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The family & I just returned from that area, playing on the beach & gator ranch & such. Many reports from this area? I was impressed by the thickness of the swampy areas.
We're going down thanksgiving for a few days to Biloxi and gonna do a little investigating while we're there. Here's a listing of the counties and number of reports in the database alone. Just remember that a very small ammount of encounters actually get reported.
Jackson - 0
Harrison - 7
Hancock - 1
George - 0
Stone - 5
Perry - 1
Forrest - 6
Greene - 1
Those are just the bottom 3 rows of counties across the coast.
As always I take everything w/ a grain of salt. However, the implications of the claims if proven true, this could turn the theory of modern man on its back and re-write what we know about mankind. Of all the BF theories this is kinda my favorite as I like things that challenge the status quo, but not in a conspiracy way, just a regular "rewrite" if we could ever allows ourselves as a species/society to accept the truth.
fun stuff..I also hope to have a gen 3 NV device within a few months
If I were you I'd take a look at these instead of Gen 3;
IMO FLIR is the way to go when in the woods either day or night, many of our researchers have found Gen 3 is great but has many disadvantages.
Also for those of you using Gen 2+ scopes I've found my green headlamp I wear greatly improves the viewing of gen 2 scopes and doesn't screw up night vision, I've also found it shows/reflects eye shine better and doesn't disturb the critters, until I can afford one of those new FLIR scopes the green headlamps make the gen 2+ usable much farther than the scope alone.
There ya go,,,,by SAsquatcher
Good price for them too.
I agree 100%, thermal is the way to go, Gen 3 requires IR emitters which I truly believe the monsters can see, but thermal just sees heat.
That is on my wish list as well.
not some gen 3's depends on the tube design, terminology is "omni" early gen 3's they went back and forth on designs and whatnot, wether or not they were autogated, filmed , or filmless,or thin filmed. the Pvs14 in the video is an OMNI V+ design, the current highest end a person can buy is an OMNI VII I believe, they have a manual gain control which allows the light transmission to the eye to be increased or deceased. Now the hot deal are the PVS14's w/ MX10160C tubes w/ a Signal to Noise ratio of usually higher than 29(most over 30) and the resolution is the highest to date other than the experimental Gen 4 tubes that the military passed on due to being unreliable.
Anyways heres the manufact of the Gen 3's that run the OMNI VII's Ill be attempting to purchase, and what wonderful is that they do not need additional IR lights to be super effective examples are located here:
scroll down to the clearest picture of the forest's labels will be on the types of tubes available to the public and those images are W/O IR ILLUMINATION!. And here is a link to a device that has the capabilites (mind of course I'd be opting for the "hand select" tube to get the highest resolution and S/N Ratio :
Are still dependent on available light and will NOT penetrate thick brush in total darkness with no moon, many of our hunters have had the best Gen 3 untra's out there and now know FLIR is the way to go, it can also be used day or night to show heat signatures..... if it was my money it'd go with FLIR for research. But then I've seen the difference between the two at night in almost total darkness with no moon.....
You're right Bob,,by SAsquatcher
FLIR doesn't depend on light at all but heat.
Wherever there is a heat or cold source, there is an image.
I remember when I was checking out Tommy's FLIR,I stood in one spot for a few minutes and backed up a few steps and looked down with the unit and could see my ghostly footprint glow where my heat off my feet had transferred into the ground.
Along that principle as well you can see where an animal has bedded down recently if you happen to jump one up as well.
I sure hated to get rid of mine BUT I think in the long run, I'll be better off. They were ambiant light dependant and you couldn't see into the brush.
I never turned my IR on when using them though cause I know the creatures can see it, so they may not be as effective as they could be.
I found out first hand how bright that IR is. Can't remember who all was with me and Nessa but I know Bob was, think Darrell was with us as well. We'd been sitting out and with the strong winds blowing the tree tops, we couldn't hear a thing so we decided to pack it in.
On the way back, I was leading the group back since I had my gen 3's on my head and we wanted to ease back in darkness. Well, we round a bend in the road and I saw what I thought were car headlights through my gen 3's. I took them off and HEY, there isn't a light. Put them back on and there they are again. Turns out that Sam (Bittermonk) and his wife we sitting out and had a IR recorder going. Through the gen 3's, the IR light looks like a cars headlights. Learned alot about IR that night.
My next purchase will be thermals. Word to the wise, instead of buying what you can afford today, wait a few months and get with you want or you'll be buying, selling and buying again. It'll cost you more money in the long run.
Don't forget Re-Bait.......by Grumpy
Aka; Rachel, she was tagging along that night.
Girls a tough cookie
Ater that night and trip I was so impressed with the Gen 3 night vision, I purchased and mounted a Gen 2+ scope on a AR15 for night time varmints.
A friend of mine bought a thermal monocular last week. We went out and set up on a bluff over looking a clearing with a tree lined creek as the background. Called up a yote I could see it plain as day in the clearing and lost it in the tree line brush, my friend was able to follow it with the thermal inside the tree line and told me the yote was coming back out about 15 yards to my left from where it entered the trees and sure enough it did, said he only lost its heat signature for about 5 seconds in the trees. I never saw it at all when it entered the trees.
My next purchase will be thermal it out performed the IR night vision, although the night vision worked as it was designed to work, but they do have limits.
And since most of our work at night is up close and personal FLIR gives us the ability to locate and somewhat identify, then move within the range that small high intensity weapons mounted lights are all that's needed for ID and illumination. Also IMO the range we work within at night makes the usual hunting scopes useless unless they are low power or the new reflex image dot systems.
This is what we were using,
And distance was difficult to tell since it signatures everything not much depth dimension on the screen. When the subject was within 15-20 yards you could tell exactly what it was.
The man did a perfectly edge to edge comparison study on both pieces and presented his results.
Let's see more of this in BFR generally.
My original thoughts were to buy the upgraded scope, the first one in the post, since it used AA batteries rather than an installed rechargeable, witch I hate, But got to checking and the basic unit can have it's life extended in the field by using a field battery charger to recharge it, they are fairly cheap and light weight if needed. The $1000 less for the cheaper unit, which is the same unit other than batteries and temp operating range, makes this affordable, and I have talked with and know someone who has one and states it does work as advertised...... Now if work would only pick up again so I can start saving my pennies.
It can only get better.
Just two years ago the lowest price found on FLIR was around $12000.00 and now $1900.00. Maybe by next year, if we are not fighting each other for food and shelter, we might find some for under $1000. Only problem is, old Vets like Jim and I are getting older faster than the prices drop.....I hope they start making an all-terrain Hoveround........
God bless , bro...Me and Jim have talk in lenght about the days of old when we wore green.
I missed Nam by a few years, but it was ok as MH was over there kickin butt for me.
Fort Benning 1980 A71 and then I went to Germany with Bco 1st Bn 3rd INF Div...the Audie Murphy Company. Got my EIB in 81.
The cold war....lol...You never forget the sound of a bullet whizzing by your ear knowing it was meant for your head.
Keep rockin , bro
Can you get a flir rifle scope? Russian wouldn'r be as nice as flir, but I expect it would be functional. If Bought something like that, I would really like it rifle mountable.
Cindy, one problem with flir is depth of field or distance, the flir units I've looked through give you no distance judgement, IMO flir should not be used for firearms but rather for locating temperature changes within an area day or night, plus carrying a weapon around during non hunting season(s) is not advised unless on private property, especially a high powered firearm, fish and wildlife officers can and probably will confiscate your weapons, vehicle and anything else they can. I'm sure the Military has combo night vision/flir scopes but nothing available to the general public. Also most flir units are not in scope shape but more like cameras or small/medium hand held units with screens.
but also has it's disadvantages.
It's basically a light amplifier, using the existing night time star light.
1) As said above, distance is hard to judge.
2) Wearing it too long gives you a "Sand in the eyes" feeling.
3) Everything is green and black.
Once again, as said above, FLIR gives you a heads up that something doesn't belong there and IMO is the best tool to use in BFR.
But no one believes they exist, either.
Not really Jimbo.by SAsquatcher
Being that Zombies are dead, they don't give off heat!
Think about it.
I checked on the pond after we got a little rain to see if it gathered any water. I ran across two impressions which I believe to be both left and right foot impressions. Two were all I found and it looked like it came down a wash close to the pond and went back the same way... Just guessing but estimate them at around fourteen inches long but slim at around five inches wide...
Very COOL!by SAsquatcher
Thanks for sharing Michael.
Do you think that maybe when you only find 2 tracks like that, that maybe the animal came in quadrupedal and took a couple of steps bipedally or is the ground just too hard away from the pond to get a good track?
Do you think it came for a drink or...by Monster Hunter
just nosey checking the pond out since you had the pond dug out?...
It just came to snoop around. Maybe to see if it had water yet? Looked like it just stopped at the rim and didn't go on down because it's softer down by the little water that is there and I saw nothing. I think I only found two because it probably came in 4x4 and stood upright at the rim of the pond. Plus when it left it went out in a wash where most of the water comes in..
Dang nosey critters. LOL
You know I'm wondering whether the extreme drought has scattered these animals to any extent, or has it brought them closer together crossing territories where water is found?
Good question...by Monster Hunter
Several areas I know there are Monsters the nearest water I know of is several miles away...of course there could be a spring or pond I'm not aware of...we've had some rain but it's still extremely dry...
Just walked in the door a few minutes ago...by Monster Hunter
I talked to a man who had pictures of eyes...large eyes about, depending on distance from the camera, eight to nine inches apart...smaller set about six inches apart...not huge but a reddish tint watching deer eating at his food plot...where these eyes were "standing" is in his estimate a drop off of six to seven feet...looked Monster to me not because of the size of eyes but the distance between them...yes I did see his photos caught on a game camera...
Man has heard the bionic bird early AM going to the stand...bow season has been open here for several weeks...one night walking out he had something shadow him almost to his truck...he would stop and it would stop...spooked him pretty good so he walked backwards to his truck down a sandy road...this area is less then 2 miles from where we have Monster pictures...
Crying baby...by Monster Hunter
A couple sitting on the back porch of one of my contacts reported hearing a crying baby coming from the pine thicket...a lady that deer hunted with us at MC also claimed she would hear a crying baby but not any of the men hunters have heard this...
Do you remember her saying rather or not it was that particular time of month or not or did the conversation go in that direction?
I know that is a touchy subject with some and not really the sort of thing that you just blurt out and ask somebody, but in the interest of an investigation it should probably be.
No she wasn't...
and have a weird version of it recorded...
If I remember he crawled down from the stand that over looked a clear cut...from the stand you could see the complete section cut...he walked down the south side dim road towards the creek when something screamed at him from this clear cut...the area he was in he said he could see a cross this cut and couldn't understand how something could scream at him and not see it...
If you want maybe you can share that weird cry for us on the forum...if not...you know I understand...
He wanted some recordings to put on the multimedia page so I sent him several.
All of that along with the revised page to Bobby.
When he will make the changes I do not know, I know that he's a busy man!
I will send,,,by SAsquatcher
You what I sent to Bobby, Jim.
One of those years back Jim put myself and Ken G. down that dead end lane just east of the iron bridge. Maybe 45 minutes after dark we hear a horse, which Jim had already told us that no horses were anywhere close, and we may hear one, then, what I described as a rabbit cry, which I can see some folks could say a baby cry, sounded twice, loudly and very clear. We didn't know how far or how close, I think probably between us and the iron bridge, maybe on that north side of that little creek! A few minutes later is when one came from the pine thicket making tracks coming up behind us heading right towards the creek and where the horse and baby cry were coming from earlier. We were set up perfectly right between a possible bedding area and those calls...when we turned to face it...it shut down completely, not to move again. It was pitch black down that lane. No star light or nothing. We gave it another hour at least, wondering who was gonna move first! It won! We moved after a while and headed back to camp. We shined the area but that pine thicket was just too darn thick! Exciting!
that since these critters DO bear live children that it would not be uncommon to hear babies crying supposing that they carry their young with the group. Right?
not crying. Bet that'd set the hairs on the back of your neck straight out
The Minnesota Ice Man.by SAsquatcher
Check this out.
I was able to view the Ice Man when it was on display at the State Fair in Oklahoma City around 1968 or 69. Standing there and looking down into the block of ice was an experience I will never forget. The details of the body such as hairs, skin coloration, and facial features convinced me that the body had been a living animal at one time.
that actually saw it. Wonder what freezer it's in right now?
I wonder what ever happened to,,,,,,by SAsquatcher
For those of you who have never heard of him, here is a link on Bobbie Shorts website.
I've always wondered...by Monster Hunter
Is this story complete BS or did these men actually capture a live adolescent Monster?...
Read and at lost for words for the present time. What are the thoughts of you all?
Received this via email...by Monster Hunter
It is a bit lengthy but may be worth your time to read and by all means comment on...
My Story - How I arrived at this Current Juncture Today:
Are We (You and I) Biased?
How many of you guys would describe yourselves as being unbiased? Well, if you answered yes, that you think that you are unbiased, I would tell you that I would tend to disagree with you. But you might ask, how I can say that, when I might not even know you? Well, I believe that most of us are biased, in our world views and in any and all dogma that we hold near and dear to our hearts. The question really shouldnt be are we biased, but rather if our particular biases are the correct or true biases. In other words do the things that make up our belief systems consist of truth, or fallacies? And maybe more importantly, if undisputable evidence is presented to us, what do we do with that information? Are we open or close-minded to new information? Are we willing to change our bias on various view points, if the evidence dictates change, or are we the type that will not change our viewpoints (we are dogmatic) no matter what evidence is presented to us under the guise and title of being a so-called skeptic? Are you one that is willing to step outside of the proverbial box, or are you one that will die living inside the box (the things that you were taught (from K through college)) of academia land?
Have You ever Heard or Seen?
Have you ever attempted to make a simple plaster of Paris casting of a BF print on a environmentally perfect day, only to come back a couple of hours later to collect your casting and find that it never set up that it was still mushy? And when you attempted to dig it up later, it broke apart into a million pieces?
Have you ever wondered why you cant seem to get any picks Bigfoot on your trail cameras, even though you have baited the area and something has taken the bait? Hmmm, why didnt the creature that took the bait show up on the trail camera? I wonder why?
Do you know of any BF researchers that have attempted to record possible BF vocals, only to review the audio clip later and find that the vocals on the actual recording seemed muffled or were completely muted out on the clip, even though your heard the vocals as clear as day with your own ears or with a headset? Your voice on the recording might have come in loud and clear, but the supposed background BF vocals were nowhere to be found.
Have you ever been trying to record possible BF vocals and all of sudden you heard extremely loud bug chatter sounds right in front of your recording device?
Have you ever been trying to record possible BF vocals and all of sudden you heard highway (cars and trucks or motorcycle) sounds right in front of your recording device? Then you where those sounds came from?
