http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/7545168.stm

France has rejected Rwandan claims accusing French officials of playing an active role in the Rwandan genocide of 1994 as "unacceptable".

On Tuesday, an independent Rwandan commission said France had been aware of preparations for the genocide and helped train the ethnic Hutu militia.

The report also accused French troops of direct involvement in the killings.

Paris has consistently denied any responsibility for the genocide, in which about 800,000 people were killed.

Among those named in the report were the late president Francois Mitterrand and the then prime minister Edouard Balladur.

Two men who went on to become prime minister were also named - Alain Juppe, the foreign minister at the time, and his then chief aide, Dominique de Villepin.

"This report contains unacceptable accusations made against French political and military officials," a French foreign ministry spokesman said.

But Rwandan Information Minister Louise Mushikiwabo said she hoped the French officials named would be indicted for war crimes.

"The government has asked the courts to use this report. We hope that legal proceedings will follow," she is quoted as saying by the AFP news agency.

Some 800,000 minority Tutsis and moderate Hutus were slaughtered by Hutu militias in just 100 days in 1994.

Earlier this year, France's Foreign Minister Bernard Kouchner denied French responsibility in connection with the genocide, but said political errors had been made.

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The Rwandan government has urged the relevant authorities to bring the accused French politicians and military officials to justice
Rwandan justice ministry

Report raises issue of motive

The Rwandan report says France backed Rwanda's Hutu government with political, military, diplomatic and logistical support.

"French forces directly assassinated Tutsis and Hutus accused of hiding Tutsis... French forces committed several rapes on Tutsi survivors," said a statement from the justice ministry quoted by AFP.

"Considering the seriousness of the alleged crimes, the Rwandan government has urged the relevant authorities to bring the accused French politicians and military officials to justice," the statement said.

It further alleged that French forces did nothing to challenge checkpoints used by Hutu forces in the genocide.

The two countries have had a frosty relationship since 2006 when a French judge implicated Rwandan President Paul Kagame in the downing in 1994 of then-President Juvenal Habyarimana's plane - an event widely seen as triggering the killings.

President Kagame has always denied the charge.

He says Mr Habyarimana, a Hutu, was killed by Hutu extremists who then blamed the incident on Tutsi rebels to provide the pretext for the genocide.

PARIS, France (CNN) -- France on Wednesday said accusations by Rwanda that French politicians and military officials helped prepare and carry out the 1994 Rwandan genocide are "unacceptable."


Alain Juppe, French foreign minister during the Rwanda genocide, calls the report an attempt to re-write history.

Rwanda's Ministry of Justice released a report Tuesday detailing the alleged French role in the mass killings, which left 800,000 people dead in 100 days when Hutu extremists went on a rampage killing Tutsis and moderate Hutus.

The report implicates 33 top French officials, including former French President Francois Mitterrand, and said French soldiers committed some of the killings.

The report was compiled by an independent national commission in Rwanda. But France questioned the objectivity of the commission, which was formed to "shed light on the role of France in the genocide of Tutsis in 1994," according to the Rwandan government's Web site.

There is no surprise in the conclusions of the commission given its mission, the French Foreign Ministry said in a statement.

It also decried the contents of the report. "There are, in this report, unacceptable accusations leveled against French politicians and the French military," the Foreign Ministry said.

Alain Juppe, who served as the French foreign minister at the time of the Rwandan massacres and who is named in the Rwandan report, said the panel's findings are part of Rwanda's efforts to "re-write history."

"We are witnessing for several years now an insidious attempt to re-write history," the French newspaper Le Figaro quoted Juppe as writing on his blog in January.

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"(This effort's) goal is to transform France into a party engaged in complicity in the genocide. This is an unacceptable falsification," Juppe said in his blog, according to the article published Wednesday. "During the time I was in charge of French diplomacy (April 1993 to May 1995), we made every effort possible to help in the reconciliation of Rwandans."

The French Government said it has cooperated with the International Criminal Tribunal for Rwanda and has arrested Rwandan suspects in French territories wanted in connection with the genocide.

In addition to Mitterrand, the report also names former Prime Minister Dominique de Villepin and Admiral Jacques Lanxade, who was army chief of staff from 1991 to 1995. It says they worked with the then-Rwandan government to carry out the genocide.

