Jim Crow lives, the New York Times reports, not in Mississippi or Alabama but in California, or at least the California state prison system, in which the penal authorities have for long routinely separated inmates of different races for the first 60 days of their extended vacation at the expense of the taxpayers. Now, the iron logic of egalitarianism is catching up with this insidious vestige of white supremacy in a lawsuit launched by a black inmate who feels deeply wounded because his rights have been violated.
This citizen is a gentleman named Garrison S. Johnson, convicted murderer, who has been demanding redress since 1997, with the pro bono assistance of a New York law firm. Two federal courts have already rejected Johnson's suit, but now it's going before the Supreme Court on appeal.
"The decision below undermines a national imperative to eliminate racial discrimination," the appeal argues, and those who defend the system have to tiptoe their way around that particular holy cow. The defense of the prison policy usually offered is that it's not permanent and doesn't confer any advantage on one race or another (it's applied to several different racial groups known for animosity toward each other, not just to blacks and whites—Japanese and Chinese, Vietnamese and Laotians, etc.) and is necessary simply to avoid interracial violence among chaps who are violent by their nature. [Justices Agree to Evaluate Prison Policy Based on Race, By Linda Greenhouse, March 2, 2004]
The Times doesn't mention it, but the in-prison segregation needs to be preserved for yet another reason—to keep non-white inmates from raping whites, which they reportedly do routinely and with little concern for punishment or retaliation.
In a 2001 report published by the liberal Human Rights Watch, a researcher named Joanne Mariner disclosed facts the mainstream media have long ignored or denied: There are more men raped in the United States—about 90,000 every year—than women—a mere 40,000. Most of the male rapes take place in prison, and good many of them are interracial, with blacks and Hispanics searching out and raping white men. [No Escape: Male Rape in U.S. Prisons]
The stories the report recounts, described in a 2002 article in the newsletter American Renaissance, are graphic and repellent. "I had no choice but to submit to being Inmate B's prison wife," one white convict said. "In all reality, I was his slave.… I determined I'd be better off to willingly have sex with one person, than I would be to face violence and rape by multiple people. The most tragic part to this is that the person I chose to 'be with' has AIDS."
Another white prisoner in Michigan reported that the black inmate who "claimed me as his property" "publicly humiliated and degraded me, making sure all the inmates and guards knew that I was a queen and his property. Within a week he was pimping me out to other inmates at $3.00 a man. This state of existence continued for two months until he sold me for $25.00 to another black male who purchased me to be his wife." Those are only a couple of the less lurid stories from the Human Rights Watch report.
And why does this sort of thing happen? It happens not only because prison authorities don't stop it but because white prisoners themselves won't either. The report recounts that though neither black nor Hispanic convicts will tolerate a white man raping one of their own races, whites do virtually nothing to protect each other against black and Hispanic rapists.
As the report puts it, "African Americans typically face sexual abuse at the hands of other African Americans, and Hispanics at the hands of other Hispanics. Some inmates told Human Rights Watch that this pattern reflected an inmate rule, one that was strictly enforced: 'only a black can turn out [rape] a black, and only a chicano can turn out a chicano.' Breaking this rule by sexually abusing someone of another race or ethnicity, with the exception of a white inmate, could lead to racial or ethnic unrest, as other members of the victim's group would retaliate against the perpetrator's group."
The American Renaissance article put it a bit more bluntly: "The racial dynamic in prisons puts whites at a tremendous disadvantage. First, whites are often outnumbered by both blacks and Hispanics. But far more important, just as they show no racial solidarity in 'the free world,' whites in prison do not band together to protect each other from predators."
All of which helps explain why prison authorities want to keep the races segregated, at least until newcomers learn their way around. It may also explain why Garrison Johnson brought the lawsuit in the first place. But most of all, it helps explain what's wrong with white people—and not just those in prison.
Dunno how this is something to be proud of... in any capacity.
Siege of Tobruk - One German POW said: "I cannot understand you Australians. In Poland, France, and Belgium, once the tanks got through the soldiers took it for granted that they were beaten. But you are like demons. The tanks break through and your infantry still keep fighting." Rommel wrote of seeing "a batch of some fifty or sixty Australian prisoners ... marched off close behind us—immensely big and powerful men, who without question represented an elite formation of the British Empire, a fact that was also evident in battle."
