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Stop barking! Turkey recognizes Kurdistan

October 2 2010 at 2:50 AM

VII_PZ_DIV  (Login VII_PZ_DIV)



Turkey starts preliminary work for Arbil consulate

http://www.todayszaman.com/tz-web/detaylar.do?load=detay&link=201755

The Turkish Foreign Ministry has sent a delegation to Arbil, the de facto capital of the Kurdistan regional administration in northern Iraq, days after an Iraqi Kurdish official said the Iraqi side had completed all required procedures to enable Turkey to open a consulate general in Arbil.


which arrived in the region on Monday accompanied by Turkish Ambassador to Iraq Murat Özçelik and Turkish Consul General in Mosul Ahmet Yıldız, surveyed locations in Arbil on Tuesday either for an appropriate existing building or for construction of a new consulate general.

Three locations have been identified by the Turkish delegation, which met with Iraqi Kurdish leader Massoud Barzani, the president of the Kurdistan region, later on Tuesday. During the meeting at Barzanis residence in Salahaddin, the Turkish delegation and Barzani were expected to discuss details on the location of the Turkish consulate general.

The Iraqi Cabinet had approved the opening of a Turkish consulate general in Arbil on Jan. 26. Turkey has yet to name any diplomat to the post of consul general.

In late October Turkish Foreign Minister Ahmet Davutoğlu paid a landmark visit to Arbil, the first by a Turkish foreign minister. Davutoğlu, who visited Basra earlier that day and opened a Turkish consulate there, stated in Arbil that Turkey would soon open a consulate there. Earlier in October, Turkey and Iraq signed 48 agreements on strategic cooperation in Baghdad.

Not long ago, we in the Kurdistan region were isolated from the outside world. We now have 16 active consulates and several other countries that plan to establish offices. The KRG [Kurdistan Regional Government] offices overseas will further enhance our cooperation. The partnerships we have developed with you have translated into concrete, mutually beneficial achievements and cultural and educational exchanges of great value to our people, Falah Mustafa Bakir, head of the Kurdish administrations Department of Foreign Relations, said last month.



17 February 2010, Wednesday


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VII_PZ_DIV
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Re: Stop barking! Turkey recognizes Kurdistan

October 2 2010, 2:54 AM 

fmr US President with Kurdish President in Washington
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Turkish FM meets with kurdish President, with Kurdish flags around
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Viva Kurdistan!
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Anonymous
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The Redcoats (UK)

Re: Stop barking! Turkey recognizes Kurdistan

October 2 2010, 3:05 AM 

So? They can have Iraqi Kurdistan.



On 12 June 1992, a Greek Mirage F-1C crashed during a dogfight with a Turkish F-16 piloted by Capt. Ilhan Filiz.

On 8 October 1996, a Greek Mirage-2000 piloted by Thanos Grivas shot down a Turkish F-16D with a Magic IR missile.

Just two days after that murder, on 10 October 1996 a Greek Mirage-2000 crashed close to Semadirek island after a dogfight with two Turkish F-16s.

Point of the story is: TUAF saved itself two missiles.

On May 23rd 2006, Two Greek F-16 fighters Scrambeled to intercept two Turkish F-16s that was escorting a Recon aircraft over the southern Aegean, After a short Mock-dogfight the Greek F-16 colided into the Turkish F-16. Turkish Pilot Lieutenant Halil Ibrahim Özdemir Ejected safely while the Greek pilot Lieutenant Konstantinos Kakkavas died instantly.

On December 4th 2007, a Greek F-16C participated in a night exercise in the Sporades archipelago, the pilot Lieutenant Athanasios Batsaras lost orientation thinking he was gaining altitude instead flew his aircraft into the sea. Athanasios Batsaras body was found latter on by a Turkish frigate which responded to the emergency call.

Point of the story is: Greeks don't know how to Fly.

On June 3rd 2003, a Greek F-16 block 30 Piloted by Captain Theodoros Pliatsikas crashed when a Bird was sucked into the air intake causing Engine Failure. Captain Theodoros Pliatsikas however was lucky enough to Eject and survived the incident with minor injury.