"French soldiers themselves directly were involved in assassinations of Tutsis and Hutus accused of hiding Tutsis," the report says. "French soldiers committed many rapes, specifically with Tutsi women."

In announcing the findings of the independent commission on Rwandan television Tuesday, Justice Minister Tharcisse Karugarama said the report could be the basis for future legal action against former French politicians and military officials.

In July, according to Le Figaro, Rwandan President Paul Kagame threatened to indict French officials in the matter unless European courts revoked arrest warrants issued against Rwandans named in the killings.

The killings began April 7, 1994, the day after a plane carrying the presidents of Rwanda and Burundi was shot out of the sky with a missile as it prepared to land in the Rwandan capital of Kigali.

The United Nations says the genocide was "highly organized," with top government and ruling party officials playing a role. The United Nations says lists were drawn up of Tutsi and opposition leaders "earmarked for assassination" before the genocide began.

French forces deployed to Rwanda in June 1994 for a humanitarian mission dubbed Operation Turquoise. France says the operation established safe humanitarian zones to shelter the population and that troops allowed thousands of others to escape the fighting.

The Rwandan report says it was during Operation Turquoise that the French soldiers took part in assassinations and rapes -- acts based solely, the report says, on account of the victims' ethnicity.


http://edition.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/africa/08/06/rwanda.france/index.html

Will the REAL Genociders Please stand up?

They are blaming the French government for a genocide conducted by their own people? Why would the French help in the genocide? What is the actual objective they were trying to reach if they did do this?

Siege of Tobruk - One German POW said: "I cannot understand you Australians. In Poland, France, and Belgium, once the tanks got through the soldiers took it for granted that they were beaten. But you are like demons. The tanks break through and your infantry still keep fighting." Rommel wrote of seeing "a batch of some fifty or sixty Australian prisoners ... marched off close behind us—immensely big and powerful men, who without question represented an elite formation of the British Empire, a fact that was also evident in battle."

there is already a thread on the subject
http://www.network54.com/Forum/211833/thread/1217962743/last-1218101492/Rwanda+accuses+France+of+genocide.

do your job properly mod, you can lock your own thread as well.

That is in the main Forum.

Sorry Bub, the thread stays open.

What's pathetic is that turks think if they start accusing other ppl of genocide...ppl will forget about their atrocities against the Armenian, Greeks, Kurds, Bulgars,...Pathetic!

Look at the Irony! A Turks accusing others of Genocide...HAHAHA! What's next? Hitler talking about human rights???





http://www.genocide-museum.am/
http://www.armenian-genocide.org/

''What's pathetic is that turks think if they start accusing other ppl of genocide...ppl will forget about their atrocities against the Armenian, Greeks, Kurds, Bulgars,...Pathetic!

Look at the Irony! A Turks accusing others of Genocide...HAHAHA! What's next? Hitler talking about human rights???''

hahaha Armenians were provoked killing thousands of Turks and Kurds! WTF are you on about? In addition there was no planned genocide, 300 thousand Turkish soldiers died of famine including manuy Armenians! 300 thousand of our lads died to deport your sorry @sses away from the war!

So tell me, why the french deny the Algerian genocide where 2 million Algerians died! The truth is Algeria depends on France! So they are lucky... FOR NOW!

Algerian Genocide

Between 350,000 and 1.5 million Algerians died during the Algerian War of Independence [2]. Algerians argue that the massacres should be named as genocide and France must apologise to the Algerians[8] [9] However the French do not accept the claims. Algeria's President Abdelaziz Bouteflika says that French colonization of his country Algeria was a form of genocide [10] [11] [12]. In memoirs, some French officers have described torture of Algerians during the war. Edouard Sablier, for instance, one of the soldiers who took part in the repression, later described the situation: “Everywhere in the towns there were camps surrounded by barbed wire containing hundreds of suspects who had been arrested… Often, when we set out to inspect an isolated hamlet in the mountains, I heard people say, ‘We should punish them by taking away their crops’.” [13] A paper called Ohé Partisans, published by the French Trotskyists, described Sétif as an “Algerian Oradour”. Oradour was a French town where the Nazi occupiers had murdered over 600 people, including children. [14]

