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Provost

Nothing in the world can take the place of persistence. Talent will not; nothing is more common than unsuccessful men with talent. Genius will not; unrewarded genius is almost a proverb. Education will not; the world is full of educated derelicts. Persistence and determination alone are omnipotent. The slogan 'Press On' has solved and always will solve the problems of the human race.

Calvin Coolidge, President of the United States 1924-1929

I can assure you, Pappa, that my name is neither Mike nor Randall. The MikePapa1 is my radio call sign and Provost is my job title in the State Guard, Provost Marshal General to be specific. I'll be happy to draft your contract, once y'all agree on terms.




Provost

Nothing in the world can take the place of persistence. Talent will not; nothing is more common than unsuccessful men with talent. Genius will not; unrewarded genius is almost a proverb. Education will not; the world is full of educated derelicts. Persistence and determination alone are omnipotent. The slogan 'Press On' has solved and always will solve the problems of the human race.

Calvin Coolidge, President of the United States 1924-1929

Then WHAT are you waithing for? You've just admitted that everything you can do in the West, you can can definately do in Iran. You have one year to get your things in order, learn the language (1 year should be more than enough) revoke your citizenship and you can be on your way. You do this, and you will receive funding for your ticket. What more do you want??

I don't know, read my initial post again - maybe with a bit more care this time, no? I already know the language - I want to learn it so well that I can get a decent job there when I set foot off the plane - right now with my english i can get a better job here than with my farsi in Iran. I actually want to learn it properly, it'll take more than that unfortunately. Once all my other issues are resolved aswell I will move. Don't you worry about giving me time limits, you just write the contract and send it along with the money to the lawyer as we've agreed to. Once you've written up the contract and have some money ready i will get in contact with a lawyer, give you his details and the exact fees airfare included, you can contact him and arrange the rest.

Randy I know your names not randall I was just kidding with you, you best start arranging this deal with koz now.

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And all of this controversy circles me
And it seems like the media immediately points a finger at me
So I point one back at 'em
But not the index or the pinky or the ring or the thumb
It's the one you put up when you don't give a ****
When you won't just put up with the bull**** they pull
Cause they full of **** too

I did read your post Papa. What you're saying is this: you don't really want to go back to Iran, because you handle living there. But should you win a lottery by any chance, and become a multi-millionair, you wouldn't mind owning a second house there. After all, a whole year isn't enough preparation time. You first have to learn the language (which seems odd considering your fanaticism), you need a job (not in Iran of course, but in the West), you have to finish your education (again not in Iran, but in the West), and you have a whole bunch of other issues that might never get resolved. You see Papa, you're never planning to go back, BUT should you decide to go on a holiday without first winning the lottery, you'd like us to pay for it. I hate to burst your bubble, but that's not going to happen. But at least you know the truth: you're not planning to go back.


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_{I contend that we are both atheists. I just believe in one fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours. -- Stephen Roberts}


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I see the jackals are circling.



a

Still better than being a parasite, right Abdullah?


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_{I contend that we are both atheists. I just believe in one fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours. -- Stephen Roberts}


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I did read your post Papa. What you're saying is this: you don't really want to go back to Iran, because you handle living there. But should you win a lottery by any chance, and become a multi-millionair, you wouldn't mind owning a second house there. After all, a whole year isn't enough preparation time. You first have to learn the language (which seems odd considering your fanaticism), you need a job (not in Iran of course, but in the West), you have to finish your education (again not in Iran, but in the West), and you have a whole bunch of other issues that might never get resolved. You see Papa, you're never planning to go back, BUT should you decide to go on a holiday without first winning the lottery, you'd like us to pay for it. I hate to burst your bubble, but that's not going to happen. But at least you know the truth: you're not planning to go back.

Whatever you say koz4k. I've been clear on this issue from the beginning - and that is that I can't do such a thing under a timeline. You're more than free to interpret that however you like, and you need not worry over me losing any sleep.

You offered to pay for the airfare being aware of the underlying issues preventing me from moving, made clear from my initial reply to mikepapa regarding my move. I agreed to your help, you bought up new conditions, I still stood by mine, now you're retracting the money. Fair enough, it's your money and I don't need it, but I don't see why you could not have made your above assessment earlier, even before offering financial assistance. This only leads me to believe you did not mean to help me, but just try and call out my bluff - well guess what? I called out yours.

Now that you've wasted my time, the only advice I can give you is this; take that head out of your ass that seems to be shoved so well in, and maybe just maybe you could do something more worthy with it other than go around the internet making bull**** offers to people you don't mean to follow through with. But hey, you're a lawyer I expect you to be full of sh*t. How fitting that mikepapa was your accomplice in this charade, he's one aswell.

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And all of this controversy circles me
And it seems like the media immediately points a finger at me
So I point one back at 'em
But not the index or the pinky or the ring or the thumb
It's the one you put up when you don't give a ****
When you won't just put up with the bull**** they pull
Cause they full of **** too

Hope you revoke your Australian citizenship and pay your Commonwealth placement back before you go.

Siege of Tobruk - One German POW said: "I cannot understand you Australians. In Poland, France, and Belgium, once the tanks got through the soldiers took it for granted that they were beaten. But you are like demons. The tanks break through and your infantry still keep fighting." Rommel wrote of seeing "a batch of some fifty or sixty Australian prisoners ... marched off close behind usimmensely big and powerful men, who without question represented an elite formation of the British Empire, a fact that was also evident in battle."


"As a Internet discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Nazis or Hitler approaches one."

Hope you revoke your Australian citizenship and pay your Commonwealth placement back before you go.

Don't you worry about my government placement, i'll pay it off along with the interest. One more reason why I don't operate under timelines. But I also have some hopes for you,

I hope one day you can learn to tolerate half of your countrymen and stop being racist and prejudiced towards them. I hope you can also learn to moderate your drinking and offer something more to this city than regurjetated meals and piss stained streets. I hope you can learn to be something more useful than an archeologist so maybe you could do something for Australia instead of digging up dirt for Egypt. I also hope you can learn to butt out of peoples conversations, when it clearly does not involve you.

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And all of this controversy circles me
And it seems like the media immediately points a finger at me
So I point one back at 'em
But not the index or the pinky or the ring or the thumb
It's the one you put up when you don't give a ****
When you won't just put up with the bull**** they pull
Cause they full of **** too

" I hope you can also learn to moderate your drinking"

lets keep this discussion civil shall we? no need for insults.

