KARAVANOPOULE:

>>>Don’t hold your breath dear Greco.<<<
You do have a permanent hallucination:
You constantly think that I am a Greek. How many times do I have to state that I am not?
But, for your liquid brain, simplicity is the the key for understanding the world.
If someone knows Greek he is a Greek.
If someone seems to support Greeks, when he thinks they’re right, then he’s definitively Greek too.
Words like “Greek”, “Hellenism”, “ENOSIS”, “EOKA”, “Megalo Idea” etc, sound like a nightmare into your turkish brain.
Obviously, this organ works like a trobone into a flying suit of armour…

>>>Besides, I wasn’t aware that what lies beneath our feet is justification for genocide.<<<
That is a quite a reaveling statement.
1st of all, apparently, you do not have idea of the importance of “what lies beneath our feet” has. See, your nation, never realy had anything to exhume from the grounds it conqured. Nothing written, of course. Perhaps some blood stained Ottoman swords are waitng their time to be exhumed – that is all. But, your civilization (?) never created something to worth of. This is a good reason you do not understand. You are excused.
2ndly, what is that genocide you are talking about?
You do not of course mean the bicommunal conflicts during the ‘60s.
In that period, TCs were killed by GCs and GCs were killed by TCs aswell.
You can recognise a true genocide from the fact that in the place you live (or you have made the “cleansing”) is filled with creations of some other, different than yours, civilization. For example, you feel unable to read the Greek inscriptions on a marble or on a grave or a statue, you feel unable to connect your race’s history with the surrounding architecture and, of course, you feel incapable to remember when and hoe the house you live in was builded by you: that is explainable, because you never builded it – someone else did that – you just stole it and use it.
That is a real genocide symptom, together with the fact of 4 – 5000 dead corpses of men, women and children buried “beneath yor feet” during your millitary attack against an unarmed small island.
So, don’t come here and moan for “a killed baby in a bathtub” as a measure of Greek barbarocity. If so, the whole Greece with its islands and Asia Minor, plus Cyprus, should be a permanent and filled with exhibits of Turkish barbarocity – so well known from the rest of the nations, worldwide…


>>>Who was there first and when, is purely academic.<<<
It is fascinating the way you are passing by the facts.
Name it academic – and you cleared up! Ha ha ha ha!
My poor friend, I certainly know that the Turks have exactly this way of thinking. Especially when the thing comes to the de jure check point!


>>>Perhaps I’m wrong, perhaps modern Egypt or Syria should also lay claim to Cyprus - a visit to one of you museums would prove that.<<<
But you see, Egypt and A-Ssyria, have their own history, place and past. They do not actually claim anything from Cyprus, like some others we know, who are emptied from culture and notable history – if we exclude butcheries, of course!
On the other hand, you cannot possibly be so obtuse not to understand that, even if GCs are Egyptians or Syrians or Martians, it has not any practical worth since GCs recognize themselves as Greeks, for some 3000 years now. Besides, this is none of your business – it is Greeks vs Egyptians etc to “fix” the “problem” – and they have already done it – without your intellectual help, thanks God…

>>>We all have fears, mine is of the divine creator - nothing more, nothing less, sorry to disappoint.<<<
I always had an “allergy” towards people that believe ( and…fear? Why fear?) in the “divine” creator. They are not necessarely the most perceptive minds…

>>>You avoid mentioning General ‘Dighenis’ Grivas and the Ethniki Organosis Kypriakon Agoniston, otherwise EOKA, who infact also slaughtered hundreds of your brothers…….…This, Greco is where history in Cyprus begins.<<<

Turko, I am not going to apologize to you for the nazi/fascist Griva.
I am not going to describe you either, about the role of G.Britain, the Bases, NATO and State Department. Not even Eden, Harding, Suez and Nasser, nor the special articles in the agreedment for the Indepentence and the role they played for the behavior of USA, Kissiger and Millitary Turkey. Not even the special interest of Israel on the island. And, of course, other issues – internal or external in relation to the island.
I can only write here that, you have a very naïve perception of what was happening in Cyprus, at that time.
If you want to have just a tiny part of a clue, just take a look at the results of Turkey’s policy in the island:
Bases are still there, the sponsions for NATO in Communication’s installations in triumph, people with their prioperties stolen and an island with the highest ratio of millitarization in the world. About 1/3 of the population lives in isolation and poverty while the Cyprus State and its capital city is the only place in earth divided artificialy in two. And, of course, the insecurity that both communities feel, will never stop.
Not to mention the huge ammounts of currency, spent for armaments’ race.

