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China Sort Of Promises To Stop Stealing Russian Tech

December 22 2008 at 3:36 PM

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China Sort Of Promises To Stop Stealing Russian Tech

December 21, 2008: On December 11th, Russia and China signed an agreement, in which China promised to stop stealing Russian military technology. It appears that the main function of the new "military technical cooperation" agreement is to stop China from exporting their copies of Russian equipment, and competing with the Russian originals.

For the last five years, the Russian government has been trying to deal with the growing problem Russian defense manufacturers have had with China tolerating, or even encouraging, Chinese manufacturers to steal Russian military technology. It's not entire weapons systems the Chinese are stealing (like aircraft or ships), but components. Radars and electronic systems in particular were being copied, often using samples and technical data provided by Russian manufacturers, in anticipation of a sale. What often happened was that there was no sale, and then, a few years later, the Chinese came out with a copy, often a blatant copy, of the Russian radar, missile or electronic warfare gear. The Chinese have produced several copies of Russian artillery systems (like the 2S19M1 self-propelled 155mm gun or several multiple rocket launcher systems.) The Chinese used their status as a major buyer of Russian aircraft and warships to deflect demands that the copying cease. The Russians feared that the Chinese would copy major systems, like aircraft or ships, and continue to ignore Russian demands that their intellectual property rights be respected.

This is ironic for the Russians. During the Cold War, much Western military and civilian technology was blatantly copied, including microprocessors and computers themselves, by the Russians. Since the end of the Cold War, Russia has been more careful about this, because the collapse of the Soviet Union opened up the Russian defense labs, and their large store of discoveries that had not been developed into anything useful yet. American manufacturers were eager to get rights to this technology, once they got a good look at it. The Western firms paid, and the billions of dollars that entered the Russian economy that way forced the Russians to reciprocate, and pay for Western technology they wanted.

The Chinese have been forced by the West to cut back on some of their blatant theft of foreign technology, except for Russian military stuff. The Russians were getting fed up, and the government was under growing pressure to crack down on the Chinese theft. Russia, flush with oil revenues and a booming economy, was not as desperate for Chinese arms business as they used to be. So for the last year, Chinese purchases of Russian military equipment have declined, as the Chinese were increasingly offering stolen Russian technology for export sales. Finally, Russia threatened legal action on an international scale. Thus the new agreement was a Chinese effort to avoid that sort of legal entanglement.


http://www.strategypage.com/htmw/htproc/articles/20081221.aspx

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(Login SuperOsse)
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Re: China Sort Of Promises To Stop Stealing Russian Tech

December 24 2008, 8:52 PM 

Do someone know if the Chines copys were as good as the Russian originals?

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better

December 24 2008, 10:58 PM 

some are even better than the original (J-11B, HQ-9, Type-81 rifle, etc) ... remember japanese copied products were better than the original

 
 

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Re: China Sort Of Promises To Stop Stealing Russian Tech

December 25 2008, 2:27 AM 

lol fatso obestiy faggetry amerikunts nekked bikini incestuosu paedophilia bordellos westerns europs cowboys bordellos its jungel culture sourceds?

it saying everything like amerikunts havied more advanced technologie to russian in every field? propaganda of amerikunts know n e limits?

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nappyheadedHO
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Re: China Sort Of Promises To Stop Stealing Russian Tech

December 29 2008, 5:49 AM 

for the most part the USSR did not outright copy Western technology. What the USSR did do a lot of was buy Westerner machine tools and lithography related machinery.

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(Login Koniev)
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Re: China Sort Of Promises To Stop Stealing Russian Tech

December 29 2008, 8:24 PM 

some are even better than the original (J-11B, HQ-9, Type-81 rifle, etc) ... remember japanese copied products were better than the original
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HQ-9 is no where near Russian S-300 systems ... no where ...

even J-11B is a suspicion to me .. I bet Russian Su-27SM not to mention Su-35 is mutch batter ...

 
 

(Login anglozionazikiller)
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Re: China Sort Of Promises To Stop Stealing Russian Tech

December 30 2008, 5:21 AM 

at least chinegulks learnts to copying well
hendis urin edinrkers dont even copy well heck they haves to beg foreigners for every thingeds
even their smoderators is livings to abroad of its master anglos ? lol

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Aotearoa
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HQ-9 vs S-300

January 2 2009, 3:14 AM 

Quote from Koniev
"HQ-9 is no where near Russian S-300 systems ... no where ...

even J-11B is a suspicion to me .. I bet Russian Su-27SM not to mention Su-35 is mutch batter ... "

HQ-9A is definitely better than S-300, I am not comparing with S-300PMU1/2 happy.gif

J-11B is much better than SU-27, perhaps a slightly worse than SU-27SM and again I am not comparing it with SU-27SM

 
 


(Login mandeep_619)
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Re: China Sort Of Promises To Stop Stealing Russian Tech

January 9 2009, 9:21 PM 

arent they saying that they will stop exporting copied tech?,
it dosent say anywhere that they will stop making it

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