Have you ever experienced completely blank recordings on your digital recorder, even though you know that the record button was turned on while attempting to record sounds? Have you ever heard digital distortions or popping sounds (pop, pop, pop) on your recordings, for no apparent reason when you were in BF country? Have you ever experienced digitally distorted, corrupted or blank files? Have you ever tried to open up one of your files only to get an error message stating something like: cannot read that file format, or unrecognized file format? If not buy a parabolic dish and a digital recorder and start recording sounds in bigfoot country at nighttime.
Have you ever experienced unknown battery drains on your electronic equipment, especially your digital recorders, even during environmentally perfect warn summer nights? Batteries that normally would last hours, are dying in your equipment after 10 or 15 minutes? And then you replace those drained batteries with fresh batteries only to have them die on you 10 or 15 minutes later again?
Do you often see unusually acting craft flying over the skies of your BF hotspot areas?
Have you ever noticed craft with jet engine sounds (real or otherwise) flying directly over your stakeout areas, making tons of noise which has the affect of drowning out the supposed BF vocals that you are attempting to record?
Do you see craft from time to time, that seem to have very unusual landing lights (headlights) that have the ability to rotate and blink (conventional craft dont come equipped with these) and change intensities from super intense (what I call Ball Lightning mode) to barely visible?
Do these same craft seem to be flying in the fields and just over the tree lines, travelling at extremely slow speeds, in all different directions, as if they were searching for something? Do you often see these craft silently moving across the sky, then hover in place, followed by a change of direction before flying off?
Have you ever seen a couple of these crafts sitting motionless in the sky performing what appears to be light data transfer via their blinking landing lights?
Have you noticed that often times when these craft are moving just above the tree line with their landing lights blazing away (Ball Lightning mode), that they dim or shut off their landing lights and turn their red and blue/green anti-collision lights on (what I call Airplane others call Blinkie mode) and fly away, as soon as you stare at that or especially when you point a camera at them?
Have you even seen these same craft drop down from the sky like a rock or shoot into the area like a blue falling star, just before they begin their search patrols? Do you notice that within these BF hotspots that night after night after night you see these blue shooting stars (pseudo stars) darting through the skies, many times in ways or directions that go against the laws of natural physics?
Have you ever gotten into your vehicle a drove on the back country roads around these craft at speeds of between 25 and 45 miles per hour, and discovered that you had circled around the craft and it was still in the middle of the woods? In other words the craft was moving much slower than the 25 to 45 miles per speed that you were traveling and yet it didnt fall from the sky!
Have you ever seen these same craft (8-15 foot long triangular, manta ray-like or diamond shaped (manned/unmanned?)) that I refer to as Dragonflies, seemingly pivot in place, while hovering in the skies?
Have you ever put a telescope on one of these crafts (hint, hint) while they are in their Airplane mode?
Have you ever seen these craft seemingly hovering or slowly flying over some high voltage power lines, seemingly skimming the voltage right out of the lines?
Have you ever seen, or recorded on videos (like I have) a boomerang-like craft or a B2 Stealth Bomber (I call them Patrol Planes silently hovering or flying slowly over the tree line in these BF hotspots areas?
Do you believe (like I do) that there are a lot more than 20 of these B2 Stealth Bomber planes in production?
Have you ever seen (like I have) red or white lights (like flashlights) floating around in the forest as if disassociated with everything else around them?
Have you ever seen (like I have) basketball to beach ball size yellow/orange or green plasma-like fire balls tumble down from the sky and extinguish just before making contact with ground?
Have you ever been in the midst of a stake out in BF country and noticed that the sky in front of you was getting brighter and brighter as if the sky was somehow being artificially illuminated? Have you also noticed this artificially illuminated sky begin to move? I wonder if it was moving as the BF creatures move?
Have you noticed from time to time, especially within these artificially illuminated skies that there will occasional white light flashes, even though there are no thunderstorms anywhere in the area? Hmmm, could these white light flashes have anything to do with controlling the movement of the BF creatures?
Have you ever seen (like I have) pulse jet con trails over the skies of BF country?
Have you ever seen craft ejecting chem. trails across the skies that soon encompass the entire area in a milky fog?
Have you ever seen, videotaped or walked through (like I have) large areas of forest at night that take on a plasma-like milky white or milky pink/orange hue color? Have you ever walked through one of these ionized fogs and felt as though you were in the middle of the Twilight Zone?
Have you ever seen stars (especially as the star approaches or retreats from the horizon) up in the sky, that appear to be pseudo or false stars, because of their enormous size, brightness, colors and wobble?
Have you ever heard loud and fast jet engine sounds that are coming from a plane that is travelling near or over you at low altitudes and at speeds no more than 50 mph?
If your answer is yes to any or many of the above questions that please continue to read on!
A Little bit about My Background:
My main career was in Electronics. Subsequent to that I was a professional Horticulturist for several years, specializing in subtropical plants for temperate climates. I have been a codefinder/codebreaker for most of my adult life. I am an amateur meteorologist, geologist and gemstone collector. And I have been seriously dabbling in Cryptozoology and Ufology for the last several years. I live in Spotsylvania county, near Fredericksburg in central Virginia.
Four Years and Thousands of Hours of Bigfoot Hunting:
My claim to fame (unless proven otherwise) is that I have put in more Bigfoot (BF) investigating hours than any other BF investigator, even though I did it all over a 4-year period of time. You might be asking how in the world that I could claim more BF hunting hours than anyone else if I had only been doing this stuff for 4 years? Well, I am semi-retired and have spent an enormous amount of time (I also keep a detailed journal in a Word document) out in the field during this period, especially over the last two years. And I basically dedicated the last year of my life exclusively to this work on the 4th year, averaging somewhere in the neighborhood of 8 hours per night on about 250 nights of the 356 day year! So in effect, I have done all of my work in 4 years vice the 20 or 30 or more years like others.
Have I been able to See any of the BF Creatures and What have I Learned?
I actually managed to see 5 of the creatures over the 4-year period of time and I viewed all but one of the creatures during daytime hours. I have learned how to walk through the forests over a 5-county area around my home and find the BF tree formations, downed trees and bleat markings (trace evidence). I would follow this trace evidence to areas that were jam-packed full of trace evidence. I refer to these areas as true Bigfoot Hotspots. These BF hotspots usually encompass about a 5 to 10 acre area of real estate. I liken these hotspots to BF playgrounds, because the creatures seem to visit these hotspots several times a week, if not daily, for most of the year, climbing, hanging and swinging from trees and knocking them down. I currently know the locations of 6 of these BF hotspots. Next, I would do all night stakeouts hidden within these hotspots, until the creatures would arrive for me to collect my audio clips of their vocals.
Is there More than What Meets the Eye or Ear?
I made a lot of mistakes in the early months and early years of those 4 years trying to discover these BF hotspots and figure out how and when they were visited, but I was constantly learning things during this process as well. As a result of these observations, some strange things began to happen to me that werent BF related. I was beginning to see and hear things that didnt quite make sense! I began to see lights and phenomenon in the skies and I began to hear sounds through my headset that were not from the creatures. Being the logical, analytical type of guy that I am (ha, ha I dont know if that is good or bad), I tried to figure out and rationally reason through, and process the things that I was hearing and seeing within these BF hotspots, but I couldn't do it ...I just couldn't reason this stuff out through the use of conventional knowledge and wisdom!
Well, this continued to happen night after night, while I was recording with my video and audio gear. But I wasn't just collecting audio clips of the creatures; I was also collecting audio and video clips of the alien technology crafts that were flying over the skies above the creatures! And I was picking up tons of audio clips that were being beamed down from invisible craft (the Low Frequency Hum (LFH) UFO) that was right above my head. I also have many LFH UFO audio clip recordings in my collection. I can and will prove all of my claims in time, in future emails! I just wanted to whet your appetite at this time.
Why do I call these Craft UFOs and What is Their Mission?
What are the UFOs? Are they alien crafts with little green men in them? I am not prepared to say that, nor does one even have to necessarily believe in the existence of aliens to call these craft UFOs. When I call the craft UFOs, I am simply using the standard definition - Unidentified Flying Objects. In other words, conventional or unconventional craft performing unconventional (anti-gravity and light and sound cloaking abilities, etc) maneuvers. Well talk a lot more about this alien-like technology in future emails. One of the most common UFO crafts that I typically see out in the woods is a small 8-15 foot long triangular to diamond shaped craft that I refer to as Dragonflies. They also fly over these areas with the B2 Stealth Bombers which I call the Patrol Planes. I have seen (once) the nuclear powered TR-3B. I also see a lot of Cessna aircraft over these areas during the daytime, that I refer to as spy planes. These Cessna planes might also be equipment with nonconventional technical abilities, and I have seen them fly in the nighttime skies as well. I will talk more about all of these craft and what I have seen and/or videotaped them doing over these BF hotspot areas in future emails.
Who Are the Bad Guys and What is Their Mission?
I would have continued doing BF research even today (beyond the 4 years) and wouldnt have come forward, had I not been stopped dead in my tracks by what I call the "bad guys". Some might call them the Illuminati. Others might state that they are an Underground Government (government within a government) or an Underground Military controlled by an Underground Government. Some might say that they are high level (33rd degree) Secret Societies. Others might call them Big Brother, or that are they combination of many of the above entities? Who am I to say who they are, it has been hard enough over this time period, for me to be able to attempt to demonstrate and prove that they exist and what some of their intentions are. But in any event, I will refer to this organization within these emails as the bad guys. Now Im convinced that an underground organization like this, with seemingly limitless funds, resources and networking, is dabbling in a lot more things, than just preventing the scientific community and the general populous from discovering the truth about Bigfoot, but dabbling in BF squelching they are!
Is there a BF/UFO Connection?
Now I began to prove (not speculate - prove) that this LFH UFO was beaming down bug chatter or highway sound audio clips in front of me while I was out in the middle of the woods trying to capture BF recordings, as a means of drowning out the BF vocals. So I started to play little mind games with these guys on my recordings ...telling "them" that I knew what they were doing, that they were drowning out my BF vocals with their audio clips, and this only made "them" madder and more determined! So "they" began to distort my files (I have a ton of files, that when one tries to play them it states 'cannot read that file format' or unrecognizable format etc. Others have digital popping-like sounds, or they would completely blank out my entire recording, even though the record button was still lit. Other times "they" turned down my digital recorders input level, or shut off the record button on my recorder. And they did all of their electronic wizardry remotely from crafts in the sky!
It was becoming so frustrating out in the field for me that one night I told the "bad guys" that if "they" continued that I would go forward with all of my evidence and with my story, and that I would organize a bunch of guys out here, who were all equipped with parabolic dishes and recorders. That I would simultaneously and strategically be place the team all around these BF hotspots that I had spent so much time in. Well, the bad guys totally left me alone for 2 or 3 days, but then, little by little they began to harass and frustrate me again. It got worse and worse until I was basically just spinning my wheels out the woods! Its one thing to spend hours upon hours out in the woods in the cold, without family or sleep, but its quite another thing to continue to do it without being able to obtain any results! I would go home with what I thought would be good Bigfoot vocals only to find that nothing was on the file, or that the vocals were so faint as to be almost non-existent! I had a lot of recordings (most of them) where you could hear me talking, but you couldn't hear anything at all in the background ...they totally wiped out the background vocals!
And then it got even worse ...they started to drain my batteries! My digital recorder batteries, which normally lasted about 4 to 6 hours (if batteries were fresh and there was decent environmental conditions) only lasted 10 or 15 minutes. After my batteries would go dead, I would replace them with fresh batteries again, but once again they would drain in about 10 to 15 minutes! On those nights that they drained my batteries, I would feel a tingling sensation (like early stages of frostbite) on my fingers and face and when I got home and looked in the mirror, I would discover that my face had broken out into a rash! Whatever chemicals they were beaming down at me to drain my batteries was also affecting my skin! My wife is my witness. I have olive skin that tans easily without burning, but since those days of the "bad guys" draining my batteries, I am now somewhat allergic to the sun!
Im Sirius Folks!
The brightest star within the nighttime sky is a star called Sirius, which stays near the horizon and is part of the Canis Major (the greater dog) constellation. Sirius is somewhat orientated to Orions belt (do you remember the movie Men in Black?).
Why do I call them pseudo stars? I believe that I know that they aren't stars, but are UFOs superimposed in front of stars that are locked in to their orbital positions as viewed from the land below. Let me give you 5 points to support my position. First off, they wobble (stars don't wobble), secondly they change colors from yellow, to orange, with flashes of red and green (stars do not consist of 4 or 5 colors). Thirdly, they get brighter instead of dimmer as they rise or set along the horizon (they break the rules of star illumination near the horizon). Stars are not normally visible when they are near the horizon due to the extra brightness of the sun's light wrapping around the earth near the horizon. And fifthly, I am not able to take videos of any stars (only planets), including the brightest star (Sirius) in the nighttime sky, with my Sony limited IR night vision camcorder ...they simply aren't bright enough for my camera optics to film. But yet, I can take videos of these pseudo stars with no problem. Does any of this make sense folks?
One night, after completing an all-nighter, I was in the process of recording an audio file while reaching for my parabolic dish which was mounted on a tripod. I had to lift the dish up over a bush to bring it to me and in the process of lifting it from my chair, I hit what felt like a brick wall in the sky about 8 or 10 feet above my head, and simultaneously heard a definite smack sound! I looked up in the sky above me and all that could be viewed were the starry skies in the heavenlies! So I either hit some invisible ancillary audio equipment hanging down from an invisible UFO or else I actually smacked right into an invisible UFO! When I got back to my house to review the audio clip, I discovered that there was a definite smack sound at the 13 second mark of that audio clip!
The Can Can:
So anyway, in one last desperate attempt to beat the "bad guys" (I really didn't want to stop my bigfoot investigating), I built myself a make-shift and somewhat crude RFI enclosure (metal box within a box) to house my digital recorder and hopefully provide some means of shielding from "their" remote, digital invasions. But "they" attacked me even more! They bombarded my recorder with their signalling magic - laughing at my attempts at defeating them! So much so, that I decided to call it quits that night ...no more bigfoot hunting!!! I would no longer waste my time spinning my wheels!
Four Years are Past and the Fifth Year is Here:
But from there, I kept my promise to try to go forward with my BF/UFO story and audio and video clip evidence! I started a YouTube account (thekingdomkeys1) and it (what's left of it) is still there, if you want to check it out. I started to upload some of my files to my account and the "bad guys" (other YouTubers referred to these guys as trolls) gave me fits! They deleted my files, they corrupted my files, they changed my write-ups in my description fields. They especially hated a lot of my BF vocals, where I claim that the creatures were imitating the sounds of other animals - what does that tell you? I spent quite a bit of time on my YouTube account, but it was always 1 step forward and 2 backwards! So I eventually gave up on it! By and large, I discovered that those that posted videos of UFOs on YouTube and referred to the occupants as visitors from Mars, Venus or the Orion Nebula were left alone. But if a person (like me) stated that these UFOs were occupied and/or controlled by humans to squelch the discovery of Bigfoot, they had problems!
