to find away to start paying China back...she's right. I can hear the slave chains clanking from way over there, although I hope it never comes to that. The U.S.A. that most of us baby boomers grew up in, loved and remember fondly is IMHO gone!

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Sad thing is.....this has been coming for a loooong time!

by MikeInNC

When Bush Sr. first yapped about a "new world order" all those years ago I didn't know if he was daydreaming or if I should break out the tin foil hat! Any "illuminati" type talk was considered laughable and those who spoke of any such globalist plans were told to lay off the caffeine and get a solid 8 hours of sleep.

Now, 16 years later.....TaaaDaaaaaa!

....not enough Reynolds Wrap to go around....


It's almost like finding a BF and going to every scientist/news reader and saying, "I TOLD YOU SO! I TOLD YOU SO!"

Words fail me.

-MikeInNC

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wish I had tin foil stock

by Crispy Critter

This guy is one of the culprits, and has been an unofficial adviser to Obama.

http://moneynews.newsmax.com/streettalk/soros_global_depression/2009/04/01/198390.html

Glad he is happy.

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Something else to write congress about

by Crispy Critter

http://www.infowars.com/cybersecurity-bill-gives-obama-dictatorial-power-over-internet/

Lord they must be tired of me...LOL

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Here's a chuckle

by Timberghost

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J5z4Vs26-TI

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Yes it is Timber...n/t

by Monster Hunter

...

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I laughed until my stomach ached

by Ruby Red

What a funny funny call. I bet that telemarketer was pooping bullets...and waiting for the Littleton Police to visit. I bet he felt stupid IF he visits YouTube regularly. What a hoot!

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Something Stinks

by Okiebear

I thought this may be an April Fools Joke but it was posted today.

http://www.newson6.com/global/story.asp?s=10116586

After camping out with some of you guys I am going to start charging a tax next time. This story reminds me of the "Tax Man" off Popeye.

OB









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The EPA is as nutty as any of them...

by Monster Hunter

We need to seriously look at these morons in these committees...it's like they attempt to one up each other with idiotic ideas...bunch of damn morons...

We need to elect business professionals instead of these two bit lawyers to run our country...

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You can't tax me on our next outing

by Grumpy

I just installed a HEPA Filter, was a little painful but should work!!!!

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Grapevine News...

by Monster Hunter

John Green has rescinded his invitation to attend Yakima this year...but in fairness...he and his wife have health problems...however; he had the same health problems when he accepted the invitation...possibly he thinks questions concerning his involvement at Bluff Creek may be more then he wants to answer...

IMO...Mr. Green is avoiding answering pertinent questions about Bluff Creek...as all should be aware of...if he attended the subject would come up...

It will be interesting to see if Gimlin follows suit...

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Oh, that was a poor move on Green's part. What do politicians do?

by Cindy

Deny deny deny. If Gimlin reneges it is going to be a fait accompi that they are GUILTY as all get out. Unless Gimlin decides it is time to get things off his chest and let the truth out.

I wonder if some one threatened to sue ArtFirst radio. I've been checking and checking and it is a real disappointment the last show isn't up, yet.

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The evidence is undeniable Cindy...

by Monster Hunter

and he knows this....Gimlin knows this as well...the gunshot wounds to Patty along with the bloody dog prints...it can't be simply explained away...and I'm sure if he does attend an outing he will be quizzed...I don't remember will not be an acceptable answer with he and Green both knowing that...



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Dang, and I always thought "I forgot to pay my taxes"

by Cindy

was a good excuse.

I agree with you MH that the evidence is extremely convincing
and I do believe what ya'll are bringing to light is the real deal.

I guess I didn't word that previous comment right. Ida thought you'd be useta that by now.

Anyway, politicians have no problem denying something that is perfectly obvious.

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I doubt it

by M.K. Davis

Scott Zalasko is one of the hardest working men in radio. He also does not intimidate easily, so my guess is that he's busy. At any rate you can email him @ dj@artistfirst.com. M.K.

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It's up now...

by Monster Hunter

http://www.artistfirst.com/bigfoot2008.html

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And they lie, and lie and lie, too

by Ruby Red

n/t
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How would you like to run into one of these?

by Crispy Critter

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1166367/Fanged-deer-savages-dogs--April-Fool-joke.html

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Must be mean little devils...

by Monster Hunter

most deer would run from dogs...

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Wow. Who would have thought? The fang file

by Cindy

at the bottom of the page said they could retract the fangs too. Militant biting deer in Britain that can best a Jack Russell. Scary.