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http://www.republicbroadcasting.org/

"If we don't believe in freedom of expression for
people we despise, we don't believe in it at all."

-Noam Chomsky

Parasite you say?

Youd know wouldnt you?

a

PappaRage,

If you formally and verifiably renounce any non-Iranian citizenship or residency you might have, I will provide you with a business class ticket to Iran, from wherever you may reside. This is a real and firm offer.

Youd know wouldnt you?

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Of course, I didn't lose my respect for you without reason. It took a while, but I finally recognized the symptoms.


@ Papa, let us know when you've moved back.


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_{I contend that we are both atheists. I just believe in one fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours. -- Stephen Roberts}


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I think mr Alfred just wants Iranians to bash arabs, he is bored when this does not occur.

Alfred I sympathize.

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http://www.republicbroadcasting.org/

"If we don't believe in freedom of expression for
people we despise, we don't believe in it at all."

-Noam Chomsky

I hope one day you can learn to tolerate half of your countrymen and stop being racist and prejudiced towards them

My best friends are of Serb, Portuguese and Chinese backgrounds. But otherwise, where have I shown prejudice towards anyone but the Lebanese scum of Sydney?

I hope you can also learn to moderate your drinking and offer something more to this city than regurjetated meals and piss stained streets.

I just graduated from University and I don't hate this fine nation like you do but cherish what has given me (where my own ancestral homelands unfortunately lacks) and respect what people choose to do as my fellow citizens. These threads are a fine example of you being nothing more then another ungrateful hypocrite.

Hope you realise one day when you go to Iran, you'll be known as the 'Australian'. Also, unlike you, I speak fluent Polish, go figure, the irony of this all. But my drinking, on a Friday or Saturday night is recreational... of course you wouldn't understand that, you're out hating yourself.

I hope you can learn to be something more useful than an archeologist so maybe you could do something for Australia instead of digging up dirt for Egypt.

My dream was to be an Archaeologist, unfortunately, my father wanted me to do business and being Polish and of a culture that respects the father, I heeded to my fathers wishes.

Also, for someone claiming to be so proud of his Iranian heritage, built in ancient times and reflected in it's rich Archaeology and deep history, this reeks of irony once more. You'll find that many people appreciate more things in life then black and white.

I also hope you can learn to butt out of peoples conversations, when it clearly does not involve you.

I'm a citizen of the Australian Commonwealth. You don't like my nation and value another in it's place. My opinion is valid. I wish you'd revoke your Australian citizenship if you find such distaste in it.

If an American, a Dutchmen and a Swede can have an opinion on the matter, then surely your fellow countrymen should be allowed to as well.

Parasite you say?

Youd know wouldnt you?

Indeed, you are the greatest of them.

Siege of Tobruk - One German POW said: "I cannot understand you Australians. In Poland, France, and Belgium, once the tanks got through the soldiers took it for granted that they were beaten. But you are like demons. The tanks break through and your infantry still keep fighting." Rommel wrote of seeing "a batch of some fifty or sixty Australian prisoners ... marched off close behind usimmensely big and powerful men, who without question represented an elite formation of the British Empire, a fact that was also evident in battle."


"As a Internet discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Nazis or Hitler approaches one."

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http://www.republicbroadcasting.org/

"If we don't believe in freedom of expression for
people we despise, we don't believe in it at all."

-Noam Chomsky

Let's continue where we left off. Can you also show me where I said I am packing my bags please?

My last post to you before you stopped replying:

I did read your post Papa. What you're saying is this: you don't really want to go back to Iran, because you handle living there. But should you win a lottery by any chance, and become a multi-millionair, you wouldn't mind owning a second house there. After all, a whole year isn't enough preparation time. You first have to learn the language (which seems odd considering your fanaticism), you need a job (not in Iran of course, but in the West), you have to finish your education (again not in Iran, but in the West), and you have a whole bunch of other issues that might never get resolved. You see Papa, you're never planning to go back, BUT should you decide to go on a holiday without first winning the lottery, you'd like us to pay for it. I hate to burst your bubble, but that's not going to happen. But at least you know the truth: you're not planning to go back.

Whatever you say koz4k. I've been clear on this issue from the beginning - and that is that I can't do such a thing under a timeline. You're more than free to interpret that however you like, and you need not worry over me losing any sleep.

You offered to pay for the airfare being aware of the underlying issues preventing me from moving, made clear from my initial reply to mikepapa regarding my move. I agreed to your help, you bought up new conditions, I still stood by mine, now you're retracting the money. Fair enough, it's your money and I don't need it, but I don't see why you could not have made your above assessment earlier, even before offering financial assistance. This only leads me to believe you did not mean to help me, but just try and call out my bluff - well guess what? I called out yours.

Now that you've wasted my time, the only advice I can give you is this; take that head out of your ass that seems to be shoved so well in, and maybe just maybe you could do something more worthy with it other than go around the internet making bull**** offers to people you don't mean to follow through with. But hey, you're a lawyer I expect you to be full of sh*t. How fitting that mikepapa was your accomplice in this charade, he's one aswell.

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And all of this controversy circles me
And it seems like the media immediately points a finger at me
So I point one back at 'em
But not the index or the pinky or the ring or the thumb
It's the one you put up when you don't give a ****
When you won't just put up with the bull**** they pull
Cause they full of **** too

Yes, you've been very clear: you have no plans to go back. To sum it up:

1. You haven't taken a single step to repatriate.
2. You don't agree with a contract that ensures your repatriation.
3. You haven't given us your lawyers contact address.
4. You haven't agreed to a single condition that would reasonably give us a reason to believe you are serious about repatriation.
5. You can't explain the motives behind your repatriation.
6. You're a hypocrite who uses all the advantages of the West, while criticizing it. Etc, etc.


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_{I contend that we are both atheists. I just believe in one fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours. -- Stephen Roberts}


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1. You haven't taken a single step to repatriate.

I've taken many steps to repatriate

2. You don't agree with a contract that ensures your repatriation.

I've told you many times I can't work under a time limit given my situation

3. You haven't given us your lawyers contact address.

You haven't agreed to send any money for me to give a lawyers contact address to

4. You haven't agreed to a single condition that would reasonably give us a reason to believe you are serious about repatriation.

Just as you haven't given me a single condition that would give me reason to believe you are serious about sending money. Double standards.

5. You can't explain the motives behind your repatriation.

I've explaied them, you've failed to read them. I can go over them and add to them if you so wish.