However France has never accepted its responsibility in tortures and massacres in Algeria. Paris says that the past should be left to historians. French President Jacques Chirac, upon harsh reactions to the law encouraging the good sides of the French colonial history, made the statement, "Writing history is the job of the historians, not of the laws." Writing history is the job of the historians" According to Prime Minister Dominique de Villepin, "speaking about the past or writing history is not the job of the parliament."[3]

The Algerian president Abdelaziz Bouteflika said in a speech in Paris on 17 April 2006 "Colonisation brought the genocide of our identity, of our history, of our language, of our traditions".[4]

Algeria first became a colony of France in 1830. When the Algerian people rioted against the French colonial rule, the French dispatched 400,000 troops to pacify the anti-colonial uprising.[15] The French colonial forces launched an air and ground offensive against several eastern cities, particularly Setif and Guelma, in response to anti-French riots. The crackdown lasted several days and according to the Algerian state left 45,000 people dead. European historians put the figure at between 15,000 and 20,000 [16]. French attacks continued not only in Algerian territories but in France as well. The Paris massacre of 1961 was the most vivid example: On October 17 the French police attacked an unarmed demonstration of Algerians, who demanded the freedom of their country from French colonial rule. How many demonstrators were killed is still unclear, but estimates range from 32 to 200 people. The incident had not been officially confirmed until 1999 as the French Governments hide the truth.[17] [18] [19]

There were executions and widespread arrests during the War of Independence. "Many European lawyers refused to defend the accused. Villages were bombed from the air and a town was shelled from a cruiser at sea. The attacks were more or less random. The point was not so much to punish the original rioters as to teach the whole Muslim population to know their place. Settlers set up their own unofficial death squads and killed hundreds of Muslims. German and Italian prisoners of war were released to take part in the massacre." [20]

Abdulkerim Gazali, editor of the Algerian newspaper La Tribune, likens France's occupation of an independent and sovereign Algeria to Nazi Germany's occupation of many European countries and claimed this was racism.[21]

After a war which ended in Algeria's independence in 1962, eight million Algerian residents were deprived of French nationality and hundreds of thousands of 'pieds noir' (French who settled in Algeria and were re-patriated at the end of the war) were forced home to a place which was not home.

Ahmed Ben Bella also argues that the French committed a genocide against the people and Algerian culture: "Algeria's indigenous population was decimated in the early years of French settler colonial rule, falling from over four million in 1830 to less than 2.5 million by 1890. Systematic genocide was coupled with the brutal suppression of Algerian cultural identity. Systematic genocide was coupled with the brutal suppression of Algerian cultural identity. Indigenous Algerians were French subjects, but could only become French citizens if they renounced Islam and Arab culture. A ruthless policy of acculturation followed, and the remaining Algerians were forced to cease speaking their native Arabic and use the French of their colonial masters instead. The indigenous Muslim population of Algeria was not permitted to hold political meetings or bear arms. They were subjected to strict pass laws that required indigenous Muslim Algerians to seek permission from the colonial authorities to leave their hometowns or villages."[22]

Algeria called on France to apologise in 2005 for crimes committed during the colonial era [23]. Amar Bakhouche, speaker of the Algerian Senate, similarly reacted that France did not apologize for massacres it committed in Algeria [24].

The 1945 Massacres was one of the most tragic massacres French committed in Algeria. As Le Monde put it, "as France celebrated victory in Europe on 8 May 1945, its army was massacring thousands of civilians in Sétif and Guelma - events that were the real beginning of Algeria’s war of independence."[25] Bouteflika also urged the Paris Government to admit its part in the massacres of 45,000 Algerians who took to the streets to demand independence as Europe celebrated victory over Nazi Germany in 1945 [26] . French authorities then responded by playing down the comments, urging "mutual respect". French Foreign Minister Barnier told Algeria in an official visit to make a common effort to search history "in order to establish a common future and overcome the sad pages". Giving interview to El Vatan, an Algerian newspaper, Barnier said that "Historians from two sides must be encouraged to work together. They must work on the common past".[27]

