Genetics:
A 2003 study found that: "Y-chromosome haplogroups indicate that Indo-European-speaking Armenians and Turkic-speaking Azerbaijanians (of the Republic of Azerbaijan) are genetically more closely related to their geographic neighbors in the Caucasus than to their linguistic neighbors elsewhere."[76] The authors of this study suggest that this indicates a language replacement of indigenous Caucasian peoples. There is evidence of limited genetic admixture derived from Central Asians (specifically Haplogroup H12), notably the Turkmen, that is higher than that of their neighbors, the Georgians and Armenians.[77] MtDNA analysis indicates that the main relationship with Iranians is through a larger West Eurasian group that is secondary to that of the Caucasus, according to a study that did not include Azeris, but Georgians who have clustered with Azeris in other studies.[78]
The conclusion from the testing shows that the Caucasian Azeris are a mixed population with relationships, in order of greatest similarity, with the Caucasus, Iranians and Near Easterners, Europeans, and Turkmen. Other genetic analysis of mtDNA and Y-chromosomes indicates that Caucasian populations are genetically intermediate between Europeans and Near Easterners, but that they are more closely related to Near Easterners overall.
Re: Official: Azaris are NOT Turkic Oriental Chinese People
June 25 2009, 10:35 PM
That picture is Azeri?
Stupid idiot, how is Azeris like that?
Let alone appereance, look at the cloths, instruments.
Especially cloths.
This is Azeri, MORON.
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Re: Official: Azaris are NOT Turkic Oriental Chinese People
June 25 2009, 10:38 PM
The Oguz Turks moved to the Caucasus and Anatolia in the 10th and 11th century, two centuries before the mongol invasions started. The Turks Central Asia mixed with the Mongols, the Turks in Azerbaycan and Turkey didn't.
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Re: Official: Azaris are NOT Turkic Oriental Chinese People
June 25 2009, 10:45 PM
kafkaz azeri is parham u idiots. this fvcken idiot has an obsession with azeris and gets a hard on when people insult them so he goes around starting flames with others pretending he's azeri.
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June 25 2009, 10:49 PM
typical parham strategy drowning out people's comments with his crap
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kafkaz azeri is parham u idiots. this fvcken idiot has an obsession with azeris and gets a hard on when people insult them so he goes around starting flames with others pretending he's azeri.
Re: Official: Azaris are NOT Turkic Oriental Chinese People
June 25 2009, 10:49 PM
actually telling you facts about yourself, which btw, you try to deny does not mean we're obssesed with race, it's your fvcking disgusting inferiority complex of trying to pass off your people as a white is what's pathetic.
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"You should not be afraid of the ideology but of the determination and will of the men behind it"
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June 25 2009, 10:57 PM
Arash, this Turke khar isn't trying to claim he's Asiatic, he's trying to claim that Turkics or oghuz Turks were cockasians.... I don't know how more delusional you could get.
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"You should not be afraid of the ideology but of the determination and will of the men behind it"
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June 25 2009, 11:05 PM
Btw, one more thing I noticed is that northern azeris look alot different than southern Azeris to begin with.... Northern azeris look like a bunch of degenerate gypsy looking donkey rapists.
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"You should not be afraid of the ideology but of the determination and will of the men behind it"
Re: Official: Azaris are NOT Turkic Oriental Chinese People
June 25 2009, 11:14 PM
fightclub is a simple person, parham used to say how much he hates azeri people and the best way to bring people down is to pretend you're them and insult everyone. fightclub with his infinite wisdom falls for exactly that, it must suck being a fvcken idiot.
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June 25 2009, 11:18 PM
arash dude ur seriously slow what has that idiot said so far to make u actually think he's azeri. he just provoked u to insult fellow iranians i hope u feel proud. I dont feel like bringing down lurs today but its just as easy u guys arent exactly the pinnacle of iranian civilization. i wont because i give u more credit than that idiot fightclub and that faggot parham
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June 25 2009, 11:18 PM
Kia, Khar, you think everyone's Parham, you thought I was parham for over 2 years, lol.... I doubt he's Parham judging from his spelling and the way he talks.
Turkes are very simple minded people, hence, why we have so many jokes for them.... i thought all these things were just stereotypes and nothing more, until I actually talked and debated with some Turks.... These people will believe anything.
uneducated donkey fvckers.
