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dying

September 5 2008 at 12:19 PM
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accidentally dyed my lace base dark brown - is there anyway to remove the color along the hairline? Including knots?

 
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MM
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Re: dying

September 6 2008, 2:53 AM 

Bleaching the lace as you would knots will lighten it. My stylist was a little sloppy with the dye thinking we had the lace protected with vaseline. I used Feria bleach and lightened it to an acceptable level. Very happy with the results.

 
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Patrick
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Re: dying

September 9 2008, 12:58 AM 

Hi guys,

I just got my first TL today. Im actually impressed with the specs, dead on I think. But the color is off. I have never used hair dye before but could I use it to get it the right color? I sent in samples but the TL is too auburn looking, and MY hair is more blonish brown. Haha. I might just place another order and send in longer hair samples from the top and too. Sorry guys, might seem like a crazy question. Thanks anyway.

Patrick


    
This message has been edited by Patrick128 on Sep 9, 2008 3:15 PM


 
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Darius
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Re: dying

September 9 2008, 1:03 AM 

(1) If the hair color of the unit matches your side hair perfectly, I'm not sure why you would want to change its color, even if your natural hair on top was of a slightly different color.

(2) It's apparently very difficult to lighten the hair on a unit. If in doubt, order a lighter shade and then dye the unit darker.

- Darius

 
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Patrick128
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Re: dying

September 9 2008, 2:38 AM 

Well, to look at it closer, it ALMOST matches the samples I sent in, just off a little bit. The TL is more of a red-brown, and my hair is more of a blonde-brown. How can I get it to match? I never used dye in my life, haha. What kind should I get?
My hair has gotten a bit longet since then so Ill send longer samples in for my next order soon. Maybe the blonde will show through more and blend better. Or Ill just wait for the next one to come in. Better luck next time! HAHA



Patrick


    
This message has been edited by Patrick128 on Sep 9, 2008 3:02 AM


 
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Darius
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Re: dying

September 9 2008, 3:47 AM 

I could be wrong, but I get the impression that you can never get the colors to match perfectly unless you dye both the unit and your hair using the same dye. I wrote a dying FAQ here:

http://groups.google.com/group/st30/web/dyeing

I've never dyed a unit myself, though. You have to be careful.

Alternatively, you can try to match your hair to the unit if the unit is darker. (That's the case with me, as I dye the grey out of my natural hair anyway.) If you buy professional hair dyes, you can experiment with mixing colors, until you get an ideal match. It'll take a few months though of experimentation, you typically wait a month to re-dye your natural hair.

For drug-store hair dye, you just follow the instructions on the box in order to dye your own hair. For the professional hair dye, you do the same thing as you would with the box hair dye, only it doesn't come with instructions, and you buy the "color" and the "developer" separately. You want developer with "20 lift". You also buy a little plastic bowl for mixing the hair dye in. You get this stuff at Sally, or another "beauty supply" place.


- Darius

 
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Patrick128
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Re: dying

September 9 2008, 4:12 AM 

I really thought I would get it and not have to dye it. Form what I have read here, most of the guys dont have to. Even if I tried to dye MY hair to match the TL, it would look TOO strange on me cause the TL is too auburn looking. No way I will be able to get away with this thing on me! Haha. Ill just send it back and try again, with even more hair samples. Its gotten even longer so maybe it will help them match it better next time. Waited this long, whats two more months till the next one comes in? Thank god for toppiks huh? Or I thought about just getting a stock unit and pick the closest color number, should get here alot faster than a custom one.

 
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Shaun
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Re: dying

September 9 2008, 8:43 AM 

"I just got my first TL today. Im actually impressed with the specs, its actually perfect. Kinda. The hair samples I sent in were from of course the sides and back, and it matches, what seems like, perfectly. BUT ..."

So you got what you ordered.

Give the unit its first wash as residule dye sometimes comes out, then review the colour.

 
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Darius
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Re: dying

September 9 2008, 10:37 PM 

Or I thought about just getting a stock unit and pick the closest color number, should get here alot faster than a custom one.

If you get an all lace unit, you might was well go stock, if there are ones that are in stock that would match your hair color, and you have a stylist who knows how to cut them down to the right size.

All of my units have been cut down by my stylist as I ordered the wrong custom sizes. (This was not Toplace's, fault, at all.)

Also, for the best color match with a stock unit, you should probably order a lighter color than you need, and have a stylist dye it to match your hair, if you have a stylist.

- Darius

 
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YuleB
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Re: dying

September 11 2008, 1:41 AM 


MM did bleaching the lace after the sloppy hair dying stained it weaken your piece, shorten the lifespan of the piece, or cause the hair to fall out (shed) prematurely?

 
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YuleB
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Re: dying

September 11 2008, 1:43 AM 

Those of you who have used vaseline to protect your lace when dying the unit, how did you get the vaseline out?

 
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MM
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Re: dying

September 11 2008, 11:10 PM 

I didn't notice any shedding or negative effects after the bleaching YuleB.

I used Dawn on the base, trying to just wash the base only, quickly, and it cut the vaseline.

Debbie has a color block product, which I actually forgot I'd bought, so we used the vaseline. I'll bet her product works better but I haven't tried it yet.

 
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YuleB
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Re: dying

September 14 2008, 12:38 PM 

Thanks MM

 
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Re: dying

September 15 2008, 5:54 PM 

"I just got my first TL today. Im actually impressed with the specs, dead on I think. But the color is off. I have never used hair dye before but could I use it to get it the right color? I sent in samples but the TL is too auburn looking, and MY hair is more blonish brown. Haha. I might just place another order and send in longer hair samples from the top and too. Sorry guys, might seem like a crazy question. Thanks anyway.

Patrick"

There is a difference in browns, you can order "no red tones/all ash" which can help. But, I would say that often the color of the system hair once it's cut in and blended may work just fine. And, get some of the ADF Blender, it's a temporary coloring designed to mask red & orange tones. By applying it to both the piece and your real hair you can get a better blend.

I'm assuming when you say "first TL" and your other remarks that you have not worn before. Wash it a couple of times, get it cut in and if it still looks off try the ADF blender.


 
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Darius
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Re: dying

September 15 2008, 11:36 PM 

And, get some of the ADF Blender, it's a temporary coloring designed to mask red & orange tones. By applying it to both the piece and your real hair you can get a better blend.

Why not just use hair dye instead?

Or is the ADF stuff somehow easier to work with?

- Darius

 
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wesb
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Re: dying

September 16 2008, 12:52 PM 

Since the ADF is temporary it will wash out after a few shampoos, you can't hurt anything and it works well. I would not recommend a newbie to DIY coloring a hairpiece.

 
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Darius
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Re: dying

September 17 2008, 9:37 PM 

Can you apply the ADF in the shower, or do you need to your pin your unit to a styrohead and carefully paint on the ADF?

If the former, how do you avoid staining the lace and knots?

- Darius

 
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YuleB
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Re: dying

September 18 2008, 3:38 AM 

What does the ash option in hair actually do to the scale of the color.. does it soften it, darken it, lighten it?

 
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