DERA ISMAIL KHAN: After fleeing Pakistans latest war zone, grandfather Haji Abdullah had hoped for a warmer welcome when he reached safety.
When they realise youre a Mehsud, they treat you like a suicide bomber whos wearing an explosive jacket, said Abdullah, one of 120,000 people to have fled an anti-Taliban army offensive in the South Waziristan tribal belt.
Its simply humiliating, added the 67-year-old, who travelled from his home in Makin, a Taliban redoubt, with five sons and seven grandchildren.
Like many of those fearing for their lives, Abdullah made his way to the city of Dera Ismail Khan where he soon encountered hostility as a member of the same tribe as Taliban chief Hakimullah Mehsud.
Such is the wariness of locals in a town which has endured a history of militant attacks, Abdullahs family says he was only able to find somewhere to stay three days after one of his relatives put up guarantees.
No landlord was willing to rent out his house to me, he added.
But locals say they have every reason to suspect the uninvited new-arrivals from Waziristan, which lies outside direct government control, and believe many are active Taliban followers who are masquerading as innocent victims.
These people are a security risk as most of them belong to the Mehsud tribe and have strong Taliban sympathies, said Adeel Shahzad, a shoe shop salesman.
The situation has become very tense in our city because of the arrival of these people, Shahzad said, accusing them of triggering an increase in crime.
A local police commander said his men had received strict orders from the provincial government to keep a close eye out for trouble.
We have clear orders from the government to keep an eye on the displaced persons as the situation may further deteriorate with their arrival, district police chief Gul Afzal Afridi told AFP.
We have intelligence reports that many of these displaced persons were strong supporters of Taliban, he said, adding that dozens of new police checkposts have been set up across the city.
Police and army personnel can be seen patrolling the streets round the clock in the city, which has a history of Sunni-Shiite sectarian violence as well as Taliban attacks.
Hospitals and hotels have shut their gates and only people with valid identity documents can enter these places.
We have shut our gates and nobody without proper identification papers can enter, said Haji Munawar Khan, who works as a manager in a local hotel.
The International Crisis Group says the needs of internally displaced persons (IDPs) from Waziristan are being neglected in a climate of animosity between Pashtuns from the tribal belt and those from the settled areas.
Few efforts, local or international, have been made to identify their needs or to help them rebuild their homes, schools, shops and places of work once they return, it said in a policy report published last week.
Most FATA (tribal belt) IDPs have not received adequate assistance or any compensation for the destruction of their properties and livelihoods. The think-tank accused the military of not allowing camps for Waziristan IDPs on the unjustifiable grounds that they would offer jihadi groups pools of easy recruits, forcing Mehsuds to seek accommodation in private homes.
Host families have frequently faced harassment by the security agencies, including the military, paramilitary and police, said the report.
Cleaning the barrel of his gun with a handkerchief, Ghazanfar Ali, a private security guard, blamed lawlessness in his city on Afghans and the Taliban.
The Afghan refugees who migrated to Pakistan in 1980s started the law and order problems in our city and now its the Taliban, Ali said, accusing the Taliban for all the attacks to have rocked the flashpoint city in recent years.
Such attitudes infuriate Merajuddin Mehsud, who insists there is no reason for him to be tarred by association with the Islamist hardliners.
I found a house after roaming around for days but still the landlord wanted my national identity card and educational certificates of my son as a guarantee, said the 45-year-old, who has four children.
We were fed up with the attitude of Taliban in South Waziristan and here it is police and the local population who are creating problems for us. AFP
the problem is dera ismail Khan is a town of the WAZIR Pashtun Tribe.. and the Wazir and Mehsud Pashtun tribes are sworn enemies who regularly fight over land.
I dont blame the wazirs for being wary of the mehsuds.. the mehsud are vengeful barbarians.. they have a name for this even amongst pashtuns.
The people of eastern Afghanistan and northwestern Pakistan are called Pashtuns. Their land has been invaded -- but never conquered -- by the soldiers of Alexander the Great, Genghis Khan, Tamerlane, Great Britain, the Soviet Union and the United States.
