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Iran announces new stealth fighter jets

April 19 2010 at 8:33 AM

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Iran announces new stealth fighter jets

TEHRAN, July 16 (UPI) -- Iran is building a new line of stealth fighter jets, the head of the Iranian air force announced Wednesday.

The new jets are just one of a group of military improvements that include new tanks and an electro-optical surveillance system that functions as a backup for radar, the Fars News Agency reported.

Brig. Gen. Ahmad Mighani told Press TV the new fighter jets would be able to prevent any violation of Iranian air space.

"We have upgraded our air force fleet, radar systems and missile systems over the past few years, and we are now ready to counter any threat," Mighani said.

Iran has threatened to counter-attack if Israel launches an air strike aimed at its nuclear facilities.
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Re: Iran announces new stealth fighter jets

April 19 2010, 8:43 AM 

An Iranian member at Pakistan forum had told that "Iranian stealth fighter will fly more than 2 Mach speed at every conditions and will be much more capable aircraft than F-22"


After I saw this claim, I realised that Propaganda is everything for Iran !!!

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Re: Iran announces new stealth fighter jets

April 19 2010, 9:29 AM 

Did they finish the old one?


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Re: Iran announces new stealth fighter jets

April 20 2010, 3:55 AM 



Black paints do not make plane to be stealths.




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Re: Iran announces new stealth fighter jets

April 20 2010, 9:41 AM 

LOL buddy... you just keep making fun...and you'll get shocked by Iranian technology again.

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Re: Iran announces new stealth fighter jets

April 20 2010, 3:42 PM 


I am not making fun just I am telling you non bias opinon most of this technologys is being copy from 1960 technology. Also stealth is having to do with shape of the plane which make the radar wave to bounce of the plane black paints do not make it stealth dumby.

Also you learn how to make nuclear technology from Pakistan show you should not be trying to show off also even after you tell to IEAE like backstabbing.

Also you should not trying to compare with Turkey

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Re: Iran announces new stealth fighter jets

April 20 2010, 4:26 PM 

Sorry buddy, wasn't actually talking to you there.
You are a lost cause....

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Re: Iran announces new stealth fighter jets

April 20 2010, 4:53 PM 


Hadi sorry you are being lost cause because you think you are being superpower. You all ways acting like you can beat any country military even USA and Russia and China.

Now I will give you some construcutve criticsims not making fun.


This look like jet trainer not stealth jet. You need to make bigger air plane also do not just paint it with special black paints it do not make it stealth. You have to learn some thing about airodymanic physics and aerospace engineering.
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This the only plane you make from scratch but still it look exactly like F5 with extra tails wing. Extra wing do not make it new technology still this F5 copy plane is being 50 year old airodynamic technology.
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I do not know what other thing you make except baby sumbarine and baby tank which all ways being carry on trailer.
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April 20 2010, 6:00 PM 

LOL... no need to waste my time here.

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Re: Iran announces new stealth fighter jets

April 20 2010, 6:02 PM 


Just you are making excuse because you can not answer the question and not having any things to debate because you know the truths.



 
 

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Re: Iran announces new stealth fighter jets

April 20 2010, 6:22 PM 

The only thing shocking about Iranian technology is that you guys actually believe this crap they feed you.

Really shocking that educated people like you truly believe such things. happy.gif

The Turks asked you to show your high-tech productions and all you could show was copies of old foreign weapons and mock-ups of strange looking plastic aircraft that look like they were designed by teenagers in high school.

A new line of stealth fighters??

When it takes Russia so many years to come up with a prototype of a plane called T-50, when USA and other co-producing nations have difficulties completing the F-35 you expect people to believe that Iran is making not just a fighter but a stealth one and not only one model but a whole new line of them?

So when did you finish making the previous line of stealth fighters and now you're announcing this new line?

