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February 3 2003 at 10:59 AM

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Reverso Geographique Limited Edition - quick look

February 3 2003, 11:11 AM 

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In-Depth review - JLC Ultrathin, calibre 849

March 25 2003, 8:56 PM 

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First Impressions: Reverso Platinum Two Tourbillon

April 21 2003, 9:12 PM 

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Updated comments - Reverso Platinum Two Tourbillon

November 12 2003, 4:55 PM 

This article was originally published in September 2003 now updated with new information.

(The beautiful Platinum 2 Tourbillon. The tourbillon cage viewed from the sapphire case-back.)

Before actually seeing the Jaeger-LeCoultre Platinum 2 Tourbillon. I was somewhat skeptical and jotted down my cynicism in my mind like so:

- Why not XGT size? Too lazy to design a new and bigger XGT size Tourbillon?

- In a year of so many Tourbillons, who needs another?

- JLC will actually produce 500 Tourbillons in 2 years, probably more than all the other manufacturers combined, in the same period of time. A disturbing thought.

(Jaeger-LeCoultre Platinum 2 Tourbillon, Tourbillon, Power Reserve with a solid gold movement)

JLC created an exceptional Tourbillon calibre 828 in 1993. They managed to squeeze probably the first rectangular Tourbillon movement into a relatively small Grand Taille Reverso case. At a mere volume of around 3cm3, it is probably the smallest- shaped Tourbillon movement even today and it continues to impress the industry after the now legendary 60eme.

(The 1993 calibre 828, a tourbillon in a rectangular Grande Taille Reverso case!)

Platinum is the hardest precious material to machine, and Jaeger-LeCoultre successfully used this metal to make the complicated Platinum 1 Reverso watch case in 2001, which also featured a white gold skeletonised movement.

Ten Years After, the Platinum 2 Tourbillon this year is a natural product evolution, a Platinum Grand Taille Reverso Tourbillon, featuring the new Calibre 848 with full 18ct solid white gold Bridges and plates (small parts are rhodium plated except for the balance which is gold plated).

(Drawing of the Calibre 848 Tourbillon carriage. The carriage alone is made from some 70 parts, weighs only 0.25g. A technical performance in terms of lightness and shape)

The idea of the Platinum 2 Tourbillon was initiated by the JLC Product Development Division, which was led by Stephan Belmont. After consultation with the design department, the required technical specifications were handed to Technical Design Engineer, Ms. Rachel Torresani.

(Rachel Torresani, another impressive project after Master and Master Compressor Geographic.)

Rachel imagined a movement which had to be in harmony with the case, and the tourbillon cage had to reveal itself in all glory. With the help of Computer Assisted Design, Rachel still works with her skilful hands and manually drew the outlines of this new model, which was launched as a limited edition of 500 pieces.

Initially, Rachel designed the tourbillon with a skeletonized Barrel Bridge and embroidered so that some of the wheels could be seen from the dial (see photo one). The idea was subsequently dropped. The management felt that effort should be put into making a great, understated Tourbillon and there is a need to keep the traditional line purity without the appearance of a conscious effort to over-decorate.

(Original Rachel design, Photo 1.)

At one stage, Chief Designer Janek Deleskiewicz wanted a partially opened dial so that owners could dive into the movement. The wheels and the disc for the power reserve would become visible with the jewels and blued screws sparkling amidst the wheels. The idea was abandoned for the same reason (see Photo 2).

(Partially opened dial as requested by Janek, photo 2.)

One of the significant modifications is Rachel's decision to put the power reserve indicator on the exact centre of the dial and indicated the same way as the hour and minute hands. Rachel solved the problem by putting in an additional intermediate wheel to bring the rotation away from the sector (See Rachel's diagram).

(Additional intermediate wheel for the Power Reserve, Here is Rachel’s original diagram.)

In the initial stage, the development team also considered putting the Platinum 2 in a bigger and trendier XGT case, which would be more contemporary and perhaps easier to market. The team finally decided to target purist collectors and devotees who are essentially in pursuit of horological accomplishments and beautiful mechanism, rather than the more fashion-conscious accessory- buyer. Furthermore, it is hoped that this will be the first tourbillon suitable for connoisseurs of both genders.

