Re: Bruce Lee Tribute, one-inch punch, double kick, roundhouse kick, etc.
July 24 2006, 9:51 PM
i dont want to nick your thread brother wudi, just have a question for anyone who think they know and i dont think this a big enuff topic to open another thread..i have debated this with many of my friends and we can never come up with an agreement, the question is who would win in a fight between Bruce lee and Muhammed Ali, no rules.
Re: Bruce Lee Tribute, one-inch punch, double kick, roundhouse kick, etc.
July 24 2006, 10:00 PM
"who would win in a fight between Bruce lee and Muhammed Ali, no rules."
I believes Bruce would win in short order; because the fact that Western Boxing does not have kicking, and other nasty hitting of human vital point....... like finger into the eye balls or stricking the bridge of the nose....etc.
Both are great fighter at their primed; and it would be a fearful fight. But, I would gives the extra edge to Bruce for his use of kicking!
Re: Bruce Lee Tribute, one-inch punch, double kick, roundhouse kick, etc.
July 24 2006, 10:22 PM
you can't compare those two becasue alie is twice the weight and size of LEE. IF Lee is the saem weight and height as ali i'm afride lee will beat ali with ease. Lets say ali can't last 5 seconds. But fact remains lee is light weight and ali is heavyweight so fight will go to ali if ali dives in and pins lee down like UFC style graping.
Re: Bruce Lee Tribute, one-inch punch, double kick, roundhouse kick, etc.
July 24 2006, 10:34 PM
"you can't compare those two becasue alie is twice the weight and size of LEE. IF Lee is the saem weight and height as ali i'm afride lee will beat ali with ease. Lets say ali can't last 5 seconds. But fact remains lee is light weight and ali is heavyweight so fight will go to ali if ali dives in and pins lee down like UFC style graping."
I believes the reference should be when Ali at his prime during his time as Olympic Boxing Champ; which is more in weight and speed of Bruce Lee. In the later life of Ali as a professional boxer; that is much overweight, yes..... this would not be a proper class to match the two fighters.
Re: Bruce Lee Tribute, one-inch punch, double kick, roundhouse kick, etc.
July 24 2006, 11:48 PM
i think if the fight lasts under 5 minutes u have to go with bruce because of his precision speed and critical manouevers.any longer then i have to go with ali...both are my all time heroes
Re: Bruce Lee Tribute, one-inch punch, double kick, roundhouse kick, etc.
July 25 2006, 3:09 AM
I'd have to go with Bruce over Ali. Given the weight difference, if Ali manages to land a punch on Bruce, it could knock him out in a single punch. However, Boxing is just too rigid compared to Jeet Kune Do. Given that Bruce is fanatical about speed and precision in his training, he can probably place several blows on Ali's vitals before there is time to react. Also, keep in mind that Bruce mastered a multitude of fighting styles, including western boxing and wrestling.
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Re: Bruce Lee Tribute, one-inch punch, double kick, roundhouse kick, etc.
July 25 2006, 3:13 AM
I believes both Bruce and Ali are the only person offically recorded to punch at above 400+ pounds, I can't get the article where I read this awhile back. Don't knows if this is true or not; may be some of you also read this information before and able to provide a link!
Re: Bruce Lee Tribute, one-inch punch, double kick, roundhouse kick, etc.
July 25 2006, 3:19 AM
Ali would KO Lee with he first punch, but Lee will have him on the ground before he throws anything, hes too quick and no rules is much closer to his style than it is to boxing.
Re: Bruce Lee Tribute, one-inch punch, double kick, roundhouse kick, etc.
July 25 2006, 8:31 AM
Bruce Lee, no doubt, he's a real fighter in real life unlike these "martial artists/actors" you see today. He put Bolo in submission, Bruce Lee is a light weight and I think it's safe to say Bolo is a Heavy weight. Bruce Lee is the father of Mixed Martial Arts, Jeet Kune Do, the fighting system without a system. Be like water, my friend.