On June 4th 2009, a single seater Greek F-16 block 50 crashed in Ioannina after the plane ingested a bird. The pilot managed to eject from the plane with minor injury.

Point of the story is: Birds 2 Greeks -2 F-16s

Pardus... For Freedom...


 
 

VII_PZ_DIV
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Re: Stop barking! Turkey recognizes Kurdistan

October 2 2010, 3:39 AM 

I think Washington backs a unification of all Kurdistan (Iraq, Syria, Turkey, Iran) with the capital in Kirkuk.

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swoopmaster
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The Anusiya (Iran)

lol

October 2 2010, 3:46 AM 



lol

washington have bigger worries nowadays than the independence of the kurds

Besides, they can chop of Iraq the best way they want but good luck getting even an inch of land from Turkey and Iran... lol

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Fox_Two
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Re: Stop barking! Turkey recognizes Kurdistan

October 2 2010, 4:03 AM 

Its easier to believe this is another Zaman wet dream, but with AKP dont be surprised.
If they truly recognise it, that will be their ultimate end.

 
 

(Login Mikki_Ananas)
Imperium Europeum (Europe)

Re: Stop barking! Turkey recognizes Kurdistan

October 2 2010, 10:16 AM 

kurdistan would be an ever thankful ally in the mideast for the us and israel.

besides they have fresh water and oil in abundance.



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Re: Stop barking! Turkey recognizes Kurdistan

October 2 2010, 2:30 PM 

I personally have no problem with the Kurdish flag as I believe in a federal Iran and states can have their own flags. I have to admit that Turks here exaggerate and over-react a bit.

Having said that, Kurds are not one homogenous nation. They have different languages for God's sake and I don't think Turkish Cyprus can be compared with Kurdistan as not even the Iraqi Kurdistan is a country on its own and is part of Iraq. On the other hand, the Kurds can be compared with Southern Americans and yet I don't see the confederate flag or the Palestinian flag for that matter.

I find it inappropriate to post this flag as it is being portrayed as a country.



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Re: Stop barking! Turkey recognizes Kurdistan

October 2 2010, 2:31 PM 

besides they have fresh water and oil in abundance.

Not really you dimwit. Only Iraqi Kurdistan has SOME oil period. Now shut your mouth when you don`t know what you`re talking about.

 



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Anonymous
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Imperium Europeum (Europe)

Re: Stop barking! Turkey recognizes Kurdistan

October 2 2010, 11:33 PM 

there are no no iraqi kurds, you self beating moron.

these kurdish people whether in iraq, iran, turkey or syria are one kurdish nation.

now take up your sword again and hit yourself on the head or rape some relative.



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Re: Stop barking! Turkey recognizes Kurdistan

October 4 2010, 4:52 PM 

The only moron here is you, you dumb Fvk. Why don't you first try pointing out what continent these countries are in on the map and I would throw you a candy. Now STFU and leave serious matter to those with an IQ above 20.

You already exposed yourself by claiming that Kurds have oil. Whereas, there is no oil in Iran's Kurdistan. Nor is there any in Turkey's.You also exposed yourself again in the same sentence by claiming that Kurds have water as if Turkey or Iraq have no water in their non-Kurdish areas. For your information: Turkey is one of the major grain producing countries in the world, which means they have water elsewhere as well. Iraq in turn is still called the land of two rivers, you fruit cake. Iraq is a very fertile country.



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Anonymous
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Re: Stop barking! Turkey recognizes Kurdistan

October 7 2010, 1:06 AM 

The Kurds are one of the only groups in Iran who's non-Persian population is not assimilated, so i got no problem if they wish to seperate, plus when a people choose to seperate there's not much me and you can do about it. I wanna a Iran based on persian culture, identity and values anyways, so they can and should have their land if they wish, which doesn't even have any resource, so who gives a fvck? I think a vote should be taken, the one's who consider theirselves Iranian/persian, stay, the Kurds have their own land.

