Japanese designers have filled the gap in lonely, single ladies’ beds by creating the Boyfriend Arm Pillow, a partner who will happily hug them to sleep — without making any demands.
The pillow comes with two shirts in blue and pink, which can be washed and ironed to enhance that loving housewife experience. One model is also an alarm — the boyfriend’s body shakes to wake his sleeping girl.
Don't worry guys. They're considering a girl pillow too. Although it looks like it will be more expensive.
...do they have one that snores incessantly, steals the bedsheets and ignores the phone/kids/alarm and whatever else might be going on in the home during sleep?
Work for what? Giving up all pretense of dignity? Giving in to power, control, and domination games? Giving up enjoyment? Giving up on my expressed belief that love is a two-way street, and sex between lovers is the highest expression of that love?
A man should make demands in bed with complete confidence.
He should do it in a way that makes her feel wanted and safe.....not used and abused.
He should then meet with consensual-sensual submission, love, affection, and passion.......until and if she feels like making demands in bed with complete confidence, whereby the cycle reverses.
I was thinking along the lines of either a hot black Italian shirt, or a soft broken-in organic cotton shirt in natural lichen.
Maybe I'd need both.
jbean,
Go to Target and get an alarm clock with natural sounds. I wake up to digitalized seagulls every morning. There are other choices on my clock such as ocean waves or chic-a-dees.
Maybe you could get a Boyfriends Arm Pillow with a voice alarm that says, "Make me breakfast!"
" man should make demands in bed with complete confidence"
Yep, that's what I'm talkin about.
Chris and Bart
Sometimes you can both be pessimists :>) I'm just kidding guys. Some women actually love sex, to be touched, kissed and everything else but I must say that if the relationship is going the right way and both are putting in 100%, then both partners will be driving each other nuts in bed and crap if I had that now, I'd be demanding and I'd expect him to be too LOL! Like WR said, the kind of demanding that makes you feel wanted and loved. Okay, maybe that isn't demand after all but the thought of someone demanding it is kind of a turn-on at this point LOL.
Charlie
Edited because Charlie wonders if she said to much LOL!
This message has been edited by hurt288 on Oct 9, 2004 10:45 AM
I had that once, in a long-term relationship before I was married, and thought it was happening again. So, of course, my disappointment was greatly magnified when that wasn't the case.
<<Don't worry guys. They're considering a girl pillow too.>>
I would assume that they would create a realistic girl pillow. One which would wait until we just started to fall asleep, then it would tell us we've done something to piss it off. But not tell us what or when.
... and it would be just my luck to get the model that doesn't -- the one with the arm that hooks around the covers and then FLINGS them off in the middle of the night.
This has some great possibilities. Just think guys, you wouldn't have to go through all that snuggling s#!t. You just hand her this pillow and role over and go to sleep like God intended.
>>There are men out there who make love, snuggle, and talk your ear off afterward .... by choice<<
Those are the kinds of guys who should have more consideration for the rest of us insensitive and boorish mortals. Those are the kinds of guys who give the rest of us insensitive and boorish mortals a bad name. I hate guys who give insensitive and boorish mortals a bad name. Should guys who give insensitive and boorish mortals a bad name be allowed to reproduce?
Maybe I should've seen the writing on the headboard when:
instead of talking, he turned on the TV LOUD;
instead of sex, I was a masturbation vehicle; and,
instead of snuggling, he got up and went out to bars.
It's amazing how self-deceiving one can be.
Let's cross our fingers that at the old axiom about old dogs and new tricks pertains to second significant relationships. Our next significant others will start out as talkative, flirty, sensual, sexual, snuggly beings and not change. I can dream, can't I?
>>Let's cross our fingers that at the old axiom about old dogs and new tricks pertains to second significant relationships. Our next significant others will start out as talkative, flirty, sensual, sexual, snuggly beings and not change. I can dream, can't I?<<
I may be biased, but divorced men are a very good deal, IMHO. They're already house broke - somebody else took care of that. Divorced men aren't totally perplexed by women [well, they probably are totally perplexed by women but they're better able to make it look like they know what's going on]. Is a guy who has never been married likely to hold your purse for you? That takes a top notch training program over many years.
There seems to be a gender biased difference relative to the activities played out in the bedroom. Women seem to focus on talking, snuggling and sex (not necessarily in that order) while many men focus on completion of the sexual encounter and immediately going into dreamland (or snoreland as the case might be). After exhaustive research in this area, I believe that men and women would feel less disappointed if they were to talk about and agree upon ground rules, or rules of engagement as it were. I suggest a time period of five minutes between consumation of the act and commencement of sleep. During this period, the couple can engage in any discussion, cuddling, snuggling, declarations of affection, presentation of gifts, or whatever else they agree upon doing. After the five minutes, its lights out, nighty nite, see you in the morning. Comments?
