I sent out samples of the other sealer and people found it a little difficult to apply, I tested both at the convention here yesterday and we found this one just has good if not better, It is very easy to apply and is only around $3 a bottle, You will find it in the craft section of Wal-Mart also details below :


Here are the details of it :



http://www.dritz.com/brands/showcase/details.php?ITEM_NUM=674

http://www.joann.com/joann/catalog.jsp;jsessionid=XJT41NDQ4WWCUP4SY5NFAFR50LD3KUPU?CATID=cat2660&PRODID=prd2992&_requestid=1113562






Regards BA.

Can this be used on top of Ultra Hold to seal the glue and make it a little less tacky? I work in a restaurant and we have to wear hats and after a few hours the hairline can get matted down and stuck to the softened glue.So I was wondering how this dries.

BA, Thanks again for always keeping an eye out for new products that make this hair wearing game so much easier for the rest of us!!!

So this product is used to keep SFS from fraying at the front edge? Is that the idea?

Also what is the other product?: "Ever thought to yourself "I wish I could bury the front lace actually into my skin" Yeah strange sounding I know but it would eliminate all problems with the front hairline if you could, Well I have found the next best thing, Its a product that when applied it drys just like human skin and seals any sticky glue and hides any lace, It can be used for both applying the piece to the scalp and over the front lace to make it dissapear, It is totally waterproof, Non toxic and works fantastic, Dont worry everyone I am not going to keep it a secret after the convention when people have seen it used by me, I will let you know were to get it from online and what stores you can purchase it from."

I'll try to seal the underside of my piece with that stuff, which should keep the knots from untying just by touching them. It could make my pieces last twice as long I think.

I just hope it's not too visible when it's dry and that it's not too difficult to apply.

Well yes it will stop the front lace from fraying but I posted the details of it so you could apply it on top of the lace after you have glued down the front lace to hide any edge that maybe visible.

The other product is called Tear Mender adhesive
You can find details here :

http://www.tearmender.com/ProductLine.htm



Regards BA.

So Ba... The Fray Check is for the hairline that you apply over the glue....or any lace that's not attached...What do you use to apply it with...your finger or stick?
And the other product is for fraying of the lace? Cheers

Dude on his way to Wal-Mart at lunchtime.

Thanks for posting buddy.

BA,

I have been waiting eagerly for this announcement as I deal with fraying in the front. Can you please describe what both products are used for and how to apply! please!

Thanks!

AS

Dude, I tried Walmart, no luck. Let me know if you found it.

i found the dritz fray check at wal-mart. identical bottle as in BA's picture, but the package had a different companies name on it. had to do a double take to see it. also, it was only $1.64 for the 3/4 oz bottle, not $3.

What isle is it in? How do I find it at the store.

Someone please use it and tell us what happens. I assume you apply it lightly over the lace to give that sealed look.

If you want to stop the swiss front from fraying use Debbie's knot sealer.

This product is just to hide hairline after it's glued to your melon.

Jo-Ann Fabric Stores ("http://www.joann.com/joann/store_locator/locator_main.jsp") has this stuff, too. They have locations in all U.S. states apart from WY and HI. Then one does not have to purchase from a non-American, anti-union company like WalMart.

As with all this stuff that one puts on your head and near your eyes one needs to keep safety in mind. The below from the company's web page ("http://www.dritz.com/askus/faq/faq_04.php"):

Is it toxic?
In dried form, Fray Check behaves like a plastic and is nontoxic. In liquid form, Fray Check is toxic. If the product is ingested, induce vomiting immediately and seek medical attention. If the product comes in contact with the eyes, flush the eyes with water for at least 15 minutes. If irritation occurs, consult a physician.

One can request an MSDS here - "http://www.dritz.com/askus/contact/index.php"

"They have locations in all U.S. states apart from WY and HI. Then one does not have to purchase from a non-American, anti-union company like WalMart."

What's funny is that 80%+ of what everyone buys is made in china anyway (INCLUDING your beloved hairpiece), but everyone is worried about the big bad evil Walmart. Do you have any idea what a hairpiece would cost if it were made in the states???

