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POLL: Who is the greatest threat to security in Asia?

October 27 2010 at 2:03 AM
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So who do you believe is the greatest threat to security in Asia? I gotta go with Pakistan due the inability of the Pakistani Army to contain terrorism and the lack of a really stable government.


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AryanArya
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Satyameva Jayate (India)

Re: POLL: Who is the greatest threat to security in Asia?

October 27 2010, 3:17 AM 

I will have to go with Pakistan and China. Pakistan is like a sucide bomber with a nuke on its vest blackmailing everyone with a threat to blow itself up.And China is the one which gave Pakistan nukes in spite of knowing that pakistan is a unstable jihadi state.

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DAK
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Shaheens (Pakistan)

Re: POLL: Who is the greatest threat to security in Asia?

October 27 2010, 3:33 AM 

Easy to blame and pass the dishes....but to analyze the present you need to look in the past. So, you will find who is responsible. Pakistan is not responsible and neither China. Its same thing i make mess in your backyard and leave, then ask you to clean it....when the mess been dumping their for ages....

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nicholas
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Re: POLL: Who is the greatest threat to security in Asia?

October 27 2010, 5:56 AM 

was Japan in history.


now must be India, 800 million hunger and 1000 anti-Gov groups. human-sh!thole in the world!


if you ask me Who is the greatest threat to security in this world?


must be US, divided and rule you know that's the only thing they can do for those islands nations!



 
 

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Re: POLL: Who is the greatest threat to security in Asia?

October 27 2010, 5:21 PM 

Phuckistan, followed closely by China.

Phuckistan = jihadi hellhole, islamist society sympathetic to al-qaeda, safe recruiting ground for terrorists, nuke armed without any responsibility or security check, a beggar state which needs alms to run its economy.

In short a nuke armed failed state.

China = a maniac which will do anything to become the world sole superpower, be it arming phuckistan with nukes n missiles or supporting rogue states.


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Re: POLL: Who is the greatest threat to security in Asia?

October 27 2010, 7:11 PM 

If there were no india in Asia

there wont be any problems here from the start










Some Facts about Super Power india

--According to WFP, India accounts around 50% of the worlds hungry. (more than in the whole of Africa) and its fiscal deficit is one of the highest in the world. Indias Global Hunger Index (GHI) score is 23.7, a rank of 66th out of 88 countries. Indias rating is slightly above Bangladesh but below all other South Asian nations and listed under ALARMING category. Ref: IFPRI Country Report on India
-- 34.7 % of the Indian population lives with an income below $ 1 a day and 79.9 % below $ 2 a day.
--According to CIA world fact book, the Current account balance of India is -37,510,000,000 (minus) while China is the wealthiest country in the world with $ 426,100,000,000 (Plus) . India listed as 182 and China as no.1 [CIA: The world fact book]
--India has over 35 per cent of the worlds total illiterate population. [UNESCO Education for All Report 2008]
--Crime against Dalits (low caste) occur every 20 minutes in India. Every day 3 Dalit women are raped, 2 Dalits are murdered and 2 Dalit houses are burnt down! These figures represent only a fraction of actual incidents since many Dalits do not register cases for fear of retaliation by the police and upper-caste Hindu individuals. More than 165 million Dalits in India are simply abused by their Hindu upper castes for their birth! . [HRW Report2007]
--On an average one Indian woman commits suicide every four hours over a dowry dispute. During Indian marriage, women should bring jewellery, cash and even consumer durables as part of dowry to the in-laws. If they fail, the victims are burnt to death they are doused in kerosene and set fire to. Routinely the in-laws claim that the death happened simply due to an accident.
--Rape is the fastest growing crime in India. Every hour Indian women face two rapes, two kidnappings, four molestations and seven incidents of cruelty from husbands and relatives [National Crime Records Bureau Report 2006]
--Despite the much touted economic boom, only 0.8 percent of Indians own a car most are on foot, motorbikes, or carts. And of all the vehicles sold in India from April to November of last year, 77 percent were two-wheelers motorcycles, mopeds, or scooters.
--A 2006 opinion poll by OutlookAC Nielsen shows that 46 % of Indias urban class wants to settle down in US. Interestingly, in the Hindutva heart land of Gujarat, 54 % of people want to move to US.
--India is the World Banks largest borrower, In June 2007 it provided $3.7bn in new loans to India. Due to the fake India Shining propaganda launched by Hindutva idiots, foreign donors are reluctant to help the poor people in this country.

Quit India!
Sixty years ago Indians asked the British to quit India. Now they are doing it themselves. To live with dignity and enjoy relative freedom, one has to quit India! With this massive exodus, what will be left behind will be a violently charged and polarized society.


 
 

WAFFer
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Shaheens (Pakistan)

Re: POLL: Who is the greatest threat to security in Asia?

