Muhammad at 60 Takes 17-Year-Old Safiyah as Sex-slave
After securing beautiful Safiyaah daughter of Huyayy for himself, Prophet Muhammad bedded her in his tent on the same night. Here is the story: Merciful Prophet asked Bilal, the Negro crier of prayer to fetch Safiyyah to his (Muhammad's) camp. Bilal brought Safiyyah and her cousin straight across the battlefield strewn with dead-bodies, passing by the corpses of Kinana and his cousin. The two cousins of Safiyyah shrieked in horror when they witnessed the gruesome scene of the dead-bodies of their dear and near relatives. When brought to his presence, Muhammad cast his mantle around Safiyyah indicating that she was to be his own. Muhammad consoled a frustrated Dhiya by giving him Safiyyah's cousin sisters. According to Ibn Sa'd Prophet Muhammad purchased Safiyyah from Dhiyah for seven camels. On the same night, Muhammad took Safiyyah to bed. This was, of course, an exemplary character of the holy Prophet of Islam!
Here is what Ibn Sa'd writes:
"-.when it was night, he entered a tent and she entered with him. Abu Ayyub came there and passed the night by the tent with a sword keeping his head at the tent. When it was morning and the Apostle of Allah, may Allah bless him.
To hide the lascivious character of Muhammad, Muslim biographers often mention that he married Safiyyahh before he slept with her. But they forget to mention that Muhammad did not follow the rule of waiting period (three monthly periods) to sleep with Safiyyahh. He slept with her the same day she was captured.
Re: Why Musslim Prophet is a Sex Maniac and Plunderer
August 7 2009, 3:31 PM
The Qur'an:
Allah managed to hand down quite a few "revelations" that sanctioned Muhammad's personal pursuit of sex to the doubters around him. Interestingly they have become part of the the eternal, infallible word of the Qur'an, to be memorized by generations of Muslims for whom they have no possible relevance.
Qur'an (33:37) - "But when Zaid had accomplished his want of her, We gave her to you as a wife, so that there should be no difficulty for the believers in respect of the wives of their adopted sons, when they have accomplished their want of them; and Allah's command shall be performed." No doubt millions of young Muslims, trying to outdo one another at memorizing the Qur'an, have wondered about what this verse means and why it is there. In fact, this is a "revelation" of convenience that Allah just happened to hand down at a time when Muhammad lusted after his daughter-in-law, Zaynab, - a state of affairs that disturbed local customs. The verse "commands" Muhammad to marry the woman (following her husband's gracious divorce). As for why this should be part of the eternal word of God...?
Qur'an (33:50) - "O Prophet! surely We have made lawful to you your wives whom you have given their dowries, and those whom your right hand possesses out of those whom Allah has given to you as prisoners of war, and the daughters of your paternal uncles and the daughters of your paternal aunts, and the daughters of your maternal uncles and the daughters of your maternal aunts who fled with you; and a believing woman if she gave herself to the Prophet, if the Prophet desired to marry her-- specially for you, not for the (rest of) believers; We know what We have ordained for them concerning their wives and those whom their right hands possess in order that no blame may attach to you; " This is another special command that Muhammad handed down to himself that allows virtually unlimited sex, divinely sanctioned by Allah. One assumes that this "revelation" was meant to assuage some sort of disgruntlement in the community over Muhammad's hedonism.
Qur'an (33:51) - "You may put off whom you please of them, and you may take to you whom you please, and whom you desire of those whom you had separated provisionally; no blame attaches to you; this is most proper, so that their eyes may be cool and they may not grieve, and that they should be pleased" Muhammad may sleep with whichever wife he wishes without having to hear the others complain... as revealed in Allah's literal and perfect words to more than a billion Muslims.
Qur'an (66:1-5) - "O Prophet! Why ban thou that which Allah hath made lawful for thee, seeking to please thy wives?..." Another remarkable verse of sexual convenience concerns an episode in which Muhammad's wives were jealous of the attention that he was giving to a Christian slave girl. But, as he pointed out to them, to neglect the sexual availability of his slaves was against Allah's will for his life!
