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Difficult to live with, intense woman

August 19 2004 at 4:03 PM
  (Login Teri2)
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I thought this would make an interesting post for all of us. How many difficult women do we have out there? May I see a show of hands please?

I used to THINK I was one but after reading how a lot of other ladies here respond to THEIR boundaries being broken and THEIR hearts being ripped from the depths of their chests, I would say that THAT is an incorrect statement.

I prefer 'normal' or 'average' if you please.

Comments?

Teri

 
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El
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Yup that is me

August 19 2004, 7:05 PM 

Super emotional and thickheaded as well.


 
 
Pat
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Re: Difficult to live with, intense woman

August 19 2004, 8:29 PM 

I have read lots and lots about A's and reactions to them by women and we are not difficult but very normal....

we got the" difficult to live with" because H's had to justify their selfish behavior A related, so we became difficult or nasty, what have you...
intense...absolutly...I was very intense trying to get to the bottom of the A and finding out what happened and why...I will go so far as to say I look at things now judging whether it is morally right or not.

Pat

 
 
Chris
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Re: Difficult to live with, intense woman

August 19 2004, 9:18 PM 

Is this a girls-only thread, or can anyone join?

If I had to describe MYSELF, it would be "intense and difficult to live with".

I think that might be a sort of harsh way of saying "thinks things through and has high standards for him/herself."

Hmm. Is there a common thread here?

Chris.

 
 

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Re: Difficult to live with, intense woman

August 19 2004, 9:30 PM 

You know, I though about including men but I figured I should consult my expert on the male pschy first.

So since he approves, by all means guys, join in.

I'm building up ammo. The next time I hear that one of us, man or woman, is difficult to live with or intense or bull headed or whathaveyou, I'm gonna blast em with this survey.

Plus, I'm building up my own strength against that STUPID comment.

Teri

 
 
Jane
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I'm not difficult...I'm just an ENFJ Virgo...

August 20 2004, 9:51 AM 

If you buy into astrology at all, as a Virgo I am reserved, patient, outwardly cheerful and agreeable, affectionate, practical, sensible and witty as well as a meticulous planner, logical and highly attentive to detail. But I can also be highly critical, have high expectations of myself and others, with a tendency to identify and point out other people's faults quite readily.

I'm not difficult -- its just that everyone else has it wrong.

But seriously now, no one is perfect. I would say however that love, respect and affection are powerful filters. One can put up with a great deal when one feels loved, appreciated and protected. My HINO hasn't really changed much over the last 20plus years -- its just that when we were in this journey "together" the faults he had were less important as we recongized we could count on each other to help us deal with those issues. I helped him apply some order and structure to his life and he helped me soften my judgemental and critical nature.

But once he withdrew from our lives as a "couple" and decided he'd expand his scope beyond the two of us, I wasn't as willing to deal with his crap. (Sorry, my critical nature is coming back.) If he decided he doesn't want this marriage anymore then he loses all benefits and entitlements including the benefit of my tolerance for his shortcomings.

So does that make me difficult? No. It just makes me less of a doormat.

 
 
SoWhatNow
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Uh ...

August 20 2004, 12:32 PM 

Can I hold up my wife's hand for her?

SWN

 
 
Teri
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SWN

August 20 2004, 12:49 PM 

OOOOOOOH! Bad Boy! You're in trouble in now!

 
 
DJ
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Hah!

August 20 2004, 1:24 PM 

> does that make me difficult? No. It just makes me less of a doormat.

I love that!

I think anyone is difficult to live with. I mean, I know I'm difficult to live with. So is my husband (addict behavior notwithstanding). Marriage - unless you have a perfect partner) entails accepting those little quirks.

Unfortunately when one's partner is looking to excuse their own bad behavior all their spouse's day-to-day shortcomings suddenly become grist for the mill. Its that old story: "Gee, I hate how my husband leaves socks lying around the living room all the time. I think I'll go spend time with this other guy because I've never seen his socks in my living room..." Affair partners have that fresh glittery sheen because we've never had to live with them and accept all their faults.

