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wow, thats beautiful!!!

Any saved artifacts from the könlishe sluss?

The smartest thing would have been to save the eastgerman communist glass buildig and then build upp the old prussian palace in front of it so that it could mirror itself in the glass facade of the modernistic building which was built on its ruins in the position where it use to stay























The new building can not be the same as the originial but Im glad that they build it up again the descision to destroy it was wrong but perhaps it will be wrong to to destroy the building that replaced it since it is know also of historic value ?











The style of the Prussian palace was more cool and pompous then tasteful but very impressive overall







The Federal Reserve Scam!















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The new building can not be the same as the originial but Im glad that they build it up again the descision to destroy it was wrong but perhaps it will be wrong to to destroy the building that replaced it since it is know also of historic value ?

It is seriously infected with asbestus ...

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A German Soldier doesnt die, he goes to hell and regroups !

@Shlawa i was wondering about the artefacts who was in der shluss , are they still around or looted?

only very few statues have been found

they dont even know were the ahes of the old castle went to

It is a very expensive project, but I am for it because of cultural and aesthetic reasons. The Palast der Republik was an extremely ugly structure anyway.

""only very few statues have been found

they dont even know were the ahes of the old castle went to"

@Ger_Mark thanks.

When was the orgininal palace destroyed? and why?

it was destroyed 1950

commies wanted to destroy imperial past and build their new palace upon its ruins









the castle will finally give some structure in that aerea, fill the huge empty place and it will harm with the nearby dome perfectly. thos commies ruined the whole aerea. alexanderplatz is just on the other side of the castle. hopefully it will also give an impulse to this aerea to destroy this crap buildings and buid something new.

When you step on the alexanderplatz you suddenly feel like your somewhere in eastern europe. poland or ukrain. its terrible.

For what the nazis did every german household should have been ordered to erect a Zhukov monument on their front yards.

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Get out russian-american and jewish troll. This thread is not about your favourite soviet heros.






Napoleon auf St. Helena: "Hätte der Himmel gewollt, dass ich als deutscher Fürst geboren wäre und hätten Sie mich einmal zu Ihrem Kaiser gewählt und ausgerufen so scheint mir noch Heute, dass Sie nie von mir abgefallen wären und ich Heute nicht hier sitzen müsste."

Hey, check out that awesome architecture,



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The funny thing about this picture is that the russian criminal holding the other does have 4 watches in the original LOL






Napoleon auf St. Helena: "Hätte der Himmel gewollt, dass ich als deutscher Fürst geboren wäre und hätten Sie mich einmal zu Ihrem Kaiser gewählt und ausgerufen so scheint mir noch Heute, dass Sie nie von mir abgefallen wären und ich Heute nicht hier sitzen müsste."

poland or ukrain. its terrible.

And here is another stab you damn emo. And you were complaining in the other thread. Damn emo.

Count yourself lucky Berlin wasn't levelled like you levelled Warsaw you barbarian.

Siege of Tobruk - One German POW said: "I cannot understand you Australians. In Poland, France, and Belgium, once the tanks got through the soldiers took it for granted that they were beaten. But you are like demons. The tanks break through and your infantry still keep fighting." Rommel wrote of seeing "a batch of some fifty or sixty Australian prisoners ... marched off close behind usimmensely big and powerful men, who without question represented an elite formation of the British Empire, a fact that was also evident in battle."

Im sorry to have hurt your feelings but its ugly as hell. krakau looks much better.






Napoleon auf St. Helena: "Hätte der Himmel gewollt, dass ich als deutscher Fürst geboren wäre und hätten Sie mich einmal zu Ihrem Kaiser gewählt und ausgerufen so scheint mir noch Heute, dass Sie nie von mir abgefallen wären und ich Heute nicht hier sitzen müsste."

What cities? You have to name them.

Siege of Tobruk - One German POW said: "I cannot understand you Australians. In Poland, France, and Belgium, once the tanks got through the soldiers took it for granted that they were beaten. But you are like demons. The tanks break through and your infantry still keep fighting." Rommel wrote of seeing "a batch of some fifty or sixty Australian prisoners ... marched off close behind usimmensely big and powerful men, who without question represented an elite formation of the British Empire, a fact that was also evident in battle."

Those soviet soldiers that put the flag up their first isn`t even on the picture they where forgotten

The Federal Reserve Scam!

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Those Soviet soldiers put that flag up three days after Berlin was conquered.