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Re: Who rapes in prison?
July 13 2008, 10:04 PM
Nighthawk is proud that white men are number one in anything.
I find it disturbing first that blacks and latinos are overrepresented in jail and secondly I find it disturbing that whites don't have the tribal mentality for helping each other out.
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I find it perplexing panda is proud 'coloured' men rape white men. The act is homosexual making the rapist homosexual, the act is a vile one albeit on the worst of society and it doesn't further anything in the real world.
Siege of Tobruk - One German POW said: "I cannot understand you Australians. In Poland, France, and Belgium, once the tanks got through the soldiers took it for granted that they were beaten. But you are like demons. The tanks break through and your infantry still keep fighting." Rommel wrote of seeing "a batch of some fifty or sixty Australian prisoners ... marched off close behind us—immensely big and powerful men, who without question represented an elite formation of the British Empire, a fact that was also evident in battle."
lol. These white prisoners deserve all that they get. I won't even bother trying to describe my contempt for these people. They would rather let themselves be raped hourly and most likely get AIDS than to even ATTEMPT to stand together as members of the same group.
That's why I refuse to hang with American "white boys." They're loud and obnoxious but if ever the s.hit hits the fan you're as good as alone. I remember this one incident, when I was going to high school there were 80 kids at the bus stop, and 60 of them were black. I made the mistake once of leaving my calculator in a visible outer flap of my backpack, and by the time I realized my mistake somebody had already taken it. I started asking the white kids if they saw who took it, which they must have, but nope, nobody knows nothing. Eventually a black dude told me who had done it. Oh the fuken irony.
Anyway, I find myself having less and less patience with my race. Yeah this is all due to a brainwashing campaign by the jewish media, but there are so many sayings in virtually every culture to the effect that the fool only has himself to blame for being fooled.
F.uck an eye for an eye. You take my eye, and I will kill you, and all those you care about. That is our policy.
Now now... when the **** hits the fan in Europe, there will most likely be civil strife the likes not seen in over a century. Whether the 'natives' win that fight is yet to be determined... but hell anything is possible.
Siege of Tobruk - One German POW said: "I cannot understand you Australians. In Poland, France, and Belgium, once the tanks got through the soldiers took it for granted that they were beaten. But you are like demons. The tanks break through and your infantry still keep fighting." Rommel wrote of seeing "a batch of some fifty or sixty Australian prisoners ... marched off close behind us—immensely big and powerful men, who without question represented an elite formation of the British Empire, a fact that was also evident in battle."
Which means if you ever get to prison all you have to do is to carry favor with whites ? Now how YOU are going to do that is obviously a personal matter between YOU and them. I just hope you will have enough KY jelly with you to make it easier on you in YOUR initiation.
Happy now?
Shyt, I have seen many people with spider web tatto centerd on the points of their elbow, I had no idea what that meant.
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"Now now... when the **** hits the fan in Europe, there will most likely be civil strife the likes not seen in over a century. Whether the 'natives' win that fight is yet to be determined... but hell anything is possible."
What Europe are we talking about here? Cuz the white boys here in western Europe (apart from English chavs) are as bad as your average Suburban American. Sh!t, at least rural whites in most parts of America don't take no sh!t from anyone, whether their blacks, hispanics, other whites or the government. lol
What Europe are we talking about here? Cuz the white boys here in western Europe (apart from English chavs) are as bad as your average Suburban American.
This is true. It seems that only the Russians have kept their wits about them, Russia is 20% not white yet everyone knows who is afraid of whom. lol.
That's why I choose to make myself part of the eastern european community here in Chicago. They're nowhere as extreme as the ones on the video, but at least they look at themselves as a group and if another group comes looking for trouble fight like a group too.
F.uck an eye for an eye. You take my eye, and I will kill you, and all those you care about. That is our policy.
Hence my reservation of whether when this strife comes that the 'natives' will win.
Siege of Tobruk - One German POW said: "I cannot understand you Australians. In Poland, France, and Belgium, once the tanks got through the soldiers took it for granted that they were beaten. But you are like demons. The tanks break through and your infantry still keep fighting." Rommel wrote of seeing "a batch of some fifty or sixty Australian prisoners ... marched off close behind us—immensely big and powerful men, who without question represented an elite formation of the British Empire, a fact that was also evident in battle."