The archives in France on the issue have been kept closed till now. The French collected all documents regarding the massacres and genocide. For many, the closed archives are another signs of the Genocide in Algeria. Amar Bakhouche, the speaker of Algerian Senate, reacted that France keep the archives related to that period closed. He says the greatest majority of archives related to that period were brought to France and they were kept closed. They are not open for French and Algerians. We urged to immediately open them for public" he said.[28]

Source: The Algerian Genocide (Cezayir Soykýrýmý) - Yeni KlasöR


http://www.politic.co.uk/european-union/10184-algerian-genocide-committed-french.html

Rest in Peace George Stephanou

Nukelist: Armenia, arabia, Russia, Europe, Greece, Bulgaria.

I find this very hard to believe. The French are too lazy to commit genocide.




Provost

Nothing in the world can take the place of persistence. Talent will not; nothing is more common than unsuccessful men with talent. Genius will not; unrewarded genius is almost a proverb. Education will not; the world is full of educated derelicts. Persistence and determination alone are omnipotent. The slogan 'Press On' has solved and always will solve the problems of the human race.

Calvin Coolidge, President of the United States 1924-1929

Armenia-Sacra: Oh p1ss of will you with your propaganda. People are getting tired of hearing the same
stories over and over again. And it does not matter what version you choose too tell your lies with,
you are not getting a SHRED of Turkish Soil.

But you are free as a person to have dreams. No one can take that from you, you can dream all you want but

Just dont come here and Bitch like a pussy when those dreams do not come true.

Behold and Enjoy "your" Holy Mount Ararat
jokes aside, naturally I mean our holy mountain on our soil.





Beautiful isn't it?

And to top it off we have Jesus, our silent protector, our guardian watching over Turks through Istanbul

If you want land back from Turkey... you should get in line like everyone else

Actually I have more respect for the Greeks than armenians.

I mean to be a bit fair, they at least attacked us face on, everytime when they thought they were going to win.

Sh1t happens and things dont always go as planned... anyone can loose a war, but your people on the other

hand are the true judas'es in this world. You live side by side with the turks for 500 years only to try and

stab them in the hearts at the very end.

At least the greeks dont cowardly yell "genocide" over their defeats as you do and make up stories, I'll give them that.

Personally I feel Enver Pasha was too soft on your Armenians, Had I been in his shoes and had his power and command, I would
definately have been more European, you would not have seen a shred of mercy.

Honestly though, had Armenia been in Turkeys shoes and Turkey in Armenia's... had you had the military power
Turkey has always had in the region, you would not have left one Turk left breathing. We would have seen an Armenian
inquisition on Turks long ago.

You showed what you are capable of with your genocide on the Azeris very well.

It just human-nature I guess.

How many times has one not seen that the azzhole accussing everyone else for being azzholes, is generally the biggest

azzhole himself ?

so we are speaking of Algeria or Rwanda there.

You Turks think that a massacre is well .. a massacre and a BIG massacre is called a genocide ?
no it's not the definition of the word genocide.
A genocide is a deliberate attempt to eliminate a whole population. It's generally done though big masacres but there is big massacres that are NOT genocide. example: Algeria. France did not tried to exterminate the Arabs else we would have done it, nothing could prevent us to do so apart our pity. And certainly not the FLN who was defeated.

On the contrary the masacres of Armenians was a deliberate attempt to eliminate all the Armenians. It was a genocide. is it clear enough ?

''On the contrary the masacres of Armenians was a deliberate attempt to eliminate all the Armenians. It was a genocide. is it clear enough ?''

It wasn't deliberate, 300 thousand Turkish soldiers died for nothing deporting the Armenians to Syria away from the ****ing war where Russian and French emissaries hired Armenians to go on killing sprees! Before then the Armenians were our loyal subject. Why should we massacre Armenians but not Kurds? Or did we massaxcre them as well? However there is no such thing as the ''TALL ALGERIAN TALE''

Just type in ''tall armenian tale'' in google and read it! How many ****ing times do i have to post something? Don't you guys read! All the evidence is there! You guys are just supporting the Armenians to see us fall!

Your telling me over 2 million Algerians getting shot wasn't planned?

