RightuousSoul posted this in the ME forum, thought I'd post it here too, for those interested.

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ZzSVcxqmGs

 

 

Interesting video. Makes you think if the ayatollahs were not in power iran would have been a far better country.

Having said that I would like to know if the channel who made this documentary is iranian or foreign?

I LOL'd at the end of the video when the sikh guy says 'we are happy and pleased with the govt'. Irrespective of whether its true or not, its looked a little odd and superficial to me that they include it in the video. Then i checked the newsagency.Good' ol Press TV never misses the chance to polish the regime's image. LOL


FN, the video is from Press TV Global, the Iranian state owned media !

In a broader context, there is also growing interest in Hinduism in Iran.As per at least one account, Hinduism of the New Age Vareity (Sri Sri Ravi Shanker, Mahesh Yogi, Rajneesh, Sai Baba) are growing in popularity in Iran.Before 1979 Islamic revolution, International Soceity of Krishna Consiousness (ISKON) even used to have their Iranian chapters to cater to their Iranian devotees.They were shut down after 1979.There are still many Iskon followers in Iran but they meet in secret today.


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its PressTV iranian state tv

If its a state run channel then forgive me for being sceptical. State run channels the world over have a partisan attitude and portray their own as the best. In India also we have a few examples.

Interesting video. Who can doubt the religious tolerance in the IRI?

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"The chief aim of all government is to preserve the freedom of the citizen. His control over his person, his property, his movements, his business, his desires should be restrained only so far as the public welfare imperatively demands. The world is in more danger of being governed too much than too little. It is the teaching of all history that liberty can only be preserved in small areas. Local self-government is, therefore, indispensable to liberty. A centralized and distant bureaucracy is the worst of all tyranny. Taxation can justly be levied for no purpose other than to provide revenue for the support of the government. To tax one person, class or section to provide revenue for the benefit of another is none the less robbery because done under the form of law and called taxation." John W. Davis, Democratic Presidential Candidate, 1924. Davis was one of the greatest trial and appellate lawyers in US history. He also served as the US Ambassador to the UK.

irans jews have said many times they live good under current regime despite outsiders image. so it counts the same with the sikhs. stop discrediting everything and just enjoy the video -

If I were an Iranian Jew, Aarif, I'd say whatever I thought I needed to say to safeguard my family in the IRI. To be fair, Iran is the only Muslim country in the Middle East not to expel its Jews. That does speak, at least to some extent of religious tolerance.

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"The chief aim of all government is to preserve the freedom of the citizen. His control over his person, his property, his movements, his business, his desires should be restrained only so far as the public welfare imperatively demands. The world is in more danger of being governed too much than too little. It is the teaching of all history that liberty can only be preserved in small areas. Local self-government is, therefore, indispensable to liberty. A centralized and distant bureaucracy is the worst of all tyranny. Taxation can justly be levied for no purpose other than to provide revenue for the support of the government. To tax one person, class or section to provide revenue for the benefit of another is none the less robbery because done under the form of law and called taxation." John W. Davis, Democratic Presidential Candidate, 1924. Davis was one of the greatest trial and appellate lawyers in US history. He also served as the US Ambassador to the UK.

after watching the video for few secs i relaxed.

they are sikhs all right , but they are arseholes bhapas. that is bhapa sikhs. its good that iran keeps them.

there are too many bhapa sikhs in punjab already and we dont want more motherfvckers.

in india they are found in delhi mostly, in haryana( ambala) and in punjab ludhiana.

if you ask me how i know they are bhapas , even a 6 year old child in punjab can tell the difference by looking at bhapa men. with women its difficult to tell the difference. but just 1 sentence of punjabi will show and identify their true rotten blood.

their race is most loothed in punjab , not only by jat or rajput or kashtriya sikhs but even by hindus. even low castes hate them.

common punjabi proverb--- 1 bhapa = soo( 100) seapa( trouble).

that is 1 bhapa is equal to 100 troubles.

@ jat - what exactly is a bhapa sikh?

jat yaar. they are sikhs too and many of them are good sikhs and live in rehat maryada and pray daily. although a lot of them dupe customers but even us jatt sikhs do that too. lets not divide sikhism more as its already divided.

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@fn...historicaly bhapas came from bhawalpur pakistan like hindu bhawalpurias( which are also loothed and hated like thier cousins sikh bhapas.

they migrated from pakistan from the reigon called pathohar mainly rawalpindi and bhwalpur.

in old days they were called patohari lumbad( fox).now they are called bhapas.

they became sikhs during ranjit singhs time and after the hard days for sikhs were over .

