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francis33 wrote:
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Riiiiight Fred...
and what's next?
I understand not smoking in buildings, but certain areas of bars should be ok... IT'S A BAR! have non -smoking areas,etc...
I am not a smoker ...shoots down that thought in your head...
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francis, this was not a "government" imposed restriction, as such.
A petition, several years ago, garned enough signatures to get the issue (as a proposition) on the general ballot and it passed HUGELY........ So, this was the "will of the people", not some "big brother" deciding what people can and can't do.
Now, I don't care if "you" (and francis, I'm not referring to you directly, as you don't smoke, so from here to the end of this post "you" refers to whomever the shoe fits), smoke and seriously endanger your health, as long as it doesn't endanger mine, 'nor cost me anything.
Smoking does both. Second hand smoke is incredibly dangerous, so smoking, in public places, does or can endanger my health.
It also cost me. My hard earned pennies that I pay for health insurance, deductibles, lab test, whatever, are driven, in a large part, by the massive amount of health care that can easily be prevented.
Yes, it's a bar, however how does that give "you" (notice again the 'you' in quotes) the right to endanger the health of those that have to serve you, even if they did allow smoking areas.
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In Philadelphia, these elected Idiots in City Council tried to ban "transfats" and "Foi-gras" in Philadelphia restaurants..
ARE YOU KIDDING ME???
Philadelphia is about to surpass Detroit in murders and these nimrods are trying to regulate our freedoms??
I understand that smoking is a thorny issue, but if you don't see the forest from the trees, you are ignorant..it won't stop there as Government will reach into all aspects of our lives... This is so typically democratic...republicans know that the strong individual working with others creates the ideal society, not a bunch of lazy lugs working the system at the expense of those who work hard everyday and are responsible in their breeding habits...
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Regarding transfats, yes, they're being banned in a lot of cities, and they should. As with smoking, they're a huge health problem.
Again, I don't care if "you" want to kill yourself, help create heart desease, etc., as long as it doesn't hurt me or cost me.
Again, as with smoking, transfats do both. Being in food that I eat, they damage my health and as with the health problems produced by smoking, the health problems produced by transfats drive up health care cost and what health care cost ME.
Many cities have and are in the process of banning transfat and may of the food companies (especially snacks) have stopped using transfats in their products.
The bottom line is that the food companies care about NOTHING except the bottom line, not about your or anyone else's health.
Left to themselves they would use whatever components are the least expensive in their products, all other considerations be damned.
The complaining about crime, etc., really is not related to this subject.
So, for me and my family, I applaud the banning of smoking (here at least) in all public places and the, eventual, banning of transfat in foods, or at least food served in restaurants and, eventually, purchased (such as chips, etc.).
Transfats are a very real and huge health risk.

Fred (StealthTJ)