i dont understand but after i started wearing people began to treat me differently they treat me nicely and as if im special but before (with my thin hair) they look at me like i dont even exsit?! why ? i didnt know that hair is sooo important to people until i started wearing..what a shallow society!

what a shallow society!

Welcome to planet Earth, where we're all slaves to our genes and hormones.

But I'm betting that you too treat a beautiful woman (or guy if you're gay) differently than you treat one who's butt ugly.

- Darius

first of all im NOT gay !(no offense)
but what im trying to say that we treat people nicely when they look good...i dont know why

but what im trying to say that we treat people nicely when they look good...i dont know why

Agreed. I think it's just human nature. People generally prefer beautiful fields of wildflowers over stinky bogs, and Van Gogh paintings over mine. Human perception of beauty is built into our very being, and effects nearly everything we do and think.

It would be nice if we treated everyone the same, no matter what they looked like, but if we did, we'd be robots, rather than humans. And that probably wouldn't be so nice.

In any case, I'm sure everyone here must agree that looks are important, or they wouldn't bother with the trouble and expense of any of this.

- Darius

This whole discussion reminds me of the Simpsons episode where Homer manages to get Dimoxinil through his health insurance, and he suddenly sprouts a full head of hair. With all this hair, he is suddenly perceived to be a young go-getter and is promoted to be an executive. Eventually the insurance company discovers the fraud and cancels his Dimonxinil prescription. All his hair suddenly falls out in his sleep, and when he goes to his next executive meeting, no one takes him seriously because he's bald. So he's demoted back to his old position.

Although a bit farcical, this is actually a play on real scientific studies that have shown that men with full heads of hair are more well-liked and, on average, are more successful than people who are bald. E.g., of the top 14 richest men, none are bald.

The same thing is also true for height, but apparently even more so.

- Darius

In my experience there is some sort of unconscience human nature thing there you've spotted Hantool. I used to deliver office supplies during the day. It was like clockwork: with a fresh haircut I'd have strangers talking to me much more on elevators etc. I noticed this before having any hairloss issues so I imagine it could be magnified for someone going to a topper or whatever.

god i always like ur comments Darius

Welcome to the real world...

I experienced the same thing, and it is a sobering experience.
Especially when you go the other way, like when I ditched the rug. (Being student and wearing hair too much hassle for me.)

This issue you mention is most noticeable with younger persons, esp. students, as they don't live in a social world that automatically reward good work ethics, talent and responsibility. It's a lot about image, looks, who's cool and not, sizing eachother up and down, who's in the cool gang and so on. (That goes on all through life to some extent, but is less noticeable when you're an "adult", as you've pretty much have a set social circle/standing and work environment.)
Myself experiencing going from great (toplace) hair to not-so-great real hair, made that very obvious.
The change was very disillusioning at times, because no matter how you act - you just meet an inpenetrable social wall sometimes that wouldn't be there with a full head of hair.

Getting hair, suddenly chicks that couldn't be bothered into having a real conversation before, suddenly was very interested, positive and attentive. Going back to little hair was basically going back again from "Hiiiii, nice to meet you again, coooool" to "whatever...".
Of course, there are plenty of folks out there that are much less shallow - it's easy to focus on the shallow ones.

Without hair you have to rely more on sheer force of personality, and be more noticeable. If someone acts superior, f*ck 'em. One thing I've learned, is stop trying to "win over" persons that ignore you. You'll most likely get nowhere, and they'll only think of you as being even lower beneath their standards. I'd much rather be hanging around with positive and engaging individuals and real friends.
I mean, deal with the cards you've been given and do the best you can. ...or get a wig.

hantoooool (wow 5 "o" lol):

When I used to work in a big corporation and as I was climbing up the corporate ladder I noticed this phenomenon even between men and it has nothing to do with sexual orientation.

It's part of human nature and we better accept it by dealing with it the best we can because it's extremely well entrenched in the human psyche and subconscious.

In life in general, you can notice that good or best looking people have better chances to get ahead and have a better shot at success.

It's life and this is no problem when we learn to deal with it positively.

