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$10 Million Bigfoot Bounty Backs New Show by SAsquatcher http://news.discovery.com/animals/10-million-bigfoot-bounty-announced-121026.html?utm_medium=referral&utm_source=pulsenews#mkcpgn=rssnws1 Posted on Nov 24, 2012, 5:13 AM from IP address 64.148.244.140 Respond to this message Goto Forum Home I'm all in... by Monster Hunter Instead of toting cameras I'm toting a rifle...bad knees and all... Posted on Nov 24, 2012, 10:31 AM from IP address 174.229.194.208 Respond to this message Goto Forum Home Seems appropriate. by SAsquatcher Being that you go by the name of "Monster Hunter". Posted on Nov 25, 2012, 12:53 PM from IP address 64.148.244.140 Respond to this message Goto Forum Home I'm not sure that I buy it. by SAsquatcher Here is an article posted up by Dr Igor Burtsev regarding Dr Melba Ketchums work on Sasquatch DNA. Urgent! The DNA analysis of the Bigfoot/Sasquatch specimen conducted by Dr. Melba Ketchum the head of DNA Diagnostics, Timpson, TX, USA has been over! Team of American scientists led by Dr. Melba Ketchum for five years has analyzed 109 purported samples of such creatures. The study has sequenced DNA of a novel North American hominin, commonly called Bigfoot or Sasquatch. There were a large number of laboratories associated with this study including academic, private and government laboratories in which blind testing was utilized to avoid prejudice in testing. Great time and care was taken in the forensic laboratories to assure no contamination occurred with any of the samples utilized in this study. After 5 years of this study the scientists can finally answer the question of what sasquatch really is. It is human like us only different, a hybrid of a human with unknown species. Early field research shows that the Bigfoot/Sasquatches are massively intelligent which has enabled them to avoid detection to a large extent. They are different than us, however human nonetheless. The hybridization event could not have occurred more than 15000 years ago according to the mitochondrial data in some samples. Origin of this hominin was probably Middle Eastern/Eastern Europe and Europe originally though other geographic areas are not excluded. The manuscript associated with this study has been submitted to a scientific reviewed magazine. For years people have refused to believe they exist. Now that we know that they are real, it is up to us to protect them from those that would hunt or try to capture them for research or for sport. They should be left alone to live as they live now. After all, they are our relatives. At this time, analysis of the Sasquatch genomes is still ongoing. Further data will be presented in the future following this original study. Additionally, analysis of various hair samples purportedly from Siberian Wildman are being tested in an effort to determine if relatedness exists between the Sasquatch and Russian Wildman. Dr. Igor Burtsev, Head of International Center of Hominology, Moscow, Russia +7(916)812-6253 inhomin@yandex.ru My assistant in the USA, Megan Wheeler: sasquatchdna@gmail.com Here is Melba Ketchums reply. It is unfortunate that the partial summary of our data was released in this manner, however, I will be making a formal response in the next few days. Even though Igor Burtsev released this, it was not Dr. Burtsev's fault. Posted on Nov 24, 2012, 4:55 AM from IP address 64.148.244.140 Respond to this message Goto Forum Home Thanks for sharing Rick... by Monster Hunter Interesting read but to be honest I thought there would be more verifiable facts concerning its human or animal background...kind of like its almost this but kind of like that with something we don't know what the heck it is... Posted on Nov 24, 2012, 10:36 AM from IP address 174.229.194.208 Respond to this message Goto Forum Home Dr Ketchum's OFFICIAL response/ statement. by SAsquatcher Below is our official response: FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE BIGFOOT DNA SEQUENCED IN UPCOMING GENETICS STUDY Five-Year Genome Study Yields Evidence of Homo sapiens/Unknown Hominin Hybrid Species in North America Contact: Robin Lynne, media@dnadiagnostics.com, 231.622.5362 DALLAS, Nov. 24--A team of scientists can verify that their 5-year long DNA study, currently under peer-review, confirms the existence of a novel hominin hybrid species, commonly called Bigfoot or Sasquatch, living in North America. Researchers extensive DNA sequencing suggests that the legendary Sasquatch is a human relative that arose approximately 15,000 years ago as a hybrid cross of modern Homo sapiens with an unknown primate species. The study was conducted by a team of experts in genetics, forensics, imaging and pathology, led by Dr. Melba S. Ketchum of Nacogdoches, TX. In response to recent interest in the study, Dr. Ketchum can confirm that her team has sequenced 3 complete Sasquatch nuclear genomes and determined the species is a human hybrid: Our study has sequenced 20 whole mitochondrial genomes and utilized next generation sequencing to obtain 3 whole nuclear genomes from purported Sasquatch samples. The genome sequencing shows that Sasquatch mtDNA is identical to modern Homo sapiens, but Sasquatch nuDNA is a novel, unknown hominin related to Homo sapiens and other primate species. Our data indicate that the North American Sasquatch is a hybrid species, the result of males of an unknown hominin species crossing with female Homo sapiens. Hominins are members of the taxonomic grouping Hominini, which includes all members of the genus Homo. Genetic testing has already ruled out Homo neanderthalis and the Denisova hominin as contributors to Sasquatch mtDNA or nuDNA. The male progenitor that contributed the unknown sequence to this hybrid is unique as its DNA is more distantly removed from humans than other recently discovered hominins like the Denisovan individual, explains Ketchum. Sasquatch nuclear DNA is incredibly novel and not at all what we had expected. While it has human nuclear DNA within its genome, there are also distinctly non-human, non-archaic hominin, and non-ape sequences. We describe it as a mosaic of human and novel non-human sequence. Further study is needed and is ongoing to better characterize and understand Sasquatch nuclear DNA. Ketchum is a veterinarian whose professional experience includes 27 years of research in genetics, including forensics. Early in her career she also practiced veterinary medicine, and she has previously been published as a participant in mapping the equine genome. She began testing the DNA of purported Sasquatch hair samples 5 years ago. Ketchum calls on public officials and law enforcement to immediately recognize the Sasquatch as an indigenous people: Genetically, the Sasquatch are a human hybrid with unambiguously modern human maternal ancestry. Government at all levels must recognize them as an indigenous people and immediately protect their human and Constitutional rights against those who would see in their physical and cultural differences a license to hunt, trap, or kill them. Full details of the study will be presented in the near future when the study manuscript publishes. Posted on Nov 24, 2012, 11:35 AM from IP address 64.148.244.140 Respond to this message Goto Forum Home I was amazed by Crispy When I saw this flash across the bottom screen as "breaking News" on every single TV news show. Oh wait, that didn't happen. Because this will not change anything, and she has proven herself to bit a bit on the eccentric side. And there is nothing wrong with being eccentric. Just no one takes you seriously when you are saying you have proof that Bigfoot not only exists, but has human nuclear DNA, and should be recognized as an Indigenous whatever. If this makes it through peer review. Then we will see what if anything happens. Posted on Nov 24, 2012, 11:41 AM from IP address 68.116.39.153 Respond to this message Goto Forum Home I'm hopeful. by SAsquatcher As far as I know, she was doing some testing for some of our members as well, so I think she is on the up and up. We know that they are out there so every piece of evidence cannot be bogus even though we are extremely critical at times (Which is not necessarily a bad thing) but it is for certain going to be proven beyond a shadow of a doubt some day, maybe this is the day? Yes, I still believe that it's gonna take a body, but DNA is a piece of a body anyways. You cannot get DNA off of a Gnome or a Fairy or an Elf or a Hobbit or the Easter Bunny, but this is a real being/creature and whatever it is has left it's genetic fingerprint, that says that it is real. Posted on Nov 24, 2012, 3:20 PM from IP address 64.148.244.140 Respond to this message Goto Forum Home DNA by Crispy There has been plenty already. It comes back unknown primate. As this will likely do as well. And absolutely nothing changes. Posted on Nov 25, 2012, 9:15 AM from IP address 50.38.31.73 Respond to this message Goto Forum Home There has been some testing but by DonDon Onky on a single sample here and there. Theres never.been this many tested like this. I can only hope it passes the PEER and.gets pyblished. It may not solve the.mystery but may be enough for it to be taken seriously enough for some kind of large grant where someone could afford the right equipmant to get the real proof. Posted on Nov 25, 2012, 5:38 PM from IP address 69.197.220.26 Respond to this message Goto Forum Home Don't get your hopes up by Crispy Every couple of years there is Earth shattering news. That turns out to be nothing but hype. Common sense seems to go on vacation whenever someone brings up DNA. Posted on Nov 26, 2012, 7:13 AM from IP address 50.38.31.73 Respond to this message Goto Forum Home you got a point there man by DonDon but this is the first time that it's been done like this. I've long thought about them comparing multiple samples but no one has done it til now Posted on Nov 26, 2012, 9:48 AM from IP address 74.240.7.211 Respond to this message Goto Forum Home "All we have by Terry at the moment is a press release. No paper, no science to look at, no peer review. Just some words. They mean nothing until such time as her findings are allowed a proper and thorough study." t. Posted on Nov 24, 2012, 4:00 PM from IP address 173.33.84.136 Respond to this message Goto Forum Home So is a Chimp a human hy-brid? by Crispy http://www.answersingenesis.org/articles/tj/v17/n1/dna Or are we hybrids of Chimps? Or of apes, for that matter? How could something be a human hybrid if we are all in the same evolutionary tree? Someone has some 'splaining to do! Since the beginning this story has had more hype than substance. Igor goes around Ketchem to release not the findings, but a PR about the findings, and what I assume he thinks they prove. Then Ketchem is forced to put out a statement that clarifies what Igor released, yet does not explain the findings either. Why? Because it is probably still not final. And just maybe, there is not a consensus. And just maybe they didn't agree that they found anything unusual. Now I hear that they tested 40 hair samples. I thought it was tissue from 2 dead ones shot by a bear poacher. Hey, did he ever get in trouble for poaching? I don't think he did. Why? Because the whole story was crap. Fish and Game don't play with poachers, they toss them in the klink. So far, nothing that has been released about this tale has panned out to be accurate. I see no reason to view this any differently But Christmas is coming......... Posted on Nov 25, 2012, 10:35 AM from IP address 68.116.39.153 Respond to this message Goto Forum Home Anyone doing any "Black Friday" camping?... by Monster Hunter Are the deals really that good?...I did get an email from a camera company advertising Black Friday deals...probably were good deals but what was on sale...I don't use ... Posted on Nov 23, 2012, 4:38 PM from IP address 174.229.194.208 Respond to this message Goto Forum Home Heck no. by Okiebear But there were fools that started camping on Monday outside of Best Buy here. OB Posted on Nov 26, 2012, 7:58 AM from IP address 129.244.24.79 Respond to this message Goto Forum Home The Bigfoot Sound recordings by Versatile http://www.bigfootsounds.com/experts-point-of-view/r-scott-nelson/ R. Scott Nelson Scott Nelson Crypto-Linguist Retired from the U.S. Navy as a Crypto-Linguist with over 30 years experience in Foreign Language and Linguistics, including the collection, transcription, analysis and reporting of voice communications. He is a two time graduate of the U.S. Navy Cryptologic Voice Transcription School (Russian and Spanish) and has logged thousands of hours of voice transcription in his target languages as well as in Persian. He is currently teaching Russian, Spanish, Persian, Philosophy and Comparative Religions at Wentworth College in Missouri. Posted on Nov 21, 2012, 12:01 PM from IP address 68.70.76.22 Respond to this message Goto Forum Home Outstanding qualifications... by Monster Hunter Unknown language from what some believe to be a mythical animal will certainly be a challenge...maybe more then he thinks... Posted on Nov 22, 2012, 8:23 AM from IP address 174.229.195.125 Respond to this message Goto Forum Home Porn at MC... by Monster Hunter Posted on Nov 21, 2012, 11:33 AM from IP address 98.80.42.33 Respond to this message Goto Forum Home LMBO, Man, I could really by DonDon Jack up that pic with Barry and Rick's faces BBWAAA HAHAHA Question it, who'd be in front? AHHH HAHAHA Posted on Nov 21, 2012, 12:15 PM from IP address 74.240.7.47 Respond to this message Goto Forum Home Been there and done that. by SAsquatcher I already have a photoshopped version of that with your face definitely in front and a little word balloon like in the comic strips. I won't tell you who is in back though, and I'll never publish it,,,,unless,,,BWAHAAAAAA? Happy Turkey day. Rick. Posted on Nov 22, 2012, 5:37 AM from IP address 64.148.244.140 Respond to this message Goto Forum Home Re: Porn at MC... by yooper bf At least they were wearing masks to hide their identity! Posted on Nov 21, 2012, 12:36 PM from IP address 70.194.26.99 Respond to this message Goto Forum Home True... by Monster Hunter I definitely didn't recognize either of them... Posted on Nov 22, 2012, 9:54 AM from IP address 174.229.195.125 Respond to this message Goto Forum Home Now that would really be a picture everybody should see... by Nellie instead of coons it's a couple of monsters instead. That's kinda funny when you think about it...the only really clear picture of a bigfoot besides Patty's could be a porn pic of monsters on a trail cam. LOL Posted on Nov 23, 2012, 1:00 AM from IP address 108.9.219.70 Respond to this message Goto Forum Home Actually,,,, by SAsquatcher I took a report from a very credible elderly gentleman who witnessed 2 monsters ,shall we say, consumating their relationship, in the area of Padre Island Texas. No pictures involved though, the individual was more concerned with fleeing the scene than shooting monster porn,,lol. I will be working on that report to get it posted up, funny how things hit in a timely fashion as I just got that report very recently. Posted on Nov 23, 2012, 7:01 AM from IP address 64.148.244.140 Respond to this message Goto Forum Home You sure... by RubyRed he didn't see a couple of frisky high school hairies frolicking in the dunes? Padre Island has very little ground cover, although the water is gorgeous when the jellyfish aren't have a field day. Posted on Nov 25, 2012, 8:50 AM from IP address 70.138.218.67 Respond to this message Goto Forum Home I think he was,,, by SAsquatcher On the mainland side. Posted on Nov 25, 2012, 3:18 PM from IP address 64.148.244.140 Respond to this message Goto Forum Home It's completely out of control down there....... by Timberghost [IMG][/IMG] Posted on Nov 23, 2012, 4:02 AM from IP address 69.35.168.120 Respond to this message Goto Forum Home How many times by Crispy Have I told you, ya can't give DonDon any liquor in the woods......me either for that matter ..... Posted on Nov 23, 2012, 5:09 PM from IP address 68.116.39.153 Respond to this message Goto Forum Home glad you added yo name but theres one more by DonDon Name you need to add. Barry lol Posted on Nov 25, 2012, 8:29 AM from IP address 69.197.222.253 Respond to this message Goto Forum Home You will by Crispy See Bear again before I do. Probably leave your sillybutt up in the tree this time.... Posted on Nov 27, 2012, 8:48 AM from IP address 68.116.39.153 Respond to this message Goto Forum Home bwaaaa haha by dondon Now dats funny Posted on Nov 24, 2012, 6:36 AM from IP address 69.197.223.173 Respond to this message Goto Forum Home Let me be the first to say,,,, by SAsquatcher Happy Thanksgiving weekend everyone. This is a time for us all to count our blessings and be grateful for the things we have in our life and not dwell on what we don't. Time to let go of the hurts and mistakes of the past and press on to a more optimistic future. Take care and God bless and try not to eat too much turkey,,lol. Rick T. Posted on Nov 21, 2012, 10:11 AM from IP address 12.131.9.158 Respond to this message Goto Forum Home Re: Let me be the first to say,,,, by Big D Thanks SAsquatcher. I echo his sentiments. May each of you feel as blessed as you actually are!!! Cause if you are anything like me, you are blessed far beyond what you deserve. MH, I wish you an especially Happy Thanksgiving, cause if your family is anything like mine, getting in line for food with two healthy legs is dangerous, heaven only knows how it will be fighting for position with two new ones Posted on Nov 21, 2012, 1:54 PM from IP address 216.130.129.70 Respond to this message Goto Forum Home Happy Thanksgiving... by Monster Hunter Looking forward to seeing family and friends... May God Bless us all... Posted on Nov 21, 2012, 2:09 PM from IP address 174.229.195.125 Respond to this message Goto Forum Home Thankful by SquatchMAN I am Thankful the the Monster Hunter is back with new knees and doing good.I am also thankful of all the neat stuff I own and home and my Dog and THIS board with a lot of really cool people on it.I am hoping to meet a lot of you in person. Happy Thanksgiving to ALL of you.God Bless this board and every one on it. Danny Sears Posted on Nov 22, 2012, 10:48 AM from IP address 65.67.102.173 Respond to this message Goto Forum Home Thanks for the kind words Danny... by Monster Hunter IMO you can't find better folks then our members and forum members...respectful of each other and tolerant of me...one day we will share a camp fire... Posted on Nov 22, 2012, 2:25 PM from IP address 174.253.80.49 Respond to this message Goto Forum Home Happy Thanksgiving to everybody! n/t by MikeInNC Posted on Nov 21, 2012, 2:31 PM from IP address 72.37.171.204 Respond to this message Goto Forum Home Someone must be first... by RubyRed Thank you for your good wishes and for being the first one to do so. May Turkey Day be great for you and yours. Posted on Nov 22, 2012, 6:09 AM from IP address 70.138.218.67 Respond to this message Goto Forum Home I hope everyone had a wonderful Thanksgiving! by Nellie This Thanksgiving I'm giving thanks that my son is alive and well after going through the car accident that we did. My son had someone of a higher power watching over him that day. I feel grateful for finding this site and the MB with all of it's lovely members and friends who believe as strongly about bigfoot creatures as I do...you all are wonderful. MH, I'm thankful you got your poor ole knees fixed and that you will feel better now since you quit smoking. Posted on Nov 23, 2012, 12:48 AM from IP address 108.9.219.70 Respond to this message Goto Forum Home How are you coming along Jim? by SAsquatcher Are you getting used to those new knees yet? My doctor said that I am a prime candidate for the same procedure so I am understandably curious, mine is for a different reason though, to correct the problem that makes me so pigeon toed. Walking that way over the years has taken a toll on my knees so the doc said that I might as well look into getting them both done. Posted on Nov 20, 2012, 10:16 AM from IP address 12.131.9.158 Respond to this message Goto Forum Home New Knees... by Monster Hunter Should have done this a few years back Rick...it's been three weeks today...I can walk without my walker though slowly...drive my jeep and get around pretty darn good...My goal...walk without a crutch in 6 to 8 weeks... Something about your knees...they'll let you know when it's time to replace them...I did both so I wouldn't have several down times and hurting is hurting so no big deal if one hurts or both... First few days you'll not know or care what planet you're on and yes they'll get you up to walk the afternoon after the surgery...I could walk a bit but the next day I couldn't do anything...not one step without falling...Therapy...you have to do the therapy and exercise...walk, stretch and walk some more...I have a stationary bike coming in today or tomorrow so I'll spend a few hours a day traveling the wide open spaces of my living room......you have to do the therapy...you can bend your knees are they will...you don't want them bending which hurts...I worked on bending...hurts but it has to be done...only cussed one therapist... Stay on top of the pain with the drugs...don't start hurting then try and catch up...I'm gradually cutting back...instead of every four hours I do six hours...should be drug free in a few weeks... Hard part for me...I quit smoking...so far so good...21 days and counting but smoking is a terrible hard habit to break... I may not be able to climb up in one of my deer stands before season ends but I'll be able to walk to it... Posted on Nov 20, 2012, 11:39 AM from IP address 98.80.42.33 Respond to this message Goto Forum Home When I blew up by Crispy They told me with great authority that I