http://www.network54.com/Forum/211833/thread/1251058031/last-1251251377/Now%2C+UK+wants+to+share+Lanka%92s+experience
\\Well victory does have a thousand fathers and defeat is always an orphan. If the outcome of the war was different this "hand" would defiantly remain hidden.\\
Irrespective of the "hand" being hidden or not, one thing which is pretty much sure is that had Srilanka lost the war and the LTTE won it, the same people who are now rejecting India's "hand" would be the first people to make India the scapegoat and see India's "hidden hand" everywhere.
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\\Lanka rejects some of Gokhales claims\\
So does Indian Govt.That is the whole point. India will always downplay its defense relationship with srilanka as long as the srilankan Sinhalese and the Srilankan Tamils patch up with each other and the issue loses its political steam in Tamil nadu. The Srilankan Govt will not admit that India helped them in crucial moments until the Indian Govt is comfortable with the world knowing it as it will put the Indian Govt in difficult positions with respect to Tamil politicians.
http://www.zeenews.com/news557957.html
'Asked about the book by television journalist claiming that India offered M17 choppers to Sri Lankan army, Raju said "it must have been purely in self-defense and no more". He did not elaborate'.
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\\SL got plenty of help with hardware and training from practically everywhere, India has blown hot and cold (Tamil Nadu factor playing into this as you said). The war was deemed "un-winnable" by the West and all the other big noise makers, top Indian generals towed this line as did the likes of B. Raman, all of whom were proved wrong in the end.\\
SL got hardware from everywhere after they kept India in the loop. India did make some hot and cold statements primarily during the electing period when the ruling coalition in New Delhi needed the support of Tamil parties, but it did not do anything on the ground which would impede SL's arms acquiring effort because the Srilankans had regular communications with Indians on their defense needs.
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\\India's assistance was rather small when compared to what was received from other places, so India trying to be another father of the victory and claim a large sum of the credit is odd.\\
Where did is it anywhere mentioned that India is trying to be the father of the victory of LTTE ? If it is anything at all, the Indian Govt is distancing itself as much as it can from the revelations that it covertly supplied weapons to the Srilankan Govt forces. It was clear from the outset that from the moment the Indians withdrew support to the LTTE, the LTTE days were numbered. As far as Srilanka is concerned, India has always been the scapegoat both for the Sinhalese as well as the Srilankan Tamils. While the Sinhalese accuse the Indians of "Big brother attitude" towards the Sinhalese, the Srilankan Tamils in the same breadth accuse India of decimating the LTTE by covertly supporting the Srilankan Govt.
http://www.tamilnation.org/intframe/india/071104intelligence_support.htm
India's intelligence support for Sri Lanka
'Reports say India helped Sri Lanka to install radar stations in Anuradhapura, Vavuniyaa and Trincomalee apart from several other places in the south of Sri Lanka.'
'There are speculations that intelligence related to sea traffic is being supplied to Sri Lanka by India and this played a crucial role in the recent sinking of vessels alleged to be carrying arms for the LTTE'
'It is said that many such activities take place on the basis of secret protocols agreed between India and Sri Lanka in recent times. At present it is mostly operative at the officers level. Monthly meetings and briefings take place regularly between the officers of the two countries.
'Another noticeable development, in addition to the supply of improved marine and satellite intelligence, is the Indian interest in training Sri Lankan armed forces. Analysts say India has increased the number of officer-trainees from 900 which was agreed upon earlier, to 2,250 in the current year, despite public opposition in Tamil Nadu for any military assistance to Sri Lanka'.
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\\Sri Lanka choosing to adopt independent policies and what were progressive national policies in the 70s which managed to "upset" India does not justify India's actions in destabilizing, exasperating and seeding violence in Sri Lanka or anywhere else (well it would if India did not possess and project a "holier than thou" attitude to the whole neighborhood despite its own obvious problems nor protest loudly when others carry out violence in India or provide unwanted lectures).\\
"Progressive national policies" does not equal allowing your country to be used as a base by outside powers against India. As the Srilankan President Mahinda Rajapakse himself admitted, the reason why Indian had to support the LTTE in the past is the threats of using the 'American card' against India by the Sri Lankan politicians at that time when India and America were not in good terms. India retaliated by using the 'LTTE card'. The security of India's southern flank depends on the security of Srilanka.Both are closely linked to each other. But the Srilankan politicians always used this interdependence as a weapon and bargaining chip against India by playing 'American card' (as in the past) or 'China card' (as they are trying to do now) whatever suited them.
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\\Rajapaksa of course will say what needs to be said. He wants good relations while India wants a master servant relationship, which he counters by playing the China card.\\
To characterize India's relations with Srilank as Master-Servant relation is absurdity of the highest order. The Indians have told repeatedly they don't have neither territorial ambitions in Srilanka nor they have any interest in destabilizing Srilanka.The srilankans simply forget that it was they who first asked India to intervene in Srilanka and when India did intervene and forced a peace agreement between them and LTTE, the Sinhalese chauvinists like then president premadasa went to the extent of supplying weapons to LTTE to be used against India. And when India was on the verge of decimating LTTE, its was again then SL president premadasa who asked India to withdrew its forces.Srilanka was not India's war. And yet the Indians intervened because the civil war in Srilanka was used by all and sundry to get a foothold in srilanka which was against Indian interests.