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Something MK mentioned last night on Artist First...

by Monster Hunter

The Vancouver Sun, a Canadian newspaper, sponsored John Green and his expeditions to Bluff Creek...

This would make the paper responsible for any actions taken by Green and his party excluding Patterson and Gimlim who showed up at Bluff creek unaware Green and associates were there...also excludes Titmus if he was not under any type of contract nor receiving funds from the paper...




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Here is a question

by Rob Anderson

If they killed one or more creatures what the hell did they do with carcasses?

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Good question Rob...

by Monster Hunter

If they were skinned...more then likely they buried the corpses...and yes they had access to equipment...as a matter of fact in Gimlins report he had to get a back hoe to pull his truck/horse van out of the area after it began a heavy rain...

In a mountainous region a heavy rain would wash or distort any tracks in a creek bed but yet Titmus claimed he went back nine days after the film and cast tracks...why would he wait nine days?...he lived less then thirty minutes from the area...



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Or as I said in an earlier message

by Ruby Red

the de-fleshed bones, recovered with their skins are in someone's private collection; possibly somewhere in China or Japan. It's as good a guess as any, I think. happy.gif

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My best guess is this

by Rob Anderson

They killed them for the sake of killing one. If they were truly interested in taking one for scientific studies they should have announced their spectacular find. But in an era of the Leakeys making headlines in Africa and human evolutionary tree being expanded by leaps and bounds, then if they killed one, it could blow up in their faces. I would do a hard press on all living witnesses and try to assertain the truth no matter where it leads. For me, if these creature are Gigantopithecus blackii then they are in direct violation of laws concerning endangered species. If they knew this going in then they could be prosecuted under those laws. The idea of Chinese or Japanese purchasing one is ludicris. China has its own verson and its closer to the buyers than the Pacific Northwest.

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Not necessarily Rob...

by Monster Hunter

Rob wrote:

The idea of Chinese or Japanese purchasing one is ludicris. China has its own verson and its closer to the buyers than the Pacific Northwest.

I would think most countries have their version of a BF...however the hide and head would be damn near priceless since no one we know has one...people with more money then we can imagine have some weird collection habits...

Many people collect mounts of exoctic animals that are not hunters...I think that is rather weird but then again I'm not an eccentric millionaire...damnit...not even close...

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Kind

by Sliva

Of a long shot but, what if a larger power found out and confiscated said carcasses. Then put the fear of God into these guys. Hate to through big brother into this. Not like if their wives worked for the CIA that they would blow her cover, or take away their children under trumped up charges, ruin them, make them into junkies and through them to the streets or worse. These things just don't happen. just a thought.

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Feds confiscating carcasses

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Sort of the same thing I thought about the Georgia boys and their so-called bigfoot body.They may have had one and the government stepped in and took it away.In the beginning it seemed they couldn't keep their mouths shut about what they found,even knowing it may mean losing their jobs over it.They really may have had a body.And they probably had big dollar signs in their eyes until the Feds came calling and took their future away!Oh no, now what do we tell everyone now that the body's gone?! (Just my opinion.)

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Nellie, I just can't agree with that.

by Cindy

The Georgia boys were goobers, not too bright, obnoxious (unlike myself, of course) and never had a body.

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carcasses

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And that may very well be true. I was just giving them the benefit of the doubt considering how everything went down.The way Big Brother operates it's almost plausible.And of course without all the facts this as well as any other case is just speculation.

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You are far kinder than I nellie.

by Cindy



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Re: Something MK mentioned last night on Artist First...

by Ken3030

After listening to MK last night it all fits into place for me now. I've always wondered why and how the guys from Canada ended up with the film rights and such to the PG Film. Or as MK calls it now the PGT Film! They had to go about getting it in a round about way because they were sponsered by the newspaper and had to cut them out of it. If they would have come up with the film I guess it would have belonged to the newspaper?

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Kinda wierd that artistfirst hasn't

by DonDon

put this show in the archives yet. His show is usually in their the next day.

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I just checked Don...

by Monster Hunter

Still not there yet...

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I didn't get to hear it but

by DonDon

was there something in it that they would censor it? Maybe SOMEONE has some pull there and asked them NOT to put it in the archives. Just a thought is all

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Not at all Don...

by Monster Hunter

MK was careful how he worded his opinions...I know I was impressed and that ain't easy to do...

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My tea bags

by Crispy Critter

Are on their way to DC.

Here is a petition if any are interested aimed at trying to stop the spending madness.

