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Western Reports on Greek Atrocities in Cyprus!!!!!!!

September 10 2008 at 9:09 AM
SonofTroy  (Login EmpireofOttoman)
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“Daily Sketch” newspaper, in its issue dated 2 January 1964, carried an article by Louis Kirby about the “Genocide” by the Greek-Greek Cypriot side, aiming at the Turks in 1964. A passage is given below from the article:

“And when I came across the Turkish homes they were an appalling sight. Apart from the walls, they just did not exist. I doubt if a napalm bomb attack could have created more devastation. I counted 40 blackened brick and concrete “shells” that had once been homes. Each house had been deliberately set on fire by petrol. Under red tile roofs which had caved in, I found a twisted mass of bed springs, children’s cot and cribs and ankle deep grey ashes of what had once been chairs, tables, wardrobes.

In the neighbouring village of Ayios Vassilios, a mile away, I counted 16 wrecked and burned out homes, they were all Turkish. From this village more than 100 Turks had also vanished. In neither villages did I find a scrap of damage to any Greek house.”

In its “Nicosia” origin report dated 3 January 1964, Bernard Jordan, a British journalist who was one of the many foreign eyewitnesses of the events in Cyprus, had the following to say:

“The Turkish houses in the village were set on fire by launching arrows wrapped with kerosene-wetted pieces of cloth. About one hundred armed EOKA members were wandering insidiously among the villages..”

Below are given certain excerpts from the reports of foreign journalists who witnessed the “Genocide” carried out by the Greek-Greek Cypriot duo against the Turkish Cypriots.

“The Times” of 4 January 1964

“The Imam of the Omorphita (K.Kaymakli) village and his crippled and blind son were found today dead in their beds. The Turks who returned to Omorphita found Imam HÜSEYIN IÐNECI riddled with machine-gun bullets.

It is said that Imam, having performed his prayers at the mosque, returned home and went to bed. Imam HÜSEYIN refused to leave his crippled son alone and stayed with him. The Turks say that they found further five corpses covered with earth.”

“New York Herald Tribune” of 13 January 1964

“I was allowed to go around the besieged Turkish sector. I was taken to the Kumsal area and, walking on the broken pieces of glass, I entered into a green-white house that had a garden of orange trees and around which a stray black-and-white car was wandering. As if the bathroom of this was a slaughterhouse, everywhere was covered with blood and a woman and three children were lying in blood in the bath. There was another dead woman in the adjacent room.”

“Daily Telegraph” of 14 January 1964

“Among the 20 refugees who were brought today from Nicosia to London were also two British women who came with children. One of these was afraid to disclose her identity because her husband stayed behind. She said that she witnessed the shooting and killing of five Turks outside her apartment flat by the Greek Cypriot police. She described how these unarmed Turks were machine-gunned while their hands were up.”

“Daily Mail” of January 1964

“Silent crowds gathered tonight outside the Red Crescent hospital in the Turkish sector of Nicosia, as the bodies of nine Turks found crudely buried outside the village of Ayios Vassilios, 13 miles away, were brought to the hospital under an escort of the (British) Parachute Regiment. Three more bodies, including one of a woman, were discovered nearby but they could not be moved.

Turks guarded by (the British) paratroops are still trying to locate the bodies of 20 more believed to have been buried on the same sight. All are believed to have been killed during fighting around the village at Christmas.

It is thought that a family of seven Turks who disappeared from the village may be buried here. Their house was found burnt and grenades had been dropped through the roof.

Shallow graves had apparently been hurriedly scooped by a bulldozer. The bodies appeared to have been piled in two or three metres deep. All had been shot.

One man had his arms still tied behind his legs in a crouching position and had been shot through the head. A stomach injury indicated that a grenade may have been thrown into his lap. The search for the bodies began after it had been learnt that about 12 Turks were buried on the site which is an old Turkish cemetery. It was assumed that the bodies would be those of wounded men who had died in Nicosia hospital, but all those so far recovered were fully dressed and evidently taken to straight to the rough graves after fighting.”

Daily Herald of 31 December 1963

“We went to the private clinic of Dr. Nail Adiloglu, together with other British journalists. In a room for 14, there were forty injured. We noticed that there was neither fear nor tears under the circumstances. I saw that 24-year old Ayse Ibrahim, shot in the back, lied in the same bed with her four-year old daughter whose knee was dismembered with bullets. The mother had a stroke and her child would not be able to walk for the rest of her life. In the meantime I was the bodies of three Turkish children who were killed and thrown in the same bath. And their mother was shot dead in another room. This was a horrible scene.”