At least, that's what I think...

 
 

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Re: Difficult to live with, intense woman

August 20 2004, 3:38 PM 

I'm difficult to live with. Highly reactive, poor emotional regulation, etc. I'm getting better, though.

 
 

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Food for thought

August 21 2004, 2:31 PM 

As a betrayed spouse of many years(now divorced)I was subjected to a number of petty little games my ex wife and her sleezy lawyer liked to play.During the height of all this my sis guided me to a biblical passage found in the book of Proverbs. This passage stated "Better for a man to sit on the corner of a rooftop than with a brawling woman in a wide room" after I picked myself up off the floor(I leterally fell off my bed laughing) I determined that this passage summed her up to a tee.Just thought I'd pass that along.

 
 

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Sarge

August 21 2004, 3:13 PM 

How are you doing? You are on all of our minds. Glad to see you back.

Teri

 
 

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Stephen

August 21 2004, 3:17 PM 

a big HUG from the flat lands

And as you walk you make your path Kat

 
 

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Re: Difficult to live with, intense woman

August 21 2004, 3:22 PM 

Well, I brought these 'words' up with H last night. It was actually fun. Thank you all for you opinions. You gave me strength, courage and confidence to 'nip this in the bud.'

I was so ticked off about it but now it seems kind of funny. This apparently is a trigger word for me. DIFFICULT. But not painful anymore.

I asked H just how it is that I am difficult? I of course got the same answers that you all have but I also got a new one.

He said that lately he sometimes feels INTIMIDATED by me now. Well, I admitted that I have probably become intimidating at times now but that I think it is because of all the times that he intimidated me. So he started to deny that he had ever 'tried' to purposely intimidate me and I proceeded to give him 'the list'. We both started laughing because there was no denying it.

Anyway, thanks. I'll be curious to see how often he uses THAT word with me again.

Teri

 
 

(Login chris924)

Teri

August 21 2004, 5:29 PM 

LOL.

My WINO has used "intimidated" for years. She must mean "mentally intimidated" because I sure am not going to intimidate anyone physically.

Chris.

 
 
SoWhatNow
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Difficult and intense ...

August 22 2004, 9:02 PM 

Well, I'd have to say that I'm really easy to live with ... unless you happen to be highly reactive with poor emotional regulation.

Does anyone see a pattern?


SWN

 
 
DJ
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Becoming irrational...

August 23 2004, 10:33 AM 

I have to laugh. In my early 20's I was the most even-tempered, least reactional, most trusting and laid back person you could possibly meet. Then I met my husband and slowly that all changed.

The more I was lied to, the less trusting I became. The more I was cheated on, the more reactive I became. The more I was yelled at the more explosive my own temper became. On the whole, I'd say I could now be placed in the "less emotionally regulated, more highly reactive" category. In fact, I've often told my H that if he didn't want these traits in his wife, then he shouldn't have worked so hard to instill them in me.

 
 
Teri
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DJ

August 23 2004, 11:22 AM 

<<if he didn't want these traits in his wife, then he shouldn't have worked so hard to instill them in me>>

Absolutely beautiful. I'm going to use that if I may.

Teri

 
 
charlie
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Re: Difficult to live with, intense woman

August 23 2004, 12:05 PM 

Teri

Ha, I was thinking the exact same thing but you beat me to it!


 
 
DJ
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Re: Difficult to live with, intense woman

August 23 2004, 1:07 PM 

> I'm going to use that if I may.

Feel free. :D

In the early days when I'd tell him this he would, of course, just blow me off completely. That whole "accepting responsibility for his actions and the consequences of those actions" just wasn't working for him for some reason.

Since we've been in recovery (about a year now) and we've both been working very hard to eliminate the problem behaviors he's finally figured out how true it is.

 
 

(Login Jean150)

:-)

August 24 2004, 9:29 PM 

re: >> In fact, I've often told my H that if he didn't want these traits in his wife, then he shouldn't have worked so hard to instill them in me.<<

Yes, DJ. Absolutely brilliant.

Jean

 
 
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