PRESIDENT MEHMET ALI TALAT SAID THAT THE MAIN AIM OF THE GREEK CYPRIOT LEADER TASOS PAPADOPULOS IS TO MAKE THE TURKISH CYPRIOTS SLAVES ON THE ISLAND


President Mehmet Ali Talat said that the Greek Cypriot Leader Tasos Papadopulos was aiming to transform the Turkish Cypriots living on the island into slaves.

The President’s words came during an interview with a daily German Newspaper.

Speaking to the newspaper, Mr. Talat described the Greek Cypriot leader Tasos Papadopulos as a radical and chauvinist who believes in the superiority of the Greek Nation.

Pointing to the fact that the Greek Cypriot Leader is the unjust representative of the whole of Cyprus both within the European Union and the international arena, Mr. Talat said that Mr. Papadoupoluos’s main goal was to assimilate the Turkish Cypriot people into a minority within a Greek Cypriot State.

Referring to the Financial Aid and the Free Trade Regulations promised by the European Union prior to the 2004 referandum, Mr. Talat reminded that the Turkish Cypriot side had proposed for the separation of the two regulations because it had expected the Greek Cypriot Administration to veto any assistance to North Cyprus.

He added that despite ongoing efforts so far no progress has been achieved on this issue.

Responding to a question concerning the efforts towards the reunification of Cyprus and whether the Turkish Cypriot People’s support to those efforts would continue, Mr. Talat said that Turkish Cypriot People had proved it’s determination towards a solution during the 2004 referendum.

Commenting on his current expectations from the EU, the President said that the international community should remind Mr. Papadopulos that it is his responsibility as the sole representative of the island; so he claims to be, to work towards a solution.

Mr. Talat also said that the European Union should make it clear that the Greek Cypriot political leadership cannot continue to isolate North Cyprus or restrict the political, economic and cultural activities of the Turkish Cypriot people.

Mr. Talat also repeated his call for the launching of direct international flights to and from the TRNC adding that such decisions should be carried out by European Union member states without prior authorization and independent from Brussels.

http://www.brt.gov.nc.tr/

Selam Kibrisli, I've made it at last. Had a little problem on the other side that needed to be sorted out first, maybe you read about it.

Anyway, Tasos is just the present President of the so-called "RoC" who was an EOKA member in the 50's and returned again as EOKA b in the 70's. He and his murdering bunch of swines tried to genocide us in the 60's and 70's but they failed, Tasos now wnats to finish the job that he started back then or die trying.

There has never been and still is no good will or good intentions towards us TC's. The Greeks and Greek Cypriots as before are only after one thing and one thing only and that is their dream of ENOSIS. They didn't win then and they will not win now or any time in the future.

Tasos has realised that but is still showing his people that he is at least trying to raise nasionalism in the GC's so that he can get their vites to win the coming election. Tasos does not want unification because he has to agree that as before 30% of the Governmnet must be occupied by Turkish Cypriots. He will never allow this, his people will never allow this, they. all of them, would rather have the island partitioned then share power with us Turkish Cypriots. The world has realised that now and know who the guilty party is, one by one they are starting to take our side for a change. I am sure that the TRNC's recognition isn't that far away because the world will not wait for the GC's for ever. The EU want the problem solved asap and are rather cheesed of at Tassos, same goes for the US and majority of the rest of the world.

I strogly believe that this year is going to be the best we've had since the Greek Cypriots started the war to genocide us TC's and turn Cyprus into a Greek island. They failed but we will not, TRNC will be recognised.

Regards

Eric Dayi

Welcome Eric Dayi,

Yes, I do agree that recognition can not be too far away.

I don't know that it will be as early as this year though, although I am sure that there will be positive progress for us.

It seems that the other side starts shaking in their boots at the thought of Turkish Cypriots having any rights. They are finally realising that their "control" over us and our future is painfully slipping away from them.

Why is it that we are seen as extremists by the other side the minute we seek our God given basic rights ? We support any compensation towards any victims of the Cyprus conflict from both sides, but the GC lobby machine thrives on demonising anything of Turkic existence. The minute we unite against their extremism, they paint us as the Demon.