Daily Telegraph of 14 January 1964

“This evening, we went to the Turkish sector of Nicosia, where 200-300 Turks were killed within nine days. We were the first Western reporters who went there. We have seen there indescribably horrifying scenes.”

Il Giorno of 14 January 1964

“It is thought that the seven-member Turkish family who disappeared from the village may be buried here. Their house was set on fire and demolished with grenades.”

Le Figaro of 15-16 February 1964

“If Turkey has not reinforced her contingent in Cyprus so far, this is a roof of Turkey’s patience. Her right to so is undeniable. If the international agreements mean anything, Turkey can save the Turkish Cypriots from further massacres. This is the ugliest form of racial discrimination. In order to blur the issue it has been alleged that both sides are to blame. However, the real culprit is the Greek Cypriot organisation called EOKA.”

Christian Science Monitor of 17 February 1964

“Robed and bearded Archbishop Makarios has the Byzantine ability of covering up the realities. The Makarios Government has deliberately started the clashes. He is determined to destroy the Turkish Cypriots.”

Christian Science Monitor of 19 February 1964

“Greek Cypriots pursue a genocidal policy against the Turkish Cypriots.”

Damnation of the murders committed by the Greek-Greek Cypriot duo against the Turks in Cyprus between 21 December 1963 and 4 March 1965 will not be lifted from them, so long as Hellenism exists.

The well-known British writer H. Scott Gibbons is yet another eyewitness to the Greek-Greek Cypriot atrocities. In one passage of his book “Peace Without Honour”, he recounts the massacre of 1963 Christmas evening as follows:

“Sounds of gunfire and rifle butts were battering the locked doors; the people were poured into the streets. A Turkish old man aged seventy was awakened by a cracking sound on his front door. When he rose from his bed, he faced many armed men who crowded the room. They asked him, ‘Have you got any children?’ The man, in an scared manner, said, ‘Yes, I have’. One of those who broke into the house ordered the old man, ‘Send him outside’. The old man had two sons aged 19 and 17 and a daughter aged 15. They were hurriedly dressed and came out. The raiding Greek Cypriots lined them up in front of the garden wall and machine-gunned them dead.

In the same raid, in yet another house, a 13-year old boy’s hands were tied behind his knees and was thrown into a room. While the Greek Cypriots were looting the house, they were beating up and kicking the boy. And while departing from the house, they shot him dead from the back of his head.”

On 21 July 1974, Greek Cypriots picked up 25 boys aged between 13 and 16 in Limassol and took them to a briquette factory. According to the eye-witnesses (who will never be able to wipe off this terrifying scene from their mind for the rest of their lives), while they were killing boys by crushing their heads under pressing machines, they were shouting, “That’s how we eradicate the Turkish race.”

Despite all these massacres and killings, the Greek-Greek Cypriot duo finds the audacity to allege that 1619 (a number wholly concocted by themselves) Greeks and Greek Cypriots had been taken as prisoners and killed by the Turks and to thrown challenges over it without any sense of shame.

What the eyewitnesses account about those days today are unbelievable. One such eyewitness is SALAHI HILAL, who was taken a prisoner at Dogruyol area and whose flesh was cut and his blood sucked, by Greek Cypriots. He describes the Greek-Greek Cypriot atrocity that is not compatible with any principle of war, as follows:

“Greeks and Greek Cypriots who captured me as a prisoner, drew out their daggers from their belts and became to cut the fleshy parts of my arms and shoulder-heads. In the meantime, a Greek officer came close to us asking the Greek Cypriots, ‘Has any of you not drunk yet the Turkish blood?’. Some of them shouted, ‘We have not drunk it yet’. Upon this, together with the Greek officer, 10-15 Greek Cypriot soldiers began to suck the blooding oozing from the injuries opened on my flesh. While I was about to be fainted, they took me outside. I saw a friend of mine who was a prisoner in their hands, whose hands and feet were tied up. Meanwhile, a Greek Cypriot drew out the grenade in his belt, removed its safety pin and threw it on to the imprisoned Turkish soldier. The poor man was cut into pieces. I did not want to live any longer..”

Genocide aimed at the Turkish Cypriots is full of incredible barbarisms. Murders committed against the Turks are countless and hair-raising.