Most of us on this forum are swimming along the right trend though because we strive to look better with hair which is already a big plus hehe

Hans

I have been wearing for 2 weeks now and people look at me differently without my hat. I am also short at about 5,7 so looking the best I can levels the playing field alot. Women can see past my height if they are phsically attracted to me. When I realized that there were women who are attracted to me I bought the best clothes clothes I could afford,worked out,etc.

I figured out that taking care of my appearance years ago levels out the playing field with women alot. Women do not date short guys period. I got around that because if they are really attracted to me my height is not an issue.

I learned I could survive with the rest of you tall guys by
looking good for the ladies years ago. Without people ever being shallow I would never have learned I could compete with
Mr. 6 ft and overcome my height. Looks keep me in the game
because the reality is I would have zero chance.

xbaddboy

Spike you hair up a bit xbaddboy to gain another half an inch hehe


Hans

lol, that's what i do, i'm only 5'6 and when i turn my toplace into a semi-faux hawk i'm a good 5'61/2 to 5'7.

[i]Spike you hair up a bit xbaddboy to gain another half an inch hehe[/i]

You laugh, but it's true, every little bit helps...

And speaking of this subject.....why do you think that fake boobs and plastic surgery is such big business? Because subconsciously EVERYONE knows that the better you look, the better your chances in life.

Haha guys, of course it helps and it's the "gain" in height (no matter how small) that gives a new sense of confidence.

I'm 5'11" and even I used to do this more often when I was more into the bar scene.


Hans

You make a good point xbaddboy about people looking differently at you without your hat. I'm assuming you mean 'cap' but I could be wrong? Chicks don't dig on the baseball caps. You show no individuality or sense of style with a baseball cap. You look like Joe Average - indistinguishable from the masses of guys who don't care about their appearance. I've been wearing a cap for 3 months everyday to ease the transition to my partial and I can't wait to start wearing.

When I was referring to my cap I meant baseball cap. I wore
one to work and a different one in public so some people probably thought I was bald when I was just covering a high forehead. 2 weeks ago when I got my piece is the 1st time most people saw me without a hat ever. I got alot of looks from everyone and most did not recognize who I was.

If I spike my hair up 3" that will now make me 5,10. I will try this and see if I feel closer to 6 ft. hehe

xbaddboy

heh heh ... we don't have any budding
psychology majors on here ... do we ??

There's been numerous huge studies published
over the years showing how attractive people
land the best jobs etc ...

Subconsciously ... they just make an impression
of being overall healthier .. smarter ... more
desireable

I remember when I was young ... the airlines
(at a time they could get away with it)
were very discriminating in their hires ...
especially with guys ... They wanted that
top dog air force look .. slick ... ....

I was told flat out years ago ... when being
considered for a top executive position with
UPS ... unless I got rid of the ponytail
.. not a chance in hell they would hire you ...

remember just a few years ago ... before it
was in favor ... if you shaved your head ..
you were prejudged to be a skinhead ...
neo nazi .. or a moonie ...

I notice in NYC .. on those rare days when I
look like the Gods had shone some mercy on me ...
people glancing over ...

and on those other days ..kamikazi bicycle
messengers aiming dead center
like they could blast through me ...

Watch people's eyes when they talk to you ...
people are so in a trance most of their lives ..
if your piece is on crooked ...it's like their
eyes are riveted to it ... I think it's time
you check in the mirror to see if the little
fella was positioned backwards or not

Just human nature ... but if you are very
self critical .. you'll be paying attention
to it more than someone who is not ..

Honestly, I would not read too much into this. I suspect that personal confidence has as much to do with reactions as hair does. Unfortunately you can have great hair and be ugly. Even otherwise nice looking guys with good natural hair can look unattractive with a bad style, clothing, attitude etc. Some guys with the bald/shaven look can be "chick magnets."

My Turn. Ruling out the studies that attractive people land higher pay for similar jobs, think about this. You have a different perception of yourself now. You were insecure and now you are self assured. You walk with your head up and are probably more approachable than you were when you thought that you were an inferior "balding male" invisible to attractive women. Believe me, what you are experiencing is your personality reflecting in others. What you think is originating in the mind of others others is actually what you are sending to them initially.

Take care,

Zappa - student of Psychology & Philosophy (70's era)