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1 week down

March 27 2007 at 6:25 PM
  (Login jean20)
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It's been one week now...a week of many tears, fears, and insecurities. My H. was able to get his leave of absence approved at the University, so he won't see her twice a week. My question, is it wise of me to want to know EVERYTHING...or should just the knowledge of what happened be enough? I find myself asking a billion questions in the shower...questions I should be asking him. I don't want to send him back to her with my insecurities...but it is hard to be confident in a situation like this. I have spent hours being a detective on the internet and it is hard to get info on her...I need closure and need my questions answered. Do I push the envelope or leave well enough (for lack of a better example) alone?

Jean


    
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Ami
(Login Amistandingstill)
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Re: 1 week down

March 27 2007, 7:32 PM 

Jean,

Congradulations making it through the first week. I know this is not easy. I think it is important for the BS to know as much as they want to know. It is up to each individual BS, not the WS. A important factor in marriages that survive and thrive after infidelity, is that they talked the Affair to death, meaning the WS was forthcoming with what ever (and I mean what ever) the BS wanted to know. As I said previously, how much you need to know is up to you. I had to know every tiny last sorted and sexual detail. In the end I do not regret it, although there were times when I did. Hearing it is so hard, but we can not get over what is being kept from us.

Ami

also read this..

This is a copy of a post by Joseph, a member of the now defunct BAN Message Board. He wrote to this letter to his wife to explain why he asked for details of her affair.

To Whomever,

I know you are feeling the pain of guilt and confusion. I understand that you wish all this never happened and that you wish it would just go away. I can even believe that you truly love me and that your indiscretion hurts you emotionally much the same way it hurts me. I understand your apprehension to me discovering little by little, everything that led up to your indiscretion, everything that happened that night, and everything that happened afterwards. I understand. No one wants to have a mistake or misjudgment thrown in his or her face repeatedly. No one wants to be forced to 'look' at the thing that caused all their pain over and over again. I can actually see, that through your eyes, you are viewing this whole thing as something that just needs to go away, something that is over, that he/she doesn’t mean anything to you, so why is it such a big issue? I can understand you wondering why I torture myself with this continuously, and thinking, doesn’t he/she know by now that I love him/her? I can see how you can feel this way and how frustrating it must be. But for the remainder of this letter I’m going to ask you to view my reality through my eyes.

You were there. There is no detail left out from your point of view. Like a puzzle, you have all the pieces and you are able to reconstruct them and be able to understand the whole picture, the whole message, or the whole meaning. You know exactly what that picture is and what it means to you and if it can effect your life and whether or not it continues to stir your feelings. You have the pieces, the tools, and the knowledge. You can move through your life with 100% of the picture you compiled. If you have any doubts, then at least you’re carrying all the information in your mind and you can use it to derive conclusions or answers to your doubts or question. You carry all the 'STUFF' to figure out OUR reality. There isn’t really any information, or pieces to the puzzle that you don’t have.

Now let’s enter my reality. Let’s both agree that this affects our lives equally. The outcome no matter what it is well affect us both. Our future and our present circumstances are every bit as important to me as it is to you. So, why then is it okay for me to be left in the dark? Do I not deserve to know as much about the night that nearly destroyed our relationship as you do? Just like you, I am also able to discern the meaning of certain particulars and innuendoes of that night and just like you, I deserve to be given the opportunity to understand what nearly brought our relationship down. To assume that I can move forward and accept everything at face value is unrealistic and unless we stop thinking unrealistically I doubt our lives well ever 'feel' complete. You have given me a puzzle. It is a 1000 piece puzzle and 400 random pieces are missing. You expect me to assemble the puzzle without the benefit of looking at the picture on the box. You expect me to be able to discern what I am looking at and to appreciate it in the same context as you. You want me to be as comfortable with what I see in the picture as you are. When I ask if there was a tree in such and such area of the picture you tell me don’t worry about it, it’s not important. When I ask whether there were any animals in my puzzle you say don’t worry about it, it’s not important. When I ask if there was a lake in that big empty spot in my puzzle you say, what’s the difference, it’s not important. Then later when I’m expected to understand the picture in my puzzle you fail to understand my disorientation and confusion. You expect me to feel the same way about the picture as you do but deny me the same view as you. When I express this problem you feel compelled to admonish me for not understanding it, for not seeing it the way you see it. You wonder why I can’t just accept whatever you chose to describe to me about the picture and then be able to feel the same way you feel about it.