As if the blood they have shed in 1960s is not enough, they continued with their murders in 1974 that have taken the dimension of massacres. Just as the Serbs have done in Bosnia, the Greeks in Cyprus have killed defenceless civilians just out of fun.

Let us give some examples:

20 July 1974: Greek militants raid the Alaminos village in Nicosia and machine-gun to death 14 hand-tied people, most of whom are children and elderly.

21 July 1974: Greek Cypriots raid the village of Gaziveren in Nicosia and indiscriminately open fire on to each Turk they gun on their way. Result: six are killed, of whom four are women and 22 injured.

21 July 1974: 26 unarmed Turks in Limassol are killed. 1800 people are taken as hostages.

23 July 1974: At Angolem in Nicosia Greek Cypriots first torture eight Turks, including women, children and elderly, and then are killed by shooting them through the head.

13 August 1974: At Kithasi village in Paphos, an old couple was killed with an axe.

14 August 1974: At Tokhni and Mari villages in Larnaca, 50 and 40 Turks are massacred and put into mass-graves, respectively.

14-15 August 1974: In Famagusta district, Greek Cypriots line up and kill with machine-guns and then bury en masse and then burn with petrol, 54 people of the 57-person Turkish population of the Atlilar (Aloa) village, the entire 57 people of the Sandallar (Sandallaris) village and the entire 82 people of the Murataga (Maratha) village, not even sparing 2-3 year-old children.

15 August 1974: In Paphos, two children aged five and three are used by the Greek Cypriot soldiers as shooting targets and are killed with hundreds of shots. This scene almost drive mad the eyewitnesses.

16 August 1974: At Ayios Ioannis village in Paphos, seven Turks, one of whom is a woman, are tortured to death.

12 November 1974: Three children aged between 3 and 16 and two women are killed while going to the Turkish area from the Greek area.

These are the murder-cases by the Greek-Greek Cypriot due, determined by the Unites Nations documents. Atrocities of the Greek-Greek Cypriot camp are not that much only. There are more than one thousand Turkish Cypriots who, in the period of 1963-74, have gone missing without leaving any trace behind, whose bodies have been burnt and buried or put into mass-graves in the Greek-controlled areas.

If those who force today the Turkish Cypriots to live intermingled with the Greek Cypriots, who exercise pressure on Turkey, who impose embargoes on the Turkish Cypriots wish to be a bit “fair”, they should come to the TRNC and see the realities themselves.


They should see people: whose organs were cut and who were forced at gunpoint to eat them; whose chests were incised and crosses were engraved on them; whose family members were killed before their eyes, and who try to survive despite all their pains and sufferings.

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Landos
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Re: Western Reports on Greek Atrocities in Cyprus!!!!!!!

September 16 2008, 3:38 AM 

More lies from the nation of lies and denial.


 
 


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Re: Western Reports on Greek Atrocities in Cyprus!!!!!!!

September 16 2008, 9:42 AM 

LOL coming from a country with one of the worst genocides against its name in human history. What a joke.




 
 

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Re: Western Reports on Greek Atrocities in Cyprus!!!!!!!

September 17 2008, 4:00 AM 

Turks excel in inventing lies to justify their actions. Prior to the invasion of Cyprus in 1974 their military intelligence went into overtime inventing stories of GC atrocities against Turk Cypriots. They were mostly lies and vast exagerrations. Same thing happened just prior to their anti-Greek Pogrom in 1955 and the forced emigrations of Greeks in 1964.




 
 

Armenia-Sacra
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Re: Western Reports on Greek Atrocities in Cyprus!!!!!!!

September 17 2008, 5:01 PM 

You know what's funny? When the western newpapers write about the Armenian Genocide, the turks start barking "IMPERIALIST PROPAGANDA"..then after 2 minutes u see them bringing the same sources as EVIDENCE to back up their own claims!

No wait...my mistake! tht's not funny...that's tragic!





http://www.genocide-museum.am/
http://www.armenian-genocide.org/

 
 

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Re: Western Reports on Greek Atrocities in Cyprus!!!!!!!

September 21 2008, 10:01 PM 

Would you rather have the Turks bring in their own sources to back up their claims?

 
 
Nikephoros
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Re: Western Reports on Greek Atrocities in Cyprus!!!!!!!

September 21 2008, 10:17 PM 

Dirty muslim liars make claims wherever they are. They like to pretend to be the victim, bitch, moan, create a false impression for international consumption, but for internal consumption in their society their racism and imperialism is so obvious.

