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WISHING THIS WAS A DREAM AND IT IS NOT

by Dr. A (no login)

I did my research before i joined podiatry

Podiatrist 25th%ile Median 75th%ile
The United States $83,224 $115,338 $154,787
Employment of podiatrists is expected to grow about as fast as the average for all occupations through 2012.

ALL OF IT IS BULL****

I did two year residency...and work as a podiatrist for 10 year. I want out. It suck BIG TIME. Look at the new york times job section....every other medical profession are needed except our. I would have had a better life if i was a dentist, or lawyer. I was trick in podiatry because I wanted to be a doctor...well being a podiatrist suck. Everyone in my family is a doctor...a M.D. and i was stupid enough to go to podiatry. They make so much more money than me and respected more. The truth is out profession is full of just cutting corn and callus..that is our bread and butter. I was sucker.There is nothing you can do with your degree except podiatry.....

I feel like i ****ed my life over.. I am totally screwed because of this. Stuck in a job that suck......GOD HELP ME PLEASE. I wake up wishing this was a dream and it is not.

Posted on Jul 19, 2004, 5:51 PM
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Re: WISHING THIS WAS A DREAM AND IT IS NOT

by John (no login)

Sorry about that

Posted on Jul 23, 2004, 8:02 PM
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Re:wishing this was a dream and it is not

by mellerdpm (no login)

Just quit then. Or you could try to improve the situation. I am three weeks out of residency, until one week ago, the podiatrists in my area had only affiliated staff priviledges at the hospital (basically second class citizens as you speak of in your posting). Our surgical priviledges allowed only forefoot procedures. After the most recent bylaws committee meeting we now are on full staff at the hospital with no need for co-admit for 23 hour stay and the only provision is a medical consult is need for extended hospital admissions. Our priviledges include procedures up to the talar dome(bony) and we are allowed soft tissue below the knee. We will also be taking foot and ankle ER trauma call with the orthopods in the area. We will in the next year most likely obtain the credentials that many in our area have the training to perform including frames, IM nails, and ankle and pilon fractures. This initial improvement was about a 6 month process. The podiatrists in the area were able to come together and effectively lobby for a better standing in the medical community. It not the way it should be to have to fight for these things that we are already trained to do, but that is the way it is.
By the way it is not all nails and calluses. About to finish my 3rd week of private practice. I have seen 80 patients, with 57 new patients. Only 7 routine nail patients. Plantar fasciitis, neuromas, ingrown nails, abcesses, tendonitis, tendon ruptures. Billed out over 20,000 in the 1st 3 weeks.
As to your disguise for corns and calluses, maybe if you focused on the conservative and surgical correction for these hyperkeratotic lesions developing, maybe your profession would be more interesting and you most likely
will make more money.
Have you investigated incorporated new methods in your treatment protocols, for instance diagnostic ultrasound and shockwave therapy for plantar fasciitis cases. Will be beneficial to your patients and also pays well.

Posted on Jul 27, 2004, 10:20 PM
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dreams?

by DJF (no login)

I agree. You reaaalllyy should have done your homework dude! Stop whinning.

Posted on Jul 29, 2004, 11:28 AM
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Re: WISHING THIS WAS A DREAM AND IT IS NOT

by Robert (no login)

Have you considered that perhaps it is a lack of intelligence that is holding you back? Judging by the numerous grammatical errors in your post, such an explanation would not surprise me.

Posted on Aug 3, 2004, 10:41 PM
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Re: WISHING THIS WAS A DREAM AND IT IS NOT

by (no login)

Yes, I agree with you, Robert. Obviously that individual has more issues than simply being dissatisifed with his career choice.

Posted on Aug 13, 2004, 6:47 PM
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Finding podiatry work?

by anonymous (no login)

So are new podiatrists just out of residency having problems finding work?

Posted on Jul 18, 2004, 4:52 PM
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Look b4 finishing residency...

by Anonymous (no login)

Most graduating DPM's look for and find work while in their last year of residency...

Posted on Jul 22, 2004, 9:37 PM
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medical school and debt

by John (no login)

This is taken from APMA web.

Debt is medical school issue, It is not only podiatry.

Go to M.D and read about debts.

This is just an example.




The average medical school debt continues to rise. At the same time, physician salaries continue to decline across most medical specialties. There is growing concern that these inverse trends will impact physicians'-in-training specialty choice, depression rates and work-related errors. As the Medical Student Debt coordinator, I hope to address this growing concern by:

Researching specifically how debt effects specialty choice
Working with coalition partners to define and advance a legislative solution and potentially hosting a debt forum of medical student leaders to establish a position of unity on the issue
Updating the Legislative Action Center on the latest information regarding debt legislation
Contact: Nihar Desai, Medical Student Debt Coordinator

Medical student debt has been increasing at sky rocketing rates over the past decade. While medical students have always had problems with high debt, today's generation of young physicians have seen their debt become unmanageable. With low pay during residency and swelling tuition rates, medical students have to shoulder increasingly large loan payments that take more and more of their income.

Over the past decade, tuition increases in particular have been a major reason for increased medical student debt levels. However, the topic is much more complex than higher tuition rates. Learn more about medical school tuition and see our Student Action Guide on fighting tuition increases.

