Name the three least racist European countries, Which do you think is the least racist to foreigners... Heres my list.
1.France: is the least racist country to foriegners cause it is a very liberal country.
2.Germany: Even tho they had problems in the past, todays germans are very hippy like and liberal... Ofcource you'll find some nazis here and there.
3. England... Most brits are used to immigrants like the Americans,but they are still somewhat racist towars them.
This message has been edited by Iranianguy on Aug 8, 2008 2:36 PM
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1.France: is the least racist country to foriegners cause it is a very liberal country.
2.Germany: Even tho they had problems in the past, todays germans are very hippy like and liberal... Ofcource you'll find some nazis here and there.
3. England... Most brits are used to immigrants like the Americans,but they are still somewhat racist towars them.''
hahahahahahahaha, France? UK and Germany??
Are you dumb?
The French discriminate the north Afruicans
The Germans discriminate Turks burning them alive...
The English nationalist party is growing (bmp) and they hate everyone (I live in England so i would know)
least racist is being switzerlands
other euros many many faggotry drunk drugged orgy topless penetration pope priest backside children fellations nudity dildo pole dancing bikini naked american whroes slvts prostitues harltory ALL females of euros americnas being dildo lovers pushing it up cul its truth their nature sinning its they are shamless jungle people?
Italians have a lot of bigots they even tend to tread other Europeans like second class citizens lets not even begin to talk about non Europeans, I know a lot of immigrants working in Italy and they are all trying to get out asap.
I would say
1. Sweden, Even though Swedish people are hardly without prejudice all the immigrants here live safely and have a more or less fair chance at success and certainly at education.
2. Norway, pretty much like Sweden
3. UK maybe, ? not all British people are ultra nationalists.
I don't know how Germany got onto anyones list. Given a free hand, the public in general would love nothing more than to launch one giant pogrom after another against foreigners, especially those of different race. Turks, Kurds and Greeks have been targets in Germany for years.
Quote:I don't know how Germany got onto anyones list. Given a free hand, the public in general would love nothing more than to launch one giant pogrom after another against foreigners, especially those of different race. Turks, Kurds and Greeks have been targets in Germany for years.
I totally agree.
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LatinAmerica, China, and Africa. From all these continents, under whose eyes Europe today raises up her tower of opulence, there has flowed out for centuries toward that same Europe diamonds and oil, silk and cotton, wood and exotic products. Europe is literally the creation of the Third World. The wealth which smothers her is that which was stolen from the underdeveloped peoples. The ports of Holland, the docks of Bordeaux and Liverpool were specialized in the Negro slave trade, and owe their renown to millions of deported slaves. So when we hear the head of a European state declare with his hand on his heart that he must come to the aid of the poor underdeveloped peoples, we do not tremble with gratitude. Quite the contrary; we say to ourselves: "It's a just reparation which will be paid to us."
Germany is less rascist than most countries, things that happen in Denmark or Netherlands would never happen here. There are some pretty brown ****holes in East Germany though.
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A German Soldier doesnt die, he goes to hell and regroups !
I don't know how Germany got onto anyones list. Given a free hand, the public in general would love nothing more than to launch one giant pogrom after another against foreigners, especially those of different race. Turks, Kurds and Greeks have been targets in Germany for years.
Indeed, those Germans just want to make more holocausts. Hell, that's all they ever wanna do, thye were born and bred for it. There whole purpose in life is to rid their lands of immigrants after inviting them in.
Siege of Tobruk - One German POW said: "I cannot understand you Australians. In Poland, France, and Belgium, once the tanks got through the soldiers took it for granted that they were beaten. But you are like demons. The tanks break through and your infantry still keep fighting." Rommel wrote of seeing "a batch of some fifty or sixty Australian prisoners ... marched off close behind us—immensely big and powerful men, who without question represented an elite formation of the British Empire, a fact that was also evident in battle."
bit out of the topic, but the most rascist state in he world r the gulf arab states,they even discriminate against other arabs...shame on them since before the discovery of oil egypt gave them alot of aid...
euro is making least value in 8 years against crashing worthless toilet paper known as american greenback its truth of olympics beginning day
faggotry brings this to euros?