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Re: Official: Azaris are NOT Turkic Oriental Chinese People
June 25 2009, 11:20 PM
The Oghuz (variously known as Ghuzz, Guozz, Kuz, Oguz, Ouz, Okuz, Oufoi, Ouz, Ouzoi, Torks, Uguz, Uuz, and Uz ) were a group of loosely linked nomadic Turkic peoples. In the ninth century the Oghuz Turks from the Aral steppes drove the Pecheneg Turks of the Emba region and the River Ural toward the west. In the tenth century they inhabited the steppe of the rivers Sari-su, Turgai, and Emba to the north of Lake Balkhash of modern day Kazakhstan. A clan of this nation, the Seljuks, embraced Islam and in the eleventh century invaded Persia, where it founded the Great Seljuk Empire.
Re: Official: Azaris are NOT Turkic Oriental Chinese People
June 25 2009, 11:20 PM
Kafkas, arash didn't create the thread out of nowhere, we were discussing the background of Azeris (whish is obviously non turkic) he just provided us with more facts.
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Re: Official: Azaris are NOT Turkic Oriental Chinese People
June 30 2009, 2:03 AM
Persian-Revenge idiot.
This is for you.
Like said, our lands old name was Caucasian Albania.
We use Aran today in Republic of Azerbaijan, but only for Southern region of Azerbaijan. You can't name whole Azerbaijan as Aran you dumbass, its just a southern region of Azerbaijan Republic.
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Re: Official: Azaris are NOT Turkic Oriental Chinese People
June 30 2009, 2:30 AM
Kafkos just did a wikipedia on that because the northern azaris dont know jack about their real past. Just what their brainwashed grey wolf wannabees tell them.
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June 30 2009, 4:00 AM
Kafkas the fake Azeri pimp,
I never denied Albania. I am denying the word Azerbaijan being used in the ancient time to refer to the territory north of the Aras river. The only real Azerbaijan lies south of Aras river. Your country bears a stolen name. How does that make you feel?
Read and learn:
A: Historically speaking, the territory in the Caucasus that lies to the north of the Aras river, was never called Azerbaijan until the year 1918. Giving it this name created difficulties in the first half of the 20th century and in the succeeding years, and these cannot be ignored. History, as well as the works of ancient geographers and Islamic writers bear witness to the fact that the land to the north of the Aras River, which is now known as Azerbaijan, was known before as Albania (Alban). Classical writers, such as Strabon and others, called this region Albania, Armenian, or Alvanak (Aghvanak), while Iranians called it Aran. Aliyov, a historian in the former Soviet Azerbaijan, in his article "Sources Relating the Ancient History of Caucasus's Albania", wrote that in the Parthian era, the eastern part of the Caucasus was called "Ardan". Greek materials referred to this place as "Albania". Barthold, the famous Soviet scholar, believed that in the Islamic era and, according to Arabic sources, this name has taken the forms of "Al-ran" or "Aran", which probably is a transformation of the ancient Parthian name "Ardan".
There is no reason to doubt that Aran was separate from Azarbaijan and that the Aras River constituted the northern border of Azarbaijan, and Aran had never been called Azerbaijan. The academician Barthold most clearly mentioned the Aras River as lying between Azarbaijan and Aran or the ancient Albania (Collected Works, Volume 7, Moscow, 1971, page 123).
Prior to the invention of the name Azerbaijan to designate Aran and Shirvan, Tzarist Russian sources recognized only one Azarbaijan, the true Azarbaijan. The first volume of the Russian Encyclopedia (pages 212 and 213), which was published in St. Petersburg some 102 years ago (in 1890), stated: "Azarbaijan, which was 'Aturpatekan' in Pahlavi and 'Azarbadekan' in Armenian, is the rich industrial northern province of Iran. It borders Iranian Kurdistan and Iraq of Adjam to the south, Turkish Kurdistan and Armenia to the west, Russian Armenia and the Southern Caucasus to the north. Its border is marked by the Aras River". Had the name Azerbaijan been used for the land to the north of the Aras, undoubtedly, this encyclopedia would have used the name "Russian Azerbaijan" just as it had used the designations "Turkish Kurdistan", "Iranian Kurdistan", "Turkish Armenia", or "Russian Armenia". It can easily be seen that only one Azarbaijan existed and that was the Iranian Azarbaijan.
