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email meby (no login)Could any POSITIVE practicing podiatrists email me please? I have questions galore. from IP address 67.8.20.188 |
positive podsby footdoc (no login)Nick, I sincerely wish I could help you. The average " Pod in the street" is not going to be positive. S/he has had YEARS and YEARS of declining 3rd party payments, increasing documentation burdens and the now traditional interprofessional squabbles about what services we should provide to our patients to beat them down. If you're a masochist, welcome aboard. If not, good luck in whatever field you choose. from IP address 69.218.44.145 |
Podiatrist in CALIFORNIA SALARYby Mike (no login)I am trying to get into Podiatry school, but I've heard some really harsh things about the post-graduate/residency situation salary-wise. It seems the programs have implemented a 3 years mandatory residency, which brings the total number of years of hardcore work to 7! There aren't many podiatrists in the country, let alone California. (Only 1 school in ALL the westcoast) Then why am I hearing so many negative rumors about $60 and $70000 starting salaries? After 7 YEARS OF WORK? And learning? And 100 hour weeks? You'd expect AT LEAST $100K easy. I only see about 10 pods in ALL THE EAST BAY area listed. What's the deal, then? All these other jam-packed specialties from Dentistry to Urology to even RN's are making bank but Pods are starving? Any explanations out there? from IP address 67.150.49.43 |
Supply & Demandby Podiatrist (no login)Supply & Demand is the answer An established podiatrist creates his own demand Employed podiatrists are depending off of someone else’s demand, and you are replaceable, and can be replaced fairly easily and inexpensively. If you are buying into a practice or becoming a partner than make sure it is in a contract and you had your lawyer look at the deal to protect your interests. The hiring doctors are not always the bad the guy, there are at least two sides to every story. They do know what the market will bear and from their prospective why should they pay more until the young doctor has proven themselves. It is not easy to support a new doctor when most podiatrists are solo practitioners. It is much easier for a group to absorb the cost of a new associate. While there are some major institutions that feel the need to have a well trained podiatrist employed and offer a nice salary and benefit package, the majority of the market for podiatry is in private practice. In most parts of the country we do not take ER call. Some doctors are podiatrist friendly for inn patient diabetic foot infections and ulcer referrals and in other communities the referrals go to other specialties. In some parts of the country there are nursing homes if you want to make some extra money and in other parts of there country they already have podiatrists. Other doctors can do most of what we do. They usually do not do it as well, but that is not my point. You will have to try to find what your niche is in your community, and “run” with it. Some podiatrists develop thriving practices that are 99% physician referral, some use marketing effectively, which can be expensive and may not be profitable unless you attract a high percentage of private insurance and convert a high percentage of those new patients to surgeries. Most podiatrists get a few calls from the yellow pages and a few physician referrals, but depend largely on word of mouth and that takes time. To do very well one must target the patient with private insurance, and have investments. You may not make it with Medi/Medi and routine care. You should try to have an office as nice as the doctors in your area, maybe even nicer. Do not sell surgery, but use it after conservative care has failed. It takes time, and money to build a thriving practice. It is not impossible, and there are ways to start inexpensively. In some areas it is very hard to get on the insurance plans. If you have created your own thriving private practice (created your own demand) you will do very well, and in most cases have less call than other specialties. To do well in podiatry you must practice good medicine and it really helps to be a bit of an entrepreneur, and have a personality. If you think simply because of you degree and the aging baby boomers you will have multiple 100K opportunities waiting for you, than this is the wrong profession for you. It would be nice due to the cost and length of the education, but do not count on it. One can do quite well as an established podiatrist, but you will not by any means do quite well simply because you are a podiatrist. Many young dentists struggle. Things have gotten better recently with the whitening and increase in cosmetic procedures, but a few years back they had schools closing because of the oversupply. RNs are doing well right now, but if supply and demand changes do you think the hospitals will pay them more than they have to? Many physician offices are doing away with RNs due to budget issues. They have no direct access to patients so are out of luck when the tide turns. Urology, I think they do pretty well, if you have what it takes to be a Urologist then go for it. Sometimes the grass really is greener, but often it is about the same shade, and sometimes it is not greener at all. Make a very, very, educated decision what profession is right for you. Once you decide than do not look back, and make the best of it. There will always be hurdles in life and things that are out of your control. Those that see themselves as victims are usually equally to blame for their demise. It is still possible to have a nice lifestyle in podiatry. from IP address 65.1.94.98 |
Podiatry Politicsby Alumni (no login)One of the reasons we as podiatrists are slipping is that MDs rule the medical world. We are inferior. Our education is less accepted. We are held to smaller, less critical standards. Podiatry may be absorbed as a whole one day. With RNs and PTs doing our jobs there is no room for a surgical trained toe nail clipper. from IP address 152.163.100.130 |
