Israeli drive to prevent Jewish girls dating Arabs

A local authority in Israel has announced that it is establishing a special team of youth counsellors and psychologists whose job it will be to identify young Jewish women who are dating Arab men and rescue them.

The move by the municipality of Petah Tikva, a city close to Tel Aviv, is the latest in a series of separate and little discussed initiatives from official bodies, rabbis, private organisations and groups of Israeli residents to try to prevent interracial dating and marriage.

In a related development, the Israeli media reported this month that residents of Pisgat Zeev, a large Jewish settlement in the midst of Palestinian neighbourhoods in East Jerusalem, had formed a vigilante-style patrol to stop Arab men from mixing with local Jewish girls.

Hostility to intimate relationships developing across Israels ethnic divide is shared by many Israeli Jews, who regard such behaviour as a threat to the states Jewishness. One of the few polls on the subject, in 2007, found that more than half of Israeli Jews believed intermarriage should be equated with national treason.

Since the states founding in 1948, analysts have noted, a series of legal and administrative measures have been taken by Israel to limit the possibilities of close links developing between Jewish and Arab citizens, the latter comprising a fifth of the population.

Largely segregated communities and separate education systems mean that there are few opportunities for young Arabs and Jews to become familiarised with each other. Even in the handful of mixed cities, Arab residents are usually confined to separate neighbourhoods.

In addition, civil marriage is banned in Israel, meaning that in the small number of cases where Jews and Arabs want to wed, they can do so only by leaving the country for a ceremony abroad. The marriage is recognised on the couples return.

Dr Yuval Yonay, a sociologist at Haifa University, said the number of interracial marriages was too small to be studied. Separation between Jews and Arabs is so ingrained in Israeli society, it is surprising that anyone manages to escape these central controls.

The team in Petah Tikva, a Jewish city of 200,000 residents, was created in direct response to news that two Jewish girls, aged 17 and 19, were accompanying a group of young Arab men when they allegedly beat a Jewish man, Leonard Karp, to death last month on a Tel Aviv beach. The older girl was from Petah Tikva.

The girls involvement with the Arab youths has revived general concern that a once-firm taboo against interracial dating is beginning to erode among some young people.

In sentiments widely shared, Mr Hakak, a spokesman for Petah Tikva municipality, said Russian girls, young Jewish women whose parents arrived in Israel over the past two decades, since the former Soviet Union collapsed, were particularly vulnerable to the attention of Arab men.

Dr Yonay said Russian women were less closed to the idea of relationships with Arab men because they did not undergo the religious and Zionist education to which more established Israeli Jews were subject.

Mr Hakak said the municipality had created a hotline that parents and friends of the Jewish women could use to inform on them.

We cant tell the girls what to do but we can send a psychologist to their home to offer them and their parents advice, he said.

Motti Zaft, the deputy mayor, told the Ynet website that the municipality was also cracking down on city homeowners who illegally subdivide apartments to rent them cheaply to single Arab men looking for work in the Tel Aviv area. He estimated that several hundred Arab men had moved into the city as a result.

Petah Tikvas hostility to Arab men mixing with local Jewish women is shared by other communities.

In Pisgat Zeev, a settlement of 40,000 Jews, some 35 Jewish men are reported to belong to a patrol known as Fire for Judaism that tries to stop interracial dating.

Unusually for a settlement, Pisgat Zeev has attracted a tiny but growing population of Arab families, both from East Jerusalem and from inside Israel. Because Pisgat Zeev sits within Jerusalems municipal borders, Arabs with Israeli residency rights can live there as long as Jewish settlers are willing to rent to them.

One member, who identified himself as Moshe to the Jerusalem Post newspaper, said: Our goal is to be in contact with these girls and try to explain to them the dangers of what theyre getting themselves into. In the last 10 years, 60 girls from Pisgat Zeev have gone into [Palestinian] villages [in the West Bank]. And most of them arent heard from after that.

He denied that violence or threats were used against Arab men.
Last year, the municipality of Kiryat Gat, a town of 50,000 Jews in southern Israel, launched a programme in schools to warn Jewish girls of the dangers of dating local Bedouin men. The girls were shown a video titled Sleeping with the Enemy, which describes mixed couples as an unnatural phenomenon.

Haim Shalom, head of the municipalitys welfare department, is filmed saying: The girls, in their innocence, go with the exploitative Arab.

In 2004, posters sprang up all over the northern town of Safed warning Jewish women that dating Arab men would lead to beatings, hard drugs, prostitution and crime.
Safeds chief rabbi, Shmuel Eliyahu, told a local newspaper that the seducing of Jewish girls was another form of war by Arab men.

Both Kiryat Gat and Safeds campaigns were supported by a religious organisation called Yad Lachim, which runs an anti-assimilation team publicly dedicated to saving Jewish women.