Qur'an (4:24) - "And all married women (are forbidden unto you) save those (captives) whom your right hands possess." Allah even permitted Muhammad and his men to have sex with married slaves, such as those captured in battle.
From the Hadith:
Muslim (8:3309) - Muhammad married Aisha at the age of nine. (See also Bukhari 58:234)
Bukhari (62:18) - Aisha's father, Abu Bakr, wasn't on board at first, but Muhammad explained how the rules of their religion made it possible. This is similar to the way that present-day cult leaders manipulate their followers into similar concessions.
Muslim (8:3311) - The girl took her dolls with her to Muhammad's house (something to play with when the "prophet" was not having sex with her).
Bukhari (6:298) - Muhammad would take a bath with the little girl and fondle her.
Muslim (8:3460) - "Why didn't you marry a young girl so that you could sport with her and she could sport with you, or you could amuse with her and she could amuse with you?" Muhammad posed this question to one of his followers who had married an "older woman" instead.
Bukhari (4:232) - Muhammad's wives would wash semen stains out of his clothes, which were still wet from the spot-cleaning even when he went to the mosque for prayers. Between copulation and prayer, it's a wonder he found the time to slay pagans.
Bukhari (6:300) - Muhammad's wives had to be available for the prophet's fondling even when they were having their menstrual period.
Bukhari (93:639) - The Prophet of Islam would recite the 'Holy Qur'an' with his head in Aisha's lap, when she was menstruating.
Bukhari (62:6) - "The Prophet used to go round (have sexual relations with) all his wives in one night, and he had nine wives." Muhammad also said that it was impossible to treat all wives equally - and it isn't hard to guess why.
Bukhari (5:268) - "The Prophet used to visit all his wives in a round, during the day and night and they were eleven in number." I asked Anas, 'Had the Prophet the strength for it?' Anas replied, 'We used to say that the Prophet was given the strength of thirty men.' "
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August 7 2009, 3:37 PM
Sex With Daughters-in-Law: Divinely Ordained in Islam
Sex with daughters in law is a very pious and sacred relationship which is promoted by Quran and was practiced by 'insan kamil,' our prophet, the perfect man.
Our prophet had a beautiful daughter in law Zainab, wife of his adopted son known as Zaid Bin Mohammed. One morning he walked into her room looking for his son and ran into her while she was just waking up and was wearing revealing clothing. He liked what he saw. To make a long story short , she was in his bed within a few days.
MADINANS CONFRONT THE PROPHET
In Arab culture a daughter in law was like one's own daughter, irrespective of whether the son was biological or adopted. The news that the prophet violated his own beloved sons wife enraged Madinans. They confronted him.
Madinans: Oh Prophet of Allah , how could you , of all the people an apostle of God, carry out a disgusting and despicable act of sleeping with your own daughter in Law. Your harem is bursting at seams with young and beautiful wives . On top of that you regularly take 20% cut from the crop of infidel captured women as your share of booty .
Rasulullah, your act is an incest which puts the time honored noble arab tradition of adoption to shame..
Prophet: To me the only noble and honorable act is to follow Allahs orders . And Allah was the one who ordered me to acquire Zainab. Here is the aya:
33.37 We gave her ( Zaids wife ) in marriage to thee, so that there should not be any fault in the believers, touching wives of their adopted sons.
Madinans: "It sounds very strange that Allah is so enthusiastic to get us married to our adopted children. Anyways , if that is what Allah wants so be it. But howcum you never had a marriage ceremony with Zainab before taking her to bed? Wouldnt that still be called an adultery?
Prophet: Not at all , because I am allowed to have sex with my first cousins without marriage and Zainab is the daughter of my aunt. Here is the aya:
33.50 (continued): O Prophet, We have made lawful for thee the daughters of thy uncles paternal and aunts paternal, thy uncles maternal and aunts maternal, who have emigrated with thee.