The Pashtuns have a tribal code that transcends politics and even religion. It commands them to grant protection to every guest -- and to give fugitives like Mr. bin Laden the right of refuge. It decrees death to invaders. The first British garrison surrendered Kabul in 1842, and 16,000 died at the hands of the Pashtuns in a retreat through Jalalabad to the Khyber Pass. One man survived. The last Soviet general left Afghanistan in 1989, after a nine-year occupation and 15,000 Soviet deaths.
make no mistake the tribes are with the government on this, it is only a sub clan of the wazirs who have given refuge to foreigners and now it is their duty to protect them. Dont forget it is mainly pashtuns fightng against the mehsud pashtun tribe.
nobody knows who is behind these attacks... maybe its Mehsud Pashtuns taking revenge for killings or its foreign elements
what is clear is that before 911 not one Pashtun was a terrorist or had comitted international terrorism, Suicide bombings on the frontier were unheard of... the US made a mistake by turning the war against alqaeda into a war againts Pashtuns... This is very dangerous for Pakistan. As a country Pakistan has paid huge costs because of the US war on terror because this is US war on terror NOT Pakistans and because of the yanks ill thought policies Pakistan has been caught up in it.
this war against the waziristan pashtun tribe is suicidal... it could suck in other pashtun tribe like the wazirs, afridis, orakzais, mohmands etc...
Pakistan should tell the US to F off... its their mistake from turning this war against Al Qaeda in Afghanistan to a Pashun struggle... suicide bombings were unheard of in Pakistan.. especially those comitted by Pashtuns.. Pakistan has 3 million pashtuns the cost will be too great for us.
The warlike Pathans [or Pathan, Pukhtun or Pushtun] form one of the world's largest tribal societies (about 16 million) and are divided into numerous sub-tribes and clans.... The Pathan hill tribes all have a passion for freedom and independence, and defend their territory and honor against all invaders. They are fearless guerilla fighters who know the hills and valleys intimately, are crack shots and wear clothes that blend with their surroundings (khaki is a local word meaning 'dusty, and it was as a result of the wars in this region that the British army abandoned its bright red uniforms for the inconspicuous dust-colored khaki). No one has ever managed to subdue or unite them: the Mughals, Sikhs, British and Russians have all suffered defeat at their hands."
"The Pukhtunwali (the Way of the Pukhtuns) is an inflexible ethical code by which all true Pathans traditionally abide. Pukhtunwali requires that every insult be revenged and, conversely, every guest protected. To safeguard his honor, o the honor of his family or clan, a Pathan will sacrifice everything, including his money and his life. He will return even t he slightest insult with interest. According to a Pathan proverb, 'He is not a Pathan who does not give a blow for a pinch.'"
"The Pathans are notorious for the family feuds, often the result of disputes over zar, zan or zamin - gold, women or land."
"In Lords of the Khyber (1984), Andre Singer illustrates this by recounting the story of a man he interviewed 'who proudly declared that he had killed seven male members of a Mahsud family for having insulted his wife, and so far only his brother had been killed in the revenge.'"
"Tales of the dangers of the Khyber Pass and the legendary ferocity of the Pathans stirred the English imagination and evoked scenes of gallant soldier defending the might of the Raj against the equally gallant but merciless Pahatns.... Nonetheless, if the British exacted revenge by razing whole villages to the ground, the Pathans retaliated with ambushes and slaughter, and even mutilated wounded enemies.
"When you're wounded and left on Afghanistan's plains
nice picture . so even ur women are kicking ur soldiers a$$.
no wonder why that green police men is wearing salwar(womens cloths). and behind him those policemen are also wearing salwaar kameez just like women they face.
lol idiot... the generals leading the assault are pashtuns and majority of soldiers are pashtun including fc! lol
what you forget is this is a pashtun v pashtun war.. those fighting militants are pashtun
not like the sikh massacer as below, lol
Massacre of Sikhs - 1984
In November 1984 following the assassination of Indira Gandhi, mobs lead by Congress leaders committed murder, loot, arson and rape, across India for over a week, however the worst effected area was the capital of India Delhi.
Due to the large span of area the actual number of those dead is unknown, official figures of those who died are over 4000 and 60,000 were rendered homeless in Delhi alone, these figures to not incorporate those missing.
India is ablaze with hate and anger. In city after city from one corner of the country to the other enraged mobs have gone and are going about systematically burning and looting Sikh properties and assaulting Sikhs without discrimination. 1The Times of India
Sikhs were sought out and burned to death. Children were killed, shops looted, cars burnt, markets destroyed, houses gutted. Trains were stopped and Sikhs were picked out and murdered. Akbar M.J.