would never have full range of motion in my arms again, and possibly my legs as well. They sent me home with a big bottle of morphine. And while I could not feel any pain with the morphine, I also could not do anything. So I stopped taking them after a couple of days, and started to really work on stretching and movement. And it hurt a lot. OK, more than a lot. The morphine had me so goofed up I could not keep my balance. And not that I haven't spent a lot of good money to get that same effect..........I always enjoyed having my balance back in the morning..... Persistence pays off. And they always send you home with really good pain killers! Posted on Nov 20, 2012, 3:35 PM from IP address 68.116.39.153 Respond to this message Goto Forum Home The will to over come... by Monster Hunter Good for you Scott... Posted on Nov 20, 2012, 4:50 PM from IP address 174.225.3.144 Respond to this message Goto Forum Home And good for YOU MH that you quit smoking... by Nellie I commend you. You da man! Posted on Nov 21, 2012, 1:39 AM from IP address 108.9.219.70 Respond to this message Goto Forum Home Blew up by Grumpy Scott, the story of you cartwheeling through the air, as told by your neighbor, is still vivid in my old memory banks...... Posted on Nov 21, 2012, 7:26 AM from IP address 68.205.128.201 Respond to this message Goto Forum Home Mine too! by Crispy It isn't often that one becomes a human skyrocket....LOL Anyway, the point of the story wasn't to relive past excitement...but to stress how important keeping up on the therapy is. And if they tell you that you'll never do something again, make it your goal to prove them wrong! It helps with the pain if you have an attitude about it! LOL Posted on Nov 21, 2012, 8:21 AM from IP address 68.116.39.153 Respond to this message Goto Forum Home Not trying to pry but,,,, by SAsquatcher Is that the reason for the nickname " Crispy"? Posted on Nov 21, 2012, 10:02 AM from IP address 12.131.9.158 Respond to this message Goto Forum Home Smoking... by Okiebear Jim this is the best news for your health. Proud of you, keep it up! Barry Posted on Nov 21, 2012, 7:15 AM from IP address 129.244.24.79 Respond to this message Goto Forum Home Best thing I ever did! by SAsquatcher Been quit almost 6 years now and I smoked heavy, 2 packs a day plus, of the Marlboro cowboy killer 100's. Just trying to give you a word of encouragement, not toot my own horn just saying that it CAN be done and I feel a LOT better since I did. But you have to tell yourself that the first one that you pick up will be your downfall and not even allow yourself one. Also keeping hard candy around helps. Posted on Nov 21, 2012, 8:12 AM from IP address 12.131.9.158 Respond to this message Goto Forum Home But I don't like candy Rick... by Monster Hunter And I'm attempting to lose 30 pounds...I can handle it... Posted on Nov 21, 2012, 2:15 PM from IP address 174.229.195.125 Respond to this message Goto Forum Home Deer Jerkey then. by SAsquatcher Candy was just what helped me, and my Dad when he quit. Just trying to help. Posted on Nov 24, 2012, 5:47 AM from IP address 64.148.244.140 Respond to this message Goto Forum Home Jerky...good idea... by Monster Hunter I'll try without any substitute...I have one of those e-cigarets but can't find the charger but decided I would tough it out only using the patch... So far so good but I haven't been hemmed up around smokers yet... Posted on Nov 24, 2012, 10:28 AM from IP address 174.229.194.208 Respond to this message Goto Forum Home 21 days and counting... by Monster Hunter I'm doing good so far and I feel as if I can quit smoking there's not any habit that can't be conquered... Posted on Nov 21, 2012, 2:12 PM from IP address 174.229.195.125 Respond to this message Goto Forum Home You will do it Jim. by SAsquatcher You are a strong individual and strong minded and also very wise. Posted on Nov 22, 2012, 5:30 AM from IP address 64.148.244.140 Respond to this message Goto Forum Home IF Silver Fox can quit, you can, too. by RubyRed It will be two years that Silver quit smoking on May 1st! The plus side--his clothing smells much better, he feels healthier and he sleeps better (with minimum snooring) at night now than ever before. We are in the process of fixing his bad teeth caused by smoking. Keep the faith, MH! We salute you! Posted on Nov 22, 2012, 6:14 AM from IP address 70.138.218.67 Respond to this message Goto Forum Home " Finding Bigfoot " by Monster Hunter I'm not a fan but my two grandsons, 3 & 4 years old sure are...one thing Finding Bigfoot has done are have folks who have had a sighting or weird experience submit a report to our web site...either Monsters are everywhere or folks with imaginations are...I think it's a combination of both... Posted on Nov 18, 2012, 7:50 AM from IP address 174.253.80.4 Respond to this message Goto Forum Home I think,,,,, by SAsquatcher You're right. I also think that there are a whole lot of sightings that people don't report for fear of ridicule but I think that maybe that show is taking some of the edge off of that. With all of the town hall meetings that they conduct and all of the hands that get raised, any fair minded person has to admit that there has to be something to all of this to get responses like that. I am not particularly a fan either, but they are doing some good in raising awareness. Posted on Nov 18, 2012, 3:57 PM from IP address 64.148.244.140 Respond to this message Goto Forum Home Re: I think,,,,, by scott from philly I dont even have a problem with the disco balls and laser light stuff they did.....my problem is you are scaring away every kind of critter for miles trapsing around with a camera crew, and that crap they wear when walking at night...... they need to do it similar to what les does on survivorman, film it themselves.....serious, and without playing to camera as they do....I know it is all for ratings and $$, and general public knows nothing compared to people in here, but can wish they would make an effort, like stay in one area more than 3 days.....like 3 weeks/3 months Posted on Nov 19, 2012, 8:26 AM from IP address 76.98.35.115 Respond to this message Goto Forum Home You hit the nail on the head. by SAsquatcher I have always thought that 1 or 2 nights is not long enough to get a good idea of just what all is out there. If you spend a week or so in an active area ( day and night) I think that your chances will go up radically! These animals don't just move by night, just ask anybody that has had a daytime sighting. Posted on Nov 19, 2012, 10:13 AM from IP address 12.131.9.158 Respond to this message Goto Forum Home Let me amend that. by SAsquatcher If you spend a week or so conducting a " proper" investigation, ( not including a bunch of whooping and hollering) in an active area just doing normal stuff ( tree knocking optional) then your chances of a sighting MAY go up. Like anything else there are factors involved and I am certainly no expert by any means, but I do know that the more time that you are willing to put into anything, the better the results. I know that Timberghosts lives in a hot area but there are times that the monsters are on a different side of the mountain, or sometimes they are just quiet. You can't just pick a night or 2 out of a hat and expect results, you have to research it and find out what time of year they are most active, where their favorite hangouts are and when they are hanging out there and try to figure out why. It can be exhausting but it can also be rewarding. I know personally from my own experiences I have been in some areas and nine out of ten times nothing happened, but that tenth time I would get screamed at or eye shine or something, and that ( to me) made the other 9 times worth while. Patience and tenacity, that's what it takes. Posted on Nov 21, 2012, 4:36 AM from IP address 64.148.244.140 Respond to this message Goto Forum Home Re: I think,,,,, by scott from philly anything less is just blind luck.....I think in my case, my grandfather had seen them in places i did for years, never said anything, and wanted me to see them....did, and sometimes wish I hadnt Posted on Nov 20, 2012, 9:15 AM from IP address 76.98.35.115 Respond to this message Goto Forum Home Season 3 by Crispy Looks just like season 2, which looked just like season 1. After season 1 MM complained there would be no season 2 if he didn't get more control. After season 2 MM complained there would be no season 3 if he didn't get more control. I think he likes being on TV. Posted on Nov 18, 2012, 9:39 PM from IP address 50.38.55.151 Respond to this message Goto Forum Home That it has Jim by DonDon and from a couple that I've read OMG, some folks need to lay off the bottle before they fill out the report LMBO Posted on Nov 19, 2012, 6:40 AM from IP address 74.240.7.47 Respond to this message Goto Forum Home i like that one guy... by Sasquatchms he was a psychologist that suggested that humans naturally hallucinate these things...and im thinking...ok i know to a degree the mind can do anything,see monsters in shadows for example..however like...how ignorant!!.. I hate the show btw, cant stand it...biggest bs ever..and supposedly by the teasers of the later episodes in the season they do "dna" stuff..which as we all know will just as usual come back as "unknown" or something..and i wish they'd picked a more attractive skeptic lesbian. Posted on Nov 19, 2012, 9:43 AM from IP address 65.5.214.74 Respond to this message Goto Forum Home A body, a body, a body. by SAsquatcher That is what it's gonna take. Anything else is just milking ratings. I hear them use terms like" we are gonna prove Sasquatches are in the area" but first we need to prove that they exist. Thermal pics and nv video and still photos " prove" nothing, nada, zip, zilch, zero. Sorry but that is just the harsh reality of it. Posted on Nov 20, 2012, 4:47 AM from IP address 166.147.72.27 Respond to this message Goto Forum Home Finding Self Respect by Rich Daniels There is no limit to the depth MM will stoop to in order to draw attention to himself...from charging people hundreds of dollars to go with his group for two days only to find nothing...claiming he can "call them in" whenever he wants...to this shallow, formulaic show. My wife couldn't understand why I watch the show with regularity when my comments about it were so negative all the time...I told her that I watch to learn what not to do and that there is no harm in it since we've never been a Nielsen family. BTW, has anyone noticed that at every critical juncture where they stand to get a clear image or a real piece of evidence, something goes wrong with all that fancy equipment or Bobo makes some mistake that blows the opportunity? Coincidence or conspiracy? Posted on Nov 19, 2012, 9:07 PM from IP address 76.113.37.17 Respond to this message Goto Forum Home Ole MM is a trip by DonDon self absorbed, arrogant, runs his own folks off with his attitude, just does what he wants without thinking about others. I do know a couple folks that went on one of his expeditions a few years ago and they slipped off their own way for abit. As they were away from the group, they ran across one of Matts guys hoaxing wood knocks. They saw the guy doing it and when they caught back up with everyone the folks were asking them if they heard the wood knocks. LOL OOPSY Posted on Nov 20, 2012, 6:29 AM from IP address 74.240.7.246 Respond to this message Goto Forum Home I was told... by Monster Hunter Finding Bigfoot went to Toledo Bend near Zwolle, LA... Locals knew where they were and responded back to their calls... Posted on Nov 20, 2012, 7:36 AM from IP address 174.225.5.16 Respond to this message Goto Forum Home Re: I was told... by Big D From the way it appears on the show, everyone in the room knows where they are going to be "investigating". In my opinion, this almost completely invalidates anything that they hear while doing a night investigation. If you have a room with 100 people in it, it is an almost certainty that there will be at least one practical joker( or a 1% chance) in the room who will do what he/she does best when no one is looking (but when millions of people are listening). . . Did you hear that? Posted on Nov 20, 2012, 8:26 AM from IP address 108.93.229.102 Respond to this message Goto Forum Home I wish they would get some REAL action. by SAsquatcher MM wouldn't have lasted 5 minutes at MC back in the day when it was smokin hot. Matt and Bobo would have run over each other getting out of the woods, and Ranae would be shall we say a bit less skeptical! Posted on Nov 20, 2012, 10:09 AM from IP address 12.131.9.158 Respond to this message Goto Forum Home the first episodes by Cochise were interesting due to the fact it was all new. Their ideas and procedures seemed good at the time. Now I don't watch it. I hate the drama they try to invent. I hate the same old walk in the woods routine. The eye witness now and then are the best part of the show. Too redundit for me with their formate. years ago I inquired to be part of a group in Florida. When I was told how much I quickly declined. I thought if anyone got paid it should be me. I don't want to sound arrogant, but I thought I knew the area better than they did, and my "woods" experience was better than theirs. I don't like the show or the people period. Posted on Nov 20, 2012, 8:52 AM from IP address 97.103.188.205 Respond to this message Goto Forum Home Group expeditions should be free! by SAsquatcher Aside from what food you bring and what gas it takes you to get there. Anything else is just exploitation! Posted on Nov 21, 2012, 7:46 AM from IP address 12.131.9.158 Respond to this message Goto Forum Home Had a male student I've subbed for in the past by RubyRed walk up to me at Travis High School Monday to excitedly share that he now watches "Finding Bigfoot." He shared that he thinks it's an interesting program. So, the kids are watching for sure. Posted on Nov 21, 2012, 7:19 AM from IP address 70.138.218.67 Respond to this message Goto Forum Home I'll betcha that,,,, by SAsquatcher That makes for some good topics of conversation in the classroom. Posted on Nov 21, 2012, 7:48 AM from IP address 12.131.9.158 Respond to this message Goto Forum Home Yep, sure does by RubyRed I'm up front with students and explain how I've never for sure seen BF but have friends who have had bona fide experiences with the critter. Some of them will then ask IF what they see on "FBF" is accurate and in response, I've told them if you wish truth and accuracy, talk to the researchers/investigators WHO HAVE found real evidence or have had unhoaxed sightings. Then I say those folks are NOT on any silly t.v. shows. I explain, if you want to find out if Bigfoot is real, head for the woods of East Texas BUT don't go hunting for BF alone or unarmed...and the rest of them may research the internet. I always share the GCBRO web site and say, start your internet research with the best site I know. Kids ask great questions and very rarely are they skeptical or rude about the discussion. Posted on Nov 22, 2012, 6:27 AM from IP address 70.138.218.67 Respond to this message Goto Forum Home hey Timber!! by travellor Hello everyone...just wondering what the action is like in SE Oklahoma lately?? Had anything interesting happen?? Posted on Nov 15, 2012, 10:59 AM from IP address 68.103.30.225 Respond to this message Goto Forum Home If you don't know... by Terry about Timberghost's website you should check it out! http://z3.invisionfree.com/Kiamichi_Giants/index.php? t. Posted on Nov 15, 2012, 3:13 PM from IP address 216.168.120.155 Respond to this message Goto Forum Home I can't log on by RubyRed to Timber's site but it sure looks great. Posted on Nov 15, 2012, 3:37 PM from IP address 70.138.218.67 Respond to this message Goto Forum Home Ruby... by Timberghost You have to register before you can log in... Posted on Nov 15, 2012, 10:36 PM from IP address 69.35.168.122 Respond to this message Goto Forum Home Hey I registered by MissippiMike but still was unable to log in, maybe it takes a while to get processed? Posted on Nov 16, 2012, 2:42 PM from IP address 76.107.89.21 Respond to this message Goto Forum Home I had to validate.... by Timberghost You should be good to go now... Posted on Nov 16, 2012, 8:15 PM from IP address 69.35.168.122 Respond to this message Goto Forum Home Thanks man! n/t by MS Mike Posted on Nov 18, 2012, 9:56 AM from IP address 76.107.89.21 Respond to this message Goto Forum Home Tried it by RubyRed but no go. It said I already have an account but I don't remember IF it's under RubyRed or SWarren. And as for the password...CRS prevents me from remembering that, too. Any more suggestions? I sure do wish I could log onto your site as it seems to be a great one. Posted on Nov 25, 2012, 8:53 AM from IP address 70.138.218.67 Respond to this message Goto Forum Home thanks Terry by travellor Posted on Nov 15, 2012, 6:00 PM from IP address 68.103.30.225 Respond to this message Goto Forum Home Something I can't seem to shake... by Monster Hunter Several months back Jake, Doug and I did a little late night snooping... Jake using the thermal was about thirty feet behind us when he asked where was Doug...Doug was to my left standing next to me...Jake in thermal saw something he thought was Doug walking to my right back into the tree line...whatever this was was only feet from us...Doug is about 6'1" and about 190 pounds...none of us heard anything throughout the night but we did get a few distance hits on the thermal... Posted on Nov 15, 2012, 10:37 AM from IP address 174.225.4.11 Respond to this message Goto Forum Home That's downright CREEPY! by SAsquatcher It's one thing for the monsters to come in and act like monsters, that's expected. But to come in under the cover of darkness and mingle amongst the group,,,sheesh! Like we have always said,, they are some smart, slick and stealthy,suckers! Posted on Nov 16, 2012, 4:01 AM from IP address 64.148.244.140 Respond to this message Goto Forum Home That's what bothers me... by Monster Hunter That big, that close, no sound even when it walked away...several folks I know, including myself, will tell you...something just ain't right about these Boogers...all good hunters know there aren't any game animals we can't successfully hunt..Monsters...darn near impossible... Posted on Nov 16, 2012, 7:10 AM from IP address 174.225.1.23 Respond to this message Goto Forum Home That always bothered me too by Lhofa I have had them get right next to me at times without anyone noticing until the creature gets startled by something. For a while I thought it was only me losing my hearing. But it's more. There Is something not right about these things! But I can't definitely explain what is going on. Posted on Nov 16, 2012, 9:24 AM from IP address 166.137.119.15 Respond to this message Goto Forum Home Like every other... by Terry creature in this world of ours it can only be because of stealth and or the ability to blend in to its environment. There isn't any other explanation imho. t. Posted on Nov 16, 2012, 4:30 PM from IP address 98.124.8.126 Respond to this message Goto Forum Home Anonymous Posters by Moderator Lets remember to enter your user name when posting, there have been several lately who are forgetting to do this. Posted on Nov 13, 2012, 5:23 PM from IP address 74.232.181.170 Respond to this message Goto Forum Home New knees.. by Monster Hunter So far so good.. Thanks for the prayers and well wishes...pain killers are nice but kind of hard to stay focused more then a few minutes at a time...should be chasing the Monsters in a few months and it will be nice to be able to walk a few miles without the agony of the knees killing me... Posted on Nov 13, 2012, 12:43 PM from IP address 174.225.3.206 Respond to this message Goto Forum Home Great to see you back MH... by Nellie we all missed you. Hang in there and heal up...and then WATCH OUT! monsters because here comes trouble. Posted on Nov 13, 2012, 12:56 PM from IP address 108.9.219.70 Respond to this message Goto Forum Home Welcome Back!!!!! n/t by Grumpy n/t Posted on Nov 13, 2012, 2:16 PM from IP address 74.232.181.170 Respond to this message Goto Forum Home Glad ta see ya back by Squatchman I hope all is well.The board gets kinda quiet without you.You are most definitely missed. Posted on Nov 13, 2012, 3:22 PM from IP address 65.68.207.184 Respond to this message Goto Forum Home Re: New knees.. by cochise Good to see your'e back. Rest up, then give them hell ! Posted on Nov 13, 2012, 3:43 PM from IP address 97.103.188.205 Respond to this message Goto Forum Home Welcome back my friend... by Anonymous Stay strong and do the physical therapy all the way through...and you will be chasing the monsters in no time. Posted on Nov 13, 2012, 5:04 PM from IP address 76.205.170.147 Respond to this message Goto Forum Home Recover by Lhofa Recover well. Posted on Nov 13, 2012, 5:13 PM from IP address 72.198.57.232 Respond to this message Goto Forum Home Wish you a speedy recovery!!! n/t by Ken3030 Posted on Nov 13, 2012, 7:07 PM from IP address 184.38.53.86 Respond to this message Goto Forum Home cant wait to see you by dondon Lead the charge chasing after a monster Jim. Took both of mine bou 7-8 years to totally heal after i strained both the acls dancing of all things. Lol. Posted on Nov 13, 2012, 9:15 PM from IP address 69.197.220.131 Respond to this message Goto Forum Home I have seen by Crispy How you "look" when you are dancing....LOL No wonder them knees got hurt! Thank God you have a designated driver.............LMAO ! Posted on Nov 14, 2012, 3:43 PM from IP address 68.116.39.153 Respond to this message Goto Forum Home LOL by DonDon is pretty sad but least I'm up on the dance floor Posted on Nov 15, 2012, 6:34 AM from IP address 74.240.7.189 Respond to this message Goto Forum Home Welcome back! by MissippiMike I practiced