Re: Bruce Lee Tribute, one-inch punch, double kick, roundhouse kick, etc.
July 25 2006, 5:31 PM
Bruce Lee IS a real life martial artist, he is the inventor of Wing Chun, I personally have learned a little Wing Chun, the theory in it is AMAZING. Wing Chun is invented to take a guy out in the first hit, the theory is straight forward, LITERALLY, walk straight up to the guy and aim for soft spots like nose, eye, neck, crutch, head, one hit WILL bring to ground. Ever seen Wing Chun masters kick Muay Thai and Jujitsu guys? Go and search it up.
Chinese people work their butt off and say nothing. Indians talk their butt off about the work they'll be doing however what they say rarely corresponds with what they actually do.
Re: Bruce Lee Tribute, one-inch punch, double kick, roundhouse kick, etc.
July 25 2006, 6:21 PM
Bruce Lee never won anything. He was proclaimed a God because he could do his art well for show, or demonstrate it on someone... but I doubt he could beat many professional martial artists.
His only real fight is disputed and unrecorded and both sides have varying stories... who you believe is up to you (with Wong Jack Man).
I think Bruce would have won because Ali was restricted in his style in using the length of his legs (he was tall). But since Ali actually fought and wasn't a show pony, maybe he would have won out of experience.
I personally don't hold Bruce as the best fighter cause he never actually fought. Maybe he perfected an art... but I doubt he would be so calm and collected in a situation were a professional fighter is breathing down his neck, especially one so vicious and determined as 'El Guapo'... just saying is all.
EDIT: And besides... everyone knows these are the best fighters in the world...
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Re: Bruce Lee Tribute, one-inch punch, double kick, roundhouse kick, etc.
July 25 2006, 6:26 PM
I meant Jeet Kun Do, Wing Chun was was created in the 1700s.
Roundhouse kick is inefficient and stupid, TKD uses it alot, and thats why you see they get their ass kicked all the time. TKD is the only stupid martialart, actually make that two, the break dancing crap is no good either.
Chinese people work their butt off and say nothing. Indians talk their butt off about the work they'll be doing however what they say rarely corresponds with what they actually do.
Re: Bruce Lee Tribute, one-inch punch, double kick, roundhouse kick, etc.
July 25 2006, 9:13 PM
yes the brazilan one. TKD is only good for fighting if you have a fense between opponets. Other wise you can close up to the TKD guy and pin him down. Since TKD teachs no hand strikes or what to do if you get floored any guy with decent hit can knock them out. seriouly the most useful is BJJ since in real street fight you need to floor them to win(unless you can knock them out but thats hard)
Re: Bruce Lee Tribute, one-inch punch, double kick, roundhouse kick, etc.
July 25 2006, 10:22 PM
Ali can knock bruce out. But before ali can do that, bruce would probably kick ali's leg and turn it purple. I'm a bit skeptical of traditional martials arts now because they usually get their a$$es kick in MMA. Maybe bruce was really that good, but he didn't compete in any mma like competitions back then, or did he? So it's hard to measure his real skills as a fighter.
Re: Bruce Lee Tribute, one-inch punch, double kick, roundhouse kick, etc.
July 25 2006, 11:32 PM
There's a difference between masters that study and invent martial arts styles and master practioner of existing styles. Bruce Lee is in essence a master strategist while Ali is a master tactician, ie those that devise the strategy and those that execute. However, I see no evidence that Bruce could not execute that which he taught to perfection. Jeet Kune Do is no second-rate martial art style either.
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Re: Bruce Lee Tribute, one-inch punch, double kick, roundhouse kick, etc.
July 26 2006, 2:30 AM
dude bruce lee is the father of MMA.
Before him there is no real good MMA fighters so natrualy he didn't compete aginest MMA but he did compete many times in prizefighting in HK and other places in asia. He fought many muay thai boxers.
Really? Why do you think he had a hand in modern MMA? I don't think Bruce believe in martial arts as a sporting event. He abandoned traditional martial arts precisely because they were sports-like, and had too many rigid rules that made them impractical in real fights. He was looking to create a unifying style of martial arts in Jeet Kune Do, too bad his followers didn't carry that spirit after his death.