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=91653

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Tea Bags...

by Monster Hunter

Mine are in the mail...asked the postmaster what were the chances of them receiving them since the envelope had a substance in it...slim to none...an aid will get them and hopefully pass them along...

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I labeled mine

by Crispy Critter

"Tea bags enclosed" on the back of the envelope - to avoid homeland insecurtiy paying me a visit in the wee hours of the night. (I'm sure they will come after me sooner or later - I'm such a trouble maker)

Have you noticed that as more and more of what the Government is doing comes to light - all the pundits are starting to sound like me...LOL

Your fellow Komrad in the Socialist Union of the Americas.



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I labeled mine as well...

by Monster Hunter

bold letters...TEA BAGS enclosed...then reminded them with a short note why I sent them...something I did get in the mail...my Congressman, John Fleming, responded to my email prohibiting the sale of spent brass casings...of course this is old news by now but it is good to know his aids at least respond...

BTW...he is on the Committee on Armed Forces...

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That is more than I got from anyone out here

by Crispy Critter

But then - Boxer and Feinstien Call all the shots - along with Pelosi here, so no surprise.

I think they just handed my name and address over to the Homeland Security for the Domestic Terrorist watch list.

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LOL...You may be right Scott...

by Monster Hunter

Someone may come introduce you to handcuffs and the cross bar motel...I send letters and sign petitions so my name may be on that list as well...Pixx on them...if they would act like responsible elected officials with out best interest in mind they wouldn't hear a peep from most of us...

But I do think...Pelosi is a damn nut...of course they're more that are just as nutty...how do these folks get elected?...

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The youngsters have been indoctrinated

by Crispy Critter

Over the last 30 years. Think I may the last generation to escape most of it.

Just look at what they teach kids in Government run schools these days. Dang Government has been running them forever - yet every election they seem to be a mess and need more money and programs.

Don't even teach how Government runs anymore. They do teach diversity, and how same sex parents are normal. Telling 5th graders to explore their sexuality because they might be gay. Giving little kids condoms - What a load of crap.

These poor kids get out of school and march in step with what they've been taught. These idiots and nuts in Government are the same ones that send the $$ back to implement new programs in the schools. And when they get out of school - they vote for the folks that say the same kooky things that they have been taught since Kindergarten.

Even the history books have been rewritten.

I remember when we were taught to think for ourselves and question everything. Have an open mind, but always be skeptical.

My head is going to explode one of these days.



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Oh man, that would be SO messy. Make sure it

by Cindy

explodes outside.

Posted on Apr 2, 2009, 8:29 AM
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A case of Crispies point above.

by Cindy

Not in America but close enough.

http://www.thisisbristol.co.uk/homepage/Naked-men-line-Bristol-school-help-sex-education/article-863186-detail/article.html



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tea bags cause ruckus...lol

by Crispy Critter

http://www.wmur.com/news/19068098/detail.html

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re:tea bags

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Yep, thought that was gonna happen!LOL

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That's exactly why I labeled mine...

by Monster Hunter

but living in an area that still has pony express there is a good chance they haven't received them yet...

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Elected officials

by J

Someone needs to introduce a law (it would never pass) that makes elected officials work for minimum wage. First you'd see minimum wage go way up, but then no one but dedicated folks that really want to help people would take the job. Crooks want a big take and the government is the best way to make money in this world. No politicians are starving or trying to make ends meet. happy.gif

LOL
Or make them work on a case by case basis. They do good, they make more commission, they do bad, they are out on their behinds. Hehehe (Kinda like we work)If we do a crappy job we get fired, if they do a crappy job it's just politics and they keep going.

Okay...now back to your regularly scheduled message board...

Hehehehe
J


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Hey there Don Don

by Torrey

I will be traveling all through southern Miss during turkey season. Is there any chance that I could meet up with your friend from south central Miss.

I would love to spend a few nights in the area that you and he are talking about. Jim or Bobby should be able to give you my phone numbers and or email , ( I hate to put them out over the internet ). Thanks , and good luck !!

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hey bud, you've got my email don;t ya?

by DonDon

shoot me an email there. When you gonna be in the area? Maybe we can meet up down there and do some good snooping

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For anyone in Arkansas

by travellor

Just a quick question for anyone living in northwest Arkansas... does anyone know of any place that I might be able to camp for a night and take my dogs? I've looked all over Google and cannot locate anywhere to camp that would allow me to take my dogs and not have them leashed. I enjoy my dogs being able to walk, sniff, run, and play freely. They live in a fenced yard otherwise and they love to hit the woods whenever possible. So if anyone can help me out here it would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Travellor

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I know nothing about the lease laws in Arkansas but...

by Monster Hunter

While floating the Buffalo River Jake and a few boys hunting firewood found a few large nice five toed tracks off of the beaten path...that area looked like there could be Monsters everywhere...