This is the interview of Srilankan President Mahinda Rajapaksa who talks about How the former president Premadasa sabotaged IPKF.Even as far as 2008, he wants India to mediate which India has been consistantly refused after the "gratitiude" the Srilankans had shown to the IPKF.
http://www.indianexpress.com/news/why-not-india-to-mediate-with-ltte-i-trust-neighbours-if-they-are-ready.-i-think-they-know-lttes-mentality/261222/0
Reporter : You can describe yourself as a hawk or a dove, but the fact is that this kind of a sustained military campaign has not been seen in the past. In fact its also a success because now LTTE has isolated itself to a corner.
President Rajapaksa : I have learnt from history, experience, because whenever I say there is a ceasefire, whenever they have had some breathing period, they have increased their fire power, trained their people, and started fighting after that. They were not genuine.
Reporter: So they have exploited the period of ceasefire.
President Rajapaksa : Yes.
Reporter: And you are not going to let it happen now.
President Rajapaksa : I wont. I dont think I will, because knowing what happened earlier, why should I do the same thing? If they hand over their arms to an independent party . . .
Reporter: Or a mediator. Like the Norwegians?
President Rajapaksa : Why not India?
Reporter : Are you serious?
President Rajapaksa : Yes.
Reporter : Would you rather that India mediate, or a really neutral country like Norway?
President Rajapaksa : I trust neighbours. Let them handle it if they want, if they are ready. But I dont mind if there is a group of SAARC countries. Ill prefer (that).
Reporter : Why are you shy of the Scandinavians? They are everybodys neutral these days.
President Rajapaksa : This is what everybody is talking about. This is the picture you see. I dont mind whether it is Norwegians, Japanese, or some other Scandinavian country. Its whether the people of our country will believe them or trust them.
Reporter: You think a bigger power will command a greater assurance?
President Rajapaksa : I think so, because sometimes the pressure that India can put on the LTTE . . . I think they know their mentality. Theyve been working with them for a long time.
Reporter: One way and the other. But can India do all this despite the Tamil politics?
President Rajapaksa : This is my problem, about which Im always thinking. I dont want to pressurise India or make any demands on it, because I know the difficulty, especially in a coalition government.
Reporter : Have you made progress in your talks with the Indian side?
President Rajapaksa : I think we have a very good relationship. They understand me and I think now they understand me better than earlier.
Reporter : Earlier, even they saw you as a hawk.
President Rajapaksa : I dont know. I wont say anything about it. But I think now they know who Mahinda Rajapaksa is and what I think.
Reporter : Did you see initially that there were areas where the Indian side needed to understand you better?
President Rajapaksa : I think some of our leaders who were close to India and who went there must have given a wrong picture about me. But when they understood me, it was very easy to negotiate and talk to them and they were very sympathetic.
Reporter : Have you asked (India) that whenever you are ready, I would like you to mediate?
President Rajapaksa : They never asked me.
Reporter : Have you asked them?
President Rajapaksa : We will prefer them.
Reporter : You will prefer India to mediate?
President Rajapaksa : This I said before I became a MP.
Reporter : But politicians say one thing when they are out of power and another when they are in power.
President Rajapaksa : When I was a minister and when I went to Dehradun, somebody asked me this question, and I said, Yes, why not! But western countries, and even India, prefer (that) a country like Norway (negotiate).
Reporter : Its interesting that you say so. But tell me one thing: would the public opinion in Sri Lanka accept an Indian role?
President Rajapaksa : I think so.
Reporter : After the IPKF experience? Is there no gratitude for what the IPKF did here?
President Rajapaksa : Thats past. We have to build a new relationship. There is a new trend in Sri Lanka. Most businessmen are investing in Sri Lanka. In the past, I will admit, we have not shown gratitude. But as soon as I came I ordered a monument to be built for them (IPKF) and I will see the work is completed before our Independence Day, February 4. Its under construction.
Reporter : Where is it being built?
President Rajapaksa : Near Parliament.
Reporter : You dont think this is an unpopular decision? Will Sri Lanka appreciate that?
President Rajapaksa : I dont think this will be an unpopular move. But the LTTE may not like it.
Reporter : So you are saying that the people of Sri Lanka should have some gratitude for what the IPKF did here?
President Rajapaksa : Certainly. They came here and sacrificed their lives.
Reporter : And many limbs. And what did they achieve for Sri Lanka that people at that point of time did not appreciate?
President Rajapaksa : That was a political campaign by Premadasa. If Premadasa had allowed IPKF to continue for another few months, they would have done something substantial.
Reporter : Finish the LTTE? Do you think they were that close.
President Rajapaksa : In a way, yes. They would have at least given the Sri Lankan army a better position.
Reporter : And Premadasa sabotaged it? He was a Sri Lankan patriot.
President Rajapaksa : The problem was that he wanted to become the president of this country and wanted the support of some of the extremists, some of the Left parties.
Reporter : Like the JVP then. And just for the cynical pursuit of presidency he did this?
President Rajapaksa : Yes.
Reporter : Because when I used to come here as a travelling reporter, people used to say that the Sri Lankan government used to supply weaponry to the LTTE and at the same time used to leak the movement of the Indian units to the LTTE.
President Rajapaksa : I dont want to comment on the (allegations of ) the Sri Lankan army supplying weapons or giving information about the (IPKF) troops. But that was an allegation by the opposition.
Reporter : No, not your opposition, but your own party people: Chandrika Kumaratunga once told me, he supplied weapons and later Lalith (Atulathmudali) went a step further and said these weapons were supplied to the LTTE by Premadasa in Tata trucks supplied (by India) to the Sri Lankan army.
President Rajapaksa : Quite right. But I dont want to comment on what he did because hes dead and gone.
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