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Re: Bruce Lee Tribute, one-inch punch, double kick, roundhouse kick, etc.
July 26 2006, 3:36 AM
"Bruce Lee never won anything. He was proclaimed a God because he could do his art well for show, or demonstrate it on someone... but I doubt he could beat many professional martial artists.
His only real fight is disputed and unrecorded and both sides have varying stories... who you believe is up to you (with Wong Jack Man).
I think Bruce would have won because Ali was restricted in his style in using the length of his legs (he was tall). But since Ali actually fought and wasn't a show pony, maybe he would have won out of experience.
I personally don't hold Bruce as the best fighter cause he never actually fought. Maybe he perfected an art... but I doubt he would be so calm and collected in a situation were a professional fighter is breathing down his neck, especially one so vicious and determined as 'El Guapo'... just saying is all."
This is where you are wrong; in fact, Bruce Lee started as a street fighter in the dock harbour of Kowloon while he was learning his first Kung Fu style Called Wing Chun under Grand Master Yip Man. Yip Man is the fifth generation of Wing Chun Custodian.
Bruce Lee and his other team mates would fights the 14K which is the Hong Kong Triad Gangs..... eventually, these weekend fights gets to very ugly and Bruce Lee father have no choice but to ship Bruce Lee to America.
You see, Bruce Lee father is an Opera actor and is very well knowns in Hong Kong entertainment industries; Bruce Lee was born in America while his father and mother were doing opera shows while in America..... thus, given Bruce Lee the American citizenship by birth.
But, Bruce Lee and his family returned back to Hong Kong and this is where Bruce Lee grow up and spent his better half of life while in Hong Kong. Anyhow, Bruce Lee is not just a showman actors; he does street fights.... and he is very good at this street fighting along with ball room dancing.
Also, after he flee to America because of the Hong Kong 14K gangs wanting revenge on him; he settle in the West Coast of America and attended University in US. He started to training White boys on Wing Chun Kung Fu in America; and this angered many local American Chinese Kung Fu Practisionar...... since the ancient art of Kung Fu is not allows to be disclosed to outsider. And Bruce Lee have violated this tabboo by teaching Wing Chun to the White and Black American kids.
So, there were also fights from the Chinese American Kung Fu guys goes to fighting against Bruce Lee; but all of them got beating down by Bruce for he is experience at this street fighting while in Hong Kong!
Hopes this small history of Bruce Lee would remove further ignorance on this subject!
In summary, Bruce Lee can fight; and he fight dirty and nasty.... this is the basic idea of JKD; which means, "The Way of Intercepting Fist"!! Which is a combination of many Kung Fu Style along with Bruce Lee personal thinking of fighting style, incorporated with much of the core dirty fighting from Wing Chun.
You see, Wing Chun; unlike many of other Chinese Kung Fu.... was originated from Shaolin which is a condensed version of all Shaolin most deadly fighting styles. Because, it takes 18 years to train a Shaolin fighting monks; while Shaolin were under attack during the late Qing Dynasty..... there is no ways the Shaolin monks can properly trained Shaolin monks for 18 years to meet demand of defense and to preserves Shaolin Kung Fu and traditions.
This is why, the core and most deadly strikes from all Shaolin Kung Fu were condensed into a simplifed Kung Fu to speed up the training of fighting monks; ...... thus to preserves the Shaolin knowledges and to spread it outside of Shaolin to train other Chinese to fight against the Qing Dynasty.
When the Qing troop attack and burn down Shaolin temple and kills off many of the fighting monks; there were few Shaolin monks escape and taking this condensed Kung Fu to other part of China. One particular Shaolin Monk taking this condensed Kung Fu and hide in Southern China to escape from the Qing Troops!