According to its website, the organisation receives more than 100 calls a month about Jewish women living with Arab men, both in Israel and the West Bank. It launches military-like rescues [of the women] from hostile Arab villages in co-ordination with the police and army.

The Jewish soul is a precious, all-too-rare resource, and we are not prepared to give up on even a single one, says the website.
http://www.thenational.ae/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20090925/FOREIGN/709249932/1138

Sounds Nazi-esque. Shame its only a local council rather then the state.

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Israel's vile anti-miscegenation squads

When the police lend support to vigilante groups hounding Jewish-Arab couples, what hope is there for coexistence?

Whilst the proliferation of ultra-orthodox "vigilante police" is a stain on Israeli society, their Taliban-esque actions can at least be contextualised as the inevitable consequence of religious fundamentalism gone wild. Such communities are dominated by leaders who refuse to accommodate any form of modernisation or freedom of thought into their archaic systems of governance, and the emergence of "modesty squads" is simply a manifestation of such primitive and patriarchal thinking.

Regardless of the reasons behind their appearance, the groups should not be tolerated by Israel's leaders, as they contravene the most basic human rights of the state's citizens. Israeli lawmakers have a duty to clamp down hard on the mobs' extrajudicial activities, in order to prevent a localised problem spreading from isolated religious strongholds into the rest of the country's towns and cities.

Yet the ultra-orthodox enforcers have good reason to challenge any efforts to rein in their sheriff's posses, given that the example set by several Israeli municipalities implies that what is sauce for the religious goose is sauce for the secular gander. While the local authorities in Petah Tikva, Kiryat Gat and elsewhere aren't sanctioning all-out violence against girls deemed behaving inappropriately, their modus operandi is no different in intent and the targets of their self-righteous rage no more deserving of punishment than the girls in Meah Shearim opting out of the ultra-restrictive dress code.

According to reports in the Israeli press:

A special team in the youth department of the Petah Tikva municipality will locate [Jewish] girls in the habit of meeting with men from minorities and will assist them 'The problem of minority men is well-known,' said the chief of the youth department, Moshe Spektor. 'Our attempts to deal with this problem are real and sincere. The municipality is making an effort to examine the matter in co-operation with the police'.

Of course, the minority in question is the Arab community rather than any of the Jewish minorities in Israel such as those hailing from Ethiopia, Russia or South America since it is the spectre of intermarriage between Jews and gentiles which is the cause of such abject fear among diehard Israeli nationalists, both religious and secular alike. As reported in Ha'aretz, Kiryat Gat's state-sanctioned anti-miscegenation programme's sole aim is preventing Jewish girls from becoming romantically involved with Israeli Bedouin:

The programme enjoys the support of the municipality and the police, and is headed by Kiryat Gat's welfare representative, who goes to schools to warn girls of the "exploitative Arabs". The programme uses a video entitled "Sleeping with the Enemy," which features a local police officer and a woman from the Anti-Assimilation Department, a wing of the religious organisation Yad L'ahim, which works to prevent Jewish girls from dating Muslim men.

Many Jews in Israel and the diaspora frown upon the idea of their children marrying out of the flock, some even going as far as cutting their children out of their wills and mourning them as though they had died should they take a non-Jewish partner for a spouse. While this is by no means restricted to the Jewish faith, the idea of such proscriptions being incorporated at state level whether against Jews, Muslims or any other category of "undesirables" is racism reminiscent of the dark days of segregationist America and pre-enlightened European states.

This week, the Times carried an illustrative and disturbing feature on the Israeli phenomenon, demonstrating the unabashed bigotry of those behind the purity patrols:

[David's] group, which works with police, goes by several names, including Fire for Judaism, is composed of up to 45 men and funded by private donations. Members say they are fighting a 'growing epidemic' of Arab-Jewish dating and spend as many hours as they can on patrol.

Similar groups have formed across the country ... In Pisgat Ze'ev, the growing number of Arab-Jewish couples is seen as the result of more Jewish settlements in Arab east Jerusalem.

'The problem is always with Jewish girls dating Arab men. The Arab guy comes and buys them things, treats them well. They fall for it. They can't see what they are doing,' says David.

The article goes on to describe a car chase, which ensues after David spots a "problem couple" driving in a car full of Arab men. He follows them through winding mountain roads, before taking down the car's number plate and reporting the incident to police.

That the police would even deign to co-operate with such poisonous and prejudiced characters and their fantasies of racial purity is indicative of the malaise gripping certain sectors of Israeli society, both at street and state level.

Whatever the more blinkered supporters of Israel's sectarianism say, day after day more evidence piles up attesting to the shocking reality behind Israel's mask of being a tolerant, equitable and democratic "country of all its citizens". The likes of the modesty patrols and the anti-miscegenation squads belong in the furthest recesses of history, yet apparently the Israeli authorities are not only happy to tolerate their presence, but to actively support their work as well.