Spain least racist? Dunno about that. They are pretty xenophobic when it comes to non-Europeans.
Siege of Tobruk - One German POW said: "I cannot understand you Australians. In Poland, France, and Belgium, once the tanks got through the soldiers took it for granted that they were beaten. But you are like demons. The tanks break through and your infantry still keep fighting." Rommel wrote of seeing "a batch of some fifty or sixty Australian prisoners ... marched off close behind us—immensely big and powerful men, who without question represented an elite formation of the British Empire, a fact that was also evident in battle."
Italians have a lot of bigots they even tend to tread other Europeans like second class citizens lets not even begin to talk about non Europeans, I know a lot of immigrants working in Italy and they are all trying to get out asap.
I know, I'm proud too.
Thanks for your support! .
But you offend me - you put Italy as the second least racist! Surely we are worse than those prissy Danes!
La Repubblica di Ragusa - La quinta repubblica marinara! Non ti dimenticheremo mai... Italia triumphs again! "If the Italians needed the Germans before, by mid July, the German formations [were] much too weak to stand alone."
- Erwin Rommel the "Desert Fox", 1942
I support the Republic of Georgia in its struggle against the invaders.
but I also hope you don't care we retain the best ones, or not ?
well I am not saying this from personal experience as I have never been to Italy but yes this is what I heard from 4 different families that I know well, and they are not all from middle east. All of them have encountered similar difficulties living in Italy such as getting payed less than Italians doing the same jobs and generally being treated as second class citizens on the job market.
well buddy honestly I don't care one way or the other it is your country and as such its destiny should rest in the hands of Italians, but logically you guys shouldn't let immigrants in at all if you don't wish to accept them as equals.
it is obvious businessmen support immigration to have cheap and less unionized workers and also less informed ones about their rights
but that is simply a question of greediness not nationality
the salaries in Italy are established at national level so if you are regularly employed you cannot get a lower one - if the employer do differently that's obviously illegal
a trick may be maintaining someone at a lower level refusing seniority career promotions - and promoting someone who doesn't merit that, but is a friend of the boss, beforehand or pay him not due overtime
but the question is if capitalists want cheap labor and politicians cheap house servants why the nation as a whole has to welcome the invasion of millions of foreign immigrants ???????
Well imo inviting immigrants as nothing but a source of cheap labor brings nothing but problems for the country it will result in natives becoming unemployed because capitalists would always hire someone who does the job for less money, similar scenario is unfolding in US with their illegal immigrants.
When people are competing for a job under the same terms then imo may the best man win be it immigrant or someone born in that country, or what do you think? I would like to hear your opinion on this.
But Like I said earlier dont you agree that unless your prepared to accept immigrants as equal citizens and give them equal opportunity in the job market you shouldn't let them in at all? because if you do then you would only make them into second class citizen that will burden your economy in many ways.
The integration failure of immigrants in European society has many reasons and they differ from country to country. but its safe to say that there is plenty of blame to spread around both on immigrants and the countries who accept them. To say that all problems are because Europeans are discriminating Racists would be ridiculous and likewise claiming that all the problems are because immigrants do not wish to integrate into European society would be equally ridiculous.
I guess every businessman will look at his own profit and consider nationality relevant only in that logic
and about citizenship you are flying very high
that would mean political vote and changing the real nature of a country considering high numbers of modern immigration and the very alien nature of the newcomers
what about 100 million chinese immigrants transforming Iran in an atheist republic ?
"I guess every businessman will look at his own profit and consider nationality relevant only in that logic
and about citizenship you are flying very high
that would mean political vote and changing the real nature of a country considering high numbers of modern immigration and the very alien nature of the newcomers
what about 100 million chinese immigrants transforming Iran in an atheist republic ?"
sigh well you haven't answered any of my questions and i never talked about citizenship I don't know why you would bring that up, to be honest nothing you wrote here has any relevance to what i wrote I doubt you actually read it.