I respect Iranian efforts to make some things but people shouldn't show off with these jokes of propaganda and make fun of serious Turkish projects because you're only fooling yourselves. happy.gif

 
 


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Re: Iran announces new stealth fighter jets

April 20 2010, 6:24 PM 

LOL, sorry buddy, you are a sh!t for brain. This is why I wouldn't waste my time on the likes of you.
For example... what is a "small tank"? And how do you know that the Zolfaghar 3 is small? You ever been in it? have you ever weighed it or know how long it is? LOL
Also, you said you don't know what other weapons Iran makes... even though I posted a hundred of them in the other threads already....

Nope... no need to waste my time.

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April 21 2010, 12:58 AM 




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Iran's Air Force Industry and a new generation of Fighter Aircrafts

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Since early 1970's obscurity has been an essential component of the Iranian defense strategy, and the other being self sufficiency. The Iranian Air Force had already started building a supply chain management system in order to build some of the parts for the expensive weapons being purchased by the Shah. The Americans were surprised that any F14s could still fly by mid 1980s and believed that no F14 Tomcat can be flown since no parts were being provided to Iran after the Embassy hostage takeover and had assumed that Russians must have been involved in supporting Iran as it was incomprehensible that Iran could be reverse-engineering, manufacturing, and maintaining its fleet on its own.

Iran's military weapons development and production is not advanced by any means compared to what we all know of U.S. capabilities and its military industrial complex. But don't disregard Iran's capabilities as one that is only able to rebuild/reproduce 1950's designed aircrafts like that of Northrop F5A with cannibalization and two slanted tail fins, as Western media suggest. Or the other on the extreme opposite that compared it to an F18. In fact neither is true.

The most obvious error in their reporting is that the Iranian Azarakhsh and the Saegeh are actually based on 1970s upgraded F5E/F and not the 1950s designed F5A. This may not mean a lot to most people but to Aerospace and Aviation Designers and Engineers familiar with the differences between the two, it makes a lot of sense in terms of technology capability. If you have flown the two in combat, then there is no question that they are different aircrafts.

While many Western 'aviation experts' and reporters express their surprise for Iranian, supposedly, wasted efforts to copy the 'old' F5, they are seriously misunderstanding Iran's military strategy and its manifestation.

For those people that suggest the Iranian Air Force will not last more than a few minutes against the invincible U.S. Air Force or the Israelis, I would suggest that your thinking is not applicable.

Consider how a few hundred militia from Hezballah can hold the entire Israeli armed forces to a standstill. The Israelis were so desperate they targeted civilians, and not just Shia but also Sunnis, and Christians. While foolish people may regard Israeli bombings of civilian as a sign of strategic targeting of the enemy's support structure, this is far from reality - and the foolish ones do not understand tribal support philosophy. If you want to know the truth, ask Israelis in Tel Aviv. They would admit openly that the 2006 war was the first time in their history since 1948 that they lost a war and did not achieve their objectives at a great cost to their military. Israelis see war in a very strategic way rather than simply a display of power projection. They believe they lost their invisibility in the minds and hearts of muslims throughout the Middle East and beyond.

Mostly, Israelis regret the increase in confidence and experience that Hezballah has gained from the 2006 war. They take this very serious and know that no good will come out of the new dynamics as they must go back and face their enemy eventually, again, while it is getting stronger and bolder by the day. The 2006 war provides an insight into the potential future conflict between U.S./Israel and Iran and how the later is preparing for war.

Iran has spent a considerable share of its defense budget on its naval forces (which consist of both regular and Iranian Revolutionary Guard Corps), believing that the Persian Gulf will be its front line in the event of a confrontation with the U.S. or Israel.

Iran appears to have a clear naval war-fighting doctrine that suits its revolutionary fervor, and has no doubt developed innovative, asymmetric naval warfare tactics that exploit its favorable geographic situation, build on its strengths, and targets the U.S. vulnerabilities in the Persian Gulf and elsewhere.

Pundits have long speculated on Iran's military weapons and their capabilities. Reports have been published by news agencies on a range of military equipment that Iran has supposedly purchased. If you believe these reports, then Iran has 250 Su30s, and 30+ Mig31s, and hundreds of other military weapons, of course if you believe all the nonsense.