Were the shoe to be on the other foot, with Jews singled out for such base racial discrimination, the same people supporting such behaviour now against Arabs would rightly be up in arms and demanding justice in the name of the persecuted. But, of course, this is Israel, and therefore somehow "different" and "unique" the standard retorts of those unable to defend Israeli crimes with any semblance of rational debate. And while they continue banging their drums to drown out any criticism of the Israeli state, at ground level the divisive and destructive behaviour continues, and another nail is driven into the coffin of coexistence in the Holy Land.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisf...h-arab-couples

whats the matter jewish boys not good enough?...


may they r turning gay...... but i think indian men should turn gay it would reduce their population

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muslims do even worse, they honour kill, honour rape and make the whole family outcast unless they stone their own family member to death.

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if you want your question answered , click on the link and read some of the comments .

It is a rather foolish venture, whenever you tell someone they can't do something or if it is taboo they will be tempted.

But at the same time, the Israelis are in a population race with the Arabs, it may seem unethical but there is not a lot of room for error.

Btw Arsenal cute girl in your sig. What's her name?

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But it is fine for Arab nations to keep Israeli's from even visiting those countries, not to mention barring entry to foreigners that have visited Israel in the past, right?

The hypocrisy of Arabs is beyond my ability to understand.

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what about arab jews or isrealis of Iranian/Persian decent? There are lots of Jewish Iranians in isreal, what are they hated too?

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"Btw Arsenal cute girl in your sig. What's her name?"


her name is keeley hazell .if you want (i suspect you will ) to see more pics of her then visit this site

http://www.onlinegooner.com/index.php

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"The girls involvement with the Arab youths has revived general concern that a once-firm taboo against interracial dating is beginning to erode among some young people. "

Loved that bit, in effect they are saying that "we can't have the youth of today not continue our old (in some cases ancient) biases and prejudices...", it is almost as funny as when onlinegooner.com says "Keely in the new Arsenal shirt"...when she is clearly out of the shirt in two of the pictures! What is this world coming to!

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some jewish girls are pretty..can wait to have one..heheh

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There are about 20.000 Turks working in Israel.
Let's say half of them were hidden Jews, what about Israeli girls and the Muslim Turks ?
Do they get well with one another ?

Coalde thanks for your argument. I agree the Arabs still don't have a right to point any fingers. However we are trying to prove our moral superiority and I doubt such programs are widespread.

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"Coalde thanks for your argument. I agree the Arabs still don't have a right to point any fingers. However we are trying to prove our moral superiority and I doubt such programs are widespread."

No problem, however I also believe that the last Israeli PM that demonstrated any sort of vision was Rabin, the ensuing ones were petty men, squabbling about in the dirt for a few shekels or illusory personal power and gratification. 15 years is a long time to go without a real leader but somewhat understandable given the proportional representation system that Israel faces...but then again so was the election of Hamas, primarily due to the ineptitude and corruption of Fatah under Arafat (in my mind anyway).

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...Arab males are Alpha Ones while Jewish ones are bunch of pansies!

"If we do [what Hezbollah accomplished], this Israeli army full of gay soldiers and full of corruption and with old-fashioned war methods can be defeated also in Palestine."

This is a good move and it will protect Israeli women from being mislead by vile muslims. On Ali Sina's Faithfreedom site forum(he is an Iranian apostate from Islam) there are several posters who are non-muslim women who married muslim men. When they were dating these men acted much like a Westerner would in his treatment of women, but when they were married the men morphed into their traditional role as despot of the wife and isolated them inside the house, hit them, etc.

Here is some data and proof:

QUOTE ("Quran Surah")

004.034 SHAKIR: Men are the maintainers of women because Allah has made some of them to excel others and because they spend out of their property; the good women are therefore obedient, guarding the unseen as Allah has guarded; and (as to) those on whose part you fear desertion, admonish them, and leave them alone in the sleeping-places and beat them; then if they obey you, do not seek a way against them; surely Allah is High, Great.

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More than third of Turkish women justify beatings by husband: poll ANKARA, Oct 21 (AFP) - ... The survey found that 39 percent of women in Turkey believe their husbands are right to beat them for at least one of the following reasons: burning the meal, disputing the opinion of their husbands, spending money unnecessarily, neglecting the children or refusing to have sex. In rural areas, 57 percent of women said their spouses had a right to batter them in at least one of the above circumstances. Arguing with the husband topped the list of justified reasons for domestic violence, followed by too much spending and the negligence of children. The poll was conducted among 8,075 married women by Ankara`s Hacettepe University and was funded by the European Union and the Turkish government. ...

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