Re: Podiatry Politicsby danny (no login)You spend too much time complaining. get a job from IP address 66.90.166.220 |
Truthful Answerby James (no login)Don't trust the opinions that are posted here. Go visit a real life podiatrist and ask them. See all the tasks that he or she does in a day and then stand back and wonder why you didn't consider it sooner. from IP address 68.188.222.220 |
Truthful?by Alumni (no login)Any person with a little bit of self esteem will not sit there and tell you how horrible their life as a foot doctor is. The reality is this, why is there so much negativity, why are schools accepting anyone, why are applications down 50%? Because the profession is way too risky for someone that has the ability to assess risks. from IP address 207.200.116.204 |
Podiatrist salaryby JazzyFeet (no login)That's the starting salary for SOME places, not all! And to be quite honest with you, that's just the first few years. After 3 years, depending on where you are, you should be making at least $150,000 and up. If you do surgery, then you're looking at $250,000+. from IP address 155.247.166.29 |
Salaries not accurateby Anonymous (no login)No pod makes 250K +. That is completely out of reach for 99% of DPMs. from IP address 207.200.116.204 |
Re: Salaries not accurateby kellie (no login)I worked for a podiatrist in Houston Texas who grossed production wise 850 K a year and brought home himself at least 20 k a month or more, I saw the money and we all kept stats ...........so don't give me the it can't be done deal, I also worked for another podiatrist before him in Houston, and he grossed about 600k a year..........besides is it all about money? Sure hope not from IP address 67.191.28.41 |
Re: Podiatrist in CALIFORNIA SALARYby (no login)I agree with you, I am in the same situation. I really do not understand how there is seven schools but yet the earnings are low. Some say because a physical Therepist can do some of the duties as a podiatrist. Then we have orthopedic doctors that can do the same surgury precedures as a podiatrist. So how does a podatrist compete? Many healthcare carriers do not support seeing a podiatrist either.... from IP address 155.247.166.29 |
Beans and Riceby XZ (no login)These are NOT rumors, b/w 45-70K are starting "salaries" (before taxes) for pods after residency. Good luck trying to live in Cally on that. Raman noodles, bean and rice anyone? from IP address 69.16.84.33 |
Re: Beans and Riceby Anonymous (no login)Easy enough to live here (I live in Orange County) on that much, without resorting to beans and rice. Only snobs who have to live above their means would have trouble doing so. from IP address 69.166.234.160 |
April Interviews, questions?by (no login)1.) Is anyone interviewing this month? I am in Oakland, Phila, New York, and Miami. 2.) Will anyone describe their interview experiences at for any of the schools? Thanks! itorice99@yahoo.com from IP address 69.146.26.4 |
Barry Universityby Jeremy (no login)I was wondering if anyone had any information on the school. I have been to the website and received their information packets. But every Podiatrist I have seen/talked to has graduated from Ohio or Temple and quite a few from Scholls. Is Barry up to par with them as far as resdencies and overall education? from IP address 68.101.15.253 |
Re: Barry Universityby Nick (no login)I've heard only good things about the school from pods that didn't even go there. They say it's a great school with great hospital affiliations. from IP address 67.8.20.188 |
Barry Uby Tracey (no login)Yes, Barry is definately "up to par" with the rest. I am a Barry graduate completing a 3yr primary care and surgery residency program in Georgia. Barry is not as "old" as some of the other schools which is why you don't run into many graduates out there, but they are there and doing quite well. Good luck!!! from IP address 205.188.116.134 |
Graduated from Barryby Larry (no login)I graduated from Barry about 5 years ago and I can tell you from my overall experience there that school is definitely not up to par with Temple and Scholl. If you are looking for the best overall podiatric education and the best chance of getting a good podiatric surgical residency then don't go to Barry. Good luck. from IP address 12.101.107.154 |
scholl or nycpmby ann (no login)Hi everyone, Just wondering if anyone knows or has experience with Scholl School of Podiatric Med... I'm trying to decide between scholl or nycpm.. thanks! from IP address 69.226.226.118 |
Schollby anne (no login)Hi everyone, does anyone have any input on Scholl School of Podiatric Medicine? I'm debating between Scholl or NYCPM... any thoughts? from IP address 69.226.226.118 |
Neither..by Alumni (no login)You should consider a MD/DO school. from IP address 70.0.176.216 |
multiple interviews?by (no login)I am currently applying to several of the podiatry schools, with preferring a few schools(Scholl's, DMU,OCPM) over others. I have a decent GPA near a 3.5 and a graduate degree. I am taking the MCATs in a few weeks, but I haven't studied a lot so far. I have been contacted by almost all the schools in the recent days for interviews. It sounds like in most of the threads posted that state that mostly all applicants get accepted. I don't know how much truth there is to that. I've heard 85% of all applicants get accepted somewhere. I do not have a lot of money to spend on travel to visit all the schools that I get invited for an interview. Do I try to travel to all that offer interviews or pick the 2-4 that interest me the most. I would appreciate anyone's input on my situation, who have applied to multiple schools. Thanks for any help u can lend me. from IP address 130.111.170.45 |
Re: multiple interviews?by Dan (no login)I would definately go to the DMU and Scholl interviews. You can't go wrong with either of these schools. from IP address 67.182.237.77 |