October 28 2010, 2:45 AM 

agreed has to be india, the core cause of all problems.

it cunningly attempts to destabilise other nations while attempts to sell on key words of democracy/freedom and so on...

lose india problem solved




@coldae

only NATO has failed to contain the insurgency in afganistan, in khost and Paktia NATO got wacked so badly they abandoned thier own posts...

Pakistan army on the other hand blasted the pakistani taliban to bits... as far as the afgan taliban based out of North Waziristan i dont know how many times we told u clowns this... WE ARE NOT INTERESTED. after all pakistan knows NATO will lose and leave, and we need this to keep the indians out..

clearly poor undertstanding of the subject on hand





Pakistan Airforce: The largest distributor of Indian airforce parts in Asia happy.gif

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Pathankot Strike
8 F-86Fs of No 19 Squadron led by Squadron Leader Sajjad Haider struck Pathankot airfield. With carefully positioned dives and selecting each individual aircraft in their protected pens for their strafing attacks, the strike elements completed a textbook operation against Pathankot. Wing Commander M G Tawab, flying one of the two Sabres as tied escorts overhead, counted 14 wrecks burning on the airfield. Among the aircraft destroyed on the ground were nearly all of the IAFs Soviet-supplied Mig-21s till then received, none of which were seen again during the War.


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Coalde
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Re: POLL: Who is the greatest threat to security in Asia?

October 28 2010, 1:57 PM 

"Pakistan army on the other hand blasted the pakistani taliban to bits"

Yeah that is why there are bombs going off in Karachi everyday...oh wait you beat them 1000 years ago...I can see that strategy has been highly effective.


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Satyameva Jayate (India)

Re: POLL: Who is the greatest threat to security in Asia?

October 29 2010, 12:01 AM 

pakistan..failed state with nukes. china may one day become sane and friends with india but never pakistan.

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WAFFer
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WAFFer

Re: POLL: Who is the greatest threat to security in Asia?

October 29 2010, 12:27 AM 

It is Pakistan , pakistan is greatest threat to itself , everyday you read news about target killing in karachi , drone attacks in north west pakistan , suicide bombers attacking shrine and mosques. they are all killing themselves.

PAKistan is greatest threat to itself.

 
 
foolonthehill
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Middle Kingdom (China)

Re: POLL: Who is the greatest threat to security in Asia?

October 29 2010, 6:12 AM 

it is India
so many Indian foolishly believe in demographic advantage.their population will soon increase to a level way exceed their land can support, in 20 to 25 years, india will have to invade their neighbors for foods and water.it is human nuclear bomb back up by nuclear bomb! who dare to intervene? most likely targets are Sri Lanka and Bangladesh then Burma then the entire southeast asia. since the purpose is obtain land for Indian to live, the conguered peoples will be genocided.even China barely escape only because of MAD.

we must convince the Indian to **** less!!!!

 
 

WAFFer
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Shaheens (Pakistan)

Re: POLL: Who is the greatest threat to security in Asia?

October 29 2010, 8:29 AM 

china and india friends???

muhhahah ahaha indians are biggest idiots next only to the africans


tell me dothead which clown who said this?

"CHINA IS THE NUMBER ONE ENEMY"

here is a hint it is from a former defense ministor of a country that only sewer rats like



@colode

clearly u have no idea of the politically inspired recent violence which has nothing to do with taliban...


really u should not post.. u r as stupid as the indians..



Pakistan Airforce: The largest distributor of Indian airforce parts in Asia happy.gif

[linked image]

Pathankot Strike
8 F-86Fs of No 19 Squadron led by Squadron Leader Sajjad Haider struck Pathankot airfield. With carefully positioned dives and selecting each individual aircraft in their protected pens for their strafing attacks, the strike elements completed a textbook operation against Pathankot. Wing Commander M G Tawab, flying one of the two Sabres as tied escorts overhead, counted 14 wrecks burning on the airfield. Among the aircraft destroyed on the ground were nearly all of the IAFs Soviet-supplied Mig-21s till then received, none of which were seen again during the War.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PFHlzP69n9c


 
 

Coalde
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Re: POLL: Who is the greatest threat to security in Asia?

October 29 2010, 1:21 PM 

"clearly u have no idea of the politically inspired recent violence which has nothing to do with taliban... "

Clearly you have no clue about anything (there are radical Islamist's lighting off the firework's Karachi, if you wish to call them something else well go nuts)...perhaps if you actually tried to understand the problem instead just of bleating away like a herd of trained sheep, you Paki's might not actually loose control of most of your country to a bunch of primitive goat herders...oh wait...that's what you Paki's call victory...


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WAFFer
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Shaheens (Pakistan)

Re: POLL: Who is the greatest threat to security in Asia?