The reality is muslims are responsible for most serious global conflicts in some way. Muslims manipulate the Western concept of religion and try to portray themselves as a religious group. The reality is that Islam is a total ideology with military, legal, and religious components. One of the precepts of Islam is that muslims must be the dominant community wherever they live and others must have a inferior status as peoples of the book and accept the dhimmi contract to live(in an inferior status to non-muslims). Islam contradicts human rights and international law, but muslims always manipulate these concept that they reject to create a false impression for international opinion.

This is what fueled the conflict in Cyprus, because fanatic Mohammedian/Kemalist Turkish Cypriots could not accept to be a minority even when they were an actual minority. So they sabotaged the Republic of Cyprus using the generous veto powers their community had politically and then went to live in muslim seperatist enclaves and boycott christian businesses(even though they were an 18 percent minority). Today Turks like to bitch about the international isolation of the TRNC, but they have decided to be isolated the second they left the ROC government, created enclaves and boycotted Christian businesses. Maybe their fellow ragheads in the Organisation of Islamic States can help their poor fellows out. Or maybe not.

Wherever the muslim world border non-muslims, muslim sh1theads almost always have a conflict:
Greece/Turkey
India/Pakistan
Singapore/Malayasia
Armenia/Azeribaijan
Serbians/Kosovo Albanians
Israel/Palestinians and neighboring Arab states
Republic of Cyprus/ Turkey and TRNC
Bosnia
Thailand/fanatic muslim minority

Then there are the many inter-Islamic conflicts since even one muslim sect feels it must be dominant and humilitate what it feels is a heterdox sect in a similar manner to how they feel they must humilitate non-muslims.

Muslim victims, what a joke... You cannot fool the whole world, stupid Mohammedians!

The day there is no Islam and no muslims, the world will be alot more peaceful. Insallah!

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I thought that this might be just Turkish journalists creating a bullsh*it story also. Probably is seeing as our journalists lie a lot.


    
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Re: Western Reports on Greek Atrocities in Cyprus!!!!!!!

September 21 2008, 10:36 PM 

At least we didnt sit back and moan like Greek whores, we made them pay. You step on our toes, we cut your dick off and feed it to your mothers........no mercy, let this be a lesson to all of you!

Greek Cypriot men on their way to Turkey to die!



Greek Cypriot mothers crying after their bastard sons...


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Re: Western Reports on Greek Atrocities in Cyprus!!!!!!!

September 21 2008, 10:42 PM 

Shut your mouth MR sandy vagina. Greek gyspy.
Islam is the second Largest religion in the world so ofcourse the odds of more muslims in battle are higher than to say the jews.
Do you see me listing WOI/WOII and blame christianity for it? And the ODDS WOIII will spark is another christian product. So i would suggest you to keep riding your donkeys on your greek islands and shut the hell up. Everything owned by the GREEKS if it is internet or any other kind of communication they always have to whine about how much they got owned.
But if you bring the subject ISLAM with your little flame wars i as a chechen will break your skull.
In real life ofcourse. So i would say be happy for technology for pussies like yourself to be hidden.










 
 
Nikephoros
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Re: Western Reports on Greek Atrocities in Cyprus!!!!!!!

September 21 2008, 10:53 PM 

Cyprus received a very crippled Independence in 1960. The Cyprus National(Greek Cypriot only) started to form only in 1967, before that all there was for a military was a quasi civil police force where Turkish Cypriots formed 40 percent of the personnel(despite being an only 18 percent minority) which totaled 2000 men! So you are proud to defeat a country in 1974 that had been independent for 14 years that had a population of only 573,566 and its military only had 7 years to form. Of that population 103,822 were traitorous muslim Turkish Cypriots living in enclaves and manning the TMT forces helping to form a bridgeheads for the Turkish army marine beach-heads and paradrops.

And that is not all, the Greek Cypriot leftists(who believe Marxist bull****s like all working class is one nation) were in political power, and they controlled most Greek Cypriot politics sabotaging the formation of the National Guard instead they created their militia staffed with Greek Cypriot leftist losers. Before Turkey invaded the leftist Greek Cypriot Epikouri militia was fighting with the National Guard of Cyprus. Instead of defending themselves from Turkey and Turkish Cypriots, Greek Cypriot leftist losers where lost in a Marxist fantasy land where Turkish Cypriots were their brothers and their only threat was from "fanatics" of the Greek Cypriot right.