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leashes

by Crispy Critter

Pretty much every state I've been in and everystate and national forest has a leash requirement.

If there is no one camping around you - there is no one to turn you in - if you're back country camping, the odds of seeing a Ranger are pretty slim.

I would think (from personal camping) that it's wise to keep them on a leash when your in an area with them darn snakes!

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how crowded/secluded you want to be?

by scott from philly

I know several in north central area

i carted a couple of 160 rottweilers through a couple, no problem

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New line fron Government Motors

by Crispy Critter

I'm sure you've heard that they had to scrap the Volt, and the SUV's and Trucks, but that is because they had to retool the factories for the new line. Don't fear my friends, I have gotten an advanced picture of the Brand new GM Pelosi-mobile.

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I know you are as excited as I am about these babies, but they expect a 2 to 4 year waiting list, so you'll need to sign up now. As with any other Government run operation - there might be some delays and expect the price to go up as the release date gets near.



    
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Posted on Mar 31, 2009, 8:26 PM
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The government has been in control for 3 days

by Crispy Critter

And here we go - GMAC is now going to open loans to the sub-prime market. Isn't that what took down the housing market you might ask?

Hey don't worry - the Government knows what it's doing. Now everyone can buy a new Pelosi mobile.

http://www.reuters.com/article/privateEquity/idUSN0148180620090401?feedType=RSS&feedName=privateEquity

Now considering everything that has happened this past year - why in the world would they do this.........

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A couple bigfoot articles

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These may be of interest.

http://www.bclocalnews.com/bc_north/houston-today/news/Three_more_Bigfoot_sightings_reported.html


http://www.bclocalnews.com/lifestyles/Moricetown_Bigfoot_tracks_continue_sighting_outbreak.html

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First article track...

by Monster Hunter

Another track in the circle that is going the opposite way and has claws...may or may not be a Monster track but it seems they would have found a better track to take a photo of...one that didn't have another track in it...

[linked image]

The second track could have been a rabbit hopping in the snow...doesn't look like a Monster track IMO...

They need better and more pictures showing the tracks clearly along with the track line...hopefully someone that is a woodsman that has quite a bit of snow can chime in with their opinion...

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Another off-topic item for Crispy critter

by


Our President is in real trouble without his teleprompter.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1y3jmE87SoE


Posted on Mar 31, 2009, 8:19 PM
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Teleprompters.....

by Crispy Critter

I think the company that makes them is the only one safe from government intervention...LOL

He's not nearly as cool without it............

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Teleprompters

by Florida Redneck

It now says "Video has been removed due to terms of use violations".

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re:teleprompters

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Wow!Looks like some political-minded folks didn't care for that video to be shown. Hey Florida Redneck,what part of FL are you from? Just curious. I'm in Venice FL. It's nice to know someone else on the MB is from FL too.

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Tonight...7 PM CST...Artist First...MK Davis...

by Monster Hunter

I haven't spoken with MK but if he can talk he'll be on discussing some interesting information...if you have kept up with the Bluff Creek Incident on our forum then you'll want to listen in...

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MK

by Grumpy

ALL I CAN SAY IS WOOOOOOOOOW!!!!!! Wish I'd moved to Trinity County 10 years earlier so I could have been there when it all happened... MK keep up all your good work my friend.

Bob

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His voice was cracking at times...

by Monster Hunter

But he made his points quite well...how they kept this quiet...money and the possibility of jail time...you can't tell anyone of your involvement if there is a possibility of jail time involved...

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I agree Monster Hunter

by Grumpy

even during the years I lived within the area numerous reports were filed and I've talked to many loggers and others who can attest to the fact many creatures are still in the area with some reports during the 80's within campground only a few miles from downtown Weaverville with many more downriver between Weaverville and Hoopa.

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Link?

by Brent

Is There a link for the show?






    
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Link...

by MonsterHunter

http://www.artistfirst.com/bigfoot2008.html

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Good show MK!

by Ken3030

Hope you get to feeling better. The voice sounded a bit rough at the end.

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Needs a good shot of whiskey and honey...

by Monster Hunter

or two...may not cure the ailment but you'll feel better...

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