Iran can now count on a new bread of Engineers. Sharif University is the same university that Newsweek regarded as one of the best universities in the world. In 2003, administrators at Stanford University's Electrical Engineering Department were startled when a group of Iranian students aced the notoriously difficult Ph.D. entrance exam, getting the highest scores ever in the schools history.

Iranian students who have developed an international reputation as science superstars, are now displaying their prowess in electrical, mechanical, aerospace and automation engineering. The best of the best end up working for Iranian Aircraft Industries, Malek Ashtar's Aeronautical Research Center and Irans Aerospace Organization and the various joint projects that are managed through the Ministry of Defense. The planning at this level (not interfered by clerics) is exceptional even compared to Western standards.

The Iranian zest for engineering problem-solving, their desire for self-sufficiency, and their motivation to demand respect from countries that labeled them as Axis of Evil is certainly evident with their newly displayed prototype. Few could have imagined that Iran could have had such an ambitious project.





Sketch of a possible design for Iranian stealth fighter jet



Although the new aircraft is probably far from seeing full scale manufacturing and production and most probably has many incomplete subsystems.

While speculation drives all the nonsense rumors in the Western media, the Iranian obscurity has achieved what Iranians have wanted for over a century - that is self-sufficiency and independence from foreign dependency. As more sanctions are placed on Iran, the more they will rise in developing capabilities, and ultimately, self reliance.

We all accept that advanced design concepts and R&D does not automatically result in a squadron of fighter jets. But no one can doubt the level of engineering that Iran's visionaries can dream. And dreams are becoming a reality.

Skeptics still point to the fact that Iranian manufacturing, planning, management, production, funding, and organization is like something from the medieval times and the Iranian leadership and its corrupt ruling party have project development skills that resemble clinical schizophrenia.

What is important is that despite all control obsessions of the clerics that is often bordering paranoia and delusionary ideas on management styles and organizational behavior, you would be surprised to see what Iranian military specialists have accomplished in overhauling projects, upgrades, and maintenance programs completely immune to the interference and limitless stupidity of those with power, at local and national levels.

That, as an observer, is the real strength of Iran - being able to function and grow with all that is working against it. And the only thing that foreign powers (or internal traitors) can do is to slow it down but never to a halt.


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Re: Iran announces new stealth fighter jets

April 21 2010, 1:23 AM 

Kamilresi and Titanium..

I bet The Moron called Hadi had started crying when he read the sentences you have typed above. You know Truth hurts. happy.gif As you saw, He prefered to escape instead of responding them... happy.gif

Great Ownage threads for HADI indeed !!!


Think An industry that is not capable of designing-developing a simple thermal sighting system (Let developing IR detector technologies aside) properly so needs to clone 1960 USA sight systems claiming that Iran defence industry under the rules of idiot backwawrd Molla's will develop a much more capable stealth fighter jet than USA F-22... happy.gif and Then, Same idiot want us to believe this bullsh@t... happy.gif



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Re: Iran announces new stealth fighter jets

April 21 2010, 6:21 PM 

Come on You guys..If IRanian are able to build its own Stealth Fighter it would be a good news isn't is?..even it's only 3d image or plastic model, well it's good. better than nothing at all. Who knows maybe the iranian have some help.

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Re: Iran announces new stealth fighter jets

April 26 2010, 12:36 AM 

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The Enemy is Confused.
Iran's Traditional External Enemies WASPS JUHUDS and ARABS are killing Each Other.
MKO vs Hbola is Mazhab Aleyhe Mazhab thesis
Communism=JUHUD=Bolshevik=Aksariyati=Bahai=
SAVAKI=Zionism=WASPS PLOTS=Saeed Emami =Ahmadinejad = Zarghami = Rahmati= Dehnamaki
F16I a poor answer to Shafagh
China is Behind Iran with the VETO power. Don't waste our time by mentioning UN sanctions.
History is a lousy teacher.
The Wealth of a Nation is its production and not the amount gold it has, Adam Smith 1776
Moses Jesus and Mohamad didn't have Father , they made stories about their Fathers !!!!
During the last 2500 years Iran has been ruled by Iranians for only 700 years.
China has Send US forces for Wild Goose Chase, in PG and Tora Bora, while it takes over Taiwan , and Korea will Nuke Japan.
The Most Unholiest Alliance >>>>>British Chinease Pact Iran (China (UK)) is Encircling Middle East , Caribean and Panama Canal.
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New Stealth fighter jets

April 26 2010, 4:41 AM 

According to rumours, Iran got some knowledge of making radar-absorbing paints from Russia. this kind of paint might give some stealth ability to fighter jets. I heard that at least some of existing planes in Iran airforce have been repainted with this radar absorbing paint. I am not sure about how effective are those paints in making a plane invisible to radars.