Emails and Phone Calls to BF and UFO Organizations and TV Shows:
I will try to leave out individual and organizational names below, for my intent is not to bring discord (the bad guys love it when we fight) but unity to the UFO and BF communities. After all, we might vary on our methodology by using different techniques, tactics and strategies, but we are supposedly all after the same goal the truth behind what is going on out there! My desire is for all of us to jointly share the knowledge that we have individually acquired, in a united effort to expose those that have been hindering us. Bigfoot and UFO organizations have been for the most part just spinning their wheels over the years and I believe that its high time that we begin to move our (joint) agenda forward. We have to begin changing the way we operate with each other! United we will stand, divided we will fall which will it be?
So anyway, getting back to my story, my next strategy was to call and write to tons and tons of so-called BF and UFO experts (the PhD'ers and such) to try get help from them, but they for the most part, all laughed me to scorn! None of them were willing to visit me or come out on investigations with me, or even spend a day with me watching and listening to my hundreds of audio and video clips. I also wrote to actual UFO and BF TV shows on the History, Discovery, Scifi and Animal Planet networks, but none of them showed interested either.
So I decided to go forward with my story to BF forums. I spent months (especially on one forum) telling my story, answering their questions and pleading for help. But again no help was ever offered. From there, I contacted a well known BF researcher and I was actually on his weekly radio show for about 2 months, hoping to get out my story out, but it never happened we always seemed to talk about general meaningless stuff. Next, he and his team decided to visit me. We made an agreement that he and his team would be under my command the first night, and that it would basically be an observation and listening night.
We were all supposed to set up out there before it got dark ...before the creatures would be in the area and in their elements, so that they couldn't hear us before we heard them. But instead the team didnt get out there until well after sunset, making quite a bit of noise and most of them were falling asleep. Only a few of them stayed out there for any length of time, and the remaining few left at midnight. During the time they were out there, one of his team members was beating on a pine tree (BF creatures don't do woodknockings on pine trees!) with a log (another violation of our agreement!). Another one of his team members told me that he was walking around out in the woods in front of me during that observation night (another violation of our agreement!). So needless to say, it was a pretty eventless night. If bigfoot was out there that night, I content that everybody scared them off and that the creatures were listening to and watching us from a distance, rather than vice a versa. And if they weren't out there at that time, but came later, we would have never known it would we, since the few that stayed out there called it quits at midnight? This team states that they do their investigations from 11 pm to 2 am because that is basically the only time that the creatures are out. But I know that that simply isn't true! So much for the help even when you supposedly get it!
Past and Present Harassment from the Bad Guys:
Since 1999 (Im a codefinder and I dug up some dirt on them), but especially over these past 5 years, the "bad guys" repeatedly gave me computer viruses in spite of my passworded router and all of my firewalls and antivirus programs. They tunneled right through my router and constantly shut off and/or disable my antivirus programs and I have had to rebuild my computer hard drive on average of once or twice a year since 1999! Several years ago, a few years before I was scheduled to retire, "they" successfully temporarily completed some identify fraud on me, by stealing my social security number. I tried to claim the number at my local SS office and they told me in so many words that they had no record of that being my social security number and that the number belonged to someone else! I asked them who it belonged to and they told me that they couldn't reveal that information to me. It took me 2 or 3 years of fighting to get my SSN identity back! At one point in time, they got access to my credit card and made charges on it from more than one State and from Canada! Needless to say, I had to get a new credit card.
"They" drive their cars through my front yard, peeling their tires in the middle of the night! They sliced my garden hoses and knocked out a spindle rail in my deck railing while I was out of town. "They" loosened the hardware on my backyard 6-foot tall gate just enough to get in and out of my yard with the gate appearing to still be locked! They turned the volume up and down on my cable TV, while TV watching and even remotely changed the TV channels while watching! They open and close my automatic garage door opener (it is new with a sophisticated coded algorithm, single frequency design) whenever they see fit. They stole my owners manual from my truck and my titles from the glove compartments of my truck and my car. Lastly, they attempted to kill me by running my truck off the road on the Interstate while travelling 70 mph! My truck was totaled but I survived! Organizations don't try to hassle and/or eliminate someone for being delusional, they do it because they are learning the truth!
What Amendment Rights? Why Dont the Bad Guys Come Forward?
Our Amendment rights are being violated! The bad guys (hence the name) violate our constitution! They can and do, follow, monitor and inhibit peoples phone calls, Internet movements, financial transactions, listen and watch us from your cable TV boxes and listen and watch us from the outdoor skies (invisibly if need be), break into our cars and houses! So it becomes pretty apparent why the bad guys dont want to reveal their technological secrets doesnt it? They have been so caught up in their wicked ways for so long, that they no longer have a means to escape or back out! They have no desire to admit that they have been infringing on peoples rights for years. They have no desire to admit that they have been accidentally killing people that are on their hit list for years!
FIRST AMENDMENT [U.S. Constitution]
The First Amendment (Amendment I) to the United States Constitution is part of the Bill of Rights. The amendment prohibits the making of any law respecting an establishment of religion, impeding the free exercise of religion, abridging the freedom of speech, infringing on the freedom of the press, interfering with the right to peaceably assemble or prohibiting the petitioning for a governmental redress of grievances.
FOURTH AMENDMENT [U.S. Constitution]
The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.
What Happened to Tyler Godwin?
Next, a young man (Tyler Godwin, from Mobil, Alabama (email@example.com)) offered to fund and manage a weekly BF bog talk radio show for me. The bad guys have been driving cars through his yard (front and backyard), they loosened up the hardware on his son's training wheels of his bike and he fell off and got hurt! They sent him a strange email with a font type that Tyler said he had never seen before, that said Leave It. The next day when Tyler went in to retrieve the email it was gone! The police recently pulled him over on the road and asked him for his license and registration. He gave the officer his registration and when he looked inside his glove compartment, he discovered that his registration had also been stolen! The officer told him to step out of the car. He was then told that they had a warrant for his arrest and that he would have to go to the station. Tyler asked why what did he do? And the officer stated that he couldnt tell him because his computer was down. The officer then took Tyler to the police station and kept him in a holding cell for a few hours before they eventually released him! They ended up telling him in so many words that he was free to go that they made a mistake and that they didnt have anything on him.
Tyler and I were scheduled to meet in Atlanta, Georgia to discuss the details of the radio show and other BF and UFO topics, but the bad guys cut off all communications between us! They took my landline out of service, and even though our email accounts and cell phones continued to work, we were not able to send emails between us or make phone calls between us. Subsequently, our Atlanta meeting trip was cancelled! To date, we cannot call each other via landlines or cell phones and we aren't able to send and receive emails between us either! Who knows what has been happening to poor Tyler these days. For those that are willing, please forward this email to Tyler on my behalf. Maybe one of your emails will reach him.
What Happened to Carl Lynch?
Next, there is the story of a good email friend of mine, Carl Lynch (firstname.lastname@example.org) from somewhere in the Richmond, Virginia area. He is an electronics gadget collector and an avid UFO investigator. He is an experienced UFO hunter with lots of different types of camera gear. We had been corresponding back and forth for some time on the Internet, but had not actually met yet even though we were planning on going out on an expedition. And you guys can probably figure out the rest of the story, right? Again we were cut off. I cant reach him and he can no longer reach me! For those that are willing, please forward this email to Carl on my behalf. Maybe one of your emails will reach him.
Threaten Me with Heaven:
You know, once one has had an assassination attempt on their life, as I have had, one begins to do some real soul searching, about yourself, your family and friends, your purpose in life on this earth so forth and so on. And it all basically funnels down into one of two choices. To run away from your adversary and live the remainder of your life in fear, or to courageously stand up to your adversary and fight the good fight no matter what your odds! I have chosen to do the later.
For that reason, if, sometime in future I am found dead in a car accident or found dead of a heart attack or a stroke or some other tragedy, I just want you to consider the possibility that it wasnt just an accident or some unfortunate tragedy. The same holds true if I am found dead and the incident is labeled as a suicide. I am in reasonably good to excellent health with normal blood pressure readings. I am not on any medications and I eat reasonably well. I take daily vitamin and mineral supplements and jog 2 miles a day several days a week. I am not depressed and my outlook on life has never been better! So if something were to happen to me tomorrow, you all know my story you have it here in writing.
I love Vince Gills new song: Threaten me with Heaven. The following is an excerpt from his song:
What's the worst thing that can happen,
That's the worst that they can do
Threaten me with Heaven, it's all they can do
Threaten me with Heaven, if they want to
Threaten me with Heaven, I believe that it's true
Threaten me with Heaven, I'll be waiting on you
The Purpose of the Project Beryllium Expedition:
The purpose of the end of March 2012 Project Beryllium Bigfoot/UFO expedition will primarily be to expose the Bad Guys. To collect and document untold amounts of audio and video evidence of how this underground organization is intentionally inhibiting BF researchers from proving the existence of the creatures to the scientific world and to the general populous.
Secondly, the expedition team will make a concerted effort to capture BF vocals, and videos of the creatures. We will attempt to locate their daytime sleeping hideouts and find and make castings of their prints. If we have a large enough turnout, we send out reconnaissance teams in the daytime and stage other nighttime teams for stakeouts.
My Final Plea:
It is my sincere hope that we will be able to unite as many UFO and BF teams as possible, from all over the country, if not the world, in one combined endeavor to accomplish the aforementioned tasks. There is a very real possibility that they will prevent most of you guys from writing back to me, or preventing me from sending out additional emails to all of you. I have reason to believe (while typing this email from a TDY deployment at Guangzhou, China) that I might not be able to reach most of you after sending off this first email. The bad guys have already halted my email correspondence to Tyler Godwin, Carl Lynch and probably even my wife, since I havent received an email from her for over 2 days (we write daily).
So in the event that you guys dont receive the #2 email from me by the following Monday (7 Nov 2011), try corresponding with others on the email mailing list. Try to contact other UFO and BF and Scientific organizations and spread the word of what is going on here. Send emails and phone calls back and forth between groups. Lets break this thing wide open! Spread it across the airwaves spread it across the world-wide-web! The more this fight becomes united the less the bad guys will be able to do! It is relatively easy for them to stamp out and silence a few individuals, but it will become a total nightmare for them to attempt to stamp out a large united movement!
More emails to hopefully follow.
Well, the odds of live existing outside our planet aren't too bad given the scale and frequency of Sun-sized stars...so Ill start and finish my thought and personal belief in saying " i believe in the possibility of UFO's"
Now assuming those astronomical odds have alligned somehow in conjunction w/ a creature on earth that the gov't has some sort of binding connection to..well you could multiply those odds by a factor of about a billion. Weirder things have happened I guess in the grand scope of the history of the world, but damn.
I think its human nature to tie in unexplained things with other unexplained things, maybe in someone's mind is the easiest link. Like that night I was listening to Ed Dames talk about a giant projector monlolith orbiting the moon that projects these "things" sasquatch and otherwise onto planet earth for some reason, or Whitley Striebers theory that Grey's genetic pool is drying up and they are here probing our DNA codes for their species existance...point being "what a stretch". I wont deny the existance of said things but I'm sure as hell not going to assume and believe something unless there are physical , measurable traces of said anomoly.
I've read in depth of the UFO/Squatch connection. Many people also assume and link paranormal phenomona to the creature. I see no direct evidence in the fossil record for this, nor in the evolution of primates or homonids for that matter. The only way people can rationalize ghosts and spirits is the fundamental established belief, over the centuries ,is that humans have some "immortal" aspect of their being, a soul or spirit that dies after life. In the animal kingdom we do not attach a spirit or soul to the dog, the cat or the mouse so scientifically speaking it would be very reckless to join paranormal attributes to the animals...after all the idea of a soul or spirit or the fact ghost exists rests on faith anyways at the end of the day; EVP's and whatnot only go so far.
Quote : SasquatchMS :I've read in depth of the UFO/Squatch connection. Many people also assume and link paranormal phenomona to the creature. I see no direct evidence in the fossil record for this, nor in the evolution of primates or homonids for that matter. The only way people can rationalize ghosts and spirits is the fundamental established belief, over the centuries ,is that humans have some "immortal" aspect of their being, a soul or spirit that dies after life. In the animal kingdom we do not attach a spirit or soul to the dog, the cat or the mouse so scientifically speaking it would be very reckless to join paranormal attributes to the animals...after all the idea of a soul or spirit or the fact ghost exists rests on faith anyways at the end of the day; EVP's and whatnot only go so far.
Just what evidence would show up in the fossil record regarding the spirituality of any being?
As far as "belief" in the spiritual nature of any being, you are correct the knowledge of such things is faith based.
I am a Christian, and the Bible is full of references to spirits, both good and evil. I base my belief on a lifetime of experiences with the paranormal, both good and evil. As far as animals are concerned you state that animals do not have souls or spirits. I disagree, I have seen several. Tell someone who has lost a pet that they do not have souls, several people have reported seeing departed pets numerous times. You may feel it is "reckless" to believe in animal spirits but I respectfully disagree.
Lastly you stated that "evp's and whatnot only go so far", here again I respectfully disagree. I have several physical examples of spirits and demons that have crossed my path over the course of 45 years. I have shared a few photos with Jim that would convince even the most adamant skeptic. I will not go on and on with my tales of the paranormal as this is a BF board. Some of my stories can be seen in the Conundrums radio program archives that J Michael hosts. As a matter of fact you may want to ask J Michael if he believes that I have had these experiences. Speaking of BF, no one knows exactly what abilities a BF has. My point of this post is not to criticize, but to clarify what I know to be paranormal and spiritual facts.
My advice is that everyone keep an open mind until the day that a BF specimen is available for study.
After more years then I want to remember I have learned this...by Monster Hunter
This is one strange critter...
I think my point really was in summary that these are Super creatures and Natural ...but not supernatural.
Scientists have not YET proven the existance of God , the nature of the soul, wether or not humans and animals have an immortal aspect to their being. All im saying is that in Science there is not a "faith clause" or a "superstition theory", there are facts. When trying to research an extermly rare animal that is illusive matters of faith or belief dont hold much weight or room when trying to make plaster casts or obtaining DNA.
Super animals yes..,but not supernatural.
I dont deny the possiblity for the existance of God or souls or whatnot, when you get down to odds well your either right or wrong, science will never bridge the middle ground unless CERN reveals the God Particle somehow and manages to trace its source, then obtain a sample of the particles and create an organic string of DNA,Cells, then Molocules and harnesses that particle to their atoms and creates life in a lab from scratch.