Now you brag for this! What a loser muslim nation!

I honestly could care for less for the mess Greek Cypriot leftist losers get themselves into vis a vis Turkey. Frankly I cannot stand them. All I know is that in the Peloponnese(my land) no dirty muslim is opening a prayer rug.

TurkoTrash immigrant in the USA, DirtyDirtyBird, does it hurt your ass to see so many churches in the USA where you live and you cannot destroy them?

Do not worry the second that muslims lose the ability to fool world opinion, they will get their ass kicked back to the 6th Century BCE, just keep acting like you do now fanatic Mohammedians (and Kemalists). You need the West, the West needs you like it needs a turd. The second you cannot not any longer fool us, we will wise up and not accept you as immigrants, not arm you for free, not train you in any advanced military technology or tactics and you slugs will be left to slither on your own.

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nappyheadedHO
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The Conquerors (Turkey)

Re: Western Reports on Greek Atrocities in Cyprus!!!!!!!

September 21 2008, 11:24 PM 

Nikefartos...stop trying to make this about religion, we Turks have lived side by side with Christians and Jews in peace for centuries, its Greeks who are the religious zealots not Turks! The center of the Greek Orthodox Church is in Istanbul Turkey, now tell us how many functioning mosques there are in Athens?

Frankly we could care less if our enemy is Muslim, Chrisitian or Jewish, they all bleed the same for us!


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Nikephoros
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Re: Western Reports on Greek Atrocities in Cyprus!!!!!!!

September 21 2008, 11:47 PM 

According National Geographic october 1915:
http://www.armenews.com/article.php3?id_article=36251
Article: "Armenia and the Armenians" by Hestor Donald JenkinsL

page 354 (on PDF reader it is page 28/34)

Quote:Hestor Donald Jenkins
"In the courts of justice the word of an Armenian will not be taken against that of a muslim. The Armenian trader or peasant has to pursue his calling recognizing that he cannot travel freely and that he will be taxed so heavily and unfairly that he can scarcily make his living, and then when his struggle of the year is nearly over perhaps the Kurds sweep down from the mountains and seize his home for their winter shelter, take his crops, and even carry off his daughters. No Armenian's life, his property, nor his daughters have been safe in Turkey for over a century."



That is your living in peace with muslims. Muslims always have to humilitate non-muslims and treat them like inferiors and this has never stopped not even in our times. Heck, that is the whole reason DirtyBird was trying to act tough with muslim josh bringing up the Turkish invasion of Cyprus(a tactic to humilitate and brag). Really when you examine the facts anyway you see Turkey is a military joke if they think invading Cyprus at the time was some huge achievement.

Muslim/Kemalist fag your days of humilitating non-muslims are long over if you plan on living in the USA. Same with all you other Islamic ragheads living in the West comfortably making your aggressive military josh, supporting jihadis, bitching about your unfair treatment(when damn well as muslims you know you cannot respect human rights or multi-culturalism).

You can fool alot of people with alot of things, but muslims cannot fool me by playing the victim or harping of their mythical tolerance.

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I thought that this might be just Turkish journalists creating a bullsh*it story also. Probably is seeing as our journalists lie a lot.


    
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The Conquerors (Turkey)

Re: Western Reports on Greek Atrocities in Cyprus!!!!!!!

September 22 2008, 12:01 AM 

Nikefartos...I can tell that the Turks humiliation of your kind has been total, even still you act like servile lap dogs by bringing up the grievances from centuries ago.

I guess thats what happens when you live under the yoke of a superior race for centuries, my advice to you is to GET OVER IT!

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Nikephoros
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Hellenic Hoplites

Re: Western Reports on Greek Atrocities in Cyprus!!!!!!!

September 22 2008, 12:08 AM 

Kemalist idiot, I live in the USA same as you.

I see churches everyday. Does not bother me. But as a muslim fanatic kemalist it probably does bother you that you cannot humilitate Christians. Muslims are not a normal group, they feel they have to humilitate others.

So I do not know how Turkish diaspora trashes are bragging about:
"having to live under Turks for 100s of years"(another example muslim military josh bragging and attempt to humilitate non-muslims that fails)

Where I am from in Greece the muslim military garrison and their families left the Peloponnese after Greek Indpendence or were slaughtered.