Siege of Tobruk - One German POW said: "I cannot understand you Australians. In Poland, France, and Belgium, once the tanks got through the soldiers took it for granted that they were beaten. But you are like demons. The tanks break through and your infantry still keep fighting." Rommel wrote of seeing "a batch of some fifty or sixty Australian prisoners ... marched off close behind usimmensely big and powerful men, who without question represented an elite formation of the British Empire, a fact that was also evident in battle."

Looks great but this can never be the same as an original building. It would look too shiny and clinical. But with time, who knows? It may age like a good wine, say, in a hundred-year time. They should raze the entire quarter as well and rebuild just like the old. This quarter looks every bit of a communist town. Get Baron Hausmann there.

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De Gaulle to the General Koenig, Norman hero of Bir Hakeim: "Hear and tell your troops: the whole of France is watching you, you are our pride."[

Agreed. They should rebuild the entire area. Problem is they could turn Eastern Berlin in a modern city and by pass keeping the historical aspect like other cities in Europe. This is similar to Warsaw which doesn't possess any sort of historical background like Krakow, Gdnask, Poznan so on. Warsaw is quickly turning into a skyscraper hub... Maybe Eastern Berlin could become such a place alongside the historically rich West?

Siege of Tobruk - One German POW said: "I cannot understand you Australians. In Poland, France, and Belgium, once the tanks got through the soldiers took it for granted that they were beaten. But you are like demons. The tanks break through and your infantry still keep fighting." Rommel wrote of seeing "a batch of some fifty or sixty Australian prisoners ... marched off close behind usimmensely big and powerful men, who without question represented an elite formation of the British Empire, a fact that was also evident in battle."

For what the nazis did every german household should have been ordered to erect a Zhukov monument on their front yards.
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A zhukov statue of him raping a child you mean?

Nope, a Zhukov statue of him turning Berlin into a Khatyn memorial, he eradicated fascism from that ugly city.

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Ahh a Khatyn memorial, tell me, did you rapist of children ever apologize to the Poles for that mass murder...how about a memorial?
No, of course not, why would a Russian apologize, when a Russian thinks it's ok to rape children and than murder them!

No one can compare to Nazis when it comes to rapes, millions of women sexually violated by barbaric savages in concentration camps. It was nazi policy to kill or burn slavic people, including women and children, they were the best at it and for that the scum was wiped from the earth thanks to Zhukov. Berlin burned for that, and for that the nazi cockroaches were sent to siberian gulags were they were ass raped by the guards.

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No one can compare to Nazis when it comes to rapes, millions of women sexually violated by barbaric savages in concentration camps. It was nazi policy to kill or burn slavic people, including women and children, they were the best at it and for that the scum was wiped from the earth thanks to Zhukov. Berlin burned for that, and for that the nazi cockroaches were sent to siberian gulags were they were ass raped by the guards.
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Have another drink, you drunk uneducated moron.
If there is one undisputed fact, it is, that there is no bigger murdering savages than Russians.

Knock, knock! This is the 21st century. Let's move on.

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De Gaulle to the General Koenig, Norman hero of Bir Hakeim: "Hear and tell your troops: the whole of France is watching you, you are our pride."[

Easy for the French, not for us in the East.

Siege of Tobruk - One German POW said: "I cannot understand you Australians. In Poland, France, and Belgium, once the tanks got through the soldiers took it for granted that they were beaten. But you are like demons. The tanks break through and your infantry still keep fighting." Rommel wrote of seeing "a batch of some fifty or sixty Australian prisoners ... marched off close behind usimmensely big and powerful men, who without question represented an elite formation of the British Empire, a fact that was also evident in battle."

SHHHHHH






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No one can compare to Nazis when it comes to rapes, millions of women sexually violated by barbaric savages in concentration camps. It was nazi policy to kill or burn slavic people, including women and children, they were the best at it and for that the scum was wiped from the earth thanks to Zhukov. Berlin burned for that, and for that the nazi cockroaches were sent to siberian gulags were they were ass raped by the guards.

No one can compare to Nazis becouse no one can compare to Soviets who raped more woman & children on there march of "fredom" then the Germans ever could have (BTW the Germans didn't rape the Jewish woman becouse they thought of them as under mensch), & who killed more citicens & people of there owne under far worse conditions then they ever could have seen by German hands.

East German Capital Makes Way for Prussian Palace
By Cameron Abadi in Berlin

The halting pace of the building project at the center of Berlin will move ahead this week by two full steps: a Communist building will be gone and designs for a Prussian building will be unveiled. None of which means the arguments around the project will be coming to an end any time soon.