Interview processby Anonymous (no login)Your GPA should be fine but you should be worried about the MCAT if you haven't studied for it. It's a rough test. What's going to happen is that wherever you go will most likely accept you just based on your GPA. However, it is a partial acceptance based on the results of your MCAT. I am in the same situation as I am already accepted to Barry but have not taken the MCAT yet. I would only go to the two that interest you the most as you have a very good chance of getting accepted to both. from IP address 24.136.47.206 |
Re: multiple interviews?by (no login)I'd just go with a few you like or are more interested in, with your background I'm sure you'll do great. I took a leap of faith and interviewed only at scholl and got in. If you'd like to know more about the school feel free to email me ( i have pictures of the school as well) hope this helped! from IP address 69.226.226.118 |
Care Settingsby (no login)I know that most Podiatrists are in practice by themselves. How about if you just wanted to do trauma or foot surgery in a hospital? Is something like that possible, or must you go into a practice setting? from IP address 67.8.20.188 |
care settingsby anonymous (no login)Podiatrists just as DOs/ MDs rarely are employed by a hospital. Most are in private practice, in a group (either with other DPMs, orthopedists, or multispecialty), in the military, a VA, an academic institution,or in an HMO. They will all use hospitals where they hold staff privileges. If trained and credentialed this will include surgery and trauma. from IP address 64.12.116.130 |
Podiatric "Physicians"by Al Kline DPM (no login)Read this in Podiatry Today: http://www.podiatrytoday.com/podtd/displayArticleaa.cfm?articleID=article3811 from IP address 24.175.173.36 |
Re: Podiatric "Physicians"by Anonymous (no login)Thanks for the link, dr. kline. It's interesting that we're trying to have them define us as "physicians" because Medicaid could turn around and call us "physicians" but then replace everywhere they currently have "physician" to read "MD/DO" and exclude DPM's again. What's more interesting is that we're "Physicians" at the state level and as defined by Social Security but not Medicaid yet all these entities/programs are governmental. from IP address 67.10.181.219 |
Who Are You- By the Who Docsby J.D. Stellwagen (no login)Wow, all this talk still going about definitions and the like. Will this silly identity crisis ever be resolved. I hope all out there who are so concerned with how we are 'defined' are able one day to look at themselves in the miror and find a defintion that fits. Geez when will this silly stuff stop. Would someone please define physician for me, Im confused! from IP address 68.155.165.236 |
Gout Quizby Anonymous (no login)Here's a short quiz on gout for Family Practioner's. See how you do. http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/501542?src=mp If you don't already have a Medscape account I suggest you get one. Lots of interesting stuff - some not related to podiatry too much but it's medicine nonetheless. from IP address 67.10.181.219 |
Calling All Barry Studentsby (no login)Anyone who got admitted to Barry, AND is definitely attending, please e-mail me. I'd like to get everyone together so we know each other before school starts. Let me give you all some background on me: BA in philosophy from University of South Florida MS in Computer Science from Regis University While the above may LOOK impressive it really isn't. I'm a slooooow learner. So I could use all the help I can get. So folks, please e-mail me. I need a support network! from IP address 67.8.20.188 |
Interview questions.by (no login)Can you tell me about the interview there? My email is itorice99@yahoo.com. Thanks! from IP address 69.146.26.4 |
Dangerous Expansion to Podiatry?by Anonymous (no login)From: Pam Udall To: unlisted-recipients: ; no To-header on input Sent: Monday, March 28, 2005 12:05 PM Subject: TMA HOTLINE:Voice Your Opposition to the Expansion of Podiatry TMA Legislative News Hotline Monday, March 28, 2005 Busy Week Ahead for Medicine The House and Senate offices will be closed today in observance of Easter. However, once legislators get back in town tomorrow, medicine is slated for a busy week. We have a lot of controversial bills that will be heard this week, ranging from scope of practice to physician ownership. TMA will be calling on you to help head off dangerous legislation for medicine. Voice Your Opposition to the Expansion of Podiatry The physicians of Texas, including physicians of all specialties, stand united in opposition to Senate Bill 460 by Sen. Kenneth Armbrister (D-Victoria). SB 460 would allow podiatrists to perform surgery and other procedures on the ankle and related structures in the human body. Passing SB 460 into law would place the safety of patients into jeopardy. To protect the public, the scope of practice of allied health care professionals must be limited by their education, training, and skills. Podiatrists are foot doctors. They have only one year of training following attendance at a podiatric program. That year of training requires no instruction in surgery. By contrast, orthopedic surgeons are physicians who have more than five years of specialized surgical training beyond medical school. SB 460 will be heard Tuesday in the Senate Health and Human Services Committee. Physician Ownership Bill Being Heard Tuesday Tomorrow the Senate Health and Human Services Committee is hearing SB 872 sponsored by Sen. Jane Nelson (R-Flower Mound). SB 872 requires written disclosure and directs the state to perform a study on the impact of niche hospitals. TMA supports the legislation in its current form. However, the bill is in grave danger of being hijacked by the Texas Hospital Association (THA), which is recommending that provisions of SB 1622 by Sen. Jon Lindsay (R-Houston) be incorporated into Nelson’s bill. Provisions THA wants included in SB 872 include: · Implementation of a two-year moratorium on patient referrals by physicians to a health care facility in which they — or a family member/business partner — have an interest if the facility was not in operation as of Sept. 1, 2005; · Application of the legislation to ownership in