Orthopedic Nursing before I got out of the profession and I know that can be a long road back. Isn't always but it can be. Hope and pray yours is really a good one! Posted on Nov 14, 2012, 5:10 PM from IP address 76.107.89.21 Respond to this message Goto Forum Home Welcome Back Jim. by SAsquatcher I hope that you are able to get back up and around ASAP. I know that being down has to be driving you nuts, you are an outdoors type and being cooped up doesn't seem to be your cup of tea. God bless and speedy recovery. Posted on Nov 15, 2012, 2:24 AM from IP address 64.148.244.140 Respond to this message Goto Forum Home Re: New knees.. by Big D Hang in there brother. Recovery is going to hurt, I'm sure of it, but remember "pain is just the weakness leaving the body". I know that sounds like a corny statement, but it really is the truth. You will back up and out in no time at all. I know you will whoop this thing! Big D Posted on Nov 15, 2012, 7:08 PM from IP address 216.130.129.70 Respond to this message Goto Forum Home I'm pretty hard headed Big D... by Monster Hunter I can stand the pain while working out but after a hard work out...pain pill & ice or I stiffen up like a fire poker...Wednesday...worked out and had an appointment to remove the staples...took a pain pill at 8 AM...therapy from 11 to 12...about 1 I reached in my jacket pocket...pain pills are not there...fell out in my daughters car with my wife picking me up...set in my wife's office for about an hour...so stiff I couldn't stand up without help...had to use a wheel chair at my next appointment...finally a pain pill at 4 PM...Jake drives me home about a half hour drive...by the time I got home I was pain free...the wonderful world of drugs...never have major surgery and misplace your pain pills... Posted on Nov 16, 2012, 7:25 AM from IP address 174.225.1.23 Respond to this message Goto Forum Home Re: I'm pretty hard headed Big D... by Big D "Better living through chemisrty" is a commom saying in my line of work. I'm glad you are able to get some relief with the meds. Hang in there and get better soon. I look forward to roaming around with you the next time I see you. Heck, taking a walk with you and Grumpy at the same time would be like walking on a football field with Bear Bryant and Vince Lombardi! I don't think it could get any better as far as experience and knowledge are concerned. Big D Posted on Nov 16, 2012, 12:57 PM from IP address 216.130.147.200 Respond to this message Goto Forum Home Red Haired Giants by Grumpy M K Davis discusses the red haired giants of Lovelock Cave https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8XnUiGjUpE0 Posted on Nov 12, 2012, 9:27 AM from IP address 74.232.181.170 Respond to this message Goto Forum Home Cool stuff N/T. by SAsquatcher . Posted on Nov 15, 2012, 3:59 AM from IP address 64.148.244.140 Respond to this message Goto Forum Home Any news on MH? Is he out of the hospital yet?...n/t by Nellie Posted on Nov 12, 2012, 12:16 AM from IP address 108.9.219.70 Respond to this message Goto Forum Home Monster Hunter by Grumpy Haven't talked with him yet but he has been home recovering for two days now, since he bit the bullet and had both knees done at the same time his recovery will be longer. I'm sure once he is able he will post and let everyone know the gory details....... Posted on Nov 12, 2012, 6:57 AM from IP address 74.232.181.170 Respond to this message Goto Forum Home Betting the nurses by DonDon are happy LOL Posted on Nov 12, 2012, 7:24 AM from IP address 74.240.7.149 Respond to this message Goto Forum Home And he hasn't by Grumpy had a smoke since he went into the hospital..... I hope it lasts!!!!! After smoking for 40 years I know how hard it is to quit... Posted on Nov 12, 2012, 8:40 AM from IP address 74.232.181.170 Respond to this message Goto Forum Home Hope so by Crispy He's going to need them lungs clear to keep up with them new legs! Posted on Nov 12, 2012, 10:27 AM from IP address 68.116.39.153 Respond to this message Goto Forum Home That'll be good. by SAsquatcher Two new knees and gets his wind back,,,monsters BEWARE! Posted on Nov 12, 2012, 11:20 AM from IP address 12.131.9.158 Respond to this message Goto Forum Home Thanks Grumpy on the update on MH by Nellie I'm glad he's home and I'm sure he is too. You're right about the smokes...I hope he can stay away from them. Smoking isn't good for the healing process. Posted on Nov 12, 2012, 11:51 AM from IP address 108.9.219.70 Respond to this message Goto Forum Home Not to mention,,, by SAsquatcher Not very good for the ol' lungs when he is chasing down monsters. Posted on Nov 15, 2012, 3:57 AM from IP address 64.148.244.140 Respond to this message Goto Forum Home Monster hunter's progress by Grumpy Had a long talk with monster hunter this morning and he's doing as well as could be expected after double knee replacement surgery. Is progressing with physical therapy and trying to adapt to not being able to get out of his normal chairs once he sits in them, sitting is easy getting out is impossible!!! He said as soon as he can find a higher chair to sit at his computer table he will be back with us and thanks everyone for all their prayers and best wishes.... He appreciates your concern for him and his recovery. Posted on Nov 12, 2012, 9:35 AM from IP address 74.232.181.170 Respond to this message Goto Forum Home Old article by Craig33 I remember reading an account of a reporter going into nw wilderness for several weeks and encountering Bigfoot and living among several before leaving. I saw it on this site, can someone point me to it? Posted on Nov 11, 2012, 8:57 PM from IP address 72.186.119.73 Respond to this message Goto Forum Home Re: Old article by Craig33 I believe it was around the time you guys posted accounts of the first or second big hunt? Maybe 1999 or 2000? I could be off. I have been gone from the site for a long time. Posted on Nov 12, 2012, 3:55 PM from IP address 174.224.136.170 Respond to this message Goto Forum Home Alaska Sighting,anyone seen this one? by Squatchman http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c9HfJAmTbao&feature=results_video Posted on Nov 11, 2012, 6:04 PM from IP address 65.68.207.173 Respond to this message Goto Forum Home Old video - generally thought to be hoax (guy in ghillie suit) N/T by Anonymous Posted on Nov 11, 2012, 8:01 PM from IP address 69.132.192.55 Respond to this message Goto Forum Home Just for the record,,, by SAsquatcher Ghillie suit, plain as day. Posted on Nov 12, 2012, 11:18 AM from IP address 12.131.9.158 Respond to this message Goto Forum Home Hypothetical question. by SAsquatcher You are camping, you have a .44 magnum under your pillow, you wake up in the middle of the night and hear something huge outside of your tent and the moon outlines it perfectly, it is a Bigfoot and it is rubbing it's hand across your tent. You know exactly where it is, do you shoot at it? Posted on Nov 11, 2012, 11:43 AM from IP address 64.148.244.140 Respond to this message Goto Forum Home Hypothetical question by Grumpy IMO that is no different than what is referred to as a Brush Shot, where inexperienced hunters shoot at noise without seeing/positively identifying their intended target. And you have no idea how many of his/her family is also there waiting for a snack or left overs. Posted on Nov 11, 2012, 1:26 PM from IP address 74.232.181.170 Respond to this message Goto Forum Home I agree Bob. by SAsquatcher Unless that sucker is trying to rip the canvas ( or vinyl) open to try and get at you, I say hold off until you SEE what it is that you are shooting at. That is why I like at least a pop up camper, you can put a little more than a thin layer of canvas between yourself and whatever is out there,( wolves, coyotes, bears, or what have you). Never shoot at shadows or sound, always be SURE of your target. Remember, once you send that bullet out there, nothing in the world can pull it back! Posted on Nov 12, 2012, 3:51 AM from IP address 64.148.244.140 Respond to this message Goto Forum Home No way am I taking that Shot by Go200mph Shadows don't make the monster, and it could be your good friend, brother, etc who knows you are camping, looking for Bigfoot, there to play a trick on you. Any gun advocating individual will always tell you to make sure of your shot and seeing something as a shadow doesn't meet that criteria. Now if that shadow becomes violent towards you and begins attacking you and you become fearful of your life, at least in Florida, the law protects you. Since, even if it turns out to be a human, you have the right to protect yourself. Posted on Nov 11, 2012, 3:34 PM from IP address 71.99.153.127 Respond to this message Goto Forum Home Re: Hypothetical question. by sasquatchms id shoot directly out the top of the tent to scare whatever it was off...the bullet once reaching its maximum altitude would then fall at terminal velocity back to earth not hurting a thing addendum: A free-falling object achieves its terminal velocity when the downward force of gravity (FG) equals the buoyancy/resistance force of drag (Fd). This causes the net force on the object to be zero, resulting in an acceleration of zero.[1] As the object accelerates (usually downwards due to gravity), the drag force acting on the object increases, causing the acceleration to decrease. At a particular speed, the drag force produced will equal the object's weight . At this point the object ceases to accelerate altogether and continues falling at a constant speed called terminal velocity (also called settling velocity). An object moving downward with greater than terminal velocity (for example because it was thrown downwards or it fell from a thinner part of the atmosphere or it changed shape) will slow down until it reaches terminal velocity Posted on Nov 11, 2012, 7:46 PM from IP address 65.5.214.74 Respond to this message Goto Forum Home Agreed by Rich D Rounds don't get discharged unless there is real need and adequate certainty of the target. Besides, with a .44 magnum you might not remember if you fired six shots or only five (Gratuitous Dirty Harry reference). Posted on Nov 11, 2012, 8:11 PM from IP address 76.113.37.17 Respond to this message Goto Forum Home Print found by DF Found this impressive print at the local Wal-Mart, it did taste authentic! Dadgum monsters are every where. LOL [IMG][/IMG] Posted on Nov 10, 2012, 12:58 PM from IP address 76.194.138.228 Respond to this message Goto Forum Home Removal of email address prior to posting by Moderator Everyone remember to remove your email address prior to posting unless you want the World to know it!!!!! Posted on Nov 10, 2012, 11:25 AM from IP address 74.232.181.170 Respond to this message Goto Forum Home Cautionary Tale by Rich Daniels Anyone headed to the Four Corners area (where New Mexico, Colorado, Utah and Arizona border) please contact me before you leave. My investigation there a few weeks ago resulted in my walking up on a pot grow and getting shot at over a dozen times! The Feds forbade me to share any information about the incicent until my deposition was officially entered into evidence, which happened yesterday. When you go out, please please please be careful and watchful for more than just monsters! I will gladly share the location of the small valley I stumbled into with anyone intending to work that area. Posted on Nov 10, 2012, 10:52 AM from IP address 76.113.37.17 Respond to this message Goto Forum Home people still grow pot? by woodswatcher thats odd, outdoor Pot went out of style in Oklahoma a decade ago.I thought everyone grew Pot indoors now. Posted on Nov 11, 2012, 2:29 PM from IP address 99.69.104.250 Respond to this message Goto Forum Home You'd Be Surprised by Rich D It's actually more widespread here in New Mexico than you'd think. I'm told that it's the fifth major field found here this calendar year. My problem is that I have only been here a couple of years and don't have established research areas like most of you have been able to identify. Although it appears that Darrell and I will be combining our efforts in the near future in an area of recent activity. Just don't take it for granted that an unfamiliar area has only the usual hazards...this was an eye-opener for me. Posted on Nov 11, 2012, 7:57 PM from IP address 76.113.37.17 Respond to this message Goto Forum Home Garden of the Month! by Mr. Phelps A few years back, myself and another member were scouting this island in the Atchafalaya River Basin. We were following up on a report by two fishermen having a sighting in this area. The report was several months old when it got to us, but we did find what looked like an old bedding area very near the location. Having tied the boat down we were walking a ridgeline when we stumbled on four of five very nice marijuana plants cultivated along the ridge! This was small time stuff, and I dont think we were in danger, of course it would have been a hell of a shoot out, but just goes to show you what you may find in the woods! Posted on Nov 11, 2012, 6:53 PM from IP address 209.240.51.46 Respond to this message Goto Forum Home Let me see if I understand this... by RubyRed the Bigfoot(s) are now growing their own pot to smoke? That's amazing. Just funnin' with you, Mr. Phelps (and I couldn't help myself). I'm not surprised by this. As the economy (and our country as a whole) continues on the down-slide, I fully expect that this kind of activity as well as Moonshining will become VERY popular. That part about BF was stretching it, of course. Posted on Nov 12, 2012, 8:12 AM from IP address 70.138.218.67 Respond to this message Goto Forum Home You folks by Crispy Haven't been in Northern CA or Oregon lately, have you? LOL Posted on Nov 12, 2012, 10:28 AM from IP address 68.116.39.153 Respond to this message Goto Forum Home Sweetie-Pie, Crispy by RubyRed Ole Silver Fox and I AIN'T been anywhere since our last vaca to Tennessee in 2005 and we sure do hate the fact. We truly miss getting away from hot, steamy Texas in the summer and heading up to a cooler clime. There's nothing better than getting in the ole SUV and hitting the road around noonish. IF driving a far piece, that meant we'd be on the road long after dark when the BF sometimes cross the roads. Oh, well, maybe one day in the future. Seven years is a long time to go without taking a 7-10 day trip to see our beautiful country. Posted on Nov 15, 2012, 3:45 PM from IP address 70.138.218.67 Respond to this message Goto Forum Home I think i have seen this suit on you tube by Versatile Doesn't take much cash to be a hoaxer. http://kansascity.craigslist.org/for/3388789055.html qjjt2-3388789055@sale.craigslist.org I have for sale a Gorilla suit. Im asking 80 but negotiable. [IMG][/IMG] Posted on Nov 5, 2012, 1:57 PM from IP address 68.70.76.22 Respond to this message Goto Forum Home has anyone seen it by bill I am in the Sparta cookeville area of tennessee. the other night my dog started to growl and went to the big glass doors going to the deck, which is just off my bedroom. out about 50 yards was this thing that i thought was someone going to come up the drive and as i fully woke up relized this was some kind of animal. tall, stalky, and looked like he was wearing a fur coat. I have a yard light so am I nuts or is their others out there that has seen this to not just here any where? Posted on Nov 5, 2012, 3:35 AM from IP address 69.8.167.194 Respond to this message Goto Forum Home Bill by Moderator I removed your email prior to posting. Please file a report with GCBRO on our main web site at gcbro.com. And yes these creatures do exist!!! LOL Posted on Nov 5, 2012, 7:52 AM from IP address 74.232.181.170 Respond to this message Goto Forum Home Cookville by Crispy Been through there many times. Butts up against some might fine country where I have gone looking before. Posted on Nov 5, 2012, 8:45 AM from IP address 68.116.39.153 Respond to this message Goto Forum Home That is where,,, by SAsquatcher Mary Green lives. I went up to Standing Stone park with her and a friend and something threw a rock down the hill in my direction. We were the only vehicle there. Posted on Nov 6, 2012, 6:05 AM from IP address 12.131.9.158 Respond to this message Goto Forum Home Standing Stone by Crispy Is a cool place Posted on Nov 6, 2012, 9:40 AM from IP address 68.116.39.153 Respond to this message Goto Forum Home anyone see this yet? by scott from philly http://www.grindtv.com/outdoor/blog/39929/hikers+take+flight+when+what+they+thought+was+a+bear+resembles+bigfoot/ Posted on Nov 4, 2012, 5:18 PM from IP address 76.98.35.115 Respond to this message Goto Forum Home Hoax N/T by Lone Wolf * Posted on Nov 4, 2012, 8:21 PM from IP address 76.95.53.202 Respond to this message Goto Forum Home Was just gonna post that by DonDon Not sure what to make of it but it's got some real wide shoulders. I wish they'd have kept the camera on it for just a couple more seconds so I coulda seen how it walked more Posted on Nov 5, 2012, 7:46 AM from IP address 74.240.7.60 Respond to this message Goto Forum Home Too hairy by Crispy To be DonDon. I am curious on why everyone always runs away when the "See"............. I mean, when you run away from your dog, what does it do? When you run away from a bear, what does it do? And since it is pretty common knowledge that not only will animals chase after people who run from them....animals run much faster and I think nearly always catch the person. If it is you dog it is fun. Animals like to run away from people who do not run away from them. Posted on Nov 8, 2012, 5:00 PM from IP address 68.116.39.153 Respond to this message Goto Forum Home I do agree with cha on the running away deal by DonDon but not everyone has your cajones Bro. I still have a vivid memory of that night when you were screaming at the Monster LOL Posted on Nov 9, 2012, 6:16 AM from IP address 74.240.7.38 Respond to this message Goto Forum Home Fear by Crispy Makes a guy do crazy things....LOL Posted on Nov 9, 2012, 8:14 AM from IP address 68.116.39.153 Respond to this message Goto Forum Home BWAAA HAHAHAAHA by DonDon AMEN BROTHA. Posted on Nov 9, 2012, 1:38 PM from IP address 74.240.7.38 Respond to this message Goto Forum Home Monster Hunter Update by Grumpy Monster Hunter hopes to be out of the Hospital and back home sometime mid to end of next week. Posted on Nov 3, 2012, 3:28 PM from IP address 74.232.181.170 Respond to this message Goto Forum Home Good deal. by SAsquatcher He'll be running and tackling the monsters in no time. Posted on Nov 4, 2012, 4:43 AM from IP address 64.148.244.140 Respond to this message Goto Forum Home Re: Monster Hunter Update by Big D Great news. Posted on Nov 4, 2012, 1:01 PM from IP address 216.130.147.200 Respond to this message Goto Forum Home Knee Pictures by Grumpy Monster Hunter won't be wearing shorts for awhile!!!!! [IMG][/IMG] Posted on Nov 4, 2012, 2:33 PM from IP address 74.232.181.170 Respond to this message Goto Forum Home Ouch by SAsquatcher That hurts to think about! Posted on Nov 4, 2012, 4:26 PM from IP address 64.148.244.140 Respond to this message Goto Forum Home Re: Knee Pictures by Versatile Is that what you call KNEEZLES? Posted on Nov 5, 2012, 6:53 AM from IP address 68.70.76.22 Respond to this message Goto Forum Home Get well soon by Lhofa You have my full sympathy! Posted on Nov 6, 2012, 11:16 AM from IP address 166.137.156.17 Respond to this message Goto Forum Home Looks like the top of my head. by Jim Keegan Long time ago....galaxy far, far away. The overpass won. 8 years ago it got torn down. I'm still here. Hang in there Grumpy..it get's worst! Bo Posted on Nov 6, 2012, 5:40 PM from IP address 24.250.4.127 Respond to this message Goto Forum Home You might be a redneck if,,,,,, by SAsquatcher "You might be a redneck if you schedule your knee replacement in the Wal-Mart parking lot". Hurry back home Jim. Posted on Nov 8, 2012, 8:21 AM from IP address 166.147.72.28 Respond to this message Goto Forum Home mr jim by shirley hey mr jim just wanted to let u know we all are praying for you and hope you have a speedy recovery, were trying to keep up with stuff , have some new pic for u, this time i used my camera instead of the phone will call u soon, good luck with the new knees and will talk to u soon Posted on Nov 4, 2012, 9:50 PM from IP address 12.197.246.204 Respond to this message Goto Forum Home New tenative Discharge date by Grumpy Monster Hunter advises that his tentative discharge date from the hospital is Friday...or not until he can out run the Nurses on his floor........ Posted on Nov 7, 2012, 12:32 PM from IP address 74.232.181.170 Respond to this message Goto Forum Home Spike TV offering 10 million for proof of Bigfoot. by Doug Murdoch http://insidetv.ew.com/2012/10/25/10-million-bigfoot/ Here's a quick 10 million for you BF hunters out there to make. Posted on Nov 1, 2012, 4:31 PM from IP address 24.69.196.51 Respond to this message Goto Forum Home As I recall this was posted awhile ago by Grumpy and we discussed it's time to stay out of the woods with all the idiots who will be out there............ Posted on Nov 1, 2012, 4:51 PM from IP address 74.232.181.170 Respond to this message Goto Forum Home Where? by Doug Murdoch I checked pages down, but never seen it. As a longtime hunter, this might be the ideal opportunity to scare one into your gun sight. Only a body will do once and for all to prove BFs existence. Posted on Nov 1, 2012, 5:18 PM from IP address 24.69.196.51 Respond to this message Goto Forum Home Where by Grumpy It may have been in one of the GCBRO hunt crew group emails between friends, but we have discussed it somewhere....... Posted on Nov 1, 2012, 6:01 PM from IP address 74.232.181.170 Respond to this message Goto Forum Home If you read it all by Crispy They state that this is simply a publicity stunt. So I doubt they have any intention of paying out the$$$.