I absolutely HATE WalMart. But not because they are anti-union, it's because I have to wait a half hour to buy $18 worth of stuff.

The people who complain about Walmart, outsourcing, etc. are the same ones who complain about the prices of everything being so high.

You can't have it both ways.

I will try and explain the 2 products.

The fray check is a clear liquid and is applied ON TOP of the front edge of the lace AFTER you have applied the piece with glue or tape.

The other product Tear Mender adhesive is a white liquid that dries like a layer of skin, I have also used this in the same way as the fray check on top of the front edge of the lace and I have also applied it THINLY to the BOTTOM of the lace base to give a skin base kind of look like.

Like Maxx pointed out, Please use these products at your own discretion they are obviously not specifically made for hairpieces so care and attention should be used when using these or any other products.

Regards BA.

can european customers get those products from Debbie? Adding the due sales margin of course.

All,

UK customers can get this from the site below

http://www.craftsandquilts.net/fray-check-1663-p.asp

Kind Regards

Raj-UK

Can either of these products be removed when cleaning the piece?

I tried the new front sealer /blender on the front hairline and it removed the tacky feel and did help to blend in the front lace to the skin where the two meet. It has only been one day and one night, however it seems to be working to help with lifting and showing an even more natural hairline. I don't think that I would expect more than a day or so for the active user, however you use very little and if you need to use it, it is a very quick touch-up that dries fast. As it wears off,(from friction..helmet)it just acts like dry skin and does not get tacky. I used so little that this bottle should last a very long time.

I'll keep you posted as things progress.
Zap

"Can either of these products be removed when cleaning the piece?"

That's what I'd like to know-- how easy does it clean up? Most of the product info I've seen on the Dritz Fray Check calls it a "liquid plastic". Sounds like it would be tough to get out of the lace when you needed to. Has an alcohol base to it that evaporates leaving the dried product so it's not going to be easily water soluble.

BTW, a better link to the JoAnn's page for Fray Check is here:

http://www.joann.com/joann/catalog.jsp?CATID=cat2848&PRODID=prd2992&source=search

If if Fs up my perfect favorite piece because I cannot get the "liquid plastic" coating off-I will be furious!

If if Fs up my perfect favorite piece because I cannot get the "liquid plastic" coating off-I will be furious!

Well, if it ain't broke, you don't need to fix it, right?

Personally, I would only try experimenting with such things with units that are on their way out.

- Darius

Don't put it on 64 lace, it makes it too thick and detectable (underside)
I trided it on the side of my unit

You have to apply it THINLY Matt and I mean thin.

Regards BA.

I hear ya ba , I am experimrenting on th e front after I have it nailed down, I see some promise like you did. Its a plasitic blender that shows promise. Playin with it tonight.

Ok guys try this. After fully appling your pc, go back to the hairline and dab some of this stuff with your finger so half goes to the lace and half goes on to your skin. Keep experimenting til you see a good invisible blend. This stuff takes experimenting!

JRob,

Maybe I can get to a wig convention some day and we can discuss WalMart/China etc. I put a 'little' rant below for ya in answer to your points.

My main thing above was two-fold:
1. You can buy the sealer in 48 or the 50 U.S. states not using an exploiter like WalMart .
2. There are some questions regarding safety and toxicity.

BTW, I have not yet received the MSDS sheet although requested.

I will likely try the sealer, but I first want to check the MSDS sheet.


WARNING WARNING - - Rant on...

"What's funny is that 80%+ of what everyone buys is made in china [sic] anyway (INCLUDING your beloved hairpiece), but everyone is worried about the big bad evil Walmart. Do you have any idea what a hairpiece would cost if it were made in the states???"

80% of what I buy is not made in China. You made that 80% number up to make a point. Understood, but that is still simply not true. I lived for years w/o a wig, because they were expensive and if they becomes too expensive I would simply chuck wearing one.