October 30 2010, 9:14 AM 

lets make it simple for u..


is bajur, swat, south wazirstan,mohammad agency not firmly not pak military hands? No?

as hiliary clinton said on record has said Pak army ops were the most impressive to date. Admiral Mullan has echoed the same. in fact admiral Mullen has nothing but the deepest respect and admiration for our current chief of army staff...(to bad about your cronies didnt get the same praise)
news...


oh as far as pockets of the attacks that keep surfacing perhaps u should riegn in your uncontrolled CIA + RAW that is on a ramapage to destabilise pakistan for obvious reasons



Pakistan Airforce: The largest distributor of Indian airforce parts in Asia happy.gif

[linked image]

Pathankot Strike
8 F-86Fs of No 19 Squadron led by Squadron Leader Sajjad Haider struck Pathankot airfield. With carefully positioned dives and selecting each individual aircraft in their protected pens for their strafing attacks, the strike elements completed a textbook operation against Pathankot. Wing Commander M G Tawab, flying one of the two Sabres as tied escorts overhead, counted 14 wrecks burning on the airfield. Among the aircraft destroyed on the ground were nearly all of the IAFs Soviet-supplied Mig-21s till then received, none of which were seen again during the War.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PFHlzP69n9c


 
 


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Re: POLL: Who is the greatest threat to security in Asia?

October 30 2010, 3:40 PM 

"oh as far as pockets of the attacks that keep surfacing perhaps u should riegn in your uncontrolled CIA + RAW that is on a ramapage to destabilise pakistan for obvious reasons"

Jesus is that the best you have...imaginary white bogey man devils...well I guess I can hope there are actually some real patriotic Pakistanis who'd like to solve the countries problems...although I do note that most of the Pakistanis on this forum prefer their illusions of a great nation for Pakistan to the reality that it is nation spiralling toward being the next failed state on the globe.


"Look for your friends. But do not trust to hope. It has forsaken these lands. " - Eomer, Lord of the Rings, The Two Towers

 
 

WAFFer
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Shaheens (Pakistan)

Re: POLL: Who is the greatest threat to security in Asia?

October 30 2010, 7:03 PM 

do a little rearch on the topic, you have been owned on simple basic and well know facts... these are advanced concepts u need deeper knowledge and understand what the "great game" is all about...


what u display is what an average american joe would know via FOX or some western channel... which amounts to bullcrap



Pakistan Airforce: The largest distributor of Indian airforce parts in Asia happy.gif

[linked image]

Pathankot Strike
8 F-86Fs of No 19 Squadron led by Squadron Leader Sajjad Haider struck Pathankot airfield. With carefully positioned dives and selecting each individual aircraft in their protected pens for their strafing attacks, the strike elements completed a textbook operation against Pathankot. Wing Commander M G Tawab, flying one of the two Sabres as tied escorts overhead, counted 14 wrecks burning on the airfield. Among the aircraft destroyed on the ground were nearly all of the IAFs Soviet-supplied Mig-21s till then received, none of which were seen again during the War.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PFHlzP69n9c


 
 

Coalde
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Re: POLL: Who is the greatest threat to security in Asia?

October 30 2010, 9:16 PM 

"do a little rearch on the topic, you have been owned on simple basic and well know facts..."

Well since you haven't posted a single fact yet, merely your opinions...and are now claiming to have owned me (which is pretty much a guaranteed sign that that the person saying it has been owned)...I suggest that you tuck your tail between your legs and run away like the cowardly dog you are (that should be something, as a Pakistani, you should have a lot of practice at by now...isn't running away shrieking like a frightened schoolgirl the national sport in Pakistan?).

"these are advanced concepts u need deeper knowledge and understand what the "great game" is all about... "

I suspect Freya knows more about the 'great game' than you do (and since I always beat her at Diplomacy I know more than she does)...because Labradors deal strictly with reality and do not worry about fantastic (and unverifiable) stories about intelligence operatives trying to destabilize nations in direct conflict of their nations best interests.




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(Login IveGoneLimp)
Satyameva Jayate (India)

Re: POLL: Who is the greatest threat to security in Asia?

October 31 2010, 7:58 AM 

LOL at the Paki self ownage.


u should riegn in your uncontrolled CIA + RAW that is on a ramapage to destabilise pakistan for obvious reasons

You can't directly blame us though as our CIA-RAW nexus department is manned by Pakistanis.

as hiliary clinton said on record has said Pak army ops were the most impressive to date

Yeah the same Pak army whose soldiers opened fired on a attack helicopter to get it's attention LOL

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Re: POLL: Who is the greatest threat to security in Asia?

October 31 2010, 10:22 PM 

lthough I do note that most of the Pakistanis on this forum prefer their illusions of a great nation for Pakistan to the reality that it is nation spiralling toward being the next failed state on the globe.


because we live here and we know which you dont

Fox news and CNN wont tell you whats actually happening here
ask someone who has been here and u might get enlightened

As about Pakistan a failed state, its the same as the entire US beamed off to an alien world.
Both are not happening ...