That’s why the up to date current policy and mental attitude you carry, is counter-productive and destructive. The only correct solution, is a democratic State, into the warm hug of mother Greece. And you, a valid Minority which by all means will enjoy the civilized, modern and European life that Greece does.
One way or another, the whole thing moves toward this, by itself.

You just have to agree. Just that – no more than that.
But then again, if you don’t, who really cares?

History is moving forward and the Dreams, are already taking their revenge…!

Mr BixBix,
It is not me who attempts to delete any history and then to rewrite it to suit my own agenda, then spend the rest of my life trying to convince the World of what I want them to believe or it's legitimacy...if you know what I mean

I merely provide a board of information for my valuable audience to channel and encourage all to have their say.

You are NOT doing that.

You are trying to collect every article or "information" that suits your very purpose: To slander Democracy of Cyprus, a respectable and recognized by the UN State.
That's what you're trying to do.
And for this purpose, you use any prejudiced site or article you may find through the net or elswhere.

The fact remains: Cyprus, is illigaly occupated by a millitary country for almost 30 years.
This is written and acknowledged by all legal and civilized nations.

Your separatistic effort is much more worse than the Kurdish one. At least, Kurds are trying to gain back the lands that they were living since antiquity. One might say they have a clue.
You, are trying to separate a land that you are hosted at, the last 400 years.

Or were you the...native residents?

Doesn't matter if you can't FACE the truth. There it lays for everyone to see and understand, your expansionism and aggressiveness.

Thrace, Dodekanese, Aegean Sea islands and islets, Cyprus...
All in a row.

Enjoy your "democratic" state.
Enjoy your millitary mentality.

Does that mean that the USA should also be returned to the Native Indians, or Australia be returned to the Aborigines, or Cyprus to the Ancient Romans...would you like me to carry on ?

Where in the History of mankind has Greece or the "Hellenes" ever been the rulers or Government of Cyprus ? ... Never

You seem to forget that the Ottomans were your saviours and preservers who allowed you to co-exist & flourish with us...their descendants.

Without us you would not have existed today...Now, I know you find the TRUE facts of your existance hard to swallow, but until you can come to terms with the HARD FACTS & TRUTHS about Cyprus, the World will continue to ignore your arrogance...just like they have for the last 30 years.

If the so called "Greek Cypriots" of Cyprus were so innocent and the victims of being so called "displaced peoples", don't you think the World would have done something about it after 30 years ?

The World obviously recognises the injustices through history towards the descendants of Ottoman Cypriots on behalf of the so called "Greek Cypriots"...the self proclaimed representatives of all Cypriots.

The only way your fascist race could get a sniff at such deeds was to try and exterminate Native Cypriots in the early 1960's & 1970's in which your race miserably failed to do...and now you sit and cry over spilt milk...it takes time, but you will get over it.

Learn to respect your Great Grandfathers...The Ottomans...you fascist pigs !

Does that mean that the USA should also be returned to the Native Indians, or Australia be returned to the Aborigines, or Cyprus to the Ancient Romans...would you like me to carry on?

Not really.
You have managed to become redicolous from these very first lines.
Native Indians, Aborigines and Ancient Romans, are NOT the preponderant people in their historical lands anymore. Especially Romans, never were in Cyprus. But Geeks were and still ARE.
It is the same thing as to describe a USA filled with native Indians by 80% and Turks by 18% the latest demanding to govern (the rest been other races). Shouldn’t it be returned to Indians in this instance?
And if not, why not?
So…you don’t actually should carry on.
You have managed to describe yourself as cretine, in just one phrase..

But, let us study the text of a cretine…

Where in the History of mankind has Greece or the "Hellenes" ever been the rulers or Government of Cyprus? ... Never

That is a good enough reasoning for a 2 class elementary school educated person – but not for an adult. With an exception of a degenerative brain disease (which is all the same with the turkish way of perceptivity).
So, when you rule it, you have the right to “own” it through centuries – even if you loose the dominance on this – right? JUST because, ONCE upon a time, you owned it (killing and butchering the native population).
So, it is a matter of…administration!
Not the cultural characteristics!
Not the people or people’s consciousness!
Not the historical gainsaid facts!
Not the continuity of the Greek traditions and language on the island!
All these above do not consist “ruling” a place. They are “details” into the degenerated turkish mind – isn’t it?

