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Ron paul!

June 11 2007 at 4:05 PM
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mensrea

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June 13 2007, 1:53 PM 

Why you don't/shouldn't vote for a guy based on one issue:

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To say Paul has a demented racist view would be an understatement. Here’s a sample:

"Opinion polls consistently show that only about 5% of blacks have sensible political opinions, i.e. support the free market, individual liberty and the end of welfare and affirmative action."

Although "we are told that it is evil to be afraid of black men, it is hardly irrational. Black men commit murders, rapes, robberies, muggings and burglaries all out of proportion to their numbers."
"Black males age 13 that have been raised on the streets and who have joined criminal gangs are as big, strong, tough, scary, and culpable as any adult and should be treated as such."

"The Earth Summit is the creepiest meeting of politicos since the first gathering of Bolsheviks. Officially known as the UN Conference for Environment and Development, it will be held in Brazil in June; bad guys from all over the globe will attend."

"Why do we need the federal government? There's no Cold War and no Communist threat. Many other nations are breaking into smaller and smaller pieces. The centralization of power in Washington occurred in a different time. Why not think about getting rid of the federal government, returning to the system of our Founders, and breaking up the United States into smaller government units?"

http://suicidegirls.com/news/politics/21528/

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June 14 2007, 12:14 AM 

Mens! A PORN SITE???? YOU ARE QUOTING A PORN SITE FOR RON PAUL INFO???? MENS!!! YOU ARE BETTER THAN THIS!! C'MON!!

IF I THOUGHT RON PAUL WAS RACIST, I wouldn't even consider him!!

AGAIN MENS, CHECK YOUR SOURCES!!!

 
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June 14 2007, 12:23 AM 

Mens, Check out this site to see why people are trying to label Ron Paul a racist.

http://www.rys2sense.com/anti-neocons/viewtopic.php?t=7254

 
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June 14 2007, 12:36 AM 

Suicidegirls is not a porn site weav. WTF? Nor is it the only source for the info. There are many. Do your own google search.

MORE IMPORTANTLY these words are from Ron Paul's news letter.

You are supporting a man who is a racist (judged by his own words); and a radical sucessionist; revenuer hating near anarchist.

That is not the America I want.

 
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June 14 2007, 12:39 AM 

I know that Ron Paul is no racist! This is a typical ploy used by the zionists to discredit someone!! There is a huge campaign right now to discredit him because of his stance on the war and our relationship with israel!!

 
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June 14 2007, 12:51 AM 

We're friends Weav, but you let your passion about this subject cloud your judgment.

Sources are my business. I need no lecture from you on sources. The last time I had already disclosed Kos as a liberal whore, the facts posted there were accurate and independently verifiable VOTES cast by Paul.


HERE, 1) not a porn site, 2) one of a hundred that have posted the same exerpts, 3) the original source is Ron Paul's OWN NEWSLETTER!!!!

So, unless you want to prove that he has been misquoted it is WHOLLY IRRELEVENT as to who's server the information is sitting on!

Are you now arguing that AIPAC made Paul publish these sick thoughts to his constituents between 1993 and 1996?? Or are you going continue to argue against his actual record???


Why would you willfully blind yourself to reality? What is it about zealotry that makes that seem like a good idea?

As you know, I don't give two-sh!ts about Isreal. Ron Pauls seathing bigotry is another matter all together. A well documented legacy.




 
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June 14 2007, 1:00 AM 

And I've already seen the excuses that have been given for the bile in HIS NEWSLETTER:

Perhaps, as he has explained, he did not pay attention to what was published. Perhaps he did not take notice. Perhaps he was otherwise occupied. But the rhetoric – the language - is obviously not his. Such ignorance does not inform him.

http://www.freemarketnews.com/Analysis/134/7587/high%20alert.asp?wid=134&nid=7587

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Sorry, it does not pass my smell-o-meter which has never once failed me. I smell BS! Do you think that I would allow my personal newsletter to get out to my constituents claiming that 99% of all whites are ignorant and it's ok to be afraid of Indian's cause there comitting all the crimes??? Give me a break!


 
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June 14 2007, 1:06 AM 

Paul reported on gang crime in Los Angeles and commented, "If you have ever been robbed by a black teen-aged male, you know how unbelievably fleet-footed they can be."

"Given the inefficiencies of what D.C. laughingly calls the `criminal justice system,' I think we can safely assume that 95 percent of the black males in that city are semi-criminal or entirely criminal," Paul said.

Paul also wrote that although "we are constantly told that it is evil to be afraid of black men, it is hardly irrational. Black men commit murders, rapes, robberies, muggings and burglaries all out of proportion to their numbers."

http://www.floppingaces.net/2007/05/20/ron-paul-his-racial-views/

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RON PAUL HAS NEVER DENIED THIS!!!!! WHY DO YOU?

 
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June 14 2007, 1:18 AM 

Agian the reporter here is apparently a jew, BUT this is from >>>1996<<< with quotes from Paul.

LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOONGGGGGGGG before he became a presidential candidate in 2007!!! You would now have to argue that AIPAC has a time machine that allows them to go 11 years into the past an smear Paul with his OWN WORDS!