Some Facts about Super Power india

--According to WFP, India accounts around 50% of the worlds hungry. (more than in the whole of Africa) and its fiscal deficit is one of the highest in the world. Indias Global Hunger Index (GHI) score is 23.7, a rank of 66th out of 88 countries. Indias rating is slightly above Bangladesh but below all other South Asian nations and listed under ALARMING category. Ref: IFPRI Country Report on India
-- 34.7 % of the Indian population lives with an income below $ 1 a day and 79.9 % below $ 2 a day.
--According to CIA world fact book, the Current account balance of India is -37,510,000,000 (minus) while China is the wealthiest country in the world with $ 426,100,000,000 (Plus) . India listed as 182 and China as no.1 [CIA: The world fact book]
--India has over 35 per cent of the worlds total illiterate population. [UNESCO Education for All Report 2008]
--Crime against Dalits (low caste) occur every 20 minutes in India. Every day 3 Dalit women are raped, 2 Dalits are murdered and 2 Dalit houses are burnt down! These figures represent only a fraction of actual incidents since many Dalits do not register cases for fear of retaliation by the police and upper-caste Hindu individuals. More than 165 million Dalits in India are simply abused by their Hindu upper castes for their birth! . [HRW Report2007]
--On an average one Indian woman commits suicide every four hours over a dowry dispute. During Indian marriage, women should bring jewellery, cash and even consumer durables as part of dowry to the in-laws. If they fail, the victims are burnt to death they are doused in kerosene and set fire to. Routinely the in-laws claim that the death happened simply due to an accident.
--Rape is the fastest growing crime in India. Every hour Indian women face two rapes, two kidnappings, four molestations and seven incidents of cruelty from husbands and relatives [National Crime Records Bureau Report 2006]
--Despite the much touted economic boom, only 0.8 percent of Indians own a car most are on foot, motorbikes, or carts. And of all the vehicles sold in India from April to November of last year, 77 percent were two-wheelers motorcycles, mopeds, or scooters.
--A 2006 opinion poll by OutlookAC Nielsen shows that 46 % of Indias urban class wants to settle down in US. Interestingly, in the Hindutva heart land of Gujarat, 54 % of people want to move to US.
--India is the World Banks largest borrower, In June 2007 it provided $3.7bn in new loans to India. Due to the fake India Shining propaganda launched by Hindutva idiots, foreign donors are reluctant to help the poor people in this country.

Quit India!
Sixty years ago Indians asked the British to quit India. Now they are doing it themselves. To live with dignity and enjoy relative freedom, one has to quit India! With this massive exodus, what will be left behind will be a violently charged and polarized society.


 
 

Coalde
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Re: POLL: Who is the greatest threat to security in Asia?

November 1 2010, 9:56 PM 

"because we live here and we know which you dont"

How many bombs went off in Karachi this year? What percentage of Pakistan's land area is effectively beyond the control of the federal government?

"Fox news and CNN wont tell you whats actually happening here ask someone who has been here and u might get enlightened"

Actually I don't watch either of those (I listen to Bloomberg and BNN while I work on WAFF in the evenings) and read newspapers from around world...including Pakistan.

"As about Pakistan a failed state, its the same as the entire US beamed off to an alien world.
Both are not happening ..."


Well I suspect if Pakistani's continue to stick their heads in the sand and blame invisible external bogeymen for for their problems...I suspect the problem with poor governance in Pakistan will continue to fester and get worse...one must keep politicians short leash...that is a universal truth that spans national borders.

Do what you wish.


"Look for your friends. But do not trust to hope. It has forsaken these lands. " - Eomer, Lord of the Rings, The Two Towers

 
 


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Re: POLL: Who is the greatest threat to security in Asia?

November 2 2010, 1:15 AM 

How many bombs went off in Karachi this year?

Bombs going off in Karachi is nothing new and didn't start with the war on terror either
Its more about drugs, gangs, politics and so on
This has nothing to do with the war on terror but then again you wont believe that, will you? simply because you dont want to as you are happy in believing otherwise...


Some time back we had a daily 2 bombings going on in the entire country which now is reduced to hardly one in a couple weeks

does that tell you something?


What percentage of Pakistan's land area is effectively beyond the control of the federal government?

None
unless you count North Waziristan as one which infact according to our constitution is a semi autonomous area and people there are sworn not to harbor any forces with ill intentions towards Pakistan and so far they have stood up to it and helped us in taking control of other areas where they didn't honor the pact

Hell we have more areas under the govt control then we had before the war on terror as entire FATA (Federally Autonomous Tribal Areas) was a semi autonomous area with a no go sign for the army but now its all under govt and army rule

So what ya talking about?