 
 

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Re: Iran announces new stealth fighter jets

April 26 2010, 5:51 PM 

i think i've read about that somewhere before. not the iranian fighter but the paint. the pain could help in reducing the plan signature.

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April 26 2010, 8:36 PM 

I recall hearing somewhere that shape is like 90% and RAM is 10% of stealth designs in terms of defeating radar.



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Re: Iran announces new stealth fighter jets

April 26 2010, 10:15 PM 

^^^ Yea I heard the same thing.. its the shape that really makes it stealth everything else is just minor

 
 
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The military equipment of Turkey includes a wide array of arms, artilleries, large surface vessels, cannons, armored vehicles, mortars, unmanned vehicles and many different equipments.

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1 Historical Development
1.1 General
1.2 1923-1950
1.3 1950-1960
1.4 1960-1970
1.5 19701980
1.6 1980-1985
1.7 Today's Turkish Defense Industry
2 Companies
2.1 Modern Equipment Of Turkish Defence Industries (including licenced products)
2.2 Land Platforms and Modernizations
2.3 Naval Platforms
2.4 Air Platforms
2.5 Artillery - Rockets - Missiles
2.6 Small Arms
2.7 Ammunition, Explosives and Detectors
2.8 Electronic Warfare
2.9 C4ISR
2.10 Sensors
2.11 Software
2.12 Logistics
2.13 Parts & Components Manufacturing
3 See also
4 Sources


[edit] Historical Development
[edit] General
The first initiative in establishing a defense industry in Turkey goes back to the period of the Ottoman Empire. Defense industry which had a strong position up until the 17th century, stayed outside the technological developments in Europe since the 18th century and has totally lost its impact starting from the World War I.

Thus, no significant defense industry infrastructure was present during the first years of the Republic and activities in this domain were limited to the establishment of new facilities near Ankara during the Turkish War of Independence. Having the view that defence industry is a part of the overall industrialization and development, the Republican Administration supported the States guidance in industrialization and therefore the defense industry during the first planning period. Despite such activities as the in-country aircraft production, a strong infrastructure could not be established due to internal an d external conditions.

In the post World War II Period, activities in defense industry initiated during the first years of the Republic were not sufficient due to lack of State support, which came to a halt as a result of the foreign military aid received upon promotion of bilateral relations with the United States and Turkeys membership of NATO.

However, regional problems Turkey faced in the 1960s, Cyprus crises in 1963 and 1967, Cyprus Peace Operation in 1974 and the arms embargo following the Peace Operation necessitated the development of a defence industry based on national resources. After 1974 Turkish Armed Forces Foundation were established with this understanding and some investments, though limited were initiated.

Besides the administrative and financial difficulties in maintaining and improving the national capabilities, limited national resources as well as the procurement policies proved insufficient to fill the increasing gap in Turkish Armed Forces defence equipment.

[edit] 1923-1950
Machinery, craftsmen and workmen transferred discretely from Istanbul and its surroundings at the end of the Ist Worl War played a crucial role in winning the War of Independence. Small scale and simple workshops in Ankara, Konya, Eskiþehir, Keskin and Erzurum not only provided light weapons and ammunition but also lay the foundation for a sound local defence industry infrastructure.