ambulatory surgery centers and imaging centers; and · Mandatory reporting of physician ownership interests in health care facilities to the Texas State Board of Medical Examiners and the Texas Department of State Health Services. TMA strongly opposes efforts to limit investment opportunities for physicians such as ownership of facilities, equipment, and services to certain types of providers. TMA also agrees that physicians should disclose to patients any ownership interest in a facility or service and that physician-owned entities should adhere to all state and federal regulations, provide appropriate credentialing of physicians and clinical and support staff, monitor utilization and quality, and adhere to relevant TMA and American Medical Association ethical guidelines. TMA needs you to take action today. Please contact your representative. For talking points, go to TMA’s Grassroots Action Center. Workers’ Compensation Reform Rep. Burt Solomons’ (R-Carrollton) House Bill 7 that would reform the workers’ compensation program is up for a floor vote in the House of Representatives on Wednesday. TMA has been working closely with Representative Solomons and his staff and offered 11 amendments to ensure the bill provides access to quality care for injured workers. TMA is telling legislators that any workers’ compensation delivery system must include the same standards for patient protections, prompt payment, and adequacy of networks that state law requires of commercial insurance companies regulated by the Texas Department of Insurance. Physician Employment Discussed on Wednesday On Wednesday, HB 1456 by Rep. Tracy King (D-Batesville) will be heard in the House Committee on County Affairs. HB 1456 relates to the authority of the board of directors of the Maverick County Hospital district to employ health care providers. TMA is adamantly opposed to efforts by hospital to employ physicians. Hospitals already have numerous mechanisms in place to contract with physicians. Authorizing the employment of physicians could have a detrimental impact on patient care. What’s Going Down at the Capitol? — The End of Your Practice as You Know It Mark your calendar for April 5, when First Tuesdays at the Capitol ramps up again. This will be the third time this session that physicians and alliance members descend upon the Capitol to educate their representatives about the issues impacting medicine. Sign up today. It does make a difference when medicine shows up at the Capitol. Representatives and senators from both parties have pointed out that “those white coats” and alliance members in their offices and in the gallery helped pass our historic tort reform and tough prompt pay law in 2003. Contact your county medical society (CMS), or register online at www.texmed.org/ata/tae/first_tuesdays05.asp. Either way, check with your CMS for possible bus transportation. Even if you can’t get to Austin for First Tuesdays, schedule an appointment NOW with your legislators. Contact their local offices, especially if you’re not able to go to the Capitol. Physician of the Day Beverly Nuckols, MD, of New Braunfels is a 1990 graduate of The University of Texas Health Science Center at San Antonio. She is a member of the Comal County Medical Society, TMA, and AMA. All physicians of the day are members of the Texas Academy of Family Physicians. Your Subscription You are subscribed to the daily version of TMA Legislative News Hotline. To unsubscribe or change your settings, go to www.texmed.org/apn/listserv/legislativealert_submit.asp. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Texas Medical Association 401 W. 15th Street Austin, TX 78701 from IP address 63.25.151.186 |
funny...by Anonymous (no login)it's interesting that doing a search on podiatry at the texas medical association website would bring up this article that appears to indirectly advocate the DPM profession: http://texmed.org/ata/nrm/sta/lp03/rolf_keen.asp from IP address 66.6.80.49 |
This is why DPMs need to stick togetherby anonymous (no login)TX DPMs have historically performed surgery on the foot, ankle, and related structures for decades. There are several excellent residency programs within the state that graduate well trained full scope surgeons. They have been hired by large orthopedic and multispecialty goups to practice full scope. Over the last 5-10 years there has been an influx of orthopods and foot and ankle orthos. They began to question what is the foot and claimed that DPMs were trying to expand scope. Through lawsuits, attempted legislation last session, and now opposition to the bill mentioned they are attempting to take away privileges. They blantly have mistated our training at the podiatry school and residency levels and have attempted to convince the public that their opposition is purely for patient safety. Yet they have no guidelines as to which orthopedists are qualified to do foot and ankle surgery and to discuss their differences in training. Some ortho residencies have no formal foot training and many have less than a month in 5 years. The foot fellowships have interested me. Are they for orthopedists who need remedial training in this area ? Or is it admitting the need for specialized post graduate training? It depends who answers that question a foot fellow or a general orthopod the answer you will get. If it is patient safety why have they not stopped the rearfoot and ankle work that has been done by trained and credentialed DPMs over the last 30 years? If we are so dangerous: Why do they hire us to practice full scope in their orthopedic and multispecialty groups? Why do they publish DPM authored articles in their peer review articles? Why do they refer us ankle and rearfoot patients? Why do they ask us to lecture to them? Simple they know that those DPMs credentialed by hospitals ( with credentials committess that often include orthopedists) who receive these privileges are trained and competent. Now would I be protective of my turf if I were an orthopod? Probably. It would make me nervous that DPMs are taking jobs from foot fellows. It would make