300 thousand Turkish troops including many Armenians died because of many reasons. The Turkish army were escorting the Armenians to Syria, and why was that? Because Armenians provoked by the French and especially the Russians went on killing sprees, so Enver decided to deport them, away from the war! Thousands of Armenians including Turks died because famine struck them. In addition Kurdish tribes raided the convoy!

Go to youtube and type in ''massacred turks in erzurum'', that happened before the deportation where the Armenians were going on killing sprees targeting the local Turkish and KURDISH population!

http://www.tallarmeniantale.com/>

Rest in Peace George Stephanou

Nukelist: Armenia, arabia, Russia, Europe, Greece, Bulgaria.

france is declining and going to die its weaker than britain also which is also dying

france needs a sarkozy to accelerate its death france has bleak future with old faggotyr drunk orgy topless nudity homosexual murderous licentious lewd drugged pope priest penetration backside countries

Roland, stop wasting your time on this subject he won't change his mind



Mobile airpower

"The enemy dies relaxed," observed a Lockheed Martin manager.

NCR you're a typical thick-headed Turk. Too bad your nation can't steal it's wealth anymore from minorities like they did up through 1974. Those days are over, Biatch! We're coming back to own your asses!

Too bad your nation can't steal it's wealth anymore from minorities like they did up through 1974. Those days are over, Biatch! We're coming back to own your asses!
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Actually those days are not over mate



Quit whinning, pretty much entire EUROPE'S economy has been built up on stealing
and raping others (Take a look at africa for god's sake) during their colonial history.

And what do you have to say about that ?


What happened to the Armenians was not genocide, it was closer to ethnic cleansing,
and again there are no better ethnic cleansers in this world than European themselves.

I think we can all conclude by Europe's history that Europeans are PERFECT at
getting rid of their ethnic minorities. You dont even have to read much European history
to see this, just the last 100 years.

I guess Turkey retaliating with cleansing out the Armenians in self-defence,
shows once again that Turkey is more European than people would like to admit

Calling it Genocide is a false tale.

Notice that all the countries that recognize it.. have one thing in common.

They are all christian nations.

And btw Landos.. you cannot call protecting turkish cypriots for "stealing", just as
the armenians cannot call our retaliation on their massacres as "genocide".

Try reading up on both definitions.

Quit whinning, pretty much entire EUROPE'S economy has been built up on stealing
and raping others (Take a look at africa for god's sake) during their colonial history.

And what do you have to say about that ?

Ottomans anyone? The difference is the Europeans were so evil they out did the evil Ottomans and ended up dismantling it then raping it lol

Europeans are no more evil then Turks. They just did a better job.

Siege of Tobruk - One German POW said: "I cannot understand you Australians. In Poland, France, and Belgium, once the tanks got through the soldiers took it for granted that they were beaten. But you are like demons. The tanks break through and your infantry still keep fighting." Rommel wrote of seeing "a batch of some fifty or sixty Australian prisoners ... marched off close behind us—immensely big and powerful men, who without question represented an elite formation of the British Empire, a fact that was also evident in battle."

France accused over Rwanda genocide

France accused over Rwanda genocide

''Europeans are no more evil then Turks. They just did a better job.''

Ottomans, Turks or muslims never went to the holy lands massacring millions of people for wealth, land and power! Europeans left there **** hole and for more wealth and power they killed muslims. In addition when we ruled Europe we never disrciminated everyone! The Greeks kept most of their churches in Greece while all moaques in the holy land were burnt, we only introduced tax to europe! You call us barbarians because we tried to rule Europe and sadly failed like the Europeans did in nearly all the crusades!

No one is perfect but Europeans being lesser evil? That's just hipocricy!

Even my ''ENGLISH'' history told our whole class that the blacks under Ottoman rule were treated better than the ones in English or European rule!

If you think of it, America was founded because of us, why did the Europeans call the native people in present America ''red Indians''? Well, the Ottomans were blockading all European trade ships from trading with India importing spice from them. One day colombus and his crew tried to go around the world thinking that they would reach India, however the found ''New India or ''New America''! and used it's resources killing millions of natives for it to overwhelm us!