Devil is always in the details.

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I've re-read it again and I don't see that. Its even underwritten by Lloyds of London. They see it as a safe bet no one will come up with a body. Even Bobbi Short, everyone knows her, says its legitimate.

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Doug, your missing the main reason this was posted by them... To promote their TV show and the hunt is 'Not' open to anyone but only the teams on the show and we all know they Will be controlled just like those on finding BF and the other reality shows.. Real research is boring so they spice it up to please those watching the TV series..... Real Researchers take this for the joke it is and ignore these idiot's who have never spend a day in the field without a film crew for protection.

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"The $10 million is, of course, a publicity stunt. " http://news.discovery.com/animals/10-million-bigfoot-bounty-announced-121026.html Posted on Nov 2, 2012, 4:48 PM from IP address 68.116.39.131 Respond to this message Goto Forum Home Just like by Grumpy when the film crew of Finding Bigfoot responds to calls and wood knocks and the flunkies don't even know they are being had............. Posted on Nov 2, 2012, 6:16 PM from IP address 74.232.181.170 Respond to this message Goto Forum Home Yeti hair samples test positive for.......Yeti !! (w/ link) by MikeInNC Opinions? http://www.news.com.au/travel/news/so-the-yeti-does-exist-scientists-say-so/story-e6frfq80-1226507133971 -MikeInNC Posted on Oct 30, 2012, 5:38 PM from IP address 69.132.192.55 Respond to this message Goto Forum Home Without a control sample by Lone Wolf which does not exist, DNA hair tests are worthless. Posted on Oct 30, 2012, 6:37 PM from IP address 76.95.53.202 Respond to this message Goto Forum Home Re: Without a control sample by SasquatchMs they may have a control..there surley is a database of hair samples in universities and private collections over there to test against...but my 2 cents is lately only stupid fluff BF pieces have come outta russia, it may just be their gag and laugh over there if they release something like this mainstream.. Posted on Oct 30, 2012, 7:39 PM from IP address 65.5.214.74 Respond to this message Goto Forum Home Re: Without a control sample by Bid D I would not say it is worthless. It may not be able to tell you what it is but it can tell you what it ain't, and that is 99% of the battle. Posted on Oct 30, 2012, 8:02 PM from IP address 108.93.229.102 Respond to this message Goto Forum Home It's difficult believing... by Terry anything that comes out of Russia. t. Posted on Oct 30, 2012, 11:04 PM from IP address 76.75.125.177 Respond to this message Goto Forum Home You got that right.!! by Doug Murdoch There's plenty of hoaxers in this field, the longer you get into it. You sure can't believe everyone or everything said or read. Posted on Nov 1, 2012, 9:21 PM from IP address 24.69.196.51 Respond to this message Goto Forum Home Just in from Russia by Grumpy http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2225276/Yeti-latest-Russian-scientists-say-DNA-tests-hair-samples-existence-man-like-mammal.html Posted on Oct 30, 2012, 5:37 PM from IP address 74.232.181.170 Respond to this message Goto Forum Home Everyone please.... by Timberghost Keep the Monster Hunter in your thoughts and prayers today. He's going through double knee replacement right now so let's wish him success and a speedy recovery. It'll be sweet to hit the woods with him again once he's back up and running.... Posted on Oct 30, 2012, 9:58 AM from IP address 66.210.200.125 Respond to this message Goto Forum Home Monster Hunter by Grumpy Yes he is and we all hope everything went well, I have thought about him several times today and am sure he'll be out hiking with new bionic knees real soon. Posted on Oct 30, 2012, 3:01 PM from IP address 74.232.181.170 Respond to this message Goto Forum Home DOUBLE KNEE? by woodswatcher crap... wow... he'll need all the canes he can handle for a while. Posted on Oct 30, 2012, 3:17 PM from IP address 70.183.48.217 Respond to this message Goto Forum Home Dang............... by Okiebear we should have purchased him a bell so he can ring it when he needs anything. I'm certain his family would appreciate it... Knowing Jim he has already thought of this....lol....... OB Posted on Oct 30, 2012, 3:36 PM from IP address 129.244.24.79 Respond to this message Goto Forum Home Wish you the best MH... by DF Know a woman who had both knees replaced 17 years ago...said she would do it all again if she had to. Posted on Oct 30, 2012, 3:58 PM from IP address 76.194.138.228 Respond to this message Goto Forum Home This is how by Crispy Steve Austin got started.......The Bionic Monster Hunter in the making. He will have to give the monsters a head start now...... Posted on Oct 30, 2012, 4:25 PM from IP address 68.116.39.131 Respond to this message Goto Forum Home Don't be down long... by Circlewalker I'll be praying for you my friend. Posted on Oct 30, 2012, 5:05 PM from IP address 76.205.170.147 Respond to this message Goto Forum Home Break a leg ! by MikeInNC (You know what I mean) Get well soon!! -MikeInNC Posted on Oct 30, 2012, 5:36 PM from IP address 69.132.192.55 Respond to this message Goto Forum Home Monster! by Mr. Phelps Our last visit showed me how bad his knees were, and he was looking forward to the surgery! God's speed to my friend and a quick recovery! Posted on Oct 30, 2012, 6:46 PM from IP address 209.240.51.46 Respond to this message Goto Forum Home MH by MissippiMike Godspeed in your recovery my friend! Will send up some prayers for you. Posted on Oct 30, 2012, 7:16 PM from IP address 76.107.89.21 Respond to this message Goto Forum Home Good luck Jim!!! n/t by ken3030 Posted on Oct 30, 2012, 7:23 PM from IP address 184.38.146.140 Respond to this message Goto Forum Home like the 6 million dollar man, but more like 35K man n/t :) by SasquatchMS Posted on Oct 30, 2012, 7:35 PM from IP address 65.5.214.74 Respond to this message Goto Forum Home Re: Everyone please.... by Big D Praying for you brother! Posted on Oct 30, 2012, 8:04 PM from IP address 108.93.229.102 Respond to this message Goto Forum Home Speedy Recovery by Florida Redneck I hope Jim's surgery went smoothly and his recovery will be quick. Posted on Oct 30, 2012, 9:19 PM from IP address 72.161.29.153 Respond to this message Goto Forum Home Best of LUCK to you by Squatchman Get Well Soon.I sure hope this does the trick for you(getting your knees in good shape). Posted on Oct 30, 2012, 9:40 PM from IP address 66.141.176.114 Respond to this message Goto Forum Home I heard that... by Terry they inserted one of those little exploratory medical cameras before the operation and the photos came out blurry! Speedy recovery and good luck from Canada! t. Posted on Oct 30, 2012, 10:54 PM from IP address 76.75.125.177 Respond to this message Goto Forum Home Absolutely by SAsquatcher Our prayers are with him! Posted on Oct 31, 2012, 2:45 AM from IP address 64.148.244.140 Respond to this message Goto Forum Home Sho got em from me by DonDon maybe this'll hook the olde boy up Posted on Oct 31, 2012, 5:48 AM from IP address 74.240.24.93 Respond to this message Goto Forum Home Monster Hunter's awake and alive.... by Grumpy Got an email from him around 0317hrs this morning, he was having trouble sleeping and was drinking coffee... guess he needed a caffeine boost before walking to the store for smokes.....LOL Take care old friend and don't do to much to soon!!!! Posted on Oct 31, 2012, 6:48 AM from IP address 74.232.181.170 Respond to this message Goto Forum Home I just called him........ by Ken3030 he is doing good. His spirits are good, his CRS is a little worse with the drugs in his system tho. LOL Posted on Oct 31, 2012, 11:56 AM from IP address 184.38.51.124 Respond to this message Goto Forum Home CRS??? by Grumpy Ken that was really nice of you to blame it on the drugs....... LOL We all know better. Posted on Oct 31, 2012, 12:19 PM from IP address 74.232.181.170 Respond to this message Goto Forum Home LMAO n\t by Ken3030 Posted on Oct 31, 2012, 1:23 PM from IP address 184.38.51.124 Respond to this message Goto Forum Home Re: Everyone please.... by Versatile Double knees. Wow! You are in my prayers. Take care. I knew a guy that got doubles at age 75 and he was thrilled as to how his life changed. Posted on Oct 31, 2012, 7:20 AM from IP address 68.70.76.22 Respond to this message Goto Forum Home I wonder? by Timberghost I wonder if they cut that chord while they had him in surgery? You know, the one that runs from his a$$hole to his eyeballs that gave him such a hitty outlook on life? Posted on Oct 31, 2012, 1:38 PM from IP address 66.210.200.125 Respond to this message Goto Forum Home I wonder? by Grumpy Doctors are not allowed to use cable cutters in OR, they are to hard to sterilize with all the lubricant need to operate smoothly...... Posted on Oct 31, 2012, 1:46 PM from IP address 74.232.181.170 Respond to this message Goto Forum Home I wonder? by Grumpy We are safe Timber, it will be weeks before he can chase us........ LOL We just better not close our eye's or fall asleep the next time we get together in the woods...... Posted on Oct 31, 2012, 2:08 PM from IP address 74.232.181.170 Respond to this message Goto Forum Home JIm was complaining... by Terry about the pain this morning to his doctor. The doc said, I gave you pain medicine, have you been following the label? Jim said yes, it says keep tightly closed! t. Posted on Oct 31, 2012, 3:10 PM from IP address 98.124.1.145 Respond to this message Goto Forum Home LOL,,, by SAsquatcher He only used it one time too, the second time it said "Do not use if seal is broken" so he threw them away,,lol. Posted on Nov 1, 2012, 6:25 AM from IP address 64.148.244.140 Respond to this message Goto Forum Home LOL n/t by Terry Posted on Nov 1, 2012, 8:50 AM from IP address 216.168.106.179 Respond to this message Goto Forum Home Now that's by MissippiMike funny, I don't care who ya are! Posted on Oct 31, 2012, 7:42 PM from IP address 76.107.89.21 Respond to this message Goto Forum Home Prayers and thoughts by RubyRed are coming your way. You are SO gonna love your two brand-new knees. There will be some post-op pain and some rehab but then, BF watch out the Monster Hunter will be back on the trail... Posted on Oct 31, 2012, 3:55 PM from IP address 70.138.218.67 Respond to this message Goto Forum Home Now MH has extra time to review his monster videos now... :) by Nellie Happy Halloween MH and everyone aboard the MB! Pretty soon MH will be stalking and chasing those pesky monsters like he's never done before! Get well soon MH! Posted on Oct 31, 2012, 7:55 PM from IP address 108.9.219.70 Respond to this message Goto Forum Home Sorry to hear that by Rob Anderson Weneed you out there hunting theb\big furries. Posted on Nov 1, 2012, 3:08 PM from IP address 98.209.182.197 Respond to this message Goto Forum Home Have you ever found something looking for something else... by Monster Hunter Found some old pictures I took before MC was turned into an oil patch...hard to believe the changes...Sadea was a young pup, I could still get around and Jake was a young whipper snapper...amazing how time flies... Posted on Oct 29, 2012, 5:49 PM from IP address 98.67.248.243 Respond to this message Goto Forum Home MH by MissippiMike Jim, please send me an email, I need to ask you a couple of things , not sure where I placed ur email addy, so much junk around here it's embarrassing. Posted on Oct 29, 2012, 7:22 PM from IP address 76.107.89.21 Respond to this message Goto Forum Home jimlansdale@gmail.com by Monster Hunter N/T Posted on Oct 30, 2012, 5:54 AM from IP address 174.241.2.175 Respond to this message Goto Forum Home MH, remember to look closely at your old pics for a possible hidden monster by Nellie in them. I wonder how long they have been hanging out at MC before you discovered them? Posted on Oct 29, 2012, 11:48 PM from IP address 108.9.219.70 Respond to this message Goto Forum Home Video...MK Davis... by Monster Hunter http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2np-Kh3Hgxg Posted on Oct 29, 2012, 1:56 PM from IP address 98.67.248.243 Respond to this message Goto Forum Home UGH by SasquatchMS the problems w/ sub par video recording devices!!! infuriating to me...poor MK trying to turn **** into a sandwich with the footage collections of his, I mean he is without a doubt one of the best analysis guys and video editing/clarifying folks around but geez...i just wish i could get within 100 yards of a rascal sasquatch w/ my rig. Posted on Oct 29, 2012, 5:33 PM from IP address 65.5.214.74 Respond to this message Goto Forum Home Trail... by Monster Hunter This picture was taken a while back...this trail leads from the pond behind Ms. Shirley's home to the old cabin at Ms. Francis home...and no...if these ladies visited they more then likely would drive or walk the road...never would they walk through the pine thicket, not in the picture, back and forth... Posted on Oct 29, 2012, 8:32 AM from IP address 98.67.248.243 Respond to this message Goto Forum Home That looks like a well used trail by Nellie the ladies would be afraid to walk that even on a nice sunny day like the type of day in the picture? If this trail is highly used do you have a camera set up nearby aimed at it? Posted on Oct 29, 2012, 8:56 AM from IP address 108.9.219.70 Respond to this message Goto Forum Home Yes I had several game cams stationed on and around... by Monster Hunter plus many other trails...they quit using them and started walking in the pine thickets where there are many trails...I had a game cam stationed at a trail they walked coming out of some pines into the back of Ms. Francis property...something leaned a stick up against the camera...put game cameras all through the thickets and around the home...some success but for the work and time involved every picture from a game cam that has a Monster I have probably 150 hours labor involved...so the way I figure it...gas to get back and forth plus 20 bucks an hour for labor plus 6 game cams the pictures cost me about 5200 dollars over a two year period...plus another 16 to 1700 hundred for the video system...and hundreds of hours watching recorded video...damn...I kind of wish you hadn't asked...I really hadn't thought about expense until you brought it up...LOL... Instead of eating a bologna sandwich I could have been eating steak... Posted on Oct 29, 2012, 12:02 PM from IP address 98.67.248.243 Respond to this message Goto Forum Home Wow, some expense! by MissippiMike And I just saw an awesome new Harley that for just a wee bit more could have been purchased for that price...almost! Gets expensive. I haven't tallied up what I spend on the hobby but I'll bet it is more than I initially think! Posted on Oct 29, 2012, 7:27 PM from IP address 76.107.89.21 Respond to this message Goto Forum Home Sorry about that MH....I didn't mean to make you feel bad by Nellie If you ever get a really great shot of a monster with one of your cameras I'll buy you a big juicy steak dinner! Posted on Oct 29, 2012, 11:29 PM from IP address 108.9.219.70 Respond to this message Goto Forum Home That's a by DonDon superhighway right there Posted on Oct 29, 2012, 10:24 AM from IP address 74.240.7.188 Respond to this message Goto Forum Home They were like that throughout the property until... by Monster Hunter I started hanging game cameras and the video system... Posted on Oct 29, 2012, 12:03 PM from IP address 98.67.248.243 Respond to this message Goto Forum Home You think they by Cochise are watching you setting up the cameras? I was wondering what it might be that tips them off. Allot of hard work just to get a couple of picks. Monster Hunter you are a determined man, wish I could be there helping you. Good luck! Posted on Oct 29, 2012, 6:49 PM from IP address 97.103.188.205 Respond to this message Goto Forum Home I pray that everyone stays safe during this storm by Nellie it sounds pretty bad for the folks up north...thank goodness it missed Florida. We sure have had many days of windy weather because of it. I hope people heed warnings and take care. Btw...I wonder if we'll hear of more Bigfoot reports afterward. Monsters on the run! Posted on Oct 29, 2012, 8:30 AM from IP address 108.9.219.70 Respond to this message Goto Forum Home Hurricane's... by Monster Hunter I've talked to a few men who toughed it out during hurricane's in South East Texas...they said never again...they told me they thought they were going to die...relentless rain and wind for 24 hours... Posted on Oct 29, 2012, 8:39 AM from IP address 98.67.248.243 Respond to this message Goto Forum Home This one by Crispy Looks like the Mother of all Hurricanes. It could make the aftermath of Katrina look like a practice mission. They expect it to hit a cold front and have all H3ll break loose. There is a lot to be said for having a survival bag with food and water. Everyone thinks you are nuts, until this happens and they want what you stored up. Posted on Oct 29, 2012, 9:22 AM from IP address 68.116.39.131 Respond to this message Goto Forum Home We're heading... by Terry into the hunt camp for a ten day deer hunt. We can only get there by trail and then by boat. The storm will just be angry rain and wind by the time it gets here but it still means a whole day in a rain suit and trying to keep equipment dry. I'm not complaining though. It's a heck of a better circumstance than those folks on the coast have to endure. Wishing them the best! t. Posted on Oct 29, 2012, 12:24 PM from IP address 76.75.125.1 Respond to this message Goto Forum Home Good luck with your hunt T..... by Monster Hunter I along with many pray for the folks in harms way of the hurricane... Posted on Oct 29, 2012, 5:40 PM from IP address 98.67.248.243 Respond to this message Goto Forum Home Thanks! by Terry Hope to hear a good report on your knee surgery when I get back. t. Posted on Oct 30, 2012, 11:07 PM from IP address 76.75.125.177 Respond to this message Goto Forum Home No more sniping at us... by Monster Hunter I hope you don't think you're that damn smart that I don't know what you're attempting to do...no more or I'll ban your axx...and you know exactly who you are...I've had enough... Posted on Oct 27, 2012, 2:16 PM from IP address 98.67.248.243 Respond to this message Goto Forum Home My shipping address by M.K.Davis 3296 Old Benton Rd. Benton Ms. 39039 Posted on Oct 27, 2012, 1:10 PM from IP address 184.155.152.73 Respond to this message Goto Forum Home Im sure J Mike?.. by Monster Hunter Will mail them ASAP...you should have them by the end of the week... Posted on Oct 27, 2012, 1:24 PM from IP address 98.67.248.243 Respond to this message Goto Forum Home MK Davis...Monsters Junk?... by Monster Hunter https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=52vhmTeMbu4 Posted on Oct 26, 2012, 11:31 AM from IP address 98.67.248.243 Respond to this message Goto Forum Home Linky no worky n/t by Timberghost . Posted on Oct 26, 2012, 11:51 AM from IP address 66.210.200.125 Respond to this message Goto Forum Home What I'd like to see from MK by Timberghost Is the interview he did with Gimlin a few years back. How about it MK? Posted on Oct 26, 2012, 11:54 AM from IP address 66.210.200.125 Respond to this message Goto Forum Home Mk didn't video the Gimlin interview but... by Monster Hunter He did video Al Hodgson and took miles of video of scenery of his trips to the PNW...last I heard he loaned it to J Mike several years back and he hasn't received it back yet... Posted on Oct 26, 2012, 4:59 PM from IP address 98.67.248.243 Respond to this message Goto Forum Home Video by Grumpy What!!!! Sounds like J better get a box in the mail soon to MK so he can repost what Michael asked to see.... Posted on Oct 26, 2012, 5:02 PM from IP address 74.232.181.170 Respond to this message Goto Forum Home Hasn't got it back? by Timberghost So THAT's who it is.. MK told me someone had his stuff and ignored him when he asked for it back...He didn't say who at the time. That's been SEVERAL years ago. What about it JMichael? Wanna give MK his stuff back? Posted on Oct 26, 2012, 5:08 PM from IP address 69.35.168.60 Respond to this message Goto Forum Home I just spoke with MK...He headed down to J Mike's... by Monster Hunter To get his belongings...after getting about half way there J Mike called and told him not to come...MK also told me he has emailed J Mike many times and all he gets is a pissy axx auto response...apparently J Mike ain't giving MK his belongings back...and I always thought they were good friends...ain't that a hell of a note when a friend turns you around?... Posted on Oct 26, 2012, 5:15 PM from IP address 98.67.248.243 Respond to this message Goto Forum Home Dam!