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Generator
by Lenny
The used generator i bought was full of oil i cleaned it
with brake cleaner,now most of the 40plus year covering
on the field coils came off.I amsume it has to be insulated
what can i use to cover it up&that will take any heat build up
its a Delco generator.
Posted on Nov 11, 2009, 9:20 PM from IP address 98.251.21.224
Ross TA12 gearbox-Just replaced seal on the shaft that turns pitman arm(steering column is out of truck), put new gasket on cover then was ready to fill gearbox with new 140W oil when I noticed the threaded holes for bolts (to frame) go clear into box. Is this normal?
During disassembly, cleaning and inspection had not noticed this but wasn't looking much at that side.
The bolts would be above normal full oil level. My plan unless advised different is to clean holes and bolts real good then use #2 Permatex on bolt threads. OK?
Got both seal (no identity on it) and cover plate gasket from STude International, old seal was GK124N060W. Can anyone cross that to a modern number for future reference?
One of you folks had given me an SKF #, but my local parts guys couldn't cross it. Of course they were willing to measure my old one, but I knew SI had some so went that way expecting to see a number on the new one.
And I sure enjoy reading all the different posts, keep them coming.
Posted on Nov 11, 2009, 7:57 PM from IP address 24.113.107.176
Nice work Matthew! I mostly just read the posts but I knew you were collecting stainless, just wasn't sure what you were doing with it. I think it really looks good!
Posted on Nov 10, 2009, 7:56 PM from IP address 75.142.155.225
What a nice job! Would you be willing to do more? I need someone to repair the strip that goes on top of the hood. My truck has the hood ornament. I also have another one of those peices for the grille if you're interested. Maybe we could do a trade.
Posted on Nov 10, 2009, 10:15 PM from IP address 208.72.120.53
Matthew, You haven't been doing this that long, correct? Nice work. This looks like a great Stude money making enterprise for you. What do you use for a buffing system? Good luck. Bish
Posted on Nov 11, 2009, 7:43 AM from IP address 71.254.13.136
Howdy Matthew, very nice work! Years ago... I too, was fortunate enough to have my friend Ed, teach me stainless restoration. In the age of plastic trim and fake brightwork, it is quickly becoming a lost art. It is great to see your keeping this tradition alive and well. It looks like you have a set of wood forming bucks for an M series in the background of your picture. Did someone pass these, or the pattern on to you, or did you pattern these yourself? I have been looking for a good contour pattern for an M series for a while now. Would you be willing to share a paper pattern of the contours of the forming bucks? Thanks, Tim
Posted on Nov 11, 2009, 10:50 AM from IP address 216.228.41.98
Ted, on a thread over on the SDC Forum there was a discussion involving some 8E truck specifications - as a result Charlie Veit said that you might have a 3E/4E Truck Specifications book on CD.
If this is so, would you be willing to make/sell me a copy?
Mark
Posted on Nov 10, 2009, 12:26 PM from IP address 70.67.194.165
I can now make these at home, I have them in word which gives continous paging or just scanned so you look in the index then go to the page file. Because I now make them there is no middle man.Actually I have found that most of the specs work for all C cab trucks. $10 Ted
Posted on Nov 10, 2009, 9:11 PM from IP address 24.44.164.58
He suggested I go to Palo Dueo Canyon before I go any further, he said to just got to Washington which was just over a cple of blocks and to drive down and watch for the signs. I did exactly what he said but the last sign I saw said 16 miles to the canyon and I never saw another sign except for Tulia which is where Washington ran out of road and I had to get onto the highway. So I just kept going and if you guys think ROsweel is bad better think again about this area of Texas it is real tough and dirty. The towns are only there because there are cotton gins operating in them or Peanut factorys but the Peanut towns are actully clean. I got as far as Seminole which is not to bad and Hobbs NM is even better and man does that town cover a lot of area for a small place. Hobbs must run 5 miles out all around and the towns south are okay including Eunice, but Jal is in tough shape. I asked the GPS to take me to Kermit and the first time he took me to a new well drilling rig in the middle of nowhere in the sand dunes. When I got back on 18S a saw a real sign that said Kermit 4 miles and that is where I gassed up, full serve. i stopped next in Barstow and that is one sorry back up town, not a thing happening there but in Pecos it is a whole different story, seems to be a lot better there. Judge Roy Bean hels court there and hug em high. I finally came across some mountains and fell in love with the country in this area of Texas and that is from Pecos to El Paso. Man this is real pretty country and I have only made it to Van Horne. I would say come and visit this area as it is real pretty.
