Article in todays Newspaper(web) you may find interesting...April 5 2012 at 9:17 PM
Brett Peacock (Login Wurger41)
from IP address 188.8.131.52
It about why things like this happen, and what can (or can't) be done.
Interestingly I found I have to agree with one conclusion.
"If One Goh was looking for notoriety, it didn't stick - after 24 hours his story was no longer front page news."
I'm not sure if that's a Bad thi ng or a Good thing. Columbine was headlines for months and there were at least 2 other incidents,
Copycat or not, it sure looked like it to me. This story seems to have benn swallowed up by others.
I agree, when I serached links for the story I found one page with a Joke about it already. "Seven at One Goh!", believe it or not.
Sad...sad... but at least (sick) witty.
|This message has been edited by Wurger41 from IP address 184.108.40.206 on Apr 5, 2012 9:20 PM|
The author is sadly mistaken
|April 5 2012, 10:33 PM |
Brett- I live across town from the 2nd most recnet school shootings, the ones in Chardon, Ohio. My nephew was a close personal friend of one of the students that was gunned down. In talking with my newphew, I can ASSURE you, he is not "inured" to it, nor is the entire community of Chardon.
THAT kid wasn't looking for notoriety. From what my nephew was saying, he was a kid who was looking to strike back. Strike back for all the snide remarks that were made about him. Strike back at the kid who stole his girlfriend. At the jocks who bullied him. He didn't have any way of dealing with this stuff (and sadly, I bet a few here can understand this). He took abuse, and took it, and took it. And he went home, and that was no picnic either. He had no way to tell people to stop it (that would have resulted in even more bullying). Like many, and Mr Goh as well, you only take so much before you respond. Here in the US, there is a line that nobody talks about. The "haves", and the "have nots". It's not always about money (frequently, but not always) sometimes it's about status. When you are a "have not" in the US, you can BET that someone will gleefully stick it to you to remind you. Lool at Goh- He came here, ostensibly, to get a better life. And what does he get? People making fun of his accent. People telling him he's failed, or been expelled. And a pile of debt he probably didn't have before he came here.
The article says that failure and loss are universal, and, as rational adults, we know this to be true. Having your nose rubbed in it? Well, we have alot of folks who are really, really damn good at doing that......
"The FANS are fighting back!!!"
"The SECURITY GUARDS are fighting back!!!"
"The PEANUT VENDORS are fighting back!!!"
we all eat sh_ _ before we die...but thankfully few climb a tower
|April 5 2012, 11:29 PM |
the victims are the victims not the guy who lost it... although he was a victim of something or someone...but some people are just no darned good...hitler was beaten into a coma for days as a child by his father...but get out the flamethrower...this is too close to home jim...that hurts
|This message has been edited by p38m from IP address 220.127.116.11 on Apr 6, 2012 12:38 AM|
I think the point of the article was two fold...
|April 6 2012, 3:30 AM |
First: it was Not about if People become Inured/uncaring. They do Not. I was saddened and horrified to learn of yet another such incident. It is whether the MEDIA become inured ... sadly I begin to think that they Do become uncaring and inured to such things.
By the last year of WW2 (1945) and the end of US deployment in Vietnam, a lot of war news did not even make the Front Page in the US.... and other countries.
Second: The article (but not me, personally) seems to want to blame everything BUT the gunman. (I blame the gunman, who was triggered by the reported taunts and abuse...)
A lot of folks do not have happy idyllic childhoods or school days. 99.99% of them do not pick up a gun to do something about it.
BUT a significant percentage pf the ones that Do So, are in the US. And that may have something to do with US Culture AND the liberal gun laws (compared to many other countries.)
I've always thought that a contributing factor may be the "Clique culture" the US allows (or even encourages via media and accepted "social norms") in their High Schools and Colleges. Cliques breed bullying in spades, the experience is fairly universal.
(BTW, in NZ a College is a secondary (Teenage)level school and is used interchangeably with High School)
oh your all ways making cracks at america... wake up hoss this thing is worldwide
|April 6 2012, 10:58 AM |
Altona schoolhouse shooting
Centennial Secondary School shooting
St Pius X High School School
Sturgeon Creek High School
École Polytechnique Massacre
Concordia University massacre
W. R. Myers High School shooting
Dawson College shooting
C. W. Jefferys Collegiate Institute shooting
Bendale Business and Technical Institute shooting
Central Technical School shooting
Bremen school shooting
Kungälv school Shooting
Cologne school massacre
Eppstein school shooting
Rauma school shooting
Aarhus University Shooting
Dunblane, United Kingdom
ROC de Leijgraaf
0 killed, 5 wounded
The Hague, Netherlands
Beslan school hostage crisis
Grund- und Hauptschule von Rötz shooting
Rötz (Oberpfalz), Germany
Geschwister Scholl School attack
Jokela school shooting
Kauhajoki school shooting
Winnenden school shooting
OAED Vocational College shooting
Kanebogen elementary school shooting
University of Pécs shooting
2012 Midi-Pyrénées shootings
 South America, Asia and Australia
May 15, 1974
March 30, 1997
University of the Philippines shooting
Quezon City, Philippines
February 19, 1999
La Trobe University shooting
August 3, 1999
Monash University shooting
October 21, 2002
Pak Phanang school shooting
Nakhon Si Thammarat, Thailand
June 6, 2003
Islas Malvinas School shooting
Carmen de Patagones, Argentina
September 28, 2004
Beirut Arab University shooting
January 25, 2007
Euro International school shooting
December 12, 2007
Mercaz HaRav shooting
March 6, 2008
Azerbaijan State Oil Academy shooting
April 30, 2009
Rio de Janeiro, Brazil
April 7, 2011
|This message has been edited by p38m from IP address 18.104.22.168 on Apr 6, 2012 11:03 AM|
Thanks for the perspective....nt
|April 6 2012, 11:45 AM |
|April 6 2012, 5:54 PM |
No fair confusing people with facts!!