In Scripture however Jesus cast out demons from a man and cast them into pigs (Mark 5). This would suggest that pigs were like a man in capacity of a soul, and in how they are animated (although it is of course not proof). So when I hear a Christian say animals dont have souls I get kinda ticked off, I'm Glad you do because it means your pretty smart regarding the subject. BUt there is also a second aspect :
First we must understand what is a soul. The bible said that God created man in His own image.
Nothing was said of the animals or plants. The bible said that God breath the spirit of life into his nostril and man become a living soul. Nothing was said like this in the creation of animals. Animals were created differently. God just spoke the word and they appeared. So the spirit of life that was breathe to a man and his likeness to God makes him unique from other creations and he was called a living soul. Man has godlkike character. He is aware of morality, he is aware of sins and forgiveness. He has the ability to understand the words of God and he is aware that one day he can be with God if he obeys his creator. Animals and plants are not aware of any of these so ..there ya go Maybe animals have a spirit, w/ the possiblity of lingering after death due to their energy not being absorbed or converted (e=mc2)
I hear more faked EVPS and CGI digital video effects of ghosts so its impossible to tell if they are genuine or not these days b/c its so easy to fake..unfortuantly. In the end the way to confirm a ghost or spirit would result from a containment field of some sort trapping a spirit or soul in it and then measuring it's energy and then testing it against controls and see if there are reactions, again a long shot in terms of science proff.
I just go w/ facts though, the real measurable proven data in scientific journals that come from guys that do it for a living. thats how i base my research in the field when attempting study of this animal. No disrespect at all , just a difference in opinion. happy hunting
I think that,,,by SAsquatcher
You may be intertwining a soul and a spirit.
Here is a simple way to look at it.
Man (according to the Bible) is a spirit, he possesses a soul, he lives in a body.
I think that most Christians do not understand the difference between the 3.
Man (like God) is a spirit, that is the part that is eternal which animals do not possess.
He possesses a soul (that is the intellect) which animals do have as well to a degree.
He lives in a body, when the body wears out, the other 2 parts go to their destination.
You also notice that the Bible says that God said "Let us make man in "OUR" image",so God is also a triune being or "trinity" (Father, Son, and Holy Spirit).
So in summary according to the Bible it's kind of like this, animals are bi-level beings (They posess a soul and a body) but man is a tri-level being,(Posessing body, soul and spirit) so when you hear a christian say that animals don't have souls, don't get ticked off, just realize that they are confusing a "soul" with a "Spirit"(according to the Bible).
ahh i think you hit the nail on the head there, and a good way of looking at things.
I haven't seen any weird objects in the sky, but I will say that the more I find really good spots to investigate, the more oddity and weirdness the situations get.
not just me, but to every single hardcore researcher that I know of. same type of incidences and activity.
I know that the .gov knows a helluva lot about these things, but from talking to several .gov employees they honestly don't know much. ironic. One man I talked to with very high credentials specifically told me under no circumstances to act like as though you know them, because we don't know and you shouldn't take chances. he also told me this and I quote "be very careful and have an open mind, that there are many issues regarding these beings". He also stated " the odd thing is that there are many species with have no evolutionary branch "
we know they are flesh and blood. we know they are real. slowly we are getting pieces of the puzzle.
I've often wrestled with this question as well. I do believe BF is flesh & blood. But as a physical being, like us, it would have a soul. Therefore it is a spiritual being, just as we are. Since BF is unencumbered with the day to day worries we have, it is probably far more in touch with it's SELF than we are, and by virtue of that fact would be more spiritual. Living as it does it would live more in the moment than we do.
Because of this it may be more sensitive or aware than we are and more in touch with spiritual abilities than we are. This does not make it magical, just more aware and it could use this to its advantage.
I'm not saying it could disappear or do anything we can't do. However it may be able to do things we can do but do them better and with far greater accuracy. Just as a mystic or yogi can do incredible physical feats such as walk on coals of fire. They can overcome physical pain and such.
These creatures would probably be far more in touch with their environment and have awareness we no longer use. Just as Native Americans could hunt with great proficiency and knew how to move with the wind and get close to animals to kill them. In other words, the Bigfoots skills are honed and he is very in tune to them.
Let's face it, he doesn't worry about the IRS, money woes or other things that clog up our minds. He isn't distracted. He is living in the moment of each day and in his life, skills are necessary to survival. His focus is on the present. He isn't bothered by cold or bugs like we are. This makes him acutely aware of everything around him.
Is it possible he may be able to influence you in ways you may not be aware? Perhaps. Just as someone can stare at you from behind and in time you will sense it and turn to look, he may be able to nudge you to move where he wants you to, or even make you nervous. None of this makes him supernatural, just far more aware than you are and able to use abilities we can only manifest in specific situations.
Martial artists and gurus have taught such abilities for centuries. He comes by it naturally. As a being in touch with himself and his environment he out classes you with every move. To him, you are sending out all kinds of mixed signals in the woods and are very noticeable. As Jim once said, we are their entertainment. I think we stand out to them, on many levels.
They smell us, they hear us, they sense us and they see us. Tricking them may be a very difficult matter indeed.
If they have minds at least above the highest animal or somewhere close to human then we could expect them to have a higher awareness. Match that with the fact they live their entire lives in the forest and are closer to nature and you get a being that to us, might seem to be supernatural.
I have a problem with the accuracy of info presented in this post. For one, he said this:
"These Cessna planes might also be equipment with nonconventional technical abilities, and I have seen them fly in the nighttime skies as well."
It doesn't take any special equipment to fly at night. It's all pretty standard. I'm seeing a lot of hype and possible over-exaggeration in this post.
I am pretty much with Steve on the airplane stuff. The B2's in Mo are about 60 mlesfrom me ad we rarely see them. Where do the Cessna's stay. What airport. Clandestine stuff seems to stick out pretty much at airports. The local airport guys hang out and see more than you think. I have talked to some old salts in the BF world and some say some of this electronic stuff has been experienced by them and some never mention it at all or say BS.
in forests e.g. the Saratoga Ghost Light or the Marfa Lights. YES, I have seen both of these strange unexplainable lights. The Saratoga Lights are seen along Bragg Road in East Texas and free-float through the trees in the forests along this road. I have no idea what has caused the orange-yellow, blue-green lights that begin one size and increase. The Marfa Lights melted into one another and broke apart. We saw red, white, yellow and blue the night we viewed them.
SO, yes I have seen strange lights in a forest! While I do not consider myself to be a person of psychic talents, I DO believe I'm an empathic individual, who IF open to an experience, is gonna get one hexx of a fright (has happened too many times. So much so that Silver Fox will NOT take me to any more allegedly haunted locations)
Keep Calm and Carry On!
Dot: I'm all over it this! I'm going to get it toy toy toy....
Waaaaaiiit a minute! That's a BIG first step.....
Well lookit all that water and there goes my toy!
ok ok don't rush me, any minute, don't rush me, hang on, don't rush me
Oh man, here I go!
OOF! the things that woman gets me to do - I'm gonna need the SPCA on speed dial.
Nice...by Monster Hunter
Slow start but a job well done...
I just thought Dot was incredibly cute
This is just to funny...by Monster Hunter
Several years ago Chester Moore, Bobby Hamilton and I had a no-kill/kill debate with the TBRC...obviously we were in the pro-kill camp with the TBRC explaining the existence of these creatures could be proven with video...well boys...looked like you've changed your plans...I'm telling you...these folks who preach no-kill would steal a Monster carcass off the front porch of their mamma's house...
approximately 25-30 yards from Colyers position. Using his Remington 1100 Tac-4 12 gauge auto-loading shotgun, loaded with 000 buckshot followed by slugs, he attempted to collect the animal for scientific analysis, firing all the rounds in rapid succession.
25-30 yards with 000 buck and slugs, then didn't hit a thing? WOWWW
if you read their "mission statement" it says they are "not opposed to members being armed if legal and properly trained".
Colyer may be legal to carry a shotgun, but with that performance, he needs more training........
It also sounded like he panicked and was emptying his gun wildly.
To have had someone to teach them to hunt when.he was a kid. I had. BB gun at 3 then a 22 rifle at 5. Got my first shotgun at 6 years old n i loved that old single shot 410. Killed my first deer with it when i was 7.. My dad taught me alot. Main thing was how to love the outdoors and how.to shoot
And I would say that the pro-kill argument really won out because the other guys were not as strong in their positions. I've always thought Daryl and Craig agreed with the pro-kill points made but it does take two sides to have a debate. Great memories from that Conference because it was the first time we got to meet Monster Hunter, Bigfoothunter and several other people including the deceased Bill Riddle (God bless him) who became a very good email buddy to us.
Thanks for the memory!
I am looking for a used camera that uses real film, not digital! Remember back in the early 80's when the Nikon F-3 was THE camera to have?? Are any of those around still? I want to get into the hobby, Kelly and I want to take a course out at Hinds or somewhere on Photography just for fun, but we want to learn how to do it right and to develop our own pictures, especially black and white film. Considering Bigfooting, I think basic camera skills can come in handy.
You will probably have to visit a camera shop or photography store. Film cameras are still around but they can be expensive since everything is going digital. Film is also getting hard to find and expensive. Make sure you get one with interchangeable lenses. Nikon is a good brand, also Canon optics are very good.
some real good outfits at some local auctions go for next to nothing. Maybe put an ad out there. Lots of folks still have good cameras and don't use them now that we're in the digital age. Good to see someone interested in the older technology. You can't beat a good black and white photo that's been developed by the photographer who took it.
thrift shops get older made cameras since people have the newer technology now. You may pick up a good one and you may even find film there. Check the classified ads in the local newspaper also.
American Bigfoot scientists and researchers felt hoodwinked by Russian Yeti event...by Monster Hunter
Well now...it appears Meldrum can't be hood winked by the Russkies...just because there were a few cut marks on the broken trees, a convenient well used path to a cave with a Yeti nest, a hair found but not in this nest doesn't really mean the Russians were hoaxing just a tad does it?...c'mon Doc....these folks are professionals aren't they?...
ya i felt sorry for Meldrum...he's a good guy
you'd say that? These let downs and scams are normal I guess but they just enforce to the public that there is probably no such thing as bf and it no doubt hurts the legitimate researchers who are trying to proove different. Personally I find these sorts of things disappointing.
Yesterday Oct 25,2011 an article on the front page of the Wall Street Journal about BF in Russia; mentions a woman in Michigan named Robin Lynne. She states that she feeds BF in her back yard. I have not heard of her. Has anyone else?
Robin Lynne...by Monster Hunter
IMO is delusional as are the many folks who claim habituation...
who used to dress BF up in overalls and play Barbie's with them in the poop barn?
LOL...She received a report...by Monster Hunter
from a lady that claimed she saw a BF wearing overalls...a kind of habituation episode that involved the ladies dad who she claimed worked for the government...I think he did but as an inmate in the prison system since he would disappear for several years at a time...more then likely moon shine...
Poop barn is a complete different tale but was told by her...
I remember that,,,by SAsquatcher
It was "Little Sam".
I also remember you and Bobby saying,,"There ya go, all we have to do now is buy some overalls and throw at them and when they get all tangled up in them trying to put them on we can bust their a$$".
Or something to that effect.
He's on our side...one of the good guys and if anyone in this thing of ours wants to make a statement so be it.
I'm an idiot but you always gave me a place to speak.
I met Jeff weekend before last. Got a great interview. He is a nice guy.
How is everyone doing?Been doing great since last weekend! DonDon you got to show me how you do the monster call,because I tried doing one yesterday and it sounded pretty pittifull.Hope we can do that again sometime this summer.
Just listen to the call several times and get out in the woods and let her go man. Practice man, practice. I been working on my Bionic bird call since we left and figured out what I was doing wrong. I got it down ALOT better now
Just got back from picking up me a new truck. 2006 Z71 4WD with only 58k miles. I can get on back in there and get em now!!!
Your new truck for toting around your new granddaughter....don't you?
Priorities my man LOL
That a great looking truck. I have the same truck but with 71k miles and blue and I love it! That was the same truck I pulled a couple of people out of the mud at MC...... and got pelted with mud after pushing SOMBODY's white jeep cherokee!
Some advice...by Monster Hunter
The truck is not set up for mudding...to clean, no lift and no winch...stay on some hard ground or you'll do some walking looking for a trator to come and get you since you'll be able to get further in...
Been There and Done That
BTW...nice looking truck...and when you get stuck you'll remember the advice...
a Toyota Tacoma 4x4............
but I'll be able to get down some roads that I couldn't before. Save me a little walking but it's way to loud to drive it close in to where I'll be researching
AND the Fiance is working...let's go! Seriously, I am ready, map in hand.
of I would. Either the 5th or the 12th of Nov though, it's on
I drove out to the get-together location we met up @ last saturday night. Anyways, I crossed the area we parked our cars at, and about 100yards past that suddenly chills shot through my entire body, I felt nausea, confusion, fear, and this odd thumping pressure on my head like as if an invisible forces was pulsing through my body and was leaving me on the verge of passing out or rather just wanting to lay down and hope it passed. I was driving my car at the time, as soon as I realized the further I drove in the worse it got (took all about 5 seconds before I couldnt tolerate it any more) I hit the brake and threw my car in the other direction, 100 yards in the opposite direction and the effects bled off rather swiftly.
The ride down there was uneventful, I felt no odd body sensations or ticks or anything I felt normal. During the day I had drank at least 1 to 1-1/2 quarts of water,8oz coffee, and half a gatorade so I was hydrated rather well for not exerting any real stress or physical activity for the day. I've been on the fence concerning infrasound, last night I might have had it happen to me, because I cannot come up with any reason why suddenly those symptoms and things started happening to my body. It was extermly odd.
Although I was inside my car w/ engine noise, and my windows up...I could sense some sort of extra noise coming from somewhere, it was corresponsing with the increase of pressure on my body and the way the symptoms manifested and seemed to escalate like there was a corresponding force white noise that automatically began its onset when I crossed some sort of invisible boundary. It was profound.
My thoughts are that the energy level to produce waves of a magnitude that could do that to you inside a vehicle at those kind of distances would be far beyond what even a very large animal could muster. Your talking about military grade energy levels.
well see infrasound travels through trees, however metal? im wondering myself, as I said im on the fence about the idea of an animal producing such an extreme effect, however there is documentation suggesting its possible. Dolphins use it to stun and confuse their prey. I dont know, it was just weird as hell.
IF I remember correctly, elephants have been recorded using ultra low frequency/infrasound and this supposedly lets them communicate with others a mile or more away.
So what would 100 yards or so be for some other large creature with that capability?
Also, with the many reports I've read on the web (grain of salt, sure), either quite a few people have been zapped by BFs - OR - BF researchers need to start wearing tin foil hats because they're being targeted, for whatever reason, by military assets while in they're out in the field looking for mythical beasts?