Thats video is from kavkaz center, essentially an Islaminc terrorist support organization in Russia. The neo-nazis are an incredible minority in Russia, and when authorities crack down on them guess who is going to the hospital. This is one Russian you dont want to fvck with, period.
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looks like he likes getting down with sweaty men lol
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Re: Who rapes in prison?
July 14 2008, 9:29 PM
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That's why I choose to make myself part of the eastern european community here in Chicago. They're nowhere as extreme as the ones on the video, but at least they look at themselves as a group and if another group comes looking for trouble fight like a group too.
You call that a fight? All this "fights" were executions of poor harmless peasants for gods sake!
I guess I'm not overly bright, but the answer to the question seems self evident to me.
Criminals.
Anything else is simply drivel.
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Now now... when the **** hits the fan in Europe, there will most likely be civil strife the likes not seen in over a century.
You sure? Arabs killed over 200 wogs in Spain when they bombed the trains. Muslims killed about 100 Brits when they bombed the buses.
Where's the civil strife? LOL. What could possibly be worse than fooking bombings of your civilian populations? No reactions?
Well, the Spaniards did react. They reacted by passing a law that made it EASIER for arabs to enter Spain. LOL
European whites are even more pussy than US whites. LOL
At least after 9/11, American whites went and killed a couple of Sikhs (okay so they're stupid and can't tell an Arab from an Indian but their hearts were in the right place. LOL)
Where's the civil strife? LOL. What could possibly be worse than fooking bombings of your civilian populations? No reactions?
Riots, forced segregation, a movement away from the central government etc.
Once Europeans cannot bury their head in the sand any longer and when the government is actually threatened directly rather then some random terrorist act, there will have to be a reaction or the government will fall. Even a liberal pussyfest of a government will fight for its survival, so I hope.
We all know Europeans were the most brutal people that walked this world Panda, you just need the Europeans to get out of their comma.
Siege of Tobruk - One German POW said: "I cannot understand you Australians. In Poland, France, and Belgium, once the tanks got through the soldiers took it for granted that they were beaten. But you are like demons. The tanks break through and your infantry still keep fighting." Rommel wrote of seeing "a batch of some fifty or sixty Australian prisoners ... marched off close behind us—immensely big and powerful men, who without question represented an elite formation of the British Empire, a fact that was also evident in battle."
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Re: Who rapes in prison?
July 15 2008, 1:21 PM
Riots, forced segregation, a movement away from the central government etc.
LOL. There were riots in Europe after the bombings in Spain and the UK. But the riots were by muslims beating up on more white people. LOL
Segregation? They are segregating themselves -- and taking over parts of Europe as their own turf. You don't have to segregate them. LOL
Moving away from central government? What does that have to do with anything.
White Euros are evil and can go to war by murdering and bombing non-white countries. But they are inherently weak when faced with dark folks on their home turf. It confuses them because they can't use military equipment at home. LOL
When blacks or arabs beat on an European white guy or the other white guys pretend they don't see anything. LOL
Haven't we posted enough videos of that here? LOL
So this Euro breastbeating of how American whites are pussy compared to them is silly. American white guys get beaten up and raped by blacks on a regular basis. And so do Euros (white guys are probably the number one rape victims in a French prison too.) LOL.
I'm afraid that Panda is correct on all counts. Just look at what happened in France in 2005, the various immigrant scum of all races went about burning, looting, and pillaging in every major French city for WEEKS, and what was the reaction? Once the rioting was over the overwhelming consensus was that more money needed to be thrown at the hoods. Frankly, I am coming closer and closer to the conclusion that white people are going out, and that they deserve to go out. When we have a culture in which native women are to blame for being raped by darkie immigrants and the said darkie immigrants rule the streets even though they are like 10% of the population, how can anyone possibly defend the continued existence of that culture?