I'm glad to finally get some wifi so I can talk and look up what is going on.
I have ot seen to many studes since I left Bill in Briscoe and Steve Blakes in Amarillo.
Peter
Posted on Nov 9, 2009, 8:06 PM from IP address 75.88.239.57
As promised here are some pictures of the just finished 49 2R. A couple of optional interior options to do like fabricate a rear view mirror bracket.Thanks to Jared Kissell for sending me pictures to give me the idea for customizing the front bumper and to Sid Saint for the idea of gluing in the windshield. [IMG][/IMG]
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Regards Val&Mark Carson
Posted on Nov 9, 2009, 2:59 PM from IP address 174.1.57.95
AN he told me it was going to be all green and now I see he changed his mind again and it is two tone??????? Mark you have to put down all the things you did to this truck that are not studebaker oriented. Like how many man hors put in to the adapter for the tranny. the gluing of the window. you know what I mean. Every thing Mark did to this truck had to be done twice Eh!
Looks nich Mark, I hope you enjoy your new T-Shirt but I'm not finished with you yet. That is a ranger 60/40 seat in case you want to know but Mark will have to tell you what the steering wheel is as he ad to do it that way so his big framed and boned slightly rolloy polly body could fit in there.
The onlyother way you will see this truck is if you go to the Glendale Meet in AZ May andJune next year as he says he id going to drive er down there.
Peter
Posted on Nov 9, 2009, 8:32 PM from IP address 75.88.239.57
I have asked him to put a list together of what he did to that truck to make it look so good and not just a few items but all of it including the loosing of his hair.
Peter
Posted on Nov 10, 2009, 11:14 AM from IP address 75.88.239.57
Thanks folks for the compliments. It might be a long time before I can post a 3/4 shot as Coquitlam, BC and the surrounding area are now in our rainy season. The colours are Pimento green(Toyota) on the top and Emerald Green(Chrysler) with a vibrant green stripe for pinstripe.
After I posted this message yesterday Peter Sauer called me from Texas to tell everyone what I had done and to explain the hair loss. I think the hair loss was from my previous relationship but I was no easy guy to live with either. Okay so back to the truck. I am posting a picture of the way I bought the truck as well. It has a 28" Flaming River tilt column with an early Monte Carlo steering wheel and the truck horn button attached in the centre. Replacement floor pans were from Classic and my body man fabricated door bottoms, outer lower skins and a new inner fenders for th drivers side. The bumper was made from two original front bumpers cut apart then widened and welded smooth. The fibreglass tonneau cover is from Studebaker Rods & Customs Fort Wayne Indiana 260-482-1118. Tony has a mould for the 2R trucks at least the short box. I have kept the solid axle in the front and am using Nitrogen shocks and Delrin bushings from Chuck Collins athttp://www.studebakerparts.com/ I find the ride acceptable after removing some of the leaf springs. I think there was about 13 leafs per side when I started.
I have used Turner Disc Brakes on the front and my rear axle is from an Astro van with shortened housing and axles. The pumpkin is a 8.5". I know that most use a 9" Ford however this was a cheaper way for me to go and I wanted to retain the five inch on five stud wheel pattern.
There are other things that I have done like install a 60/40 bench seat(hi-seat backs) from a Ford Ranger but full size seats will fit too. I made my own seat mounts using the stock Studebaker sliders that were in some trucks.
The vents in the hood are from a 1979 Buick LeSabre and are functional. A lot of engine heat escapes out through these. I wish that I had researched the vent thing better as I am still looking for a better vent for the passenger side. I have Peter Sauer on his travels looking for at least one more but most cars of this vintage have been crushed. Might I suggest you use a Buick Allure(2009) that is if you wanted a vent that is.
