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Denmarks new Scout vehicle..

October 9 2005 at 5:50 PM

  (Login Lau_HC)
Vikings

Denmark is testing new scout vehicles to replace the aging Mowag Eagle II.

The ones they are testing is:

Mowag eagle 4:



OMC RG-32M from southafrica:



My favourit Panhard VBR from France:



And finally, the American Textron ASV:



Wich one do you think is the best for the job?
And has any of the vehicls shown above been a succes elswhere?

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Stock
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Re: Denmarks new Scout vehicle..

October 9 2005, 9:30 PM 

I'm too lazy to find specs on the vehicles, so I'll just go for the best looking one, the Mowag Eagle 4.

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Fredrik
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Re: Denmarks new Scout vehicle..

October 10 2005, 10:36 AM 

The RG-32M has been selected by sweden and is undergoing tests at the moment, 102 vehicles to be purchased. More info in swedish in FMVs PROTEC.

 
 


(Login Lau_HC)
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Re: Denmarks new Scout vehicle..

October 10 2005, 11:46 AM 

Thx for the link.

Do you know what other vehicls Sweden tested prior to selecting the RG-32M?


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roland
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France

Re: Denmarks new Scout vehicle..

October 10 2005, 11:51 AM 

I love the look of the VBL.








    
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(Login Lau_HC)
Vikings

Re: Denmarks new Scout vehicle..

October 10 2005, 12:02 PM 

Yup! The VBL is nice looking. But the windows are small, thats a problem with our current scout vehicle Mowag Eagle 2. Im guessing they will choose either Mowag eagle 4 or the OMC RG-32M.

The American Textron ASV looks like the BRDM-2... Fugly!

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Fredrik
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Re: Denmarks new Scout vehicle..

October 10 2005, 12:22 PM 

As mentioned in the PDF document three suppliers had vehicles that could fulfill the technical specifications, but only the RG 32 M fulfilled the economic conditions, among which were the requirement of a free test vehicle. So the RG 32 M was the only candidate to be tested.

 
 


(Login Lau_HC)
Vikings

Re: Denmarks new Scout vehicle..

October 10 2005, 12:24 PM 

Thats wierd...

If im not mistaken, all of the danish test vehicls is being tested for free..

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Re: Denmarks new Scout vehicle..

October 10 2005, 12:28 PM 

The Panhard VBL is a very good and Reliable vechicle!
I can tell! We had some of this in my unit and it could do almost anything!
Maybe the others are good too i dont know, but the VBL is surely good!



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Fredrik
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Re: Denmarks new Scout vehicle..

October 10 2005, 12:45 PM 

Quote:Lau

Thats wierd...
Well... it has been suggested that due to our sale of Gripens to southafrica, the "competition" might have been descided in advance. But on the other hand it might have something to do with the desire to blow the test car up. What other economic conditions that was set, we can only speculate.

 
 


(Login Lau_HC)
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Re: Denmarks new Scout vehicle..

October 10 2005, 2:34 PM 

It was there to be tested, so ofscourse it had to be blown up!

I think your first theory is the correct one. Its all politics!

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Pymes75
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Mowag Iveco

October 10 2005, 4:19 PM 

Can anyone tell me why they aren't looking at a variant of the Alvis-Iveco LMV?

It's been purchased by Italy, Belgium and the UK so already has a good customer base.


 
 

Anonymous
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Re: Denmarks new Scout vehicle..

October 10 2005, 4:45 PM 

Quote:
Can anyone tell me why they aren't looking at a variant of the Alvis-Iveco LMV?



They probably did at some point:

from www.armyvehicles.dk quoting Janes:

Four contenders for a Danish Army 4 x 4 armoured patrol vehicle (APV) requirement are undergoing trails in Denmark. The Danish Army Materiel Command earlier in 2005 issued an invitation to tender for the APV to 11 companies, including AM General (US), BAE Systems, Land Systems OMC (South Africa), IVECO Defence Vehicle Division (Italy), Krauss-Maffei Wegmann (Germany), MOWAG (Switzerland), Panhard (France), Patria Vehicles (Finland), Renault Trucks Defense (France), Rheinmetall Landsysteme (Germany), Sabiex (Belgium) and Textron Marine & Land Systems (US).
Of these, four replied and the Danish Army is now testing the BAE Systems Land Systems OMC RG-32M, the MOWAG Eagle IV, the Panhard armoured reconnaissance vehicle (VBR) and the Textron Marine & Land Systems Guardian M1117 Armored Security Vehicle (ASV).
Key APV user requirements include the ability to carry five people including the driver and to be fitted with an overhead weapon station that will be provided as government-furnished equipment.
The 4 x 4 vehicle is also required to be armour protected, including the engine compartment and have a minimum payload of 2,000 kg.
The Danish Army currently operates a fleet of 36 MOWAG Eagle I 4 x 4 APVs based on a modified AM HMMWV chassis, which have seen extensive service at home and overseas. These were delivered from 1995 in two batches, 10 and then 26.
The Danish Defence Agreement for the period 2005 until 2009 states that the country will improve its military capability in order to participate in international military operations. The procurement of these APVs and other purchases will enable this objective to be met.
Following extensive trials in Denmark it is expected that the Army Materiel Command will award a contract for the selected vehicle by the end of this year. The APV programme is currently funded at 425 million DKr. (USD 70 million), which covers the supply of about 85 vehicles, weapons, communications equipment, training and integrated logistic support.
The BAE Systems Land Systems RG-32M is the latest model of the proven RG-32 and has already been selected and is in quantity production for the Swedish Army.
The MOWAG Eagle IV is the latest generation vehicle and is a follow on to the earlier Eagle I, II and III of which 485 have been built for the domestic and export market. It is based on the MOWAG Duro chassis with greater payload than the earlier vehicles.
The Panhard VBR has been developed as private venture for a vehicle with greater capacity and internal volume than the current production VBL reconnaissance vehicle, of which over 2,000 have been built for the home and export markets.
Textron Marine & Land Systems is currently in quantity production of the ASV for the US Army and Iraq (the company was awarded a contract to deliver 43 vehicles for the Iraqi Civil Intervention Force in 2004) where it has seen extensive operational use.