Eventually, this Shaolin monks teach a lady monk on the condense Shaolin Kung Fu; and this lady accepted one student and her name is called Wing Chun, meaning Forever Spring! Being a lady and physically weaker then a man; Wing Chun further refined and incorporated this condensed Shaolin Kung Fun form into a new fighting system based on the principle of weaker lady to defense against stronger oppponents.
This is why, Wing Chun is one of the most effective and deadly fighting style of Kung Fu; for each of its moves is to seriously hurt your opponents and allows time for you to run and escape aways from the fight. Every moves and strike is maximized for effectiveless, rather then forms in the traditional style of Kung Fu. The famous Bruce Lee "One Inch Punch", is in fact from Wing Chun Kung Fu; where you needed to developed very powerful punch with in 1" of distance for close quarter fighting.
There are three basic Wing Chun fighting routines, one horse standing training, one double butterfly knife routine, one 6.5 staff fighting routine..... and there is also the very famous fighting called Sticky Hand fighting routine; where opponents are to fight blinded folded, where the object of this routine is to continue to strike your opponents and not allows him to escape..... this is the meaning of sticky hand fighting.
Also, there is the Wooden dummy(which you boys see Bruce Lee Striking for training) and the Wooding poll training tool where two opponents are to fight and train standing on this tiny polls.
In the ancient time, sharp knifes and bamboo stick are place undernearth this Wooden Polls; where an opponent who fall from the polls are guts and kills by these sharp bamboo stick on the ground.
Until you boys learn more of this topic, please don't making ignorance commands about Bruce Lee and his style of fighting. Bruce Lee can fight the best of them; the show on movie is only the entertainment part of his training!
Re: Bruce Lee Tribute, one-inch punch, double kick, roundhouse kick, etc.
July 26 2006, 3:43 AM
Here is the linkage of Wing Chun from Shaolin; leading to Yip Man and Bruce Lee.
BTW: I have learned Wing Chun by Yip Man Sixth Student for few years while in Hong Kong; but too lazy to continue to learn and to practice! Life ...... have a funny ways to divert your childhood dream and goals! But, that is another story.
Re: Bruce Lee Tribute, one-inch punch, double kick, roundhouse kick, etc.
July 26 2006, 7:43 AM
Quote:sure Bruce Lee could do fancy moves, but could he actually fight well ?
What titles did he have and such ?
An tiny, puny actor, who has never won any great tournament versus a world class athlete, who could sink as much damage as a buffalo. You got to be kidding me.
For the fight to be fair, you've got to bind one of Ali's hand. Bruce Lee was an actor, martial art instructor, which is a fact many tend to forget like Jackie Chan and Jet Li.
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Re: Bruce Lee Tribute, one-inch punch, double kick, roundhouse kick, etc.
July 26 2006, 7:52 AM
eryx and the others, HAHAHA, you obviously don't know sh*t about Bruce Lee, he was not just an actor, dummies. i suggest you nitwits do some research on the real Bruce Lee.
Re: Bruce Lee Tribute, one-inch punch, double kick, roundhouse kick, etc.
July 26 2006, 7:54 AM
Eric,
I guest you did not read what I just wrote about Bruce Lee! What a shame, you can lead a cow to the source of water; but, you can never force a cow to drink from it!
BTW: Jet Li is also a national champion inside China; he is a product of the National sporting team which pick up and trained young potential kids from very young age. Jet Li have won many competition prior to movie career.
In the case of Jacky Chan; he is a monkey crown...... ! Don't put Bruce Lee and Jet Li with a monkey crown like Jacky Chan!
Re: Bruce Lee Tribute, one-inch punch, double kick, roundhouse kick, etc.
July 26 2006, 12:54 PM
15 rounds? What do you mean?
Yeah actually bruce is considered one of the first "mma" fighter. But the only way we're gonna find out bruce's real skill is if you have a time machine, and make bruce compete in modern day mma, specifically in pride in the lightweight devision. Man that would be a dream. lol
This message has been edited by cyborgdude2k4 on Jul 26, 2006 1:00 PM
Given the amount of respect Bruce Lee commands in the martial arts world to this day, I doubt the opinions of a few outsiders will diminish his status.