6. You're a hypocrite who uses all the advantages of the West, while criticizing it. Etc, etc.

Where have I criticized the west and what have I said?

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And all of this controversy circles me
And it seems like the media immediately points a finger at me
So I point one back at 'em
But not the index or the pinky or the ring or the thumb
It's the one you put up when you don't give a ****
When you won't just put up with the bull**** they pull
Cause they full of **** too

Papa, I'm going to make this very simple:

Give us the contact address of your lawyer, so that we can send him a contract regarding your repatriation. This contract will ensure that you will leave Australia within a year and that you will revoke your Australian citizenship. After which, the funds for your airfare will immediately become available.

You have no excuses to reject these conditions. A year will be more than enough time for you to to learn the language after which you will become dependent on everything that the Islamic Republic has to offer you, such as a job or work.


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#Neda
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_{I contend that we are both atheists. I just believe in one fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours. -- Stephen Roberts}


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Papa, I'm going to make this very simple:

Give us the contact address of your lawyer, so that we can send him a contract regarding your repatriation. This contract will ensure that you will leave Australia within a year and that you will revoke your Australian citizenship. After which, the funds for your airfare will immediately become available.

You have no excuses to reject these conditions. A year will be more than enough time for you to to learn the language after which you will become dependent on everything that the Islamic Republic has to offer you, such as a job or work.

A contract has to be mutual does it not? It can not just be you who dictates everything. I have said I cannot work under timelines and given you the reasons why, have I not? Make the funds available to my lawyer along with a contract which states I get the money when I revoke citizenship and you have my aggreeance.

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And all of this controversy circles me
And it seems like the media immediately points a finger at me
So I point one back at 'em
But not the index or the pinky or the ring or the thumb
It's the one you put up when you don't give a ****
When you won't just put up with the bull**** they pull
Cause they full of **** too

The contract is more than mutual. What do we receive in return if you don't repatriate? Do we get money as well? No, of course not. Also, a time frame is necessary to ensure that you are serieus about your repatriation. We can't wait 10 years, so that you can take your sweet time milking everything Australia has to offer and then MAYBE repatriate. 1 Year is more than enough time to get your things in order.


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_{I contend that we are both atheists. I just believe in one fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours. -- Stephen Roberts}


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The contract is more than mutual. What do we receive in return if you don't repatriate? Do we get money as well? No, of course not. Also, a time frame is necessary to ensure that you are serieus about your repatriation. We can't wait 10 years, so that you can take your sweet time milking everything Australia has to offer and then MAYBE repatriate. 1 Year is more than enough time to get your things in order.

The contract is not mutual if you are saying I need a time limit and I am saying I cannot work under one. You just have to agree that I have set up my life here and I cannot just leave like that, there has to be preparations just like there were when we left Iran. We did not just do it under a year there either. It is not about milking everything australia has, my family and I are hard working people the only reason I don't have a job is because I was fired due to the recession. You send the money to my lawyer under this term or else don't and be labelled a liar.

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And all of this controversy circles me
And it seems like the media immediately points a finger at me
So I point one back at 'em
But not the index or the pinky or the ring or the thumb
It's the one you put up when you don't give a ****
When you won't just put up with the bull**** they pull
Cause they full of **** too

So basically, if you become terminally ill at the age of 90, and decide to go back to Iran where you can die, we should still pay your airfare. That's kinda stupid isn't it. And if I'd send you the money that would make me stupid as well. Not to mention it would make you a thief. The offer still stands, you accept it like a man, or chicken out.


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_{I contend that we are both atheists. I just believe in one fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours. -- Stephen Roberts}


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So basically, if you become terminally ill at the age of 90, and decide to go back to Iran where you can die, we should still pay your airfare. That's kinda stupid isn't it. And if I'd send you the money that would make me stupid as well. Not to mention it would make you a thief. The offer still stands, you accept it like a man, or chicken out.

You have my word it won't be at 90 when I'm terminally ill, it'll be much much quicker than that. Are you going to send my lawyer the money, who will pass it to me when citizenship is revoked, or not? Say no if you wish, I'm prefectly comfortable with paying my own airfares, it will just mean that you're not a man of your intial word.

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And all of this controversy circles me
And it seems like the media immediately points a finger at me
So I point one back at 'em
But not the index or the pinky or the ring or the thumb
It's the one you put up when you don't give a ****
When you won't just put up with the bull**** they pull
Cause they full of **** too

So basically, if you become terminally ill at the age of 90, and decide to go back to Iran where you can die, we should still pay your airfare. That's kinda stupid isn't it. And if I'd send you the money that would make me stupid as well. Not to mention it would make you a thief. The offer still stands, you accept it like a man, or chicken out.

With that train of thought I could also argue: So basically, if Iran is nuked multiple times by Israel in the time where I am preparing to leave and have guaranteed to do so, I should still leave even though I would die of radiation poisoning?

My offer also still stands, and has stood from the beginning, before you even made yours. Accept it like a man, or chicken out.

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And all of this controversy circles me
And it seems like the media immediately points a finger at me
So I point one back at 'em
But not the index or the pinky or the ring or the thumb
It's the one you put up when you don't give a ****
When you won't just put up with the bull**** they pull
Cause they full of **** too

You have my word it won't be at 90 when I'm terminally ill, it'll be much much quicker than that. Are you going to send my lawyer the money, who will pass it to me when citizenship is revoked, or not? Say no if you wish, I'm prefectly comfortable with paying my own airfares, it will just mean that you're not a man of your intial word.

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Again yes, but not without guarantees. If you simply give me the contact information of your lawyer I will send him the contract. The contract will ensure that you will leave Australia within a year and that you will revoke your Australian citizenship. After which, the funds for your airfare will immediately become available. NOTE: you can't be forced to revoke your Australian citizenship, but we can ensure that you are only entitled to the money if you revoke your Australian citizenship and repatriate. Both within a year.


With that train of thought I could also argue: So basically, if Iran is nuked multiple times by Israel in the time where I am preparing to leave and have guaranteed to do so, I should still leave even though I would die of radiation poisoning?

My offer also still stands, and has stood from the beginning, before you even made yours. Accept it like a man, or chicken out.

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Those situations are completely incomparable. The time frame ensures that you will leave Australia within a reasonable period. While if Iran get's nuked, the living conditions will become unreasonably risky for most people. In other words, we wouldn't expect you to go back under those conditions, BUT we do expect you to go back under the current conditions (conditions that are changing by the way).