How much has student debt increased?
The increase in medical student tuition is one of the main contributors to student debt. Today many states face a budget crisis and universities are finding much of their state and federal funding cut, thus forcing them to raise tuition. Between 1990-1991 and 2000-2001 average medical school tuition and fees grew by 33% in private four- year institutions and 40% in public four-year institutions.

Stop blaming podiatry for all the problems

Posted on Jul 18, 2004, 2:57 PM
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Are you kidding me?

by (no login)

A podiatrist will work on the foot and ankle. The medical doctor has
the entire system gamed for his success.

To date, while there are a few places where a DPM can get some loans cancelled, and in reality those slots are not available, the MD has plenty of options.

The MD will be fought over when he is out of his Residency. He will get mega bucks, and a real package of benefits. The Podiatrist is told to 'move South' or 'move to the rural areas'.

I have been listening to dribble for years. I am sick of the lies.
We all know the truth, but, some have a vested interest in stating certain lies.


The Center for Peer Review Justice, Inc.

www.PeerReview.org

Posted on Jul 19, 2004, 4:10 AM
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Re: Are you kidding me?

by Anonymous (no login)

And some have a vested interest in "bashing". Which one are you Rich?
The TRUTH is nothing is 100% whether it be DDS, DPM, MD, DO ect... POdiatrists make less money than MD's no one here is trying to say otherwise and any student entering the profession thinking they have equal opportunities in job or income opportunity is delusional.

Posted on Jul 24, 2004, 10:29 AM
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Podiatry school is NOT med school

by DPM (no login)

MDs are in demand everywhere. Every speciality is utilized to the fullest. To assume DPMs go through medical school is very far fetched. Pods go to podiatry school, physicians go to medical school.

I have to agree with Rich on this.

DPM

Posted on Jul 27, 2004, 2:15 PM
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Re: Podiatry school is NOT med school

by DPM (no login)


Podiatry school is med school
by DPM (no login)

.

I do not to agree with Rich on this.

DPM

Posted on Jul 28, 2004, 9:30 PM
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how old are you?

by Resident (no login)

I beg to differ. I am a DPM/PGY-1. Currently I am 1 of about 20 Internal medicine PGY-1's. I have my own patients and am responsible for their care just like all the other PGY-1's.

Maybe when you trained you were just a podiatrist. I am training to be a Podiatric Surgeon/Physician, a very capable Doctor with a very important specialty. Welcome to 2004, podiatry is evolving whether you see it or not. Take some time to research what the DPM's in-training are doing today. Our training is very different than it was even ten years ago.

I see our profession getting ever closer to parity with the MDs and DOs.....

Resident

Posted on Jul 31, 2004, 12:10 PM
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you are pathetic

by DPM (no login)

I am old enough to be your father. You, on the other hand, are a baby doc and the reality of podiatry has not hit you yet. I your question should have read 'How old am I?'

Posted on Aug 16, 2004, 10:15 AM
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TO all prospectinve students

by DPM (no login)



Tomorrow is no guarantee

Use your skills and talents to make a difference

It does not matter if you are janitor or a rocket scientist,

you can use your knowledge to be the best you can be.

Be greatful for who you are and what you have today.

Tomorrow is no guarantee

There are people who are paralyzed and cannot lift a finger

There are people who cannot even finish elementary school

Be proud of the opportunity to have a DOctorate

Tomorrow is no guarantee

Do not spend the rest of your life being angry and negative.

Do what you can do today and follow your dream
Doctors, Lawyers, Nurses.

I am amazed by what I am reading on that website. I realize that people are never going to be satisfied even if they possess the world. Everyone wants to be M.D. or D.O

Life is a tree, we are the branches. Unfortunately, we all cannot be on top. It is reality

Use your energy to pick up the pieces, rise above the obstacles, and be the best
Do what you can do today, stop using energy on EGO
or figthing for two letters behind your name (M.D).

If you want to be a podiatrist, follow your dream.

DPM



Posted on Jul 17, 2004, 2:18 PM
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Re: TO all prospectinve students

by VERY IMPORTANT (no login)


You are right !

If life gives a lemon, make a lemonade.
The opportunity to have a doctorate is great and not every one has that chance. Success does not depends on choice of major. You can have an MBA from Harvard and fail and an A.A from a community to have success. There is no correlation between profession and probability to succeed.

New students, Just do not borrow more than you need.

Character makes great people, not the initial behind their names.
I agree follow your dream. be the best you can be. Do not trust what you are reading. You do not know those people who are posting those messages with fake names and fake credentials.

You may be reading something from a 12 year old or from a martian.Again, You do not know those people and their intention.
IF you DO not know the messenger, you cannot trust him, and you cannot believe the message

Thanks for posting this on the web.

We invite more positive peolpe to do the same.

Evil tries to destroy
Love always prevails

2 thumbs up!