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! by Grumpy I've known MK a long time and that doesn't sound good, I wonder why "J" isn't returning his video's???? Telling him not to come to get them sounds like he no longer has them for whatever reason..... Posted on Oct 26, 2012, 5:26 PM from IP address 74.232.181.170 Respond to this message Goto Forum Home Maybe he did lose them but... by Monster Hunter At least call the man or email him if you did...everyone makes mistakes, misplaces or loses something of importance but man up and tell the man...hopefully J Mike locates MK's belongings and returns them... Posted on Oct 26, 2012, 5:31 PM from IP address 98.67.248.243 Respond to this message Goto Forum Home Maybe he did lose them but by Grumpy I hope your right Jim and they turn up, MK has put a lot of time, work and effort into all those video(s) and shared most for all of us to enjoy.... Posted on Oct 26, 2012, 5:36 PM from IP address 74.232.181.170 Respond to this message Goto Forum Home MK has traveled thousands of miles... by Monster Hunter to get that video...it's his not J Mikes...I find it baffling that a man will not correspond with a man but yet then again I find it even more baffling for keeping another mans work...what's up with that?... Posted on Oct 26, 2012, 5:40 PM from IP address 98.67.248.243 Respond to this message Goto Forum Home Maybe J Mike will chime in on the thread... by Monster Hunter It would be interesting to know why he hasn't returned MKs videos...always two sides to every story... Posted on Oct 26, 2012, 5:42 PM from IP address 98.67.248.243 Respond to this message Goto Forum Home MK's Videos by J Yes I do have some of MK's older mini-dv discs. I have not received any request for them in years. He did want to come get them once but I was going to be out and I asked him not to come because I wouldn't be here. The tapes were in a box in the back of a closet where i had put them up. I got them out after he had asked about them. I didn't hear back from him after that. MK is on my facebook and here, there is ample ways he can get in touch with me. Send me an address and I'll ship the tapes. I'm not holding anything from him, though at the time the tapes were not loaned to me, they were given to me because MK said he was "getting out of the bigfoot thing". He is welcome to them back, I have no need for them. J Posted on Oct 27, 2012, 11:13 AM from IP address 50.130.39.113 Respond to this message Goto Forum Home Atta boy J MikE... by Monster Hunter I knew you were a man of your word and a stand up kind of guy... Posted on Oct 27, 2012, 12:58 PM from IP address 98.67.248.243 Respond to this message Goto Forum Home I'll just be d@mned by Timberghost The man spends THOUSANDS to get that stuff, travels thousands of miles, puts in countless hours, loans it to a man that's supposed to be a friend and can't get it back? Where I come from that's not good at all if you wanna remain friends... Posted on Oct 26, 2012, 6:09 PM from IP address 174.229.192.6 Respond to this message Goto Forum Home Why? by Mr. Phelps Why in the heck would someone do something like that? Posted on Oct 26, 2012, 6:49 PM from IP address 209.240.51.46 Respond to this message Goto Forum Home Worked for me Timber... by Monster Hunter Maybe you got a haint in your computer...I hear they're going around... Posted on Oct 26, 2012, 11:54 AM from IP address 98.67.248.243 Respond to this message Goto Forum Home Me too Jim. by SAsquatcher Maybe the monsters are prancing with his connection. Posted on Oct 26, 2012, 12:17 PM from IP address 12.131.9.158 Respond to this message Goto Forum Home Not prancing,,, by SAsquatcher Pranking,,lol. Dad gum autocorrect! Posted on Oct 27, 2012, 7:40 AM from IP address 64.148.244.140 Respond to this message Goto Forum Home Up here we call it... by Terry too much beer! t. Posted on Oct 26, 2012, 1:54 PM from IP address 66.79.231.252 Respond to this message Goto Forum Home Is that why... by RubyRed I had to reconnect our laptop to the internet today and trouble-shoot the problem until I restored connectivity. Ole Silver Fox is not (bless his heart) as agile on the computer as I am and he may have pressed the wrong button or so he said. I was ready to blame it on the weather...so haints may be behind it. That's as good an explanation as any. Posted on Oct 26, 2012, 4:44 PM from IP address 70.138.218.67 Respond to this message Goto Forum Home I know how that Monster feels and by Okiebear it's no wonder he throws his leg way up over the barb wire fence. OB Posted on Oct 26, 2012, 1:48 PM from IP address 129.244.24.79 Respond to this message Goto Forum Home LMAO...so you know why... by Monster Hunter Must have the same problem Barry...LOL Posted on Oct 26, 2012, 5:00 PM from IP address 98.67.248.243 Respond to this message Goto Forum Home First walk sequence...MK Davis... by Monster Hunter http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=byZ7i-M70lk&feature=youtu.be Posted on Oct 24, 2012, 4:29 PM from IP address 98.67.248.243 Respond to this message Goto Forum Home Did anyone watch the video?... by Monster Hunter I find it interesting that the first sequence of filming Patty makes it to the tree line... Posted on Oct 25, 2012, 4:59 PM from IP address 98.67.248.243 Respond to this message Goto Forum Home Re: Did anyone watch the video?... by SasquatchMS i was blown away when i saw this a couple weeks ago, AMAZING footage and stabilization...it was like watching a whole new PG film imo. wonderful stuff ole' MK does. Posted on Oct 25, 2012, 5:20 PM from IP address 65.5.214.74 Respond to this message Goto Forum Home M.K.'s videos by Big D I think he should approach one of the major networks with his footage. YouTube is just not the media outlet for such compelling evidence. The clips could easily be marketed as the most intriguing evidence to the authenticity of the films every presented. With the recent rising interest in all matters Bigfoot, I believe millions would watch. If an individual watches the entire sequence of videos that M.K. has, they will be hard-pressed to dismiss the footage as fake. I know it is not a corpse, but it is the next best thing. If a picture is worth a 1000 words, these videos should be worth at least a few million. Hey, innocence only has to be proven beyond a reasonable doubt within the criminal justice system, and anyone with a brain cannot watch these clips and say that they are "beyond a reasonable doubt" fake. I'm just saying! I believe in you M.K., and so do several others on this forum. Think about it. V/R Big D Posted on Oct 25, 2012, 7:05 PM from IP address 216.130.129.70 Respond to this message Goto Forum Home I talked to a producer about that Big D... by Monster Hunter They're not interested in the Patterson footage one way or the other...they want real time feet on the ground sensationalism...they want folks who pick up coyote crap and make asinine statements of what it could be and of course the wood knocks, maybe a vocal and a lot of..."did you hear that?"...they want excitement and the folks to be on the edge of their seats with anticipation of actually seeing a BF that unfortunately never shows up... It's a money game with them making the money...nothing wrong in making a buck but these basxxxx don't believe in sharing the wealth... Posted on Oct 26, 2012, 5:28 PM from IP address 98.67.248.243 Respond to this message Goto Forum Home Re: I talked to a producer about that Big D... by Big D Maybe the members of GCBRO should begin the process of making a documentary. Sure, it may take two or three years to get enough footage to make a two hour show, but I believe with the talents of the individuals involved in the group coupled with the numerous areas throughout the U.S. that the GCBRO has access to, a pretty darn good film could be made that may have the potential to net the group some money to purchase equipment and to cover other expenses. Who knows MH, you might even be a movie star:-) Posted on Oct 29, 2012, 6:17 PM from IP address 216.130.147.200 Respond to this message Goto Forum Home documentary by SasquatchMS i've been in the pre stages of actually doing such, and i want to feature members of the GCBRO, im talking yes 2 hr feature length, outings, interviews, the whole 9 yards, and ideas or concepts wanted to be included shoot me an email, id like to do it up super legit, ive got the hardware and time to shoot it and make it look really damn good and epic, i want to make a beautiful artful and scientific documentary thats not been done yet > Posted on Oct 30, 2012, 7:38 PM from IP address 65.5.214.74 Respond to this message Goto Forum Home Something I didn't notice in the black eyed picture... by Monster Hunter On the left hand side of the picture it looks like a chimpanzee squatting down...what I see...is an arm with this whatever it is facing the black eyed thing... Posted on Oct 24, 2012, 12:15 PM from IP address 98.67.248.243 Respond to this message Goto Forum Home Here's one Ms. Francis took with the digital... by Monster Hunter She still hasn't figured out the zoom but when she sees something moving around in her back yard she'll take a picture...I've attached a couple here...first appears there might be something...second is later in the day that shows there is nothing there...but I do know shadows play tricks but I can't remember seeing anything in that area I thought was a Monster and I've been there many times at all different hours of the day... Posted on Oct 24, 2012, 2:08 PM from IP address 98.67.248.243 Respond to this message Goto Forum Home pics by Cochise Monster Hunter, the 2nd photo is much clearer. Maybe if you can down size the first one with the critters in view, it would be easier to see them. Posted on Oct 25, 2012, 8:12 AM from IP address 97.103.188.205 Respond to this message Goto Forum Home Here it is again...... by Monster Hunter The sun is not helping the picture at all...it appears it was taken around 10 AM from what I can tell...I enhanced the picture a bit but there is just so much I can do with limited soft ware...she many have moved the camera while taking the picture since it is not focused...I have the camera set to self focus... BTW...the Monsters she sees during the day come through periodically between 10 and noon... Posted on Oct 25, 2012, 12:46 PM from IP address 98.67.248.243 Respond to this message Goto Forum Home wow by Cochise I see it. I am sure it is something ! Day time sightings are not all to common. They must feel pretty comfortable. Maybe offer them a beer or ice tea. Do they ever show aggression? Posted on Oct 25, 2012, 2:34 PM from IP address 97.103.188.205 Respond to this message Goto Forum Home RE.Wow by Crispy Look at the size of that pumpkin!!! Now that is impressive! Looks like two Monsters back there. Posted on Oct 25, 2012, 3:36 PM from IP address 68.116.39.131 Respond to this message Goto Forum Home That's what I see as well Scott... by Monster Hunter Just inside the tree line...before I started snooping around down there they walked across the open part of her yard...maybe its my after shave they don't like... Posted on Oct 25, 2012, 4:48 PM from IP address 98.67.248.243 Respond to this message Goto Forum Home From my perspective... by Monster Hunter That's a couple of Monsters...Ms. Francis has walked out in her yard amongst them taking pictures...I know what I have seen...I know what I see in their pictures even though some are not just right...it's easy to talk about pictures that are blurry, Monsters back in a tree line but there is a certain fear factor that occurs after a sighting...most wouldn't even think to take a picture until after the fact... The picture Ms. Shirley sent to me...she said she smelled a horrid stench...heard some limbs breaking and then saw the beast...she text me telling me every hair on her body stood up but she still took the picture... Ms. Francis is now more cautious of walking out to them after I showed her several in the shrubs next to her while taking a picture of three...I don't want them to be scared to death but be reasonable remembering this is indeed a wild something...anything is possible and I don't want anything happening to anyone...so far I know of no one that has been attacked by a Monster and I don't want to hear or read about a person being physically attacked... Posted on Oct 25, 2012, 4:47 PM from IP address 98.67.248.243 Respond to this message Goto Forum Home Monsters move when Monsters want to move... by Monster Hunter day or night...I'm sure when the weather is hot here or anywhere during the day they move more at night...I use to feed during the hot months at MC...boogers would follow me around at times...probably more so then thought... Posted on Oct 25, 2012, 5:04 PM from IP address 98.67.248.243 Respond to this message Goto Forum Home Re: Here it is again...... by SasquatchMs does she want picture for evidence like to show to the world or just pictures to send to you to assess the situation? ive got a movie film camera , the same type of camera used to shoot major movies and commercials and music videos, it also does still photos, i mean waht are the chances of being able to camp out there for like 2 or 3 weeks and actually get some decent 100% footage of these things? Hell you know I dont wanna shoot one w/ a gun. just pics , films...whats the hold up on that? Posted on Oct 26, 2012, 10:43 AM from IP address 65.5.214.74 Respond to this message Goto Forum Home We do have a plan... by Monster Hunter My problem...The distance between us and my obligations...I could stay there for any length of time but I would need help with my kennel...dog pens to clean...dogs to feed and water...if they could go without food, water and wade sxxx for a month I'd go down and stay...we do have video cameras going at all times...we also have camcorders, digital cameras...not the best by all means but enough quality to film or take pictures of Monsters... Appreciate the offer but we'll just keep on plugging... Posted on Oct 26, 2012, 11:45 AM from IP address 98.67.248.243 Respond to this message Goto Forum Home MH, this may sound stupid but... by Nellie if you believe they were taking the fried chicken you were leaving before ...how about leaving some up on that gas tank with the camera aimed that way. The gas tank seems like it's sitting more out in the open than the shed. I just find it hard to believe these critters are a lot smarter than we humans and we can't trick(or treat) them into being videoed or captured on a trail cam. Very aggravating! I applaud all your efforts! Posted on Oct 28, 2012, 1:47 AM from IP address 108.9.219.70 Respond to this message Goto Forum Home Fried chicken on the gas tank... by Monster Hunter I'd be feeding the dogs Nellie that's why I used the old cooler trailer...last time I left the large box...no pictures...could be the game camera malfunctioning...BTW...I did have a video camera pointed where you could plainly see the trailer...nothing that I could see... Posted on Oct 29, 2012, 8:20 AM from IP address 98.67.248.243 Respond to this message Goto Forum Home Dang MH...it just sounds so frustrating... by Nellie there has just got to be a way to get a better video or picture of these monsters. If trying to bait them is out then what would tempt them to show themselves out in the open for a cheesecake shot? Posted on Oct 29, 2012, 8:43 AM from IP address 108.9.219.70 Respond to this message Goto Forum Home I refuse to get frustrated knowing... by Monster Hunter from years of fooling with the Monsters you have to persevere and be patient...when I first started with a game camera years back I thought it would be easy and at times I was frustrated...now...what happens...happens...but I'm still eager to see if anything is caught on any of the cameras...more times then not I'm disappointed...I stay disappointed quite a bit fooling with the Monsters... Posted on Oct 29, 2012, 12:07 PM from IP address 98.67.248.243 Respond to this message Goto Forum Home Hang in there MH... by Nellie I know some day you WILL BE REWARDED for your efforts. And every one on the MB hangs on too! I can only wait for that day. Posted on Oct 29, 2012, 11:40 PM from IP address 108.9.219.70 Respond to this message Goto Forum Home That's right Nellie. by SAsquatcher I believe that Jim is gonna be the one to get good video from down there. He and the ladies have got some pretty good stuff already and I think that once he gets these new knees installed, he is gonna take to them like never before. Posted on Oct 31, 2012, 3:03 AM from IP address 64.148.244.140 Respond to this message Goto Forum Home Here is another video... by anaconda For me, the give-away is that the camera WAITS expectantly for the arrival of the Sasquatch or whatever it is. Opinions? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ivsQFdMiazY&feature=youtu.be Posted on Oct 24, 2012, 5:28 AM from IP address 72.197.162.253 Respond to this message Goto Forum Home Re: Here is another video... by Ken3030 Looks like the same costume he used in the other two sasquatch videos he has up. LOL Posted on Oct 24, 2012, 8:58 AM from IP address 184.38.51.124 Respond to this message Goto Forum Home Unbelievable... by Monster Hunter Those folks have a BF costume... Posted on Oct 24, 2012, 11:43 AM from IP address 98.67.248.243 Respond to this message Goto Forum Home Re: Here is another video... by Big D This is not even a good fake and I hope his mother does not watch this and hear his trashy mouth. Posted on Oct 24, 2012, 8:28 PM from IP address 108.93.229.102 Respond to this message Goto Forum Home Ms. Francis did use the digital camera I loaned her... by Monster Hunter Obviously older since we haven't had any frost since last winter...I really don't know what these impressions are from and she can't remember...by looking at the picture it appears it was taken close to the house... Posted on Oct 23, 2012, 2:01 PM from IP address 98.67.213.69 Respond to this message Goto Forum Home To me.... by Timberghost They both look three toed...left and right Posted on Oct 23, 2012, 6:31 PM from IP address 69.35.168.61 Respond to this message Goto Forum Home That's what I see as well Timber... by Monster Hunter looks like a three toed track...a couple of them... Posted on Oct 24, 2012, 12:19 PM from IP address 98.67.248.243 Respond to this message Goto Forum Home A pair of... by Terry shoes left outside over night? There should be a trackway leading to and away if it were in fact prints. t. Posted on Oct 24, 2012, 8:41 AM from IP address 76.75.125.108 Respond to this message Goto Forum Home A pair of shoes left outside during the winter months?... by Monster Hunter Have you ever done that T?...if I have I can't remember... Posted on Oct 24, 2012, 11:17 AM from IP address 98.67.248.243 Respond to this message Goto Forum Home Winter by Terry Ha, I forgot that's what you in the South call winter. I was thinking along the lines of a night of frost after a nice day. We get frosty nights like that here starting the third week of Sept. By the middle of Dec. were usually up to our knees in snow. t. Posted on Oct 24, 2012, 1:32 PM from IP address 76.75.125.108 Respond to this message Goto Forum Home I can't remember the last frost here T... by Monster Hunter But I do know I've been mowing grass since February...that's a first for me...usually we have enough winter that goes through March to April... Posted on Oct 24, 2012, 1:46 PM from IP address 98.67.248.243 Respond to this message Goto Forum Home Why so clear? by Doug Murdoch One would have to really beg the question why is this photo so clear and the BF photo below so blurry? Why does she not use this same camera to get clear shots? I hope her intent is not to deceive. Posted on Oct 24, 2012, 1:02 PM from IP address 24.69.200.19 Respond to this message Goto Forum Home I began the thread saying Ms. Francis used the digital camera... by Monster Hunter Ms. Shirley has been using her cell phone to take pictures which is handy but the picture quality is not up to par...she told me this morning she would start using her digital camera...Ms. Francis has been using a 5 dollar 35mm walmart film camera which is darn near as bad as a cell phone when it comes to picture quality but the picture can be enhanced with out losing as much as with a digital...the developing solution these folks used is old therefore the tint and white specks... I loaned Ms. Francis a digital camera with zoom that she is now using...I hope...Last time down I swapped SD cards with her...so far I haven't seen anything in her pictures other then the tracks but I haven't given them the proper time as of yet... Two different ladies, two different homes within several hundred yards or less of each other...they are good friends spend time together drinking coffee and doing what ladies do...but they are sincere when it comes to Monsters...they know what to look for and spot items most who call themselves researchers over look... Posted on Oct 24, 2012, 1:44 PM from IP address 98.67.248.243 Respond to this message Goto Forum Home Re: I began the thread saying Ms. Francis used the digital camera... by Versatile I an on board with Grumpy on using video instead of a camera. Sure would be great if you could get either lady to wear a ball cap mounted video camera.Another good idea that costs money. Posted on Oct 25, 2012, 7:24 AM from IP address 68.70.76.22 Respond to this message Goto Forum Home a researchers dream by cochise It sure sounds like the monsters are very comfortable, relaxed, hanging around this area. It is a researchers dream come true. Monster Hunter, have these critters displayed any aggression toward these ladies? Posted on Oct 25, 2012, 8:17 AM from IP address 97.103.188.205 Respond to this message Goto Forum Home Some aggression... by Monster Hunter Growling and hitting the house...Ms. Shirley's back screen door was heavily damaged...at times they'll hear them raising hexx...usually around midnight if I remember correctly... Ms Francis had some five or six month old pups...one late afternoon they were raising sand in the small field littered with pine trees...I walked out there...when I got to where the pups were they took off going to the old barn...I didn't see anything though I scoured that area well...two weeks later those pups were missing and I know a person couldn't catch them...I wormed and inoculated these pups with Ms. Francis being the only one who could hem them up long enough to catch...Ms. Shirley has