Madinans: "Prophet , are you sure that aya 33.50 was not brought to you by Satan like he brought to you the 'satanic ayas' in Mecca?"
Prophet: I dont get tricked by Satan any more. I am dead sure that Jibraeel brought it to me..
Madinans: Rasulullah ,there is another matter which we like to discuss with you. We are told that you have been sleeping with our wives after you send us on Jihad to far off places . Is that true.
Prophet: Yes it is. Believing women offer themselves to me in the hope of salvation and special favours from Allah in the hereafter and Allah has allowed me to fulfill their requests by aya 33.50.
33.50 (continued) and also allowed is any woman believer, if she gives herself to the Prophet and if the Prophet desires her (to have sex) (the word is nikah which means penetrating some one).
" However, as you know I am a very busy man and cannot fulfill all requests. Besides my wives get very antsy and jealous when I am with them ; they also hate to see the long lines of muslimas outside my room daily".
Madinans: Actually your wives are the ones who informed us of this matter. They said that you get so drained and tired by the time you come to their rooms, you fall asleep right after prayers. Some of your younger wives looked so jealous and outraged that we could have easily taken advantage of them like Safwan Bin Muattal is rumoured to have done with resentful and angry Ayesha on the way back from Mustaleeq after you dumped her for Juvaria.. You yourself believed she did it and had sent her to her Dad's house.
Prophet: Allah is aware of all that. That is why he has ordered my wives to be segregated and veiled from now on. You are not allowed to come to my home without permission any more and are only allowed to talk to them from behind a curtain , if you must (prior to that madina men socialized with them freely without hijab). Here is the revelation:
33.53: O you who believe! do not enter the house of the Prophet unless permission is given. And when ye ask of them (the wives of the Prophet) anything, ask it of them from behind a curtain.
And Allah has also given stern warning to my misbehaving wives."
33.30 : "O wives of the prophet! Who ever of you commits an open indecency, the punishment shall be increased to her doubly".
Madinans: Can we at least marry them when you are dead and gone because poor girls look so young and unfulfilled while you are old and ready to kick the bucket.
Prophet: "No way. Nobody should touch them even after I am gone".
Madinans: But you have married young widows of jihadis killed in the raids you ordered, Why cant we marry your widows then
Prophet: Because Allah said so.
33.53 (contd). And ye must not marry his wives, after him, for ever. This would be a grave offence to God.
Madinans: Forget about your wives . What about one night stands with our cousins and other muslimas if they offer themselves to us?..
Prophet: No one night stands for you. .You can sleep with them only if you marry them ...
Madinans: Why not?. You do it .
Prophet: Because one night stands is a privilege only for me , not for any one else. Here is the continuation of aya 33.50.
33.50 (continued) That is a special privilege for thee, not for other believers. They are only allowed their married wives and their right hands possessions (slave girls and captured women)
Madinans: But Prophet of Allah, does not aya 33.21 says you are our role model and aya 3.31 says we are to follow your example if we loved Allah? Then those ayas are really B.S.;because when you indulge in incest and adultery Allah endorses it right away and when we want to follow you and do the same , Allah calls it adultery and calls for flogging and stoning. Why?
Prophet: Allah said not to irritate your prophet and you are irritating the hell out of me.
33.53 (continued): It is not right for you to annoy and irritate the prophet of God.
Madinans: Cant we even ask any questions?
Prophet: No. If you ask questions you will end up getting beheaded.
Madinans: Where does that say in Quran?
Prophet: Sure it does. Ayas 5.101/102 says:
5.101/102 Dont ask questions. You lose faith by asking questions".
"When you lose faith you become apostate and Allah calls for beheading of renegades even before infidels..
Moral of the above fill in the blanks Quranic story: Your brain is like your donkey , and Islam is like a mosque. You can ride your donkey any where you want, but when you enter the mosque you have to leave the donkey at the gate.
Islamic scriptures inform us that most women won't make it to heaven and are destined for hell (Muslimahs take note !!).