BTW, it's amazing how fast we have changed. A while back I read a book on the Algerian War, that s.hit ended less than 50 years ago, well within the memory of many people alive today. It's crazy how different "the white man" was back then. When the Algerians set off bombs in cafes, the response of the European civilians was to lynch any Arab who was unlucky enough to be caught out on the street, and the next day bombs ten times as big were set off in the Arab quarter. If a soldier was assaulted while patrolling an area, that night his whole unit would descend on the area and wreak bloody revenge. My own gradfather was in a unit that machinegunned 50 Arabs because an officer was knifed while out on the street. These were the white men who conquered the world and brought us from subsistence agriculture to the information age. The ones we have today are the ones who will become destroyed a disgracefully weak disorganized mass of turd worlders.
F.uck an eye for an eye. You take my eye, and I will kill you, and all those you care about. That is our policy.
But they are inherently weak when faced with dark folks on their home turf.
You wouldn't have said that 40 years ago, but hey have to hand it to the education systems of the West, making sure every white (yes including me) is guilty of the acts of a hand full of nations has worked wonders. Just like in China a deeper level of nationalism is sweeping Europe and no matter how hard the Left Wing media vilifies and attacks it, it is growing for the very reasons you post.
I won't be laughing if a new rise of fascism grips Europe because of hate of the very people you seem so inclined to support. They are doing more harm to themselves in the long run.
Siege of Tobruk - One German POW said: "I cannot understand you Australians. In Poland, France, and Belgium, once the tanks got through the soldiers took it for granted that they were beaten. But you are like demons. The tanks break through and your infantry still keep fighting." Rommel wrote of seeing "a batch of some fifty or sixty Australian prisoners ... marched off close behind us—immensely big and powerful men, who without question represented an elite formation of the British Empire, a fact that was also evident in battle."
What "white men" are you talking about? The Americans essentially occupied half the middle east, after Beslan crisis there were a series of massive operations in Chechenya days after the incident. In Moscow there was a terrorist hunt the next day that ended with the capture of 10000 muslims without proper papers.
I'm a little confused, namely why are black and latino prisoners raping whites? Is it to prove who is the gayest race? Cause for a man to prove his dominance and manhood, the last thing he should do is anal rape another man.
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u guys are acting so childish. You actually think that being "white" is a disadvantage and your way of life is somehow under threat.
You know how racist you sound? so what if a white girl goes out with a black guy, what the fvck does that have to do with anything? maybe its just that one white girl that happens to like that guy, why does it have to be so offensive? i mean the majority of white girls go out with white guys are u ppl complaining because u somehow cant get laid?
another thing u guys are b1tching about how there is so many minorities in prison well, have u ever asked urself who is less likely to get away with a crime or given a second chance, a white guy or a minority. Better yet who is most likely to get a a better lawyer to beat the system, a white person or a minority.
Ill give u guys an example when I was about 16 I was walking with my friends and another group of people (white) were walking opposite direction towards us, me and some guy must have been 19 years old, locked eyes and he said something racist I wont say what, so when I responded he said something like I'll fight u one on one come, so I faught him and I kicked his 4SS, (not because im a minority and we have superpowers when it comes to fighting, but because I took boxing at the time, and the other guy gassed out 1 minute into the fight. I grabbed his hat, and threw it over a fence we were standing near by. Later on cops approach me, cuff me, slam me against a car, say they're going to fvcken kill me cuz i think im tough or w/e, I end up in a holding cell, they transfer me to a jail for people that are refused bail.
Im there for five days, the whites there were segregated, I was with them for a day, more dessert, we ate in our cells, more exercise time, nicer guards, overall better atmosphere, then a white guy came and they had no room for him so they transferred me in with the blacks. Pretty much a 180, ******* sadistic guards, not as much security, I was involved in a fight and there was many because they put two different groups in there, less dessert sometimes non. Also the guards there didn't seem to care about the inmates, there was two guys there that pretty much bullied everyone else and they got away with it, pretty much no intervention whatsover.
Im taken to court, and I'm told that I could be sent to adult prison for 2 years for robbery with a dangerous weapon. Now I would like to explain to you guys that I have had no prior record, grade A student, didn't even drink at the time, don't do drugs, had a principal who was willing to vouch for me and they were still trying to give me two years. (I'm not a gangster either, I talk in a normal way and I'm very polite most the time) if I was a typical broke immigrant I would have had to plead guilty which alot of them do, because the lawyers provided are crap, and they dont understand the legal system. One of my teachers at school got involved (jewish guy) and sent one of his relatives to represent me, and I easily won, ended up costing my parents a lot of money.