That don't add up.
I just think that it's a severe case of anxiety. I've had an anxiety attack before and what you just described is exactly what I felt. I just don't believe it infrasound
lol well that really sucks
Good answer Don...by Monster Hunter
I've seen a few get overcome by anxiety...
One person was hearing and seeing things the other two of us couldn't...had to remove his butt from the area before he freaked out on us...
out by one of these creatures and say they get all confused and disoriented. That's just plain out FEAR right there. Their minds can't comprehind the odor at that moment and they get confused and scaterbrained
I've seen a few get there brain scrambled from the stench...by Monster Hunter
Had no idea where they were and what they were doing but could remember smelling a horrible smell...LOL...drove to a man's home late one evening...he met me at the door asking did these Monsters have a stink to them...yes they do and yes one did at his home...one of the worst I've ever smelled...
Panic attacks are more common then thought especially within a group...one gets panicky causing others to panic...kind of like screaming fire in a theater...or being lost...now being turned around in an area is tough but being lost and I mean no idea where you are will cause a person to panic...all hunters that walk in unknown areas get turned around a bit...have some idea of the general direction but not quite sure...
Years ago I took a man squirrel hunting in Lincoln Parish...he hunted the creek and I hunted an area I knew was full of cat(grey) squirrels...about 10 AM he hadn't shown up at the truck...I heard him shoot a couple of times but each shot was further down the creek...I walked in about a mile looking for him when I heard a horn blow back by our truck...walked back out and there he was...caught a ride after walking about five miles to the highway and catching a ride some twenty miles back to the truck...yes he got lost...wasn't a dry thread on him and not one squirrel...
and I ain't gonna lie. I was SCARED so I backed out of the area. When I came back with a couple of other folks, the smell was gone and my nerves were alot better. I was literally shaking when it hit me.
Funny thing is,,,,by SAsquatcher
You don't always get the smell put on you when they are present!
It's the ones that don't put out that smell and tippy toe up behind you that get me neck hairs standing up.
Specially when you're taking a leak and they sneak up behind ya BWAAA HAHAHA
Don't I know it!by SAsquatcher
What kind of monsters are they to sneak up on a fella watering a tree,,,DIRTY DOGS!
Can't a fella get some privacy in the woods,,LOL.
also can produce the symptoms of nausea and light headedness.
To a "T." There is a spring, Blackberry bushes, deer racoon, beaver, giant fresh water mussels, and plenty of canopy and undergrowth.Plenty of ambush points as well. I will also state that the cane/grass/reed area is the first time I have felt deathly afraid that something was in the grass area with me. On the way out I saw a trail bigger than the one three of us made on the way in that intersected our trail.
Great point for further research.
My areas now...by Monster Hunter
Dusty with little to no water...mostly pine thickets with plenty of briar's...walked the creek late Saturday afternoon...not enough water for a drink and not a good one...ground is as hard as a rock even after the rain...maybe that's why the Monsters are quiet...dry mouthed...
One area of interest I'm getting reports of some Monsters screaming...probably because they need some water...in all my years I haven't seen the ponds, lakes and creeks this dry here...down at MC I saw a small turtle wade the mud to the middle of what we once called a pond...not enough water to cover his back...two of the ponds have deep water wells so they are both full...Jake and I need to check the banks around them to see what critters are coming for a drink...both are in open areas...to open for Monsters IMO...
20 yards from a pond taken on sunday
Nice...by Monster Hunter
Looks like he may be full grown...
First and foremost, I think it's food and water with a small human population coming in 2nd.
We (GCBRO) will get a report in or I'll get a report from an individual and when I go to investigate it, that first thing I look for are food sources and water locations.
Is there alot of different food sources that will last year round? Food sources I look for are berries, fish, crawfish, mussels, deer and many small critters like Rabbits and squirrels.
Water location is important as well. Where is this water source? Is it a lake out in the middle of a pasture and the closest thick woods are a 1/2 mile away? That's not a good source. Now a natural spring in a hardwood bottom with real think cane breaks and pine thickets, that's a place that I would think would be a perfect location right there.
The location we were at this past weekend has it all IMO. Several creeks in the general area with swamps, cane breaks, new growth pine thickets along with hardwood bottoms and plenty of ambush locations. Really, it reminds me of Monster central alot with the terrain and types of timber.
Asa I walked around, I found Huckleberry bushes and even brought some back with Mary Ann ate LOL. There's crawfish all in the lake we were at plus I know there's Muscles in the lake as well. All are real good protein sources.
Lastly IMO is human population and proximity. Where we were at this weekend, there are very few people nearby. Most times you'd see a couple mobile homes and/or smaller houses all bunched up together, then nothing for several miles, then more all bunched up. All these things add up to a good location
What's ya'lls thoughts?
What you mentioned Don...by Monster Hunter
Over the years that's what I have found to ring true...hunting season will move them closer to the rural homes more so then thought especially around the non-hunters homes...seems as if they like the homes without men which could mean Monsters fear man but not women...one area I'm working the ladies husband works off shore...though he has heard some unexplainable sounds and noises these sounds and noises seem to escalate when he's gone to work...I did take a picture of an old large track in the sand there Sunday...little definition but never the less a Monster smudge...
This past Sunday a lady mentioned Monsters coming around and not liking mobile homes...IMO folks buy these homes placing them on property in areas where there are Monsters...over the years I've received reports from folks who have done this...
Check out your topo mapsby Grumpy
Don, there is a road from the south and then a short trail that goes right to where the two creeks meet, lot closer walk than from the end of the road we were on..... check it out.
my buddy says natural funnels and chock-points in the terrain are what they utilize for ambushing and killing deer, topo maps are a must for this detailed assesment of an area. Nothing can substitute for on the ground surveying of an area. When I go out, I usually Google satellite an area and look for at least a 1km area of un-molested forest to browse...thats always a good start in rural areas.
Their better than they were but some of the Aerial photos are OLD and may be clear cut. Don;t ask me how I know this LOL
...about the place we were in. Zero traffic. Living in the city you get used to cars and even late at night the occasional car will pass down my loop. During the hours we were there not one single car passed our location or none that I heard. You become acutely aware of this when it's missing. Sounds of people.
No low altitude airplanes either, All that passed over were high. So no airport nearby. No skylight from a local town or city either. Other than the sounds of the woods it was totally remote. You could hear owls far in the distance and closer by.
Don did some calls and even those in the bottoms said they didn't hear it. People walked out of radio range and didn't encounter people or homes as far as I know. We were far enough from the lake to not hear the people there either.
Up the road were some hunters but they appeared to turn in soon after dark. When Don would do a call you could hear the echo easily.
If there is a middle to nowhere, we were there. LOL
I think Grumpy walked far enough to find a highway. He covered a lot of ground that night. So did Joey.
And again, on that dirt road while we waited for Joey to come back not a single car came by. The field we were in had been plowed but during the night not a single soul was around.
It is as Don described it, a prime location for monsters and I think we heard a few. But in this area there is so much territory to move around in the critters had plenty of area to move through. We probably caught a few passing by.
Deer hunters will probably fill this area when the gun season opens so critters may move closer to civilization. However that night I didn't notice a single deer. I'm sure they are there but they were unusually quiet and not moving around. None on the side of the road either.
Don, you couldn't have picked a better location. IMHO.
when they close down the park we were at. It's going to be a prime place to check out.
From what the older man that oversees the place said, they lock down the gates from December 3rd til mid March.
HUMMM, Hunters all around the place on National Forest property and this place they can't hunt at all. Sounds like a PRIMETIME location to me to investigate.
I'll talk to the National forest folks and see if I can't get permission to go in during the off season and with the park closed. Almost sounds to perfect
That primitive hunting camp we passed Saturday night may be a good base camp during non-hunting season. Seemed big enough. Close to an cement road and close enough to the area you are interested in.......
There is no reason a human soul would be in that deep. No one lives there. You are right Don, once you can't hunt there and you can't fish, no human would be in the area. Unless you just like traipsing around in the cold and dark late at night for no reason, (other than to look for critters), I doubt you would find anyone for miles.
If they do this annually then the critters probably already know where to be during hunting season, smack dab in the middle where we were. It's safe, there is plenty of food and water and no pesky humans to bother you.
Don, I think you found Sasquatch Heaven.
And had some action as well as Torrey who cound teepee structures n had some other things happen. Barry. When gun season opens just before Thanksgiving that whole area is gonna be slam packed with folks so its going to push the creatures somewhere. Now to figure out were. Im kinda thinking the place we camped could be one place but im going to chech out up and down stream along the creeks that were there. Nice to have a place less than 2 hours away
WHEN ya'll go, please include me. I will do whatever is necessary to get off work.
When we go back in November we can do a little recon and map GPS locations around the area, where the trails are, etc. Do this in the day so when we or others go back at night in December all the places are marked? Look for sign too. I bet that field may have some along the edges and down around the creeks.
Plus I'd like to get back in the woods with Don soon too.
It IS Bow season right now
Agricultural areas and the types of crops being grown. The deer population and their migration routes through these areas. Natural hiways used by the wildlife into the region. And Apple trees. The ones in southern michigan uses Apple trees as markers which i cannot explain but they do.
Sorry I couldn't make it but that ugly word...by Monster Hunter
work had me down for the count...nice pictures and I do believe I recognize a few of those folks...
Had a few new folks that wanted to meet ya. Next time though for sure
We had a great time seeing some very dear old friends. Bob, Ken, Rogan, Barry, Jay and all yous guys spouses.
Then add in some new blood along with the guys from here in Mississippi and one from Tennessee and it all ads up to a great time.
We even had some action sitting out Saturday night. We took about a dozen people out that night and went into a few different locations, all near the bottoms. We (Nessa, Jay, Mike, Rogan, Gary, Joeys brother in law and myself, were sitting down in a plowed green patch about a 1/2 mile off the dead end dirt road, had something thrown in between Nessa and Mike.
I don't think it was a rock and it wasn't something falling out of the trees. I've been thinking about it and it HAD to be a dirt clod since we checked the are it landed and there was only dirt, that's it. I think something eased up into the field, grabbed a dirt clod and the moved around and threw it at us. in my mind, that's the only thing that could have happened since nothing was found at all where it landed.
Tell ya, I've had things happen when I've let out a call but it seemed like this night, that every time I screamed, the woods came alive. The owls went off each time and then one time, we got the bionic not once but 8 TIMES coming from behind us. It wasn't stationary but moved at a constant pace. moving in and then away from us.
This is one beautiful area and I will be back down here doing research on many occasion.
Course it helps that it's about 1/2 way towards my new grand daughter, motivation in itself to head that way!!!
Thanks so much guys for coming and those who couldn't make it, you really did miss a wonderful time, not only researching but just the fellowship we had. We have the best group out there with alot of no nonsense researchers.
Thanks guys and can't wait to see ya again.
PLEASE never give away an exact location when asked, just a common courtesy. Just say central mississippi when asked.
I too just want to say it was a great time this past weekend. So good to see the familiar faces as well a meeting some new people. I have really missed these get togethers & am looking forward to future ones. Really looking forward to getting back out & doing some more research as well.
for hosting the event and for all of the great food and company. Like someone said the pulled pork was great. Jambalaya was OK, but I need to show you how a coonass makes a jambalaya tho. LOL The chili Barry's wife cooked was awesome too!
Beaver or Raccoon in in Ken BWAAA HAHAHA Sho am glad you made it and that we had time to sit and BS
never use beaver in my jambalaya..............hmmmm...........maybe coon though! LOL
beaver and whatever else the guy could shoot in his stew back when I was a teen. Only nasty thing was a dang possom, GROSS, It's real greasy
Possum?...by Monster Hunter
Did you have to lick your butt to get the taste out of your mouth?...nasty little creatures that will eat anything...years back when I ran coyotes with dogs we would go to the dead cow pile to turn our dogs loose...sometimes the only critter that came out of a dead cow was a possum...
But...I do think Monsters have a taste for them or else they're extremely hungry...walking trails by the shot gun stand I've seen dead possums on the ground, eyes wide open with me thinking a live animal...turned them over and the hide was neatly cut from the head to the tail and not a piece of meat anywhere...
I Agree Jim,,,by SAsquatcher
Nasty little varmints they are!
They will start eating in the rear end of a dead cow and eat their way right out the front.
Disgusting little critters but at least they do help clean up the woods.
too everybody for a great weekend and good food..... Very pretty park.
...for a great weekend! Thanks to all who made it a great venture!
What's wierd is this is the first time that you and I have been out in the woods and we've known one another since 2007 or so.
barry was one and here's the other one. When shining the lights, I didn't notice any fog but I guess it had since it shows up in the pics. Here's that pic and see the Orbs?
Weird pic! I didn't see any fog out there either!
Easily explained.... this fog was created after bear walked the path, all that chilli does have side effects....................................
It was hurting me and everyone else around me walking around that night LOL DANG GOOD stuff though
It maybe what they call spectral mist and yes, you do seem to have an orb in the shot, too.
Was that what you were asking?
I MAY have had a cigarette going when I was picking up the camera LOL
Boy, he sure is one UGLY joker, ain't he LOL LOL
I'd expect nothing less
I did have enough time too see that light and know it was going to flash so I was swinging my arms like Patty........
Coming back from the Ms Meeting Edith and I had a little adventure trying to find my grandparents old homestead in Jasper county. It's been years since I was there. Growing up we would visit when I was a child. It was here that my grandfather (PawPaw) told me about "Swamp Apes."
After some driving I found the old homestead!
This is what it looks like now. Back in the 80's they did some work on the house and I heard in the 90's it was rented out for a while. Now it has fallen back into ruin and looks nothing like it did when I was little.
This view is looking up from the house to my aunt and uncle's old barn.
In 1973 Boggy Creek came out and about a week later we went to my grandparents house. This is when I asked my pawpaw about foulk monsters and he told me about the swamp apes that would come up to the pond behind the house. My grandmother referred to them as "nasty" which made me think she must have seen them doing something immoral or lewd. It was something of a taboo subject but pawpaw would go fishing with a rifle. He said, "As long as they stayed on their side of the pond he wasn't afraid of them." But he kept the rifle handy anyway.
I remember well taking baths in a wash tub, drawing water from the well and back then they only had an outhouse. Yes, it was rural then and now. Originally this was an old shotgun house with only one power line running to it and they had a single bulb in the living room for light. They did have a propane tank for fuel and a stove by the 70's. Before that mawmaw used a wood stove.
Anyway, pawpaw was well aware of the swamp apes and referred to them no different than any other animal in the area. But it wasn't a topic of discussion so getting info was not easy back then. I do have a few stories if anyone is interested.