me nervous that we lost the hand to plastics, the spine to neurosurgery, and now the foot and ankle to trained DPMs. They are expected to fight, it's the tactics that disturb me. If by their spin DPMs lose their historical privileges, the citizens of Texas will be endangered. Many rural and border areas will lose their only foot and ankle surgeon (a DPM). Residency programs will be affected and the best trained DPMs will avoid or move out of the state. They do have one thing they are better at than us. They work as a team. They may not all get along but they say the same mantra over an over. We need the to do the same. When you bash podiatry, exaggerate it's weaknesses, and overzealously discuss often perceived educational issues(often based upon experiences 20 years ago) you give the other side ammo. This site and some it's negative posts have been used. If you truly believe soemthing, I am not suggesting you not say it just do not embellish. The opposition is visiting this site. IP address searches would surprise many of you who some of these anti podiatry posters are. All I will say is some are not DPMs and have other degrees. Some even do foot and ankle surgery. Get it. The DOs were attacked by MDs just 2-3 decades ago. They worked together and now allopathic medicine has "accepted" them not because they wanted to but because they have to. Oral surgeons had the same battles and worked with general dentists to prevail. Let's follow their leads and do the same for podiatry. from IP address 152.163.100.130 |
Rumor . . . Hoax?by Al Kline DPM (no login)I don't see the reference to this bill when I go to the website. I talked to an inside sourse of the TPMA, and this is what he said: "460 remains in a state of flux. Basically, whenever we make a mutually agreed concession with TMA, they come back later and turn it down. It has been a real struggle. The type of misinformation propaganda that you reference is widespread. It has been a fight in this alone, let alone trying to pass a bill out of committee." from IP address 69.154.49.244 |
Untitledby bob (no login)I am still in high school but I am very interested in podiatry. What school would be good to apply for undergrad. Also do I have to perform surgery as a podiatrist? Thanks from IP address 24.47.117.180 |
Podiatry Schoolsby ann (no login)Hi everyone, I was just wondering if people could post their experiences, whether bad or good, in Podiatry School and what school they went to. from IP address 69.226.226.118 |
Des Moinesby Anonymous (no login)I am a CPMS graduate. I feel that the education combined with the D.O. basic sciences curriculum along with problem based learning was superior to other schools that I was granted admission to nearly 10 years ago. The cost of living as well as the quality of life (the little that you might have outside school) were great. I found the professors (both basic science and clinical) to be some of the best teachers I've had. I would go there again if I was a budding podiatrist in your shoes. from IP address 67.10.181.219 |
Re: Podiatry Schoolsby newdoc (no login)i went to temple. it was ok. but my residency, which is respected is crap. from IP address 205.147.244.6 |
Don'tby future MD (no login) I started out in pod school until i realized the reality that is podiatry. My advice is to run don't walk away from this profession. I started Ross University and it was the best decision I made. podiatry school is what I like to call the big lie!!! Sure the first two years are like any other med school but the last two, well thats when reality sets in. I will leave you with this. Why go into a profession in which you will accumulate $160,000 loan dept to only start out making <$70,000. It doesn't make sence. I am almost done with first year residency and am already getting offered $140,000 to start. Please, it's not worth it. from IP address 143.104.179.229 |
It is Spelled SENSE, not Sence, Mr.by Finny (no login)It doesn't make SENSE that any medical student could misspell spell SENSE, sence. Does it? It goes to show that not all physicians are good at what they do. Get it? from IP address 68.188.222.220 |
Student Loansby a.b. (no login)Yes, however, not all "doctors" have 150K in evergrowing student loan debt with no way out in sight, and DPMs have very few if any ways to pay back their loans. Many are in negative amortization, which can be sheer torture on your life and your family. Think very hard about podiatrics. from IP address 134.174.248.70 |
Podiatry schoolsby (no login)I went to NYCPM, graduated in 2000. Did the 3 year residency route, including the surgical training. My opinion is: podiatry is a great field. You can go to any school, apply yourself, and do fine. I thought the strengths of NYCPM was the clinical training. I actually got out knowing how to do most clinical podiatry, and learned the rest (primarily surgery and inpatient care) during residency. I bought a practice before I finished residency, started the Monday after I graduated, and never looked back. It is very "do-able" and so far very rewarding. Anyone interested in this field please contact me at phootdr@optonline.net, and I will answer any questions to the best of my ability as to my experiences. Jason Cohen, DPM Bronx, NY from IP address 69.119.131.147 |
Temple Podiatryby JazzyFeet (no login)I love it here at Podiatry school. I go to Temple, so it's right in the middle of Philly and it's a very rigorous program. We study hard and party well. Just make sure to focus on your books and get help early if your grades aren't where you want them to be. I definitely would suggest that you look into attending Temple School of Podiatric Medicine...we're simply the best!!! from IP address 155.247.166.29 |