C'mon Weav!
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Newsletter excerpts offer ammunition to Paul's opponent
GOP hopeful quoted on race, crime

By >>>>ALAN BERNSTEIN<<<< [Probably a Jew! Not tring to hid anything from you Weav]

Copyright >>>>1996<<<< [Evicerates any conspiracy argument!] Houston Chronicle Political Writer

Texas congressional candidate Ron Paul's 1992 political newsletter highlighted portrayals of blacks as inclined toward crime and lacking sense about top political issues.

Under the headline of "Terrorist Update," for instance, Paul reported on gang crime in Los Angeles and commented, "If you have ever been robbed by a black teen-aged male, you know how unbelievably fleet-footed they can be."

>>>>>Paul, a Republican obstetrician from Surfside, said Wednesday he opposes racism and that his written commentaries about blacks came in the context of "current events and statistical reports of the time." <<<<<<<<

[THIS IS NOT A DENIAL!!!!!! IT'S NOT A RETRACTION!!!!!! ITS A LAME EXCUSE FOR BEING A BIGGOTED SOB!]

Selected writings by Paul were distributed Wednesday by the campaign of his Democratic opponent, Austin lawyer Charles "Lefty" Morris.

Morris said many of Paul's views are "out there on the fringe" and that his commentaries will be judged by voters in the November general elections.

Paul said allegations about his writings amounted to name-calling by the Democrats and that his opponents should focus instead on how to shrink government spending and reform welfare.

Morris and Paul are seeking the 14th Congressional District seat held by Greg Laughlin of West Columbia. Laughlin lost the Republican primary to Paul, a former congressman and the Libertarian Party's 1988 presidential candidate.

Paul, writing in his independent political newsletter in 1992, reported about unspecified surveys of blacks.

"Opinion polls consistently show that only about 5 percent of blacks have sensible political opinions, i.e. support the free market, individual liberty and the end of welfare and affirmative action,"Paul wrote.

Paul continued that politically sensible blacks are outnumbered "as decent people." Citing reports that 85 percent of all black men in the District of Columbia are arrested, Paul wrote:

"Given the inefficiencies of what D.C. laughingly calls the `criminal justice system,' I think we can safely assume that 95 percent of the black males in that city are semi-criminal or entirely criminal," Paul said.

Paul also wrote that although "we are constantly told that it is evil to be afraid of black men, it is hardly irrational. Black men commit murders, rapes, robberies, muggings and burglaries all out of proportion to their numbers."

A campaign spokesman for Paul said statements about the fear of black males mirror pronouncements by black leaders such as the Rev. Jesse Jackson, who has decried the spread of urban crime.

[AGAIN, NOT A DENIAL!!!!!! NOT A RETRACTION!!!!!! JUST A LAME EXCUSE FOR BEING A BIGGOTED SOB!]

http://www.chron.com/content/chronicle/aol-metropolitan/96/05/23/paul.html

THIS IS DIRECT FROM THE PUBLISHING PAPERS ARCHIVE!!! NOT A FAKE! JUST REAL HARD CORE TRUTH!
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Deal with it Weav! No one issue candidates!!!

 
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June 14 2007, 4:04 AM 

Mens, We ARE friends..SO let's agree to disagree! If Ron Paul is racist..I want NOTHING to do with that...YOU KNOW ME!!

The simple fact is that Ron Paul has been speaking out against israel LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOONG BEFORE HE RAN FOR PRESIDENT! The jewish lobby has been trying to discredit him for many years. When he ran for congress as a Libertarian he refused money from aipac, That is when it started.

I am against evrything he suposedly said in his news letter, But that doesn't pass MY smell test!

 
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June 14 2007, 4:06 AM 

OOOPS! (MY TYPING FINGER HAS A BLISTER) I meant when he ran for pres as a Libertarian.

 
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June 14 2007, 4:12 AM 

Then why wouldn't he deny saying it Weav. Seriously?

 
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June 14 2007, 4:14 AM 

Besides this one issue is the single most important issue this country has ever faced!! The person willing to stop sending our troops (Black,White,Hispanic,Asian,Native AMERICAN)off to die for israel deserves support! The ONLY one willing to do this is Ron Paul!! MAYBE Obama, I would prefer him to Paul, But he has pandered to the jewish community too much. I'm concerned about his true motives.

 
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June 14 2007, 4:15 AM 

I read in one of your posts that he DID deny saying them!

 
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June 14 2007, 4:18 AM 

Imagine what we could accomplish if Blacks and whites and ALL other AMERICANS banned together for the good of OUR country?? Our gov doesn't want us to do that because the first thing we would do is get rid of them!!

So I ask you mens, Who benefits most by the devision of the races in AMERICA??

 
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June 14 2007, 4:20 AM 

What Famous general said the best way to defeat your enemy is to devide and conquer??

 
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Ron paul!

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June 14 2007, 5:17 AM 

Mensrea, and I, in different ways have said this is a racist nation. MLK and others loosened the rope from our necks in many ways. The white powers have tightenened it in oher ways. Racism is alive and doing very well.