Brian Curtis who writes for Turning Wheels will be doing a feature on this truck so I will elaborate more about the a/c(Old Air Products), the flip open rear window, power steering, hydro boost brakes with a combination valve and residual valves from www.mpbrakes.com/ and the machined plate adapting the Chevy 700R onto the back of my OHV six.
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Posted on Nov 10, 2009, 2:41 PM from IP address 174.1.57.95
On the Speed Channel this weekend Dick Steinkamp's ute was on the Hot Rod TV show. It was about the 60th anniversary of the car show that had Dick's Ute in it. They did a nice feature, I am sure glad I taped it.
Dick, did you sell it?
Rob Lund
Posted on Nov 9, 2009, 8:30 AM from IP address 75.54.69.132
Great car and a great blog on it, too. Seeing the great rods and customs surrounding the Ute brought back memories of all the car mags (big ones and small ones) that I wore out just turning pages as a teenager and young man in the fifties
Dick, I am pleased to have met you in person, and to know you share the love I have for '53 studes. I know the collector that bought the Ute loves them too.
Too bad we can't just keep all the cars we have come it close contact with over the years, but passing them on to those that will appreciate them is satifying, too.
Regards,
Bob Feaganes (aka stude53)
Posted on Nov 10, 2009, 8:26 AM from IP address 71.52.131.61
My partner in the Salt2Salt racing effort (and T-Cabber) Greg Meyers went in for hip replacement surgery Saturday morning. He's resting somewhat uncomfortably but they have the pain managed and he's alert (between bouts of woozyness). He'll find out tomorrow or Tuesday about rehab -- whether they will send him home or to a rehab place for a week or so. He's got a few hot rod magazines and a car book or two to keep him occupied between trips to the torture center, er, I mean Physical Therapy.
I'm not sure when he'll be back on-line but it shouldn't be more than another week or so.
Bob
Posted on Nov 8, 2009, 11:22 PM from IP address 75.72.146.216
Larry, the fellow I bought my M5 from, is finishing up his. I went up to his place yesterday and shot these pictures of the truck. We took it for a spin and it sure drives nice!
Expanding foam has turned the lower part of the inside of the drivers side door (not the removeable panel) into Swiss cheese. You can see the pic in the parts book page 512. If you have an old junk door and are willing to cut the lower part of the inside out of it I'd love to hear from you.
Andrew
Posted on Nov 8, 2009, 9:58 PM from IP address 142.177.11.92
I'm in Nova Scotia where C cabs and their doors are very scarce. Shipping a whole door would be awkward and costly; I anticipated if some one has a scrap door it would be possible to just cut out the lower panel and putting it in the mail.
Andrew
Posted on Nov 9, 2009, 7:17 PM from IP address 142.177.113.118
I'm heading into NM today unless I go up into the moutains to see somethng or look for that rich yellow stuff. I like all the others found a Map.
Having a great time.
Did that fellow contact you about the light house, he seemed real interested in it.
Peter
Posted on Nov 10, 2009, 11:11 AM from IP address 75.88.239.57
The last Studebaker outing for our Chapter was in early October this year and my vehicle licence expired at the end of October (storage insurance only for the winter). That along with the fact I am currently unemployed means it is a perfect time to carry out some of the more major maintenance items on my Transtar.
Earlier, I had removed and serviced the carburetor, intake manifold and valley cover. As you can see the water pump manifold, generator, battery tray, radiator and shroud have been taken out for clean-up, maintenance and paint.
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This summer I picked up a NOS Climatizer Unit which has now received a fresh coat of paint. This will be replacing the current climatizer which is awaiting removal.
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The battery tray is halfway through a repaint.
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The water pump manifold assembly is removed and will get a thorough cleaning, repaint and new water pump before it returns to the truck.
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I'm debating taking the radiator into a rad shop for a thorough cleaning and pressure testing.
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A new instrument panel (completed earlier this year) and a freshly repainted air cleaner await installation.
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The valve covers and oil caps will also get a good cleaning and new paint along with the generator. There is a set of new plug wires and spark plugs to install as well. There is also a glove box light to install, a new door latch, a new driveshaft centre support bearing... etc. etc.