Either way being an atheist myself I would say 100 million Chinese immigrants transforming Iran into an atheist republic is just what my country needs hehe :D in reality though the only thing anyone atheist or otherwise would achieve by trying to mess with Islam inside Iran is getting themselves shot. It isn't that simple.
Further more not only did you not read what i wrote but you also misunderstood me completely, I am very much against religion and I would never welcome religious influence of any kind that is why I like living in Scandinavia and not in countries like Italy. These swedish folks pretty much have a dislike for all religions
"Well imo inviting immigrants as nothing but a source of cheap labor brings nothing but problems for the country it will result in natives becoming unemployed because capitalists would always hire someone who does the job for less money, similar scenario is unfolding in US with their illegal immigrants."
it is evident immigrants are searched by capitalists simply as a source of cheap labour
but about the unemployment effect - displacement - that is not really significant in a modern industrialized society
the more common effect esperienced yet from late XIXth century is a contaiment of salaries and work conditions in favor of the intersts of the capitalist class
unemployment effects are higher in less advanced societies were unskilled workers can be considered interchangeable
"When people are competing for a job under the same terms then imo may the best man win be it immigrant or someone born in that country, or what do you think? I would like to hear your opinion on this."
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from a logical and fair point of view there is not question, obviusly, the better one will win
in real world that will depends from the aims or whima of the employer
I didn't replay acause that's obvious and your question rhetorical
But Like I said earlier dont you agree that unless your prepared to accept immigrants as equal citizens and give them equal opportunity in the job market you shouldn't let them in at all? because if you do then you would only make them into second class citizen that will burden your economy in many ways.
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and I replayed with the question of citizenship and right of vote cause it is normal in every european country (Germany and Switzerland now substantially enclosed) locals and immigrants are on the same legal terms about their working conditions
and the problem of second class citizenship will appear in the case immigrants are no more temporary resident workers but citisens with political rights
"The integration failure of immigrants in European society has many reasons and they differ from country to country."
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IMHO it is simply they are too much, they are arrived too much fastly and their home culture is very alien to the one of the locals
and on the economical side european counties stopped to rise fastly after the '60ies and in the between the social lift has gone out of service - marginalization is increasing worldwide - so integration has less economical chances then in the past
" but its safe to say that there is plenty of blame to spread around both on immigrants and the countries who accept them. To say that all problems are because Europeans are discriminating Racists would be ridiculous and likewise claiming that all the problems are because immigrants do not wish to integrate into European society would be equally ridiculous."
and the mention I made of Iran and chinese atheism is not directed to you as insult or part of a jihadi-crusader confrontation - I didnt' know/remember you are secular; Chosmelli, but only you are of iranian origin
I mentioned the chinese atheism only as a culture socially opposite to the religious one of the Middle East to illustrate a major difference in cultures who someone would melt inside the european countries
as it would be easy settle communities of nudists in southern Italy or Saudi Arabia
or settlements of turks in Greece
when too much different people meet and have to share the same habitat is is very possible that would end in a fight
Quote:In Normandy there were dangerous factions and nearby enemies like the Angevins, Blois, and Bretons to contain with.
People of Lower Normandy are probably not racist but can be extremely xenophobic. Hell, we like to insult Upper Normans by calling them Parigo(Parisian), tell you how much we like the Parisians puffs. Lower Normans are usually very patriotic and like most French except the Parisians. But we really really don't like foreigners. Except for the Havre, there isn't must immigrants in Lower Normandy. Only a Norman can withstand this dark grim sea weather in winter.
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De Gaulle to the General Koenig, Norman hero of Bir Hakeim: "Hear and tell your troops: the whole of France is watching you, you are our pride."[
I have always been intrigued by the Normans and wanted to know more.
Culturally they say the Normans are the closest to the English, weather, temperament and also drink.
I met a Norman girl a few years back. She was French and was a brunette when she told me was from Normandy I was surprised because I thought everyone there was blonde.
Nordic people in a mainly Gallic country with a Latin language.
Does Normandy still have a distinct dialect and does it still bear even a trace of Nordic influence?