(Drawings of the Calibre 848 tourbillon cage layout. Note in particular the hand- engraving in the case godrons, politely tracing the outline of the carriage.) )

(The 1946 JLC Calibre 170 Torubillon. If you inspect the 2 photos above, you can tell that the equilibrated aesthetics of calibre 848 are inspired by the 1946 MJLC calibre 170.)

Continuing its tradition of launching a limited edition complication annually is a conscious choice by JLC to bring together the talents of its craftsmen each year. This is in order to rise to a challenge which will then take shape within a Limited Series, delivered over a one to two year period, depending on production constraints.

Having played with and worn the prototype for more than a week, all faults are forgiven and I am now blinded only by the positive attributes of this watch. Let me count the ways:

(Testing the Platinum 2 prototype. My dream job.)

Since 1991, Jaeger-LeCoultre is still the only brand that has successfully mastered the art of making solid gold movement. JLC combined their knowledge of metallurgy, gentle heat treatment & cooling process and unique cleaning procedure to be the only one still able to make a reliable solid 18ct gold movement out of this very soft precious metal.

A newly developed Angled Anchor is used in calibre 848 pivoting the balance-wheel. The anchor and escape-wheel form an angle of 80 degrees. This innovative layout allows more space and ensures that the balance axis is at the tourbillon axis while supporting the seconds hand.

(A regular anchor.)

(An angled anchor.)

The tourbillon carriage houses a balance-wheel with 18 screws, following the purist's tradition. The even number of screws ensures a perfect equilibrium. Four cuttings with threading of only 0.075mm, equivalent to the size of a single hair symmetrically complete the balance-wheel in order to be able to house complementary screws to increase the inertia when necessary.

(The balance-wheel. Note the labelled thread cuttings.)

The calibre 848 with 204 pars and weighing a mere 23g is a genuine gem of craftsmanship. The new "cotes Soleillees" pattern radiating around the tourbillon carriage is a sight to behold. This exquisite movement finishing was never seen in a JLC before. I can safely declare that it is now a Tourbillon finished to the top level and still with a JLC sticker price.

I also like the movement engravings with ink finish, not a particular technical challenge, but pleasantly complementary to the movement aesthetic.

The pointer-type power-reserve display in the centre of the dial is unconventional and initially, a little awkward- looking. It can be hidden behind the minute or even the hour hand at times. It took me just 3 minutes to realize that this power-reserve position is exceedingly rare for a tourbillon. The look does grow on you eventually.

The two-tone ruthenium-grey and silvered shade solid gold dial is also of exceptional quality. Understated, but classy.

Two tests were carried out on all Platinum 2s. The first one guarantees that the carriage is balanced when in all 6 different positions (4 vertical and 2 horizontal), simulating regular wear and tear. The second test ensures that the tourbillon cage will run smoothly and completes one rotation in exactly 60 seconds. This test is performed in 2 horizontal and one vertical positions.

The most impressive aspect of this watch is its ability to be as humble as you like it when wearing the dial up, which has the appearance of a basic watch or to show the movement side with the amazing, fully- decorated tourbillon cage.

(All plates, bridges and dials in solid 18k white gold, all non- gold screws and gears are rhodium- plated, except for the yellow gold- plated balance wheel, to highlight the Tourbillon carriage. Blued steel screws, ink- finished engraving, 21600vph frequency, power reserve of 45 hours, external dimension of 28.64mm x 23.2mm x 4.9mm.)

The fine additional touch is the delivery of the watch presented in a varnished tulip wood case, internally lined with suede lambskin and complete with watchmaker's loupe and gloves!

In summary, this is an exceptionally beautiful watch with top- class finished movement, a classic looking and understated basic watch when worn dial-up, with a solid (beating) heart of gold (movement) and I have no doubt all skeptics will change their minds when they hold one in their hands.

I leave you with this photo I snapped at one of the Channel News Asia filming sessions, where my favourite TV Presenter Lisa Ang was seen wearing a Platinum 2 Tourbillon. Lisa Ang is a popular, versatile and prolific presenter who has achieved celebrity status in most part of Asia and Middle East.

I include this photograph only because I feel the watch looks great on her. It is not meant to imply that Lisa is directly or indirectly endorsing the Platinum 2 or any other watches.



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Master Geographic 142.3.92 Review

October 2 2004, 8:38 AM 

Master Geographic 142.3.92 Serial 0038

Photos are in Photo Gallery

(Sometimes incorrectly referred to as the Master Control Geographic, the correct name according to the instruction book and the manufacturer’s catalog is Master Geographic.) A different model is called Master Compressor Geographic.

