My stylist taught me about the joys of seamrolling. I.e., to get a really great pressing of your lace into your glue or tape, use a seam roller.
Note: This is only good for your side and back hair, unless you do comb down or spike forward. It's not good for the front hairline if you comb back, as it will make your hair want to go forward.
With good glue and a seam roller, for the first time I finally believed that it is possible to make an attachment that is undetectable to to the touch.
-Darius
P.S. Does anyone know where to get OnRite Perma Rite #15 glue? This is the glue my stylist uses, but from her it costs $30 for a 1.3 oz bottle. If it continues to hold well, I'll want to buy it by the gallon. (www.onrite.com sells only to "professionals").
So far, in the front the glue has held fine for a week plus one day with no sign of any problems, with washing my hair every day. It did lift on one side yesterday (that would be exactly a week), but I just fixed that today with a touch up, which was pretty easy, as it hadn't left any mess in the lace and the goop that was on my head cleaned up reasonable well with 99%.
The glue you are looking for is often referred to in hair replacement circles as "Eurobond". For years, it was the main frontal hairline glue used by HCM. Hairdirect.com, sells a their version for pretty cheap under the name "white bonding adhesive". The real stuff is available from a canadian company, but is is pretty expensive. Of the glues most of you know, I would say it is most similar to i-glue.
This might be an even "newer and better" Eurobond, as my stylist said it is relatively new and it is #15, while the link you posted was for #11.
In any case, this #15 is significantly better than my three-year-old evaporation-concentrated iGlue, which lasted a week, but was kind of gummy near the end. No gumminess with this #15 yet after more than 9 days.
And it's worlds better than new iGlue, which only lasted a day for me. My stylist said that all her clients are raving about how much they love this new glue. I guess I'm joining the crowd.
a good idea for a glue .. someone should make a glue that dissolves with a solution. perhaps alcohol or some other compound that actually has a chemical reaction with the glue. This way it dissolves and clean up would be simple.
I've gotten pretty decent with tape, but I still find it hard to get the tape all up to the very edge of the edge. (Maybe eventually with more practice.) I can still feel the edge if I look for it. I don't know if anyone else would find it, especially if I continue to use hard gel, since the gel has it's own edginess to it, but still I can find it if I try.
With a good glue, like this Perma Rite #15, or my evaporated iGlue, I have a hard time finding the edge myself, even knowing exactly where it is, as long as I press it down hard with the seam roller.
Another advantage to glue that I've noticed, is that if the side or back lifts, I can clean it a bit with 99% and put another layer of glue down, use the seam roller again, and it's as good as new. With tape, the same thing sometimes happens, but then hair gets folded under, and the tape rebonds on it's own, but not as well, and if I want to redo that edge, it seems to be a difficult task because it's hard to get the hair off the tape, and I can't remove the tape to apply new tape, and even if I could remove it, I can't splice in a new piece of tape of exactly the right size.
I tried putting in one of those little tape tab things when this happened once, but then that only ended up holding for a day.
Perhaps next time, I'll try unsticking the hair with 99%, and cleaning things a bit with 99%, and then using glue, rather than tape for the touch-up.
"I've gotten pretty decent with tape, but I still find it hard to get the tape all up to the very edge of the edge. (Maybe eventually with more practice.) I can still feel the edge if I look for it"
Well put the tape on the piece and let it overlap the edge by about 1/64" to 1/32" then you will have all the edge covered and then you wont feel the edge as you have pressed both the lace and the overlapped tape firmly to your scalp.
Gee Darius, you got some of us curious with this Potion #15 magic glue a yours. If a fellow Toplacer is willing to pay your hairdresser's price, how does one get a hold of a tube to try it then? And what sorta seam roller works for ya; where do you get such a thing anyway? Thanks for sharing Darius.
Gee Darius, you got some of us curious with this Potion #15 magic glue a yours. If a fellow Toplacer is willing to pay your hairdresser's price, how does one get a hold of a tube to try it then?
Well, wait for my full report on how cleanup is. I should do that on Sunday.
My stylist will probably sell it via mail-order. I'll ask. She certainly will mail products to her in-store customers.
And what sorta seam roller works for ya; where do you get such a thing anyway?
They only cost a couple bucks and you get them at a hardware store or on Amazon. They're for pressing on wallpaper seams while applying wallpaper.
Don't purchase the kind for linoleum flooring -- those ones are way too big. You need the wallpaper kind. The roller part is about as big as a large spool of thread.
Debbie provides a valuable service to this forum. She provides expert advice and excellent service. We need to return the favor and buy supplies from her.
Regards,
John
I do not think that Debbie needs any hype. Most at TL buy from her, because of her excellent service. It does not mean that one does not also buy elsewhere. E.g. Basebond was originally available from Vocalist Bob at "http://www.hatsoffhair.com/", but I would guess that most here now get it from Debbie.
Debbie provides a valuable service to this forum. She provides expert advice and excellent service. We need to return the favor and buy supplies from her.
Very true. I don't think that Debbie sells seam rollers. Nor does she sell Perma Rite #15. I think that everyone needs to buy the tape and/or glue that works best for them. To do otherwise would be nuts, and counter to the entire "Toplace philosophy".
If Debbie ends up selling Perma Rite #15, and that's the glue that ends up working best for me (as it seems to be at the moment, from what I can tell), then I'd certainly buy it from her.
. I feel discussing different types of glues, tapes and similar products is an essential part of this forum. Plus if there is anything really great on the market, I rather Debbie know about it and try to get her hands on it herself.