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Posted on Nov 8, 2009, 9:31 PM from IP address 70.67.194.165
Mark, steve wants old blue back and is willing to make
by Peter
a deal with you on the red on that you originally wanted. By the way your wife Marla and Steve's wife Marla must have had a good time as they both have the same personalities such as Happy all the time.
Those Hudson hornet and Teraplanes he has a real purty to you will onyly pry them from Steve when he is not of this panet any longer then you will have to deal with the famil to get those 4 beauts. that is including the two nice champs.
Peter
Posted on Nov 9, 2009, 8:24 PM from IP address 75.88.239.57
Thanks for the note. I have been trying to communicate with Steve but he has not been answering e-mails. If you are still at his house, ask him to drop me a line. Thanks
Mark Hayden
Posted on Nov 9, 2009, 8:53 PM from IP address 70.67.194.165
Steve said to me it is to bad I did not let him know I was coming but I did on several occasions and I even tried to phone him but he has a different phone now. So we only got to visit for a few hours and his lovely wife made us a real nice BLT to hit the road with. Steve also says he has to down sizze but never goes on line anymore so how can he down size and no one can even reach him??? Does anyone have his cel number as that is the one he is using now. It would take me two days to get back there now.
Peter
Posted on Nov 9, 2009, 11:24 PM from IP address 75.88.239.57
I thought he fell off the face of the earth? I bought one of his Champs 3 years ago"this is the automatic" and just wanted to give him an update about the engine swap,and to see how he's been.hope his health is good and all.
Posted on Nov 11, 2009, 5:54 PM from IP address 72.200.168.217
Allen, I have a spare hood ('49-'53) and I have it in McKinney, TX. If you'd like to check it out, I'll be available today (Nov,9th) late morning and afternoon. Otherwise we can arrange another time next week-end. I can be reached at (903)243-7803.
Posted on Nov 9, 2009, 1:15 AM from IP address 68.116.254.251
Had a wonderful visit with Peter after his arrival here in the Texas Panhandle, attended at 6 Man Football game here in Briscoe and then we toured Mobeetie and Canadian Texas, figured any self-respecting Canadian should visit Canadian Texas! He left here headed South and West, we should all go on an adventure such as Peters'.
Posted on Nov 8, 2009, 11:01 AM from IP address 69.62.40.94
does anyone know how to install a vent seal on a '48.the outside below the windshield one. does it need to be glued down? is the wide part facing up or down? when I put the wide part up it rubs on the vent, maybe it needs to be tucked in or something. thanks
Posted on Nov 8, 2009, 8:05 AM from IP address 71.173.180.176
not kicking!! Returned home on Friday about noon. It was great to see my dog after 18 days. I am really doing well and can walk without assistance in the house. I will have to use a cane for awhile for outside excursions. The surgery went well and my rehab progressed rapidly. The PT'ists said I made great progress for a fat, old man.
I will begin out-patient therapy on Monday which will probably take another couple weeks. At least I will be able to be out and about and not confined to the Health Center. Primarily I'll be working on gaining more flexiblilty in the knee. My next challenge is to master the 13 steps to the basement (I'm using my wife's 'puter to get this message out). I may try it tomorrow. The biggest challenge will be waiting until December 2 before I can drive again. That will be the toughest thing, having to depend on others to drive for me.
Yes, there is pain involved, but the doctors do a great job in controlling that aspect of the whole process. I stood up beside my bed eight (8) hours after the surgery and walked, with assistance of a walker and a physical therapist, approximately twenty yards the next morning. Haven't stopped since.
Thank you all so much for your cards, messages, prayers and good wishes. You guys are the greatest!!! Best wishes, Frank
Posted on Nov 7, 2009, 10:23 PM from IP address 71.240.232.113
Great News! Hope you have budgeted for new clothes. Everyone I know that has had knee replacement dropped a couple of inches off their waist with all the walking they can now do!
Posted on Nov 8, 2009, 9:43 AM from IP address 75.72.146.216
Frank, I've found out that a cane has many uses ...
by Bob Feaganes
I really don't use mine all the time now, but keep it handy for "feelin' weak" days when I need some extra balance help, and for all sorts of other uses.