Around 300 Sikh officers and men in uniform were done to death in the presence of non-Sikh soldiers, who stood as silent spectators. 2 Economic and Political Weekly
Police officers stood by and watched arson, rape, looting and murder, without making any attempt to intervene to protect citizens brlonging to the Sikh minority, without attempting to dissuade the attackers to call for reinforcements or other support, or even to inform the fire brigade. 3 Independent Report
Many people complained that, in some cases, the police were not merely hanging back, but giving active support. 4 The Times
We started from the foot paths after the 1947 Partition, now we get back to it in our old age wept an old couple, they had been deprived of all their belongings and also a young son.
1 The Times of India November 2 1984
2 Economic and Political Weekly Thapar, Ramesh.
3 Who are the Guilty? - Report PUCL and PUDR
4 The Times, 5 Nov 1984
yes and the same pashtun ruled you for a thousand years
One Thousand years of Turko-Pathan supremacy in Hindustan
The spread of Islam in the tribal belt dates back to the rise of the Turkish dynasty in Ghazni from about 960 AD. Mahmud of Ghazni conquered and incorporated areas of the subcontinent up to Lahore. Ghorid Sultan Muizzuddin Muhammad, with his headquarters in Ghor, subdued the north part of the subcontinent and was the founder of Muslim supremacy in Delhi in 1206. The fall of the Ghorids was followed by successive incursions of various forces from Central Asia. The most notable of these were those of conquerors Genghis Khan in 1221 and of Timur in 1398.
The tribesmen formed the spearhead of the Muslim penetration and conquest of India, first as soldiers of fortune and later as powerful kings, even as sultans and emperors.[citation needed] The Turks were a small band of chosen favourites; the soldiers, and later the rulers, were Ghaljis or Pathans.[citation needed] Apart from the Turks, i.e. Ghaznavids (1001-1186), Ghorids (1186-1290), and Tughlaqs (1321-1451), three Pathan dynasties, i.e., Khaljis (1290-1321), Lodis (1451-1526) and Suris (1539-55), had sat on the throne of Delhi. But their authority did not extend over the tribal belt. Babur, the conqueror of India and founder of the Mughal dynasty, wrote of the empire of Lodis that its writ did not run effectively west of the Indus, and it had no control over the Afghan or Pathan homelands from which its rulers had originally come.[citation needed]
The Pathan dynasties who ruled in India attracted many frontiersmen to their banners."[citation needed] The firman (royal edict) of Bahlol Lodhi (1451-1489), the ruler of Delhi, encouraging frontier tribes of the northwest to take service in Delhi stated:
Hindustan can best be held by somebody who rules over a nation with tribes. Let every Afghan tribesman bring his relatives leading a life of indigence, let them come and take up estates in Hind, relieving themselves from straitened circumstances, and supporting the State against powerful enemies.[citation needed]
The declining flow of Pathan warriors from the tribal belt may be one of the important causes of their downfall.[citation needed] The lack of support became obvious after the death of Sher Shah Suri in 1555.
This message has been edited by ShujaKhan on Nov 1, 2009 1:17 AM
The Muslims believe that Jesus (Peace Be Upon Him) was not crucified on the cross. They believe that he was raised to the heavens by the Lord and the Lord put someone (the Lord made him look like Jesus) in Jesus spot. There will be a day when Jesus (Peace Be Upon Him) will return to this world. He will return not as a prophet but as a follower of Muhammad (Peace Be Upon Him). Upon his arrival all the world's Christians will become Muslims. After some time the whole world will become Muslim for the Lord has said the whole world will taste Islam. I can't wait for that day. Indeed only someone so great can bring something so beautiful.
Long live the great Muslim people.
Long live the great Muslim nations.
anyway looking at ur sig that pious lady whom i wish to marry.
damn she looks so good and obedient not like my wife who wont talk to me if i forget some stupid date(wtf).
women are supposed to be mans servents not mans equal , which our ladies feel, we are to lenient for them, we shou;d be like u guys. yeah.
When you die God is not going to ask if you are a man or woman.
This is being equal in Islam.
There are many things that women have over men in my religion and vice versa.
Some things women have over men.
When a woman marries she gets a mandatory gift from her husband while the husband gets no such gift. This can be whatever legal thing she wants as long as he can afford it. Without this marriage is not valid in Islam.
If a couple gets a divorce the children automatically go the mother without even a trial and the father has to pay child support. There is no such thing as mother paying child support in my religion.
Whatever a woman earns at work she keeps for herself, she has no religious responsibility to spend on her family neither her husband or kids nor her parents and siblings. A man has to spend on his family by religious law.
