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April 5 2012 at 9:17 PM

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http://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/news/article.cfm?c_id=2&objectid=10796751

It about why things like this happen, and what can (or can't) be done.
Interestingly I found I have to agree with one conclusion.

"If One Goh was looking for notoriety, it didn't stick - after 24 hours his story was no longer front page news."
I'm not sure if that's a Bad thi ng or a Good thing. Columbine was headlines for months and there were at least 2 other incidents,
Copycat or not, it sure looked like it to me. This story seems to have benn swallowed up by others.

I agree, when I serached links for the story I found one page with a Joke about it already. "Seven at One Goh!", believe it or not.
Sad...sad... but at least (sick) witty.

Brett


    
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Jim Mc
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The author is sadly mistaken

April 5 2012, 10:33 PM 

Brett- I live across town from the 2nd most recnet school shootings, the ones in Chardon, Ohio. My nephew was a close personal friend of one of the students that was gunned down. In talking with my newphew, I can ASSURE you, he is not "inured" to it, nor is the entire community of Chardon.

THAT kid wasn't looking for notoriety. From what my nephew was saying, he was a kid who was looking to strike back. Strike back for all the snide remarks that were made about him. Strike back at the kid who stole his girlfriend. At the jocks who bullied him. He didn't have any way of dealing with this stuff (and sadly, I bet a few here can understand this). He took abuse, and took it, and took it. And he went home, and that was no picnic either. He had no way to tell people to stop it (that would have resulted in even more bullying). Like many, and Mr Goh as well, you only take so much before you respond. Here in the US, there is a line that nobody talks about. The "haves", and the "have nots". It's not always about money (frequently, but not always) sometimes it's about status. When you are a "have not" in the US, you can BET that someone will gleefully stick it to you to remind you. Lool at Goh- He came here, ostensibly, to get a better life. And what does he get? People making fun of his accent. People telling him he's failed, or been expelled. And a pile of debt he probably didn't have before he came here.

The article says that failure and loss are universal, and, as rational adults, we know this to be true. Having your nose rubbed in it? Well, we have alot of folks who are really, really damn good at doing that......



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bob mack
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we all eat sh_ _ before we die...but thankfully few climb a tower

April 5 2012, 11:29 PM 

the victims are the victims not the guy who lost it... although he was a victim of something or someone...but some people are just no darned good...hitler was beaten into a coma for days as a child by his father...but get out the flamethrower...this is too close to home jim...that hurts

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I think the point of the article was two fold...

April 6 2012, 3:30 AM 

First: it was Not about if People become Inured/uncaring. They do Not. I was saddened and horrified to learn of yet another such incident. It is whether the MEDIA become inured ... sadly I begin to think that they Do become uncaring and inured to such things.
By the last year of WW2 (1945) and the end of US deployment in Vietnam, a lot of war news did not even make the Front Page in the US.... and other countries.

Second: The article (but not me, personally) seems to want to blame everything BUT the gunman. (I blame the gunman, who was triggered by the reported taunts and abuse...)
A lot of folks do not have happy idyllic childhoods or school days. 99.99% of them do not pick up a gun to do something about it.
BUT a significant percentage pf the ones that Do So, are in the US. And that may have something to do with US Culture AND the liberal gun laws (compared to many other countries.)

I've always thought that a contributing factor may be the "Clique culture" the US allows (or even encourages via media and accepted "social norms") in their High Schools and Colleges. Cliques breed bullying in spades, the experience is fairly universal.
(BTW, in NZ a College is a secondary (Teenage)level school and is used interchangeably with High School)

Brett.


