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Extra lace cutting problem

April 1 2008 at 7:14 PM

  (Login Drmacmike)

Hi I had some problems with the front hair line on one of my units. I tried to trim it myself, mistake. Picture of problem enclosed.




Notice the area in red.

Hafa Adai!

 
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Xeon
(Login Xeon005)

Re: Extra lace cutting problem

April 1 2008, 7:19 PM 

you should try sending a larger photo if you want people to understand what your talking about.

I mean no disrespect at all. But do you ever think that maybe wearing hair isnt really for you? I mean I have heard you talking about this trimming the front lace for a while now, and i honestly feel that like if you cannot do this simple thing, then the rest might be too much of an ordeal for you as well.

Im not knocking u maybe u have a legitimate problem, maybe u shake? My cousins hands shakes a lot cause of nerve damage, no way hed be able to trim the lace, he would end up cutting half the unit off. Maybe u need to just find a good stylist or friend, wife, girl. someone who can help you through the problems.

I cant really see the picture, but im assuming u left too much lace? well give it to someone with a steady hand and make them trim a little more off,

sincerely

 
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(Login Drmacmike)

Re: Extra lace cutting problem

April 1 2008, 7:39 PM 

That is why I thought about going to Barber school just to learn how to cut the lace. My stylist trimmed the last one for me. I gave her an extra $20 to do so.
I don't know why not being able to trim the lace should keep me from wearing. It is like when I was in the Air Force I had never changed the oil in my car. I was stationed at Barksdale AFB and was told I could do my own oil change. I went to the Base Auto Hobby Shop and thought I did a good job. I came out of the base was at the second stop and go light. I fellow came up beside me I rolled the window down and he said Lt. I think you lost about 5 quarts at the last light there. I looked back and sure enough there was oil everywhere. I called a tow truck cost me $60.00 and the repair on the motor plus another oil change. I learned to leave it to the experts. I have paid to have my oil changed ever since. Now just because I can't repair my car or change the oil does that mean I quit driving. As silly as saying just because I have trouble getting this lace trimmed right I should wear a hair piece.
Same thing I have learned with this trimming the lace let the experts do the job. They went to school for it. Started out someone told me to leave 1/8 inch of lace so I tried to keep my tape measure to the lace while I cut the lace to make sure it was an 1/8 inch the first time I cut the tape measure trying to do the job.
The other stuff I have down fine. I just wished the syrups would come to us with the lace already trimmed like it is suppose to be.




Hafa Adai!


    
This message has been edited by Drmacmike on Apr 1, 2008 7:42 PM
This message has been edited by Drmacmike on Apr 1, 2008 7:39 PM


 
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DebbieS.
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Re: Extra lace cutting problem

April 1 2008, 7:52 PM 

It looks as though you cut it to close....and also looks like you cut some hair off as well.
holding a tape measure in one hand and trying to cut lace with the other?? is that what you are doing?
when one says to cut it 1/8th or 1/4 inch, they are ESTIMATING...there is absolutely no need to get out any tape measures, Mike. No wonder you are having trouble...you only have 2 hands!!
this is a simple way to do it.....
1.wet the hair with a spray bottle.
2. take a comb and stick the comb into the hair and allow the comb to hold the hair back and out of your way.
3. now you have both hands to cut the lace with. use small, sharp cuticle scissors and leave 3-6 holes IN FRONT of the hair.
move the comb to hold the hair out of your way as you go.
just go slowing and pay attention that no hair is in the way of the scissors.
I hope this helps....if you still don't get it, send your future units to me and ask that I trim the lace. when one sends hair to me for cut-in, I DO NOT automatically trim the lace because many like to do this themselves as they have a specific way of leaving it. (some like 1/4" and some 1/8th " etc), so just put in the instructions for me to trim the lace for you.

DebbieS.

 
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(Login Drmacmike)

Re: Extra lace cutting problem

April 1 2008, 8:17 PM 

What can be done to fix this one?

Hafa Adai!

 
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(Login MichiganBaldy)

Re: Extra lace cutting problem

April 1 2008, 8:29 PM 

I would get the front wet down real good and pluck a few hairs, slowly and carefully, in the area where the hairline seems to extend down past the rest a little then call it good.
It doesnt look really bad or anything, just needs the samllest little tweaking by plucking a few hairs.
Remember, each hair plucked is actually two hairs, if you get the whole hair by pulling the knot and everything out.

 
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JRob
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Re: Extra lace cutting problem

April 1 2008, 8:34 PM 

This is one of those things that comes pretty easy to people who have done detail work with their hands, but not so easily to other people.

I have worked with window tint and vinyl sign materials, so as strange as it may sound I think wearing comes easier for me since I am used to dealing with sticky stuff and cutting detail work with a knife and scissors.

Anyway, I don't go near the unit with scissors if I don't have to.

What I do is turn the unit upside down and use a comb to hold the hair away from the edge of the lace. It takes a little practice, but I hold the comb with my last two fingers, and grip the lace with my thumb and forefinger and put a little tension between the combed back hair and the lace.

Then I use an X-ACTO pointy tip knife (no scissors) to carefully cut the lace away from the hair, while I pull the cut lace away with my thumb and forefinger. I go a couple of inches, then move forward and repeat.