So, you want me to be okay with everything. You think you deserve to know and I deserve to wonder. You may honestly feel that the whole picture, everything that happened is insignificant because in your heart you know it was a mistake and wish it never happened. But how can I know that? Faith? Because you told me so? Would you have faith if the tables were turned? Don’t you understand that I want to believe you completely? But how can I? I can never know what is truly in your mind and heart. I can only observe you actions, and what information I have acquired and slowly, over time rebuild my faith in your feelings. I truly wish it were easier.

So, there it is, as best as I can put it. That is why I ask questions. That is where my need to know is derived from. And that is why it is unfair for you to think that we can effectively move forward and unfair for you to accuse me of dwelling on the past. My need to know stems from my desire to hold our world together. It doesn’t come from jealousy, it doesn’t come from spitefulness, and it doesn’t come from a desire to make you suffer. It comes from the fact that I love you. Why else would I put myself through this? Wouldn’t it be easier for me to walk away? Wouldn’t it be easier to consider our relationship a bad mistake in my life and to move on to better horizons? Of course it would, but I can’t and the reason I can’t is because I love you and that reason in itself makes all the difference in the world.

Joseph

 
 
Anonymous
(Login dancin-gal)
Healing Moderator

Re: 1 week down

March 27 2007, 7:51 PM 

Jean,
ask your H any question that you NEED to know...

I printed out Joseph"s Letter many time and gave it to my H when I needed to know something..

Ami copied the letter for you...you can also find the letter in the helpful hints on the left side of the page..

I am so happy that your H decided to back off the idea of still teaching the OW...smart decision for him and his actions are positive for you.


((((hugs)))

Pat

"Time is precious, but truth is more precious than time."

 
 
Lisa
(Login Lee66)
Member

Re: 1 week down

March 28 2007, 1:05 PM 

I am 18 months past d-day and am struggling right now with the things I do know. As Ami and Pat have said your H should answer all the questions you do have, but I personally can't stress enough, that you need to think about what you can live with after hearing the answers.

Some people told me to think of the worst answer I could possibly hear and decide if I could live with that. That helped a little, but what happened to me with several questions was that the real answer was the worst scenario I had thought of.

I can't say that in the long run when I am years out like Ami and Pat and have fully reconciled, but at this point I do have regrets about some of the things I know.

The truth isn't always easy, but hopefully in the long runs it sets us free (from the torment we are feeling.

Lisa


 
 


(Login CoralV)
Member

Re: 1 week down

March 28 2007, 1:52 PM 

Jean,

Everyone is different in what they can accept knowing after the fact or not. Some want all the sorted details and others accept knowing that an A took place.

Regardless of what you decide is best for yourself, be aware that questions will mount in your head even months later... whether you ask your husband for the answers or not is really your choice.

There are pros and cons. Weigh what is best for you.

I have thought of this quote often in my search: "The possession of knowledge does not kill the sense of wonder and mystery. There is always more mystery."

Hugs to you.

Coral

"A discovery is said to be an accident meeting a prepared mind."

 
 
Lisa
(Login Lee66)
Member

Re: 1 week down

March 28 2007, 2:03 PM 

I love the quote Coral.

The questions just never seem to end. Just when I think I have covered everything there possibly could be to know, I think of another question and have to stop myself and ask do I really want to know the answer.

 
 
Anonymous
(Login jean20)
Member

Re: 1 week down

March 28 2007, 4:02 PM 

Ami,

Thanks for the letter from Joseph, I'm printing it and keeping it in my journal where I've been writing down everything. Everyone is so supportive here and words can't express how much strength I have gathered reading the posts.

Thanks!

Jean

 
 
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