Some Facts about Super Power india

--According to WFP, India accounts around 50% of the worlds hungry. (more than in the whole of Africa) and its fiscal deficit is one of the highest in the world. Indias Global Hunger Index (GHI) score is 23.7, a rank of 66th out of 88 countries. Indias rating is slightly above Bangladesh but below all other South Asian nations and listed under ALARMING category. Ref: IFPRI Country Report on India
-- 34.7 % of the Indian population lives with an income below $ 1 a day and 79.9 % below $ 2 a day.
--According to CIA world fact book, the Current account balance of India is -37,510,000,000 (minus) while China is the wealthiest country in the world with $ 426,100,000,000 (Plus) . India listed as 182 and China as no.1 [CIA: The world fact book]
--India has over 35 per cent of the worlds total illiterate population. [UNESCO Education for All Report 2008]
--Crime against Dalits (low caste) occur every 20 minutes in India. Every day 3 Dalit women are raped, 2 Dalits are murdered and 2 Dalit houses are burnt down! These figures represent only a fraction of actual incidents since many Dalits do not register cases for fear of retaliation by the police and upper-caste Hindu individuals. More than 165 million Dalits in India are simply abused by their Hindu upper castes for their birth! . [HRW Report2007]
--On an average one Indian woman commits suicide every four hours over a dowry dispute. During Indian marriage, women should bring jewellery, cash and even consumer durables as part of dowry to the in-laws. If they fail, the victims are burnt to death they are doused in kerosene and set fire to. Routinely the in-laws claim that the death happened simply due to an accident.
--Rape is the fastest growing crime in India. Every hour Indian women face two rapes, two kidnappings, four molestations and seven incidents of cruelty from husbands and relatives [National Crime Records Bureau Report 2006]
--Despite the much touted economic boom, only 0.8 percent of Indians own a car most are on foot, motorbikes, or carts. And of all the vehicles sold in India from April to November of last year, 77 percent were two-wheelers motorcycles, mopeds, or scooters.
--A 2006 opinion poll by OutlookAC Nielsen shows that 46 % of Indias urban class wants to settle down in US. Interestingly, in the Hindutva heart land of Gujarat, 54 % of people want to move to US.
--India is the World Banks largest borrower, In June 2007 it provided $3.7bn in new loans to India. Due to the fake India Shining propaganda launched by Hindutva idiots, foreign donors are reluctant to help the poor people in this country.

Quit India!
Sixty years ago Indians asked the British to quit India. Now they are doing it themselves. To live with dignity and enjoy relative freedom, one has to quit India! With this massive exodus, what will be left behind will be a violently charged and polarized society.


 
 

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Forum Owner

Re: POLL: Who is the greatest threat to security in Asia?

November 2 2010, 8:30 PM 

"Some time back we had a daily 2 bombings going on in the entire country which now is reduced to hardly one in a couple weeks does that tell you something?"

It tells me that you believe that having bombs going off in your capital city is normal. It also tells me that you ignoring the reality of the situation, since virtually all of these explosions are followed by a Islamist group credibly claiminmg responsibility.

"Hell we have more areas under the govt control then we had before the war on terror as entire FATA (Federally Autonomous Tribal Areas) was a semi autonomous area with a no go sign for the army but now its all under govt and army rule. So what ya talking about?"

So your saying the government violated it's own constitution and is ruling at whim now...sorry how do you defined failed state beyond the government ignoring the laws that are supposed to protect the citizens?




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Re: POLL: Who is the greatest threat to security in Asia?

November 2 2010, 10:07 PM 

It tells me that you believe that having bombs going off in your capital city is normal. It also tells me that you ignoring the reality of the situation, since virtually all of these explosions are followed by a Islamist group credibly claiminmg responsibility.


no no one likes seeing bombs going off but it tell you that things have improved and where we had a lot of mess before we have only little remaining to clean

As about the claiming thing, i can blow up your house tomorrow and call the ny times and tell them i m from the CIA and take the responsibility
who you gonna believe then?


So your saying the government violated it's own constitution and is ruling at whim now...sorry how do you defined failed state beyond the government ignoring the laws that are supposed to protect the citizens?


No i m saying some our people violated the law and the constitution and the government has brought the law back to the places it was being violated from





but excuse me?
haven't i answered and countered your original debate? now you wanna keep coming up with new stuff to prove yourself right somehow?

the simple fact is
we are doing much better than we were in the early 2010 and the enxt year will see complete eradication of this problem and hopefully by that time nato would have withdrawn from Afghanistan for us to settle things down there too