So you want to be a family practice doc instead?by Anonymous (no login)Read this on Medscape today... ------------------------------------------------------------- Will Family Practice survive? Topic created Mar 21, 2005 by An_1206172 Today I got to the office at 8AM, did some desk work, started seeing patients at 9AM. Saw 31, finished at 5:30, had a 30-minute lunch break between 12:30-1:00 PM. While I ate lunch I reviewed 8 consults, 12 radiology reports, 6 ER labs. During the day I refilled 14 Rxs by phone, wrote 8 Rxs for mail order, countersigned 4 Home Care orders, signed for samples from 3 Reps, gave 8 telephoned requests for medical advice. The 31 patients had mixtures of hypertension, T1 and T2 Diabetes, anxiety, depression, sinusitis, bronchitis, pharyngitis, asthma, hypothyroidism, bipolar disorder, schizophrenia, lumbar radiculitis, lumbosacral myalgia,cervical radiculitis, angina, CHF, stress and migraine headaches, for which I wrote an additional 64 prescriptions. My total charges were $2015 which insurance will discount to $1410. Over a 5-day week, 48 weeks a year I will gross $338,400, and after a 60% overhead, will net $135,360 for 2160 hours per year of work. That comes to $63 an hour. I doubt that my day differs much from any other family doc these days. But I now wonder why I didn't go into some specialty where my breath of knowledge is more narrow, but deeper, I only need to see 2-3 patients an hour, but I can realize at least another $20 an hour of net income. Will family practice survive? from IP address 66.6.80.49 |
Stay Away from Medicineby jim (no login)We would not recommend medicine to anyone these days, the money is terrible compared to the hundred's of thousands in training/schooling, very long hours and fear of being sued is quite imminent. Buy investments and read Rich Dad/ Poor Dad. from IP address 134.174.1.26 |
Medicine Still Gives Opportunitiesby Jed (no login)So, in other words, you can either be sued or you can sue? Just kidding. "Long hours?" Most Americans work over 40 hrs a week. "Long Schooling and lawsuits?" 60 hrs a week in a factory doesn't seem too appealing either. Take the opportunities while they are available. from IP address 68.188.222.220 |
Stay Away from Medicine Based on Loans, Hours worked, etc...by a/b. (no login)150K in debt after 8 years of "schooling" stuck in training/residency/fellowship which is NOT a real job but glorified slave, scut labor for 35-50K pre-taxes, followed by "job" ops of 50-100K before taxes including reqd. weekend work and min. of 60-70 hours a week, does not sound too prestgious or successful to us. Law suits-they are everywhere and "docs" are foder for JDs who make a killing off of both good and "bad" docs. The labor involved is immense: you are not making hamburgers or playing with 3-ring binders in a lame office corporate job (please see office space for a documentry on the current American" "work" force) you are doing surgery, diagnosing, dealing with immense paperwork (this is American-lotsa papers), and much, much more. Beepers day/night, Might sound cool like you're in need, however, have a real family, and calls during holidays and precious family time, those beepers for free work are not very nice. Read Rich dad/poor dad at least 4X and invest. Follow your dreams, however, there are so many other ways to make a good income and more importantly have a high quality of life, which in a typical "job" does not offer any quality of life but to make the boss rich. Period. Work steals your life. from IP address 134.174.248.70 |
Carawayby out of text (no login)I think the family practice doc that you are referring to wishes he went into an internalist sub-field such as cardiology or Otolaryngologist, not podiatry. No offense but I have never heard of an MD or DO that felt a desire to start over and enroll in pod school so that he/she could work on feet for a living. That is why a truly believe that podiatry has its place. Very few people could actually enjoy looking at feet all day. Yours, Caraway from IP address 138.47.91.230 |
noneby footdoc (no login)it's "breadth", not breath, and yes, you should have chosen another career from IP address 69.217.157.180 |
bursitis_cortizone injections_serious complicationsby (no login)hello, If someone can please help.... I have inflamed heel bursas on my calcaneous (dont know if they are anterior, posterior - or both. i had an xray done which ruled out heel spurs but showed a dint in the bone where the bursa is located at the back of the heel. I am unfortunately currently in a third world country that apparently does not have feet specialists and after two incorrect diagnosises by completely incompetent orthopedic doctors I did the xray. I have had pain in both heels for three months now and this developed after carrying excessive weight up steep rocky hills. I did not rest my feet enough and continued carrying weight up the hill once or twice a week. my running shoes which are a bit narrow at the heel may have contributed to the problem. 6 weeks after the original strain on my feet i develeped the pain heel upon rising in the morning or after periods of rest or after carrying ANY weight and or walking more than a couple of hours. I think i also have slight plantar fascia but this has improved drastically with rest and hot/cold contrast foot baths. I am also using orthopedic inserts that have support for the plantar fascia and a soft heel. I do not have pain upon walking first thing in the morning anymore. Since three months I have had pain upon touch on the bursa area - mainly at the back of the heel but also on the inside side of teh foot (about a cm or two away from the middle of the back of the foot). Yesterday after the X-ray the doctor injected the back of my heels (possibly bursa area) with a couple shots of cortizone in each heel. Seconds later there was a large swelling (1/2 to 1 cm) on the area where he injected. he used cortizone and an anaestetic and he seemed to have to press very hard to inject into the area. I could walk afterwards and felt only numbnesss in my heels. about 45 minutes later the pain began. It was intense and seemed to affect my lower legs as well. my feet were hot and red and maybe swollen. i used cold on my feet and that took the heat away. Since then i can not walk. well, i can walk but i can only use my lower leg muscles lifting and placing my feet on the ground but not with the foot. specifically, i can not use