Posted on Jul 18, 2004, 2:29 PM
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to all prospective students

by DPM (no login)

25th%ile Median 75th%ile
Podiatrist $84,722 $117,414 $157,573
Dentist $97,044 $112,956 $136,403

check it for yourself at
www.salary.com

Job Description

Podiatrist:

Examines, diagnoses and treats disorders, diseases, deformities or injuries of the foot. Consults with patients to determine the appropriate course of treatment. Recommends and orders tests to determine extent of illness or help diagnose condition. Requires a degree in medicine from an accredited school and is licensed to practice. May require at least 2-4 years of podiatry experience. Familiar with standard concepts, practices, and procedures within a particular field. Relies on experience and judgment to plan and accomplish goals. Performs a variety of tasks. May report to a medical director. A wide degree of creativity and latitude is expected.

Posted on Jul 16, 2004, 8:50 PM
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not reflective of acutal pay

by SM, DPM (no login)

Podiatrists are not a salaries position. There has never been a specific or localized study of DPMs earnings. There have been forms mailed out to DPMs requesting their pay. DPMs have the highest loan default rate amongst any other profession. Applications are down 40%. Schools are integrating with several junior colleges and are accepting substandard students.

This profession is very much a gamble and a dangerous one at that.

Posted on Jul 17, 2004, 9:59 AM
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Outright lies

by New Pod (no login)

This message is an absolute lie. I can break it down line by line. Your first line is that

"Podiatrist are not a salaried position".
Wrong. I know many people that are making a salary, salary plus bonus, etc. If you open up your own practice, then there is no guaranteed salary.

"There has never been a specific or localized study of DPMs earnings. There have been forms mailed out to DPMs requesting their pay."
Thats just a contradiction right there. That is a study of DPMs earnings. APMA does this every year. You can argue that it is not truely reflective of all DPMs since only the ones doing well will respond. But that wasnt even your arguement. Secondly government website list out job opportunities and Podiatrists have consistently been at the top. Where do they get their info? I dont know, but I doubt they just make it up. I will look into that further, but obviously there have been a few surveys, studies, etc on what DPMs make.

"DPMs have the highest loan default rate amongst any other profession."
Show me proof of that. It is true that we have very high debt, so I dont doubt that there are many people out there that just couldnt make enough to pay their student loans, but you are making a pretty bold statement and I have never heard that before. I dont tend to believe statements like that without some proof.

"Applications are down 40%"
What!?! This sounds good, but I think its completely made up. I graduated in 2003. My entering class was the smallest in our schools history. But each year after that applications and enrollement actually went up every year. That trend has happened since every podiatry school opened. Applications are cyclical. So there are about 5-10 year periods where applications go up, then the next 5-10 years they go down. So when are you talking about applications are down 40%. Not since last year, and certainly not over the last 5 years. Applications have been up.

"Schools are integrating with several junior colleges and are accepting substandard students."
Now I know you are just making things up. There are 7 Podiatry schools with one more on the way. None of them are integrated with a Junior college. California is a part of Samuel Merritt College which is a health science college with graduate degrees in nursing, PA, PT, etc. Not a JC. Iowa is part of Des Moines University Osteopathic Medical Center. Which is an Osteopathic medical school which also has graduate degrees in PA and PT. Chicago is a part of Finch University/The Chicago Medical school. Doesnt sound like a JC to me. Ohio's school is independent. Philly's school is associated with Temple University which offers professional degrees in Medicine, Law, and Dentistry in addition to their Podiatry degree. The florida school is a part of Barry University School of Graduate Medical Sciences. I honestly know nothing about the NY school, but Im pretty sure they arent integrated with a JC. I think they are an independent school too. The last school is Arizona which hasnt opened yet, but is a part of Az college of Osteopathic medicine. So again, part of a medical school, not a JC.

Pretty much all your statements in your short post were outright lies. I know this board is mostly negative and full of people who have failed as podiatrists. Several are justified in their hatred for the profession and post about how they were mistreated or mislead, but your post has no truth to it at all. It is unacceptable to bad mouth the profession with lies. Podiatry has plenty wrong with it that you could have made a podiatry bashing post without lying. You could do the same with just about every other profession though. Im currently in the 2nd year of my PM&S 36 residency and rotate with about 20 podiatrist that are in private practice to help and observe their offices as well as assist them in surgery. All of them are doing well. Im not saying all podiatrist do well or should do well, Im just saying my experiences are vastly different than most of the ones on this board. I have rotated all over the country as a 4th year student and now experence several podiatry offices in several cities (in a larger metro area) and have found plenty of opportunites for someone willing to work hard and plan ahead. Please dont post here if you are going to make up your information. Id rather have an open discussion on what is right and wrong with podiatry so maybe new podiatrists can get together and help improve the profession.

New Pod

Posted on Jul 18, 2004, 11:02 AM
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thank you

by 3rd year (no login)

Thanks for your positive comments. People like you better our profession and are role models for those still in the podiatric medical schools across the country. Good luck and again, THANK YOU.

Posted on Jul 19, 2004, 2:45 AM
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Re: Outright lies

by surette (no login)

T hanks for making your point and being so articulate.

It is amazing to see how people can be so negative instead of trying to make a difference. People are writting so many lies on that webstide to prevent someone making his or her own decision. Nothing in life is easy. I am not a podiatrist, but most are doing well.

