Yeah, I saw this on the telly news last night. It sounds promising, but......
You have to be a bit sceptical about all these supposed miracle breakthroughs, there's been so many during my lifetime and none have really delivered much, if anything, of significance.
This one claims to have grown hair "by combining stem cells with a secret compound". I vividly remember a similar "secret formula" being touted in Melbourne in the mid 1970s - the infamous "Ma' Evans" Hair Re-grower Potion - yours for $25 a bottle (a lot of money back then) complete with a picture of a sweet-faced old lady (Ma') on the label.
The story was Ma' was from a farm in the country where her son had re-grown hair after wiping his hands which were covered in cow manure, mixed with a "secret rural ingredient", over his bald head.
Incredibly, this got national exposure in the Aussie media - with Ma' appearing in the press and on the telly - and thousands of desperate guys bought bottles of the stuff.
Eventually it was exposed as a major sham, the bottles contained nothing more than lolly-water, and Ma' and her greatly enriched cohorts in crime had long vanished.
January 26th, 2008, Stony Brook, NY - Researchers from the State University
of New York at Stony Brook, in conjunction with Johnson and Johnson, have announced today what is being hailed as the first cure to male pattern baldness. "We think we have the magic bullet", claimed Richard Orentriech, Ph.D. from the university's dept. of Biochemistry.
The cure, according to Orentriech, is a naturally occuring hormone called YH-1.
"What YH-1 does is act as an equal and opposite reaction to DHT affected follicle
sites", claimed Orentriech. "Instead of DHT depletion, YH-1 acts in the opposite
way. It's like pushing out the petals of a rose, the follicle does not die".
In a trial of 30 follically challenged males over 40, YH-1 was shown to be over
80% effective in reversing male patten baldness and giving patients a thick head of
hair. According to Orentriech, more trials are expected this year before J&J will
seek FDA approval for the drug.
you are absolutely correct Gel this has a chance to become the real deal as long as some big company dosen`t come forward and offer a large sum of money to bury it!
Atlantaguy where did u find theis information at...
January 26th, 2008, Stony Brook, NY - Researchers from the State University
of New York at Stony Brook, in conjunction with Johnson and Johnson, have announced today what is being hailed as the first cure to male pattern baldness. "We think we have the magic bullet", claimed Richard Orentriech, Ph.D. from the university's dept. of Biochemistry.
The cure, according to Orentriech, is a naturally occuring hormone called YH-1.
"What YH-1 does is act as an equal and opposite reaction to DHT affected follicle
sites", claimed Orentriech. "Instead of DHT depletion, YH-1 acts in the opposite
way. It's like pushing out the petals of a rose, the follicle does not die".
In a trial of 30 follically challenged males over 40, YH-1 was shown to be over
80% effective in reversing male patten baldness and giving patients a thick head of
hair. According to Orentriech, more trials are expected this year before J&J will
seek FDA approval for the drug.
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Re: possible cure for baldness
February 1 2008, 10:44 PM
There will be a cure for baldness! But it won't be readily available anytime soon! If we're putting a time frame on it, You'd have to say it's at least 10 years away minimum! But even then what about those of us who didn't like our hair even before we started loosing it?
I started wearing at 23 and like most other wearers, I have always payed close attention to all the news related to hair discoveries and I have already seen the 'magic bullet' term used in the past and even the promised 'FDA approval' phrase.... and as usual, nothing came out of it.
It always seemed exciting and promising though...
I read not too long ago that the president of the United States (!!!) - Nixon - made a very important speech in the seventies and he claimed that cancer will be a thing of the past in about 20 or 25 years. (not sure about the number of years it could be much less) Today, cancer is even more widespread than ever before and the actual and near-term future statistics are now quite alarming.
So I still notice these kind of announcments because I'm interested but I certainly don't plan my life on it. My time is much better spent on planning my next units that I will be ordering, because that I can count on
Hans
This message has been edited by Hansmtl on Feb 1, 2008 11:13 PM
Like anything keep it real until it becomes reality, And the reality is it as not even been tried on one human being yet.
When this thing becomes a reality and can grow hair on a human cueball slaphead come back and tell me, Until then all this cure stuff is boring zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.