the muscles or tendons to lift my heels off the ground. i also can not lift my toes - or pull my toes towards me with the strength of my feet. it is as if i have lost my muscle strength. I have done a couple of hot/cold feet baths and do not know if this is the correct thing to do. Is it normal to have such a reaction to these cortizone shots? I am concerned that perhaps he filled the bursas too full of liquid and or injected into the tendons. perhaps he injected into the muscles and nerves also?! something feels very very wrong and he injected directly into the areas i showed him that were my painful spots on the feet. perhaps i need to have the bursas drained. or perhaps the cortizone will simply disolve (how long?) and my feet will again be normal. i have also read about risks of a ruptured tendon if the cortizone is injected into a tendon and do not know if i should completely stay off of my feet and for how long, stetch the calves and feet or?! I have absolutely no way to get correct information from any doctors in this country. I can find no research on the internet of such a reaction of a cortizone injection. If anyone can please help I would be very grateful. Any advise and information please. many thanks brenda from IP address 216.184.127.178 |
If it hurts when you do it, don't do itby (no login)There is no subsitute for rest! I repeat, no subsitute. Yours, D. L. Bates, DPM from IP address 65.40.206.163 |
This this forum is bad? Read Medscape/WebMD forums!by Anonymous (no login)If you think that some of the problems discussed here only apply to the business of Podiatric Medicine & Surgery, I suggest you come to Medscape and take a look at some of the forums. They're fine with us registering as MD/DO's and went as far to suggest we sign up as Ortho's and to make sure we subscribe to many of the newsletters (Derm, Ortho, IM, ID, etc) since almost all of the pertain to Podiatry from IP address 67.10.181.219 |
RD: I have another question.by Caraway (no login)RD, I have another question for you. Many MDs classify themselves as either a physician or a surgeon. Do you believe that a DPM who speacializes in foot and ankle surgery is classified as a surgeon? If not, do you consider a DDS who speacializes in oral surgery a surgeon? The word "surgeon" is enclosed in the title of "oral surgery". I would consider an oral surgeon a surgeon indeed. However, these guys hold a DDS not an MD. I'm just trying to understand where your argument lies and where you are coming from. I have come to believe that some of your opinions come straight out of left field. I realize this forum is directed towards podiatry. I am merely using oral surgery as an example. While I'm on the subject, you claim a physician is a doctor who practices full scope medicine. However a Otolaryngologist only practices on the ears nose and throat. An Ophthalmologist only does eye surgery. A Dermatologist just deals with skin. These doctors speacialize in one particular area, yet they are considered physicians. The only thing that separates these degrees from denistry, optometry or podiatry for that matter, is the suffix behind the doctors last name. In fact the only physicians that practice full scope medicine are family practice and internal medicine or sub-speacialties of internal medicine. Since you ignorantly claim to have all the answers, you should have no problem answering this simple question. However, I'm sure you will ignore this message if you are unsure of the answer. I realize that a podiatrist is not considered physicians by the AMA. However I think you are completly off base with some of your remarks. Why have you made it your life's work to criticize others? In the mean time have fun teaching English and grading what other have posted. God knows your not practicing medicine! Your too ignorant. Please respond. The debate is on! Yours, Caraway from IP address 138.47.106.174 |
AMA Who?by (no login)Who gives a flyin F%*k what the AMA thinks. They are just a big political oganization who lobbie and blow their own horn, looking out solely for thier own interest. Hell of course we are not physicians to them, even the MD's who decline the dues and the membership are not REAL physicians, hell if they were they'd belong to the AMA, right? from IP address 68.155.175.195 |
Chill out Dr. Anonby Caraway (no login)How uncouth of you to argue in such a manner. I am on your side. I have no desire to be a podiatrist. I want to be an MD. However, podiatry was once an option that I strongly considered pursuing. The truth is that even though I no longer want to become a pod, I admire you guys for your admiration and will to succeed. I merely posted what the AMA says, not what I believe is right. I do believe podiatrists should be granted the term physician. However, dispite the errors that some websites have made, they are not legally declared physicians. As a junior in college my advisor has helped me in deciding what graduate program I should pursue after graduation. He gave a brochure with over 200 jobs in healthcare. Under the term physician, was MD/DO. Podiatry had a sub-heading of its own. If a brochure is going to be sent to college advisors to help students decide which graduate program to pursue, it should be 100% accurate. I do not make the rules. Even though I have argued with RD extensively on this subject, our arguments were mosty because I believe that all podiatrists should be considered legal physicians he thinks you guys should not become physicians and are not fit to be termed physicians. However our argument was never about what podiatrist are considered at the present moment. I enjoy debating RD because of his arrogance and cockiness. I do believe strongly that podiatry has it place. I also believe that the AMA should grant the term physician to podiatry. Like I said before, I don't make the rules, so don't me mad at me for what the AMA says. I believe podiatrists should carry the term podiatric-physician. However, that is not not the legal term at the present moment. Yours, Caraway from IP address 138.47.74.102 |