I bet naysayers think that because Bruce Lee has a small profile, he lacks striking power. But, the opinions of professional fighters from his era says otherwise.
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Re: Bruce Lee Tribute, one-inch punch, double kick, roundhouse kick, etc.
July 26 2006, 2:15 PM
If any of you have read The Tao of Jeet Kund Do. You will realise that BL has more respect for WESTERN Boxing than most other traditional martial arts. Infact most of the principles of JKD are derived from Boxing.
R.K. Laxman, India's renowned cartoonist, honours the hardy & humble Indian Jawan
Re: Bruce Lee Tribute, one-inch punch, double kick, roundhouse kick, etc.
July 26 2006, 2:18 PM
Guys,
Let me toss another point of information on the table related to this topic; as I recalled, later Ali have this comic fight with a Karate Jap in Japan and broadcasted by the national Jap TV..... if my memory serves me correctly.
During this match, this Karate Jap delibrately fall on the ground and just continue to kick Ali legs from the ground; because the two style of fighting is so different and foreign........ Heavy Weight Ali was just running around the ring, while this Karate Jap Guy was sliming around the floor like a turtle on his back and kick out at Ali when ever he gets closed. I was such a comic display, in line of Japs Gimps Wrestling. A clearly frustrated Ali just didn't knows what to do with this Jap lying on the floor like a girly boy; and he started to curse the Jap guy in frustration.
I can't remember the name of that Karate Jap; I don't knows if any of you guys have seen this old TV footage before and knows what I am talking about! Anyhooo, it was a rather silly and comic fight to tainted Great Ali name....... for he needed the money at that time, as I recalls; the American IRS was after him with some back tax issues and Ali was in money trouble...... and this stupid Jap match and demonstration fights was means to gain some quick cash....etc!
I don't know if this old Ali vs Jap fight is on YouTube; I will try to search for it for you guys to see it!
Re: Bruce Lee Tribute, one-inch punch, double kick, roundhouse kick, etc.
July 26 2006, 2:30 PM
Ummmmmm Kiddy... do you even know what a street fight is? Its just a rabble of teenagers or thugs that go at each other. We had a few street fights posted by Panda, with Blacks and Whites... that's what you think is proper fighting?
In that phase of his life he hadn't even learnt martial arts for long, how do you expect him to use it properly. Secondly, not EVERY CHINAMAN knows how to use proper martial arts or any form what so ever... like I said, he wouldn't have fought any one worth two ****s. Also Kiddy, he fought ONE GUY, and was sent to America for it... Not a whole army.
When he actually fought someone proffessional (Wong Jack Man) he claimed victory, while Wong said the fight came to a stalemate after 20 minutes... I prefer to listen to a guy with reason then some over exaggerated winning in 2-3 minutes (claimed by his former wife, go figure).
*I bet naysayers think that because Bruce Lee has a small profile, he lacks striking power. But, the opinions of professional fighters from his era says otherwise.*
Who's that Wudi? Chuck Norris?
Everyone today thinks Jet Li could beat anyone, same thing with Bruce Lee... I'm not saying he wasn't a perfectionist in his art, or taking away that from him... But don't spout crap about him winning anything. Professional fighting (MMA mentioned, UFC etc) only came about in the late 70's way past his death.
Professional fighters even admit style has little to do with it because you don't have time... instinct runs supreme.
This guy would run Bruce into the ground... 'El Guapo'... Bas Rutten. These guys are real fighters, and arent even allowed to be dirty!!!!
I love Bruce's movies, but his fighting skills... No one will ever know really.
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Re: Bruce Lee Tribute, one-inch punch, double kick, roundhouse kick, etc.
July 26 2006, 2:30 PM
That was anontio inoki kiddy. But some believe that was a work fight. Im not really doubting bruce at all. Im one of his biggest fan. But Ali is just too freaking big. No matter how good a fighter bruce is, he has to have a inhuman CHIN against Ali. Because ali only needs to catch him with one punch and it could be all over. With that said, bruce was damn fast, he could probably low kick ali all day and break his leg.