 

@jatt sardar. you can be lenient towards bhapas and muslims because you are from majha region which is the best reigon in punjab, vertualy deprived of bhapas and muslims.

but i live in malwa reigon( basicaly i am from majha as well-gurdaspur).some day i will settle there or near amritsar, but not in the city , too crowded.

patiala and ludhiana and chandigarh is crawling with bhapas and since childhood we are taught to hate them. its too late to change now.

now when we see bhapas in patiala or chandigarh we just spit on the ground. yes i agree they are very good sikhs. where bhapas live, their gurdwaras are in very good shape.

and i thought good about muslims until i started visiting malerkotla( in 1947 it was spared because of their good deed and the boon given to them by our 10th guru).

but if you visit that city for a couple of times you will hate muslims.

they are so arrogant and criminal. they would walk their redies in the middle of the raod and wont give way and if you blow horn and curse them whole horde of muslims would surround you with swords and lathis.

cops are also muslims and very biased towards sikhs and they do hate non muslims with passion.

they also chear paki cricket team during indo-pak cricket matches and if you cheer indian team they look  at you like they will murder you.

we spared that city in 1947 and now it has become little pakistan.

bhapas are no different, i have yet to come across a bhapa who is not a cheat or a dishonest man.

they give bad name to sikhs everywhere.

i went to mumbai and traveled a lot on auto-rickshaw and taxi.

i stayed there for months and only 2 persons cheated me . and guess what? he was damn bloody bhapa ji taxi driver. and the other 1 was bihari taxi driver.

otherwise i started to love marathi and gujrati people they are so honest and hard working and polite.

i would pick marathi or gujrati person anyday over bhapa or bihari or muslim.

hell i would pick marathi person over jats as well ,lol. marathis are the best indians. followed by gujratis and tamils and himachelis of course.

You are a total Idiot. Stigma for all punjabis and Sikhs if you are one, go get an education and learn something, leave your village mentality behind.

lol bhapa ji is now angry. i dont care if i make all bhapas angry. loothsome creatures.

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here is one good observation about bhapas.

http://www.jattworld.com/online/forum/freetalk/cheap-shot-jatt-history-and-culture-bhapas-and-their-radical-post-1984-version

A cheap shot at the Jatt history and culture by bhapas and their "radical post-1984 version of Sikhism

AND YOU MIGHT like this new vedio on jat vs bhapas  by bhotu shah, its funny ha ha ha .

look at typical bhapas  in the video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y5Si1JYrg2s

lol, i am not a bhapha, but thank you for proving my point. Please refrain from referring yourself as a Sikh, you have not a single clue what it stands for.

BTW people like Jassa Singh Allhuwalia, Prime Minister Manmohan Singh, heck the richest Sikh in the world, are all Bhapas, lol so where does this make people like you stand? Just huffing and puffing. Zero accomplishments. She people have done more to progress the name of Sikhi than anyone. So dont slander their name.

Learn to respect them, or else your just a fool like the pakistanis, beekering amoungst each other.

Also for your information, Bhapas consist of Ramgarias, Allhuwalias amoung many other Sikh tribes, it does not refer to the story you told. jat folk lore is just that, folk lore, not actual facts.

dude ur hatred towards sikhs is well known to me.

but what the hell are u smoking saying ramgariyas and ahluwalias are bhapas. dont insult them.

and manmohan singh, that arsehole is bhapa and his ill treatement of capt amrinder singh when capt refused to agree to accept that deal of longowal(traitor) with rajiv gandhi is well known. thank god longowal was buthered.

and about jats all major rulers of punjab from porus(saini) to ranjit singh and most sikh misls, plus major sikh leaders like baba deep singh and buda singh were all jats.

where were bhapas, where was daler mehndis tunuk tunuk tana na... lol that bhapas arse has been kicked so badly by jats in patiala that he has taken an oath to never set foot on punjab again.

has u taken some similar oath?????

bhapas are very good shop keepers and buisness men , maybe that why they were used to called lumbeds( lombri or fox) in ancient times.

they do make money by cheating , very good money.

so you are buisnessmen as well or shopkeeper perhaps.

bhapas should all leave punjab and go to delhi which is already overrun with them.

punjab is the land of hardworking people and not of tinkers and jokers and bhapas.

I dont believe in the regional stereotype practised in India, exception being the Biharis, but I have to disagree with jat regarding the tamils. I have been to Chennai once in 2005 and they give you very angry looks if you try speaking in Hindi. Being an Assamese, my hindi is not fluent, so i used to speak in english. But the hotel in which I was staying had a couple of hindi speaking guests and they were never answered if they talk in hindi.