This model is 18K White Gold, movement is Calibre 929/3, 38 jewels, sapphire crystal. Weighs about 3.5 ounces with band.

Back of the case has the Master Control badge on a Hunter style cover that opens to reveal the works. Movement is stamped 929/3 and number 5060095.

Main face displays hour, minute, and second hands. This model also has
a date face with “31” in red as a reminder to bump the date forward in shorter months;
and a Reserve de Marche (Power Reserve) indicator with a single hand, calibrated from below 10 hours to the maximum reserve of 40 hours.

Also has a second time zone dial with hour and minute hands. The second zone minute hand is always coordinated with the main dial minute hand and is not independently adjustable. The second zone hour hand is moved with the city displayed in the wide window at 6 o’clock or is adjusted by the crown winder at 3 o’clock. Near the second zone dial is a small day/night indicator.

The second hand on this automatic has nearly a sweep motion with only a barely perceptible jog or hesitation as it goes around. The hand does not stop and go as on a manual watch.

The Manufacturer’s Book of Time Pieces (Edition 2004/2005), page 64 shows an 18K White Gold (142.34.70) “Master Geographic” with a dark grey face. The model discussed here has a light silver color face with silver color hour and minute hands.

Under some light conditions the main hands can seem to disappear because they are similar in color to the face. A slight twist of the wrist brings them back to view since each hand has an angled “fold” down the middle with two parts of the top surface at different angles. With a slight wrist twist, one half of each hand becomes dark grey or black in appearance and easier to see.

The 3 o’clock crown winds the watch in the full-in position. About 15 forward winds will add 10 hours of reserve.

In the full or 2nd pull-out position, this crown moves the main time hands with a hacking second hand allowing this hand to stop while adjusting for more accurate setting. Instructions are to turn the crown clockwise when in the 2nd pull-out position.

In the first pull-out position this crown moves the second zone hour hand.

A 2nd crown (10 o’clock) turns the second zone city dial in the wide window in the 6 o’clock position. This crown can be turned in either direction. As this crown is turned, the city names pass in the window and the second zone hour hand moves.

Caveat: the watch has no provision for setting the second zone for fractions of an hour differences from world times.

To ensure correct time for an unfamiliar city, start with the local city in the lower wide window, then use the 3 o’clock crown to set the second zone to the local time. When any other city is shown in the window, the correct time for that city will show on the second zone face.

The date hand is incremented one day by use of the supplied tool pressed into the Corrector dimple at 2 o’clock. Caution: do not use this feature between 8 p.m. and 3 a.m. when the date change mechanism may be engaged.

Accuracy standard is -1 to +6 seconds a day. This watch loses about ½ second per day.

The same model is also available in Stainless Steel and 18 K Pink Gold.

Watch was fitted with a brown crocodile strap with 18K White Gold deployment buckle. Purchased in New York City September 2004.

For adjustable Winders, recommended setting is 800 Turns Per Day (TPD) in both directions

This message has been edited by MelvynTeillolFoo on Oct 31, 2004 5:39 PM

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Master Moon, ref. 143 24 2A; pink gold with strap.

November 16 2004, 7:14 PM 

This is the Master Moon in pink gold, automatic, with 275 parts, 28,800 vbh with power reserve of 40 hours. The case size is 37mm, although it wears and feels more substantial than that, perhaps because of the weight of the gold.

The dial is silver, but it has a rich, pearl-like appearance. The hour markers that are slivered are beveled, which really gives the dial a nice sparkle without being too flashy.

The date hand is pinpointed with a nice red, crescent moon at its end, and JLC has added a subtle (though I’m sure functional) bend to it that allows the hour hand to pass over unimpeded. The hands are also beveled, and have a stripe of luminova. There are luminova dots at the 12, 3, 6 and 9 positions.

The sapphire display back reveals a JLC caliber 891/448/2 movement, with an oscillating 22k gold weight. Typical JLC refinement and finish abound.

The crown is located slightly off-center of the case, which stands just a bit over 10 mm high, but feels very solid on the wrist.

The day and month appear through two large central windows, and the blued small seconds hand with moon phase indicator share a large circle at 6 o’clock.