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Re: Stop barking! Turkey recognizes Kurdistan

October 7 2010, 2:42 AM 

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Re: Stop barking! Turkey recognizes Kurdistan

October 7 2010, 8:14 AM 

Parthian

I'm sorry but you're completely wrong. Kurds are culturally, linguistically and racially  related with us beyond recognition. Their language is Iranic, their culture is the same as ours. To give you an example: their heroes, their literatue are that of Iran's. Our national hero "Kaveh the Blacksmith" was a Kurd and is considered a national hero not just a Kurdish hero. Shall I say more?

In additon to that, Medes and Persian inter-married so much that nowadays you cannot make any distinction anymore between these two groups.

As to your assimilation theory, Iran is the reminance of an empire and our richness in languages and cultures makes us culturally much richer than Turks for instance and we have to preseve that. Assimilation is a retarded European concept based on their intollerance and barbaric culture and I completely reject that. It has no place in Iran.

 

 



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The Conquerors (Turkey)

Re: Stop barking! Turkey recognizes Kurdistan

October 7 2010, 9:07 PM 

"The Kurds are one of the only groups in Iran who's non-Persian population is not assimilated, so i got no problem if they wish to seperate, plus when a people choose to seperate there's not much me and you can do about it. I wanna a Iran based on persian culture, identity and values anyways, so they can and should have their land if they wish, which doesn't even have any resource, so who gives a fvck? I think a vote should be taken, the one's who consider theirselves Iranian/persian, stay, the Kurds have their own land."

That is so dumb. Give independence to Kurds then Balochs, Arabs and Azeris will ask for it too. Dont be so naive.

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Re: Stop barking! Turkey recognizes Kurdistan

October 8 2010, 6:32 AM 

That is so dumb. Give independence to Kurds then Balochs, Arabs and Azeris will ask for it too. Dont be so naive.

Well, I never said independence. I am talking abotu autonomy. They should be given the freedom to rule themselves to some extent as a civil society glued together by a modern federal state. That is a reality that Turkey and Iran will eventually have to accept.



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The Caliphs (Arabia)

Re: Stop barking! Turkey recognizes Kurdistan

October 9 2010, 5:40 AM 

Please do not put youtupe video.
forbidden in turkey

 
 
Anonymous
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WAFFer

Re: Stop barking! Turkey recognizes Kurdistan

October 11 2010, 1:16 AM 

Azeris and the rest of the minority groups are very assimilated and inter marry with ethnic persians everywhere you go. Kurds are a isolated group who live mostly in Villages or small towns, that's why most are not assimilated. They're alot more assimilated compared to the Kurds in Iraq and Turkey, no doubt, but compared to other Iranian ethnic groups they're not persified nearly as much. Most still speak Kurdish as their first language and so on. The one's who consider theriselves as part of our nation and people should be allowed to stay, the one's who don't should have their own state, the land should be split depending on the percentage who wanna leave and stay. Even the Arab Iranians are more assimilated and persified, of-cource they're less than 1% so they're no threat even if they weren't.

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Re: Stop barking! Turkey recognizes Kurdistan

October 11 2010, 1:33 AM 

Persian-revenge. Medians aren't Kurdish. Kurds themselves claim decendant from many tribes semite and Iranic, one of those being medes. Persians and Kurds don't really look alike at all. All the ones I've met looked like a mix of the ethnic groups in the mid-east with some european genes added in for some of them. Look at their pics if you want, the president of Iraq is Kurdish, look at him and tell me if he looks like an ethnic Persian.

Jeez, for people who claim to be Iranian you people have no clue on Iranian/Persian features. Look at Cyrus the great's photo in my sig, now compare him to Babak, Darius, Shapur, ancient Persian statues etc.. Those are actual Persian/Iranic features, now tell me, do any of the Kurds who you've met look anything like these men I stated?

Set up a federalist system in Iran and see how fast the country would be split up in such a hostile environment, You must be crazy. The people are already persified, most don't have a problem with it, who are you to tell them they're not? One of the most Nationaloistic Iranians I've know were non-Persians who were devoted to Persian nationalism, this is to show their loyalty, and you would be spitting in their face by saying such things.

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