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Russian operations at Georgia and the lessons to be learned

August 9 2012 at 5:00 AM

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http://www.defencenet.gr/defence/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=50252&Itemid=139

this article is in Greek you can translate it yourselves in English if you wish to do so

im sorry but im not going to spend my precious time translating articles for people like you thanks for the understanding.


Lets go on with my analysis, it is safe to suggest that Russian army did not adopt the modern tactics during their war with Georgia.

They used a large number of conventional forces and many of the systems used were not even modernized thats why they payed a high price in terms of casualtiesc coming from Georgian modern a/a weapons mainly.

I used to talk to several Russians in here who said that everything was ok since the final result was ok

Well it was not.

I mean there is not a biggest error than to ignore your mistakes and not trying to improve youself

It is out of the question that Georgians could have won a war against Russia with their limited forces, but if the opponent was much more stronger than Georgia then things might be different for Russians, yes they might have won in the end but with huge casualties.

Russian doctrine which is based on the Soviet Era does not take into consideration casualties, Russians used to treat their soldiers and they continue to do so like expendable pieces of meat

This is wrong, Russians should pay attention to this point , because yes they do have a big army and vast resources, but their human and material resources are by no means unlimited.

The outcome was in favor of the Russians but they could have avoided certain casualties if they had changed their doctrine.

Moden warfare suggests that small well armed and well trained and equipped groups of soldiers supported by adequate air support, armor , artillery etc are more than enough to do the trick

The point here is mobility , large convoys of conventional troops and armor are the perfect target of the enemy airforce.

In this case Russians had been lucky since they enjoyed air superiority, and the lack of a sufficient airforce by their opponent did not hinter the moves of their large convoys consisted of tanks, trucks and bmps

but this will not be the case if they have to deal with an opponent with a much stronger airforce.

Even with their limited airforce consisted mainly by some gunships Georgians gave hard time to Russians and they managed to keep them down in their enclaves after hammering their positions.

It was not only after the Russian airfoce energetically supported the operations focusing on diminishing the power of the attackers by destroying their modern weapons mainly tanks and artillery,, airfileds and the much dangerous gunships that Russians were able to safely send reinforcements in the battlefied.

The article claims that it was the mistakes commited by Georgians which costed them the war together with other factors.

The truth is that i disagree with that, Georgians tactically speaking, taking into consideration their available forces did not commit any serious blunders, except from the fact that they let the Rocky Tunnel intact, allowing Russians to bring reinforcements.

All other things taken into account, Georgians had the upper hand and they gave hard time to Osetians and the limited peace keeping Russian forces over there

Of course this could not last long taking into consideration the fact that Georgia was surrounded by hostile and pro Russian states which would offer their land as corridors where the Russians could send continuous reinforcements, fighting with them side by side, this together with the air superiority of the Russians and the usage of Rocky tunnel would mean sooner or later the end of their offensive.

Thats all i need to say.

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Nikephoros
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Re: Russian operations at Georgia and the lessons to be learned

August 9 2012, 5:16 AM 

You have to stop reading and circulating the materials of defencenet. The only good or credible things they "write" are those they plagiarize and translate back into Greek. Even these idiot WAFF Turks who even in their 30's have the mentality and mental acuity of teenagers get their claims and lies re-translated there and circulated as news just so they can promote their crappy publications.

I would ask the Greeks that frequent it to instead use and link to:
http://www.defence-point.gr/
http://tourkikanea.gr/
http://infognomonpolitics.blogspot.com/
http://www.enkripto.com/

Does anyone know the English or Russian article that Defencenet sourced their plagiarism from on this one? Part of the title is: "4 χρόνια από τον πόλεμο Ρωσίας-Γεωργίας / 4 years from the Russian-Georgian war." They probably lifted all or most of it from a foreign article with the same title.

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Re: Russian operations at Georgia and the lessons to be learned

August 9 2012, 5:20 AM 

as a matter of fact i dont give a damn about defencenet where they get their articles from or of their potential plagiarisms

i like the article and i wanted to talk about it explaining my own ideas about it thats all,my purpose is not to advertize defencenet, which is already well known and many times not in a good way in here

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Nikephoros
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Eagle Squadron (US)

Re: Russian operations at Georgia and the lessons to be learned

August 9 2012, 5:25 AM 

Onty, defencenet just make stuff up and steal badly from foreign based sources, they have no credibility as a publication or website even for localing reporting on Greek events.

Your English is good enough that you should instead seek out and read foreign analysis in English.

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