But as I have stated before, you are not planning to go back. Somewhere in the back of your head, you're wondering what it would be like to go back. But there is no concrete plan, there is drive or motivation. Just a hollow dream.


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_{I contend that we are both atheists. I just believe in one fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours. -- Stephen Roberts}


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I am willing to give you my lawyers contact details if you send him money to hold that is not bound by a time limit. I will not recieve this money if I do not revoke citizenship and move. I don't see any reason to guarantee anything to you, that is what the lawyer is for. Whenever you want your money back, so long as it is not after I have revoked citizenship, just tell me or the lawyer you have withdrawn your offer and he will send it back. That is all.

For now I consider you a liar because you have not agreed to send me any money under my intial and still withstanding conditions that you were fully aware of before offering money.

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And all of this controversy circles me
And it seems like the media immediately points a finger at me
So I point one back at 'em
But not the index or the pinky or the ring or the thumb
It's the one you put up when you don't give a ****
When you won't just put up with the bull**** they pull
Cause they full of **** too

So what you are saying is that you want infinite time, but if and when you decide that you are ready to repatriate, I should pay for it? I admit that I'm stupid with money, but I'm not that stupid.


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_{I contend that we are both atheists. I just believe in one fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours. -- Stephen Roberts}


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So what you are saying is that you want infinite time, but if and when you decide that you are ready to repatriate, I should pay for it? I admit that I'm stupid with money, but I'm not that stupid.

I have said what I've said from the beginning. It is you who have come in knowing this and offered me an airfare nevertheless, which I was open to. I never suggested to you or anyone I would agree to your late added conditions, so it is your problem not mine.

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And all of this controversy circles me
And it seems like the media immediately points a finger at me
So I point one back at 'em
But not the index or the pinky or the ring or the thumb
It's the one you put up when you don't give a ****
When you won't just put up with the bull**** they pull
Cause they full of **** too

So you agree. You don't have any plans for repatriation. It's more like a fantasy that you have.


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#Neda
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_{I contend that we are both atheists. I just believe in one fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours. -- Stephen Roberts}


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Haha, don't try and put this on me liar, you're the one who backed out.

I am willing to give you my lawyers contact details if you send him money to hold that is not bound by a time limit. I will not recieve this money if I do not revoke citizenship and move. I don't see any reason to guarantee anything to you, that is what the lawyer is for. Whenever you want your money back, so long as it is not after I have revoked citizenship, just tell me or the lawyer you have withdrawn your offer and he will send it back. That is all.

For now I consider you a liar because you have not agreed to send me any money under my intial and still withstanding conditions that you were fully aware of before offering money.

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And all of this controversy circles me
And it seems like the media immediately points a finger at me
So I point one back at 'em
But not the index or the pinky or the ring or the thumb
It's the one you put up when you don't give a ****
When you won't just put up with the bull**** they pull
Cause they full of **** too

Papa, repeating yourself won't make your right. Everything you are saying has been addressed already. To the point:

"Papa, I'm going to make this very simple:

Give us the contact information of your lawyer, so that we can send him a contract regarding your repatriation. This contract will ensure that you will leave Australia within a year and that you will revoke your Australian citizenship. After which, the funds for your airfare will immediately become available.

You have no excuses to reject these conditions. A year will be more than enough time for you to to learn the language after which you will become dependent on everything that the Islamic Republic has to offer you, such as a job or an education. "

The above conditions are necessary to ensure that your fantasy becomes a reality. I repeat, you are not being payed for your vacation, you are not being payed for your experiment, you are being payed to repatriate.


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_{I contend that we are both atheists. I just believe in one fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours. -- Stephen Roberts}


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I am willing to give you my lawyers contact details if you send him money to hold that is not bound by a time limit. I will not recieve this money if I do not revoke citizenship and move. I don't see any reason to guarantee anything to you, that is what the lawyer is for. Whenever you want your money back, so long as it is not after I have revoked citizenship, just tell me or the lawyer you have withdrawn your offer and he will send it back. That is all.

For now I consider you a liar because you have not agreed to send me any money under my intial and still withstanding conditions that you were fully aware of before offering money.

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And all of this controversy circles me
And it seems like the media immediately points a finger at me
So I point one back at 'em
But not the index or the pinky or the ring or the thumb
It's the one you put up when you don't give a ****
When you won't just put up with the bull**** they pull
Cause they full of **** too

I didn't read the whole thread, but Papa why can't you work under a time constraint?



When I was young I used to pray for a bike, then I realized that God doesn't work that way, so I stole a bike and prayed for forgiveness.

Papa, we've been over this a million times. You're not receiving any funding until we have a set of guarantees regarding your repatriation:

<sub>"Papa, I'm going to make this very simple:

Give us the contact information of your lawyer, so that we can send him a contract regarding your repatriation. This contract will ensure that you will leave Australia within a year and that you will revoke your Australian citizenship. After which, the funds for your airfare will immediately become available.

You have no excuses to reject these conditions. A year will be more than enough time for you to to learn the language after which you will become dependent on everything that the Islamic Republic has to offer you, such as a job or an education. "

The above conditions are necessary to ensure that your fantasy becomes a reality. I repeat, you are not being payed for your vacation, you are not being payed for your experiment, you are being payed to repatriate.</sub>

Also, a) you don't have a lawyer and b) even if you did, why would I send any money to him? But I'll play along, does your lawyer have a website?


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_{I contend that we are both atheists. I just believe in one fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours. -- Stephen Roberts}


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Is it smart to do this by his lawyer? Wouldn't it be better to do this by notary?



When I was young I used to pray for a bike, then I realized that God doesn't work that way, so I stole a bike and prayed for forgiveness.

@ Eric

It certainly would be smart thing to do. But he's not planning to go back. He's just trying to have the last word.


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I didn't read the whole thread, but Papa why can't you work under a time constraint?

You have to read from the start before the offer was even made by mikepapa to understand eric. They are not going to pay anything, they're trying to make a point but the problem is they can't if I actually am planning to return once the issues are resolved.

hey a$$hole, i can underline aswell

I am willing to give you my lawyers contact details if you send him money to hold that is not bound by a time limit. I will not recieve this money if I do not revoke citizenship and move. I don't see any reason to guarantee anything to you, that is what the lawyer is for. Whenever you want your money back, so long as it is not after I have revoked citizenship, just tell me or the lawyer you have withdrawn your offer and he will send it back. That is all.