Rest in Peace George Stephanou

Nukelist: Armenia, arabia, Russia, Europe, Greece, Bulgaria.

In addition when we ruled Europe we never disrciminated everyone!

You never ruled Europe. Or did we fail history class?

No one is perfect but Europeans being lesser evil? That's just hipocricy!

The difference is the Europeans were so evil they out did the evil Ottomans and ended up dismantling it then raping it lol

Well, the Ottomans were blockading all European trade ships from trading with India importing spice from them.

You officially have no idea. You are young, you'll find what you just wrote is not only wrong but just made up.

used it's resources killing millions of natives for it to overwhelm us!

Is that by accident or by weapons? If by weapons can you now explain to me how millions of natives were killed with arquebus and sword, over a geographical size nearly 4 times the size of the Ottoman Empire, with only 50,000 European Soldiers. When you do that, I'll gladly talk to you about any other myth.

Siege of Tobruk - One German POW said: "I cannot understand you Australians. In Poland, France, and Belgium, once the tanks got through the soldiers took it for granted that they were beaten. But you are like demons. The tanks break through and your infantry still keep fighting." Rommel wrote of seeing "a batch of some fifty or sixty Australian prisoners ... marched off close behind us—immensely big and powerful men, who without question represented an elite formation of the British Empire, a fact that was also evident in battle."

@ultrarep...remember who ur talking to bro! these are turks...don't waste ur time on them! just check out their literacy rates & u'll find out what im talking about!

@rzeczpospolita....

Quote: You never ruled Europe. Or did we fail history class?

No man u didn't fail history class...the problem is in turkey they don't have history classes...so u may find the turkish version of "world history" a bit different from ours...lol!
Don't be alarmed if u hear phrases like:

1. Turks invented the banking system
2. Turks invented the telescope
3. Turks invented the olympic games
4. Red Indians are Turks and the Europeans who murdered them are Armenians
5. Turks created the world
6. Turks are Martians...or martians are turks for that matter
7. Turks can be invisible...that's why we didnt detect martians yet..who are turks
8. Turks can speak to fish

So don't waste ur time with such ppl bro! At least that's my advice to u..however if u wish to continue i wish u the best of luck!

Cheers (Now listen to the dogs bark..woof woof! hehe..i find them amusing)





http://www.genocide-museum.am/
http://www.armenian-genocide.org/

''Is that by accident or by weapons? If by weapons can you now explain to me how millions of natives were killed with arquebus and sword, over a geographical size nearly 4 times the size of the Ottoman Empire, with only 50,000 European Soldiers. When you do that, I'll gladly talk to you about any other myth.''

Not in 1 go ofcourse, slowly vur surely through centuries of time!
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Rwanda and Algerian genocide = Over 3 million killed...

And you Europeans talk about a so called genocide!?

You guys just don't want to accept anything, so you refuse to read our point of view!

''You never ruled Europe. Or did we fail history class?''

We ruled Eastern europe which is part of europe! After we were backstabbed! All the Ottomans did was introduce tax! We weren' like the Russians steam rolling over innocent civilians...

No '' Armenia-Sacra'' we actually do have our history lessons taught well in Turkey, it's actually the Europeans who are seduced into believing BS. Anyway, just look at your own problem Armenian:



And let's compare you with Azerbaycan, i mean Azerbaycan has a larger population but with less people starving compared to Armenia:







Rest in Peace George Stephanou

Nukelist: Armenia, arabia, Russia, Europe, Greece, Bulgaria.

Quote: Actually those days are not over mate

Giving back the land and property you STOLE from Greek Cypriots is going to be very expensive. Punitive damages alone should run to $ 9-10 Billion.

You're going to make a lot of Greek Cypriots millionaires.....mate.

Rwanda and Algerian genocide = Over 3 million killed...

So you are comparing the deaths of this fictional millions on two modern era cases? You do realise the French in Algeria were armed with modern arms? And Rwanda didn't see millions die, but it took millions to conduct?

So where did they kill all these millions of natives when they were more or less all wiped out in the plagues?

We ruled Eastern europe which is part of europe! After we were backstabbed! All the Ottomans did was introduce tax! We weren' like the Russians steam rolling over innocent civilians...