Some Facts about Super Power india

--According to WFP, India accounts around 50% of the worlds hungry. (more than in the whole of Africa) and its fiscal deficit is one of the highest in the world. Indias Global Hunger Index (GHI) score is 23.7, a rank of 66th out of 88 countries. Indias rating is slightly above Bangladesh but below all other South Asian nations and listed under ALARMING category. Ref: IFPRI Country Report on India
-- 34.7 % of the Indian population lives with an income below $ 1 a day and 79.9 % below $ 2 a day.
--According to CIA world fact book, the Current account balance of India is -37,510,000,000 (minus) while China is the wealthiest country in the world with $ 426,100,000,000 (Plus) . India listed as 182 and China as no.1 [CIA: The world fact book]
--India has over 35 per cent of the worlds total illiterate population. [UNESCO Education for All Report 2008]
--Crime against Dalits (low caste) occur every 20 minutes in India. Every day 3 Dalit women are raped, 2 Dalits are murdered and 2 Dalit houses are burnt down! These figures represent only a fraction of actual incidents since many Dalits do not register cases for fear of retaliation by the police and upper-caste Hindu individuals. More than 165 million Dalits in India are simply abused by their Hindu upper castes for their birth! . [HRW Report2007]
--On an average one Indian woman commits suicide every four hours over a dowry dispute. During Indian marriage, women should bring jewellery, cash and even consumer durables as part of dowry to the in-laws. If they fail, the victims are burnt to death they are doused in kerosene and set fire to. Routinely the in-laws claim that the death happened simply due to an accident.
--Rape is the fastest growing crime in India. Every hour Indian women face two rapes, two kidnappings, four molestations and seven incidents of cruelty from husbands and relatives [National Crime Records Bureau Report 2006]
--Despite the much touted economic boom, only 0.8 percent of Indians own a car most are on foot, motorbikes, or carts. And of all the vehicles sold in India from April to November of last year, 77 percent were two-wheelers motorcycles, mopeds, or scooters.
--A 2006 opinion poll by OutlookAC Nielsen shows that 46 % of Indias urban class wants to settle down in US. Interestingly, in the Hindutva heart land of Gujarat, 54 % of people want to move to US.
--India is the World Banks largest borrower, In June 2007 it provided $3.7bn in new loans to India. Due to the fake India Shining propaganda launched by Hindutva idiots, foreign donors are reluctant to help the poor people in this country.

Quit India!
Sixty years ago Indians asked the British to quit India. Now they are doing it themselves. To live with dignity and enjoy relative freedom, one has to quit India! With this massive exodus, what will be left behind will be a violently charged and polarized society.


 
 

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Re: POLL: Who is the greatest threat to security in Asia?

November 2 2010, 10:43 PM 

"As about the claiming thing, i can blow up your house tomorrow and call the ny times and tell them i m from the CIA and take the responsibility who you gonna believe then? "

I am going to believe whomever makes the most sense...the police in most nations keep details withheld from the public on most crimes, and use those to verify which groups that claim to be responsible for something.

"but excuse me? haven't i answered and countered your original debate? now you wanna keep coming up with new stuff to prove yourself right somehow?"

Ahh no you have simply provided your opinion...I see no verifiable facts in any of your posts, merely your opinions.

"the simple fact is we are doing much better than we were in the early 2010 and the enxt year will see complete eradication of this problem and hopefully by that time nato would have withdrawn from Afghanistan for us to settle things down there too"

I am glad you are optimistic...although I have my doubts that Pakistan would succeed quelling Afghanistan as I believe that that is a political problem but a military one (which was the West's mistake IMHO...they failed to see the political reality on the ground).


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Re: POLL: Who is the greatest threat to security in Asia?

November 2 2010, 11:50 PM 

^ we almost merged Afghanistan with Pakistan at one point back in the history

We have majority of the Pashtun Population more loyal to Pakistan than most of the rest of us maybe and sitting in up high offices of government and military
If pashtuns can't solve the problems with Pashtuns than i don't know who can

You do know we were indirectly in control of Kabul before this whole WOT started



Ahh no you have simply provided your opinion...I see no verifiable facts in any of your posts, merely your opinions.


thats what you started with
what proof have you provided that states Pakistan has any land not under its control as of right now and the unrest in Karachi (mostly assasinations and not bombs) hs anything to do with WOT?


The only and the biggest challenge we face right now is a collapsed economy thanks to the 2008 earthquake, 2010 floods, the War on terror and the biggest of looters in our govt offices

The same economy which was growing second only to Chinese in 2002 - 2005 and the same Karachi Stock Exchange which was the biggest performer in the world in 2005 or was it 2006? are down in shatters now and thats where we are going to have to do some major battles ...