For now I consider you a liar because you have not agreed to send me any money under my intial and still withstanding conditions that you were fully aware of before offering money.

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And all of this controversy circles me
And it seems like the media immediately points a finger at me
So I point one back at 'em
But not the index or the pinky or the ring or the thumb
It's the one you put up when you don't give a ****
When you won't just put up with the bull**** they pull
Cause they full of **** too

Papa, I don't care what you think of me because I know deep down you love me. What I do care about on the other hand are a reasonable set of conditions that ensure your repatriation.

As I have said many times before you have no excuses to reject these conditions. A year will be more than enough time for you to to learn the language, after which you will become dependent on everything that the Islamic Republic has to offer you, such as a job or an education.

Does your lawyer at least have a website?


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_{I contend that we are both atheists. I just believe in one fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours. -- Stephen Roberts}


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Is it smart to do this by his lawyer? Wouldn't it be better to do this by notary?


We'll do it with a notary then, you'd think a lawyer who is willing to send money for my airfare would tell me these things. Oh wait I forgot I'm dealing with a liar here.

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And all of this controversy circles me
And it seems like the media immediately points a finger at me
So I point one back at 'em
But not the index or the pinky or the ring or the thumb
It's the one you put up when you don't give a ****
When you won't just put up with the bull**** they pull
Cause they full of **** too

Papa, I don't care what you think of me because I know deep down you love me. What I do care about on the other hand are a reasonable set of conditions that ensure your repatriation.

As I have said many times before you have no excuses to reject these conditions. A year will be more than enough time for you to to learn the language, after which you will become dependent on everything that the Islamic Republic has to offer you, such as a job or an education.

Does your lawyer at least have a website?

Once you agree to my terms, which have remained the same from the beginning, I will find and give you the necessary details of a notary. Forget the lawyer, we're doing it with a notary now.

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And all of this controversy circles me
And it seems like the media immediately points a finger at me
So I point one back at 'em
But not the index or the pinky or the ring or the thumb
It's the one you put up when you don't give a ****
When you won't just put up with the bull**** they pull
Cause they full of **** too

Papa, you will need a lawyer for the contract. Unless of course you will handle it yourself. Also, it is the duty of YOUR lawyer to notify you of things like a notary.

But I still don't have your lawyers contact information.


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_{I contend that we are both atheists. I just believe in one fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours. -- Stephen Roberts}


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Once you agree to my terms, which have remained the same from the beginning, I will find and give you the necessary details of a notary. Forget the lawyer, we're doing it with a notary now.

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You have no terms, other than that you require INFINITE time to get your things in order. If and when that happens, you want us to pay for your airfare. That's pretty stupid of course, but you need stupid terms if you're not planning to go back.


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_{I contend that we are both atheists. I just believe in one fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours. -- Stephen Roberts}


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You have no terms, other than that you require INFINITE time to get your things in order. If and when that happens, you want us to pay for your airfare. That's pretty stupid of course, but you need stupid terms if you're not planning to go back.

I have said what I've said from the beginning. It is you who has come in knowing this and offered me an airfare nevertheless, which I was open to. I never suggested to you or anyone I would agree to your late added conditions, so it is your problem not mine.


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And all of this controversy circles me
And it seems like the media immediately points a finger at me
So I point one back at 'em
But not the index or the pinky or the ring or the thumb
It's the one you put up when you don't give a ****
When you won't just put up with the bull**** they pull
Cause they full of **** too

Papa, you will need a lawyer for the contract. Unless of course you will handle it yourself. Also, it is the duty of YOUR lawyer to notify you of things like a notary.

But I still don't have your lawyers contact information.

Ok, no problemo. Lawyer and a notary whos fees you shall cover.

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And all of this controversy circles me
And it seems like the media immediately points a finger at me
So I point one back at 'em
But not the index or the pinky or the ring or the thumb
It's the one you put up when you don't give a ****
When you won't just put up with the bull**** they pull
Cause they full of **** too

I have said what I've said from the beginning. It is you who has come in knowing this and offered me an airfare nevertheless, which I was open to. I never suggested to you or anyone I would agree to your late added conditions, so it is your problem not mine.

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When did I offer you airfare just because I like you? Show me.


Ok, no problemo. Lawyer and a notary whos fees you shall cover.

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So you are agreeing with the one year term? Because you wouldn't need a lawyer and notary otherwise.


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_{I contend that we are both atheists. I just believe in one fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours. -- Stephen Roberts}


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When did I offer you airfare just because I like you? Show me.

You like me? I dunno koz i'm not really into that whole man on man thing. I know you're an atheist and all with loose morales, but jeez.. comeon.

I never actually said you offered me an airfare because 'you like me'. I don't know what you're talking about anyway.

So you are agreeing with the one year term? Because you wouldn't need a lawyer and notary otherwise.

You're offering the money now so i'm going to need a notary to hold it until my issues are resolved. How am I to know you'll send me money when I'm ready, overseas contracts won't assure anything especially if you change address, or die.

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And all of this controversy circles me
And it seems like the media immediately points a finger at me
So I point one back at 'em
But not the index or the pinky or the ring or the thumb
It's the one you put up when you don't give a ****
When you won't just put up with the bull**** they pull
Cause they full of **** too

You like me? I dunno koz i'm not really into that whole man on man thing. I know you're an atheist and all with loose morales, but jeez.. comeon.

I never actually said you offered me an airfare because 'you like me'. I don't know what you're talking about anyway.

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I'm sorry, I didn't know you were gay. But I'll put it differently: where did I offer you to pay for your airfare without setting any conditions?


You're offering the money now so i'm going to need a notary to hold it until my issues are resolved. How am I to know you'll send me money when I'm ready, overseas contracts won't assure anything especially if you change address.

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That's why we need a contract: to prevent future conflicts. And I'm not going to give you money unless I have guarantees that you will repatriate.

Do you really not understand this? Because I really don't know how to put it more simply.


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_{I contend that we are both atheists. I just believe in one fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours. -- Stephen Roberts}


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FoI'm sorry, I didn't know you were gay. But I'll put it differently: where did I offer you to pay for your airfare without setting any conditions?


I didn't say this I said you added conditions later, whereas my conditions were essentially clear from the start before you even offered money, which leads me to believe you never planned to send any money hence why I consider you a dirty liar.