It is said to love your mother three times more than your father. If your parents need your help you go to your mother first then father.
You die for the females in your family first then males.
Women get to wear gold, silver, diamonds and pearls while it is against my religion for men to wear these things. They also get to wear silk and necklaces/earrings/bracelets which men cannot wear.
I have to go to sleep now but these are just some things.
The Muslims believe that Jesus (Peace Be Upon Him) was not crucified on the cross. They believe that he was raised to the heavens by the Lord and the Lord put someone (the Lord made him look like Jesus) in Jesus spot. There will be a day when Jesus (Peace Be Upon Him) will return to this world. He will return not as a prophet but as a follower of Muhammad (Peace Be Upon Him). Upon his arrival all the world's Christians will become Muslims. After some time the whole world will become Muslim for the Lord has said the whole world will taste Islam. I can't wait for that day. Indeed only someone so great can bring something so beautiful.
Long live the great Muslim people.
Long live the great Muslim nations.
"Women get to wear gold, silver, diamonds and pearls while it is against my religion for men to wear these things. They also get to wear silk and necklaces/earrings/bracelets which men cannot wear."
obviously an irresisitble incentive b a muslim.
BTW how many burkha clad muslim babes have u seen wearing gold/silver/diamonds/pearls?
this is what happened the sikh holocaust BY THE MIGHY MIGHT STICK WIELDING HINUS
In November 1984 following the assassination of Indira Gandhi, mobs lead by Congress leaders committed murder, loot, arson and rape, across India for over a week, however the worst effected area was the capital of India Delhi.
Due to the large span of area the actual number of those dead is unknown, official figures of those who died are over 4000 and 60,000 were rendered homeless in Delhi alone, these figures to not incorporate those missing.
India is ablaze with hate and anger. In city after city from one corner of the country to the other enraged mobs have gone and are going about systematically burning and looting Sikh properties and assaulting Sikhs without discrimination. 1The Times of India
Sikhs were sought out and burned to death. Children were killed, shops looted, cars burnt, markets destroyed, houses gutted. Trains were stopped and Sikhs were picked out and murdered. Akbar M.J.
Around 300 Sikh officers and men in uniform were done to death in the presence of non-Sikh soldiers, who stood as silent spectators. 2 Economic and Political Weekly
Police officers stood by and watched arson, rape, looting and murder, without making any attempt to intervene to protect citizens brlonging to the Sikh minority, without attempting to dissuade the attackers to call for reinforcements or other support, or even to inform the fire brigade. 3 Independent Report
Many people complained that, in some cases, the police were not merely hanging back, but giving active support. 4 The Times
We started from the foot paths after the 1947 Partition, now we get back to it in our old age wept an old couple, they had been deprived of all their belongings and also a young son.
its FC pashtuns from their own tribe keeping order its called policing paki style...
not like this were Indian man tries to keep order and INDIAN WOMAN BITCH SLAPS HIM.... THIS IS WHAT AN INDIAN IS, CANT CONTROL HIS WOMEN, THATS WHY THEY F** PAKIS FOR FUN IN ENGLAND
now this is Real F***kin lol!!!!!
good hard beatings from stick wielding PATEL villagers who normally cant harm a fly but f**k sikhs for fun
here are the mighty patels behind it all!!! lol!!!!!!!
********************************************************************************************* poor weak ppl still want justice
This message has been edited by JoeinTX on Nov 7, 2009 4:13 AM This message has been edited by ShujaKhan on Nov 3, 2009 12:43 AM This message has been edited by ShujaKhan on Nov 3, 2009 12:31 AM
lo shuja u broken record what happened in india 30 years ago is ur response to every thing. dont u get tired of repeating urself over and over 100 times.
this is what happening to u today and since allah gave u birth u nitwit.
get in line pathan uncle if u want some rice.
get in line stupid afghan or we will not give u rice.
u slow or what take this
now u asked for it pathan
take this nitwit to jail
plz give me hasish i am pathan
how about we give u this instead u pathan
run flee pathans save ur a$$ if u can.
This message has been edited by jat_sikh on Nov 3, 2009 1:43 AM
why not FN? how many indian girls have Imran Khan, Shahid Afridi, shoaib Malik f***KD??? too many to count... I dont blame indian girls... they prefer Pathan or English cock.. why??? because they have ruled over them for a thousand years while their own men were impotent, lol
I bet indian women prefer even a little Pathan kid than Indians.... check out the Little pecker... PATHAN BOYS ARE BIGGER THAN FULL GROWN lil d1ck indians....
btw FN... Have you found your answer to this yet??? any reason why you cant get laid...