Some Facts about Super Power india

--According to WFP, India accounts around 50% of the worlds hungry. (more than in the whole of Africa) and its fiscal deficit is one of the highest in the world. Indias Global Hunger Index (GHI) score is 23.7, a rank of 66th out of 88 countries. Indias rating is slightly above Bangladesh but below all other South Asian nations and listed under ALARMING category. Ref: IFPRI Country Report on India
-- 34.7 % of the Indian population lives with an income below $ 1 a day and 79.9 % below $ 2 a day.
--According to CIA world fact book, the Current account balance of India is -37,510,000,000 (minus) while China is the wealthiest country in the world with $ 426,100,000,000 (Plus) . India listed as 182 and China as no.1 [CIA: The world fact book]
--India has over 35 per cent of the worlds total illiterate population. [UNESCO Education for All Report 2008]
--Crime against Dalits (low caste) occur every 20 minutes in India. Every day 3 Dalit women are raped, 2 Dalits are murdered and 2 Dalit houses are burnt down! These figures represent only a fraction of actual incidents since many Dalits do not register cases for fear of retaliation by the police and upper-caste Hindu individuals. More than 165 million Dalits in India are simply abused by their Hindu upper castes for their birth! . [HRW Report2007]
--On an average one Indian woman commits suicide every four hours over a dowry dispute. During Indian marriage, women should bring jewellery, cash and even consumer durables as part of dowry to the in-laws. If they fail, the victims are burnt to death they are doused in kerosene and set fire to. Routinely the in-laws claim that the death happened simply due to an accident.
--Rape is the fastest growing crime in India. Every hour Indian women face two rapes, two kidnappings, four molestations and seven incidents of cruelty from husbands and relatives [National Crime Records Bureau Report 2006]
--Despite the much touted economic boom, only 0.8 percent of Indians own a car most are on foot, motorbikes, or carts. And of all the vehicles sold in India from April to November of last year, 77 percent were two-wheelers motorcycles, mopeds, or scooters.
--A 2006 opinion poll by OutlookAC Nielsen shows that 46 % of Indias urban class wants to settle down in US. Interestingly, in the Hindutva heart land of Gujarat, 54 % of people want to move to US.
--India is the World Banks largest borrower, In June 2007 it provided $3.7bn in new loans to India. Due to the fake India Shining propaganda launched by Hindutva idiots, foreign donors are reluctant to help the poor people in this country.

Quit India!
Sixty years ago Indians asked the British to quit India. Now they are doing it themselves. To live with dignity and enjoy relative freedom, one has to quit India! With this massive exodus, what will be left behind will be a violently charged and polarized society.



    
This message has been edited by elvesninja on Nov 2, 2010 11:52 PM


 
 


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Re: POLL: Who is the greatest threat to security in Asia?

November 3 2010, 2:39 AM 

Yeah well whatever...but please don't expect us to manage your votes showing up one at a time in the Annual Awards...see my instructions here...

http://www.network54.com/Forum/242808/thread/1288698542/last-1288743069/The+2010+Annual+WAFF+Awards


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Re: POLL: Who is the greatest threat to security in Asia?

November 3 2010, 4:11 AM 

India. Not because that they are good. They took so long to suppress 10 men terrorising Mumbai. Lousy security force. Doubt that they can safeguard their nuclear weapon.

 
 


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Re: POLL: Who is the greatest threat to security in Asia?

November 3 2010, 2:24 PM 

@ colade

i thought that was just an easy job for any mods :P
any ways

are you the same Coalde who was the mod not long ago?

i was thinking of putting up that name for the best mod thingy :P










Some Facts about Super Power india

--According to WFP, India accounts around 50% of the world�s hungry. (more than in the whole of Africa) and its fiscal deficit is one of the highest in the world. India�s Global Hunger Index (GHI) score is 23.7, a rank of 66th out of 88 countries. India�s rating is slightly above Bangladesh but below all other South Asian nations and listed under �ALARMING� category. Ref: IFPRI Country Report on India
-- 34.7 % of the Indian population lives with an income below $ 1 a day and 79.9 % below $ 2 a day.
--According to CIA world fact book, the Current account balance of India is -37,510,000,000 (minus) while China is the wealthiest country in the world with $ 426,100,000,000 (Plus) . India listed as 182 and China as no.1 [CIA: The world fact book]
--India has over 35 per cent of the world�s total illiterate population. [UNESCO Education for All Report 2008]
--Crime against Dalits (low caste) occur every 20 minutes in India. Every day 3 Dalit women are raped, 2 Dalits are murdered and 2 Dalit houses are burnt down! These figures represent only a fraction of actual incidents since many Dalits do not register cases for fear of retaliation by the police and upper-caste Hindu individuals. More than 165 million Dalits in India are simply abused by their Hindu upper castes for their birth! . [HRW Report2007]
--On an average one Indian woman commits suicide every four hours over a dowry dispute. During Indian marriage, women should bring jewellery, cash and even consumer durables as part of dowry to the in-laws. If they fail, the victims are burnt to death � they are doused in kerosene and set fire to. Routinely the in-laws claim that the death happened simply due to an accident.
--Rape is the fastest growing crime in India. Every hour Indian women face two rapes, two kidnappings, four molestations and seven incidents of cruelty from husbands and relatives [National Crime Records Bureau Report 2006]
--Despite the much touted economic boom, only 0.8 percent of Indians own a car most are on foot, motorbikes, or carts. And of all the vehicles sold in India from April to November of last year, 77 percent were two-wheelers � motorcycles, mopeds, or scooters.
--A 2006 opinion poll by Outlook�AC Nielsen shows that 46 % of India�s urban class wants to settle down in US. Interestingly, in the Hindutva heart land of Gujarat, 54 % of people want to move to US.
--India is the World Bank�s largest borrower, In June 2007 it provided $3.7bn in new loans to India. Due to the fake �India Shining� propaganda launched by Hindutva idiots, foreign donors are reluctant to help the poor people in this country.