That's why we need a contract: to prevent future conflicts. And I'm not going to give you money unless I have guarantees that you will repatriate.

Do you really not understand this? Because I really don't know how to put it more simply.

Not my problem. I can live without your money, you are the one who offered it knowing my intial and still withstanding conditions.

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And all of this controversy circles me
And it seems like the media immediately points a finger at me
So I point one back at 'em
But not the index or the pinky or the ring or the thumb
It's the one you put up when you don't give a ****
When you won't just put up with the bull**** they pull
Cause they full of **** too

I didn't say this I said you added conditions later, whereas my conditions were essentially clear from the start before you even offered money, which leads me to believe you never planned to send any money hence why I consider you a dirty liar.

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What were my initial conditions and what conditions did I subsequently add?


Not my problem. I can live without your money, you are the one who offered it knowing my intial and still withstanding conditions.

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You want the money, it is your problem. And as I've stated before, you have no real conditions. Your so called "condition" of infinite time is necessary because you are not planning to go back. No semi-intelligent human being would agree to such a condition and no serious person would set it.


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_{I contend that we are both atheists. I just believe in one fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours. -- Stephen Roberts}


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Which were my initial conditions and subsequently which conditions did I add later?

In your first post regarding this whole thing you said you were willing to help with the airfare along with mike who had replied to my post about the issues keeping me from returning right now, offering to help. Having offered to help, in reply to such a post, how can your intial condition be a 1 year limit, if the post clearly shows that I could not do such a thing under one year?

You want the money, it is your problem. And as I've stated before, you have no conditions. Your so called "condition" of infinite time is because you are not planning to go back. No semi-intelligent human being would agree to such a condition and no serious person would set it.

No, it is your problem if you offer to help me knowing the issues holding me back, but then withdraw your offer, liar.

I'm off now, look forward to continuing this with you, hopefully you will man uyp and have that money ready to send to the lawyer/notary.

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And all of this controversy circles me
And it seems like the media immediately points a finger at me
So I point one back at 'em
But not the index or the pinky or the ring or the thumb
It's the one you put up when you don't give a ****
When you won't just put up with the bull**** they pull
Cause they full of **** too

In your first post regarding this whole thing you said you were willing to help with the airfare along with mike who had replied to my post about the issues keeping me from returning right now, offering to help. Having offered to help, in reply to such a post, how can your intial condition be a 1 year limit, if the post clearly shows that I could not do such a thing under one year?

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First of all, I do not speak for Mike, I speak for myself. Secondly, I've never offered to help you without the guarantee that you will repatriate. Finally, you need the ridiculous condition of infinite time because you are not planning to go back: you love the country, as long as you don't have to live there.


No, it is your problem if you offer to help me knowing the issues holding me back, but then withdraw your offer, liar.

I'm off now, look forward to continuing this with you, hopefully you will man uyp and have that money ready to send to the lawyer/notary.

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How is it my problem you put a foot in your big mouth by claiming that you were planning to repatriate? I will tell you this again: you will get the money as soon as I have a guarantee that you are man enough to repatriate. Infinite time is not a serious condition.


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_{I contend that we are both atheists. I just believe in one fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours. -- Stephen Roberts}


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So basically this genius wants other people to send over let's say two grands and freeze it for an indefinite period of time (which could be years or decades) until he decides WHEN he wants to return to paradise?
,meanwhile others pay for legal fees involved as well.
If 10 years from now you take your money back (he hasn't left Australia) Rageagainstpapa can show up on WAFF and claim "I won the argument"!
LOL

This thread was meant to show that YOU will not return to your supposed paradise and insist to remain a perpetual leach to the "corrupt" Australian society even if your airfare was paid for.
By all means it accomplished that and more!

I asked you an straight forward question;

I asked you;
"Can I ask you why you dislike Australia so much?"

And this is ALL you had to say about it (in its entirety)

You replied;
"I love australia, who said I dislike it? The people are pretty laid back and you can go out on the street to see promiscuous drunk girls in miniskirts with half their ass hanging out, titties almost showing. Which man doesn't like that? But I love Iran even more, I love it so much I want my sisters to keep their dignity."

So you love Australia,not because of its Freedom of the press or expression,not because of its Universities and colleges,not because of its culture,arts,literature..,not because it gave your family a shelter,not because it gave you an education,not because it gave you a future .....
No!!
You love Australia because you can "see promiscuous drunk girls in miniskirts with half their ass hanging out, titties almost showing".
Wow,what a revelation!

You ask " Which man doesn't like that?"
I tell you which man,a man who's complaining about the lack of religion in the West,a man who bitches about the corruption in his adopted country.
Which man?
A man who says he loves Iran because it's not corrupted like Australia!

And do you know which man would like it?
A hypocrite who doesn't really give a shiite about religion and corruption.A hypocrite who doesn't even know jack about the regime he's defending,despite never living under it or even properly speak the language of its people!
How pathetic you are really?
But why would a person who admits enjoying the vises of the West,persist in defending this regime?!!
Here's a clue,
"But I love Iran even more, I love it so much I want my sisters to keep their dignity."

I can keep on busting you up time after time but you'd keep returning with some sorry arse excuse,what's the point?
You did more damage by exposing yourself,you're turned into a laughing stuck now.

Last few weeks,you showed to everyone that your support for the regime is not based on any strong religious conviction(your statement above as example),neither it is based on a political conviction(you continuously criticized actions that define the Islamic republic and its leaders past or present such US embassy take over),nor its based on any personal experience(You've never even lived,study,worked...under a regime you support).
Everyone can see you for what you are,
a little scared misfit in Melbourne.

First of all, I do not speak for Mike, I speak for myself. Secondly, I've never offered to help you without the guarantee that you will repatriate. Finally, you need the ridiculous condition of infinite time because you are not planning to go back: you love the country, as long as you don't have to live there.

funny you say that you don't speak for mike.. your posts seem to suggest it is a collaborative effort. Here is an example

"Papa, I'm going to make this very simple:

Give us the contact address of your lawyer, so that we can send him a contract regarding your repatriation. This contract will ensure that you will leave Australia within a year and that you will revoke your Australian citizenship. After which, the funds for your airfare will immediately become available.'

I've never offered to give you a timelimit for my repatriation, not from the start and not now so I don't even know why you offered your assistance if you were not ready to agree to this term. I can only draw the conclusion that you did not expect me to return therefore were lyiing inorder to prove a point.