For example, it increases your reach by about three feet, and lets you pick up both necessary (like shoes and socks)and unnecessary things (like newspapers), move things closer (like footstools and remote controls)and some farther away (like pets underfoot). It's also helpful for sweeping dog toys and balls out from under the couch or chair, and reaching cereal boxes on top shelves.
If you are like me, you lost some weight in the hospital and that helps, too. I've been able to keep it off so far (my STF overalls fit better) and am able to use less insulin and fewer blood pressure pills to keep things on an even keel.
When you are ready to tackle those stairs, we'll look for more frequent posts. We've all missed you.
Regards,
Bob
Posted on Nov 8, 2009, 11:13 AM from IP address 71.52.131.61
Glad to hear all went well Frank. I'm sure that those stairs won't pose a problem when the time comes. I think the hardest thing for me would be not being able to drive too. Just think of all the fun you'll have in the future wading through Stude parts at meets! Bish
Posted on Nov 8, 2009, 4:51 PM from IP address 71.254.13.136
He had a buddy who had a knee done a while back. He just had to go back in for aouther operation. He did not have a proper range of motion and it was getting worse.
Apparently the Physival therapist took it easy on him, not working it hard enough. he didn't do him any favors, as the soft approach allowed scar tissue to build and that is what limited the motioin. The doctor had to go back in and remove the stuff and he had to go in for more PT.
So you gotta work it. Hope your therapist is giving you a hard way to go.
Posted on Nov 9, 2009, 12:31 AM from IP address 67.249.225.177
I agree. I know of someone that just decided that it was too hard to do. She now can barely get out of her wheelchair to walk with one of those 4 wheel walkers. No pain, no gain as they say and it made her so she can not do even the easiest of walks to the bath room. Keep your chin up, you want to be as good as you can be and the more rehab the better you will be. Got to be able to double clutch, you know.
Rob
Posted on Nov 9, 2009, 5:23 PM from IP address 75.54.69.132
all were sold to me as a correct C-Cab mirror. One of them looks just like that. All three were bought at SDC meets, who knows. Are there different ones over the years or, do the dealers just see a one born every day.
Don't care anymore, i'm mounting the one like that cause i can see out of it. The other two lesson learned.
Posted on Nov 7, 2009, 2:38 AM from IP address 202.123.128.137
I'm almost at your house I will be in El Paso or thereabouts on Tuesday then head across the rest of NM and into Arizona to Tombstone where I met I get shot? and put in Boot hill.
Peter
Posted on Nov 9, 2009, 8:15 PM from IP address 75.88.239.57
Mike: If you could provide the model code and serial number for this truck, I could decypher both and also give you some specific info on this particular truck. Without the model code and serial number, it will be difficult to answer some of your questions you posted some days ago.
Chester Bradfield of Bridgewater, VA, who is a member of our SDC Chapter, owns a 1935 ACE wrecker that is is show condition. I could send you a photo or two of the vehicle if you wish. I won't be able to do this until I can get down to my computer in the basement.
Your truck certainly has a lot of potential for a restoration. These are rather scarce vehicles. Good luck, Frank
Posted on Nov 8, 2009, 5:12 PM from IP address 71.240.232.113
The Ace came from the auction at Ken Voight's place in Armour, SD several years ago. While I did not go, I heard the temperatures were in the triple digits and the auctioneer is not known for moving quickly.
Though I can't find my pictures, I think Chester had this truck at the railroad museum in Lancaster.
Posted on Nov 10, 2009, 9:26 AM from IP address 141.152.24.254
I REALLY like the looks of your truck. Would love to have one. I would do all the mechanical repairs to make it drivable and safe, and enjoy it like it is.
Posted on Nov 10, 2009, 6:55 PM from IP address 67.142.162.22
Need a few days to get back on my truck, the night shift was a little harder this week.
I've conectected the vacuum wiper to the manifold, it is a little better but have some backfiring again.
I will try it again next week with a friend to try the trick with the torch.
I'm not fast enough to run around the truck before it stops running.
Thanks again.