(Jane's Defence Weekly, September 2005)


 
 
Fredrik
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Re: Denmarks new Scout vehicle..

October 11 2005, 12:13 AM 

Here is some more info (in swedish) on the RG 32M dubbed "Galten" in sweden. Article and Video .

 
 


(Login Lau_HC)
Vikings

Re: Denmarks new Scout vehicle..

October 11 2005, 12:57 AM 

Nice video..

I like the fact that they drove one of them over a landmine... Just to see what happend..

Thats serious testing!

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Anonymous
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Vikings

Re: Denmarks new Scout vehicle..

December 13 2005, 5:56 PM 

By the way. It was the Eagle IV that was selected.



Denmark selects the EAGLE IV as their new Armoured Patrol Vehicle

Hjørring, Denmark - On December 09, 2005 the Danish Army Materiel Command (DAMC) and MOWAG GmbH – a General Dynamics company – signed a contract for the delivery of 85 units plus a small number for training and logistic reserve EAGLE IV 4x4 Armoured Patrol Vehicles (APV), including initial logistic support and services with a total value of close to 50 Million Swiss Francs (approx. US$ 38 Million). After five contracts for EAGLE I 4x4 and PIRANHA III 8x8 between 1995 and 2004, this contract adds the latest development of the Swiss company to the fleet of MOWAG vehicles operated by the Danish Army.


In May 2005 the Danish Army Materiel Command (DAMC) had announced the procurement Program for new Danish Army Armoured Patrol Vehicles. Key requirements included the ability to carry 5 people, be fitted with an Overhead Weapon Station and provide ballistic and mine protection to the crew and engine compartment.

Out of 11 companies that were selected to bid, four finally received an invitation to send their vehicles to undergo trials in Denmark . In September and October 2005, customer tests over an 8000 km distance were conducted including extensive off-road driving in all types of terrain, long distance on-road driving including German Autobahn, testing at the tough WTD 41 test facilities in Trier , Germany and troop trials on the isle of Bornholm . The outstanding performance of the EAGLE IV in the areas of on- and off road mobility, driving safety, crew comfort and vehicle versatility at an affordable price made the EAGLE IV the winner in this competition.

MOWAG's CEO, Simon T. Honess, was proud and pleased about the selection of the EAGLE IV by Denmark , and he declared: „This contract is a great success for MOWAG as it marks a further proof of our customers' confidence in the performance and reliability of our products and company.

The EAGLE IV, to be equipped with an Overhead Weapon Station, Communication and Battle Management System and various other equipment will further enhance the military capability of Denmark to participate in international operations. The threat situation in such missions specifically calls for a high level of protection for the vehicle crews against mines and ballistic weapons. With the EAGLE IV, the technology-minded company from Kreuzlingen , Switzerland offers a new product based on the well proven DURO family of vehicles, which fulfils this high-ranking requirement of protection, comfort and mobility.

Production will take place at MOWAG's facility in Kreuzlingen and deliveries will commence in August 2006. Danish companies will be involved in the supply of various components and assemblies.


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Facts about the EAGLE IV 4x4

With the EAGLE IV MOWAG is on the way to set another standard in the domain of armoured wheeled vehicles in the weight class up to 8 tons. The EAGLE IV is 5.37 m long, 2.16 m wide and offers seating space for 4-5 people. On the road, the EAGLE IV reaches a speed of 110 km/h; it manages gradients of up to 60% and obstacles with a height of up to 40 cm. The 245 HP Cummins engine, in connection with the Allison 5-speed automatic transmission, the unique De Dion axles with patented Roll Stabilizer, the tire pressure regulation system, and permanent all-wheel drive give the EAGLE IV an incomparable mobility both on- and off road.

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(Login GER_Mark)
Panzer Brigade(Germany)

Re: Denmarks new Scout vehicle..

December 13 2005, 9:40 PM 

fennek all the way










 
 
Hethiter
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The Conquerors (Turkey)

Re: Denmarks new Scout vehicle..

December 14 2005, 1:18 AM 

Ger Mark
do you have any infos that turkiye is interested in the Fennek?

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(Login GER_Mark)
Panzer Brigade(Germany)

Re: Denmarks new Scout vehicle..

December 14 2005, 12:27 PM 

no clue sorry


 
 

Lakedaimon
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Re: Denmarks new Scout vehicle..

December 14 2005, 1:07 PM 

LOL the Fennek is definatelly the ugliest I've seen. Good frontal view though. And of course windows are always the weak spot of any armor.

The VBL is good and fast but lightly armored.

The Textron ASV looks like it probably has the best all terrain performance, judging from the size of it's huge wheels.

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