"Among the inmates of Heaven women will be the minority" (Sahih Muslim 36: 6600);........
"I (Mohammed) have seen that the majority of the dwellers of Hell-Fire were women...[because] they are ungrateful to their husbands and they are deficient in intelligence" (Sahih Bukhari: 2:18:161; 7:62:125, 1:6:301).
Re: Why Musslim Prophet is a Sex Maniac and Plunderer
August 7 2009, 4:50 PM
Another brilliant thread. A magnificent example of the idiocy that predominates in this forum fueled by ignorance, hate and immaturity. Congratulations. I may make you my poster child for idiocy.
Provost
Nothing in the world can take the place of persistence. Talent will not; nothing is more common than unsuccessful men with talent. Genius will not; unrewarded genius is almost a proverb. Education will not; the world is full of educated derelicts. Persistence and determination alone are omnipotent. The slogan 'Press On' has solved and always will solve the problems of the human race.
Calvin Coolidge, President of the United States 1924-1929
Re: Why Musslim Prophet is a Sex Maniac and Plunderer
August 7 2009, 6:07 PM
Darra, this is an English language forum. If you post in a foreign language again, you will be warned.
Provost
Nothing in the world can take the place of persistence. Talent will not; nothing is more common than unsuccessful men with talent. Genius will not; unrewarded genius is almost a proverb. Education will not; the world is full of educated derelicts. Persistence and determination alone are omnipotent. The slogan 'Press On' has solved and always will solve the problems of the human race.
Calvin Coolidge, President of the United States 1924-1929
Re: Why Musslim Prophet is a Sex Maniac and Plunderer
August 7 2009, 6:19 PM
How about I just ban you? I'm sick to death of this idiocy. Either be part of the solution or you are part of the problem. You should be leading and showing responsibility. Instead you decide to participate in the idiocy. I will not warn you again.
Provost
Nothing in the world can take the place of persistence. Talent will not; nothing is more common than unsuccessful men with talent. Genius will not; unrewarded genius is almost a proverb. Education will not; the world is full of educated derelicts. Persistence and determination alone are omnipotent. The slogan 'Press On' has solved and always will solve the problems of the human race.
Calvin Coolidge, President of the United States 1924-1929
Re: Why Musslim Prophet is a Sex Maniac and Plunderer
August 7 2009, 11:49 PM
Th e British philosopher, Thomas Carlyle, who won the Nobel Prize for his book The Heroes wrote:
It is a great shame for any one to listen to the accusation that Islaam is a lie and that Muhammad was a fabricator and a deceiver. We saw that he remained steadfast upon his principles, with firm determination; kind and generous, compassionate, pious, virtuous, with real manhood, hardworking and sincere. Besides all these qualities, he was lenient with others, tolerant, kind, cheerful and praiseworthy and perhaps he would joke and tease his companions. He was just, truthful, smart, pure, magnanimous and present-minded; his face was radiant as if he had lights within him to illuminate the darkest of nights; he was a great man by nature who was not educated in a school nor nurtured by a teacher as he was not in need of any of this.
The Creation of the Universe
"Do not the unbelievers see that the heavens and the earth were joined together, then We clove them asunder? And We made from water every living thing. Will they not then believe?" (21:30) This verse is specifically addressed to non-believers, and touches upon the creation of the universe and the origins of all life. The Qur'an mentions the existence of a gaseous mass (dukhan,41:11) which is unique and whose elements, although at first fused together (ratq) subsequently became separated (fatq). The separation process resulted in the formation of multiple worlds, a notion which crops up dozens of times in the Qur'an (1:1): "Praise be to God, Lord of the Worlds." [1,2]
The Origins of Life
"And We made from water every living thing. Will they not then believe?" (21:30)
The building blocks of all living things are called cells. They are the basic units of life.
Protoplasm (cytoplasm nucleus) is the substance of all living things. Cytoplasm is a jelly-like material consisting of water and dissolved substances. The constitution of protoplasm is about 80-85% water. Without water life is not possible. [2]
None of the myths on the origins of life that abounded at the time of the Qur'an are present in the text. Furthermore, the fact that all life originated from water would not have been a very easy thing to convince people of 1400 years ago, especially in the desert!