It's fitting that on the day that the final remnant of the Palast der Republik, the former capital building of communist East Germany, was scheduled to be cleared, a hydrolic shovel broke down, thereby forcing the foreman to push back the demolition from Wednesday to Friday.

It is not the first form of delay and postponement, second-guessing and backtracking encountered by this project. Ever since its 1989 reunification, the city of Berlin has been involved in one form or another with the clearing of the old East Berlin landmark -- most recently as a prelude to the reconstruction of the Prussian-era Berlin City Palace that once stood on the site and had been itself demolished to make way for the communist building.











Weighed-down as it is by the political symbolism and historical significance of its real estate, the plans have always seemed designed to stir up controversy in the German capital. This week, the plans should move ahead two full steps: not only will the final concrete pillar of the Palast be removed, but an international jury will select an official architectural design for the replica of the Berlin City Palace that will take its place.

Many residents of the former East Berlin have fond memories of the Palast der Republik and have been reluctant to see it go. Bearing a distinctive bronze-glass façade, the building was opened in 1976 to wide fanfare, and was designed to serve both the East German Communist Party -- as a conference hall and parliament -- as well as the common people. The Palast served as one of the few populist recreational gathering places for city residents: among its public amenities were a bowling alley, an art gallery, and concert halls.

Shortly after Germany's reunification, the building was shuttered -- it didn't pass West Berlin building codes -- but opposing interest groups quickly put the building at the center of a heated historical and aesthetic debate. Some argued that leaving the Palast in the center of Berlin would be an affront to the victims of Communism; others said that demolishing it was an insult to the experiences of the majority of East Berliners without criminal backgrounds. Many argued that, even empty, it served as a reminder that not every aspect of life in the former East was unremittingly treacherous.

The question of whether to demolish the building was closely tied to a debate over what ought to replace it. Proponents of a reconstructed Berlin Palace -- most prominently, Willhelm von Boddien, a Hamburg entrepreneur who founding a national lobbying group in support of recreating the baroque Palace -- argue that only the old stylings of the Prussian monarch can heal the architectural and historical wounds at the center of the city. Many Berliners argued that the palace would be too expense, too nostalgic and, without a residing royal family, wouldn't serve any purpose.

The German parliament, the Bundestag, eventually decided to provide money to bring down the Palast and erect a replica of the Palace. As the Communist building has been demolished piece by piece over the course of two years, opening a hole in one of Berlin's central cityscapes, the debates over Berlin's communist legacy have reduced in intensity. But as the jury appointed to select a final design for the Prussian Palace prepares to announce a winner on Friday afternoon, the arguments over the replica building have broken into the open with renewed fervor.

There are still concerns that there won't be enough money to fund the rebuilding project: the federal government has committed over 500 million, with the understanding that von Boddien's group would raise the remainder through private donations -- a calculation that has thus far proven too optimistic, as fundraising has lagged. Architects and art historians have also questioned whether there are enough specialist workers in Germany to recreate all the hand-chiselled baroque ornaments that adorned the palace within a reasonable amount of time.

And academics and ethnographers have wondered what sort of curatorial concept, if any, stands behind the government's plan to use the newly reconstructed palace to house a proposed "Humboldt Forum" for non-European art.

Most central of all are still strict aesthetic concerns over expending so much time and effort to reconstruct a building from an era long past. The very architects chosen to serve on the jury have recently criticized the competition guidelines for being too strict and politically motivated. As if to illustrate their point, Wolfgang Tiefensee, the federal cabinet minister overseeing the project, subsequently criticized those jury members for publicly airing criticisms of the project, suggesting they not participate if they harbored fundamental differences.

One way or another, the final remnant of the communist Palast will be removed in the coming days. And on Friday, the German public will receive a better idea of what the Palace that will take its place will look like. And if both of these processes are accompanied by grumbling and second-guessing, that too will be fitting: Berlin has never been a place where the people or their politicians have been temperamentally disposed to making decisions lightly.



http://www.spiegel.de/international/germany/0,1518,593189,00.html






Napoleon auf St. Helena: "Hätte der Himmel gewollt, dass ich als deutscher Fürst geboren wäre und hätten Sie mich einmal zu Ihrem Kaiser gewählt und ausgerufen so scheint mir noch Heute, dass Sie nie von mir abgefallen wären und ich Heute nicht hier sitzen müsste."