Your Turkish diaspora trash self is living under non-muslim rule by choice because you know what a sh1t time it is live in your muslim homeland for anything besides a vacation, just like your other muslim brothers copy and pasting jihad sites and cheerleading the muslim jihads from their comfort of Western diaspora. Believe me you are living under non-Turks now unless your dumb trashy, no arguments, only capable of flaming self thinks Turks run the USA. Self-ridicule and stupidity beyond all proportion or bounds, most Turks on this forum are sublime idiots.

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The Conquerors (Turkey)

Re: Western Reports on Greek Atrocities in Cyprus!!!!!!!

September 22 2008, 12:19 AM 

Nikefartos...if I were you I wouldnt assume anything about me, you'll just end up making an ass out of yourself! I dont carry my religion on my sleeve like a pathetic little c.u.n.t. like you and I dont care if my enemy subscribes to Mohammed, Jesus or Moses, makes absolutely no difference and the fact that you've referred to me as a Muslim/Kemalist fanatic shows what a clueless twat you are since those labels are usually mutually exclusive!

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Nikephoros
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Re: Western Reports on Greek Atrocities in Cyprus!!!!!!!

September 22 2008, 12:33 AM 

I will give you a history lesson for free, for your stupid self:

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From the Foreward by Wyndham Deedes

"As to the value of his [Gokalp's] ideas, they are not so difficult to appraise -- for they can be traced in many of the institutions of his country, in the principles embodied in the Six Arrows [of Ataturk], and they are reflected in the present-day spirit of his people." [1]

From the Preface by Uriel Heyd:
" ... what is the relation between the opinions of the Young Turks and the official ideology of the present day Turkish Republic(Kemalism)."

[1] Heyd, Uriel. Foundations of Turkish Nationalism: The Life and Teachings of Ziya Gökalp. (Luzac & Company Ltd., 1950) pp. viii.
[2] Ibid. pp. xi.
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"Gokalp gave "the nation" an important mystical component. In his work, "he transferred to the nation the divine qualities he had found in society, replacing the belief in God with the belief in the nation: and so nationalism became a religion."[43] The national is deified, thus expanding Durkheim's idea that "society can do as it pleases." So, if a nation perceives iteself in danger, it feels no moral responsibility in its response to that danger. The Unionist "scientific approach" gained a "sacred" character through Gokalp's theories."

[43.] Heyd, Uriel. Foundations of Turkish Nationalism: The Life and Teachings of Ziya Gökalp. p. 57.
cited in: Akcam, Taner. A shameful act : the Armenian genocide and the question of Turkish responsibility (Metropolitan Books; 2006) pp. 88-9.
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Ayse Kadioglu, "The Paradox of Turkish Nationalism and the Construction of Official Identity." Middle Eastern Studies, Vol. 32, no. 2 (April 1996)
http://www.mtholyoke.edu/acad/intrel/ayse.htma
...

The theme that a patriotic Turk should try to achieve a balance between the benefits of the West and the East by opting for adopting the science and technology of the former and the spirituality of the latter is repeated quite often in the schooling system designed by the educational establishment in Turkey. This difficult endeavour is almost like a mission for every patriotic Turk. ...

Ziya Gokalp was influenced by all of these trends. Yet, he envisaged a middle road in the tradition of Namik Kemal: `that only the material civilization of Europe should be taken and not its non-material aspects'.(21) ...

(21.) Niyazi Berkes (ed.), Turkish Nationalism and Western Civilization: Selected Essays of Ziya Gokalp (Westport, Connecticut: Greenwood Press, Publishers, 1959), p.21.
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Gok Alp was then somewhat of a visionary who announced a "New Life" (Yeni Hayat) for the Turkish race. In contradistinction with the purport¬edly decaying Europeans, the Turks would strengthen themselves by starting "a new civilization" endowed with "genuine values" and characterized by economic achievements:
[This "New Life"] will show that the civilizations of Europe were based on rotten, sick, putrid foundations. These civilizations are condemned to decline, annihilation. The genuine civilization is the Turkish civilization which will start only with the development of the New Life. The Turkish race, unlike other races, has not been corrupted by alcohol and dissipation. The Turkish blood has been steeled, rejuvenated in glorious battles.

Source:
Astourian, Stephan H. 1999. "Modern Turkish Identity and the Armenian Genocide:From Prejudice to Racist Nationalism"
From the book Remembrance and Denial: The Case of the Armenian Genocide
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Tamam, Kemalist loser idiot?