For RD (want to be MD)by Caraway (no login)RD, Listen very carefully. This story may confuse someone as ignorant as yourself. Like I said before, I was informed about this website by a podiatrist that works at the hospital that I am mentored. The reason I struck up a conversation with the female podiatrist in the first place was because we both had the same last name. She is a regular to this website and thought it would offer me an insightful perspective of the politics regarding podiatry. I was poorly educated on the subject of podiatry as a grad school option. What she probally intended to be a converstaion that would last only a minute or two, turned out to last about 15 to 20 minutes. The message you are refering to, was not written by me. Possibly, by the Dr. Caraway that I know. However, I do not know for sure. Do an IP look up and I am fairly confident that you will see that it's not from me. Your the one who enters forums falsely posing as a doctor, not me. And as for what you claim is bad English, is a message that was thrown together in a matter of minutes. For your information, I Aced both of my Comp classes. I put a lot of time an effort into all my papers in English class. They were not thrown togeather. Excuse me if I do not think you are worth going through the trouble of proof reading my messages. When I send in my application to allopathic med school, I will be sure to spend more than a matter of minutes on that. Look though this forum and you will see an array of bad english. Do you think normal people actually take grammer serious in a forum? You can find something wrong with everyone's messages if you look hard enough. It appears as though someone has already criticized the grammer in your last message. The only diffence between someone criticizing your grammer and someone criticizing mine is that I put very little time and effort into grammer. You obviously do, and yet someone can still find something wrong with yours. I concentrate more on what I am actually debating. I think I found out what you really are. Your an English teacher who is mad at the world because you took the bare minimum requirements for to apply to med school and did not get in. In return you find someway to bash those who actually are med shool material. What's next, are you going to start grading our remarks? I do not want to become a podiatrist. I did my research, and it simply is not for me. However, I still enjoy debating you because even though you put much thought into grammer skills, you put very little thought into what you are actually arguing about! You completly ignore those who offer logical explanations regarding your negative comments. I simply do not like you beacause of the uncouth behavior bestow on everyone in this forum. To answer your question, yes this is America, and it would be a much better place if people like you, who have nothing positive to say about others, could keep their damn mouths shut and their negative comments to themselves. You still did not answer my questions regarding what speacialty you are in. I still percieve you as a huge lier. Your not fooling anyone. Oh yeah, I did not proof read this message for you. So don't get your panties in a wedge if you find a comma splice error. God speed on grading the messages in this forum. Your life is obviously a joke Yours, Caraway from IP address 138.47.106.174 |
Re: For RD (want to be MD)by newdoc (no login)caraway, i am a podiatrist and i think yo uare hilarious:) from IP address 205.147.244.6 |
experiences and other thingsby (no login)I shadowed a podiatris which I detailed in another posting. I have to say that I found feet to be fairly repulsive at first. I've been a podiatric patient so I had a fairly good idea of what they did. For instance, I had two toe surgeries that led to very good results. In any case, I kept asking myself if I could deal with feet all day. Then I thought, could I deal with vaginas all day? Could I deal with vomiting kids all day? My point is that every field of medicine has its very disgusting parts to it. Medicine is about people. And most people are pretty nasty. Imagine being a gastroenterologist? I'd rather deal with the foot and ankle. I'm fairly positive about podiatry. I got accepted at Barry. By no means did they water things down. The interviewer went through my aademic record. Any discrepancies HAD to be explained. She also told me that when I pratice I need to go to an area with few pods. If not, she said I'd starve. She was realisitc. She said that you could have a great career, but you had to THINK first. Podiatry is a medical profession and a business. It requires more thought and planning than other fields of medicine. She was a professor of anatomy, and had only good things to say about podiatry. Good but REALISTIC things. The bottom line is that I'm at a point in my life where I'm not worried about labels. I don't care whether someone thinks I'm an MD or not. After I get my degree I won't be a DPM, I'll be the same guy I was before: just plain, old Nick. I got into medicine to have a special skill I could help people with. Whether an MD, DDS, DMD, or DPM makes little difference to me. However, the DPMs I have know haven't had an air of arrogance about them. They are porfessionals that care about their patients. They prescribe medicine, they perform surgical procedures. They are highly trained. They are doctors of their field. from IP address 24.92.180.82 |
thank youby JEFF (no login)THANK YOU... Word to ya motha !!!!!! I can't wait to be a DPM... Jeff from IP address 129.255.138.54 |
Re: experiences and other thingsby Al Kline DPM (no login)I always said I'de rather be a podiatrist than a proctologist! Regards . . . http://podassociates.proboards25.com/ from IP address 24.175.173.36 |
proctologistby (no login)Ha! That's good! I forgot about that one! Imagine looking at people's buttholes all day! from IP address 67.8.20.188 |
noneby footdoc (no login)and most do not make an income that justifies their training and experience from IP address 69.217.157.180 |
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