. Where do you guys get those lies ? tIt is incredible.
It is just not right. You only create confusion.

I am not a podiatrist and I wonder how people can be so negative toward thein own profession. You are not fixing anything by doing that. Do not trust this website, yo will never meet those people writting those things. Do not based your future on someone's perceptions

Where are the positive people?
raise your voice. Do not be silent. Do not be silent. Raise your voice.

Please do not respond to my message. I am not reading that website again. I do not want to have a depression
Again, do not waste time responding.

Incredible

Posted on Jul 19, 2004, 1:36 PM
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New Pod

by Old DPM (no login)

Come talk to me when you have been in practice for 10+ years.

Posted on Jul 19, 2004, 3:54 PM
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my response

by New Pod (no login)

I do not need to talk to you when I have been in practice for 10+ years. I work with about 15 podiatrists who have been in practice for between 2-30 years. I see them at the beginning and towards the ends of their careers. Some are doing great, some are doing very well, and others are just getting their feet wet. Most of them are about 7-10 years out of residency. So I know what these guys are going through. Even the new ones arent hurting. They complain a little (nothing like this board) but its just them working hard to get what they want. I cannot say enough times how few podiatrists I see struggling. Most of the ones that I know of (I dont work with any of them) struggle because of either poor motivation or they took a bad deal. They guys that started on their own have multiple offices, busy schedules, and plenty of surgery after 10 years or less.

What do you want me to know about 10 years out after residency? Why not start a new trend and actually offer to help rather than just hope everyone falls into the same pitfalls you did. Everyone that complains about this profession does the same thing. They tell no one to get into it or they laugh at the ones that fail and say "I told you so." No one actually says what went wrong, other than a lot of lip service like "the government/schools/mom tricked me/lied to me/srewed me, and now I am broke." Why not help new pods avoid some of your mistakes. So you tell me Im wrong and dont know what Im talking about, but I will give real examples of what I have seen, but that isnt good enough for you...your response is to wait 10 years. My senior resident just graduated our 3 year program and had multiple offers before he left for 6 figures with some at orthro groups. Sounds like some good deals, but he wanted to be his own boss and is opening his own practice. Whether he succeeds or fails, he knows that he did what made him happy and podiatry has been good to him. He passed up sure money to do what he wanted. So if he fails he has no one to blame but himself. I respect his decision and his taking responsibility for his actions. You will never see him on this board whining about his failures. People like him make it because they are hard working, motivated, and do what they love.

So unless you want to tell me what the 10 year story is, I dont think we will be talking again in the future. I would rather concentrate on being the best podiatrist I can be and making a sound practice for myself. (by the way, I have already had 2 offers for good money and Im not even half through my residency yet, but they want me when Im done) Things dont look so bleak in today's market.

New Pod

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how we are doing

by (no login)

i am a 1992 graduate from buspm and have always been in solo practice.i have two offices in the south florida area and have done well.
however,i have worked very hard and run my practice the way you would a small business.ours is not truly a life or death needed specialty.what we are is a life enhancing service most people can't do without after they visit a "great" podiatry practice.
with this attitude we can market podiatry and that we have to offer the way chiropractors have.the operative word here is "market."

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Re: outright lies

by mellerdpm (no login)

I completely concur with your assessment and statements. I just completed a PPMR/PSR24. I am currently on salary, no bonus this year. 92,000. I came from a resident that worked with about 40 attending. Not many are hurting. This is in area with a population of 250,000 people with 55 podiatrists. Yes, they have to hussle. Many in practice for over 10 to 15 years still get up at 5am to do nursing homes before seeing patients in the office. They are doing whatever it takes to succeed. Thank you for placed such a well thought out response.

Posted on Jul 27, 2004, 10:29 PM
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Re: not reflective of acutal pay

by Anonymous (no login)

Podiatrists are not a salaries position. There has never been a specific or localized study of DPMs earnings. There have been forms mailed out to DPMs requesting their pay. DPMs have the highest loan default rate amongst any other profession. Applications are down 40%. Schools are integrating with several junior colleges and are accepting substandard students.

This profession is very much a gamble and a dangerous one at that.

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There are podiatrists in salaried position, though you would be correct to say it is not the rule.

DPMs do not have the highest loan default rate. Percentages are skewed due to the small size of the profession. A single person with a default has a greater impact on the percentage than a single MD default. (Amazing, but those do happen too.) If you want to see a higher default rate look to chiropractics.

Applications are down 40%? Where did this come from? If you are going to quote figures, give us some reference so we can verify the accuracy. I doubt this figure.

Schools are integrating with several junior colleges and are accepting substandard students? Where did this come from? Are Temple University, Barry University, Finch University and Des Moines University junior colleges? Seems like these (and the other schools) offer a variety of graduate degrees (MS, PhD, DO, MD and DPM among others). I think it would be a stretch to consider these junior colleges. I doubt you could substantiate your claim that they are accepting substandard students also. There might be a couple here and there, but your statements seems to say that all the students accepted are substandard.

Please don't post such garbage statements. It really looks ridiculous.

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Re: not reflective of acutal pay

by SM, DPM (no login)

reflective of acutal pay
by SM, DPM (no login)

Podiatrists are a salaries position. There has been a specific or localized study of DPMs earnings.