Kemalism(official ideology imposed by the Turkish state) and Turkish nationalism only wants to exploit the science and progress of the West without accepting its core values. The core values of Turkish nationalism and the Kemalist state ideology are Islamic. The "Turkey promotion machine" likes to export the image that Turkey is secular but that is just a joke. In Turkey the non-muslim minorities are humilitated, Kudish muslims even are humilitated, because the racistic, imperalist Turkish core values of Turkish nationalism and the Kemalist state ideology are Islamic in their genesis and unchanged since Ottoman times. Despite the secularism allegations of the infamous "Turkey promotion machine".

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nappyheadedHO
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Re: Western Reports on Greek Atrocities in Cyprus!!!!!!!

September 22 2008, 1:16 AM 

the muslim majority are also oppressed by the kemalists but in a more subtle manner if they did it in a extremem manner the army would have to cleanse over half the population lol

 
 

Dienekis
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Re: Western Reports on Greek Atrocities in Cyprus!!!!!!!

September 22 2008, 9:47 AM 



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Quoting a Turkish forumer:
"It's a well known fact that most of the boys or girls living in south-eastern Turkey are losing their virginities to horses or dogs of their villages, so I don't think this will suprise any Turk in this forum; we are used to these kinda news..."

 
 

nappyheadedHO
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Re: Western Reports on Greek Atrocities in Cyprus!!!!!!!

September 22 2008, 11:52 AM 

Dirty bird just for making fun and swearing at ppl that suffered and mothers
that cried for losing their sons i wish your mother to cry over your coffin.
I wish to you to taste your own medicine sick bastard.

 
 

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Re: Western Reports on Greek Atrocities in Cyprus!!!!!!!

September 22 2008, 12:29 PM 

3000 Greeks dissapeared


Ahh these sly little bastards unawared of how they're about to die





Captured Greeks on their way to DEATH








Greek Cypriot mothers crying after their bastard sons...







SURRENDER NOW TO BE EXECUTED LATER.. EITHER WAY YOU WILL END DIEING MUHHHAHAHAHHA!!!










Orthodox papa, would you like fries with that?












Dead Greeks scattered around tanks





Turks victorious as usual







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This message has been edited by karabasan1974 on Sep 22, 2008 12:38 PM
This message has been edited by karabasan1974 on Sep 22, 2008 12:37 PM


 
 

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Re: Western Reports on Greek Atrocities in Cyprus!!!!!!!

September 22 2008, 12:44 PM 




Ahh the smell of victory and Freedom.
















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nappyheadedHO
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Re: Western Reports on Greek Atrocities in Cyprus!!!!!!!

September 22 2008, 2:08 PM 

Dienekis.....The Sun???? Thats your source!!!!...LOL, you might as well use a Mickey Mouse Comic book as your source next time!

I Hail The Flag

 
 


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Re: Western Reports on Greek Atrocities in Cyprus!!!!!!!

September 22 2008, 2:10 PM 

"Dirty bird just for making fun and swearing at ppl that suffered and mothers
that cried for losing their sons i wish your mother to cry over your coffin.
I wish to you to taste your own medicine sick bastard."

Beryoza.....eat schit and die!

I Hail The Flag

 
 

nappyheadedHO
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Re: Western Reports on Greek Atrocities in Cyprus!!!!!!!

September 22 2008, 3:19 PM 

Dirty scumbag i hope that god pays you with the same coin the same you said
for other ppl that suffered and had pain.Karma is a bitch and pays you
back well for your words and actions!Hope the payback will come soon scum.

 
 

ANTI-TURK
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Re: Western Reports on Greek Atrocities in Cyprus!!!!!!!

September 22 2008, 3:37 PM 






 
 

nappyheadedHO
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Re: Western Reports on Greek Atrocities in Cyprus!!!!!!!

September 22 2008, 6:12 PM 

Whats the matter Greek cocksuckers, you dont like the taste of your own medicine? Take a good long hard look at those pictures I posted, thats the price you will pay if you phuck with Turks, we will wipe your sweet stench off the face of this earth and only leave your mothers behind to cry after you. Your end will befitting of a nation of cowardly schit infested cockroaches!

I Hail The Flag

 
 

nappyheadedHO
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Re: Western Reports on Greek Atrocities in Cyprus!!!!!!!

September 22 2008, 6:30 PM 

I deeply wish to you what you make fun off and mock to happen to you.
I sincerely hope to taste the same pain the suffering scum.