How is it my problem you put a foot in your big mouth by claiming that you were planning to repatriate? I will tell you this again: you will get the money as soon as I have a guarantee that you are man enough to repatriate. Infinite time is not a serious condition.


It is not your problem, that's the whole point. It is infact none of your business when I return, just that I will return. I said this from the start, but you're the one who came in and offered assistance knowing my conditions. If you cannot properly read, that is not my problem. But I know you can read, it's just that you're a liar.

Surena dear, I didn't read your post you are too dumb for me to debate with. You say I am the one who keeps returning to you but you are the one here who is butting in with your usual nonsense. What is the point of me debating you, you are like the pakistani soccer team.

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And all of this controversy circles me
And it seems like the media immediately points a finger at me
So I point one back at 'em
But not the index or the pinky or the ring or the thumb
It's the one you put up when you don't give a ****
When you won't just put up with the bull**** they pull
Cause they full of **** too

Ok surena I read your post, I thought I might as well see what you had to say. You are trying to paint a completely false picture of me for the forum, which I feel I should rectify, so here goes.

So basically this genius wants other people to send over let's say two grands and freeze it for an indefinite period of time (which could be years or decades) until he decides WHEN he wants to return to paradise?
,meanwhile others pay for legal fees involved as well.
If 10 years from now you take your money back (he hasn't left Australia) Rageagainstpapa can show up on WAFF and claim "I won the argument"!
LOL

I don't want anyone to send any money to me, the keyword here is want. I am only taking them up on their offer, their money is not going to change my situation nor influence how fast I can move back. I will return whether I have your 2 grand or not. Remember, it is kozak who offered knowing my conditions, I only accepted. If he withdraws his offer or adds these conditions to it, I am inclined to believe he must not be genuine on it.

This thread was meant to show that YOU will not return to your supposed paradise and insist to remain a perpetual leach to the "corrupt" Australian society even if your airfare was paid for.
By all means it accomplished that and more!

You are right in that it was never designed to see me recieve any money. It was deceitful, a lie and thus makes koz4k a liar. I will return once I have addressed my own issues, therefore it has not accomplished in making any points.

I asked you an straight forward question;

I asked you;
"Can I ask you why you dislike Australia so much?"

And this is ALL you had to say about it (in its entirety)

You replied;
"I love australia, who said I dislike it? The people are pretty laid back and you can go out on the street to see promiscuous drunk girls in miniskirts with half their ass hanging out, titties almost showing. Which man doesn't like that? But I love Iran even more, I love it so much I want my sisters to keep their dignity."

So you love Australia,not because of its Freedom of the press or expression,not because of its Universities and colleges,not because of its culture,arts,literature..,not because it gave your family a shelter,not because it gave you an education,not because it gave you a future .....
No!!
You love Australia because you can "see promiscuous drunk girls in miniskirts with half their ass hanging out, titties almost showing".
Wow,what a revelation!

I am only a man and I will not apologise to you for being attracted to the female body. I like Australia for different reasons, because of my australian friends, because of the landscape, because of their sense of humour and tendancy to be laid back. I favour Iranian and islamic culture, arts and literature more. Of course I am not fluent in farsi therefor can not yet read something like divane hafez and make sense of it, but with help of others, translations, careful analysis I have come to appreciate it.

The 'shelter, education and future' as you have put it has come at too high a price for me personally, to be very gratious for it. All I can say in this matter is I have been subjected to alot of racism throughout my life here, and so has my family. Infact I have watched my mother be spat on because she chose to wear a veil during the month of ramadan, and she has not done so again because of that. The way I see it is I could have got an education, a shelter and future in Iran without having being subjected to this.

When I said I love australia for the girls I was trying to make the point that something you may enjoy does not always mean it is right. I'm sorry you could not read between the lines.

You ask " Which man doesn't like that?"
I tell you which man,a man who's complaining about the lack of religion in the West,a man who bitches about the corruption in his adopted country.
Which man?
A man who says he loves Iran because it's not corrupted like Australia!

Only if they're homosexuals. It is natural for a man to be attracted to the female body. How else is he meant to get it up? lol

And do you know which man would like it?
A hypocrite who doesn't really give a shiite about religion and corruption.A hypocrite who doesn't even know jack about the regime he's defending,despite never living under it or even properly speak the language of its people!
How pathetic you are really?
But why would a person who admits enjoying the vises of the West,persist in defending this regime?!!
Here's a clue,
"But I love Iran even more, I love it so much I want my sisters to keep their dignity."

Of course, indecent exposure corrupts the mind. How am I to escape the these things if they are all around me, especially at a younger age? If I'm naturally attracted to the female body, then the female should learn to dress modestly should she wish not to be seen in a sexual way. Society has a profound effect on a person. Infact I have heard stories of even the most religious people be turn corrupt after migrating.

I can keep on busting you up time after time but you'd keep returning with some sorry arse excuse,what's the point?
You did more damage by exposing yourself,you're turned into a laughing stuck now.

Last few weeks,you showed to everyone that your support for the regime is not based on any strong religious conviction(your statement above as example),neither it is based on a political conviction(you continuously criticized actions that define the Islamic republic and its leaders past or present such US embassy take over),nor its based on any personal experience(You've never even lived,study,worked...under a regime you support).
Everyone can see you for what you are,
a little scared misfit in Melbourne.

I never said I am perfect, but I have a set of political beliefs which I firmly hold onto; some of which reflect the lessons I have learnt as a result of my own mistakes and misdeeds in life, some of which may not be a reflection of my own personal experience, and some of which may come as a reflection of my understanding of history as it applies to iran and islam. Whatever it may be it has won my support for Irans government and I make no apologies to you for it. So you can keep bashing me all you like but it is neither going to change my beliefs nor make me post any less on the forum. In fact it will encourage me to post more and more.

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And all of this controversy circles me
And it seems like the media immediately points a finger at me
So I point one back at 'em
But not the index or the pinky or the ring or the thumb
It's the one you put up when you don't give a ****
When you won't just put up with the bull**** they pull
Cause they full of **** too

As for freedom in australia, what if one wants to smoke marijuana? What if I one wants to walk naked in the street? What if one wants to announce their support for bin laden? What happens then?

The point I am making is that some restrictions, although opposed to by some, are there to protect us. Again, as a result of personal experience, I don't see the veil as impeding the freedoms of a woman in iran, but in fact protecting her dignity from the prying eyes of a man.