General Directorate of Military Facilities was set up in 1921. Establishing and industry of weapons and ammunition was discussed for the first time during the Ýzmir Congress of Economics. In 1924 a facility for repair of light weapons and artillery and another facility for ammunition and carpenter work in Ankara; in 1924 a new ammunition facility in Ankara; in 1930 a capsule facility in Kayaþ; in 1931 a power plant and steel facility in Kýrýkkale ; in 1936 a facility for gunpowder, rifle and artillery; in 1943 a facility for gas masks in Mamak were established. In addition, Nuri KILLIGÝL facility set up near Haliç region, Ýstanbul; in 1930 was then one of two private firms producing weapons. Producing pistols, 81 mm mortar and its ammunition, explosives and pyrotechnics, this facility provided support to the Turkish Armed Forces during the World War II.

In 1924, Gölcük Shipyard was set up for the maintenance of Yavuz battle cruiser. In 1941, Taþkýzak Shipyard was reactivated.

Turkish aviation industry was initiated through the establishment of Tayyare ve Motor Türk AÞ (TamTAÞ) in 1926. The facilities of TamTAÞ established in Kayseri, started production in 1928; until 1939, a total of 112 aircraft 15 German Junkers A-20s, 15 US Hawk fighters, 10 US Fledging trainers, 15 German Gotha liaison aircraft were produced. After completion of the maintenance of the aircraft in the inventory of the Turkish Air Force Command, TamTAÞ suspended aircraft production in 1939.

24 Nu. 37 aircraft and many gliders were produced in the aircraft facility founded by Nuri DEMÝRDAÐ in Istanbul in 1936. but this private firm was out of operation in 1943.

The first major initiative in the aviation industry was the formation of an aircraft facility by Turkish Aviation Association in Ankara , 1941. Starting production in 1944, this facility produced 80 Miles Magister trainer aircraft, two engine ambulance aircraft THK-10 light transport aircraft, 60 Ugur two-seater trainer aircraft and various types of gliders. The first aircraft engine facility was set up in Ankara, in 1945 and started production in 1948. various facilities were established in Malatya between 1942-43 in order to repair and maintain the aircraft procured from the United Kingdom during the II nd World War.

Foreign military aid that started upon Turkeys membership in NATO and increased within a short period stalled the development of local defence industry which was at its preliminary stage of formation.

[edit] 1950-1960
Instead of improving the local defence industry, foreign aid and foreign procurement were practiced during this period. Because of the Cold War and military and political polarization after the IInd World War, Turkey met its defence requirements through and in the framework of the NATO.

Within the impact of the increasing foreign aid in the post-IInd World War period, efforts for the development of local defence industry slowed down; orders of the Turkish Armed Forces from the local suppliers decreased, thus military facilities became a part of the Machinery and Chemical Industry Corporation (MKEK) which was formed as a State Economic Enterprise on 15 March 1950.

Development of, weaponry and equipment in the inventory of the Turkish Armed Forces was kept on the agenda by the Research and Development Department formed in 1954 under the Ministry of Defence in 1970, development studies of defence industry were reactivated.

[edit] 1960-1970
It was a period regional conflicts and the Cyprus issue. Cyprus crises in 1963 and 1967 and the Cyprus Peace Operation in 1974, the arms embargo imposed on Turkey as a result of this Peace Operation proved the need for a national defence industry. During the crises, Turkey was face with the difficulty of dependence on foreign supply. The deadlock experienced in this period caused to seek ways toreactivate national defence industry. During this period in which investments based on import substitution were common, production of G-3 and MG-3 rifles by the MKEK under German licenses were concrete examples of this policy put into practice.

[edit] 19701980
1970s have been the period in which solid initiatives were put into force so as to establish a national defence industry. As a result of the national reaction to the arms embargo against Turkey, Armed Forces Foundation were established. Although these Foundations formed enterprises such as Aselsan, Havelsan, Aspilsan thanks to the donations, it was soon realized that the actual need for a defence industry as required by the contemporary age could not be met through the Foundations.

[edit] 1980-1985
In 1980s, state initiative was undertaken to realize the modernization of the Turkish Armed Forces and the establishment of a national defence industry based on contemporary technology was set as the primary goal.