A gold, signed JLC folding buckle with padded croc strap tops off a beautifully executed timepiece.

And of course, the requisite wrist shot to close it out. This watch seems perfectly suited for my 7.5 inch wrist.


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Reverso Sun Moon, PG

February 22 2005, 4:33 AM 

Descriptive non-technical review of JLC Reverso Sun Moon

“On your wrist, a small theatre sets the stage for the sun, the moon and the stars. In one smooth swivel, it reveals what is going on behind the scenes. Such is the genius of the Reverso Sun Moon” The Manufacturer’s Book of Timepieces, Jaeger – LeCoultre, edition 2004/2005, Page 121.

The Sun Moon was introduced by JLC in 1999 and remains in the product catalog for 2004/2005. The catalog mentions three guises: 18K Pink Gold, 18K White Gold, and 950 Platinum (limited series.)

This is a review of the 18K Pink Gold model, Catalog ref 275.34.70 (The example watch is inscribed: 270.2.63) Some of the comments also apply to the other Sun Moon models.

Dial, Hands
The dial face of the PG Sun Moon is similar to the traditional silver grey Classic Reverso style but with added complications described below. The center inner part of the dial face and the outer part appear to be of different grey colors but closer examination suggests that the colors are the same but the surface texture of the two areas differs giving the appearance of varying shades.

Guilloche scribed decoration appears in both sub dial areas as finely curved work. The numerals are the bold black style found on the faces of most Reversos. [The White Gold model (ref 275.34.70) has white Arabesque style numerals on a dark blue face similar to the face of the 18K WG Reverso Duo.]

Minutes are marked in a rectangle along the inner edges of the hour numerals. The rectangle curves in and below the Reserve Power dial between the 9 and 12 positions.

The Hours and Minutes hands are centered Blued pointed Baton style; the Seconds dial is off center above and eating the 6 position. The Seconds dial position is concentric with a Moon Phase display. No seconds marks are indicated.

Night and Day Indicator
A Night Day window occupies a half circle just below the 1 position showing a Sun during day hours and Stars on a dark blue background for night hours. This display advances with the Hours hand and can be quickly adjusted by advancing the hands by turning the crown in the pulled out Position 2. There is no separate adjuster or pusher for the Day Night display.

Moon Phase
The Moon display (at the 6 o’clock position) is based on a 29 ½ day phase with marks around the top of the display indicating days 0, 5, 10, 15, 20, 25,and 29 ½ of the moon phase. The Moon display is moved through the phase manually one ‘moon day’ at a time with a pusher located just below the crown winder. A metal pink gold colored tool is supplied for making the adjustment (although some suggest using a softer wooden toothpick to avoid the possibility of scratching the soft gold.)

CAVEAT: The instruction manual cautions against adjusting the moon phase if the hour hand is between 10 p.m. and 3 .a.m. when the moon mechanism is engaged. Best to use the Day Night display to ensure that the watch is in a safe Day phase before adjusting the moon.

Power Indicator
The Reserve De March indicator (between the 10 and 12 positions) has marks to show 0 to 40 hours of power in 10 hour increments. A small blued Baton hand indicates the power status. The user manual states that the watch will run 42 hours on a full wind. The product catalog notes that the watch will run “approximately 45 hours.” The manual cautions against winding past the 40 hour mark or after the winder “lock” point is reached.

Accuracy: Non-Hacking Seconds Hand
The Seconds hand does not Hack (does not stop when the crown in pulled out to allow precise setting of the time). The Seconds hand can be set fairly accurately (but with some difficulty) by moving the Hour and Minute hands in a counter-clockwise direction until the Seconds hand stops then keeping a slight outward pressure on the crown in the pulled out position.

With the Seconds hand stopped at a specific marker, it can be started again (in synch with a timing source) by turning the crown clockwise. Once the Seconds hand has been coordinated with the timing source, the other hands can be moved to set the precise hour and minute.

Accuracy from unscientific observation of one Sun Moon Reverso which has never been serviced or adjusted; variations recorded after running face down, face up, on each side; worn part of the day; partially wound at times, near fully wound at other times: the “test” Sun Moon gained a consistent 8 seconds a day.

Movement and Testing
The watch is ‘adjusted to 5 positions’ according to an inscription on the movement; 23 jewel Calibre 823; 212 parts; 21,600 vibrations per hour, manually wound.