It sounds complicated, but it's not bad with a little practice. And doing it this way you run very little risk of cutting the hair, if you do it right.

This is one of the things I am eventually going to put on video cause I think once you see it up close you will see how easy it is.

 
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Suddzy
(Login Suddzy)

Re: Extra lace cutting problem

April 1 2008, 8:41 PM 

I don't wear hair (yet!) and if i saw that pic without the explanation and circle around it, I wouldn't think anything of it. Most natural hairlines aren't necessarily perfect and as long as the whole thing doesn't look fake as hell, nobody is going to even think of scrutinizing it or even focusing on it. Non-wearers can spot a bad rug a mile away. Only wearers (which probably make up a very, very small percentage of the people you see each day!) can spot small mistakes on an otherwise natural looking head. Remember, we are each our own harshest critic!!! If that's as good as my hairline could ever possibly look, I'll take it as opposed to my chrome dome! (and I don't look too bad bald!)

 
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Xeon
(Login Xeon005)

Re: Extra lace cutting problem

April 1 2008, 9:36 PM 

Mac listen to MB and debbies advice. U didnt ruin the piece. In fact it might help make it look even more real with some short uneven hairs in the front. Just do what MB said and u will be fine.

THe reason why I made that comment is not simply because you cannot cut your lace. I am not sure why you cannot do it, Whether you have vision problems, or a shaky hand or what not. Its that wearing hair and doing things yourself requires some common sense, a steady hand and decent eyes. And looking at some of your photos in the past as well as your constant complaining about the front lace. I was thinking that maybe you could use some extra help.

Hell ill cut your lace for 20 dollars sent it over to me lol.

If you do not have vision or shaky hand problems, then my guess is that your an overly intelligent person. My sister is like SUPER book smart, but cant do the simplest of tasks. even simpleton tasks of screwing in a light bulb is a challenge to her, but shes brilliant. I think its the price you pay for being too smart. lol

listen a tip i can give you. When your cuttin the lace. U have to use some common sense. First thing u do like debbie said comb the hair back so u dont cut the hairs off, DUH!. Next place down a black shirt or cloth or something on ur lap. that way theres a contrast of color. So when you look down at the lace, you can see it more clearly on a dark background. Its hard to cut lace when its invisible, so make it visible!

Good luck to you


and please understand i like to type lightheartedly and joke around. sometimes u have to laugh at your mistakes, im a big clutz myself.

regards

oh and ps.
That is why I thought about going to Barber school just to learn how to cut the lace.
i hope ur kiddin lol


    
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(Login Drmacmike)

Re: Extra lace cutting problem

April 1 2008, 9:50 PM 

Yes I was kidding about Barber school. My wife gets aggravated at me. I am one when someone tells me an 1/8 inch I am going to do my best to make sure it is 1/8 no more no less. I didn't know it was an estimate. It is like a lot of things I do specific instructions are given that I have to follow exact. For example, when I wrote my Dissertation I was told to use the APA writing style very specific on margins, type style, and spacing. As well as how you handle footnotes, endnotes and the bibliography. It was told it had to be from 120-150 pages. So I knew I could be 125 pages and be ok. If I had been told 150 pages I would have had to add until I got it to 150 pages. Now that is the type of world I operate in. So when I hear 1/8 or even 1/8 to a 1/4 inch I am going to do my best to make sure it is at least 1/8 and not over a 1/4 inch even by an 1/8 over. When I was an Engineer we were given exact specs as well. So hope you understand.
Sorry for being so difficult to get through too. I will not post about it any more.

Hafa Adai!

 
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DebbieS.
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Re: Extra lace cutting problem

April 1 2008, 9:59 PM 

It's just a difference in personalities. I NEVER measure anything when cooking. I throw in the ingredients and it always comes out great!!! My sister-in-law has been making the same lasagna for over 20 years and still has to get out the recipe card!! it baffles me that she can't put together the lasagna without the specific written instructions in front of her.....but I understand it is just the way people are. if we were all the same, think how boring life would be.
DebbieS.

 
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Meandean
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Re: Extra lace cutting problem

April 1 2008, 10:20 PM 

Take a unit that fits you perfect.Turn it upside down and make a clear templete.
Use this as a guide to remove extra lace on a new unit.Take your time and its
done.

 
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Xeon
(Login Xeon005)

Re: Extra lace cutting problem

April 1 2008, 10:53 PM 

Hey i rather be able to understand engineering then be able to cut a piece of lace. Ill trade with you if you want haha.

 
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DENNIS
(Login dennydimwit)

CUTTING LACE ON NEW UNIT

April 2 2008, 3:16 PM 

WHEN I GET UNIT BACK FROM DEBBIE (great cut in as usual)
SINCE I JUST USE NRT ALL OVER
I APPLY TAPE ON UNIT FRONT ( be sure to use the right shape)AND SIDES
I USE A EYE LOOP TO GET IT AS CLOSE TOO THE EDGE AS POSSIBLE THEN I CUT ALONG THE TAPE EDGE
OFF COURSE BEING CAREFUL NOT TO CUT THE HAIR
NEXT TIME EVERYTHING MATCHES UP PERFECT duh
D

 
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