When it suits them, we are suddenly the same people...but too late for this tactic I think.

When we don't agree with them, we are suddenly Grey Wolves or Barbarians.

As more real facts are exposed about the injustices towards TC's and we finally begin to regroup as a community and show our unity, the World is finally beginning to see our side of the story at last.

It's unfortunate that we can respect and accept them into our community, but they can never accept us, unless we bow down to their demands.

Eric Dayi: 'is their dream of ENOSIS"

If you really believe this, then there is no point arguing with a man who suffers delusions. You are so out of touch with reality....
Good Luck with your affliction....

Oh, and good luck with the 'recognition' efforts......

Kibrisli, we are "extremist" in the eyes of the GC's because we do not let the same people who hate our guts and would love to see us all dead and gone from Cyprus (and even Turkey) rule us and entslave us.

For the GC's we Turks are not even humans, they regard us as animals who should not walk around without an owner.

They hate us because we are Turks, because we are Muslims and because we wont give the Cyprus, Istanbul and Izmir.

They hate us because they can not rule us as we did them for over 300 years as the Ottoman Empire.

They hate us because of their failed ENOSIS dream.

In Cyprus they hate us because we tell them that we are Turkish Cypriots and the exact same Turks as from Turkey and not just "Cypriots" as they want to make us believe.

They hate us becasue they lost their lands while trying to kill us and steal our lands.

They hate us even more now than ever because they also know that the recognition of the Turkish Republic of Northen Cyprus is imminent.

There are thousands of reason why they hate us and will never share power with us in Cyprus but their present stance is working in our favor and is the reason why the international community is turning away from them and for this they hate us even more.

I don't want to live amongst people who hate and that's why I want the island partitioned and the Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus recognised and recignised it will be.

They can hate me all they want to, no skin off my nose.

Ptolemy
"If you really believe this, then there is no point arguing with a man who suffers delusions."

Than why do you bother to respond in the first place?


Ptolemy
"You are so out of touch with reality...."

Am I really? What is the reality? Why is it than you want and why do you insist on being the sole "legitimate" government of the whole of Cyprus?

Ptolemy
"Good Luck with your affliction...."

I think the only one with "affliction" here is the GC's mate, they lost the war and now they are losing the political war as well.

Ptolemy
"Oh, and good luck with the 'recognition' efforts......"

Thanks, and don't worry, you'll be one of the first to hear about the news of the recognition of the Republick of Northern Cyprus.

'Than why do you bother to respond in the first place?'

....i'm just reminding you of your delusions....

As for the 'recognition' issue - like i said, 'good luck', seriously

Ptolemy & Eric Dayi, your views and input is always welcome.

Although all our views may not be the same, I appreciate everyones approach to respect one anothers freedom of speech without resorting to personal attacks

Cheers & Thanx

Ptolemy,

Save it mate, I am not delusional ans I am sure you know it. Just look at what's happening all around you at the moment.

Kibrisli,

There will alway be someone who will attack me or you personally for speaking out our minds. These are people who do not like to hear what we have to say, unless of course it's what they want to hear and we all know what the GC's want to hear, don't we!

Kibrisli, i take your point and i'm sorry for the insulting characterisations but i get a little angry when Cypriots open their mouths without thinking, and talk about 'Enosis' as if it's the aspiration of Greek-Cypriots. This is not the reality at all. Hence my accusation of Eric being 'delusional'.
I apologise for attacking you personally Eric, but you should talk to your neighbors in the south to get the true picture. I think your opinion is tainted by years of listening to the likes of Dentash.
No one seeks an 'Enosis' other than the 'European Enosis' - The European Union is called 'Europaiki Enosis' in Greek. This is the only Enosis that Greek-Cypriots and Greeks want and it should be the only 'Enosis' that Turkish and Greek Cypriots should aspire to achieve, together.