Quote:bit out of the topic, but the most rascist state in he world r the gulf arab states,they even discriminate against other arabs...shame on them since before the discovery of oil egypt gave them alot of aid...
I have been to quite a few countries and spoken to people from every part of the world the Gulf Arab states and the other Arab states to a lesser degree (North Africa is slightly different since it is Beber-Arab) are the most racist people in the world unless you count the caste system in India as a form of racism (which in reality it is, since lighter-skinned races subdued Dravidians and instituted a racial apartheid called the caste system).
In my opinion the least racist countries in Europe are the northern European protestant countries.
1. England
2. Holland
3. Don't know.
The most racist, where a brown person could be beaten up just for entering are some of the eastern European states.
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TURKEY CRACKING DOWN ON KEMALISTS.
Police and Sayin Yasar Bukuanit head of the Turkish army which has authorized the arrest of ERGENOKON terrorists.
Video of Turkish police operations against suspected Kemalist terrorists.
I would say the swedish. I had few swedish friends during my studies in France, and they are more open to other races, even compared to the french. French is very discriminate to the arabs, even in phobia level.
The english? Well, Jeremy Clarkson is a good racist example, even against asian cars.
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They rarely have anything nice to say about British Leyland era cars, Rovers and other mainstream British car companies, watch when they compare them to a Datsun. A fond nostalgia occaisionally but its not a serious show, its entertainment. Asians get off lightly compared to the French and especially the Germans
Though this does not mean much, look at the football teams of Britain and Holland, two similar Ango-Saxon (the Jutes, Angles and Saxons also settled in Holland and the people of East Anglia and Holland are genetically the same) countries where other nations they used to have black players before other European countries (starting off with Viv Anderson and John Barnes in the 80s).
I had a French Tunisian friend who once drove around South London and saw black guys in nice cars and suits, he said he'd never see that in France.
The French are very racist.
England is also the only country I know in Europe to have specific legislation targeting racism.
In the UK, you can find non-white professionals in many fields. I spoke to many French Arabs and blacks who came to the UK and they told me how liberal the UK is in comparison to France.
Economics plays a part too. The southern European countries are not as economically developed as the northern ones so do not have the same tradition of immigration and accepting immigrant communities.
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TURKEY CRACKING DOWN ON KEMALISTS.
Police and Sayin Yasar Bukuanit head of the Turkish army which has authorized the arrest of ERGENOKON terrorists.
Quote:I have always been intrigued by the Normans and wanted to know more.
Culturally they say the Normans are the closest to the English, weather, temperament and also drink.
I met a Norman girl a few years back. She was French and was a brunette when she told me was from Normandy I was surprised because I thought everyone there was blonde.
Nordic people in a mainly Gallic country with a Latin language.
The Nordic ancestry of the Normans has greatly been exaggerated. Yes Lower Normandy probably has more blond than the rest of France except maybe Alsace, Lorraine, britanny and French Flanders but your average Norman would have raven black hair, very pale skin and blue eyes very much like an irish. but Normans are usually of stronger built than the rest of french except maybe the Gascon.
Does Normandy still have a distinct dialect and does it still bear even a trace of Nordic influence?
The only place where the Norman dialect still exists is the channel islands where the population has been isolated. Some confused Quebec accent (most Quebecers descent from Norman immigrants) with Norman dialect but Quebec language is the King language of the 17th century. It looks crude but back then it was class. Scandinavian influence exists in the houses. But the same influence can be seen in Burgundy as well. I'm not entirely sure if there are truely Scandinavian.
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De Gaulle to the General Koenig, Norman hero of Bir Hakeim: "Hear and tell your troops: the whole of France is watching you, you are our pride."[
In the UK, you can find non-white professionals in many fields. I spoke to many French Arabs and blacks who came to the UK and they told me how liberal the UK is in comparison to France.
Yet the UK suffers domestic strife with the immigrants. Doesn't make sense to me.