""I suggest a time period of five minutes between consumation of the act and commencement of sleep. During this period, the couple can engage in any discussion, cuddling, snuggling, declarations of affection, presentation of gifts, or whatever else they agree upon doing. After the five minutes, its lights out, nighty nite, see you in the morning. Comments?""
Hmmmm 5 minutes....oh yes and when you are getting oral sex....there is a 5 minute limit. If you aren't done oh well it was agreed upon in the beginning
Give me a break......you guys are scaring me! If this is what single guys are like I NEED THE DAMN DOLL WR......
Alonzo I look at it this way...if sex is that boring that you fall asleep within minutes after, you need to find a different partner. Usually takes several minutes just to recover, doesn't it???
AND BTW I have recently been seeing a very nice gentleman that likes to snuggle before and after for as long as he can, talking is optional. Snuggling, kissing, foreplay.......yep they actually can happen and he isn't gay guys!
{{{{Kim}}}}
AND BTW I have recently been seeing a very nice gentleman that likes to snuggle before and after for as long as he can, talking is optional. Snuggling, kissing, foreplay.......yep they actually can happen and he isn't gay guys! .........haven't seen you in quite some time, thats where you've been!!!!!
Charlie wrote >>Do we need a wooing 101 class here?<<
Oh, yes, please. When do we start?
>>"You can't change a man and even if you could, the only person who'd ever appreciate it is his next wife."<<
Well there's something for me to look forward to.
>>I suggest a time period of five minutes between consumation of the act and commencement of sleep. During this period, the couple can engage in any discussion, cuddling, snuggling, declarations of affection, presentation of gifts, or whatever else they agree upon doing. After the five minutes, its lights out, nighty nite, see you in the morning. Comments?<<
I'd only add that a notarized copy of this agreement, signed both by the party of the first part and the party of the second part, be posted in a conspicuous place, preferrably on the headboard.
>> ... and when you are getting oral sex .... there is a 5 minute limit <<
Five WHOLE minutes? Deal. Better mount a stop watch on the headboard while you're at it.
>>AND BTW I have recently been seeing a very nice gentleman that likes to snuggle before and after for as long as he can, talking is optional<<
There's always one out there. Name and address, please. My cousins Guido and Nicky would like to have a chat.
>>>...if sex is that boring that you fall asleep within minutes after, you need to find a different partner. Usually takes several minutes just to recover, doesn't it???<<<
1. Sex is not boring, that is not what makes us want to fall asleep.
2. I agree that i need to find a different partner, but not because sleep is desired after sex.
3. Several minutes to recover is about right. Then we fall asleep.
>>>...if sex is that boring that you fall asleep within minutes after, you need to find a different partner. Usually takes several minutes just to recover, doesn't it???<<<
I'm guessing all of this could be resolved pretty easily by (a) celebrating our (fe/male) differences, (b) looking at brain chemicals, and (c) celebrating our different (fe/male) brain chemicals. In women, sex inhibits re-uptake (and thereby increases the concentration) of the brain chemicals known as letstalkyinin and it's stereoisomer letscuddlyinin. In men, sex inhibits re-uptake of the brain chemicals whaddyasaywejustgetsomesleepinin and snorecor.
>>We's gettin old, if that is what y'all thinkin about after makin out<<
I guess that's right, now that I think of it ... back in the old days, there'd be Letterman or going to see a movie or sailin or a candlelight vigil at the state pen or calf ropin or breakin up a pillow fight in the kids room or canoein or choppin firewood or ... somethin.
>>5 minutes...ummm wowwwweeeee that's all i gots to say on that!!!!<<
>>a little sharing (isn't that how we find out what each other likes?)<<"
Maybe us women are a little more embarrassed to say what we really like but for some reason (for me anyway) it is easier after we've shared something that personal with each other and hey what the heck it is always nice to experience something a little different too:>)
Yep body rub for the partner or at least some carressing must follow.....if it isn't in our rule book im putting it there!
Ah yes Bart the wonder of youth....did i mention the guy im seeing isn't 30 yet LOL
OH and yes my husband would instantly run from the bed the moment he was done "his thing". To the shower, to the livingroom....anywhere he was away from me it would seem. Yet for some reason he managed to please the OW....Hmmmmm how the heck does that happen anyway? (Oh Bart pleeez don't tell me )
This message has been edited by Canuck_Kid on Oct 14, 2004 6:42 PM
>>OH and yes my husband would instantly run from the bed the moment he was done "his thing". To the shower, to the livingroom....anywhere he was away from me it would seem. Yet for some reason he managed to please the OW....Hmmmmm how the heck does that happen anyway? (Oh Bart pleeez don't tell me )<<
That's a deal. I won't tell you if you won't tell me why my X was doing more or less the same thing.