Quit India!
Sixty years ago Indians asked the British to quit India. Now they are doing it themselves. To live with dignity and enjoy relative freedom, one has to quit India! With this massive exodus, what will be left behind will be a violently charged and polarized society.


 
 

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Re: POLL: Who is the greatest threat to security in Asia?

November 3 2010, 4:10 PM 

"i thought that was just an easy job for any mods :P
any ways"


Ahh no it is not...voting has been open for one day and we have ~15 votes already. It is much easier if we just have a list with the category and who you are voting for (long speeches not required, as no one is ever going to see what you wrote).

"are you the same Coalde who was the mod not long ago?"

Yes I am, for some reason Mike felt that I would make a good admin...

"i was thinking of putting up that name for the best mod thingy :P"

Well I am no longer a mod, so I no longer qualify I suppose, but thank you for the thought.


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Re: POLL: Who is the greatest threat to security in Asia?

November 5 2010, 7:45 PM 

Sweden is the greatest threat

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Re: POLL: Who is the greatest threat to security in Asia?

November 7 2010, 7:00 PM 

so mother india wins this round...

india needs to be nuked.



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Re: POLL: Who is the greatest threat to security in Asia?

November 7 2010, 8:45 PM 

India?!

I find it hard to see a bunch of darkies as a threat.

Sorry. They deserve our pity and charity not animosity.

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Re: POLL: Who is the greatest threat to security in Asia?

November 8 2010, 3:45 AM 

we almost merged Afghanistan with Pakistan at one point back in the history

excellent weed . i say happy.gif

We have majority of the Pashtun Population more loyal to Pakistan than most of the rest of us maybe and sitting in up high offices of government and military

during partition majority of pakistan were against creation of pakistan .. they either weanted to remain with India or a greater Pakhtunistan. sadly they were cheated into accepting pakistan.

If pashtuns can't solve the problems with Pashtuns than i don't know who can

break up pakistan and a greater pakhtunistan is only long term solution. happy.gif

You do know we were indirectly in control of Kabul before this whole WOT started

precisely the reason why pakis were lynched on streets of kabul as soon as talibananas were smoked out happy.gif


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Re: POLL: Who is the greatest threat to security in Asia?

November 9 2010, 1:37 PM 

pakistan the most hated country in the world is most dangerous to not only pakis but rest of the world, uncivilized people who cant live in peace and make heros of terrorists who kill them on daily basis.


 
 


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Re: POLL: Who is the greatest threat to security in Asia?

November 9 2010, 8:50 PM 

All of you d!ckheads are a threat to Asia.

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Re: POLL: Who is the greatest threat to security in Asia?

November 10 2010, 5:16 PM 

^ this guy speaks the truth happy.gif


excellent weed . i say happy.gif

thats history chick, history u know nothing of...

during partition majority of pakistan were against creation of pakistan .. they either weanted to remain with India or a greater Pakhtunistan. sadly they were cheated into accepting pakistan.

so say the indian text books, i bet they also say majority of Pakistanis are waiting for india to come liberate them

break up pakistan and a greater pakhtunistan is only long term solution. happy.gif

that would work well in ur own shityard, exactly how many states have u got under separitist control again?

precisely the reason why pakis were lynched on streets of kabul as soon as talibananas were smoked out happy.gif

the northerns took power by american backing and they never were pro Pakistan anyway and exactly the reason they were forced out to live miserable lifes up in north mountains until uncle sam came liberating their sorry butts

and precisely why no indian dared set foot in afghanistan until the uncle yanky escorts arrived
i would like to see a single indian on afghani soil the day the nato have left



india is a power but in india only and may be in nepal and bhutan, for the rest its a shityard better to keep away from and keep troops on borders to keep em out
your uncles in west need your shityard to their bidding against china so u get some cookies for teh time being kids, nothing to be happy about...















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Re: POLL: Who is the greatest threat to security in Asia?

November 17 2010, 5:16 AM 

"politics and so on...This has nothing to do with the war on terror but then again you wont believe that, will you? simply because you dont want to as you are happy in believing otherwise... "

You do know that terrorism is effectively political violence, right?


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Re: POLL: Who is the greatest threat to security in Asia?

November 17 2010, 11:13 PM 

^ oh and i thought it had everything to do with religion nowadays ...













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