I had not been to this area since the late 70's but now I think I will make contact with the current owners and see if I can go poke around behind the old house soon, and go down to the pond back there. Plus I want to take more photos of the old house and maybe some video too. If for no other reason than to have some home movies.
This place brings back many old memories and the scary stories I heard as a child. My pawpaw had a 6th grade education and was not prone to making up stories. His actions told me the critters were there, as he always took a rifle or shotgun down to the pond. He had a little pistol to shoot snakes with. Obviously the rifle and shotgun was for something much bigger. My mawmaw didn't like talking about them, she would just get quiet and seemed disgusted when I would bring up the subject. I learned not to talk about it openly very early.
And if it hadn't been for Boggy Creek I might never have brought up the subject and got my pawpaw to talk about them.
Anyway, I thought I'd share the photos and some of the story. It was good to get back there and find the old place.
and it's neat you got to go back and see the place you went to as a child. KNOW the memories came flooding back. If we go back down in November, lets do it before gun season opens up
Before we left Edith and I agreed to go back camping, probably in November before it gets very cold. She loved the place. I'll let people know when we go and maybe we can have a few come too. I'm headed up to PA for Eric Altman's conference this weekend. After that we will plan something. We'd love it if some others can join us camping.
lived in McCool, Columbus and Jackson, Mississippi. She and I traveled to visit all of the relatives, including her daughter my aunt, during the summers. I got on a train the first week in June and didn't come home until the end of August (school didn't start until Tuesday after Labor Day). I remember bathing in a washtub, going to the outhouse at night with my granny and a flashlight and stoking the wood-burning stove in my Great-Aunt Ivy's kitchen each morning. During the early 1950s the summer weather was a great deal cooler than it is now and that stove felt great once I got it going. They boiled their coffee with egg shells. I picked fresh corn, dug up 'new' potatoes and brought in the eggs from the hen house. Great Aunt Ivy was one of the best cooks I ever knew. I LOVED every day I stayed in their old house with it's tin roof (rain on that roof was a show in itself). My Great Uncle Elmer created a 'canopy' over my iron bedstead to keep the dead spiders out of my bed. The Dirt Daubers and the spiders fought nightly battles in the open rafters and I got the pleasure of sleeping with several spider carcases until Great Uncle performed magic with an old sheet. THOSE WERE THE DAYS.
Raided a watermelon patch late one night and got the scare of a lifetime...but that's a story for another day.
That old barn looks like an invite for a sleepy monster. Keep us posted of your return trip there. Would love to hear your stories if you decide to post them.
Had a great time meeting everyone. Intersting evening of research. Despite being exhausted I had a good time. Haven't reviewed the thermal yet. Keep your fingers crossed.
Hey man, I tried emailing you when I got home. But both email sites I used could not send to the email address that you gave me on the card. Is there any other way to get ahold of you,my friend?
A special thanks to Don and Vanessa for all the hard work and good food, Bear for the Chilli Friday night and Teresa for the Dutch Oven Deep Dish Peach Cobbler. It was great seeing many old friends again and meeting a few new ones.
These were just a few I shot and had to reduce the quality to Post, as usual as soon as I get time I'll email all I shot to those I have email address(s) for.
Soon as nessa gets to work, she'll get hers downloaded and we'll post em up
Unfortunately, got in a hurry this morning & left the camera sitting on the kitchen counter. I'll make sure I have it tommorrow though so Don can post our pics!
That's called CRS.......... n/tby Grumpy
Thanks to Don, his wife, and all else who made this weekend special. Enjoyed meeting all you guys and gals I have only met on the Board. Wish all could have come. So many personalities and all were enjoyable actually. Grumpy, thanks for allowing me to view some excellent pics. Nice outing too with very interesting woodland visitors who like to throw rocks and break branches!
we gonna send you to advanced map reading. BWAAAA HAHAHAHAHA
I had fun this weekend at the MS get together. And I'm glad to meet some you guys,and I hope to meet the rest of you guys at the next get together. Saturday night was wild,with the research we all went out and did. That was the first time I saw anyone get a monster to respond back at their calls. I'm going to try and do that at my little area I go out too.
It was nice seeing all of y'all at the lake this weekend. There were people from GA, OK, LA, TN & MS --hopefully I did not miss anyone.
Thanks Don Don & Nessa for the great pull pork. Someone else made the bestest peach cobbler ever!!!!
Hope to do this again soon.
I for one, had a great time. It was cool meeting everyone and I look forward to more get togethers. I;m glad I found out there are other guys around where I live that are into this, I didnt know there were so many!
it won't be as long as it was this last time before we see you and that crazy man of yours again, PROMISE.
Carson, dang sure won;t be the last time I see ya. We need to get our bunch together soon and get back down there. Gun season opens in about another month and that'll shut down my going out there so we need to plan something for a couple or 3 weeks. Maybe this time ole Tim won't be so worn out.
like to go too for sure...and I'll bring a better map this time!
screw that man, Enough camp and the hunters wont see ya!...haha I take my chances shoot me an e-mail Crsnhppr@aol.com
I got some locations near me that arent hunter logged too so we can go there anytime hit me w/ your email and Ill send you a google satellite photo
Had 3 more that had things come up so they couldn't make it to. Most people don;t think of Mississipi as a Creature hot spot but it dang sure is. I have reports from one end of the State to the other. 4 or 5 different areas have more than anywhere else and I've hit 4 of then SO FAR. We be back out again in about 3 weeks, weather permitting.
Had a blast! DonDon is still the Pull Pork King!
Heard some bionic bird sounds and had a rock thrown at us. It was great meeting folks and seeing some old faces.
Great turn out too!
I only took a few...
We had a fun time! Hope to do it again soon!
Edith loved the lake, we may go back and camp in November.
Check out this link http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/10/05/siberian-snowman_n_994268.html#s388533
As usual, American scientists looking for bigfoot are heading to the wrong place....Siberia!! Hell if they just allocated the needed funds to find the creature in the States the whole mystery could be solved!! I guess they just need a government funded trip to one of the largest and mostly uninhabited regions of the world. Enjoy it you egg headed stooges!!
I saw no mention of American "scientists"...either by name or institution...only Coleman. And he wanted them to pay his travel expenses to come to their conference.
This is just a PR piece for Coleman to keep his name and "museum" in the media....no doubt to legitimize his request for funds from potential private donors.
Just more talk...no substance.
Daughter called and she goes into the hospital at 6 AM in the morning for them to induce labor!!!!!! Can't wait to start spoiling a grand daughter
There's nothing like being a grand-parent. You spoil 'em and get to send them home.
Congrats bro!by SAsquatcher
That's right,,spoil her rotten and send her back home to momma and daddy!
We have one 7 years old and another on the way-great , especially at the end of the day when they are returned! Nah, we love em TOO much!
Wishing everybody a quick and uneventful recovery. If you ever get into a "disagreement" with your grandchilds momma you can do what my momma used to do to get "even" with my sister. Right before she dropped her grandaughter off with my sister she would give her 4 oz. of coke and a piece of hard candy. This would inevitably lead to an angry phone call from my sister accusing my mom of getting her all "wound up" before dropping her off. My mom would ofcourse deny everything and add that she was a perfect angel with her the whole day! LOL!
Congrats. To you and the family.
Just received a phone call...by Monster Hunter
One of my contacts called saying she just saw a Monster standing in about the same place she saw one several weeks back...while talking with her she walked back out and said this Monster was still bent over...she could see mass and the legs were spread apart but she couldn't see its face...the Monster, according to what she could tell me by items I know of reference, was standing/squatting within 60 to 70 feet of her...while still on the phone observing this Monster I had her make a scan of the area looking for dark spots...she said she couldn't see anything dark...
This is not the same Monster she saw several weeks back...the one she saw previously to this one had a grey beard...though she couldn't see the face, any details, she said she knew it was a different Monster...
Here's the deal...both she and her neighbor are hearing unusual noises around their homes...her neighbor hears a metal pounding, briefly, and is finding tracks in the sand...estimated at 17 and 19 inches...her neighbors storm door has damage...screen is torn and screws pulled out by force...
I plan on going down Thursday if possible or maybe Friday on my way to MS to rearrange a few cameras and hang a game camera..oh and BTW...while making her scan she said she could see a deer stand, metal type, next to the pine thicket...I know for fact there were not any deer stands there nor are there that many deer to hunt...
Another important item...the Monster she has seen and saw today are in this same area where I don't have any camera coverage...about a thirty ft. span plus a low limb hanging tree blocking the area...
you said you may have a handheld video camera for her to use. Too bad she wasn't using a cell phone with a camera on it at the the time she was speaking to you and could have captured a picture of the monster. Are you taking fried chicken along with you for the monsters...with the change in the weather they may be feeling hungry?
I may take some of the Southern Classic with me...by Monster Hunter
While talking to the lady earlier she did mention about the last chicken box that we couldn't find...Josh and I gave the place a pretty good walk through without finding anything but a few balls...one ball came from the pool with me thinking the wind...no idea about the other...
She and I did talk about placing the chicken on the trailer...day time photos, game camera, chicken is there...two hours later, day time photos, and the chicken is gone...and no video of anything getting the chicken...that's where I plan on putting up a game camera once again if I take chicken with me...better game camera with a one second sleep mode before activating...
I will also let her use my other digital camera that I haven't used...may not be smart enough to use it myself let alone show her how...I wish she would use one of my motion cameras...I have a Hi-8 and a digital but there are just to many buttons to push to get everything activated and adjusted for distance...
jim i do believe they are bad having lots of prints in the sand lots of hollering late at night monday i was sitting on my front porch i heard what sounded like a large limb break and the god awfuly smell, it came from toward the shed , i know it was one of them , so i went in the house, tell me something why are there so many here? what is attracking them to this place? let me know your threoy on that get back with me on it when u can
I was hoping your cameras caught something this time. Please keep us posted...inquiring minds need to know!
Btw...My husband George had a heart attack on Wednesday and I had to call the ambulance to get him to the hospital just 2 blocks down the street from where we live. Man...talk about scary! I could of lost my best friend. Well, he got to come home this evening...he put up a big fuss...his bed was too uncomfortable and the place was too noisy for a decent night's sleep.( For anyone who doesn't know George he is a quadriplegic and he hasn't been in a hospital overnight since he broke his neck 35 years ago.) He is so happy to be home and so am I! He contributes his heart attack to getting very upset at our son the night before...he THINKS that may have triggered it the next morning...so all you guys if your in your 50's don't get really upset by life's little aggravations...like aggravating teenagers. It's just not worth it...in fact it may kill you.
Thanks for letting us know and I hope George feels better soon. My dad had heart trouble when he was around 66, got a bypass operation and lived another 20+ years. They've made EVEN more advancements in the treatment of heart disease his my dad's bypass operation. Tell him to take care...
Sharon and Gary Warren
aka RubyRed and Silver Fox
George is happy to be back home from his hospital experience. He hates hospitals! Beds are too uncomfortable and the place too noisy for a decent night's sleep.The last time he was in a hospital it was 35 years ago when he broke his neck.
He's back to feeling his grumpy old self again.
Thanks for the report. M.C.. Heard earlier today from my Cousin. He saw 2. While Bow-Hunting about 5pm.. He was in a ground blind, over-looking the head waters of the Colorado-River in Borden County.
He was on a slope about 300yards away. One was "Really Big, and the other one almost asa large." Moving fast down the river. Or what is left of it.
They see them 1 or 2 times this time of years up there.
On the camp out will anyone have a laptop?
Should be several Lap tops...by Monster Hunter
we had to wipe it blank and needs an operating system
I should have mine
Will there be Wi-Fi there?
...the expert a question this weekend will have to save 'em for next year. I'm the Bigfoot Expert, not the Dodge truck transmission expert. too bad, too. I've missed the last few weve had. maybe next year. I'm gonna go snivel now.
I guess since you can't make it...by Monster Hunter
Folks can post their questions here on the forum Dew...
Seems like,,,,by SAsquatcher
You could have hooked a ride with Jim???
was looking forward to ya being there
Hey Dew.by SAsquatcher
email me your phone number plz.
They ha a good article about entitled The Island Of Doctor Ivanov. It was about the russian scientist Dr. Ilya Ivanovich, that tried to crossbreed humans and great Apes (Humanzee). Pretty neat. YEH, I read the articles AND the funnies. It went on to say that they're pretty sure they did succeed but killed the fetus. They never did say anything for sure but hinted real hard at it.
Playboy has articles???LOL
The real SHOCKER is,,,by SAsquatcher
Don read one,,LOL!
Just kidding bro!
A genuine Yeti-mania...by Monster Hunter
I've been remiss in not thanking all of the great "brothers" and "sisters" on this MB who expressed their condolences to Gary for the passing of his dad. We are both doing very well and agree with all of those who expressed the sentiment that his dad is at rest and in a much better place than we are currently. So true. I'll never forget what Brother Campbell, the minister of Westbury Baptist Church said at my own father's funeral in 2000: "your brother, father and friend, E.M. Fendely, had a better day today than any of you and a better day yesterday, too. Tomorrow will be even better for him, so don't grieve too deeply. He'll be waiting near one of Heaven's gates for you and may even be counting off the days. You will see your dad again, Sharon. Let not your heart be troubled." So good that I wrote it down and committed it to memory.
But the kind wishes and prayers of good friends ARE always appreciated.
We love all of you,
Sharon and Gary Warren (aka RubyRed and Silver Fox)
With recent advances and revalations in DNA (assuming they are true) to be revealed as well as the research and work from the NABS guys. I am not too sure killing one of these things is ethical honestly. If we look @ the fossil record, there were numerous sub species of great apes, and homonids (the precursors of modern day man). It wouldnt be out of the question evolutionarily speaker for a homind similar to man to have evolved right beside him and remain hidden, naturally we (modern day man) have dominated our world and this "cousin" would have to remain hidden, adapt and learn to blend in w/ his surroundings.
This of course is hypothetical at this point in time regarding the subject, just as is the theory it is an animal. However Indians regarded the being as belonging to a "tribe", and they didnt go around saying that bears lived in tribes or deer lived in tribes, they recognized tribes as a culure and society just like how they said white man was a tribe, so we have to remember the origins and wording the native americans used and remember that just because they lived in the wild they weren't completely inept at catagorizing intelligence.
Just food for thought, I'm on the fence about this, but If I had one in my crosshairs I would certainly think twice about pulling the trigger and the possible implications of turning in a body that produced human DNA to a degree...
The Animal we got a shot at back in 2003.by SAsquatcher
We got blood grouping results back and they were in the (Primate group A) range which is in the Chimp and Orang family.
The animal got away but left blood behind.
was is Autosomal DNA, X Chromosome DNA, Y Chromosome DNA, or Mitochondrial DNA also what were the specifics on the mutation and halotype. As you know Different testing yields differed results.