Frank from Germany
Posted on Nov 6, 2009, 2:08 PM from IP address 88.76.189.55
Story about the Packard bldg in Wall Street Journal
by george o
The Packard building made the front page of the Wall Street Journal today. Seems someone found an old dump truck on the forth floor(no one knows how it got there). It is a tale of them knocking out a wall and pushing it out. It landed on all four
Take Care
george o
Posted on Nov 6, 2009, 12:51 PM from IP address 209.163.127.219
i found the video, and it makes me wonder, what is wrong with people today, i'm 21 and would never do this to someone else's stuff, even if it is in an abandoned building. and what is wrong with them thinking this is news worthy.
the web address to the video and story is:
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB125745924791631907.html
Posted on Nov 6, 2009, 5:13 PM from IP address 69.171.162.54
Lets face fact these buildings are gone to far and are to costly to repair. As much as I didn't care to see some of the Studebaker Buildings in South Bend get torn down some are just to dangerous and run down to save something should of been done 20 or 30+ more years ago now it's to late.
The dirt they sit on is far more valueable then the structors the only reason the property hasn't been taken for tax's is they city doesn't want to be responseable.
Some understand the value of history, others just don't care. But mostly this piece of history is just to costly to be able to save it all. As you can see in the photos of this building it's in bad shape and the only fate for it is being torn down.
I can just imagine what it must be like to live in a city like this and looking at all the vast hugh empty run down structors like this one and not seeing anything done about it.
I remember Tacoma years ago they've made a come back in old town but its nothing like it once was .
Posted on Nov 8, 2009, 11:36 PM from IP address 67.142.161.33
I have a 1950 2r5 that I am redoing ,After building a new bed for the truck I am wondering if rather than bolting the rear fenders to the bed if i tack welded the fenders in place and then covered the seams with bondo to make a smooth transition?. other than having to replace the fenders in the future if they are damaged any reason not to attach and make the fender as one with the bed? Comments? thank you Dan Holleran
Posted on Nov 6, 2009, 12:34 AM from IP address 98.248.141.172
Remember, these were designed to be assembled at the factory easily and repaired or replaced in the field easily.
Welding them on is labor intensive and negates easy repair.
Also.
Trucks flex under load.
Even if you welded them 100& of the way around...
The seam will flex and your paint will crack.
But...
If it is a custom look you are going for... Have at it!
Sounds like fun...
Jeff
Posted on Nov 6, 2009, 10:29 AM from IP address 72.10.94.141
Unless its a full custom, I would avoid welding and filling the seam. It will crack. If you must, you can try a flexible seam sealer available at Napa, etc. It is paintable. Greg
Posted on Nov 6, 2009, 5:48 PM from IP address 208.111.238.243
cracking will be reduced to a minimum if brazed after spot welding fender to bed (every 4-6" along inner fender lip) not 100% effective in all cases, though. I'm not a bondo fan, but have used it-- prefer bondo hair for more than a 1/32" thickness, then just a skim coat of glazing putty. SLIGHTLY less chance of cracks later. I leaded the seam on the cab of my 49, and dang it, 6 months later, the paint has micro cracks-- can't win them all.
Posted on Nov 6, 2009, 7:21 PM from IP address 71.223.228.199
If you're set on not bolting them on,check into bonding material.bodyshops have been useing this for years now.though as others said if not for a custom,just bolt on like factory.
Posted on Nov 6, 2009, 8:57 PM from IP address 72.200.168.217
Dan, I have chased cracks from welding 3" extensions into my fenders for twenty years. So my recommendation is to bolt them on. with the fender welting.
Posted on Nov 6, 2009, 10:27 PM from IP address 12.189.126.91
I too want to fill the seam in my cab that runs along the back between the top and the back. Presently there is some sort of sealer that will need to come out when I get ready to paint it. I thought leading that seam as cars were done would work. I recall touring the BOP plant in KC Kansas when I was a kid and they were leading that area on all the cars. Will welding work then lead?
Also, what about the seam along the side of the bed about 6" down from the top of the bed on the outside. I thought Tig Welding it would work and then filling with lead. Probably some major reinforcement between the lower fender and the bed to keep it from flexing would help there too.