Pound for pound maybe bruce is the best, but how are we gonna prove that? Who knows really. But let's not exaggerate with this bruce vs HEAVYWEIGHTS dream matches.
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Re: Bruce Lee Tribute, one-inch punch, double kick, roundhouse kick, etc.
July 26 2006, 2:53 PM
if talking about kickboxing. in world i don't know, but china for sure is at the top of asia along with thailand. chinese sanda(sanshou) fighter kicks jap karate player all the day.
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Re: Bruce Lee Tribute, one-inch punch, double kick, roundhouse kick, etc.
July 26 2006, 3:07 PM
"Ummmmmm Kiddy... do you even know what a street fight is? Its just a rabble of teenagers or thugs that go at each other. We had a few street fights posted by Panda, with Blacks and Whites... that's what you think is proper fighting?"
You don't knows what is the meaning of 14K gangster fight; you thinks this are just school kids rough house in the school back yard?
"When he actually fought someone proffessional (Wong Jack Man) he claimed victory, while Wong said the fight came to a stalemate after 20 minutes... I prefer to listen to a guy with reason then some over exaggerated winning in 2-3 minutes (claimed by his former wife, go figure)."
He have learned enough to fight the gangs; and also, he have learned enough to teach American kids after he come to America. Read up on Bruce Life for once!
*I bet naysayers think that because Bruce Lee has a small profile, he lacks striking power. But, the opinions of professional fighters from his era says otherwise.*
Who's that Wudi? Chuck Norris?"
How about opinion of others; you means all these people lies.... just to stroke Bruce Lee Eagle?
Quotes from Bruce Lee's friends and student
These are some quotes from Bruce Lee's students and people who trained with him about his feats of strength:[9]
Chuck Norris
"Lee, pound for pound, might well have been one of the strongest men in the world, and certainly one of the quickest."
Doug Palmer
"Bruce was like the Michael Jordan or Muhammad Ali in his prime, somebody who stood above everyone else. It's not that the other martial artists weren't good. It's just that this guy was great."
Herb Jackson
"The biggest problem in designing equipment for Bruce was that he'd go through it so damn fast. I had to reinforce his wooden dummy with automobile parts so he could train on it without breaking it. I had started to build him a mobile dummy that could actually attack and retreat to better simulate "live" combat, sadly Bruce died before the machine was built. It would have been strung up by big high-tension cables that I was going to connect between two posts, one on either side of his backyard. The reason for the machine was simply because no one could stand up to his full force punches and kicks, Bruce's strength and skill had evolved to a point where he had to fight machines."
"He never trained in a gym, he thought he could concentrate better at home, so he worked out on his patio. He had a small weight set, something like a standard 100 lb cast-iron set. In addition, he had a 310 lb Olympic barbell set, a bench press and some dumbbells, both solid and adjustable."
"Bruce used to beat all other comers at this type of wrist wrestling and even joked that he wanted to be world champion at it."
James Coburn
"Bruce and I were training out on my patio one day, we were using this giant bag for side kicks, I guess it weighed about 150 lb. Bruce looked at it and just went Bang, it shot up out into the lawn about 15 ft in the air, it then busted in the middle. It was filled with little bits and pieces of rag, we were picking up bits of rag for months."
Jesse Glover
"When he could do push ups on his thumbs and push ups with 250 lb on his back, he moved on to other exercises."
"The power that Lee was capable of instantly generating was absolutely frightening to his fellow martial artists, especially his sparring partners, and his speed was equally intimidating. We timed him with an electric timer once, and Bruce's quickest movements were around five hundredths of a second, his slowest were around eight hundredths. This was punching from a relaxed position with his hands down at his sides from a distance between 18-24 inches. Not only was he amazingly quick, but he could read you too. He could pick up on small subtle things that you were getting ready to do and then he'd just shut you down."