Reverse Side and Works
The watch reverses to a see-through crystal sapphire back showing the movement and works. The movement is hand crafted and assembled, with ‘Cotes de Geneve’ decoration and additional finely curved work. The crystal back shows blued screws securing four bridges; four ruby jewels; and the beat Balance wheel as it turns the Seconds hand wheel. The serial number of the movement is shown in a space between two bridges.

Strap and Clasp
This PG model was fitted with a medium dark brown alligator strap and an 18K Pink Gold Deployant clasp. The Manufacturer’s Timepiece catalog shows the PG model with a black band and mentions that a metal double-blade folding clasp bracelet is available for the gold models.

The strap size is adjusted by placing the stub of the clasp into one of the holes on the strap. If the strap fit seems slightly too tight or too lose and the next hole position does not help, try wearing the watch backwards (upside down) for a few days (with the 6 hour marker at the top and the 12 at the bottom.)

This will move the clasp “embracer” to the other side of the wrist and may result in a better fit. If this fit is better, the strap can be removed and installed with the two parts ‘reversed’ on the watch. This should be done by an experienced watch person with a proper tool since the case can easily be damaged by a clumsy attempt to remove the strap by an eager amateur.

To lock the clasp: press on the end of clasp buckle (on the “JL” symbol) rather than on the middle or forward part; pressing the end gives an easier snap.

Also, when placing the watch on the wrist, the pointed tip of the strap should be pushed into the two Keepers before the clasp is snapped to avoid having to bend the tip of the strap into the keepers after the clasp is closed.

Case and Markings
The case is a Grand Taille size, about 42mm long, 26 mm wide, 9 mm thick; larger than the classic Reverso size but not as large as the Grand Reverso size. Sapphire crystals front and back. The back of the case is inscribed: “Reverso” “JL” “Jaeger –LeCoultre”; a seven digit serial number, and “270.2.63”

The inside “top” of the case is stamped with an underlined “Jaeger LeCoultre”; “Swiss”; a Pine Tree between “JL”; “18K 750”; the head of a Saint Bernard dog (not sure what this means), and another “750” inside a balance scale symbol.

The watch wrapper tag: “6,270,240,632SB” is parsed as follows: “6,270,240” is Reverso Grande Taille Sun Moon in18K Pink Gold; “63” is Calibre 823; “2” is Silvered Dial; “S” is Sapphire Crystal back; “B” is Leather strap with Deployant folding buckle.

The watch with leather strap and Deployant clasp weighs about 3 ounces (90 grams).

Case and watch are resistant to dust and damp, accidental immersion in water should not affect a regularly serviced watch; not guaranteed to be watertight. User manual recommends full service every 4 or 5 years.

Boxes, Manuals, Papers
The PG model comes in the typical dark green paperboard JLC outer box, a dark green leather-like covered and lined inner box with a pillow and adjusting tool. A Reverso user instruction manual, a Livret de Garantie, and a Certificat de Garantie are all housed in a slip case.

Utility, Legibility
The Sun Moon has a visually interesting face with easy to read features. The Hours and Minutes hands are wider at the ends and are quite visible in dark blue against the grey face.

The forward part of the Seconds hand loses visibility as the blue hand crosses the Moon Phase window but this hand has a small Blue Dot extending to the rear of the pivot allowing you to see at least one end of the Seconds hand at all times. Seconds are not very important for this watch as there are no numbers or indicators on the Seconds dial. The Seconds hand is a quick way to see if the watch is running.

The Power Reserve hand is about 5mm long and is quite visible. The scale numbers of the Power window might be a bit difficult for tired eyes to see but this is not very important as the Pointer need only need show its relative position on the Power sub-dial. For all except the most
weak-eyed or perhaps in dim light, a close look will reveal the specific number of winding hours remaining.

The Moon Phase is quite a nice show with the Moon a glorious Golden Orb followed by several golden stars on a dark blue night sky. The Moon Phase day numbers (0 to 29 ½) are moderately visible but are important only when setting the Moon phase on other than Full Moon days.

The Day Night window (a half circle) is small compared to the Moon phase lunette but is enough to clearly show the dark night sky or the light blue day phase. A small Golden Sun greets you each day.

The Hour numbers are relatively thick, black, and bold, on a clean part of the dial; very easy to see. The ‘0’ of the ‘10’ marker is cut slightly to make room for the Power Display but this does not affect readability. There is no ‘6’ mark (eaten by the Seconds dial.)