lost a dog or two...and some chickens, guineas and ducks...Jake found a neatly stack of chicken feathers behind the pond and I found where something plucked a guinea and neatly stacked the feathers... Ms. Shirley and a friend came home one night from the store...something in the pine thicket started growling...it got louder and more menacing before the ladies could get in the house...scared them so bad Ms. Shirley either left her keys in the door or broke a key off trying to get in the house... Posted on Oct 25, 2012, 12:59 PM from IP address 98.67.248.243 Respond to this message Goto Forum Home aggressive monsters by cochise I'm thinking they are not too scared of anything. Damn I wish I could go with you. We could set up some trip flares, bang flares, and sit with pepper spray. Posted on Oct 25, 2012, 2:38 PM from IP address 97.103.188.205 Respond to this message Goto Forum Home Doug you complain about wise crack remarks... by Monster Hunter But you leave yourself wide open to have your hand slapped... You wrote: "I hope her intent is not to deceive." Had you monitored our forum for the last few years you would know these ladies have no intentions of deceiving you or anyone else...Is Doug Murdoch your real name or is it your intent to deceive us here?...do you live within the USA?...a state would be okay to mention?...what we know about you is what you've told us...any person can claim anything without folks personally knowing who they are...please send me an email to verify who you are at... jimlansdale@gmail.com Your post is fine other then the last sentence...that's accusatory...I have personally been researching investigating this area for several years...I know all involved and trust them...these people are more then contacts...they're friends... Posted on Oct 24, 2012, 4:49 PM from IP address 98.67.248.243 Respond to this message Goto Forum Home Re: Doug you complain about wise crack remarks... by SasquatchMS playing devils advocate: MH , if your friends w/ these ladies and have developed some relationship in any sense, then thats grounds for bias in terms of information brought to you by them...i mean..i dont trust anyone..and thats the smartest thing to do in science.. Posted on Oct 25, 2012, 10:05 AM from IP address 65.5.214.74 Respond to this message Goto Forum Home I'm not a scientist... by Monster Hunter And I have witnessed many times what they claim to have heard, seen and the most important thing...taken pictures of...I make friends with all my contacts dropping by from time to time to check in...I would much rather have folks glad to see me then say..."oh crap"...there's that damn Monster hunter... I do understand many people believe science plays a roll, though small, in this mythical beast...but I could care less what any scientist thinks of me...how I do my research and investigations...not one has donated one thin dime...everything, like darn near all of us, operate out of our own pockets... I may be biased towards these folks to some degree but not as far as gathering evidence...good folks who every researcher needs to find and associate with... Posted on Oct 25, 2012, 1:08 PM from IP address 98.67.248.243 Respond to this message Goto Forum Home yep you found the place by cochise to hunt these boogers. I like your attitude. You're not trying to get noticed and attention. How many times were you on TV? I made the news channels 3 or 4 times and numerous newspapers. Not for hunting monsters though. Hell they even called me a hero. Posted on Oct 25, 2012, 2:42 PM from IP address 97.103.188.205 Respond to this message Goto Forum Home I hunt because I want answers... by Monster Hunter I've been on TV but have turned down offers...me showing and telling someone behind a camera for free is not what I'm into...pay me the right money so I can hang with the Monsters I'm interested...not interested at all in news papers...these hicker nuts write down what you say and when you finally read what they print they make you out as a lunatic wondering the woods for a creature that doesn't exist... I've been called a lot of names by folks in this community but I guarantee "hero" didn't come out of their mouths...LOL...and life goes on... Posted on Oct 25, 2012, 4:56 PM from IP address 98.67.248.243 Respond to this message Goto Forum Home You have by Cochise a great sense of humor too. It sounds extremely intersting what you have accomplished. Thanks for all the info. It certainly takes my mind off of me! Posted on Oct 25, 2012, 6:03 PM from IP address 97.103.188.205 Respond to this message Goto Forum Home Speaking of money... by Terry Spike TV just announced they are offering 10 million bucks for proof that bf exists. I think they're gonna do a show. It's probably just a promotional gimmick but it's a good incentive for every lunatic to hit the bush armed. t. Posted on Oct 25, 2012, 6:25 PM from IP address 66.79.245.199 Respond to this message Goto Forum Home dangerous by Cochise It will risky walking around. Think about hunters that get shot wearing blaze orange. Not a good idea to offer big$$ bucks without rules. Posted on Oct 25, 2012, 7:11 PM from IP address 97.103.188.205 Respond to this message Goto Forum Home Re: Speaking of money... by Big D There you go M.K. With your technical expertise, video evidence, first hand interview knowledge, and the research support of the fine people of the G.C.B.R.O., everyone could have a merrier Christmas this year Heck, if nothing else, Spike may provide financial support to purchase the cutting edge equipment that would certainly help in the search for the creatures as well as a promise for a healthy pay day in exchange for the exclusive rights for the proof WHEN it is collected. Just because this research has never paid off doesn't mean it can't. Hey, maybe even MH can get him some new knees!!! Posted on Oct 25, 2012, 7:19 PM from IP address 216.130.129.70 Respond to this message Goto Forum Home New knees... by Monster Hunter Tuesday morning...hopefully will be back walking around in a few months without falling... Posted on Oct 26, 2012, 8:43 AM from IP address 98.67.248.243 Respond to this message Goto Forum Home Good for you! by Crispy I'll wait til you heal up and are hitting the brush before I come back down. That way you will experience what the rest of us call "Keeping up with Grumpy" first hand....... Posted on Oct 26, 2012, 8:57 AM from IP address 68.116.39.131 Respond to this message Goto Forum Home Looking forward to your visit Scott... by Monster Hunter All the group would enjoy seeing you... Posted on Oct 26, 2012, 9:12 AM from IP address 98.67.248.243 Respond to this message Goto Forum Home Good for you by Grumpy Scott, after my bout with radiation and age I'm not what I used to be and never will be again....... Jim will probably out hike me with his new knee's....... He may even be bionic with today's medical advancements!!!!! Getting old sucks.... Posted on Oct 26, 2012, 11:26 AM from IP address 74.232.181.170 Respond to this message Goto Forum Home Getting old by Crispy Does suck large rocks. And I am fighting it for as long as possible. I can't imagine keeping up with a "radiated" Grumpy would be any easier. Although you might glow a nice green after dark now, making headlamps unnecessary, and making it easier to keep track of where you are! If the world as we know is still here in Spring........ Posted on Oct 26, 2012, 4:06 PM from IP address 68.116.39.131 Respond to this message Goto Forum Home New Knees by Terry Good luck with that Jim. It's always scarey getting stuff like that done but anyone I know who did it is happy they did. The good thing too is, it's a long way from the heart! t. Posted on Oct 26, 2012, 9:55 AM from IP address 66.79.231.252 Respond to this message Goto Forum Home Thanks T... by Monster Hunter It is time to have something done...now is that time... Posted on Oct 26, 2012, 10:12 AM from IP address 98.67.248.243 Respond to this message Goto Forum Home My prayers will be with you MH for you on Tuesday by Nellie I pray your knee surgery will be successful and your healing time will be short. God bless you. Posted on Oct 28, 2012, 1:31 AM from IP address 108.9.219.70 Respond to this message Goto Forum Home Thanks Nellie... by Monster Hunter Hopefully in a few months I'll be able to get around without stumbling and falling down... Posted on Oct 28, 2012, 7:31 AM from IP address 174.250.194.102 Respond to this message Goto Forum Home What proof is... by Monster Hunter A corpse and then it could be argued it's not a Bigfoot...No money will change hands...just like any other television network...your work, evidence and knowledge for the carrot dangling in front of the horse... Posted on Oct 26, 2012, 9:32 AM from IP address 98.67.248.243 Respond to this message Goto Forum Home Ape Canyon attack never happened??? by MikeInNC See the link re: the questioning of BF attacks and see the "background story" on the Ape Canyon attack. Never in my all years of hearing BF stories have I ever read/heard that YMCA kids used to throw rocks at miner's cabins. Or - have I simply missed every single instance of this story's debunking??? http://www.foxnews.com/science/2012/10/22/bigfoot-vandalizes-winnebago-and-other-questionable-claims/?intcmp=features -Mike Posted on Oct 23, 2012, 11:22 AM from IP address 72.37.171.204 Respond to this message Goto Forum Home Well I'll just be darn... by Monster Hunter If it was really scouts even Teddy Roosevelt was fooled in to thinking Monsters were bombarding their camp...I do think the article is close to accurate as far as BF tearing a persons property up...to some BF enthusiasts everything they hear or see they relate to BF...if it were that easy then this mystery would be solved... Posted on Oct 23, 2012, 11:58 AM from IP address 98.67.213.69 Respond to this message Goto Forum Home Re: Ape Canyon attack never happened??? by Versatile A slanted article. I would take the word of people there over some mope(he got paid for writing the article) years later debunking it.Those miners weren't sissies or lazy. The miners would have known the kids were there. City people have little knowledge as to how thing work in the boonies. Only so many people in the area and only so may trails or roads and the same with places to buy food.Thus even without telephones they knew what was going on in the area. Posted on Oct 23, 2012, 1:36 PM from IP address 68.70.76.22 Respond to this message Goto Forum Home Apes at Ape Canyon... by Monster Hunter At times I readily throw out the baby in the bath water...I know there are some excellent researchers out in the PNW but there's something about some of those folks who leave a bad taste in my mouth...skookum cast...elbe track line...JG and his casting of Wallace faked carved tracks...etc... But Versatile makes a good point...if I'm in a wilderness setting I would think I would hear and may possibly see scouts in the area...maybe to make a point the writer of the article fudged a bit by adding the Ape Canyon incident as kids and not Monsters bombarding the shack... Posted on Oct 23, 2012, 2:10 PM from IP address 98.67.213.69 Respond to this message Goto Forum Home the year of the incident by Cochise does not make their statement believable. Posted on Oct 23, 2012, 4:31 PM from IP address 97.103.188.205 Respond to this message Goto Forum Home Re: Ape Canyon attack never happened??? by Versatile He says"Wild animals attack cars with food in them" Shows he doesn't now much about animals. He says boy scouts throwing rocks. Then who tried to knock down the door? Boy Scouts? No link to back up that it was boy scout. No name of the Boy Scout Camp.No real rebuttal facts just a rebuttal. Posted on Oct 24, 2012, 6:57 AM from IP address 68.70.76.22 Respond to this message Goto Forum Home Guns by Crispy http://www.bigfootencounters.com/classics/beck.htm There would have been dead little scouts, as the miners shot at the critters. The original story has never changed. The people who have rewritten it for their own purposes have changed facts. Seems pretty normal now for history to get rewritten for personal gain or attention.. Some folks say and claim anything to get their 15 minutes. Posted on Oct 25, 2012, 8:30 AM from IP address 68.116.39.131 Respond to this message Goto Forum Home Question for the Hunters by Cochise After reading a few of the posts, I saw there are more than a few hunters here. I thought about this...................what calibar to"shoot bigfoot". I don't have any desire to kill one, too old and too close to dieing myself to want to do it. So..........A large calibar for stopping power my thoughts, minimum calibars...............338 win mag, 350 rem mag, 358 Norma mag, 375 H&H mag, the Weatherby's 340 mag, 378 mag, the family of 416's, Rigby, Ruger, Remington, 45/70 with Bufflao Bore or Garrett loads, and of course 450 Marlin, any 12 guage shotguns with Brenke slugs, or the newer Black Cloud slugs. The 458, 460, and higher I think are too much if there is such a thing. I would enjoy hearing other opinions. Posted on Oct 23, 2012, 8:32 AM from IP address 97.103.188.205 Respond to this message Goto Forum Home There are many excellent calibers to hunt a Monster with... by Monster Hunter But IMO it's the shot more then the caliber...I no longer can handle the big bores so I use my 30.06 with a 150 grain core lock bullet...scramble the brain and the body will die but I would only take a head shot unless of course it's me or him...I also carry my home security 12 guage...bad to the bone at close range which down here more then likely the shot will be up close and personal...couple of slugs with the other five single 0 buckshot...when I use to walk MC at night I carried my 870 shotgun with an extended magazine loaded with number 6...here's why...sure I had my hand gun but in the areas I walked it was thick brush...my intentions...blind the beast and his arse belongs to me... Me personally I owe these stinking basxxxx for killing my dogs...I couldn't tell you how many dogs I've lost at MC...I do suspicion Monsters were responsible for taking 8 month old pups from their mother...skinning and eating them...now, IMO, that's cold blooded... Posted on Oct 23, 2012, 11:06 AM from IP address 98.67.213.69 Respond to this message Goto Forum Home I agree by cochise Your choices certainly are good ones. I killed allot of elk with a 30/06. I like a short bbl 12 gauge. My first weapon I bought, when I was discharged, was an Ithaca model 37, 18" bbl, 8 shot . Popular years ago, but the Rem 870 is king now. Sorry about your dogs, that would make me angry too. Posted on Oct 23, 2012, 11:35 AM from IP address 97.103.188.205 Respond to this message Goto Forum Home Remington 870 kicked to hard for me... by Monster Hunter I use a browning now...several reasons but the main reason...the shells eject from the bottom...not important for a right handed shooter but definitely a good advantage for us lefties...20 inch barrel...holds 7 2/34 high brass...it can handle three inch shells...I can't... Posted on Oct 23, 2012, 12:02 PM from IP address 98.67.213.69 Respond to this message Goto Forum Home 12 guage 3 inch mag by DonDon for me. Got a 30.06 I take as well for those long range shots. I'm in the woods 99% of the time so that 12 gauge is my constant companion. OH, and my .357 mag pistol in my back pack as well, JUST IN CASE I have to shoot my buddie in the foot. After all, you don't have to outrun the monster, just your buddie LOL Posted on Oct 23, 2012, 12:36 PM from IP address 74.240.7.104 Respond to this message Goto Forum Home shotguns by cochise So far the shotgun is the weapon of choice. I know that is what I unzipped from the case in my tent when I had a midnight intruder. I certainly felt confident with that Ithaca in my hands. I too am too old for the heavy magnums, but it wasn't the case years ago. A 270 grn bullet out of a 375 H7H mag has the same ballistic coefficient as a 180 grn 30/06. I used to hunt the moutains with that heavy rifle. Larger bore, flat shooting, and heavy slug ( 270 / 300 grns), has it in spades over many other calibars. Over a hundred years old and still the choice in Africa and Alaska. Posted on Oct 23, 2012, 1:47 PM from IP address 97.103.188.205 Respond to this message Goto Forum Home My personal choices, by Grumpy are my 1895G loaded with Garrett 540gr +P loads and when in really thick brush my tactical 12ga loaded with 3" 600gr Black Magic slugs.. for anything other than monsters I prefer my 30-06 bolt action rifle... Posted on Oct 24, 2012, 8:55 AM from IP address 74.232.181.170 Respond to this message Goto Forum Home loads for the 45/70 by Anonymous Grumpy I think your projectile in the garrett is too tough for a thin skin animal. It was designed for elephants, cape buffalo, and hippos. You will lose expansion and knock down power as a result. The shot gun slug is a different mater, excellent choice. The lead projectile is much softer. Posted on Oct 25, 2012, 8:10 AM from IP address 97.103.188.205 Respond to this message Goto Forum Home Anonymous by Grumpy This bullet is a hard cast lead alloy and Not meant to expand, it was designed to shatter and destroy any bone it comes in contact with.... In my opinion this is the only way to put down large dangerous game quickly and additionally Randy Garrett designed this bullet load combination to put down a grizzly quickly, and IMO these apes fall into the same category, and especially if they are on all fours when shot. Posted on Oct 25, 2012, 8:47 AM from IP address 74.232.181.170 Respond to this message Goto Forum Home Anonymous by Grumpy Additionally your question was approved since I knew who you were and figured you just forgot to enter your log in name, please be sure to use it when posting so others know who is posting. Posted on Oct 25, 2012, 8:53 AM from IP address 74.232.181.170 Respond to this message Goto Forum Home sorry by Cochise I will try to get better at this. Yes I see your point. I just thought the bullet projectile would pass through, arm, leg, stomach area. I have some Bufflo Bore Expanding , I buy both and reload too. My thought is that you have a dual purpose pojectile if it expands, you know what I mean. Tear off a limb vs puncing 1/2 inch holes. Posted on Oct 25, 2012, 9:53 AM from IP address 97.103.188.205 Respond to this message Goto Forum Home Sorry by Grumpy Exactly, that's why most I know us the 12ga in thick brush and the larger caliber rifles in more open terrain between 25-100 yards, last hunt it would have been great to see or shoot more than 25 yards in any direction..... monsters just don't stand out in the open waving at us, and if in the open they are likely going quad and moving fast.. Posted on Oct 25, 2012, 12:13 PM from IP address 74.232.181.170 Respond to this message Goto Forum Home if i had one in my sights... by SasquatchMs it would be on the gun I use for precision shooting, a fully modded and trued Semi automatice sniper system by dpms, i dont believe in "chest" or "center mass" kill shots, because the most ethical way of dispatching an animal of any sort is a brain shot...thaat being said, my bullet wouldnt be for terminal ballistic optimazation @ the center of the animal, I want to power through skull material, my best groups so far are 3/8" @ 100..which is sub MOA all the way out to 900 yards,...ANyways sorry to rant, THE bullet I use is a Laupa FMJ @ 167 grains, hitting w/ around a ton of force @ 100 yards...meaning the solid base and jacket will stay in relatively good shape when hitting skull and pushing through at which point the bullet will fragemnt bone material into brain along w/ the shockwave of the bullet itself and kill whatever giant ape thingy it is..., power is okay for but usually center mass shots create so much shock the animal wont know its missing its liver, half a lung, whatever and run a little, instant down shots usually result in the bullet or bone material hitting the spinal column , and for the you need an incredibly large bullet which would most likely destroy lots of important things inside the immediate area of the cardiovascular system, but then you got to worry about 2nd shots if needed, bolt actions wont do for that sort of thing, ..for instance even if i graze the skull, ive got 19 more rounds of .308 that i stack progressivly w/ things like tsx bullets and partitions so it will eventually stop fast fast fast ..put me in a ring or area w/ one of these things..and i promise i could deliver Posted on Oct 25, 2012, 10:03 AM from IP address 65.5.214.74 Respond to this message Goto Forum Home SasquatchMs by Grumpy I agree to an extent, but monsters don't stand in the open for these shots to take place, the area(s) we hunt are some of the thickest brush and thickets anywhere, both day and night, and small light weight bullets; ie; anything 165gr or under, just don't get there on target after passing through several small trees or branches..... and I have never believed in all that ballistic BS and hydrostatic shock statistics... I'm a firm believer in Big and Slow when it comes to knock down power on Large dangerous animals. Posted on Oct 25, 2012, 12:07 PM from IP address 74.232.181.170 Respond to this message Goto Forum Home calibars by Cochise I agree big bullets. And you can have the velocity too. Look at my list. 250 grn and heavier going as fast or faster as a 30/06, which many like, but BIG slugs. Still me sitting here talking isn't the same as out there doing. I do have a Belgium made FN FAL. The scope is the one the military used in viet nam. It has the metal cam ring auto bullet compensator, for distance adjustment. I paid$900 just for the scope, with the base, in the '70s.