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Re: not reflective of acutal pay

by Dieu est grand (no login)

. I know someone who finished about 4 years ago, He is doing very well and already opened 2 wound care clinics.

you made a few good points, but ther are a lot of people who are doing well. Just practice in the right location, like any profession.

Thanks

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Gamble

by alan (no login)

Absolutely agree with gamble and a substandard students that use podiatry as a 2nd, 3rd, or 4th choice after being rejected from MD, DO, DDS, or DVM schools. One needs a COMPLETE top to bottom clean-out of podiatry to vastly improve standards and ensure that individuals are fully apprised of gigantic student loan rates and default rates, public and MDs ignorant of DPM scope, and other major issues such as job finding and compensation. 60-100K ater 10 years in practice (remember the excellent book, Rich Dad, Poor Dad by Kiyosaki, "every year the value of money decreases", 10K in 1984 is a lot more than in 2004) after 9-12 years of schooling with approx. ~150000K in debt is a joke, and a sick one at that.

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Re: Gamble

by Anonymous (no login)

DDS schools? you're kidding right?
DVM is harder to get into than MD.
There were plenty of DPM students @ my college that would have gotten into the DO school (including myself) @ my college but CHOSE the DPM.

Not everyone has an ego and needs MD after their name. Some are priveleged to heal.

Posted on Jul 23, 2004, 7:48 PM
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You chose DPM over DO?

by Anonymous (no login)

Why would you ever do something like that? A DO can still specialize in feet and for some crazy reason it doesnt work you can CHANGE. A DPM cant. A DO will have a far easier time with insurance and admitting patients, ect. A DPM will have hurdles of trouble.

Realize what it stands for.

Doesnt Practice Medicine (DPM)

You made a horrible choice. You said you could have gotten in DO school. You probably didnt apply.

Sorry

Posted on Jul 26, 2004, 10:44 AM
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Re: You chose DPM over DO?

by Dr Clone Amber Gerr (no login)

Why wouldn't you ever do something like that? A DO cannot still specialize in feet and for some crazy reason it does work you cannot CHANGE. A DPM can. A DO will not have a far easier time with insurance and admitting patients, ect.
You did not make a horrible choice.

I am not Sorrierst

Posted on Jul 28, 2004, 9:35 PM
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Dr Clone Amber Gerr

by DPM (no login)

A DO can specialize in feet FYI. DOs are full-body physicians and are very capable of being orthopedic surgeons which in turn can specialize in feet. DPMs can not solely admit to hospitals - they must have a co-signer (AKA permission slip). A DO has the chance to change specialities if they desired, a DPM can not. DOs are a very real part of the healthcare team, DPMs are not. Lets just say that for one moment DPMs didnt exist. Would there be a problem servicing feet. Absolutely not.

DPM

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by Anonymous (no login)

were employed in much more varied fields, offering more options to those looking to use a top-10 list to find work in a fortune-building profession.

According to the 2001 Occupational Employment Statistics Survey conducted by the Department of Labor's Bureau of Labor Statistics (BLS), the top 11 to 20 highest-paying professions in the US are:
Monter.com
11. Podiatrists

$45.43/hr

$94,500/yr


12. Lawyers

$44.19/hr

$91,920/yr


13. Optometrists

$42.35/hr

$88,100/yr


14. Computer and information systems managers

$40.33/hr

$83,890/yr


15. Physicists

$40.26/hr

$83,750/yr


16. Air traffic controllers

$40.07/hr

$83,350/yr


17. Petroleum Engineers

$39.33/hr

$81,800/yr


18. Nuclear Engineers

$38.56/hr

$80,200/yr


19. Judges, magistrate judges, and magistrates

$38.24/hr

$79,540/yr


20. Marketing Managers

$37.70/hr

$78,410/yr


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Here are some basic facts ... enjoy

by SM, DPM (no login)

Here are some basic facts that show how great podiatry is.

* Annual tuition at the colleges of Podiatric Medicine for Fall 1999 ranged from $16,500 to $20,700. These amounts did not include fees, books, room and board, and other expenses.

* Approximately 500-700 people apply to one or more of the seven American Podiatric Medical schools each academic year. Of these, usually 88% are accepted. First year enrollment totals range from 600-700 per year. There was a decrease in the applicant pool for 1999 of 17% over 1998. The decrease was more severe than those of related health professions. At the time of the early summer 2000 TAAHP meeting, there were only 519 applicants for 606 seats in the Fall 2000 entering class. It was anticipated that class sizes would be reduced as a result.

* The male applicant pool was down by 24% in 1999, while that of the women was actually up by 1%. This resulted in an increase in the percentage of female applicants to podiatric medical school from 29% in 1998 to 35% in 1999.

* In 1999, minority students represented 33% of all applicants, up from 29% the previous year. 16.8% were Asian Americans, 10% were African Americans [compared to 7.4% last year], and Hispanic applicants remained nearly constant at 6%. The under-represented-minority [URMs] applicants increased from 13.3% to 16.8%. Despite the increase in minority applicants from '98 to '99, the AACOM believes that it is not effectively reaching out to under-represented minorities, who currently account for only 2% of practicing podiatrists.