I understand the fender connection not being welded. There is just to much flex going on there. I think the only way to make that work would be a lot of reinforcement on the back side of that area and stiffening along the open area too as well as bracing the fender to the bed. That would add a lot of weight and structure.
Anyone who has done any of the above, I would appreciate hearing from you.
Thanks
Rob
Posted on Nov 9, 2009, 11:20 AM from IP address 75.54.69.132
I have two NOS oil pans that I believe to be for V8's. One has a part number 527145, the other has no part number. The pan marked 527145 has a 1-inch drain plug in the center of the bottom. The unmaked pan has a 9/16th drain plug at 45 degrees on the end of the pan. Both line up on all the holes of a 259 block I have. Does anyone know what P/N 527145 goes to? And any ideas about how to ID the other pan?
Thx,
Bob
Posted on Nov 5, 2009, 10:43 PM from IP address 75.72.146.216
Bob I am not home right now But if your oil pan doesent look like the one you have for your 259. It may be for late 289. or early 224 v8 that cam out in the 1955 model year.
Posted on Nov 5, 2009, 11:45 PM from IP address 207.40.198.62
Is there any difference in the various V8 oil pans that would make me want to choose one over the other? If so, how do I identify the desirable oil pan?
Secondly, I am assuming these are both V8 oil pans because the bolt holes line up on the 259 block I have. Is there any chance that they aren't? Are the Champion and Commander 6 oilpans different enough that I am not making a mistake?
Posted on Nov 6, 2009, 5:20 PM from IP address 67.154.7.114
I tried to use an earlier oil pan on my truck but found out that they are shallower than the later and unless you have the right oil pump pick up tube it will not fit. I was trying to get one of the 6 qt. pans on for extra capacity. The cut out is further forward on the earlier pans. I dont have part numbers for either of them though.
Posted on Nov 6, 2009, 11:09 PM from IP address 24.20.56.125
I loaded these pictures up on my Flickr account. The pictures show both oil pans and the details of the unknown one. The descriptions on the pictures tell you which is which.
Page 0115 of the Studebaker Chassis Parts Catalog 1951-54 lists the first oil pan as the pan for 51-54 Commander motors. I don't know if it would list it for the 55 224/259 because the catalog doesn't go that far.
The capacity of the two pans seems the same. I wonder if the other pan is for a different model like a C-cab, T-cab, or Lark due to the mild indent on one side...
Posted on Nov 7, 2009, 8:37 PM from IP address 75.72.146.216
If the drain plug on the unknown pan measures 3/8" at the threads, I think it would be a 1959-64 oil pan #1547193. However it should be a little less deep than the other one.
Posted on Nov 7, 2009, 11:24 PM from IP address 76.121.70.236
Ok. My dad has done it again. He has drug home another stray. I don't know why only the worst follow him home! This one has had a tree that fell across the hood. The front diff has suffered some damage. It shows signs of being bent, but I think it can be saved. This one is already on the registry, but I do not believe it has been seen by the masses yet. The running boards are dealer added, as they still have a tag on them saying they were shipped to the Studebaker warehouse on Quimby Street in Portland, Oregon. This is 7E13D-4201.
Posted on Nov 5, 2009, 10:12 PM from IP address 24.20.56.125
his back yard scouting all his goodies. Yep I'm only a ways from there now but I'm going to Briscoe first then down to Goodnight then up to his place if the address in the SDC is the same then I will find him on Saturday or SUnday.
Peter.
By the way Mark where do you and Marcia hang your shingle now?
Peter
Posted on Nov 6, 2009, 2:20 AM from IP address 12.175.230.54
that he can't find his way out of Texas. I'll bet he thinks you and Marcia drive a big rig and used to live in North Carolina. The other Mark lives with Marcia in Wisconsin.
Posted on Nov 6, 2009, 3:57 PM from IP address 71.52.131.61
Yes I saw Steve and he got me side tracked so I never got to Sante Fe but I will be going through El Paso and then more of NM and into Tombstone as my wife wants me to bring back the Earps for here to plaw with. She says I have to go there! I was only at Steve Blakes for a few hours as his phone is no good so I could not reach him and he does not seem to go on line anymore.