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Brush hunting is tough...

by Monster Hunter

Some areas you can't see twenty five yards during the day let alone at night...yeah there are some open areas but Monsters seem to travel hugging the brushy spots...I use a 12 gauge but many like the 45/70...darn sure a get off of me rifle that can penetrate whatever is in its way...

But the idea placement of a shot would be to the head IMO...scramble the brain...

Posted on Oct 25, 2012, 1:19 PM

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good website..high speed TONS of bullet tests in slow motion on basllistics gel

by SasquatchMS

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Ballastics Gell test

by Grumpy

Don't even begin to show what happens when a smaller caliber lighter weight bullet hits heavy bone structure, most break apart and don't shatter/destroy heavy bone which IMO is what is needed to bring down LDG. Granted they do damage and cause massive internal bleeding but that does not stop LDG before they possibly close the distance and get their revenge before their brain finally tells the body they are dead. I spent 15 years as a licensed Gun Repairman with my own shop and don't put much faith into printed material which normally depicts what the author/manufacturer wants it to.

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indeed

by SasquatchMS

I do agree with that statement, the only solution to killing one w/ one shot is cavitation of skull and brain, or massive MASSIVE liquifaction of the center mass cardiovasular system (with hopes of a spinal column impact area), i just disagree w/ the implied theory that a small bullet (under 180, FMJ)@ > 2500fps will not properly compromise the skull and launch bone and lead into the brain cavity...beacuse im almost entirely certain it would ...i mean my bullets punch 1/4" steel plate like swiss cheese..and hell w/ the mosin nagant I have , firing a 180gr steel core...i mean..thats AP , even a deflection...your still dumping over 60% of the energy of the bullet onto an area the size of a basketball..something like..i dunno 1400 ft/lbs of force? thats like getting hit by a car right in your head

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indeed

by Grumpy

And again I fully agree that if you are lucky enough to miss all the brush and limbs and indeed get to the point of aim the job will be done... I just don't want to rely on luck with all the variables present when hunting LDG...... I think everyone here agrees that a head shot if possible is the way to go.

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We haven't clarified

by Cochise

the proper projectile ( bullet) that is needed. I am in the big bore camp. I modified my Marlin loading gate to use Garretts' 310 grn hard cast in my .44 mag.. Of course my Marlin Guide gun in 45/70 is my go to hog rifle.

You need to match the bullet to the game. Deer hunting is less demanding of a bullet than elk or moose. Trophy Bonded, Swift A Frame, Nosler Partition, Barnes solid copper, and the "inter-lock's of factory loads) do NOT fail. Just a fact. I would not think a big foot anatomy is denser than a elk, and certainly not as broad and thick as a grizzly bear.

I used to use a 375 H&H mag but switched to my Browning 30/06 when I witness how effective the smaller calibars were with the proper bullet.

Regardless what you carry, what you shoot, you need "expensive " bullets that will hold up. The final word although is accuracy. I am used to my 45/70 but my wife shoots a Ruger mannlicher in .308, because she is more accurate with the scoped bolt action. YOU HAVE TO HIT YOUR TARGET. Too many hunters I saw didn't. I stopped going in groups unless I knew the men were good shooters and woodsman.

Grumpy, I guess the correct description would be you were a "gunsmith" for 15 years?

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Cochise

by Grumpy

I agree with bullet placement, and can't understand how on these TV shows almost every deer shot needs to be tracked to be found... maybe I have just been lucky but every deer I have shot with a 30-06 using 150-165 grain bullets have dropped where they stood. And as far as Gunsmithing I am and always will be old school... A Gunsmith to me is someone who has the ability to take a block of steel and make whatever he/she wants like in times past, all others are gun repairman since they just repair or modify an existing firearm.. granted they may use vertical mills, lathes and other equipment for these repairs but do not create a complete firearm from scratch, this to me is a Gunsmith.

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larger bore bullets

by SasquatchMs

well if your talking about something > .311 then your wanting HP, JHP, Partition, Polymertip, but preferablly the new TSX bullets from Barnes, as they have DEEP penetration yet flower petal after they slow down a bit upon entering the chest cavity past the rib cage, sternum...whatnot. problem w/ a slow moving round is that by the time it passes ribcage its dumped so much of its energy within the first 4" of the object that proper liquifaction of internal organs is nearly impossible unless your up really really close because the shockwave wont have enough force to rip up membranes, connective tissue and rupture a wide area of vascular tissue. thats why im in the camp of not "small" but smaller and faster even in brush or at distance or even a chest shot because the shockwave will absolutly liquify the internal organs inside the chest cavity past the ribcage, instead of it being like a hammer to the heart it would be more like a small explosive inside the entire chest of the animal, preferablly if i were contracted to hunt on of these guys, id use a .338 lapua magnum (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.338_Lapua_Magnum ) w/ a 225gr barnes T-DPX, moving at around 3000fps muzzle and lord..(calculating) 4500 ft/lbs(est) @ 100yards
. I should clarify I study the art and science of ballistics both in a terminal( biological/medical sense) and the physics of projectiles. Brush is sometimes a problem w/ smaller rounds, but even larger bullets because they are already moving slow and have so much force against them after leaving the barrel (air pressure, aerodynamics,) that any loss in momentum really is a hinderace in their terminal performance. Of course they might pass through small limbs, but their trajectory will change even w/ the slightest outside factor just as any bullet will because their mass is usually so small when they are hanging out there in the elements on their way to the target.

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Where's the body?

by Doug Murdoch

Many pages down on your website, you guys mention that you are pro-kill and want to harvest a body to prove BFs existence, so why the change in attitude?? Why not take one from MS Francis' site if there are so many there?

I'm sure with enough people and firepower you should be able to harvest a body without a problem. All you give us now are stories and blurry photos.

Posted on Oct 22, 2012, 1:47 AM

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Our hunts are kept confidential...

by Monster Hunter

We haven't changed our pro-kill stance for discovery...we just don't advertise what we do as an organization as far as our hunts are concerned...perhaps we need someone like yourself that apparently has a well thought out plan for harvest...

to quote you...

"I'm sure with enough people and firepower you should be able to harvest a body without a problem."

Which tells me you have no idea about hunting these Monsters...easy to say...more then difficult to do...

BTW...If the stories and "blurry" photos bother you it is IMO that probably you shouldn't look or read our forum...our intentions are to share and not manipulate your thoughts where you feel as if you have to post negative comments...always remember...we don't owe you or anyone else one damn thing...we share to inform and educate...either your learning curve is lacking or you have all the answers...either way...I could care less...

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A photo just for you Doug...

by Monster Hunter

Taken by Ms. Shirley at her home with a cell phone...she said she heard something...smelled an awful stench and took this picture of what appears to be a Monster...

Posted on Oct 22, 2012, 8:04 AM

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one big SOB

by go200mph

Thanks for the picture Miss Shirley and MH. That is one big joker. We've had this same conversation about harvesting one from the ladies living area and it is simple for us to say let's take one of the many that seem to frequent their land but as you so rightly pointed out the ramifications for the ladies could be terrible. We don't know what retribution the remaining monsters would carry out on Miss Francis and Miss Shirley for harming one of their clan.

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I do agree...

by Monster Hunter

That's truly a huge Monster...

Posted on Oct 23, 2012, 10:53 AM

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Ooowee

by MS Mike

thats a big boy!

Posted on Oct 23, 2012, 4:30 PM

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Re: Where's the body?

by Big D

I'm curious Mr. Murdoch, are you a hunter?

Posted on Oct 22, 2012, 9:10 AM

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Most who post wisecracks Big D...

by Monster Hunter

Usually have no idea of hunting common known critters let alone hunting Monsters...I've never had any problems hunting any animals other then Monsters...easy to track, find bedding and food areas but this beast is another subject all together...

Posted on Oct 22, 2012, 11:37 AM

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Where's the body?

by Doug Murdoch

No wisecrack comment at all, just some honest questions. You seem to judge people before you get all the facts MH. I'm a longtime hunter and ex-military.

Where there's a will, there is a way the old saying goes. Why the verbal abuse from you when you don't agree with someone? I never came out verbal abusing anyone, just asked some simple questions.

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by Monster Hunter

You wrote:

"All you give us now are stories and blurry photos"

But I don't think I did...

BTW...I've been doing this for years and know from experience many claim something they're not...as far as judging you...I can only judge you by your post...

Posted on Oct 22, 2012, 3:43 PM

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Re: Most who post wisecracks Big D...

by Big D

I can only imagine the experiences you must have had over the years hunting these creatures. I was asking if he had any experience as a hunter to get a sense of where his seemingly obvious disgust for this particular set of posts was coming from. I have been involved in this type of research for just a short time now, and though I have only participated in actual field excursions just a few times, I have done it enough to know that it is a bit different from stalking any other type of quarry I have ever set out after. I think to assume that your group can simply go out and bag a creature as historically elusive as this creature has been is just silly, and not to mention it is not as simple as just killing the creature should it appear. There are all sorts of laws, both criminal as well as wildlife related, that must be taken into consideration. One must also consider the wishes of the land owner. Maybe the lady where you have been doing the research does not want the animal(s) harmed. Maybe she simply wants to learn more about the creatures and wants you and your group to assist her in the learning. I don't know all of the facts, I just know that this is a forum that deals with a very controversial topic. It is also one that gives both believers and non-believers the opportunity to make their case for others to consider. I just hate to see a situation where someone APPEARS to be intolerant of another's beliefs or experiences. That is exactly how the War of Northern Aggression began

Posted on Oct 22, 2012, 1:32 PM

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Where's the body?

by Doug Murdoch

Yes, I've been a hunter since I was 14 years old and ex-military for 28 years, so I know what I'm talking about. Is this question to get more wise-crack answers?

Posted on Oct 22, 2012, 12:47 PM

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Absolutely not Murdoch...

by Monster Hunter

I'm a Viet Nam vet...combat...grew up in the East Texas bottoms of the Sabine river hunting both day and night and fished every hole of water we could put a hook in...so I'm really not impressed with your credentials as far as Monster hunting is concerned...you may be an outstanding hunter for common big game animals...I have no idea if you are or not...but many have been with me Monster hunting...

you wrote:

"so I know what I'm talking about."...

I don't think you know what you are talking about when it comes to Monster hunting...I agree to disagree...

Posted on Oct 22, 2012, 4:03 PM

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hunting a monster

by Cochise

It is my opinion that it is impossible to "sneak" up on a monster. I don't know what their 6th sense might be, but you only see one when it wants you to see them.

Monster Hunter, It did cross my mind when you posted that pic, it might be a chance to "waste" one booger but I know you have more issues intervening. I think cameras at her house is the way to go. You can collect allot of data for future research watching this area. Keep the info coming, I can't wait to find out more!

Posted on Oct 22, 2012, 4:21 PM

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been there and DONE IT

by woodswatcher

and you can sneak up on them, you just have to get off a 4wheeler to do it.

they don't like it one bit when you get within 100 yards of them and them not know it. 2 times I have done it, they didn't even look back as they ran for heavy cover.

better yet, catch them in the middle of a pond.

Posted on Oct 22, 2012, 8:32 PM

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tell me more

by Cochise

Where,
enquiring minds want to know

Posted on Oct 23, 2012, 8:06 AM

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they aren't exactly

by woodswatcher

supernatural or anything.

you roam around the woods enough where you have an active group and you will stumble unto them one way or another. I've done it, my son has done it and I know a helluva lot of people who have told me they their own experiences.

in some areas I guarantee you that they aren't use to people walking in the woods.

there are enough people on the board that know me well enough to vouch.

Posted on Oct 23, 2012, 2:50 PM

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I have a four camera video system there...

by Monster Hunter

So far nothing of real importance has been captured... I guess I need to add more cameras or hide some game cameras...problem with game cameras I'm not really able to walk into the areas I need to go in at this time...hopefully after the first of the year...

Posted on Oct 23, 2012, 8:07 AM

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exciting

by Cochise

I think this is very interesting to say the least. Imagine having an area to investigate that has so many critters. I come to visit this site everyday hoping to gain more knowledge. Just knowing Monster Hunter has an oppurtunity to see the activity going on has me on the edge of my chair. If I was younger you couldn't keep me away.

Posted on Oct 23, 2012, 8:14 AM

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LOL...at times it is exciting...

by Monster Hunter

But like most areas it can be boring...a real sensitive person would more then likely have problems down there...to many different things going on at times...I go down as often as I can...use to go every week but since the knees no longer want to cooperate I make it every two weeks...it's about a two hour drive depending on how fast I drive so I burn about four hours every time going down...

You would have a good time there...good people, Monsters, a black eyed something and ghosts...It is fun to walk around in areas of activity knowing there is a possibility the Monsters are following you around...maybe snapping a stick or breaking a limb or tree...

Posted on Oct 23, 2012, 11:17 AM

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I've always thought

by RubyRed

"they wuz well organized!" Of course, I have absolutely NO proof! I've never actually seen a monster up close but I went hunting with my father and first hubby, where I shot at birds. I was in the forests enough in past years to know that a monster might have been six feet away from me and I would not have known it. I've seen one tall shadow in a wooded area near Conroe, looked at a "something" move some bushes on private land near Conroe and watched something tall and odd cross Hwy 59N early one morning. BUT I don't claim any proof of those sightings being a BF other than the odd feeling I experienced afterward. So...thinking these animals are organized and very proficient in the woods is based on both my 'feelings' and on the experts, whose posts and photos I've enjoyed over the years. AND, oh, yeah--also on the campfire stories I was privileged to hear first hand.

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You've been out of the military since 1984?

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That's 28 years ago ( "I've been ex-military for 28 years" ). I don't see how that has any bearing on your ability to hunt, slip around the woods, track, etc., especially since it was so long ago. I've been out for 24 years, but I already knew how to do all that prior to being trained by the military. The two have nothing in common.