First of all Eastern Europe doesn't equal Europe. Secondly, you never controlled Eastern Europe, the Balkans does not equal Eastern Europe. So we did fail history?

Siege of Tobruk - One German POW said: "I cannot understand you Australians. In Poland, France, and Belgium, once the tanks got through the soldiers took it for granted that they were beaten. But you are like demons. The tanks break through and your infantry still keep fighting." Rommel wrote of seeing "a batch of some fifty or sixty Australian prisoners ... marched off close behind us—immensely big and powerful men, who without question represented an elite formation of the British Empire, a fact that was also evident in battle."

''First of all Eastern Europe doesn't equal Europe. Secondly, you never controlled Eastern Europe, the Balkans does not equal Eastern Europe. So we did fail history?''

The balkans is eastern europe...

2 million Algerians were killed, by are the French denying this? And why are you supporting the French? I don't care about the rwanda, im mainly talking about the Algerian genocide. I mean if Turks do something it's true, but when it comes to the Europeans it's false.

Rest in Peace George Stephanou

Nukelist: Armenia, arabia, Russia, Europe, Greece, Bulgaria.

It's not 2 million it's 350 000 and half by the FLN. and it's NOT a genocide.
I won't repeat it you thick head.

''It's not 2 million it's 350 000 and half by the FLN. and it's NOT a genocide.
I won't repeat it you thick head.''

hahaha 350 thousand? First you deny it, now you admitt it saying 350 000 where sources claim it to be over 1.5 million! So stfu hipocrite.

Rest in Peace George Stephanou

Nukelist: Armenia, arabia, Russia, Europe, Greece, Bulgaria.

FLN claim one million you idiot and they never made study, it's just that one million sound good.

Nobody knows how many Arabs and french died, it range from 150000 to one million. 350000 is more or less accepted by many historians who are generally leftist that wouldn't miss an occasion to spit on france but still keep a scientific culture.

For you it was 2 million yesterday. how is it 1.5 million today ? what are your sources apart your @ss ?

''FLN claim one million you idiot and they never made study, it's just that one million sound good.

Nobody knows how many Arabs and french died, it range from 150000 to one million. 350000 is more or less accepted by many historians who are generally leftist that wouldn't miss an occasion to spit on france but still keep a scientific culture.

For you it was 2 million yesterday. how is it 1.5 million today ? what are your sources apart your @ss ?''

You idiot, it's not me claiming 2 million but historians, Algerians, etc! And anyweay, first you denied the genocide, then you accepted it saying 450 000, now your accepting it saying 1 million? wtf is wrong with you?

Rest in Peace George Stephanou

Nukelist: Armenia, arabia, Russia, Europe, Greece, Bulgaria.

The Algerian War (French: Guerre d'Algérie; 1954-1962), also known as Algerian War of Independence, led to Algeria's independence from France. One of the most important decolonization wars, it was a complex conflict characterized by guerrilla warfare, maquis fighting, terrorism against civilians, use of torture on both sides and counter-terrorism operations by the French Army. Effectively started on 1 November 1954 during the Toussaint Rouge ("Red All Saints' Day"), the conflict shook the French Fourth Republic's (1946–58) foundations and led to its collapse. Under directives from Guy Mollet's (SFIO) government, the French Army initiated a campaign of "pacification" of what was still considered at the time to be fully part of France. This "public order operation" quickly grew to a size where it could be called a full-scale war. Algerians, who at first were mostly in favor of peace and tranquillity, turned increasingly toward the goal of independence, supported by other Arab countries and, more generally, by worldwide public opinion fueled by anti-colonialist ideas. Meanwhile, the French divided themselves on the issues of "French Algeria" (l'Algérie Française), of the maintenance of the status quo, the acceptance of negotiations and of an intermediate status between independence and complete integration in the French Republic, and complete independence. The French army finally obtained a military victory in the war, but the situation had changed and Algerian independence could no longer be forestalled.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Algerian_War

Genocide is the deliberate and systematic destruction, in whole or in part, of an ethnic, racial, religious, or national group.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genocide

The intentional killing of a considerable number of human beings, under circumstances of atrocity or cruelty, or contrary to the usages of civilized people.

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