Siege of Tobruk - One German POW said: "I cannot understand you Australians. In Poland, France, and Belgium, once the tanks got through the soldiers took it for granted that they were beaten. But you are like demons. The tanks break through and your infantry still keep fighting." Rommel wrote of seeing "a batch of some fifty or sixty Australian prisoners ... marched off close behind us—immensely big and powerful men, who without question represented an elite formation of the British Empire, a fact that was also evident in battle."
The least racist country is Turkey marking the top by a clear distance.
If Kurds where part of Germany and did the same teror acts as in Turkey, the Germans would have heated up their furnaces decades ago! In Turkey these terorists still walk around unpunished.
The World Condemns Rome, But Europe Is The Problem
By Barbie Nadeau | NEWSWEEK
From the magazine issue dated Jun 9, 2008
The trendy Rome neighborhood of Pigneto was invaded last month by swastika-wearing thugs who beat Chinese, Indian and Bangladeshi shopkeepers and chanted "Get out, bastard foreigners." Coming after violent attacks on Romas in Milan and Naples, the attacks were condemned by authorities but also, it seems, inspired by them. Prime Minister Silvio Berlusconi came to power promising to get tough on immigrants, and rules in coalition with the Northern League, which has called publicly for violence against immigrants. Rome's new mayor, Gianni Alemanno, won on a plan to expel 20,000 immigrants and so far has expelled several hundred.
Italy is a frontline state that receives more legal and illegal immigrants than any other in Europe, but now it's in the spotlight for xenophobia. Amnesty International last week warned that a "climate of discrimination" encouraged by top politicians "threatens to turn Italy into a dangerous country." Laura Boldrini, a spokeswoman for the United Nations High Commissioner for Refugees, compared the violence in Naples, where TV cameras caught attackers bragging about "ethnic cleansing," to the Balkan wars. "We never thought we'd see such images in Italy," said Boldrini. The U.S. Anti-Defamation League warned that official failure to condemn the attacks would send a signal that "xenophobic violence can act with impunity in Italy." Spain, which receives the second most immigrants in Europe after Italy, distanced itself from acts of racism in Italy.
But is this an Italian problem? The violence is exclusively Italian right now. The political environment is not. The European Union's human-rights office condemned the racism of Italy's new laws, which make illegal entry a crime punishable by up to 18 months' detention, and subject legal immigrants to deportation if they cannot prove they have a job or adequate income. But Britain, Switzerland, France and Germany already have similar laws in place. The deportation raids launched by the Berlusconi government are common practice in France and Germany. France expelled 24,000 immigrants in 2007 (up from 10,000 in 2002), and vows to focus on immigration when it holds the rotating EU presidency later this year. Its leaked plans warn that "Europe does not have the means to welcome with dignity all those who see an El Dorado in it." And the lesson of Italy is that cracking down is popular at home. Berlusconi's popularity rating shot up 17 points to 50 percent after his anti-immigrant plans were revealed. The world may condemn Italy, but Europe is likely to follow.
Mario I like the topless photos of Antonella better
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Quouting the biggest danish newspaper Politiken: If it was WILD when Turkey turned 0-1 against switzerland into 2-1, and if it was INSANE when the Turks
went from 0-2 against the Czechs and turned it into 3-2, which words will then describe the Euro-Quater final against Croatia?
I beleive that Ireland is the least racist Country in Europe,up to a few years ago there were very few Afro humanoids in Ireland.In the last count there was aleast 40,000 Nigerian here, that does not include all the other Country in Africa.We have i think 68 diferent nationalities livng in Ireland now, some good for the country and some not so good.
What a crap discussion because Europe is racist! Born place of racism and discrimination.
US could be very racist if an average US citizen would have the required knowledge for being racist (ie. what is a race? which races exist on earth? etc.. )
For Turks, the homeland isn't Turkey, nor yet Turkistan. Their country is a vast, eternal land: Turan!
-Ziya Gokalp-
Germans are very far from any meanings concerns on ethnic based racists
even in former DDR -East German states, locals seemd very open minded and hospitable to foreign tourists.
That's why I supported Leipzig during IOC 2012 1st round bid
(other bidders just were already too much known so..)
but I was very surprised when other Europeans including even West Germans underestimated those culturally
rich Sachsen regions.