Following the Bolshevik Revolution and the ensuing turmoil in the Russian empire, Turkish politicians of the time became intent on establishing a puppet state in the Caucasus. In 1911, a party named "Mossavat" (Equality) was founded in Baku, which was supported by the Ottoman Turks. It held a joint congress with Turkey's Party of Federalists in 1917. In this congress, the two parties united and called themselves the "Democratic Party of Turkish Mossavat Federalists". Their goal was to unite Turkish-speaking people under the umbrella of Turkey.
The Mossavatis set up a government on 27 May 1918, and called the area the "Azerbaijan Republic". Their capital initially was Gandjeh, but after the occupation of Baku by the Turkish army under the command of Noori Pasha on 15 September 1918, the capital was transferred to Baku and their government was consolidated through the support of the Turkish army. They ruled Aran and Shirvan, calling these areas collectively as the Azerbaijan Republic for two years. This situation continued until 28 April 1920, at which date the Bolsheviks attacked Baku and declared the area as a Soviet republic. The Soviets persisted in using the invented name, calling this territory the "Soviet Socialist Republic of Azerbaijan".
Barthold disclosed the reason for choosing to apply such a name. In page 782 of the second volume of his Collected Works, he noted: "The name 'Azerbaijan' was adopted because it was presumed that through the establishment of the Azerbaijan Republic, the Iranian Azarbaijan and the Azerbaijan Republic will eventually become one." As can be seen, the name 'Azerbaijan' was used with a specific goal that became manifest at a later period. Somewhere else in this same volume, Barthold wrote: "Wherever and whenever a name should be required with which one can refer to the whole region of the Azerbaijan Republic, one can use Aran" (page 703).
From the very beginning, the use of the name "Azerbaijan" for Aran met with the protests of Iranian patriots, including Sheik Mohammad Khiabani and his comrades. But since this naming had been carried out, the Democrats siding with Khiabani decided to change the name of Iran's Azarbaijan to "Azadistan" (land of freedom). This fact was clearly stated in Kasravi's book titled "The Unknown Kings", where he expressed surprise at the use of the name Azerbaijan to refer to Aran, writing: "Why are our Arani brothers destroying their national history and their past at the onset of their national life? This itself is an enormous loss and there is no other example of such a strange deed in history" (second printing, page 265).
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Re: Official: Azaris are NOT Turkic Oriental Chinese People
June 30 2009, 10:22 PM
Wow what a load of bull****, didn't we see dozens of Iranians die because of the elections ?
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He meant ethnically Iranians are less divided than people in Turkey, where etnicity is very important.
And the protests (That are still going on) aren't about the elections, they're about peopel fighting the regime as a whole Including Khamenei and mousavi etc... for a free Iran. Mousavi losing was used as a last straw for the islamic repub.
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Re: Official: Azaris are NOT Turkic Oriental Chinese People
June 30 2009, 11:34 PM
combat_mustard
Obviously you misunderstood me, probably because english is your second language i dont know.
But anyways like fightclub said. In Iran we are united as a peoples of different racial backgrounds.
In turkey u guys are having a racial civil war. Turkey is by no means fit to discuss division in a country. Especially since u guys are near one soon enough..
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June 30 2009, 11:58 PM
That is because their country is glued together thanks to their military and the disgruntment is due to decades of discrimination and Turkification. As soon as there is some sort of unrest in Turkey the country will fall apart.
Our regimes may come and go but we -the people- stick together and would even follow an Azeri or Kurd if he has the right message.
Re: Official: Azaris are NOT Turkic Oriental Chinese People
July 3 2009, 4:57 PM
And in the near future,
Iran will kick arses of Turkey, support Kurds and Armenians there and get back Azarbaijan , thus recreating the greater Iran. Next will be Uzbekistoons and Turkamens.
No hard feeling guys but you turks didn't achieved anything but just trying to imitate pathetically Europeans without succeeding even a little What could you do to Iran ? you don't differ much from Arabs )))))))
The greater Iran will rise again soon just wait and see ))))
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Re: Official: Azaris are NOT Turkic Oriental Chinese People
July 3 2009, 11:47 PM
Woovvv!!! Look at that excited boy Who is claiiming lots of his imaginations-wishes about Turkey. You really affected me boy!!! After all your above comments, I started worrying about the future of my nation... but I should ask you a question that How old are you ?
Joke a side, Turkey is not fighting with own civilzations. It is so easy to realise for an avarage person but It is also understood that I will try to communicate with some imbeciles who has not able to comment situations properly. When you fight with Pjak, You call yourselfs like "Iran is fighting with own civilsations" too ? Ok!!!