I think the new Greek Foreign Minister (Dora Bakoyannis) will 'persuade' Papdopoulos to at least negotiate with Talat. Her appointment as Greek foreign minister following the cabinet refushuffle is the best thing that could have happened for our bilateral relations. I think the hard-headed gerotocracy that ruled Greece is gradually being dissolved by Karamanlis and i think the new breed of politicians are more conducive to finding solutions to the Cyprus problem and wider Greco-Turkish disputes than the 'old guard'.

For the sake of Cypriots and our island, let's hope so......

http://www.knowledgerush.com/kr/encyclopedia/Dora_Bakoyannis

Ptolemy:
"Kibrisli, i take your point and i'm sorry for the insulting characterisations but i get a little angry when Cypriots open their mouths without thinking,"

Do you mean something like jumping in without thinking and insulting people who dare to speak their minds?

Ptolemy:
"and talk about 'Enosis' as if it's the aspiration of Greek-Cypriots. This is not the reality at all. Hence my accusation of Eric being 'delusional'."

I would be delusional if I believed everything you GC's tell me without any proof or no good will coming from your side.

Ptolemy
"I apologise for attacking you personally Eric,"

Accepted, this time but if it happens again get ready for a little bit of an echo.

Ptolemy:
"but you should talk to your neighbors in the south to get the true picture."

No need, we hear it everyday how much you love us and have our best intersts in your hearts.

Ptolemy:

"I think your opinion is tainted by years of listening to the likes of Dentash."

That's a laugh, I think it has more to do with what we had to endure for 11 years at the hands of the Greeks and Greek Cypriots and 42 years of isolation because we would not bow down and let you have it all your way. It might even have something about an EOKA terrorist being elected as the "President" of the so-called "RoC" which hasn't existed since 1963.

Ptolemy:
"No one seeks an 'Enosis' other than the 'European Enosis' - The European Union is called 'Europaiki Enosis' in Greek. This is the only Enosis that Greek-Cypriots and Greeks want and it should be the only 'Enosis' that Turkish and Greek Cypriots should aspire to achieve, together."

The Greek Cypriot side has already got it's "EUROPEAN ENOSIS", after the recognition of the Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus we'll go for the same but separately.


Ptolemy:
"I think the new Greek Foreign Minister (Dora Bakoyannis) will 'persuade' Papdopoulos to at least negotiate with Talat. Her appointment as Greek foreign minister following the cabinet refushuffle is the best thing that could have happened for our bilateral relations. I think the hard-headed gerotocracy that ruled Greece is gradually being dissolved by Karamanlis and i think the new breed of politicians are more conducive to finding solutions to the Cyprus problem and wider Greco-Turkish disputes than the 'old guard'.

For the sake of Cypriots and our island, let's hope so......"

Do you really think that one woman will achieve what the whole has failed to do so far? No, I doubt it very much, TPaps is will never be "persuaded" to sit at the negotiation table either with Talat or any other Turkish Cypriot President because it is his life time ambition to enslave us Turkish Cypriots. He doesn't want to share power with us Turkish Cypriots, he (and others before him) has made that very clear by refusing to negotiate and refusing every proposal made by us Turkish Cypriots and just about by every proposal made by anyone else too.

If we accepted to be a mere minority in Cyprus the Cyprus problem would have solved a long time ago. But we don't agree to this and your leaders will not agree to anything else either. The reason why your leaders do not agree to share power is because if we agree to become a minority Cyprus becomes a Greek Cypriot ruled country and can and will do what ever it wants to do without asking us anything. As soon as Cyprus becomes Greek Cypriot and we become a minority, you Greek Cypriots have achieved your ENOSIS. That is why after so many years as seing us as Turks only now all of a sudden you are trying to make us believe that we are all "Cypriots" and we should live together in a "Democgratically" elected Government whereby the majority rules because you know very well that GC's being the majority will always win. Very well though and a very clever trick by the GC's and some TC's have fallen for it but not all of us and some of those are begining to realise the mistake they made and are changing their minds. If you do not believe me just take Talat for example. When he came to power he begged and begged to unite but even he has now changed his tune and is singing a different song and a lot of TC's are following his footsteps.

Don't tell me that you don't want ENOSIS, you have done absoultely nothing to prove to me otherwise.