FreeNation wrote:
Hello ladies...I am an Indian guy (East Indian) living in the US...I get a feeling that most girls here do not like Indian guys. For example, I was in the gym the other day for a group fitness class and we needed a partner to exercise with, so I was randomly paired up with one American girl....she did not even smile back at me and it seemed she didn't want to even look at me. That's just one example, but in daily life too, me and my Indian friends have experienced that most American girls put on a very contemptuous and unfriendly expression when an Indian guy happens to make a casual eye contact (not leering) with them.
What is it about most Indian guys that girls hate? looks? accent? behavior? cleanliness? manners? height? color? culture? I would really like to know what repels most girls from Indian guys and maybe try to improve if its possible.
Thanks.
This message has been edited by ShujaKhan on Nov 3, 2009 1:04 PM This message has been edited by ShujaKhan on Nov 3, 2009 12:53 PM
yo.. give shuja his naan
it was stolen by some pathan.. yo
look at this jackarse cry
until his arse runs dry
looks like the punk from warrior race
is slapped across his face
living his life in phucking DISGRACE!!
colours of Kaziranga
This message has been edited by Free_Nation on Nov 5, 2009 2:58 PM
************************************************************************************************ Sujha, are you serious!?! That image was in direct violation of WAFF rules.
Warning Issued.
^^ pumping iron have we FN???
This message has been edited by JoeinTX on Nov 7, 2009 4:25 AM This message has been edited by JoeinTX on Nov 7, 2009 4:23 AM This message has been edited by JoeinTX on Nov 7, 2009 4:21 AM This message has been edited by ShujaKhan on Nov 5, 2009 4:29 PM
wow... little scuffle between two pashtun clans get u all excited!!!!
like these MIGHTY patels raping sikhs...
more SIKHS raped BY BAMBOO WIELDING HINDUS
HORNY Hindus raping Sikh OMEN... APPARENTLY THIS SIKH WOMAN TOOK IT ALL WITH A SMILE
more RAPE...sikh man and woman raped by 15 Patels
nice thappars FROM MIGHTY PATELS
lol no wonder your the only race to get RAPED BY HINDUS... SKINNY BLACK BABOON SIKHS
have a shower smelly sikh
^ EWWW DIRRRTY SIKHS... EWWW INDIANS
run boys run...
HAVE A DRINK ]
Fn and Jatt Rat.. doind their daily chores... no wonder you dont get laid and your women run off with PATHANS...
and a litle description of HOW SIKHS ARE THE ONLY RACE RAPED BY BAMBOO WIELDING PATELS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
THIS IS WHAT THE MIGHTY HINDUS DO TO THE BOOT CLEANING SLAVES OF HINDUS JATRATS...
Status 1.
In November 1984 following the assassination of Indira Gandhi, mobs lead by Congress leaders committed murder, loot, arson and rape, across India for over a week, however the worst effected area was the capital of India Delhi.
Due to the large span of area the actual number of those dead is unknown, official figures of those who died are over 4000 and 60,000 were rendered homeless in Delhi alone, these figures to not incorporate those missing.
STATUS 2
India is ablaze with hate and anger. In city after city from one corner of the country to the other enraged mobs have gone and are going about systematically burning and looting Sikh properties and assaulting Sikhs without discrimination. 1The Times of India
STATUS 3
Sikhs were sought out and burned to death. Children were killed, shops looted, cars burnt, markets destroyed, houses gutted. Trains were stopped and Sikhs were picked out and murdered. Akbar M.J.
STATUS 4
Around 300 Sikh officers and men in uniform were done to death in the presence of non-Sikh soldiers, who stood as silent spectators. 2 Economic and Political Weekly
STATUS 5
Police officers stood by and watched arson, rape, looting and murder, without making any attempt to intervene to protect citizens brlonging to the Sikh minority, without attempting to dissuade the attackers to call for reinforcements or other support, or even to inform the fire brigade. 3 Independent Report
STATUS 6
Many people complained that, in some cases, the police were not merely hanging back, but giving active support. 4 The Times
This message has been edited by ShujaKhan on Nov 9, 2009 3:44 PM This message has been edited by ShujaKhan on Nov 9, 2009 3:42 PM This message has been edited by ShujaKhan on Nov 9, 2009 3:38 PM