"Iran will kick arses of Turkey"
Why do you wait so long time to kick Turkish arses ? Do not confuse to making simple war propagandas with 1930 tech. copy weapon systems with fighting an army and defence industry which cooperates with global firms to develop (NATO) technologies to meet the requirements of foreign armed forces... but Interesting, A country which had fighted with Irak so long time but did not take any results are talking about vitory against Turkish army ? You must be crazy or a young boy...
and Before Changing your routes towards Turkey to kick our arses, I advise you to solve your problems with your common enemies such as Israel and USA.
and Some (Azeri origin) Iran civilzations, You should shame yourself. While some Iranian imbeciles are talking about taking back Azerbaijan lands again, You are talking about Pers nationalism and united publics... Interesting, You are even accusing free Azerbaijani people like a traitor. The God knows Who is traitor or not !!! It is understood that Assimilation with Mullah Fachism and Brainwashing activities gives positive results in Iran...
"you turks didn't achieved anything but just trying to imitate pathetically Europeans without succeeding even a little"
Expert of Turkish nation talks. What a great intelligent you have about Turkish nation. Rise up your head and try to see the World out of your narrow perspective. Turkey is a hard strong power of this region. Instead of making criticize about Turkish achievements, I advise you to assess your intelligence level before posting like those boyish comments...
This message has been edited by cabatli_53 on Jul 3, 2009 11:54 PM
Re: Official: Azaris are NOT Turkic Oriental Chinese People
July 4 2009, 2:34 AM
In terms of Iran creating a union that forms a "Greater Iran" with these countries, it will never happen, infact the closest thing we can get to a greater Iran/Persia is if we joined with Tajikestan and the Persian parts of Afghanistan, so focus on Iran instead of this delusional pan-Iranist garbage.
We should keep south Azerbeyjan, persify and assimilate the rest of the Azeris that need to be assimilated, and the Northern Azeris can go fvck their donkeys as much as they want, cause we don't want anything to do with those people.
Further more, Turkey should shut its fvcking mouth and worry about its Kurds who are fvcking like rabbits.
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Re: Official: Azaris are NOT Turkic Oriental Chinese People
July 4 2009, 10:20 AM
Imbecile, There is not any reason to worry about PKK's in Turkey. PKK terorist and Kurd civilzations are not same thing. I do not suppose but I hope You have enough capability to get it. Most of Kurd's like their countries, Turkey which is leading to this region but Instead of talking with easy propagandsit style, I advise you start worrying about Israel and USA. You know, Israel started making pressure your only market, Russia to not sell any of weapon system to Iran including S-300 so You started begging all World countries to order something about defence. USA is also watching you. Whenever they feel themselves ready to attack cause of Uraniun enrichement reasons or like similar things, They will activate the "5th article of NATO" with a simple lie "like they did for IRAK" to collect all NATO forces to attack on Iran so Instead of thinking more about Turkey, I advise you to start arming more and think How you can resque your fachist Mullah arses against USA and Israel...
If you do not want to meet like that air attack at a night suddenly, I advise you to avoid making Turks angry...
This message has been edited by cabatli_53 on Jul 4, 2009 10:31 AM
"If you do not want to meet like that air attack at a night suddenly, I advise you to avoid making Turks angry... "
That's the joke of the year... ))))))))))))))))))))))))
Turks attacking Iran... Well, after what? the first A bombs on their countries? Come on, Turkey will disappear even before the war with Iran starts. Supposing they can afford to start a war when they don't control the whole Anatolia...
As for Greater Iran, it'll happen. And quite soon I'm sure of that. Iran already controls Iraq, Syria, Lebanon and Afghanistan indirectly. Soon, its control there will be far greater and stronger.
Then next targets will be republic of Azerbaijan , the whole Afghanistan and Soviet remains in Central Asia (Usbekistoons, Turkmenistoons and Tajikistan). There are soo many cities to recover Marv, Eshghabad, Samarkand, Bukhara, Khojend, Balkh, Mazar-e-Sharif and Herat!
Whatever Turks think, it won't change the future, Iran is bound to recover its territories, and they won't be able to do anything except to ask for Europe's help and pity if Iran decides to finish turkey in the same shot.
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Re: Official: Azaris are NOT Turkic Oriental Chinese People
July 5 2009, 12:12 AM
^^^^^^^^^^^^ LOl, moron.... Care to explain why during the shah's time Iran had no seperatist ethnic groups? Why we weren't fighting in 4 provinces against seperatists? I know America and Isreal are behind these seperatists, but Iran was still united (Even more) during the reign of the Pahlavi dynasty, which was secular, democratic, and nationalistic.