Monster Hunter can probably tell you a bit more about that than me but I just know that I was there when the animal was shot and I saw the blood and I heard the results when Jim got them back.
btw, if i were going hunting for Sas, i'd personally use a .375 H&H...no chance at escape
has probably gotten more men killed in the dark continent than any other Big Bore Cartridge.
large animals don't cotton to being shot at by anything. they certainly dont "Bang, Flop".
that you have to worry about. It's the other1 to 10 that are in the area that'll get ya. LOL I'd be willing to bet that nights story gets told this coming weekend.
your right, just like in the supposed "sierra kills" event, after the one was shot, two more were around, 1 charging the guy, personally If I could bring a gun this weekend , it'd be my SASS in .308 w/ its twenty round magazine stacked w/ my Barnes TSX's...that not being the case you better believe ive gotta bowie knife the size of ole' Jim's.
You'd better bring a bigger gun than that!by SAsquatcher
300 mag or .4570 to start.
I think a 12 gauge chambered for a minimum of 3 inch magnums might do the trick if they are in close.
I like to load mine, Buckshot, slug buckshot, slug,,that way I get pretty good coverage.
Just be sure to save the last round for yourself.....in case your position is overrun
Although older .308 loads are comparably low-power, modern technology has done wonders for the .308 Winchester. There has always been a great deal of interest in getting as much from the .308 as possible because the design of the cartridge itself is very efficient, and lends to consistent and superior accuracy. These days, most ammo manufacturers offer premium .308 ammo that meets or exceeds muzzle velocities of 30-06 ammo. Loads that deliver over a ton and a half of knockdown power at the muzzle are readily available for the .308. For example, Federal's Premium High Energy load for the 165 grain bullet in the .308 has a MV of 2,870 fps and a ME of 3,020 ft lbs. This is enough to take a grizzly, and has done so many times.
For me though, crawling through tight brush in dim light calls for a 12 gauge and a large caliber sidearm.
Black magic load in a 3 inch mag. Isn't it 600 grains of lead? LOL Suckers are huge
Me too Don.by SAsquatcher
And my 30.06
If that combo can't knock em down,I'm in the wrong field.
Hell I believe that you could knock em down with a 30-30 if you place your shot just right but I want to knock them off their feet as well.
was/is a no go.
it wasn't up for the task. neither was the shooter.
a .308 was never designed for 1000lb animals.
hire me for the job, not to toot my horn, but I've taken advanced marksman classes as well as private ballistic applications by a former USMC sniper. I can hit the nuts off a squirrel @ 800 yards, a head shot on a head thats 16"x10" @ under 300 yards wouldn't be a problem at all, then you just use a bullet thats got enough bite, like those Barnes TSX's I load. Truts me you can kill anything you want w/ a .308 other than some of the larger African animals , as long as shot placement is surgical.
thats what my rifle is, like I said 1 surgically placed .308 round can stop anything you want,..but just in case 19 more will definitly do the job.
for the record, sniper boi is the one who took the shot at about 10 yards from a 91 series.
not a lot of sniping done at first down distance. don't brag too much about the sniper set up. several of the posters here have BTDT.
Like I have always said,,,by SAsquatcher
Pretty is as pretty does!
Drop a monster with it, then we'll talk.
That guy back in 03 should have unloaded on that sucker, maybe with multiple shots he would have got the job done,,oh well,,shoulda, coulda, woulda, I guess.
The shooter.by SAsquatcher
back in 2003 had a .308,,too light and not enough shots!
you see one, look around you.
Brush hunting...by Monster Hunter
A shotgun hands down...rifles in an open area are fine but in areas that I'm in...nothing but a shotgun...Knowing how quick the Monsters are...before you have time to place a shot with a rifle in this brush the Monster is in the next county or breaking your neck...the most effective round for a shotgun up close with a Monster coming to you is bird shot...wonder why?...
Which brings me to another item that IMO is a waste of money...NV of any kind...Monsters don't usually walk the open areas remaining in the thick brushy areas or in timber with a heavy canopy...Thermal is the only way to fly IMHO...buying and owning equipment is great and it's IMO like buying binoculars to become a bird watcher hoping you see something...you want to see a Monster go into an area of activity and keep going during the day time...you'll see one or some...you want to hunt for harvest at night...thermal weapon site...
Gen 3's aren't bad as long as you're in an open pasture or a open hardwood bottom and the leaf canopy is gone. Then you'll have to have a decent ammount of Ambiant light. Doesn't take a full moon to use them without the IR on but it does take NO leaf cover and alot of star light to see past 100 feet. 100 feet sounds like alot but if they're behind bushes or some obstruction, you won't see them with even gen 3's. It's actually frustrating as all get out to hear something walking bipedally at night with them on and you can't see them at say 100 feet.
a shameless salesman when I'm playing on stage now that I've released my new CD so what the heck, I may as well tell you folks too.
14 original songs, recorded with a producer and some great bluegrass musicians. Hopefully the Mod will give you my email address if you are interested in one. It's getting some good reviews and I'm kinda proud of it. Thanks Mod for this commercial break!
Post the URL T...by Monster Hunter
or an email address...
Mr. T's URL to purchase a CD...by Monster Hunter
Kind of hurt T...I wasn't listed as one of your "major" influences...
BTW folks...one thing that is important to all our forum members IMO is to support each others endeavors...read T's bio...if that interests you purchase his CD...
Just to clarify a point.by SAsquatcher
We (The GCBRO) are proudly working to prove the existance of these creatures by whatever means possible, which means bringing one in either tranquilized, caged or dead.
It is our opinion that no species has ever been proven without providing a specimen!
We are a pro-kill group which means that we endorse the idea that nothing will ever be proven without providing a body first, OR if you want to try and capture one live, be our guest but these critters are very elusive.
The point is that video and hair and scat and even blood samples prove NOTHING without a body to link it all to.
After a body is provided,THEN and only then will we be able to adequately study their habits and habitat range and so on, otherwise it will just go on like it has with hoaxers and goofballs making all kinds of claims while real researchers take the heat from their "Friends and even family and co-workers".
and sad to say it...
Well...guess I'll...by Monster Hunter
take my video system down and shxx can my game cameras...those who do understand the difficulty...those who don't have no idea...
What I believe to be an ideal situation...good quality pictures and video...then a corpse...no denying a group of these Monsters thrive in the rural and wilderness areas of our country...
I didn't mean it like that Jim.by SAsquatcher
Good video is good evidence, please don't get me wrong, I just meant that the ULTIMATE goal is gonna be a body.
I meant that to the "Scientific Community" video and hair and scat and even blood samples prove NOTHING without a body to link it all to.
Video and hair and blood and so on ARE all evidence for sure don't get me wrong but when a body is produced then all the pieces of the puzzle will fit together.
I guess what I am trying to say is all those things are good and I don't want to take away from any of that one bit, BUT, the body will be the final proof as far as the world and the skeptics and the scientific community are concerned.
population would never get to see the body so the folks who think everything is a damn conspiracy wouldn't believe it. Especially if the govt. tried to shut down a couple million acres of forest as an excuse for bf habitat. You'd probably need a bunch of bodies. I understand what you're saying though and you are probably right.
I know a lady who still doesn't believe that we have landed on the moon!
My point is that no matter what you do there will still be some skeptics.
Google the "Flat earth society" there are still folks that believe the world is flat and there is nothing that you can do to convince them otherwise either!
in Cardiff, Wales back in 1971 when on a tour through the British Isles. Loved talking to her. Then not an hour later, met another Welsh lady in the same coffee shop in the same town that blamed the wet summer weather on "them Americans who stirred up the dust on the moon." It was priceless to hear her talk; of course, WE didn't tell her we were from the U.S.A.
that I could care less about the scientific community...personally I don't need a corpse to poke around on...I have seen them with my eyes on more then several occasions so I definitely know they exist...as far as knowing close to exactly what they are would possibly come from a corpse but lets' remember the differences in digits both hands and feet along with foot structure...a continuous study would be damn near impossible...we can't study something we can't find...kind of like passing a law for protection...why?...
Hunters/researchers/field investigators claim to see "something" unusual...maybe a Monster or possibly another animal...add some imagination and you now have a Monster...I take every report I read or receive with a grain of salt unless I personally know the reporting parties and the areas the reports come from...misidentification, hoaxes with some people completely full of crap reporting seeing Monsters...every broken limb, rock stacks, strange sound or noise, scuff marks, dark object in their mind is a Monster without knowing what they are doing along with incompetent investigation...
I agree with you in part BUT.by SAsquatcher
I know that you personally have had experiences as have I and Bobby and Don and Michael and others, I'm just talking about what this Organization and website is all about and that is discovery.
It's not about proving to ourselves but to the world that these things do in fact exist, that is the cornerstone of the GCBRO.
You may not need a body to poke at but if we are ever gonna prove our case scientifically then we are going to have to put our money where our mouth is!
Personally, I get tired of people telling me that we will never provide a body because there "Ain't no such thing as Bigfoot",Sure I know that there is but the burden of proof is on me since I am the one making the claims.
It seems like the enthusiasm to prove our case has diminished for some reason which is sad.
And please don't get me wrong!by SAsquatcher
I know that you spend hours and hours and a small fortune in gas and money and time going to these areas and setting up cameras and talking to folks and all, and it is very greatly appreciated!
I'm just saying that is getting to be time to do a hunt as well.
I'm game Rick...by Monster Hunter
Find us a place to hunt...easier said then done right...
Sort of.by SAsquatcher
I think we have some untapped resources on the East Texas side near you that may hold some promise but I would be willing to travel a little bit as well.
I am certainly not,,,by SAsquatcher
Trying to put the ball in your court Jim but there are other members as well that could contribute.
I agree 100% it should not be all on you, hopefully some others will step up to bat as well.
Once again Rick...by Monster Hunter
we are not obligated to prove anything to anyone...
say the same thing about video. A GOOD, CLEAR video of bf acting like bf would go a long way in regards to proof. And I don't mean video like Patty who's just walking away like any dork in a suit would do.
Yeah I guess,,,by SAsquatcher
I have to be real careful how I phrase things.
I am very proud of Jim and the work he is doing and had done trying to get video of these animals and when a body is produced, it will validate all of the pieces of the puzzle.
I merely was saying that all the evidence is the icing on the cake but a body is the cake itself.
and I think everyone understood and agreed with what you were saying. It just brought up other interesting points. It was a good post I thought.
I agree. I don't really care who believes and who doesn't. I'm done with trying to convince ANYONE and have been for quite some time. My fiance thinks I'm a little off and that is just fine with me. I know what I know.
Video & film will not prove the existence of BF but it is an excellent tool for the researcher. Even if you never film a BF you can document what you were doing and how you did it. It helps establish location, environment, and patterns. But like any tool anyone can own one. Just as anyone can own a skil saw, but that doesn't mean they know how to build a house.
Use your camera as the tool it is. Document your research and if you happen to get one on film or a good photo, use it to enhance your research. It is proof for you of what you saw, how it moved and acted. Plus if you video your actions in context it can establish time, date, where, when and an assortment of information that will back up your sighting.
Photos and video can establish over time how an area changes, trails and disturbances in the area. It can put information in context as new discoveries are made.
I'm working on a Conundrums episode where I will go into this in detail. I hope to have it done soon.
above and beyond what any other group is doing is that you have moved beyond trying to prove these creatures exist. I think it is more important to find out about the behaviors of these things rather than trying to prove they exist. I was talking to J. Meldrum about these creatures and all he wanted was scat and footprints. I'm sorry guys, but physical evidence like that is what is left after these creatures are long gone. Besides, I do not personally need a hair sample, scat, or footprint casts when I already know these creatures exist.
The best way to find these animals or other bands of these animals is to know what they look like and how they act in their environment. That is why I think Monster Hunter's work is so important. He is not sticking to a single group of these creatures. He is working multiple groups. Meldrum would be better off trying to find the animal and not the foot prints but he doesn't know what they look like except for the Patty film and he doesn't know how to find them because he doesn't know anything about their behavior or intelligence.
That is where the rest of the scientific community will be also once these creatures are "discovered". They will have the body of a creature they won't know anything about.
My Bigfoot encounters are being made into a movie. George E Fernandez is my Producer and Canopy Road Pictures is making it. This is a great investment opportunity for people who believe in bigfoots.
were your encounters legit? proof? substance?
I wanna get Robert Rodriguez to do mine,,,,by SAsquatcher
I can just picture Danny Trejo and Cheech Marin playing the parts of Jim and Bobby,,Of course Antonio Banderez will play me and Quintin Tarantino will be Don Don!
I think I'll call it,,,El Chango!
Just kidding folks, if you want to do a movie,,go for it.
How much money are you looking for ?
Here's the deal on the Monster the lady saw...by Monster Hunter
It came up between two of the cameras...less then 30 feet separates the distance these two cameras cover...one camera pointed in the right direction but there is a large bushy tree that blocks out any images where apparently the Monster walked up...I've watched the time frames the lady told me several times back and forth and no Monster...I will try the next day to make sure it wasn't Monday but Tuesday...
BTW...she called me yesterday and informed me she saw the grey bearded Monster standing close or next to the now dry pond...she also told me the next door neighbors husband did find tracks but didn't see a Monster...
Apparently so Don...by Monster Hunter
Next time I go down I'll point the cameras in different angles making sure there will be no separation in video...I did this originally but changes my plan which still wouldn't have covered the area the Monster came...guess I'll have to add more cameras...
lend her a good camera? She keeps seeing them but can't take a photo? Are you sure she's being on the level with you? I hope you're not going through all this work/travel for nothing.
Yes she is an honest person T...by Monster Hunter
Her neighbor sent me pictures of tracks yesterday...I have pictures of Monsters there myself...found many prints and impressions...
After receiving the pictures of the tracks left in sand I called...loud metal sounding noise woke her and her husband up the night before...they are hearing screams and howls...the tracks were leading to her side door with her unsure if this attempted to get into the house and the noise heard...
What's kind of weird...watching video my cameras begin to distort flashing off and on one night...this goes on for more then several hours before it straightens out...I have no idea what causes this thinking it could be an electrical problem since their electricity has been going off and on occasion...
Still no Monsters on video...
may lie upon intersecting laye-lines, have underground water or underground limestone deposits. At anyrate, the land she lives on sounds as if is very interesting paranormally speaking...I hope I'm not coming off like I believe BF is some sort of paranormal entity. To the contrary; I believe these critters are real animals but whose to say they aren't attracted to places where the very ground beneath their over-large feet hums or pulsates with energy surges? I will now put away my crystal ball...LOL
what state is this in?
Louisiana...n/tby Monster Hunter
I was suppose to go on the North Georgia expedition the BFRO did here a few wks ago. Anyways there was a long "class A" sighting apparently and tons of "class b" sightings...Couldn't go for financial reasons. But given the BFRO's track record I gotta take their claims w/ a grain of salt, but still...