^^^You accepted my apology like a true gentleman (sarcasm)

It's very clear that your opinions about 'Enosis', 'enslaving TCs', 'EOKA terrorist President', are those of a person who played 'Genghis Khan' far too often in his youth. I would like to engage with TCs who are of more moderate constitution - you are too close-minded to consider anything that i may discuss in here, so i'll leave you to discuss the issues with yourself

Hi Ptolemy,
Can you possibly suggest or explain, what "realities" Eric Dayi or any one else for that matter, are missing or are to "blind" to see, to suggest other wise to disprove our "exagerated" distrust in accepting to be ruled and dominated by a Greek Cypriot Government ?

Do you believe that "RoC" has shown enough initiatives for TC's to come to "their" party with total trust ?

Under what circumstances or conditions, in your opinion, do you believe would be acceptable or justifiable for GC's to recognise a TC run Government through partition ? (I don't mean to sound ignorant or insulting when asking this question...just interested in how diverse GC opinion may be)

If you feel that this is not a fair question,please explain why...that is if you are still here by choice

REALITIES :
1. Greek Cypriots do not want Enosis of Cyprus with Greece.

2. Greece doesn't want or seek 'Enosis' with Cyprus.

3. The only 'Enosis' which is beneficial for for Cyprus has been achieved, i.e. Enosis with Europe. Apparently, for people like Eric, this is not enough, he wants north Cyprus 'Enosis' with Turkey...

4. Greek Cypriots do not want to kill, harm or denigrate Turkish Cypriots in any way shape or form. In fact, the most recent killings of any Cypriots by the other side have been committed by Turkish Cypriots on Greek Cypriots - Solomou and Isaac.


PERSONAL OPINIONS:

1. 'Trust' must work both ways. So far, the ROC supplies electricity to the north, allows Turkish cypriot workers into the south to make a living, pays their pensions and most recently is evicting Greek Cypriot refugees from Turkish Cypriot owned property and allowing the TCs to return to their homes. What has the 'TRNC' done to gain trust from the Greek-Cypriots? Sold Greek-Cypriot owned property to Brits for PROFIT, created and closed borders for over half a century, occupied the north militarily, refused to accept mutual demilitarisation of the island, has said 'NO' to previous 4 Annan plans. Trust is earned, not given. What has Denktash done for over 32 years to earn GC trust?

2. Cypriots' identities should be independent of Greece and Turkey. We are proud Cypriots with Hellenic and Turkish roots and should celebrate our culture as Cypriots without the need to involve Greece or Turkey. Once again, the only 'Enosis' seekers seems to be the 'TRNC'. Flooding the north with Turkish settlers which now outnumber ethnic Turkish Cypriots. In an effort to 'Turkify' the island for political benefit, Turkey's action will lose Turkish Cypriot culture in Cyprus forever. The only 'Enosis' Greek Cypriots seek is with the Greek national football teams or tennis success ...

"Under what circumstances or conditions do you believe would be acceptable or justifiable for GC's to recognise a TC run Government through partition ?"

Through partition? Never. Turkey does not have the legal right or moral justification to partition Cyprus. This is not my propaganda. 119 countries of the U.N. agree with this. That's the reason why 'TRNC' is not recognised and has INTERNATIONAL economic embargoes for over quarter of a century. 'TRNC''s non-recognition is not down to ROC. You give us far too much credit. The 'TRNC' is a 'non-entity' because it is a 'state' that was unilaterally created by Turkey through military action. It can never be 'de jure' recognised by any nation of the U.N. because it came into 'existence' through countless violations of international law. I hate to rain on your parade but it will never be recognised. Despite the veiled threats from Straw or anyone else. Look at Condo Rice's recent statement to the State Dept. even after the visit of Rice-Talat-Erdogan. Look at the back-tracking of Azeris after they realised the monumentous economic/political consequences of recognising the 'TRNC'. And they are 'TRNC's most staunchest allies.

For the record, i believe a United Cyprus would be the 'fairest' settlement with the political safeguards and TC participation in Cyprus Parliament a la Annan plan. A Greek and Turkish Cypriots run govt. rather than a partitioned Cyprus run by ROC and Turkey. In a divided island, the only people who would really prosper would be the Americans and British........