>>and you are????<<
Old enough to know better but young enough not to care?
>>There's gotta be something to this "running from the bed" thing<<
Can we agree that if your partner (male or female) typically leaves the bedroom very quickly after sex, that is probably not a Good Thing(tm)? But ... if your partner (male or female) falls asleep very quickly after sex, that is not necessarily a Bad Thing(tm)?
Maybe we can meet somewhere in the middle. Agreed that if your partner runs from the room right away that is not a good thing, but falling asleep quickly is not a good thing either, how about 5 minutes after? :>)
Charlie
This message has been edited by hurt288 on Oct 15, 2004 7:53 AM This message has been edited by hurt288 on Oct 15, 2004 7:47 AM
>>Maybe we can meet somewhere in the middle. Agreed that if your partner runs from the room right away that is not a good thing, but falling asleep quickly is not a good thing either, how about 5 minutes after? :>)<<
Well .... okay then. You've got a deal. Five minutes it is - ten minutes tops. But that's *it*.
Perhaps the worst case scenario is that your partner falls asleep immediately after sex and then (in their sleep), gets dressed (in some flashy new duds), walks out of the bedroom, out the front door, into the minivan, and over to the neighborhood pub for a night cap or two (or twelve).
I will concede that if a man needs to run away right after sex that it could be an indication of a problem.
I also concede that sex frequently occurs at times other than just prior to bedtime. In this circumstance the five minute rule does not apply. However many people prefer to thereafter behave in a somewhat more dignified fashion than the experience moments before. This might entail getting cleaned up and dressed, moving from the bedroom to a less intimate environment, having a beverage or food, and engaging in intimate but perhaps non-sexual conversation.
WRRW:"Another thing I need to know is what men are really thinking when they watch women. I want the truth."
As the line goes, YOU CANT HANDLE THE TRUTH!
But since this is a forum for open sharing.......If I see a shapely derierre ahead of me while waiting in the checkout line, my thoughts instantly turn to what that behind would look and feel like nekkid, bent over, going at it. This happens wether I am happy in my relationship or not, whether I have a relationship or not. Doesnt matter if I had incredible sex twenty minutes earlier, and every night the past week for several hours. It happens even if I have a cold, the flu, diarhea, a sinus infection and a bladder infection at the same time.
Now I don't stand there with my eyes bugged out, drooling on the magazine rack. I'm just saying the thought pops into my head. Its automatic, a reaction, and it typically passes as quickly as it comes up.
And thats the truth....can you handle it?
PS: Alonzo, I didnt copy your idea I was typing this while you posted.
This message has been edited by rustedandweathered on Oct 15, 2004 10:00 PM
I never knew. I'm shocked, and I can't handle this truth.
When I'm in a checkout line and see the male version of yours, these things usually happen (flu or not):
I notice his jeans or slacks. Sometime I notice that they are too large, too small, dirty, or frayed. Does he need new ones? I notice the profile and ponder whether or not he cares if he shaves or gets a hair cut. Does he need a hair cut? Shave? I notice the shoes because they can be an indicator of whether or not he cares about certain things. The shirt is secondary unless it's a bold statement (filthy or overly bright). I often notice hands. I might ponder his job, life-style, children, wife, home, yard, kitchen, garage, car, while I quickly study what he's got in his cart or basket. I hope he'll get through the check-out line fast because I'm impatient. If he's middle-aged, relatively attractive, or what I'd roughly consider 'my type' I'm usually relieved that he's in front of me and not behind.
This message has been edited by WRRW on Oct 16, 2004 8:34 AM
If only he'd lose the glasses and get contacts....
If only he'd eat healthier food.
Men aren't projects; women aren't toys. The feminist movement generally did a wonderful job teaching men the latter, but also seems to have strengthened womens' resolve to "fix" all men.
Or maybe I took WR's tone too seriously. Maybe you were saying that you simply look for clues about whether someone "fits" with you? THAT seems like a really good approach.
They are when I'm standing in line at the checkout counter in the grocery store. If I'm standing in line at the checkout counter in the grocery store then (at least in my mind) the person in front of me is either getting the pleasure of my sighs or a makeover (depending on my gender, of course). Any way you look at it, TRUTH ain't always pretty.
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If thou must love me, let it be for nought Except for love's sake only. Do not say I love her for her smile--her look--her way Of speaking gently,--for a trick of thought That falls in well with mine, and certes brought A sense of ease on such a day-- For these things in themselves, Belovèd, may Be changed, or change for thee,--and love, so wrought, May be unwrought so. Neither love me for Thine own dear pity's wiping my cheek dry,-- A creature might forget to weep, who bore Thy comfort long, and lose thy love thereby! But love me for love's sake, that evermore Thou may'st love on, through love's eternity.