Ron Paul isn't an extremest on certain issues. But like most politicians he isn't concerned with american issues or values, therfoere any dialogue he offers is poor.questionable. His history follows him.

The Iraq war is inhuman. It is equaled only by the Nazi invasion of Poland in 1939. The war is and has been iilgitimate from the start, not just by politicians, but by the entire U.S. population.

Ron Paul will only look to legitimize further confrontations.

The way to peace is solving differences not with excuses and arguments.

There is a very old Christain saying; "I had rather be Happy than right".

Thus far, our nation seeks only to be right.

 
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June 14 2007, 2:56 PM 

Ice, I agree! Racism is alive and well in AMERICA! It ALWAYS will be! There will ALWAYS be those ignorant people(Black,White,Red, and Brown) That just don't get it!

The biggest problem in AMERICA(Besides israels influence) is the financial and social differences, It's mostly about the color GREEN for money!! Ask any poor white kid if they have been attacked or mistreated by the system, You'll probably be surprised!

 
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June 14 2007, 3:58 PM 

"There is a very old Christain saying; "I had rather be Happy than right"." - Ice

I believe this is actually an old "indian" saying.

 
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June 14 2007, 10:27 PM 

Look, Weav the guy believes that their should be virtually no regulation of big business in this country in light of Halliburton, Tyco, World Com, Arthur Andersen, I think this position is ridiculous. The Israel thing he is right on, one hundred percent and that is a big issue.

 
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June 15 2007, 12:22 AM 

POL, maybe so.. But if we continue to allow israel to run our foreign policy...THERE WILL BE NO FRIGGIN AMERICA!!!!

 
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June 15 2007, 12:27 AM 

Insteafd of listenning to third and fourth party info, Or porn sites, ASK THE MAN!! RON PAUL.COM He is under attack by the jewish lobbies!!

If someone told you I was racist... Would you not ask me?
I believe that you are a reasonable and highly intelegent person that would give me the benefit of doubt.

 
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June 15 2007, 12:59 AM 

Under the headline of "Terrorist Update," for instance, Paul reported on gang crime in Los Angeles and commented, "If you have ever been robbed by a black teen-aged male, you know how unbelievably fleet-footed they can be."

>>>>>Paul, a Republican obstetrician from Surfside, said Wednesday he opposes racism and that his written commentaries about blacks came in the context of "current events and statistical reports of the time." <<<<<<<<

[THIS IS NOT A DENIAL!!!!!! IT'S NOT A RETRACTION!!!!!! ITS A LAME EXCUSE FOR BEING A BIGGOTED SOB!]

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Not a porn site, not a third party. His contemporaneous words. This is strange behavior from you Weav. Again, the site I referenced is NOT a porn site. And the offensive language was in Ron Pauls news letter.

Don't act like a necon spin-monkey Weav. You have to accept fact as fact. Again, Ron Paul has never denied any of this. He said he was not racist as noted above. HIS WORDS INDICATE OTHERWISE.

They are HIS WORDS, HIS NEWSLETTER.

Spin? Genetic Fallacy Nonsense? This is not the Weav I know.

 
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June 15 2007, 1:52 AM 

My ealier post mens was a joke! I was only kidding with you about the "porn site". Laugh and the world laughs with you, Cry.. and you must be an AMERICAN!

 
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June 15 2007, 2:04 AM 

Mens, This subject is mute! I admit that he may be racist! MAY BE! Most people ARE racist in one way or another!! Most people refuse to admit fear of what or who is different. I have stated MANY times here.. I would rather know WHO these people are than have to guess who the moron is!

If Obama takes money from aipac he will NEVER get my vote!!!! I would prefer to vote for Obama!! I fear though that he would sell his soul for the presidency along with all other candidates.

The truth of the matter is... I don't believe this country has a chance in hell of surviving the next 50 years! The only one that can save us is JESUS CHRIST!

 
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June 15 2007, 2:08 AM 

I have been fighting this fight for MANY years, It has cost me dearly, More than you could know! I am growing VERY tired of the fight and am starting to think I should quit, Leave ALL these sites and retire!!! Maybe thats just what I will do!

If peopel are soooo stupid that they will continue to follow blindly like sheep and allow them to lead us down the primrose path... MAYBE WE DESERVE WHAT WE GET!!!!!!!!!!!!! I have tried soooooo hard GOD knows!!!!!!!!!

 
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June 15 2007, 5:09 PM 

Weav, the zionists are burning the globe down and you are right to push for getting our democracy back. But, I am starting to believe like you that the cause is lost and we are doomed. Nobody in this country questions, the media is completely biased and deceitful and the politicians are worse. Keep the faith, I know the things you write are the truth. But at this point, American isn't ready unfortunately to wake up from the hypnotic stupor of the zionist lobby. Maybe we need to really bleed and go broke fighting for the zionist cause until people realize and finally give up, maybe it will be too late at that point? Israel is evil, and they are poisoning not only the middle east but they are destroying our nation as well. They certainly have destroyed our independence and sovereingity, we are their bitch and must scums suking neocons can't accept that because so many good republicans love little Israel.

 
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