The researcher that headed this NE Georgia outing is a stand up guy, his knowledge of the subject goes without questions and i've learned alot from the guy. When I say I take what bfro says w/ a grain of salt, I mean in regards to previous reports ive read from prior attendees that were less than flattering. That said Matt ,who actually knows what he is talking about, would be more than credible in terms of his reports of sightings or goings on that were indeed squatchy during that expedition. We have talked at length about the subject and he's a stand up guy and one of the few in the field who's head isn't shove up his *** that is after it for the money. So thats that really..I still wish I had gone , sucks being poor...anyways Im off to the woods right now so wish me luck..going to check on the honey hole.
than you'll ever learn from that bunch. Every little thing that goes bump in the night isn't a bigfoot.
i'd agree with your last statement 100%, I also hate it when people take pictures and claim there a group of individuals in the picture based on ...well i dont know what like shadows and dark places and camera's that usually dont have a high resolution, or video's where they point out individuals that really can't be seen..whats the point? you know? I'f its not a clear picture or image then saying its one is really pointless and your not helping anything out.
As far as learning more this coming weekend,...I'm purely scientific, ill entertain claims , theories, and opinions but because this subject lacks real hard-core proven facts other than footprints, hair, crap images and video; as well as scientifically proven behavior, I only still take it at its most basic applicable level which in the end is usually just theory. There's only a few people out there who have a very good full scope and grasp of this animal and or homonid ; namely John Green, Peter Byrne, and Dr. John Bindernagle.
I agree with you partially.by SAsquatcher
But there are a couple of names that I would add and 1 that I would subtract.
Have been around.these creatures alot more than any you just named.. i dont just mean people who have talked to others who have had encounters. I mean people that have been up close and personal with them on several occasions.
Absolutely Don!by SAsquatcher
Seeing is believing!
There are a lot of "Authors" and self proclaimed "Experts" who have never even been close to one of these animals, I tend to believe the folks that have had first hand experiences!
I wasn't gonna name names but I think some top names should be, Bobby and Jim and Timberghosts just to name a few!
These guys have had first hand encounters on more than one occasion, they KNOW what these animals are because they have watched them and observed them doing what they do!
The top guys in this field are the ones that get out there and hit the woods and know how to look for sign of these animals without walking all over evidence or running away the first time something growls at you!
These things WILL come within close proximity and try to either distract you or scare the s*** out of you but these guys have the stainless steel cojones to hang tough!
These guys have been doing this for years and in my opinion if you listen to them with a teachable attitude, will put you on a Monster!
These are the guys I listen to!
well i sure hope I can join you guys as much as I can when you go out b/c i'm dying to have a first hand encounter and pics and sounds.
Is where i had my first no doubt sighting. Ive been skunked before. Seen something large breaking through.the bushes with me.getting a glimpse. Had things thrown at me n been screamed at but this was my first no doubt look Maybe well.get lucky cause they have been seen where were goung
I don't want DonDon sneaking up on me while I'm relaxing at the campsite......
I know you tote 2 or 3 guns and I might get shot LOL. We got everything about packed at the house. Research box cleaned out, cookers ready to go and even got the Jambalaya base made. LOL I do have to get up early and go get my field crews out friday morning but I'll be off work by 9 and on my way down by 10 that morning
Will be leaving here about 6am your time with about a 6 hour drive so we should be there around noon.... will be hauling the 24' travel trailer since they have hookups, us OLD Folk need our comfort...............
I'll be in a tent
one should always yell out, "Hello the Campsite" before hiking out of the woods suddenly. Grumpy, please say hello to your lovely wife from Ruby and Silver. We hope that everyone attending the MS event has a great time. IF we ever get ANY money to spare, we will get to come to events like this one but something always happens to prevent attendance? One year it was my dental issues and now it's no job and lots of bills. I hope one day to put my money and time where my mouth is...Silver Fox needs to "see" one of these critters and I'd like to do the same. The closest I've come to having a bona-fide BF experience is 'having feelings of being watched,' hearing tree knocking in Oklahoma after we left the campsite and seeing shadows move in a dark forest.
Have a great day! And an even better weekend!
I would love it for you two to have fun and a good time. Heck...I wish it upon myself also. Maybe some day it could happen for both of us. And I would love to meet you.
Would love to meet you and hook up with all of the wonderful folks who contribute to this MB. Now, if you want to hear some really good, scary stuff coming to a camp out is the place to come. WE will make it one day and probably NOT that far off. Things are beginning to 'pop' job wise here; keeping fingers (and toes) crossed for Silver's job search. Besides I still remember that I promised to be monster 'bait' at the BBQ...
wait! I'm gonna try and get down friday eve but may be early Sat if I can't get off work early Fri.
Been waiting for a trip like this for 2 1/2 years and I'm not about to miss this one.
but make sure you have a fishing license. Lake just reopened a couple weeks ago. It's been closed for a couple years for dam repairs and the fish haven't been fished for since it closed. Well, up until a couple weeks ago anyway. Hearing LOTS of good 2 to 4 pound bass are coming out
Yep, those men you have mentioned are main stream for sure. None of them have had a sighting as far as I know but they have interviewed lots of folks (apparently) who have. They've all done a good job of keeping the subject of bf in the foreground as much as it can be in this day and age. They are all well spoken, calm and seem not to be easily led by the hoaxers.
It's great that you're going to the GCBRO get together. I wish I could go too.
I think seeing one is only a small fraction of the puzzle, I can undertand the great desire to see one because i sure as hell do, but to be able to formulate construct for being able to see and study them on a regular and often basis is the real goal. The gentlemen I listen , like you said to my knowledge as well, havent seen one or have a lengthy account of coming into contact w/ one...and they did if for more years than the heavy hitters in the biz today that are at an arms race over video and dna..i digress, those gentlemen had very good ideas and theories and contructs on behavior, habitat, social structure, biology etc etc..the REAL goods IMO in the study...I'd only hope we can get real good footage just for their sake and their eyes to see not mine.
Carson, why do you call it that? Have you had a sighting there?
no, however there are all indicators in the natural enviornment that suggest the area could be populated by a group of indivduals,not to mention a history of sightings in the area
I sent out a email to those that said they were coming and I just want to make sure that everyone got it. PLEASE email me and let me know that you got that email. IF you don't have my cell number, please email me as well and I'll get it to you.
Hope all you good folks are doing well.
Any activity in your area; from this recent
Black Bears are on the move in our area.
Fires from Arizonia, and New Mexico has pushed
them towards the Headwaters of Concho. Colorado. Along
with Spring Creek. Above San Angelo.
Wild fires...by Monster Hunter
We all need some good long rain...
The one over the stump is good, but the one in the background in the woods is even more interesting.
Look hoaxed to me Nellie...by Monster Hunter
What quadruped or biped walks like that?...none that I know of...
move in sinc with the little buck's head. I'd guess something to do with the camera.
Thought I'd post a few cam pics we've been getting. Kathy has 13 different bucks coming in to her stand....
Looks like she's gonna be doing alot of shooting and you gonna be doing alot of skinning
Really nice bucks up there, Timber. Happy hunting, when it's legal.
It's archery season...
for Elk by invitation of the Governor of Wyoming years and years ago. Kinda a challenge and gives the deer or elk a chance to run away. Are you and Kathy into bow hunting? Or do you 'kick it old school'?
Bow, black powder and rifle hunt...We own some land in the mountains that is prime deer hunting.....
I hope you can bag one of those big boys Michael!
Pretty darn neat Okiebear...by Monster Hunter
My two grandsons drive me nuts about dinosaurs...figures, movies...anything dinosaurs...
I'd really love to find something like that
The one's I've seen look more like a dogs print...by Monster Hunter
But with only five toes...years back Bobby found a large three toed track that looks somewhat like those above...not as large but similar...
Apparently I went brain dead or had a CRS moment...by Monster Hunter
Three toes not five Nellie...to much watching video for me...
Nellie, I photographed this tack years ago at MC, notice it has only 3 toe pads and the back center pad, I saw no indication of claws in dirt. Most of the other tracks were stepped on by others hiking and never saw them.
LOL...looking but didn't see...by Monster Hunter
so they walked on them...LMAO...BF hunters my axx...good catch Grumpy and a good picture...
these hikers were the wives and children out hiking during a BBQ and I hope none of our hunters were with them..... LOL this was back when the dim road still had woods on both sides..... these tracks were found when the wife and I hiked through the new growth pine thicket and came out on the road about 40 yds up from where it dead ended near the old camera box.
Oh, okay Grumpy...by Monster Hunter
Thought maybe some of our gang missed them...had full intentions of jumping their axxes in MS...LOL
my crs is messin with me...I thought that they looked a little different than that...like a raptor print with claws.
I think he said recently that those famous Glen Rose human tracks that ran along-side larger tracks of a plant-eating
dinosaur were "removed" by the Texas Park Service. Alledgedly, human beings came millions of years AFTER Brachasaurous (I'm
sure I misspelled it's name) but that raises a question about how one would explain dragons???? IF your belief system (man
didn't live at the same time as Dinos and dinos died out 65 million years ago) is sound,why destroy evidence purporting that
your belief system ISN'T correct. Oh, never mind...just answered my own question.
Beautiful cats...by Monster Hunter
but some kind of dangerous when hungry...
They don't get that big by,,,,by SAsquatcher
Being vegetarians either!
That lady did the right thing by staying inside and calling the Police, 2 big cats on an elderly lady = east meal!
Ok, im a gear head. I love technology and all aspects of it. I've been in the music prodcution biz for a while so I know audio and video stuff. Here is my wish list for equipment,..if i won the lottery or sold a kidney or something..
AstroScope for my camera:http://www.morovision.com/camera_adaptable/MVPA-915006G.htm
Thermal/NVD for navigation:http://www.opticsplanet.net/atn-fiits-14-thermal-system-with-iit.html
Car Mount Thermal http://www.opticsplanet.net/morovision-360-thermal-vision-acquisition-camera.html
I've got some mics and a laptop based recording rig I use hooked up to an inverter in my car. I use a high end studio condenser mic thar really caputres sound well. From all research indicated these animals/homonids can detect IR light sources so its optimal to use a NVD that doesnt need an additional IR source for quality imaging. Right now im trying to come up w/ a formula that will allow calculation of distance and originating decibles from an source in the field,..similar to how subamarine sonar can pinpoint sources of sound underwater.
I just returned from an outing in scott county in the Bienville around the Caney Creek area. I've notice alot of logging and clearing operations around there. These things try to stay away from that stuff as much as they can so its possible they have moved further east south east. Im not sure but I dont think these things like crossing the I-20. If you look on google satellite images the bienville's densest concentration of un-molested forest lies south of I-20 around the area I was in. Sporatic housing, dense forest inbetween. If you've read any of the recent developments regarding the federal gov't knowledge of these animals you'd maybe wonder why more sightings are in these areas specified. Perhap someone knows these things live here and they set aside the area for them to live, or at least for the possibility for them to live there.
From my contacts, my understanding is low population numbers and infrequent breeding cycles and long gestations there is always a somewhat slim chance of getting really close to them. One estimate for the population in north georgia was 15 to 20 indiviuals and that area is on a magnitude larger than the area in questions I am currently spending time in. I would make a rough guess that a population of 5 to 10 currently use or travel through the area in question with maybe a 25 to 40 mile radius of range they utilize. Its really hard to say, but those are my best guesses right now based on some very limited knowledge of the area.
Excellent list of equipment needed SquatchMS...by Monster Hunter
and as mentioned a winning lottery ticket is needed to acquire all you need...personally I disagree with the number of Monsters in each state...at one time here in NW Louisiana there were 15 to 20 different Monsters of all ages at MC...I have one picture that has 9 to 10 Monsters in it from a game camera...pictures of three or more in others with all taken at the same area...had a man call me two weeks ago who is northwest of the area has a group of five or more...talked to a friend at Home Depot with him telling me a few of his hunting buddies have seen strange creatures around their hunting areas...In the state you live in we get more then several reports a month from one end of the state to the other...If I got out and traveled my old Monster routes and talked to people there would be many more reports locally...
Unless we're dealing with time travelers or dimensional jumpers there are IMHO thousands of these Monsters roaming throughout our nation...
BTW...we are meeting in MS the 14th, 15th of this month...drop DonDon an email if you are interested in coming in for a visit...he has an email address listed in a previous post...hope to see you there...
and coming. We'll have several folks coming that are new to us
Good deal Don...by Monster Hunter
Be good to meet the new folks coming...
She'll be the one shivering and hiding behind your gun hand every time an owl hoots. LOL
would just love to help you out Bob. You know Barry has a mancrush on you. BWAA HAHAHA
Tell ya what. You hold one of Don's hands and a foot.
I will grab the other hand and a foot and we will let him tell us how cold that water is this time of the year.....
better hit the weights abit before you get here. LOL
is younger than us and will probably out run us when we try and grab him........ will probably have to resort to duct tape when he's sleeping.
Dude, I'll be 47 in 3 weeks and Barry's what, 25? He just looks old. hehe
LOL, I knew that would stir you up old friend, it's been to long since we have crawled around the woods......
and we gonna do some of that next weekend
i was gonna go poke around there today, not marathon , but some service roads nearby
I've always thought this was pretty cool.by SAsquatcher
Personally I think it's about money...by Monster Hunter
them taking ours for something that is not IMO conclusive...may be interesting but I'm not buying their gibberish...
Have you ever heard anything remotely like that while sitting down at MC Jim?
Never have Rick...by Monster Hunter
but have heard some strange gibberish...all sorts of wild axxed calls and had something holler Josh at me when I was down by the field working on some brush...
I guess the weirdest that was heard down here was one night...Bobby and Josh were in the bottoms...heard two bionic birds coming from the west...got to about where I put out the coon urine and retreated backwards calling...later that night...something was screaming bloody murder at them...Josh said it sounded like it was also beating on the trees while running...a smaller, assumed because of tone and sound, also screamed...
Josh radioed for us to come get them after something threw a stick hitting the tree Josh was in...he said he could hear the stick cutting the air while in flight...and that at times he could hear something milling around behind his tree...small limbs being broken as if being stepped on...that was the good old days...
Just sent them in an email to everyone that has send me an email saying they were coming. I THINK I got them to everyone but if you don't get a email from me, email me and let me know. Thanks guys and can't wait to see everyone.
Do they have RV pads at this lake, and where do you go / call to reserve one? I'll need electricity.
they sure do. Water and power as well. We're going back down this weekend and reserve the pavilion
that I will not be attending this outing. That dirty word has me stuck out on the West coast. We should have finished this project in Sept. Now it looks like it may be finished in November. I was looking forward to seeing you guys and sharing sasquatch. I even had permission from the boss. Maybe next time.
It's been a long time and was looking forward to chatting with ya again.