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If you're an affluent person of good character you're probably going to be accepted in any European country.
No one likes poor, uneducated masses of people causing crime and putting strain on the welfare system. It is even easier to dislike poor, uneducated masses when they are foreigners who can't even speak the language of their adopted home.
I vote for France or Holland. I read somewhere that 50percent of French citizens are immigrants or the descendants of immigrants. Holland seems to think its a miniature USA and sees itself as a melting pot.
there is no least racist european country all are equally topless nudity western christofascist murderous lewd homosexual bikin nekkid dancing pope priest penetration children backside fellation topless drunk drugged orgy pole dildo dancing mothers sex strangers fellation children astray its jungle culture of stupidity?
It is ridiculous to consider Germany as liberal . France is certainly not racist..The president is an Hungarian Jew,
the minister of Justice is a full blood Arab woman..Something unthinkable in Germany..
I know this about holland.
They are a country with 16 million that are very into football.
Alot of football clubs have Blacks and immigrants. So There is no Racism roots among supporters because they are cheering for non dutch.
So that leaves out the football scene where alot of racism could occur.
I also heard that racism is strongly disliked there and that companies and schools have to accept immigrants by law and spread it across the country.
This eliminates any racism.
Yeah, that why we took the most refugees from all sorts of Crisis Areas, although Germany is surrounded by "safe" states and would have to take NO SINGLE refugee according to Schengen.
Yeah, that why we took the most refugees from all sorts of Crisis Areas, although Germany is surrounded by "safe" states and would have to take NO SINGLE refugee according to Schengen.
BS..It is irrelevant how many refugees Germany took pal what really matters is that whether these refugees feel welcome or not. If you burn their houses and beat them to death ......The whole world watched the events in Rostock few years back..
The US has far bigger racial Problems than Germany. And a lot more of these kind of incidents.
There are about 70 incidents a Month in the whole in Germany. 600 incidents involving violence in all of 2007. Now on 82.000.000 pop I wouldnt call that extreme or out of order.
the strongest taking advantagethe strongest taking advantagethe strongest taking advantage
September 24 2008, 9:54 PM
you say/quote...
"LatinAmerica, China, and Africa. From all these continents, under whose eyes Europe today raises up her tower of opulence, there has flowed out for centuries toward that same Europe diamonds and oil, silk and cotton, wood and exotic products. Europe is literally the creation of the Third World. The wealth which smothers her is that which was stolen from the underdeveloped peoples. The ports of Holland, the docks of Bordeaux and Liverpool were specialized in the Negro slave trade, and owe their renown to millions of deported slaves. So when we hear the head of a European state declare with his hand on his heart that he must come to the aid of the poor underdeveloped peoples, we do not tremble with gratitude. Quite the contrary; we say to ourselves: "It's a just reparation which will be paid to us."
Slavery is an invention traceless in time....but very much exploited in Africa even before europeans arrived there ....to even to talk about
Incas made an empire filled with blood and slavery, just stopped by the Spanish diseases ...the Chinese did huge massacres almost all their existence...the mongols..there are not enough horrific words to describe what they did ... The Zulu tribes in south Africa...The Turks against the Armenians ....the list is endless and borderless and among all races .... those were the times...rude/cruel and always the strongest taking advantage to the weakest ...
even in modern times without any intervention from the rich countries, e. g., the western civilized world the horror happens!!!!
see this list: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genocides_in_history
NOW read this very carefully .... that ended when the Europeans realized the the aftermath of WW-II....only when touch Hell you appreciate peace.
damn Arabs/Muslims are trapped in the limbo ....and from there you cannot scape because religion blurs your path as did to Europeans in the dark ages...that why we separate religion from state affairs.
By the way ...I traveled over almost all countries in Europe and the least racist is: tcham tachm ... none!!
all countries in the world are ****ing racists ...what exists is that in some countries they fake better than in others!! .... for sure that the most racist are the Arab countries...they even don't consider women as a race!!!
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I support the Republic of Georgia in its struggle against the invaders.