 
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bob mack
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oh your all ways making cracks at america... wake up hoss this thing is worldwide

April 6 2012, 10:58 AM 

Canada



Name

Location

Date

Year

Death toll

Notes




Altona schoolhouse shooting

Altona, Manitoba

October 10

1902

2




Centennial Secondary School shooting

Brampton, Ontario

May 28

1975

2

[79]



St Pius X High School School

Ottawa, Ontario

October 27

1975

1

[80]



Sturgeon Creek High School

Winnipeg, Manitoba

October

1978

1 [81]



École Polytechnique Massacre

Montreal, Quebec

December 6

1989

14

[82]



Concordia University massacre

Montreal, Quebec

August 24

1992

4

[83]



W. R. Myers High School shooting

Taber, Alberta

April 28

1999

1

[84]



Dawson College shooting

Montreal, Quebec

September 13

2006

1

[85]



C. W. Jefferys Collegiate Institute shooting

Toronto, Ontario

May 23

2007

1

[86]



Bendale Business and Technical Institute shooting

Toronto, Ontario

September 16

2008

0

[87]



Central Technical School shooting

Toronto, Ontario

September 30

2010

0

[88]



[edit] Europe



Name

Location

Date

Year

Death toll

Notes




Bremen school shooting

Bremen, Germany

June 20

1913

5




Kungälv school Shooting

Kungälv, Sweden

March 4

1961

1

[89]



Cologne school massacre

Cologne, Germany

June 11

1964

10




Eppstein school shooting

Eppstein, Germany

June 3

1983

6




Rauma school shooting

Rauma, Finland

January 24

1989

2

[90]



Aarhus University Shooting

Aarhus, Denmark

April 5

1994

3

[91]



Dunblane massacre

Dunblane, United Kingdom

March 13

1996

18

[92]



ROC de Leijgraaf

Veghel, Netherlands

December 7

1999

0 killed, 5 wounded





Erfurt massacre

Erfurt, Germany

April 26

2002

17

[93]



Coburg shooting

Coburg, Germany

July 3

2003

1

[94]



Terra College

The Hague, Netherlands

January

2004

1

[95]



Beslan school hostage crisis

Beslan, Russia

September 1

2004

385

[96]



Grund- und Hauptschule von Rötz shooting

Rötz (Oberpfalz), Germany

March 7

2005

0

[97]



Geschwister Scholl School attack

Emsdetten, Germany

November 20

2006

1

[98]



Jokela school shooting

Tuusula, Finland

November 7

2007

9

[99]



Kauhajoki school shooting

Kauhajoki, Finland

September 23

2008

11

[100]



Winnenden school shooting

Winnenden, Germany

March 11

2009

16

[101]



OAED Vocational College shooting

Athens, Greece

April 10

2009

1



Kanebogen elementary school shooting

Harstad, Norway

April 28

2009

0

[102]



University of Pécs shooting

Pécs, Hungary

November 26

2009

1

[103]



2012 Midi-Pyrénées shootings

Toulouse, France

March 19

2012

4



[edit] South America, Asia and Australia



Name

Location

Date/Year

Death toll

Notes




Ma'alot massacre

Ma'alot, Israel

May 15, 1974

25




Sanaa massacre

Sana'a, Yemen

March 30, 1997

6

[104]



University of the Philippines shooting

Quezon City, Philippines

February 19, 1999

1

[105]



La Trobe University shooting

Melbourne, Australia

August 3, 1999

1



Monash University shooting

Melbourne, Australia

October 21, 2002

2

[106]



Pak Phanang school shooting

Nakhon Si Thammarat, Thailand

June 6, 2003

2

[107]



Islas Malvinas School shooting

Carmen de Patagones, Argentina

September 28, 2004

4

[108]



Beirut Arab University shooting

Beirut, Lebanon

January 25, 2007

4

[109]



Euro International school shooting

Gurgaon, India

December 12, 2007

1

[110]



Mercaz HaRav shooting

Jerusalem, Israel

March 6, 2008

9

[111]



Azerbaijan State Oil Academy shooting

Baku, Azerbaijan

April 30, 2009

13

[112]



Realengo massacre

Rio de Janeiro, Brazil

April 7, 2011

13

[113]



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Anonymous
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Thanks for the perspective....nt

April 6 2012, 11:45 AM 



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Hey Bob!!

April 6 2012, 5:54 PM 

No fair confusing people with facts!! happy.gif

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