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Re: Where's the body?

by Big D

Not at all Mr. Murdoch. First off, thank you for your service to our Country. The fact that you served in the military alone gives you credit and earns respect from me. I simply wondered if you were a hunter to try to realize what type of background you have where hunting is concerned. I have been an avid hunter for 35 years. I've seen almost every type of game animal there is to see in the south, but I can't imagine what it must be like to see one of these creatures. I have heard them in very close proximity to me, to the point where I had my hand on my gun and was ready to shoot . . . what exactly I was not sure . . . but I was ready to shoot something. It was worse than any buck fever you could ever imagine. I just think that there is way more to collecting one of these creatures than just putting one in your sights and pulling a trigger. And if you are the hunter that you claim to be, and I have no reason to doubt that you are, I'm sure you understand this.

Respectfully submitted,

Big D

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Respect from me, too.

by RubyRed

Consider your hand shook and me saying, "Thanks" IF I've never given you a big hug MH for Viet Nam, I will the next time I see you. God bless!

Posted on Oct 23, 2012, 4:39 PM

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Out of respect

by Lhofa

Doug, the reason we have not killed one of the animals at Ms. Francis house after she said she doesn't want them hurt is because we are not poachers. You must have mistaken us for some other group. Why don't you just go find your own monster somewhere else and shoot one and show us the carcass and then we will acknowledge you are right. They are not like anything you have ever hunted. If you have never seen one just leave it that way. Quite a few people who did finally see them sincerely wish they never had, so that they could still have the comfort of doubting there really are monsters.

Posted on Oct 23, 2012, 7:18 AM

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Amen to that.

by SAsquatcher

Seeing is knowing, and knowing can be a nightmare and instead of answering questions, just sparking more.

Posted on Oct 24, 2012, 6:39 PM

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Video: what do you think of this one?

by anaconda

Photographer snaps possible Texas Bigfoot:
video KLTV, Longview, TX

http://www.kltv.com/story/19876849/photographer-snaps-possible-texas-bigfoot-shots

Posted on Oct 21, 2012, 11:56 PM

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I know little about the Dallas area but...

by Monster Hunter

I have heard many tales of Monsters in Shelby County...the video, my interpretation...there's something there...but I couldn't definitely say what it is...

Thanks for sending this our way...

Posted on Oct 22, 2012, 7:57 AM

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clear vision, blurry pics

by MikeInNC

My thought is that, almost always, while the picture may be fuzzy......what someone sees with his/her eyes, in "3-D" (two eyes to help create depth - as opposed to a 2-D picture/video) is much clearer.

The photographer sounds legit. The pic/video seems legit (though not conclusive).

I think this may be a legit sighting where the person clearly saw the creater with a pair of eyes, and the picture/vid cannot provide enough clarity, detail, definition, proper contrast/light/color.

My .02 cents.

-Mike

Posted on Oct 22, 2012, 11:28 AM

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survivorman

by DonDon

Watching his Sierra.Nevada show where.he said he had a strange.encounter n didnt realize he was in willow creek. He just said thats where he was

Posted on Oct 20, 2012, 3:57 PM

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Here is the Les Stroud interview.

by SAsquatcher

Posted on Oct 21, 2012, 9:30 AM

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Another one, a little more in depth.

by SAsquatcher

Posted on Oct 21, 2012, 9:43 AM

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Interesting...n/t

by Monster Hunter

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get together this year in ms?

by SasquatchMs

we doing that again here? somewheres ? anyone?

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I wanna do something but

by DonDom

Weve got to get the house sold n in a new one. Almost.finished repairs. I sanded the hardwood floors last nught n all iack in new carpet n a couple touchups n its ready. May try to habe a get.togethef after deer seadon is over with. Give em a chance to get back to their non hunting season habits. Maybe march or april.

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i am up for a outting

by Swampbilly

I am up for a good outting if anyone is putting something toghter here in MS.

Posted on Oct 21, 2012, 1:49 PM

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I wish I had time this fall to host a get together but I don't

by DonDon

It's bow season already anyhow here in Miss. Sometime this spring, I'll host something in an active area where we can go sit out. My wife and I love camping and I'll pick an area with water and power hookups where we can atleast be comfortable

Posted on Oct 23, 2012, 7:31 AM

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Jay put something up

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on Facebook to see if he could get some interest in having some kind of regular get together here in MS.

Or, anyone interested can just page him here or email him, lol.

Posted on Oct 22, 2012, 4:19 PM

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He and I used to have them every year

by DonDon

and at one point a couple times a year. We both got busy and missed a year or two

Posted on Oct 23, 2012, 12:45 PM

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The fence and an anomaly within the anomaly

by Circlewalker

I have previously stated that my observations have led me to believe that a female and a few juveniles stay in the area I call the first clearing while a small group of males stay in an area across the creek.

I will point out some things that suggest this notion. I also welcome any ideas or thoughts that develop or elaborate on this discussion even if it negates ideas I put forth.

I went back to the area in September. The reason I went during that specific time frame is because of a picture I took on June 25th 2011 and because of a comment made by a retired forest ranger in an interview about BF.

The picture I took may have a female with a newborn. If the picture does show that then we can extrapolate impregnation around September/October assuming a gestation period of about 8-9 months (Gorillas 8.5 months, chimpanzees 8 months approximately). The retired US Forest Ranger made a comment to the effect that the US Forest Service knew about the existence of bigfoot and actually knew quite a bit about them. He further stated that they rut in September/October.

Rutting in September/October would make sense from a survival standpoint since the female would be carrying throughout the coldest winter months and giving birth sometime in late May early June.

The picture I took on June 25th 2011 is one I have already posted and I do not want to beat that picture to death. However, some of the things in the picture simply do not make sense so I am going to repost and point out some but not all of the anomalies.

This is the picture:

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I am going to sound crazy but I am putting forth the idea that the picture indicates two babies clinging to the female. There is a possibility that there is a newborn in the front and another possibly clinging to the back. A baby clinging to the back is not uncommon and happens frequently with various apes as this picture indicates:

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Zooming in on the picture I took on June 25th 2011 indicates some things that may indicate something clinging to the back of the female.

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This picture shows facial orientation and possible baby in the front. It also shows the anomaly just over the shoulder and another anomaly on the head (which I am suggesting is a hand):

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This is the blowup wth no mark up:

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The reason I point out these anomalies is because of the fence. In September I found a fence in the first clearing I previously did not know was there. There is fencing crisscrossing the whole area on both sides of the creek. In some instances where I believe theses things traffic through the metal fence post has been bent in half and in other areas the barb wire strands have just been ripped out:
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The fence had two sticks holding the fence down. However, the fence did not need to be held down for anything other than something child-sized. In fact, I could have straddled the fence even at full height:

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On June 30th 2012 I made a trip to this area.All of the wood knocking, metal knocking and rock clacking I have put on this forum came from this area.

On the way back out on June 30th I saw a shadow by a bush and before I could blink it shot back into the bushes. I moved around trying to get position around the bush to see if I could get position and perhaps see it hiding. As I moved around I began to hear screams coming from the area. I believe the screams to be from the female which does not sound like the vocalizations I have heard from across the creek. I also believe it was screaming because I was moving around where one of the older juveniles was hiding:

http://soundcloud.com/circlewalker/leaving-the-area2a

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One of the things that has had me puzzled about the encounter on June 25th 2011 is that I have not been able to figure out how these things could have crossed the creek without me hearing them. I waded acrss the creek and the water was waist high and well over 20 feet with high banks on both sides at the smallest crossing area. I now believe that they did not cross and that there were two groups, one on each side of the creek.

When my two sons and I crossed the creek to the tree formations we had a chorus of vocalizations that sounded very close to the vocalization I recorded the following year on June 30th 2012 except it was closer, louder and there were three or more instead of one. This is the picture on June 25th 2011:

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and the vocalization I recorded on June 30th 2012:
http://soundcloud.com/circlewalker/vocalization-iia
Again, I have only heard this on the other side of the creek.

C

Posted on Oct 20, 2012, 10:51 AM

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Excellent and with pictures...

by Monster Hunter

Something to remember...most are picture blind...if the subject is not standing in a wide open mowed field quite a few will not see what you are talking about...most hunters, good hunters, will see some items presented...may not be what you see but their interpretation of the pictures will be similar...

BTW...I had an area where the females remained across the creek in a cut over away from the male Monsters...to get to one of the food plots there were two logs...one west and one south they crossed to get to the plot...tracked them many times...at times when I would go in to feed I would hear them announcing my presence...pretty damn neat...that area is now a large pipe line...

Posted on Oct 20, 2012, 2:11 PM

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Thanks Monster Hunter...

by Circlewalker

Just as an aside I wanted to see if She-Wolf was correct and the female did go off with the male. The results were inconclusive but I do think the metal knocks gave away the position on the hill and that had not happened before. (Meaning I do not think the female was in the first clearing when I was there in September. I believe if anything was there it was the juveniles.

I also was looking for additional sign that might indicate maybe an alpha was fighting for the female and I did find something strange that I will put here. Just as some background this area has only had a trace of rain from June until the end of September. The place is in a major drought.

This is the picture I took on June 30th 2012 the tree is outlined in red:

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This is a close up of the same tree. The breakage was fresh:

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The top of the tree was nowhere to be found. However there were these strange gouges on a couple of the trees

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Obviously the tree didn't break itself

C

Posted on Oct 20, 2012, 6:36 PM

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I guess it could be weather related...

by Monster Hunter

we've had some strong winds here but what I find is the tree usually breaks at a knot in the tree...it appears yours didn't...personally I don't think the female goes off with the male...I think when the alpha male is in town the younger males leave the area...

Posted on Oct 23, 2012, 12:09 PM

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That may be so...

by Circlewalker

It may very well be weather related but the top of that tree would be somewhere close by and I couldn't find it. The tree was there in June and gone in September with no rain except a trace in almost 2 months. I also didn't see any other damage other than what was noted.

I have found a couple of other instances of large tree damage and it just doesn't make sense to explain some of it as weather related IMHO...

The picture below is the broken trunk end of a tree that was placed into this dead tree. Please note the lack of trees close enough in the background...Both of us couldn't have lifted that thing into position.

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If something is doing these things I am actually pretty fearful to come across it and it would definitely fit the definition of "monster".

C

Posted on Oct 23, 2012, 6:24 PM

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Personally I haven't seen or noticed any large limbs...

by Monster Hunter

stuck up higher in a larger tree...but somewhere in Canada there are some old trees that are stuck in the ground upside down...so IMO I do think this is possible...take a big Monster to do it but possible...

Just thinking...how big would a Monster have to be to do this?...and where could it possibly go to not be seen?...I have a hard time believing a creature 7 to 9 ft. tall and weighing approximately 500 pounds and up could successfully stay hidden without some hunter, hiker or camper not seeing them...not just your place of interest but any where...I can understand a skeptics view...no body, no bones, no accurate DNA just eye witness and pictures for proof...eye witnesses can easily be fooled especially those with BF on the brain...most pictures can be hoaxed...but I do know and trust those I'm closely associated with...they've seen Monsters more then several times and know the difference in a Monster and a bear...

Thanks again for sharing...

Posted on Oct 24, 2012, 11:57 AM

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Really?

by Timberghost

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Posted on Oct 19, 2012, 7:50 PM

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Man

by Crispy

OK has changed sine I was there last......see what happens when you let Don run around nekked in them woods!

Posted on Oct 20, 2012, 9:03 AM

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If that's what you get for being on a TV series...

by Monster Hunter

I'll pass...that's sickening to look at...

Posted on Oct 20, 2012, 2:13 PM

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That is soooo wrong,,,

by SAsquatcher

And on soooo many different levels,,lol.

Posted on Oct 20, 2012, 3:57 PM

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Yeah..

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...like from the ground level up!

Posted on Oct 22, 2012, 4:05 PM

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ok thats just nasty

by DonDon

I got. Supper cooking n now i canr eat.ewwww . Is that Craig laying on Matts tummy? Lmbo

Posted on Oct 20, 2012, 4:00 PM

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I don't know dude.

by SAsquatcher

From what I am seeing, they may try to recruit you,,lol.
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Posted on Oct 21, 2012, 10:02 AM

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The guy who did the artwork is

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Rictor Riolo. He has done a lot of artwork for some of the Facebook Bigfoot group "Team Tazer Bigfoot", and he hosts a radio show with Sharon Lee called the Bigfoot Field Reporter, which she used to do solo until hooking up with him (not literally, because, if you haven't guessed by the picture that Timberghost posted, Rictor isn't really attracted to girls, women, or females of any kind). He creates a new work of art as a poster ad for the upcoming "BF Field Report" radio show every week, with a drawing of himself, Sharon, and whoever will be on the show, usually in a comic book style, such as the drawing above, but in color.

Posted on Oct 22, 2012, 4:11 PM

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here its the actual article

by wookieehunter

Montana Man Killed During Bigfoot HoaxKatie KindelanAugust 28, 2012A Montana man dressed in a Bigfoot costume in an apparent attempt to provoke reports of sightings of the mythical creature was killed when he was struck by two cars on a highway.Randy Lee Tenley, 44, of Kalispell, in Northwest Montana, was standing in the right-hand lane of U.S. Highway 93 Sunday night when he was struck by a car, the Montana Highway Patrol said. A second car then hit him again as he lay in the road, authorities said.READ MORE: Bigfoot or Big Joke: You Decide"He had this Ghillie suit and was going to attempt to get the attention of passing motorist and, through I don't know what means, make them feel like they saw Bigfoot or sasquatch," Montana Highway Patrol Officer Jim Schneider told ABC affiliate KTMF.Schneider told the local newspaper the Daily Inter Lake that authorities determined Tenley's motive, posing as Bigfoot, after interviewing the man's friends. Alcohol "may have been a factor," in the incident, according to Schneider.READ MORE: Bigfoot Spotted in Idaho?The military-style "Ghillie" suit worn by Tenley was a full-body suit made of strips of camouflage fabric, making it difficult for drivers to spot him. The suit is typically used by military members to camouflage snipers in combat.The two vehicles that struck Tenley were driven by teenage girls, one age 15 and one age 17, police said.Bigfoot and Sasquatch are names given to mysterious, mythical ape-like creatures that some people believe inhabit forests. The theory is largely discounted by scientists but the legend has persisted, even giving rise to its own TV show, "Finding Bigfoot," on the Animal Planet.In May, a group of high school students said they may have came come close to Bigfoot during a class project in the Idaho wilderness. A 38-second YouTube video shot in April in the Grand River area of Northeast Ohio claims to show a large, dark and hairy creature running across a path in the woods that many have proposed could be Bigfoot.The Associated Press contributed to this report.

Posted on Oct 19, 2012, 4:23 PM

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Hard to believe then maybe not...

by Monster Hunter

it seems people get crazier every day...

Posted on Oct 20, 2012, 5:23 PM

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reason number one why you should never pretend to be a bigfoot

by wookieehunter

http://abcnews.go.com/m/blogEntry?id=17095094

Posted on Oct 19, 2012, 4:21 PM

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Minimum Viable Population

by Circlewalker

This is a good read concerning minimum viable population over various time frames. It has direct implications for a location, for example, like Ms Francis has where high numbers of monsters inhabit an area.

It gives an idea about the minimum numbers needed to populate and sustain an area.

C

http://www.eoearth.org/article/Minimum_viable_population_size?topic=58074

Posted on Oct 19, 2012, 4:09 PM

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This paragraph sums it up IMO...

by Monster Hunter

"Conservation practitioners are commonly faced with a lack of resources, limited scientific knowledge on the system under management, and sometimes operate within a hostile socio-political environment. Oftentimes biologists require general MVP targets for species conservation but do not have the time, skills or resources to run viability analyses. MVP targets are used to allocate scarce resources toward the maintenance of populations, and for the derivation of minimum species habitat requirements, which may then be used as a demographic and genetic justification for reserve design or preservation, and the possible creation of corridors or trans-boundary national parks. The recommendations that biologists make, based on broad MVP targets, are usually serious, with legal and financial consequences. Where data and resources are scarce, MVP ranges may be cautiously used"

The MVP is nothing more then a wild axxed estimate...there is not any way we could use anything more or less then the MVP since we know little to nothing about the subject we search for...theory, what little evidence we have gathered that has been submitted may or may not be accurate...therefore all we have is a wild axxed guess with a bit of evidence, just enough, to validate some of our theories...

MY theory...hunt them long enough and you'll discover after twenty years...you know little and what you think you knew can and more then likely will be changed over night...Think about this...what known animal on earth, something many of us have personally seen, can we not successfully hunt?...I can only think of one...

Posted on Oct 20, 2012, 2:29 PM

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I think you are right Monster Hunter...

by Circlewalker

I was just looking at it from a slightly different perspective.

If There were confirmed visuals (pictures) of monsters and the physical evidence shows multiple deformity (multiple three toed tracks, the crippled one you have pictures of, the one that you described as looking like downs syndrom,and or the one with the long neck, for example)

it might point to a smaller population (If the estimates in the reading are reliable) of well under 50 in the area and 6 or less breeding pairs with inbreeding possibly causing the deformities.

Something else that plays into this is the time frame. If the area has a history of sightings going back 4 or more decades with little or no evidence of deformity it may have a higher population of 100 or more through-out a given region.

I was trying to think through how we could look at the little evidence we get and possibly make minimum population size estimates of a given area.

Just something to give some thought to.

C

Posted on Oct 20, 2012, 4:18 PM

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what??

by shirley

will sombody explain all this to me the viable population?? ok its above my head lol !!!

Posted on Oct 21, 2012, 4:58 PM

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I will try... Ms. Shirley

by Circlewalker

A minimum viable population (MVP) size is an estimate of the number of individuals ( in this case monsters) required for a high probability of survival of a population over a given period of time.

Time periods are typically limited due to species type (which is unknown in this case), but it is usually 20, 50, 100 and 100+ years

Things that may limit a population of animals(of whatever species) include:
Inbreeding;

natural catastrophes (tornadoes, blizzards, earthquakes volcanoes, floods, fire drought etc.) that may decrease a population of animals

Effects to the environment (building, farming etc)

Other factors (natural fluctuations caused by natural survival rates, and population density (too many animals on a given piece of land)

All factors (usually but sometimes by themselves to) work together to impact survival or extinction of a species.

Sometimes studies have shown the persistence of (sometimes small) populations over periods of 50, 75 and 100 years

There is a rule (of thumb)of 50/ 500 meaning that a minimum of 50 animals must be present with a minimum of 6 breeding pairs to allow a species to survive in the short term.

There is a rule (of thumb) of 500 animals needed for survival of 100 years or more in order to have enough genetic variation to survive and thrive in the long term.

However, Monster Hunter is correct in saying that there is not enough information:

"There are no robust rules of thumb for estimating MVP sizes for species lacking population models or other detailed information on their demography or changes in abundance over time;"

In other words for an unknown species... no one has solid answers about population rates and or size.

C

Posted on Oct 21, 2012, 7:47 PM