The Expansion of the Universe
The expansion of the universe is the most imposing discovery of modern science. Today it is a firmly established concept and the only debate centres around the way this is taking place.
"The heaven, We have built it with power. Verily, We are expanding it." (51:47)We are expanding it' is the translation of the plural present particle musi'una of the verb ausa'a meaning "to make wider, more spacious, to extend, to expand." Some translators were unable to grasp the meaning and provided mistaken translations. Others sense the meaning, but were afraid to commit themselves eg. Hamidullah talks of the widening of the heavens and space, but he includes a question mark. Zidan & Zidan, and The Supreme Council for Islamic Affairs refer to the expansion of the universe in totally unambiguous terms. [1,2]
The Mountains
Mountains have always been looked upon as conspicuous landforms, characterized by lofty protrusions above their surroundings, high peaks and steep sides.However, the Qur'an accurately describes mountains as stabilizers for the Earth that hold its outer surface firmly, lest it should shake with us, and as pickets (or pegs) which hold that surface downwardly as a means of fixation."Have we not made the earth an expanse, and the mountains stakes (awtad)?" (78:6-7) and "And God cast into the ground mountains standing so that it does not shake with you." (31:10). [1,3]
The Developing Human Embryo
Statements referring to human reproduction and development are scattered throughout the Qur'an. It is only recently that the scientific meaning of some of these verses has been fully appreciated. The Qur'an determines that human development passes through stages (39:6). The realization that the human embryo develops in stages was not discussed and illustrated until the 15th century. The staging of human embryos was not described until the 20th century. Streeter (1941) developed the first system of staging which has now been replaced by a more accurate system proposed by O'Rahilly (1972). However, the Qur'an was the first source to mention the (23:12-16). The Qur'an and Hadith also state that both parents share in the origins of the offspring: "O mankind! We created you from male and female." (49:13) and "We created mankind from a mixed drop (nutfah-amshaj)." (76:2)The mixed drop refers to the mixture and convergence of a small quantity of sperms with the ovum (and its associated follicular fluid) to form the zygote. It has the form of a drop and consists of a mixture of male and female secretions."Then we made the drop into a leech-like structure (alaqah)." (23:14) alaqah in Arabic means (i) to cling and stick to a thing; (ii) a leech or bloodsucker; (iii) a suspended thing; and (iv) a blood clot. Amazingly, each of the meanings for alaqah can be applied to human prenatal development.For example, taking alaqah to mean a leech we find that the embryo is surrounded by amniotic fluid just as a leech is surrounded by water. The human embryo clings to the mothers womb, in the same way that a leech clings to the skin. A leech is a pear shaped organism and thrives on bloodsucking. The diagram above clearly indicates that the shape of the embryo does in fact resemble a leech! At this stage the cardiovascular system has started appearing and the embryo is now dependant on the maternal blood for its nutrition like a leech! As there were no microscopes or lenses available in the 7th century, people could not have known that the embryo has this leech-like appearance."Then out of that leech-like structure We made a chewed lump (mudghah)." This statement is from Surah 23:14. The Arabic word mudghah means "chewed substance or chewed lump." Towards the end of the 4th week, the human embryo looks somewhat like a chewed lump of flesh. The chewed appearance results from the somites which resemble teeth marks. The somites represent the beginnings of the vertebrae (backbone). (For a detailed discussion concerning the Qur'an and modern embryology see 1,2,4,5,6).