Sum Up
The dial design of the Sun Moon is well balanced; the complications are as much entertaining as they are informative. For variety, flip to the movement side and watch the works in motion. Both sides, elegantly set off by the lovely pink gold case, will draw compliments. With a 10 power loupe, the finely detailed surface work of the sub-dials and the movement are even more striking.

By not offering the Sun Moon in Stainless Steel, JLC may have placed this Reverso out of reach of some. If a Sun Moon is nearly affordable, take another look, it’s worth stretching the budget a bit to own this great looking watch.

The Sun Moon is an elegant and striking member of the Reverso family, well deserving of its fine reputation and enthusiastic following; a time keeper, a work of art, an entertainment, all conveniently carried on the wrist.

Richard M, February 2005
Photos of the Reverso Sun Moon in Pink Gold, White Gold, and Platinum have been posted by others.

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August 20 2007, 8:11 PM 

Wow,,, what a watch,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,this Jaeger-Le Coultre Reverso,, would be my watch of my dreams.... First it was to own a Zenith,,which now I do ,A Zenith "open face" 40mm which is a Masterpiece.................................Thanks for listening..Mark

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Reverso Grande GMT

March 4 2005, 8:10 PM 

March 2005


The flip side of a Reverso can be a space for engraving or for showing off the movement, but in my opinion the best utility for the flip side is to house a second face, especially a time telling face. This way you can have two different dial aesthetics (having a second time zone is a secondary benefit), almost like having two watches in one.

In that sense I was attracted to the Reverso Duo, but it didn’t have enough “complexity”. I later learnt about the Reverso Geographique, but that was beyond my budget (not to mention hard to find). For a while I despaired about not finding the perfect dual-faced Reverso for myself… then I read about the Grande GMT!

Talk about a feature packed watch! 8-day autonomy, power reserve indicator, GMT, big date, dual faces, night day indicator, etc. I had to see/try one and the first time I saw it I knew I had to have it.


No doubt the new XGT case is large, but not so large as to be uncomfortable to the eyes. I’ve certainly got used to it in the last few weeks and I think it looks fine on my 6.5” wrist. In fact, the normal GT case looks too “petite” now. If I had any issue it’s that the height is a little thick at 12 mm. If it was 10 mm, the height would be perfect!

As it is, the watch will fit under some of my shirt cuffs, but not the tighter ones (oh well, during these times I’ll just wear my RDM).

The case has a lot of polished surface area so it’s a magnet for finger prints!


This is my first watch with a handwinding movement. In the past I avoided handwinds simply because I was too lazy to have to wind them every day or two (another reason why I avoided the Duo and Geographique). With the GMT I can stretch it to 8 days!

The winding is smooth, with a soft ratchety click. Takes me about 52-53 winds to power up the full 8 days (which I understand is very efficient). I was also pleased to know it has overwind protection (that was one of my fears about manual winding, that I’d accidentally overwind the watch).

Although the movement is officially labeled as 8 days, it’s been said that it actually stores more than that. I decided to run down the watch fully just to see how much power it had, mine stopped after 9d 1h 6m. As for accuracy, here are the results of a recent timing test where the GMT is worn during the day and stored at night:

Day 1: -2 s
Day 2: -1 s
Day 3: +0 s
Day 4: +0 s
Day 5: +2 s
Day 6: +3 s
Day 7: +3 s
Day 8: +5 s

I’m happy with the results. For the curious people, I also timed the 9th day and it was -14 s.


I really like the reversing mechanism. Flipping the case I can feel the crispness and precision of the case and can appreciate the engineering behind it.

I prefer the night/day indicator on the Septantieme or Sun/Moon with the gradual transition against a bluish background. Looks more classic and classy.

I like the convenience of having the pushers to manipulate the GMT function. They have a nice and firm feel. The pushers also make the watch look “chrono-ish”.

The watch fascinates my 4 year old son as I use it to show a “magic trick” - one moment white face, another moment black face.


Kudos to JLC for putting out such a wonderful watch. It's a watch I've been waiting for, for a long time - something that blends classic styling with technical excellence and comes with dual faces and many useful features. I'm so glad also that JLC makes their watches in SS and prices them reasonably (relatively speaking). Truly JLC is a gem in the industry!

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