* In 2002, there was a 21% decrease in patient volume.

This is the great profession we all know and love.

This is a BIG SCAM!

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Re: Here are some basic facts ... enjoy

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Here are some basic facts that show how great podiatry is.

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This is the great profession we all know and love.

Follow your heart. DO not read this website

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????

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I thought the year was 2004. What's up with the comments on minorities. I don't get it

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Re: Here are some basic facts ... enjoy

by Billy (no login)

We are making progress. There should be an increase in minority.

Thanks

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.......

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Occupation Report - Wage Comparison (ranked)

The following is a ranked list of your occupation across all states. If your location had an asterisk (*), dash (-), or (N/A) instead of the actual wage on the occupation report, it will not be displayed in the ranking list.

Wages: Podiatrists
# Location Median wages, 2002
Hourly Annual
1 Maryland $70.01+ $145,600+
2 Missouri $70.01+ $145,600+
3 Nevada $70.01+ $145,600+
4 Michigan $67.73 $140,900
5 Georgia $67.13 $139,600
6 Alabama $65.78 $136,800
7 Indiana $62.94 $130,900
8 Colorado $60.98 $126,800
9 Tennessee $60.83 $126,500
10 Minnesota $60.74 $126,300
11 Virginia $59.62 $124,000
12 Arkansas $57.40 $119,400
13 Washington $57.00 $118,600
14 Rhode Island $53.47 $111,200
15 Arizona $53.14 $110,500
16 New Hampshire $52.45 $109,100
17 Utah $50.11 $104,200
18 Iowa $48.77 $101,400
19 Texas $47.33 $98,400
20 Wisconsin $46.87 $97,500
21 FLORIDA $45.62 $94,900
UNITED STATES $45.61 $94,900
22 Connecticut $45.50 $94,600
23 Massachusetts $43.13 $89,700
24 Ohio $42.91 $89,300
25 South Carolina $42.38 $88,200
26 Pennsylvania $39.98 $83,200
27 Illinois $37.95 $78,900
28 Louisiana $37.25 $77,500
29 California $34.66 $72,100
30 New Jersey $34.48 $71,700
31 Maine $31.26 $65,000

Source: Bureau of Labor Statistics, Occupational Employment Stati

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Questions

by Tom (no login)

Is that before or after tax income, how many hours worked, is that a podiatrist or foot and ankle surgeon?

Thanks,

Tom

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Highest Paying Occupations


Overall

Listed below are occupations 1-25 of the 711 occupations with the highest median hourly wages in 2002. Click on an occupation to learn more about it, including state data.

# Occupation Median wages, 2002
Hourly Annual
1 Anesthesiologists $70.01+ $145,600+
2 Internists, General $70.01+ $145,600+
3 Obstetricians and Gynecologists $70.01+ $145,600+
4 Surgeons $70.01+ $145,600+
5 Pediatricians, General $64.11 $133,300
6 Psychiatrists $62.95 $130,900
7 Family and General Practitioners $62.79 $130,600
8 Chief Executives $60.70 $126,300
9 Dentists, which also incorporates:
Dentists, All Other Specialists
Dentists, General
Oral and Maxillofacial Surgeons
Orthodontists
Prosthodontists
$59.24 $123,200
10 Airline Pilots, Copilots, and Flight Engineers N/A $109,600
11 Podiatrists $45.61 $94,900
12 Judges, Magistrate Judges, and Magistrates $45.23 $94,100
13 Air Traffic Controllers $44.04 $91,600
14 Engineering Managers $43.71 $90,900
15 Lawyers $43.41 $90,300
16 Optometrists $41.39 $86,100

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The career salaries of physicians, surgeons and dentists are the highest paying careers
It may surprise you that according to the Bureau of Labor Statistics in the calendar-year 2000, the median annual earnings of physicians, surgeons and dentists were higher than those of chief executives. Airline pilots and podiatrists were behind chief executives.

The ten hottest careers were:
Surgeon
Obstetrician and Gynecologist
Anesthesiologist
General Internist
Pediatrician
Dentist
Psychiatrist
Family and General Practitioner
CEO
Podiatrist

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HMMMM......

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Viewing Job: podiatrist

Job Details
Employer Certified Medical
Job title podiatrist
Job Description Must be willing to travel throughout your state for a large money making oppurtunity,Please contact me for details.
Job Category Doctor
Salary $100,000.00 +
Reference podiatrist
Start date immed.
Closing date for applications n/a





How to apply
Please only apply for this job if you are already authorised to work in and/or already hold a work permit for the United States.


Contact Danny Yanesh
Email danny@certmedical.com
Telephone 800 442-3542
Fax number 800 760-7004


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HMMMM....