Ptolemy:
^^^You accepted my apology like a true gentleman (sarcasm)

Well, sorry, didn't know I was addressing a "gentleman". But I might have realised it from the beginning had you not jumped in with insults straight away.

Ptolemy:
It's very clear that your opinions about 'Enosis', 'enslaving TCs', 'EOKA terrorist President', are those of a person who played 'Genghis Khan' far too often in his youth.

Yep,I was, while you were playing a terrorist EOKA member. Which one were you by the way, Sampson, Grivas or Makarios himself?


Ptolemy:
I would like to engage with TCs who are of more moderate constitution - you are too close-minded to consider anything that i may discuss in here, so i'll leave you to discuss the issues with yourself.

It is very clear from your above statement that you will only speak with those TC's who tell you what you want to hear and have closed your mind to anything that you do not want to hear, so, where's the difference between you and I?

Whatever.

Good luck, Genghis

"TC's making their own decisions to what is best for their future and existance through their own Government"

TC's have their own Parliamentary seats in the Republic of Cyprus govt. They have always been there, when will the TC politicians take their seats and campaign in elections like in every single other Western democracy in the world?

Do you expect the British Pakistanis, British GCs/TCs or any other group in the UK to have their own separate government? This is a ridiculous and totally unprecedented demand.
TCs in Cyprus, like GCs are welcome to run for election and take the seats available to them in the Parliament of the ROC, just like every other democratic system in the western world.

Any Parliamentary action in proposing and implementing laws will be passed (or not passed) by both GCs and TCs, so what are you frightened of? This is the normal functioning of a democratic system.........it will be even more democratic, transparent and politically sensitive for both GC and TC cypriots, given the EU status of Cyprus...............

Kibrisli,
I didn't say TC were migrants in Cyprus. I'm afraid you are according me statements which i didn't make. Please don't become another Genghis Dayi.

"You can not compare us to being migrants in our own native country."

Are the British Pakistanis or the British TC/GCs 'migrants'? Where did you get that assertion from? They were born in uK and they are just as 'British' as the average 'white' indigenous Brit. They are free to become MPs, councillors, and are afforded FULL rights in the democratic process, just like TCs are afforded the same rights in the RoC Parliament.

Should these groups in the UK have a government of their own, or should they participate in the recognised government by winning seats via the democratic process of election?

Surely you would agree the latter. But when you apply the same standards to the RoC you want a seperate government.

"Our rights should not be priveleges which are "given to us" by a Greek ruled government in our own country."

Sorry Kibrisli, but please explain how TC Parliamentarians voting FOR or AGAINST laws and policies in the RoC Parliament constitutes 'rights given to us by greek run govt.'. The Cyprus Govt. policies and laws will be made by TCs and GCs alike, how does this constitute a denial of TC rights?

EOKA Potlemy wrote:

"TC's have their own Parliamentary seats in the Republic of Cyprus govt. They have always been there, when will the TC politicians take their seats and campaign in elections like in every single other Western democracy in the world?

Do you expect the British Pakistanis, British GCs/TCs or any other group in the UK to have their own separate government? This is a ridiculous and totally unprecedented demand.
TCs in Cyprus, like GCs are welcome to run for election and take the seats available to them in the Parliament of the ROC, just like every other democratic system in the western world.

Any Parliamentary action in proposing and implementing laws will be passed (or not passed) by both GCs and TCs, so what are you frightened of? This is the normal functioning of a democratic system.........it will be even more democratic, transparent and politically sensitive for both GC and TC cypriots, given the EU status of Cyprus..............."

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What a lot of crap! Until last year TC's living in the South weren't even allowed to vote in the so-called "RoC" and now you are trying to tell us that the TC's have their own seats in the so-called "RoC Parliment"? Oh boy!

Tell me, are the GC's now allowed to sell land to a "fellow Cypriot" if that "fellow Cypriot" turns out to be a Turkish Cypriot?


You are so funny EOKA

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