I do not buy at WalMart, because they game the system and do not pay their fair share of taxes for the services they get.
I do not buy at WalMart, because of the Walton's politics.
(I do not like conservatism/fascism, because I am an American).
I do not buy at WalMart, because of their anti-union actions.
I do not buy at WalMart, because their 'cheap' prices end up costing more since WalMart receives so much welfare (a.k.a. subsidies) from U.S. and State government.
I do not buy at WalMart, because they do not give their workers decent benefits while the Waltons are billionaires.

"The people who complain about Walmart, outsourcing, etc. are the same ones who complain about the prices of everything being so high."

I do not complain about prices being high, I complain about cheap labor, here and abroad.
I complain about corporations (like WalMart) having anti-union stands and bribing politicians to allow them to legally union-bust and to legally price-dump via cheap outsourced labor.
High prices AND high wages are good for the middle class. I do not want to live in a third world Mexico-like country w/o unions, w/o a large middle class. Corporations like WalMart love third world countries to where they can outsource.

"You can't have it both ways."

You can have it both ways if you are a large corporation, like WalMart. You get welfare (subsidies) from the government and then outsource jobs anyway. If you do go bankrupt the government bails you out w/taxpayer money, although the top managers still keep their money (for failing). Recent examples, Bear Stearns, Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac, Airlines. These are ALL so-called private corporations (including Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac whom many [wrongly] believe are government corporations).

BA is a small businessman importing from China not a large corporation gaming the system. Fair trade is fine, one-sided only 'free' trade is not (unless you are the one [legally] exploiting it.

Rant off.

I must say, now I know what all of these hair pieces are covering and it appears to be fully functional brains housed in genuine thinking people. I don't ever want to see this site going into political wars, but I sure would love to know what chat rooms you guys hang out in. A lively discussion is good for the soul (that's assuming that we have one, but then again that's a different chat room all together). The new front sealer/blender is still holding after 2 days and 2 nights.

Zap

Thats it Matt, You need to apply a little to the edge of the lace and a little to the forehead so it covers any of the excess lace you may have left on and eliminates any kind of lace edge.

Regards BA.

is this the same product u were talking about that u said drys like a layer of skin ?

This dries more like a layer of skin



But the other one is easier to apply, Try the other one Fray Check first

Regards BA.

Try this one first its cheap at around $3 per bottle, No need for the other if you like this one :



Regards BA.

i "blog" on youtube..... unfortunatly, with youtube, you get a lot of the 18 and stupid crowd.. along with the "i am an idiot, and will prove it with my posts" crowd.... :P

Here is some info that I got from the MSDS sheet from the company for Fray Check. They will send you the complete one via fax if requested.

Maxx
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"Date of last revision: 15 May 1996.

Clear, flammable liquid with alcohol odor.
Irritating to eyes and respiratory tract.
Prolong or repeated skin contact can cause drying and brittleness.
Avoid breathing vapor, avoid contact with eyes, skin and clothing.
High vapor concentrations may cause a burning sensation in the nose and throat.
None of the components in this material are listed by IARC, NTP, OSHA or ACGIH as a carcinogen.

Product is flammable. Flash point is 57 degrees F. 14 degrees C.
Conditions to avoid: heat, sparks, flame."

Fray block and fray check is pretty much the same thing. I wear lace wigs and have been wearing them for some years now.

I use June Taylor fray block I bought it at Joanne fabrics
http://www.sewingmachinesplus.com/jt-377.php heres a link so you can see how it looks. Its pretty much the same as fray check but a few dollars more. Okay this is what I do with both Fray check and block.

I run it under hot water for for about 3 minutes then I squirt into a bowl or some sort of dish you only need a bit.

Also buy a small paint brush to apply the block/check with. I actually apply it before I cut my lace and let it dry for a few minutes. Of course this is when I buy a new lace wig. If its older just apply to the perimiter and let it dry.

The only way it turns white is if you use to much all you have to do is dip your finger or q-tip in 91 or 99% alch and rub it over that part. Its just that easy. HTH

This is a first for me hearing about applying it after your piece is one every one else that I know including me apply it before hand.

Thats a great tip about using it to seal the lace to your skin your skin i'll share that tip with the other lace wig user.