Peter
Posted on Nov 9, 2009, 8:11 PM from IP address 75.88.239.57
Well guys I'm so far behind in my journal and only
by Peter
because I have been having a ball in TEXAS! Oh yes I had a good time in Savanah Georgia to. Florida was alos good but since I got to San Antonio it has been uphill ever since. I'm now staying or hiding out in Quanah Parker's neck of the woods and I should be at Elbert's in Briscoe by Friday as I did not get away on Wednesday as I thought I would. Al and I decided to take another stab at locating J.W. Davis and we found his place and he found us, and then the fun began. We must of spent 3 hours Bull ****ting with hime and let me tell you this guy is really on top of what he is doing. I know I could never do what he is doing with the two cars he has there and one is a 1929 Essex and the other a 1947 Studebaker Commander which is also part Dodge truck and C-Cab PU box including Mustang fromt and rear drive system and even more than that as it goes on forever. the only thing holding him back from finishing is he has Gout and the VA cannot find a cure for it and they have told him they have tried everything they know of and it is not helping him so I'm going to give you his address in Denton, TX and his name and phone number, by the way he does live in the little house beside his shop and he could use some help fixing the roof as he has some new metal to install and cannot do it because of his foot problems.
J.W. Davis, 2019 Ft. Worth Drive, Denton Texas, Phone Number:940-735-2175
He goes by the name of JW and he has a whole lot of truck parts there for sale and a 185 flat 6 for sale T Cab parts for sale, C-Cab fenders front, rear, doors, etc. so go and see him as I'm sure they will be reasonable.
next it is John Brooks, 254-386-4816, who has the property at CO 506 and route 281 where he lives in the area or at this location??? He also has a place in Weatherford on route 180 aroun the 1800 block, it is right across the street from a Pipe place that has the address 1801 - 180. He has a Studebaker Dealership sign in front of the location and it is like a lolly pop as it really stands out but too bad the neon is long gone. He has a 1962 Transtar V8 with new process 5 spd I think the dump is also a V8 with 5 spd but I do not know enough about these things to say for sure. There are two other Stude trucks there and a ton more in the back of the place from the looks of things. Though I cannot say for sure as there are no trespassing signs all around. Elbert in Birscoe says he knows of Mr. Brooks but one has to make an appt. to meet with hime at either place.
We also went to the CTC Auto Ranch on I-35 and there was a few studes in there and one Champ PU but that is all. There is one hell of a lot of parts cars in this place and we spent at least 4 hours in there and we were worn out when we left and happy to leave as that is a lot of walking.
Peter
Posted on Nov 5, 2009, 8:37 PM from IP address 99.197.0.56
WA area such as the Whatcom County group, Brian Curtis is one contact, sorry I do not have his number and anotehr club is the Tacoma Chapter and I'm sure they are online somewhere if you just look or someone can direct you to their sites.
Posted on Nov 5, 2009, 8:09 PM from IP address 70.41.64.58
The only 48 I've seen lately is on Craigs list and I believe its in Idaho and it's looks sad. Theres a fairly good looking 50 champion in Tacoma listed make offer.
I take it you want one without a motor ?
The body I can't help you with, except for Craigs list. But if you do decide to want an original motor complete that I have .
Posted on Nov 9, 2009, 9:53 PM from IP address 67.142.161.31
Jimmy, I have just (over the past 3 months)replaced my front and rear leaf springs on my 1948 M16. Eaton Detroit Spring is the place to go. Mike Eaton is a great guy, the springs are made to the factory specs, the workmanship is great, and the price, as far as I am concerned, is very reasonable. The most important thing is that they fit right. Go to their web sight, email them, then the final order is made over the phone.
Good Luck!
Mike Celona
Posted on Nov 8, 2009, 7:39 PM from IP address 76.19.8.165
FWIW, if I were having springs made, I'd ask for a modern larger diameter bushing with a steel sleeve. The puny rubber bushings Stude use get pounded out in no time. A larger bushing will also ride better and transmit less impact noise.
thnx, jack vines
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