Lost Civilizations
In the 89th chapter of the Qur'an, the city of "Iram" is mentioned: "Have you not seen how your Lord dealt with Aad, of the city of Iram, with lofty pillars the like of which was never created in any land?" Iram has been unknown to history, so much so that it apparently became an embarrassment to some Muslim commentators of the Holy Qur'an. In 1975, in North-Western Syria the ancient city of Ebla was excavated.Ebla is over 4500 years old. In the ruins of the Palace Library they found the largest collection of cuneiform clay tablets ever discovered - around 15,000. Written in the oldest Semitic language yet identified, the tablets reveal that Ebla rivalled Egypt and Mesopotamia as a major power of the ancient world. They found in there a record of all the cities that Ebla used to do business with including one IRAM! [7,8,9]
What happened to the body of Pharaoh of the Exodus ?
The Biblical version of Pharaoh's story states that he was drowned in the pursuit of Prophet Moses (Exodus 14:28-29). Unknown to the world till only of late, the Holy Qur'an made a definite prediction about the preservation of the body of that same Pharaoh of Moses' time 10:90-92:"This day We shall save you in your body so that you may be a sign for those that come after you". The body was discovered in the tomb of Amenhotep II in 1898. [2,12]
The resting place of Noah's Ark
The Bible states that "And the Ark rested... upon the mountains of Ararat." Genesis 8:4. According to the Holy Qur'an (11:44): "The Ark came to rest upon Al-Judi." According to recent evidence from an archaeological find in Eastern Turkey, experts believe they may have discovered the remains of an ancient vessel whose dimensions mirror those of Noah's Ark as told in the Bible. However, the discovery was made on Al-Judi! [10,11]
The Holy Qur'an:- God's final Guidance to Mankind
"How could a man, from being illiterate, become the most important author in terms of literary merits in the whole of Arabic literature? How could he the pronounce facts of a scientific nature that no other human being could have possibly known at that time, and all this, without once making the slightest error in his pronouncement on the subject?" (Dr. Maurice Bucaille).
Re: Why Musslim Prophet is a Sex Maniac and Plunderer
August 8 2009, 12:09 AM
"How could a man, from being illiterate, become the most important author in terms of literary merits in the whole of Arabic literature? How could he the pronounce facts of a scientific nature that no other human being could have possibly known at that time, and all this, without once making the slightest error in his pronouncement on the subject?"
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and dont forget to add how can a senile old horny faggot can even think about marrying a 6 year old . it must be the will of pisslamic allah
SURRENDER OF PAKI ARMY IN 1971
1N 1971 A NEW HISTORY AS WELL AS A NEW NATION WAS CREATED BY WE THE INDIANS..
Re: Why Musslim Prophet is a Sex Maniac and Plunderer
August 8 2009, 12:18 AM
you know what you think you are clever by making these lies against Islaa...you think you are harming the religion... but the funny thing is non muslims convert because they say hang on a minute and tink... they research and find out more... God as given them a brain to distinguish lies from truth... thats is why educated ppl, lords in britian... scientist, celebrities are convertin to islam in HUNDREDS... truth stands out clear from falseood keep going
whats is amazing is that these are the words of NON muslims
Th e British philosopher, Thomas Carlyle, who won the Nobel Prize for his book The Heroes wrote:
It is a great shame for any one to listen to the accusation that Islaam is a lie and that Muhammad was a fabricator and a deceiver. We saw that he remained steadfast upon his principles, with firm determination; kind and generous, compassionate, pious, virtuous, with real manhood, hardworking and sincere. Besides all these qualities, he was lenient with others, tolerant, kind, cheerful and praiseworthy and perhaps he would joke and tease his companions. He was just, truthful, smart, pure, magnanimous and present-minded; his face was radiant as if he had lights within him to illuminate the darkest of nights; he was a great man by nature who was not educated in a school nor nurtured by a teacher as he was not in need of any of this.
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Re: Why Musslim Prophet is a Sex Maniac and Plunderer
August 8 2009, 4:30 AM
From the forum warning:
"Threads containing such will be edited/locked and the poster(s) will be face disciplinary measures appropriate to the offense....."
More than locking/editing the thread could happen for those who parlay. Things are getting hairy folks so unless you're feeling very lucky don't do it. It doesn't matter your intent for doing so or personal motivation.......violation of the rules either way handled the same way.
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