So Keep your advice to yourself, Toork.
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Re: Official: Azaris are NOT Turkic Oriental Chinese People
July 5 2009, 12:32 AM
f!cking fool the seperatists in turkey also came in the 80s ( after 80s the islamists took the control in turkey ). the more media control the more thechnology the more imperialist backings then always a seperatist movement will come. don't forget it was the azeris together with persians wo raped the seculars. pkk is a secular communist organisation who rather would want a communist turkey instead of a islamic kurdistan. in the end it has always to do with ideology, if azeris in iran would be sunni instead of shya they would allready be devided.
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July 5 2009, 3:22 AM
2000+ years///////
2000 years???? Am I reading this right? looool
Kid.... 2000 years ago the word Turk didn't even exist because you were living in trees in Mongolia.
But then again we did and ruling the world. Go figure....
a secular iran would devide into 100 pieces
Been there. Done that. You seem to suffer from short memory syndromne. You forgot about Shah??
Bottom line is: our country has been around centuries longer than your fake country, you settlers. There is just no analogy.
I think you should be comparing yourself with countries like Yoguslavia rather than with ancient countries like Iran. You simply don't belong to our league kid.
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This message has been edited by Persian_revenge on Jul 5, 2009 3:28 AM
After all, they haven't achieved a **** and are only aspiring to come back to the state of Ottoman slaves of the Britons. )))))))))
Don't blame them for that they are born slaves... The future will show Iran with greater power and finishing its transformation to a civil led society, and greater borders at its disposal while the Torks will crawl for a few Dinars offered by the US master )))) and European donators )))))
If they **** with us, we'll simply send them back to Mongolia...
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Re: Official: Azaris are NOT Turkic Oriental Chinese People
July 5 2009, 7:48 PM
Look who talks... Jeune Tork that have last 2/3 of their territories and that are now trying to grasp cyprus )))))))))))))
Anyway. Iran will soon become the major superpower. Bear it. In the worse case, a radioactive smoke in Istambul and Ankara might show you the way to recognize the facts...
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Re: Official: Azaris are NOT Turkic Oriental Chinese People
July 5 2009, 9:36 PM
Superpower Iran army hopes to win a victory against Turkey ???
but How ?
With your old ex-Usa made transporter helicopters ?
with your old ex-USA made Cobra attack helos ?
With your new fliyng birds that you call them like light attack helicopter ?
With your so called National Tanks ? Is there anybody see a video While It is moving?
With your 1950's soviet aircrafts without any night capabilities?
With your N. Korean tec. ballistic missiles ?
With your 1940 tech. F-5 aircrafts ?
With your %30-40 Azerbaijan population ???
With your submarines which looks like a water barrel ?
How ???
Firstly, Lean something about military... A country which is not take any result against Irak is hopping a victory against Turkish army??? Yeahhh !!! You are really funny people.
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Re: Official: Azaris are NOT Turkic Oriental Chinese People
July 5 2009, 9:40 PM
I advise you to visit G/T forum to see How Turkish defence industry is improved against rivals such as crappy Iranian one... Maybe, It will help you to realise How Turkey will be the most powerful army of those region... You will realise the real mean of "Superpower of those region" intead of propagandist mean in G/T forum...
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July 6 2009, 4:22 AM
One question: do you honestly think it is an achievement to assemble western machinery or enjoy transfer of technology for soocking western Cooks? I think not. Again been there, done that...under the Shah. In the Seventies we were one of the strongest armies in the world while you were riding donkeys but we realised that it is all fake.
As I said you people are evolutionary decades behind us? You're stuck in an imposed secular era. Next is imposed Islamism before you could actually aspire democracy. Think about that... idiots.
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Re: Official: Azaris are NOT Turkic Oriental Chinese People
July 6 2009, 7:05 AM
poor guy....
You think that second hand german/french or US weapons will make you better than Iran????? Damn, you are confident. That explains why Turks never won a war in the last century... (no, oooops, I forgot the Armenian genocide. Sorry. My mistake...).