What number is the cure then 1,001 1,002 ? There has been loads of them and still no cure, You would think these so called educated people would keep stum until they were 100% sure, But no they blab out claim after claim get peoples hopes up only to dissapoint time after time, Thinking themselves wise when in fact the turn out to look foolish.
You have to understand, discovery and invention isnt really like it was in the past, when someone can go in his basement and experiment and come out with a new invention to cure cancer., It requires millions of dollars of investments from key sources. These key sources have their own interests and can dictate which direction research goes because they are funding it. Its not about the technology being there to cure hairloss, its about what direction the research and development is aimed for, and if curing something would be in those persons/firms interest. I believe they could theoretically have already cured hairloss and cancer right NOW if the right interested persons really wanted to.
Key sentence in that article is "1 billion a dollar a year industry". What if there is a cure, I doubt its gonna be a billion dollar industry anymore.
This message has been edited by Xeon005 on Feb 2, 2008 2:32 PM
The thing is they should keep stum until it is a reality, That way
if the are 100% sure they can then come out and say "We NOW HAVE a cure for baldness" Instead of this clinically trial nonesence saying "it looks promising" bloody big deal it LOOKS promising, So what if it does ? Cancer suffers want a cure, Leukimia suffers want a cure, Bald people want a cure, They have heard too much of this "Ooh it looks promising" statement, Its a statement that gives bloody false hope, Thats what it does.
This development will eventually lead to a treatment that will help some people with male pattern baldness. Some.
My crystal ball tells me it won't be ready until 2014 and will cost somewhere in the vicinity $10,000 for recipients--with no guarantees.
There may also be side effects, like chewing a hole in the baseboard, running from cats, fluffing small bits of hosehold items into a cozy pile in your bedroom and storing poops in your sock drawer.
All joking aside, some folks will no doubt derive postive benefit from the treatment, and it will hold much promise for a few. Others, most slapheads included, will need to depend on other methods of hair replacement.
A lot of legit hairloss research goes on under the radar due to the huge profits that could be made if they find something that would work well. Also, no one is going to talk unless they have a patent secured-- and "baldness cure" is one of the more difficult things to actually patent.
If these stories made it onto the larger media outlets (ie. NOT some guy's own private web site), there may be more to it than usual-- but I don't think we're going to be throwing out our pieces anytime soon, if ever.
Cures are less profitable then treatments, especially treatments that are ongoing. Just remember that.
btw. They are talking about hair regrowing from nothing, no left over follicle. So it should work on c ompletely bald men.
I have heard of doctors regrowing fingers and organs already, I really think the technology is there, and this lab stumbled across it with hair loss. But seriously, think about what would happen to the medical industry if you could take a shot of stem cells to cure 90 percent of illnesses from heart problems, to cancer to diabetes? What would happen to the pharm companies? I dont think u can fully stop technology but you can slow the progress down.
This message has been edited by Xeon005 on Feb 3, 2008 2:43 PM This message has been edited by Xeon005 on Feb 3, 2008 2:39 PM
Everyone has been selling the public watered down treatments... I'm sure there are better treatments, no cure-alls.. but much better treatments that are not put out by the FDA to protect the profits off all the snake oil companies that are selling hair loss treatments.. But, again.. we as the public will never see any of that 'good' stuff. Nothing to back up my opinion.. just pure speculation.
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Re: possible cure for baldness
February 5 2008, 11:29 PM
The article says within 3 years it could be available. LOL Like Viagra and a host of other "wonder drugs" (and Post-It notes) it was discovered while researching something else!
Betcha it will cost a fortune. Not many stem cells around and what about that "secret ingredient"
"When you walk with a limp, you notice how other's walk"
Those who would sell such a product understand vanity is not cheap. They know those with money to burn WILL burn a lot of it for a full head of naturally growing hair.
Look at the thousands some pay for surgical grafting!!! I'll bet it will cost a ton until they saturate the high end market. If its a topical or ingestible that has to be continued for life, It may drop in price to reach more a more affordable price point. If its a one time thing hold on to your wallet. For you single guys hookers will be cheaper LOL
"When you walk with a limp, you notice how other's walk"
My point exactly, People want cures and affordadble ones not something that "looks promising" might look promising to their wallets. Personally I wouldnt hold my breath on any cure in my lifetime.