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Job Details
Pennsylvania Podiatrist S12076 south central, Pennsylvania, United States

Job Description
Tremendous opportunity for Podiatrist in south central Pennsylvania, only two hours from Pittsburgh and 30 minutes from Penn State University. Join a premier group in a well-established practice. Monday - Friday, 8-5 with no call. Local hospital is 353 beds and service area is 250,000 population. Competitive salary with very generous benefit package including malpractice. BC, but will consider fresh BE. There are multiple offices and on site physical therapy. This growing practice is nestled in a beautiful mountain community with excellent schools, parks and recreational activities, perfect for young families. This area enjoys a very low crime rate with safety and security for your family, but is still within driving distance of large cities. Area is rich in cultural and historic activities, plus recreational opportunities abound. If you are interested in this opportunity, contact Sonny Salmon directly at 402-469-0098. To expedite this process, please forward your CV via email to sonny@actionmedicalsearch.com or fax at 413-778-1899. Visit www.actionmedicalsearch.com for more opportunities. This is not a visa opportunity. Please refer to Job# S12076

Job Requirements
Podiatrist

Profession : Physician
Specialty : Podiatrist
Job Type : Full Time
Job Shift : Not Applicable
Pay Range : open
Openings : 1
Listed : Jun-16-2004
Visa Accepted : No





Recruiter Name : Action Medical Search
Contact Name : Sonny Salmon
Contact Phone : 402-469-0098
Contact Fax : 413-778-1899
Date Confirmed Open : Jun-16-2004

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Hmmmm.....

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The Medical Banner Network
Physician Job Search: Podiatry Employment Opportunities in Texas
Texas Podiatry Job IndexGregson Managaement LLC: PODIATRIST POSITION IN SOUTH TEXAS
Texas Podiatry Job DetailsPODIATRIST POSITION IN SOUTH TEXAS: Gregson Managaement LLC
PODIATRIST POSITION IN SOUTH TEXAS!

Seeking Board Certified or Board Eligible Podiatrist for busy practice in South Texas. Need motivated individual with a firm desire to make a solid career. This area is located in a tropical area adjacent to South Padre Island, which has been rated as one of the best beaches to visit by Travel Channel. Climate is excellent and is minutes away from the Mexican Folkloric Border. Spanish language skills will be a bonus for this opportunity. Salary will start at $70,000.00.

Please fax your resume, any other information that you feel we should have, and a copy of your License to (956)542-1606 or E mail us at texasfootdoctor@hotmail.com or raqsil@hotmail.com. J1 and H1 candidates will be considered. This is not an opportunity for search firm recruiters.
Inquire about this job >>
Job ID 44626
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HMMM.....

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Physician Job Search: Podiatry Employment Opportunities in California
California Podiatry Job IndexMDRecruiter.com, Inc.: Ask for details
California Podiatry Job DetailsAsk for details: MDRecruiter.com, Inc.
Excellent opportunities for Podiatrist. Located just 45 miles from Sacramento California Life style at its best, Short Commute to Sacramento or to the Ski Slopes and Resorts at Lake Tahoe. Enjoy the life of country Gentry, while still having the amenities of the city. Live in the great climate and clean air of this lovely river community. Affordable housing and great schools within a short commute to Major Metro city. Join an 80+-physician group associated with Northern California's premier healthcare network. Practice opportunity. California licensure Preferred; excellent clinical skills needed Designated Rural Health Site; 1:3 call. Service area 140K Salary $125,000 first year, $5,000 sign-on Bonus, plus a $5,000 first year annual bonus. Group will cover office overhead, marketing, malpractice, and all business aspects Shareholder after first year. Plus competitive benefits packet that includes health and Dental, up to$5,000 relocation fee, $5,000 sign-on Bonus, plus a $5,000 first year annual bonus. HAS NO MANAGED CARE CONTRACTS

David Steward
(909) 941-4807
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MDRecruiter.com, Inc. >> Job ID 56573
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Wisdom 2

by WWJD (no login)

I really appreciate all the feedback I have received.

Good luck to all of U

God Bless

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Law about treating family?

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Is there a law that states a doctor is unable to treat family members, ect.?

Thanks

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Don't work on family members

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Is there a law that prohibits a doctor from working on family members?

No, not a law, at least from my knowledge. But, there are regulations in many states.

One should NEVER write for any prescriptions for family members. Not Abs
or NSAIDS. And Never write for any pain meds for family members. At least if you still want to have your DEA License and Podiatry License.

Never Rx meds for oneself. Never.

If the reader has questions, just email our lawyers at Legal@PeerReview.org

The Center for Peer Review Justice, Inc

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Treating family

by DJF (no login)

I doubt there is such a law but many professionals avoid treating friends and family - although I would put money on the fact that many others do treat friends / family. It is difficult to remain objective with people you are close to, but also what if something should go wrong with your treatment?

Also -topics not to be discussed with patients: sex, politics, religion

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barry students

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Could a student from Barry University please contact me, my email address is kndavison@msn.com. Thanks!!

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The truth about podiatry

by SM, DPM (no login)

If podiatry is such a great profession and is a true part of mainstream medicine than why is there so much controversy about it. Talk to Rich Wilner, Mike Rosenblatt, Brian Gale, or Jeff Davids about what we call podiatry.

Why has the subject of podiatry been reviewed by 20/20? Why do the schools have recruiters? The US armed forces is a volunteer force and they have recruiters ... I guess that podiatry is a sign up profession for all who are able to pay the hundreds of thousands. Why wont the schools comment on any of the truth which the public is being subjected to? Why are schools cutting deals with junior colleges? Why did the southern school have to join up with a smaller local school? Why are insurance panels closed to DPMs?