You seem to forget that the Ottomans were your saviours and preservers who allowed you to co-exist & flourish with us...their descendants. Without us you would not have existed today....

Is that the way they explain to you the FACTS in your elemnary school boy?
National Turkish Obsession my little friend…
The Latins, the Orthodoxes, the Turks that “emancipated” the Chrisians from other Christians…ha ha ha…
But the parcel is empty my dear idiot.
Ask your teacher.
If that IS so, how come and in the Western Greece’s Ionian 7 Islands (were Turks NEVER “liberated”) were the most advanced in a matter of civilization and culture (even today) from the rest of the Helladic area? Latins (Catholics) WERE there (Europeans generally) untill the mid 1800’s – and the islands were flourished in Arts and Letters, keeping their Orthodoxy INTACT throughout the centuries? Even TODAY you can indentify the cultural advandage in these 7 Islands in comparison with mainland Greece, were Turks (Ottomans) were the “administrators” – better say the Tyrants.
Ask them.
I am sure, they ‘ll have a best “explaination to give you…But, do not bet too much on it...
“Without you, we wouldn’t have been existed today” – and of course, we wouldn’t have been cultured or advanced – as YOU were our TEACHERS.
But, then again…
What was it the politismic influence and progress you granted Hellas? In Art? In Letters? In Philosophy and Science?
Can you enlighten me?
Tell you: Ferociousness – Beastliness – Atrociousness and Savagery.
THIS is the heritage you let us live with on your entrance in our world. And, for almost 180 years now, we are trying to get rid of your horrific influence on the hellenic world. And, as you can see, we can manage it very well now that we got rid of you.
It’s YOU who still live the cultural desert of the primitive ottoman sheperd, up to now.
And THIS is the reason, the REAL one, that Turkey will take more than 40 – 50 years to join the rest of the civilized world, to join the EU spirit.
Which is, a Grecoroman spirit (and you feel in need of that!).

If the so called "Greek Cypriots" of Cyprus were so innocent and the victims of being so called "displaced peoples"…

“So called” displaced people?
On your logic, 200.000 people out of 600.000, i.e. the 1/3 of the population pushed in the southern part of the Island of Cyprus were NOT displaced actually but they were just “so called” ? Who are you trying to trick re budala? Does it really have a tiny part of your turkish brain been saved intact? Have you loose the contact with reality and the meanings or the definitions? It is called “Ethnic Cleansing” re, not “so called”. Look around you re. Why all these houses that you live in have not been builted by you? You till the earth that you never bought but it was given to you by a “soldier”. You till the earth and you constantly find ancient objects that were never belong in your skimpy culture and then use them to “attract” tourists: What will you tell them? Hoe will you explain or translate the Greek words that are written onto your findings? Huh?
Of course.
You will “name” them “Roman” findings – and the cleansing was covered – or you think so…

…don't you think the World would have done something about it after 30 years?

Why are you isolated and your piggy leader is crying constantly for “recognition” re poor guy?
Or you think that the civilized nations are just like you or think just like you – attack them!.
It is only YOU who think THAT way, you sad farts!
“Done something” means WAR for you. Means violence. If the efforts (“done something”) are diplomatic, this is NOTHING for you…
You turkish soul will take a LONG time to abandon you…


The World obviously recognises the injustices through history towards the descendants of Ottoman Cypriots on behalf of the so called "Greek Cypriots"...the self proclaimed representatives of all Cypriots.

Not the “self” proclaimed…
The UN proclaimed representatives.
It is YOU that realy are SELF proclaimed “trnc”.
Your effort to reverse the facts and the Truth, is naive and childish…
It is YOU who ask for “recognition” – not the Greeks.
Remember?


The only way your fascist race could get a sniff at such deeds was to try and exterminate Native Cypriots in the early 1960's & 1970's in which your race miserably failed to do...and now you sit and cry over spilt milk...it takes time, but you will get over it.

The milk is produced and packed in Democracy of Cyprus.
And your turkish co-patriots, are trying to drink a few sips of it.
This is why they are trying to pass your bobwire fences and get a help at their natural environment – The point is that they are so DESPERATE, that they’re trying to drink the milk, even the spilted one!

Why have you brought your population in such a condition re, useless turks?

Learn to respect your Great Grandfathers...The Ottomans...

I DO respect them!
Whenever I visit my W.C., sitted on my lavatory pan and feeling this special “evacuation” feeling, there I cry: here comes the Ottoman!



you fascist pigs!

It could be worse though…
We could have been Turks.