Clean- 50 points
Nice Ass- 10 points.
Not too hairy- 5 points.
T-shirt w/18wheeler and naked woman minus 5 pts.
Nice smile- 20points.
NO WEDDING RING-100 points!!
Truthfully, when I'm shopping I'm too busy concentrating on "what did I forget?" I usually don't check the guys out unless, they are checking me out. HA!
ditto MM....when i look at a guy i acknowledge to myself he has a nice ass. That ends that thought and the thought of OMG I forgot the milk comes rushing into my head.
OHHHHH AND WR " I notice the shoes because they can be an indicator of whether or not he cares about certain things "
YYYeaaaaaaaah sure that's why your looking at the shoes
RW:"I notice his jeans or slacks. Sometime I notice that they are too large, too small, dirty, or frayed. Does he need new ones? I notice the profile and ponder whether or not he cares if he shaves or gets a hair cut. Does he need a hair cut? Shave? I notice the shoes..."
Well am I not surpised by this. You go over details of his appearence and try to figure out who he is. Typical female reaction.
Although I will do this at times, I guess, after the sex fantasy. Somtimes I wonder why people wear the stuff they do. Why does this woman who is otherwise attractive wear her hair in a style that was popular in 1985? Why does this girl have a winter coat on when its September 3rd and it's 77 degrees outside. Why are they paying with a friggin check for $3.82? Why do old people always want to pay with exact change?
The sex fantasy is way more fun though, so I'll probably mostly stick with that.
Hell no. And dont get me started on purses. My wife has to spend at least 2-300 a year on the stupid things. Gotta have one for every season and then she ends up buying one that is too small and she gives that one to her mom and gets another one and she doestn like that one and sells it to a girl at work and gets another one and the strap is too short and she returns that one......aaarrrggh I told you not to get me started.
>>Kenny does hair, I do clothes, if we can find a handbag and shoe guy, maybe we can do a TV show with Simon of American Idol called "Fashion Nazis".<<
Oooo. Ooooo. Pick me. Pick me Mr. Kotaaah. I don't know pumps from loafers but I'd learn if I could be a Fashion Nazi.
I have two pair which are seasonal--One spring/fall and one for winter. I go barefooted all summer.
What I meant was that someone with 250 pairs of shoes, give or take a few, should NOT fall short of one pair for each day of the year. You could have a black pair for Winter Solstice and a white pair for Summer Solstice. Go light gray for Spring Equinox and dark gray for Fall Equinox. Carefully work your way through the color light prism from those four points, graduating through tones from day to day. Only the most discerning eye would catch on to how amazingly tuned in you are to the rhythms of the planet.
You have only two pairs of shoes. And they're identical. Plus one pair of motocycle boots. All you need. Period.
Hmmmmmm you boring accountants.....bet they are black too
Oppps that's right I am one too......hmmmm perhaps I don't fit the mold since I often wear bright yellow, pink, red.....but I do own lots of black suits. All the better to nail you in (from a tax auditor standpoint)
This message has been edited by Canuck_Kid on Oct 17, 2004 6:09 PM
First, using the term "boring accountants" is like saying "round circles". Second, yes Kim, my shoes and boots are all black. They go well with my black pants, white shirts, black sports coats and black ties with which I clothe myself most weekdays. Ok, so I occasionally don a navy blue tie. On weekends, while riding, I wear my black boots, black jeans, black shirt and black leather vest. My bike is black. Beginning to see a pattern here? The question is, am I just boring, dull and unimaginative relative to color (or colour as you Canucks would say) or am I making intentional choices to reflect my outlook on life since d-day. Or both.
I guess I am mature for my age. My youngest son is a year older than me, go figure. The dude called me up from his friends house, "Mom, can I get my ear pierced?" "Well," I said, "your sisters were allowed to pierce their ears when they turned 13, so I guess you can too." Now, aren't I the coolest mom in the universe? I could tell he was expecting a no and had his argument all ready and all he coulds say is, "Wow, thanks mom". lol
jbean
Ps. Now he has two diamond studs in one ear. I won't tell him it looks kind of girly to me, nope, got my mouth zipped on that one. He thinks he is stylin.
Kim, my answer would be calm, cool and collected. I would say you can pierce anything you want when you are 18. I will give permission to ears only under my roof. You could do what your sister did and pierce your nose all by yourself and let it get nice and infected like she did. Any piercings done without permission, you have to do them yourself and take the risk of infection.
jbean
Where do some of those piercings go? I mean--where's the other end of the thingy hooked on at? Did they go inside the skull and put them in there? I don't get it! Brain surgery for pierced ears? What will they think of next?
My goodness. Can anyone else make out the Green Zone, the Sunni triangle, Falujah, Najaf, Basra, and Al Zarqawi in that acupuncture map? That's eary, I mean eerie.