Iran makes its own weapons. That's the difference... You simply can't and you won't be able to do anything in the future except assembling wheels in your country. Bear it, industry isn't something typically Turkish
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Re: Official: Azaris are NOT Turkic Oriental Chinese People
July 6 2009, 8:22 AM
First of all,
Let me explain with some exaples What is the meaning of "assembly" defence industry;
-Integrating a new Russian engine to USA 1940' tech. AW-1P-S model Cobras to introduce like Iran made attack helicopter.
-Trying to re-assembly an Tank called "Zulfikar" using with fake design of USA Abram's and another soviet Tanks's sub-systems.
-Re-name N. Korean ballistic missile like Iranian made ballistic missile for your easy propagandas.
-Re-Assembly USA 1940 tech. F-5 planes with calling different name...
-Assmebly 5-10m water barrel and call it like Iranian future submarines...
-After an extensive meintance work for USA 1950 Hawk missiles, call them a new name to introduce like "Iranian middile range air defence missiles"...
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What a great defence industry Iran have.. You really affect me boys!!! As I said, If you really want to learn something more about Turkish defence industry, I honestly advise you to visit G/T forum to see How our defence industry are so improved... By 2015, Turkish nationl contribution will be %65-70 in our Armed forces... How can you think to reach above target with an assembly defence industry like you have ?
By the way, I claim that;
-Iranian defence industry can not be %10 of Turkish defence industry If the subject is technological level...
-If your criterias are the diversity of products to export, I advise you to visit official SSM Export portal to communicate SSM authorities to order something abour military... When you enter the site, You will see the tittle of product catalogues of Turkey at the left middile side of page... Under that tittle, You will see many section to use the areas of you need... When you clicked one of them, You will meet the name of Turkish institues which works same area to develop technology... You will meet lots of pdf. files, Videos, Pictures and detail introductiom articles about Turkish defence industry...
We are talking about a defence industry which is leading all those region with own technological level, not a defence industry which is trying to assembly something to make easy propagandas to save own arses against great powers of World...
By the way, Good begging to Russia to order S-300's...
Good visits to SSM export portal...
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Re: Official: Azaris are NOT Turkic Oriental Chinese People
July 6 2009, 11:48 AM
Someone should give those monobrows a reality check.
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Re: Official: Azaris are NOT Turkic Oriental Chinese People
July 6 2009, 11:51 AM
"As I said you people are evolutionary decades behind us? You're stuck in an imposed secular era. Next is imposed Islamism before you could actually aspire democracy. Think about that... idiots. "
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Muhaha yeah sure u idiot. And thats why u peasants were ruled by turks and turkish dynasties for centuries.
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Re: Official: Azaris are NOT Turkic Oriental Chinese People
July 8 2009, 9:12 AM
"yeah go on, come teach us something..."
We are not the teachers of WAFF... If you honestly wanna learn something, I advise you to start primery school level that appropriate with your menthal level... We are trying to talk about truths without any propagandist approach style... You mentioned "assembly" defene industry above, I tried to explain What is the meaning of "assembly" defence industry with showing some examples from your defence industry. That's all.
and Honestly, If you want to learn something about Turkish defence industry, Ask us with proper sentences or come to G/T forum to follow the latest developments of our defence industry closely... Then, You can realise What we are talking about.. Then, You will maybe start talking about truths instead of throwing claims from your arses about Turkey...
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July 8 2009, 6:17 PM
Is this thread still alive?
Don't response to those Perso idiots.
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Re: Official: Azaris are NOT Turkic Oriental Chinese People
July 9 2009, 5:56 AM
"You feel superior to Iran?"
No doubt about it... Especially every area of defence industry except ballistic missile technology... Turkey is also developing ballistic missiles. The analysis think that Turkey has already reached more than 500km now a days but There is not tangible results in visible except a missile that capable to reach up to 250(?)km which was developed in 2001 with Chine but In recent days, Turkish Roketsan has officially offered Turkish SSM (Undesecretariat of Defence industry) to develop a space rocket for Turkish indigenous spy and communication satellite projects until 2015... This offer can assist us to learn the capability level of Roketsan to develop ballistic missiles...
but If the subject is the smart guided missiles, high tech. Anti-Tank, Anti-personnel missiles, Air defence missiles, I can say that Turkey is way ahead of Iran at this sector of defence too... Please, Do not post the missiles of USA Hawk or similar foreign missiles to prove How your defence industry is superior against Turkish one...
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Current Topic - Official: Azaris are NOT Turkic Oriental Chinese People
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but you turks didn't achieved anything but just trying to imitate pathetically Europeans without succeeding even a little 
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