 
 


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Re: Western Reports on Greek Atrocities in Cyprus!!!!!!!

September 22 2008, 6:38 PM 

Yes yes we know...now kindly limp off and phuck yourself!

I Hail The Flag

 
 

Rzecz
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Re: Western Reports on Greek Atrocities in Cyprus!!!!!!!

September 22 2008, 7:27 PM 

@ karabasan1974

Warning issued to you for posting pictures of dead. Do not do it.

Siege of Tobruk - One German POW said: "I cannot understand you Australians. In Poland, France, and Belgium, once the tanks got through the soldiers took it for granted that they were beaten. But you are like demons. The tanks break through and your infantry still keep fighting." Rommel wrote of seeing "a batch of some fifty or sixty Australian prisoners ... marched off close behind us—immensely big and powerful men, who without question represented an elite formation of the British Empire, a fact that was also evident in battle."


 
 
Nikephoros
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Re: Western Reports on Greek Atrocities in Cyprus!!!!!!!

September 22 2008, 7:43 PM 

Lol, muslims are just jokes when they pretend to be tolerant and try to fool people into believing in their mythical tolerance.

Let us look at the metamorphosis:

September 21 2008, 10:36 PM
Quote:DirtyDirtyBird

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Greek Cypriot men on their way to Turkey to die!



September 21 2008, 11:24 PM
Quote:DirtyDirtyDirtyBird
Nikefartos...stop trying to make this about religion, we Turks have lived side by side with Christians and Jews in peace for centuries, its Greeks who are the religious zealots not Turks! ...


September 22 2008, 6:12 PM
Quote:DirtyDirtyFanatic
Whats the matter Greek cocksuckers, you dont like the taste of your own medicine? Take a good long hard look at those pictures I posted, thats the price you will pay if you phuck with Turks, we will wipe your sweet stench off the face of this earth and only leave your mothers behind to cry after you. Your end will befitting of a nation of cowardly schit infested cockroaches!


You can see what kind of loser DirtyBird is and Turks in general from the above...

He posts fanatic hateful ****.

Then he tries to lie using muslim characteristic of dissemulation to pretend that Turkey, Turks are tolerant and Greeks are fanatics...

Then he moves to saying how Turks will wipe out all Greeks.



GUESS WHAT TURKOMORON:


I told you already Cyprus had a population of circa 500,000, only independent since 1960... The National Guard started to seriously form only after 1967(when the Greek brigage left the island), there was an 18 percent traitorous Turkish muslim minority and a civil war between Greek Cypriots at the time of the Turkish invasion of '74. So using this to example to prove you can wipe out Greeks just shows you are worthless idiot fanatic like most your countrymen.

You are real tough guys Kemalist-muslim morons, you proved you are "soldier nation" by invading a Cyprus with the situation going on above.

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thought that this might be just Turkish journalists creating a bullsh*it story also. Probably is seeing as our journalists lie a lot.


    
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nappyheadedHO
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Re: Western Reports on Greek Atrocities in Cyprus!!!!!!!

September 28 2008, 1:10 AM 

First things first :

@ kavkazboy : (Yawn) Have a nice day.

secondly : since some people don't know the whole history

- In Cyprus first there was a vote to unite with greece.
- This vote ended with more than 90% in favour of reunification
- In that period the turkish cypriotic population was only 14% ot the total
- In order to counteract the unification, turkey send some insurgents to the island to stirr up the turkish cypriots to protest against the unification and to rebel.
- A greek cypriotic group did kill some of those "rebels". (yes, we are men enough to admit it)
- Now for the further evolving of the whole operation, turkey wanted to interfere.
- But therefore it needed approval of the English and Americans
- To keep control over the island, for the english and americans it was good to have the island divided, so they gave green light to turkey.

Now :
- Turkey would never have dared to invade and occupy 1/3 of the island without the green light of america and england.
- They start a war against a tiny island and have also the back up of super powers. (real hero's, aren't they, waaaaaaaaaaw)
- Now they are left with their dick in their hand, everyone knows why ....
- And to counter that they come up with such propaganda like here above, rofl.

And paradoxally :
- with one side of the face, they are whining for the fact that greek cypriots did kill some turkish rebels and insurgents
- with the other side of the face, they are laughing and full of joy for killing and deporting over 3000 greek cypriots.

Man, these guys make me laugh and throw up at the same time ....


 
 
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