This is a small list of some of the facts about podiatry. Why would one enter into a profession with such a questionable future?

I will never understand and neither will they until they feel the downfalls first hand.

SM, DPM
Podiatrist

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Flawed reasoning as always...

by Anonymous (no login)

1) You mentioned 4 podiatrists. I know more than that that are doing very well.
2) Who cares what 20/20 says? I saw that orthopods did surgery on the wrong limb. Are they a hoax, too? What authority does 20/20 have?
3) Schools have recruiters because of doom and gloomers like you.
4) The US Armed force is NOT a volunteer force. You get PAID.
5) Insurance companies are in the business of making MONEY. If they don't think you can help them make money then you ruin it for the rest of the DPM's.
6) Why don't you ask schools to talk about the "real deal"?

If you feel so negative about podiatry then why not do something about it? I notice that you are still in practice, according to the APMA (yes, I know who you are). If it's so bad then why don't you leave and "expose" podiatry for what you say it is and help us out instead of making such negative comments? Or is it not really that bad? You're a voting member of the APMA -- if it's so bad then vote us out of history.

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Perhaps you should look more into the meaning...

by SM, DPM (no login)

Those 4 podiatrists have been monumental in podiatry. It is quite obvious that you are a wannabe pod or a undergrad student. This profession will eat you alive. Read more into Brian Gale, Mike Rosenblatt, Rich Wilner, or Jeff Davids ... guys who have been there and now have the scars.

Think.

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Truths

by John G. (no login)

Junior colleges affliations yes,
not part of the armed forces medical corp like dentists yes
poor quality/caliber students yes
ABC 20/20 podiatry investigations yes, remember the line, Do pods go to medical school. response: "No". what did organized pod do --nothing, they are famous for doing nothing.
3rd or 4th choice yes
very few if any loan repayment plans yes
students and prospective hood winked yes

ACCPM sites with all those high quality residencies???
The is mediocrity at all levels, many programs does not equal quality.

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Re: Truths

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not part of the armed forces medical corp like dentists yes

May want to check your information. Branches vary by service, so Air Force, Navy and Army DPMs belong to different braches.

Most are not part of the "Medical Corps", but are in Medical Service Corps, etc. Then again, the dentists are not in the Medical Corps either. They are in the Dental Corps. And there are a lot more dentists than there are Podiatrists.

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Re: Truths

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One of my best friends is a recently-graduated podiatrist that does surgery in our country's armed forces. I don't know if he's part of the set of services that you are talking about but he takes care of real soldiers with real problems and does podiatric surgery (without any MD assistants except for the anesthiologist). The patients are real, the medical pathologies are real, the surgeries are real, the complications are real. The money is real, too.

He loves what he does and is privleged to do it and couldn't give a rats-butt what most of the dissenting people in here peddle.

It's alright to have an ego but if your ego is so deflated because you have a DPM then go get your MD and be happy and let us carry on the fight. No one is stopping you from achieving what you want to. If it's not being a DPM then for the love of god, do something that does make you happy and earns you the money and respect you so desire.

Thanks for listening.

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Re: Truths

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Good point, I agree with that.





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Re: The truth about podiatry

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The truth about podiatry
by SM, DPM (no login)

podiatry is s a great profession and is a true part of mainstream medicine


SM, DPM
Podiatrist

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Don't be like me

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To all pre-meds considering podiatry:
Nobody goes to podiatry school as a first choice unless they have nowhere else to go. I am a shining example of this. My MCAT scores where terrible and my GPA sucked. Although 99.9% of all podiatrists live in denial telling the world that it was there only choice, they are quite frankly 99.9% full of ****.Even after you graduate pod school you will encounter all of the other podiatrists who treat eachother like garbage because they are looking at their own mistakes in the proverbial mirror. When I went to school I just didn't get the scores and I had to settle for pot luck. If your scores are high, then please add a little common sense to you strong academic record and get a real medical life = MD.

Sincerely,

Don't be like me D.P.M.

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To all prospective students

by SM, DPM (no login)

To all of the prospective students,
To be called "doctor" isnt always what you may think, especially in podiatry. This is a BUSINESS of lies and deception. Schools will post on every forum and twist every true story about the profession. There are several lies about podiatry and they will suck you in. This profession is in trouble and has been for the last 15 years. If you can not make it into dentistry or MD/DO school than stay away from all other imitations (like podiatry). Podiatry will hurt you and you will not make more that they say. You will average less than $70,000 per year. Keep your eyes open.

SM, DPM

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Re: To all prospective students

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To all prospective students
by DPM (no login)

To all of the prospective students,
To be called "doctor" isnt always what you may think, especially in podiatry. This is not a BUSINESS of lies and deception. There are several good things about podiatry and they will suck you in. This profession is not in trouble and has not been for the last 15 years. If you can not make it into dentistry or podiatry school than stay away from all other imitations . Podiatry is good for you and you will make more that they say. You will average more than $70,000 per year. Keep your eyes open.

DPM


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