I have heard this idea floated around and I am not sure if there is a down side??? Read on...

Give Brockville an eastern Ontario Junior franchise. Give Kingston one as well. Keep Cornwall in and Kahnawake as well. Have the two Ottawa teams merge as one organization and create two teams from this one organization. so the Eastern Ontario Junior league would consist of one team from Ottawa, Brockville, Kingston, Cornwall, and Kahnwake. If they played each team in this league twice away and twice at home...that would be a 16 game season.

This minimizes travel for all of the teams involved. The would all be very close in skill level with games being won and lost by all of those teams.

So with this division there is good competition (relative parity) and low budgets.There are other ideas out there that could be expolred as well..Like having a crossover games against the Quebec junior league or the ILA junior league.

The other Ottawa team can continue to play in the OLA Junior B league in the Eastern division.

The only other question is do they get to join the OLA junior B playoffs? Maybe the winner of their league could play a small series with the other Ottawa team to determine if they can replace that other Ottawa team in the OLA Junior B playoffs. The rationale would be that the other Ottawa team has played in the Eastern division all year and they would be aguage to see if the winner of the eastern league would be competitive in the OLA Junior B playoffs.
The next question is... what if the other Ottawa team does not make the OLA junior B eartern divsion playoffs:
Well maybe the series can still take place but it could take place against the 8th place team in the OLA Junior B Eastern division to see if the winner of this league can enter the playoffs there. After a few years the picture will be come more apparent as to whether or not this Eastern Ontario junior league can be competitive in the OLA junior B loop and then the playoffs picture will need to be reviewed.


I am not sure at all where the down side to this is?? could someone please explain this to me??

kingston doesn't deserve a team nor are they ready

would be playing in a league without the Lightning.Our two home games against the Lightning easily out draw our eight other home games combined.

Is your goal to generate money or to promote lacrosse? This will answer you question.

If you generate enough money preseason, you will not have to rely on Akwesasne Attendance, If no-one from Cornwall supports your attendance that means you have no fans

Is this correct?

and how many fans go to Nepean and Gloucester games?

It does not matter how many people go to their games, they obviously have enough money secured to make their financial commitments,

It is only Cornwall who is relying on Akwesasne people to pay their bills

And you don't think Akwesasne doesn't appreciate the fact when Cornwall goes there?

There is the possibility of a crossover with the ILA...That is only an agreement away (between the ILA and the OLA). Then you have you 2 games with the Lightning (who, I am assuming were not included because they have been bought by the ILA (if that information is correct))

Unless the OLA members agrees to have an ILA afilliation, cross-over games and afilliation are pretty well the same, no? Also, the Lightning need the afiliattion with the Junior A's. This is something that could work.
Akwesasne,Massena,Onondaga,Khanawake,Cornwall,Ottawa#2,Brockville, not sure Kingston is ready though. Ottawa #1 could stay in OLA.

There should be an entire East Conference with all parties involved

Then maybe, just maybe, something will be achieved.

Who's idea is this one?

What about it Chad does that idea look familiar??

But I do like the thinking in this proposal as well. I developes the entire Eastern Junior B loop and allows everyone to competitive. The only one who loses is the Ottawa franchise who will now have to pay for a lot of travel to southern Ontario. But if they are will to do that then let them.

Chad..I think that would be the bus you travel on.

So how was Q.C.??

That may be so. I was just repsonding to the above poster that suggested that this looked like something i had proposed earlier. It was similar but I dide not put the thought into the playoffs like this poster has done. In my humble opinion, I like what this poster says and that is why I responded. Enough said.

QC was very nice. Good food, nice people, interesting meetings. Talk to you very soon Rick

This proposal gives you the opportunity to play JuniorB. What don't you like about it??

The ILA and the OLA (if they feel this is a good thing) would need to have an agreement with all of the particulars worked out - eg: who's refs, who's rules, insurance issues, do the points count towrds league totals, etc. This then would allow these teams to play cross over games against each othere but reamin separate leagues. The OLA teams would have a winner and the ILA would have a winner (if the ILA and OLA agree to this). These things would all have to be worked out.

Now having an ILA team affiliate their players with an OLA team is different.. As far as I understand it.... this is no longer possible. Since the CLA has adopted the new player transfer system (which was ratified by all of the members of the CLA (OLA and ILA included). a player that signs in one Member Association cannot play in any other Member Association without a player transfer forms completed and agreed upon by both Member associations. Now I could be completely wrong here....but as I understadn it... This means that the Akwesasne Indians Junior A team will need to find an affiliate team that remains in the OLA.
Maybe someone else can shed some light on this subject..

All I know, is that the entire East League is screwed up, and because of what?

can someone please shed some light on this!

THIS IS ALL SCREWED UP BECAUSE OF MIKE MITCHELL OR ILA BUYING THE LIGHTNING. SEEMS EVERYONE IS AFRAID OF MIKE. WHO IS HE? HE GOES DOWN LIKE EVRYONE ELSE!!

All I know, is that the entire East League is screwed up, and because of what?

can someone please shed some light on this!

There was a precedence of affiliation a few years ago with the Akwesasne Thunder Sr.A(OLA) and a ILA Senior B team, I beleive this is what Mike Mitchell's argument is about.

However, That was more than a few years ago and the CLA has changed the rules since then.. so, this affliation may not be within the rules now...

Aren't rules made and "changed" for the betterment of the game sometimes?
Don't need nasty replies, just a question.

mike mitchell is an expert at changing rules with or without ILA OR CLA permission. why do you think the ILA is in disarray. nothing positive will ever happen if the current ILA board remains in power. shake-up is needed for the ILA to be resurected.if agreements between ILA AND OLA are negociated, it better include the other communities under ILA juristiction, same problems apply there also, so if an agreement is made, it will be good for all, not just who mike wishes.or did he forget that he supposedly represents the other communities, like he sometimes does.wake-up and smell the coffee! think we been railroaded long enough.

I don't believe there ever was an affiliation between the Thnder and any League. I remember the defunct Snye Warriors trying to pull a fast one on the Kahnawake team at the July 1st cutoff. Barry Alfred looked into it and there was no affiliation with the ILA.

I heared that Nepean wonts to affiliate with the Akwesasne Indians Junior A team.

I heared that Nepean wonts to affiliate with the Akwesasne Indians Junior A team.

Sounds like a marriage made in heaven. Nepean playing second fiddle to the Indians.

And the next part of the master plan will be for Gloucester to fold, and merge with Nepean.

May very well happen.

Just a few ramblings.

Not being for the east, I don't have insight on the nuances of ownership, territory rights etc. But, there needs to be something done for the game to grow in the east.

Some main themes seem to be cost, too much travel, getting screwed by Stan.

There has a been some conjecture about adding play with US based teams. While this maybe accomplished via the ILA, primarly due to insurance reasons OLA teams cannot cross the border.

Due to cost does JR lacrosse die in the east? (Hope not)

Does starting an Eastern Ontario B or C league/divisions make sense?

What ever the ultimate out come, in order for the game to grow and thrive in the east, there needs to some sort of resolution quickly.

All this moving from this league to that league, bickering about how crappy this centre is vs that centre, how the cla/ola is out to screw everybody and squable about owners, does nothing to resolve the issues and promote and grow our great game.

Its time for eastern stake holders to pow wow/conference what ever you want to call it and come up with long-term plans to insurance the viability of lacrosse in the region.

Thanks