The first step in this direction was taken by the establishment of defence equipment Directorate as a state enterprise. However, the shortcomings stemming from its state-bound status prevented the success and all the properties of that enterprise were transferred to the Undersecretariat for Defence Industries (SSM) which was established in 1985 under the Law No: 3238

[edit] Today's Turkish Defense Industry
One of the main tasks of the SSM is to re-organize and integrate the existing national industry so as to satisfy defence industry requirements, encourage new enterprises and channel them according to the integration and requirements, seek possibilities for foreign capital and technology contribution, guide enterprises and make plans for state participation in this respect.

Over the last 21 years since its establishment, and as a result of dedicated efforts, the Undersecretariat for Defence Industries has made real achievements in the creation of a modern national defence infrastructure in Turkey, with highly successful results in certain vital areas. Key defence industrial institutions have been established to meet the requirements of the Turkish Armed Forces through local sources, each of which fill an important gap in their scope of activity.

Additionally, some important capabilities have been obtained in the framework of the projects and industrialization activities. Briefly these are as follows:

Technology infrastructure
Export infrastructure
Strengthening side sectors
Restructuring industry and
Expertise
Turkish defense industries are now able to manufacture authentic products and have a wide research and development programme in which main supporter is TÜBÝTAK .

As a result of SSM projects now we have existence of a defense industry in Turkey. There are very sufficient sub-system producers, firms in Teknokent, small and medium sized enterprises, research institutions and universities.
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Re: Iran announces new stealth fighter jets

April 30 2010, 8:47 AM 

Lets be honest as pointed out a stealth fighter is an incalculably complicated piece of equipment.

As a meter of fact Iran is no where near where Israel is right now , If Israel decides to attack Iran how ever they will do it they will have air supremacy and there is nothing Iran can do about it and they know it ! .

Well I sincerely hope it will not come as far as that


 
 
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Re: Iran announces new stealth fighter jets

April 30 2010, 10:02 PM 

let believe turks

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The Enemy is Confused.
Iran's Traditional External Enemies WASPS JUHUDS and ARABS are killing Each Other.
MKO vs Hbola is Mazhab Aleyhe Mazhab thesis
Communism=JUHUD=Bolshevik=Aksariyati=Bahai=
SAVAKI=Zionism=WASPS PLOTS=Saeed Emami =Ahmadinejad = Zarghami = Rahmati= Dehnamaki
F16I a poor answer to Shafagh
China is Behind Iran with the VETO power. Don't waste our time by mentioning UN sanctions.
History is a lousy teacher.
The Wealth of a Nation is its production and not the amount gold it has, Adam Smith 1776
Moses Jesus and Mohamad didn't have Father , they made stories about their Fathers !!!!
During the last 2500 years Iran has been ruled by Iranians for only 700 years.
China has Send US forces for Wild Goose Chase, in PG and Tora Bora, while it takes over Taiwan , and Korea will Nuke Japan.
The Most Unholiest Alliance >>>>>British Chinease Pact Iran (China (UK)) is Encircling Middle East , Caribean and Panama Canal.
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Re: Iran announces new stealth fighter jets

April 30 2010, 11:05 PM 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_power_stations_in_Iran

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The Enemy is Confused.
Iran's Traditional External Enemies WASPS JUHUDS and ARABS are killing Each Other.
MKO vs Hbola is Mazhab Aleyhe Mazhab thesis
Communism=JUHUD=Bolshevik=Aksariyati=Bahai=
SAVAKI=Zionism=WASPS PLOTS=Saeed Emami =Ahmadinejad = Zarghami = Rahmati= Dehnamaki
F16I a poor answer to Shafagh
China is Behind Iran with the VETO power. Don't waste our time by mentioning UN sanctions.
History is a lousy teacher.
The Wealth of a Nation is its production and not the amount gold it has, Adam Smith 1776
Moses Jesus and Mohamad didn't have Father , they made stories about their Fathers !!!!
During the last 2500 years Iran has been ruled by Iranians for only 700 years.
China has Send US forces for Wild Goose Chase, in PG and Tora Bora, while it takes over Taiwan , and Korea will Nuke Japan.
The Most Unholiest Alliance >>>>>British Chinease Pact Iran (China (UK)) is Encircling Middle East , Caribean and Panama Canal.
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