"Bruce was gravitating more and more toward weight training as he would use the weighted wall pulleys and do series upon series with them. He'd also grab one of the old rusty barbells that littered the floor at the YMCA and would roll it up and down his forearms, which is no small feat when you consider that the barbell weighed 70 lb."
Jim Kelly
"Bruce, well I can basically say this. I have been around a lot of great martial arts fighters. Worked out with them. Fought them in tournaments. In my opinion Bruce Lee was the greatest martial artist who ever lived. To me thats my opinion. I think Bruce Lee is the greatest martial artist ever. I don't think anybody is in his class."
Joe Lewis
"Bruce was incredibly strong for his size. He could take a 75 lb barbell and from a standing position with the barbell held flush against his chest, he could slowly stick his arms out, lock them and hold the barbell there for 20 seconds, that's pretty damn tough for a guy who at the time only weighed 138 lb. I know 200 lb weight lifters who can't do that."
" I never stood in front of another human who was as quick as him. He not only had the quickness but he had the inner confidence to muster the conviction to do so. I've seen others who had the speed but lack conviction or vice versa. He was like Ali, he had both. I stood before both of these men, so I know."
"If Bruce Lee wasn´t the greatest martial artist of all time, then certainly he is the number one candidate." (Source)
Leo Fong
"Yes, I was on the receiving end of his side kick. It was like getting hit with a truck."
Mito Uhera
"Bruce always felt that if your stomach wasn't developed, then you had no business doing any hard sparring."
James Rage
"I think its important for people to realize that he was not only one of history's greatest martial artists, but also one of the finest athletes period. His devotion to physical exercise and healthy lifestyle was mind-boggling."
"Everyone today thinks Jet Li could beat anyone, same thing with Bruce Lee... I'm not saying he wasn't a perfectionist in his art, or taking away that from him... But don't spout crap about him winning anything. Professional fighting (MMA mentioned, UFC etc) only came about in the late 70's way past his death."
Well now, we shall never knows!
"Professional fighters even admit style has little to do with it because you don't have time... instinct runs supreme."
Bruce is the first person to tell you that, style and form have no meaning; this is the basic of JKD.
This guy would run Bruce into the ground... 'El Guapo'... Bas Rutten. These guys are real fighters, and arent even allowed to be dirty!!!!
Re: Bruce Lee Tribute, one-inch punch, double kick, roundhouse kick, etc.
July 26 2006, 3:16 PM
"That was anontio inoki kiddy. But some believe that was a work fight. Im not really doubting bruce at all. Im one of his biggest fan. But Ali is just too freaking big. No matter how good a fighter bruce is, he has to have a inhuman CHIN against Ali. Because ali only needs to catch him with one punch and it could be all over. With that said, bruce was damn fast, he could probably low kick ali all day and break his leg."
Thanks cyborgdude2k4,
did not knows that Karate Jap guy named Anontio Inoki; he was a mama boy on that fight! Cheer!
"Pound for pound maybe bruce is the best, but how are we gonna prove that? Who knows really. But let's not exaggerate with this bruce vs HEAVYWEIGHTS dream matches."
No one claimed that a light weight Bruce can fight a Heavyweights Ali; this is just too much handicapped against Bruce. That is why, I have say earlier; we needed to even match smaller size Bruce at Ali when he is at his top forms during the Olympic Boxing game....... this would be a proper weight to match the two great fighters! At the prime of Bruce and the prime of Ali; the two to hack each other out, at the same weight class.
To match a 138 lbs Bruce with 280 lbs Ali(later in life); is just stilly! A big bufferloo Ali just have to run and charge at Bruce, the momentum alone would have crush Bruce. LOL
Re: Bruce Lee Tribute, one-inch punch, double kick, roundhouse kick, etc.
July 26 2006, 3:41 PM
Very nice Thai kicking video, Comrade bigtoothbrush; I guest I stand corrected, a smaller guy can fight double his weight! That was very impressive kick by this Thai Guy; very nice!
Very nice movie