But to all the white guys here complaining about immigrants taking over, or them having benefits, you don't know sh1t and you're acting like a bunch of spoiled kids who have everything but want more.
This message has been edited by kia4ever on Jul 15, 2008 10:21 PM
You find depraved and evil people in all races perhaps in different numbers, but anyway here is a definitly biased article from the white position
a snip and qoute from the article
"The racial dynamic in prisons puts whites at a tremendous disadvantage. First, whites are often outnumbered by both blacks and Hispanics. But far more important, just as they show no racial solidarity in “the free world,” whites in prison do not band together to protect each other from predators. As No Escape reports, Hispanics sometimes rape Hispanics, and blacks sometimes rape blacks, but neither group permits anyone of another race to rape its own people. If a black tried to “turn out” a Mexican, the Mexicans would riot and try to kill him. Blacks also defend each other from white or Hispanic rapists. It is only whites—unless they are known members of white racialist gangs who do stick together—who are on their own and can be raped with impunity. It would be hard to think of a more cruel consequence of stripping whites of racial consciousness."
I can´t understand that these people don`t fight, death should be prefereble to eternal loss of self resperc, dignity and civilisation
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Kia is absolutely right, their is serious prejudiced in the American judicial system. That doesn't go to say that most minority criminals are unlawfully put in prison, far from it but their are serious inconsistencies on a daily basis when prosecuting a white guy to some black dude. The most telling statistic I recently read was that blacks and whites in America consume drugs at a near equal rate, yet nearly 80% of those arrested for drug possession are black. Bad luck if your a brotha?
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Re: Who rapes in prison?
July 16 2008, 12:34 AM
I'm a little confused, namely why are black and latino prisoners raping whites? Is it to prove who is the gayest race? Cause for a man to prove his dominance and manhood, the last thing he should do is anal rape another man.
That's because you have no idea of the brutality of prison life. If you are a dominant black man, you don't express your dominance by using your hands. You exert it by fooking a white man. You get to f*ck something warm AND you get to raise your status among other blacks and hispanics by having a white boy as your bitch.
If you drop 10 women in the prison, the dominant black guys would claim all ten and leave nothing to the white men. But since there are no women, they claim the white guys themselves. It's very simple. LOL
If you drop 10 women in the prison, the dominant black guys would claim all ten and leave nothing to the white men. But since there are no women, they claim the white guys themselves. It's very simple. LOL
Lol, I'm still confused. Am I the only one here? Seriously, would you start doing men if there were no women around? Anyway I don't get it, unless there are many gays among prisoners, why would anal raping another men not be a punishment for both parties? Criminal mind is weird.
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I can´t understand that these people don`t fight, death should be prefereble to eternal loss of self resperc, dignity and civilisation
Oh, I'm sure everyone fights it the first few times, I cannot imagine that anyone wouldn't, frankly as far as unpleasantness is concerned everyone would rather get the s.hit beat out of them than raped. The thing is, whether you're 6'5 or 5'6, there is not much you can do if you're by yourself, especially since it takes time to get weapons. There is no such thing as a lone wolf in prison, only lone sheep. While you're defending yourself against one homeboy another one comes behind you and smashes you in the back of the neck, and you're hitting the ground, no two words about it. Your head is smashed against the floor and the next thing you know you're waking up and two guys are holding you down while the third plays cornhole commando on your ass. lol. The same thing happens the next few times and eventually you decide it's better to just go straight to the raping without the accompanying headache. lol. So you become a whore, end of story. Or at least that's how I imagine things go down in the joint, I hope I don't ever have to find out personally. lol.
F.uck an eye for an eye. You take my eye, and I will kill you, and all those you care about. That is our policy.
atleast these white america trash prisoners should take some attackers with them to the death or atleast buy a nielsen locked and keyed armored pants from the Naked Gun film lol
Anyway I wonder how the jewry in american prisons make do and survive ?
they are probably not raped by any american history X Waffen SS more likely the arabs ?
if they are not given their own segregated prisons
btw no mentioning of the CHinese or Turks or Greeks in this article perhaps Norther Cyprus Reloaded could enligthen us of the "plight" of american greeks in the US prison system lol