A little bit of regionalism is everywhere in India, cant help it.

^ same in punjab man. you speak punjabi everyone will talk to you as if you are one of them. if you speak in hindi you will be called bawu ji or bhaiya ji depending on your dressing sense. bhapa sikhs are disliked by many probably cause they are usually shop owners and businessman and rob customers of money. they talk in patohari or pashto mixed punjabi in amritsar and their wear patka even when they are 50 year old. but these are all steriotypes. they can be very good n kind too.

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My hatred towards the Sikhs lol, you don't even know what it means to be a Sikh. Such bigotry only suites fools and a Sikh is never raised to be a fool. Staking claims as a group of people should leave and be discriminated against, sorry nor is this "Sikh" mentality or a "Intellectual" one. You only strengthen the "arrogant nature of Jatts " premise with your mannerisms. Bluntly patronizing a specific group of people for archaic stereotypes is pathetic. All those people you mentioned might be "Jatts" but they do not represent the "chest thumping" "huffing and puffing of formal glories" Jatts today. Those men were champions and the utmost gentlemen with respect and honor. Just look at the most prominent Punjabis today. Please come in terms with the times and leave this "village mentality" behind. This not a attack on anyone. I am being questioned for my hatred, but who here is spreading the hate? And please dont slander the name of "Sikhi" if you choose to stay in this state of mind.

@fn..... this love of mother tongue is everywhere, but i agree tamils do take that to extreme.i have lived in bangalore for more then 3 years. and i have learned that ,little bit flatternig never hurts.

learn some little language and its all good. not whole paragraphs( peew thats insane torture to the brain ). just these few sentences. they always work.

1....hello how are u are and hows family?

2....weather is so good today. ( dosent matter if its hot cold or rainy, you can say you love hot or cold or rain)

after these 2 senteces ask in hindi if you sentences were ok in whatever language.

then say.

3... ( most important line that always work magic)this language is so good , its like music , i so want to learn it( with tamil or othersouth india ,music is ok but not with haryavani, they wont digest that, so if haryanvi which sounds like donkey has a sore throat , say instead it is so powerful , and see haryanvis cheast widen 2 inches.)

say these 3 sentences with a grin from ear to ear. and  see dramatic improvement in that guys hindi.

by uttering these words you are feeding that guys love for his mother tongue and you have proven to him that you want to be nice to him and love his heritage.

so in return he will want to be extra kind to you.

this has always worked for me in south india ( tamil, kanada)and maharastra and in southern usa( spanish) and in canada , quebec( french).

 i kept a note written on papar then i memorise those sentences, i never was able to be utter them  right but the result was always good.

its human nature . people want to be nice but they are suspicious of starngers.

so flatter them outrageously.

but be sutle.

like saying to a girl  thats shes too smart to be flattered and bingo shes flattered.

or if you commit mistake and then try to make excuses then ur friend will try to find fault in you. but if instead you make a mistake then become so sorrowful and curse urself and become miserable that u will go into deep deep dipresion then same friend will find find ways to cheer u up and find excuse for you HIMSELF. i always found that part funny.

 

I wonder what Iran would be today without the MI6/CIA backed coup...

Probably not the situation they are in today...

Goes to show what happens when you think you're the good guy by essentially destroying a country over oil... was it worth the destabilized region we have to deal with today?

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I wonder what Iran would be today without the MI6/CIA backed coup...

Probably not the situation they are in today...

Goes to show what happens when you think you're the good guy by essentially destroying a country over oil... was it worth the destabilized region we have to deal with today?

For the first time I agree with you.

The US/ WEST was thinking they were doing a good thing, only to realise some 20 odd years later how big a mess they created.

@ jat - I agree, a little bit of flattery always helps. And LOL, I liked the way you described haryani language. hahahahahaha

and their wear patka even when they are 50 year old."""""""""""""""""""""""

thats the habbit of theirs which annoys me most.
they not only wear patkas which they shouldnt  , they wear patkas with butis and dots and very colourful, their patkas would put womens dress to shame.

and when they wear pag in that also their are multiple colors and dots and flowers.and the style they use to wear pag is disgusting.

and for patkas if they dont have time to wear pag they should at least wear parna. thats much more honorable then wearing patka. but bhapas see parna as typical old village type.
patka is for 5 year old kid not for 50 year old. and patkas with dots is for no age group.

this is how pag should be worn.

 

if no time then parna is good too.

 

 

BUT BHAPAS  when they wear pug they put dots in it.

like this.

and then their most annoying habbit of wearning patkas which is only suitable for ages 10 and under.

damn, you indians are funny looking with those girly hair dresses...lol

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