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And all of this controversy circles me
And it seems like the media immediately points a finger at me
So I point one back at 'em
But not the index or the pinky or the ring or the thumb
It's the one you put up when you don't give a ****
When you won't just put up with the bull**** they pull
Cause they full of **** too

Typical lying refugees all ways making promise and breaking. If they will have ask me I will say no i do not want youre moneys because all ways they will have some things attach which they make up in the last minute.

I should have said no. His offer was nothing but a big fat lie.

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And all of this controversy circles me
And it seems like the media immediately points a finger at me
So I point one back at 'em
But not the index or the pinky or the ring or the thumb
It's the one you put up when you don't give a ****
When you won't just put up with the bull**** they pull
Cause they full of **** too

They are not having any honor they will lie in there Mothers face if they can.

Ok surena I read your post, I thought I might as well see what you had to say. You are trying to paint a completely false picture of me for the forum, which I feel I should rectify

Well I'm glad you changed your mind.I also liked how you used my Soccer analogy.You know what they say "Imitation is the highest form of flattery".

You're partly correct.I'm trying to show a real picture of what you're really all about to other members here.You see, personally I don't care or value your opinion let alone trying to change it.I do not see you capable of a real debate either.This wasn't me debating you,this was basically me discrediting and marginalizing you as a regime supporter by getting as much information from you as possible(BTW thanks for your co-operation) and to show why you support the regime,that's all!

This forum is not accessible from Iran (thanks to your backward regime),all that it's important for me is to show a true picture of this murderous regime to people from other countries and the type of people who support it.

This is what we learned from you so far,

1-You support the regime in Iran.

2-You were brought to Australia as a 6 year old refugee by your family fleeing the regime in Iran.You've lived in Australia ever since.

3-Your knowledge of Iran is limited to a few short trips,news clips,possible English books...You can't speak or read the language Farsi properly.You've never lived,worked,studied in Iran.It's obvious that your support for the regime can't be based on your personal experience.

4-You like "promiscuous drunk girls in miniskirts with half their ass hanging out, titties almost showing" which is absolutely fine,really! Except that it's the exact opposite of what you condemn the West for!
Young Iranian have to face barbaric treatments at the hands of regime thugs for crimes such as mixed partying or dancing but you enjoy "promiscuous drunk girls" with impunity(and you like it)!
In any case your own words clearly show that your support for the regime can not be religiously based.
(You don't have to explain WHY you feel attracted to the opposite sex,drugs or other stuff.My aim is only to show that you DO and therefore you can't be supporting a regime which preaches the opposite!)

5-Your political views of events such as the embassy takeover clearly shows that your support for the regime is not based on your political conviction.
First you said that the embassy takeover was STUPID,then you said that Khomeini was against it but had to go along with it because Iranian people wanted it(Which basically means,Iranians were stupid and Khomeini followed the stupids and pretended to be the bigger stupid!).Try expressing your opinion of the embassy takeover in your local Basij/Pasdaran headqurter's next time you travel to Iran and see what happens!

6-When confronted with the question of why you don't go back to Iran,you mentioned the fact that you were broke and were saving money for the ticket.
You were offered an all paid ticket JUST to expedite your return.This wasn't a late added condition or last minute clause,the WHOLE point was to get you to Iran as soon as possible and you knew that very well.
To dance around the issue for days was really really pathetic and dishonest!
Everyone could see that (Well except for Titanium,he's a very UNTYPICAL refugee,not like all other typical refugees).

What was your reply?"send the money over,pay the bills and I'll decide when I'm good and ready to go.I can't tell you when because I can't work under a time frame!"
You see everyone knew you won't go back,everyone knows you would never go back.Again this was to discredit you and I must say it was a complete success.You can call other people liars all you want but the damage has already been done.You refused to renounce your Australian citizenship and return to Iran despite your continuous rhetorics.

7-You sound very conflicted,on one hand you're attracted to the West for what it has to offer you,on other hand you blame the West for rejecting you.To retaliate you seek an identity 180 opposite.
You sound bitter about you and your family's life in Australia and the racism you had to face.This may or may not be true but that's a totally different subject to discuss,what's important is that it explains your current political stand.

8-Looking at the type of people who support any individual could say a lot.Your views are now supported by Titanium,Christianzionkiller,aslan..and are opposed by Niroo,Fariborz,Koz4k,Chossmelli,provost!!

You see the picture?
What are we left with?

10-A young man,born oversees but raised in Australia,feeling confused and rejected by his adopted society,he sees himself and his family as victims of racism.He seems to love and hate Australia at the same time.He's unemployed and under a lot of financial pressure.He seems to be defending the regime in his native country,in an apparent attempt to bolster a fragile and damaged ego,not based on any real convictions.Indeed his support for the regime has no real value and can not be taken seriously,even he doesn't believe in it,clearly evident by his refusal to return!

You can get the last word all you want,get ten last words if you want,it won't make a damn difference now.Everyone can see the truth and no amount of last words can obscure it.Up till now people thought you held true beliefs but no more.
There is a Farsi proverb you might be interested to learn,it goes like this;

Ta mard sokhan nagofteh bashad-----------eib o honarash nahofteh bashad

You can get the last word all you want,get ten last words if you want,it won't make a damn difference now.Everyone can see the truth and no amount of last words can obscure it.Up till now people thought you held true beliefs but no more.

No, you can have the last word if you want kako. This is not the issue for me, for me it was to address your questions, defend my beliefs and point out the flaws in your argument - and I've done that. You are entitled to your opinion of me, and I can even understand the anger with which you direct it. But I am not here to defend my character to you no anyone else as I don't believe you or anyone knows me well enough to be able to pass such certain judgement on it. As it stands that is your opinion, and I see it as fruitless to try and delve into that area as in your mind anyone who supports the regime is wrong. I understand the reason behind that is due to the personal loss and suffering you have endured in life, you, a person who joined the basij and defended his country was locked up and tortured and his life changed permanently as result because his cousin was affiliated with a certain group. It was your cousin, so why should you have had suffered? That is TOTALLY understandable and I can see why you would attack those that don't share your view of the country. I hope one day you can set your emotions aside and we could hopefully get along.

All the best for now hamvatan.

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And all of this controversy circles me
And it seems like the media immediately points a finger at me
So I point one back at 'em
But not the index or the pinky or the ring or the thumb
It's the one you put up when you don't give a ****
When you won't just put up with the bull**** they pull
Cause they full of **** too