From top to bottom:



1. EU25 Immigrants

2. Africa

3. German resettlers (from Eastern Europe)

4. Middle East

5. Turkey

6. Southern Europe

7. former Jugoslavia

























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A German Soldier doesnt die, he goes to hell and regroups !

That study is played up too much IMO. Integration is a two way street and there is only so much the government can do to support it. All that talk of parallel societies has some truth in it, but despite that IMO Germany's social fabric makes sure that nobody is left "out of the system". Kreuzberg, the supposedly worst borough of Germany is heaven compared to say the Paris northern suburbs.

Immigrants or descendants of those who wish to integrate and contribute to the socienty have all the support they need. Those who don't want, but still follow the rules can stay here and mind their own business and those who make trouble should be sent back.

Simple and fair system really.

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Why is Turkei highlighted in red?

Fear mongering Germans perhaps?

Care to translate this rough language to our understanding? Most dont know anything about shaizen afrehizegn dunkouff gooten tag etc.




Suleiman I in response to Francis Is arrogant demeanor
" I, the sultan of sultans, and the strongest ruler, the loftiest king who defeats the kingdoms around the world, and the shadow of Allah in the Earth, am the son of Sultan Selim who is the son of Sultan Beyazid, Sultan Suleiman, Caesar of Rome, Padishah, Hünkar, Hakan ül-Berreyn vel-Bahreyn; Sovereign of the House of Osman, Sultan of Sultans, Khan of Khans, Caliph of Islam, Custodian of the Holy Cities of Mecca, Medina and Jerusalem, Caesar of the Roman Empire, Emperor of The Three Cities of Constantinople, Adrianople and Bursa, and of the Cities of Damascus and Cairo, of all Azerbaijan, of the Magris, of Barka, of Kairouan, of Aleppo, of Arabic Iraq and of Acem, of Basra, of Al-Hasa, of Dilen, of Ar Raqqah, of Mosul, of Parthia, of Diyarbakr, of Cilicia, of the Vilayets of Erzurum, of Sivas, of Adana, of Karaman, Van, of Barbary, of Abyssinia, of Tunisia, of Tripoli, of Damascus, of Cyprus, of Rhodes, of Candia, of the Vilayet of the Morea, of the Marmara Sea, the Black Sea and also its coasts, of Anatolia, of Rumelia, Baghdad, Greece, Turkistan, Tartary, Circassia, of the two regions of Kabarda, of Georgia, of the plain of Kypchak, of the whole country of the Tartars, of Kefe and of all the neighboring countries, of Bosnia and its dependencies, of the City and Fort of Belgrade, of the Vilayet of Serbia, with all the castles, forts and cities, of all Albania, of all Eflak and Bogdania, as well as all the dependencies and borders, and many more lands that our lofty ancestors conquered with their crushing powers and I conquered with my fire-scattering sword --- You, the king of province France, Francis......."

Why are their flags like the one above? Do the Germans have something to fear?

Siege of Tobruk - One German POW said: "I cannot understand you Australians. In Poland, France, and Belgium, once the tanks got through the soldiers took it for granted that they were beaten. But you are like demons. The tanks break through and your infantry still keep fighting." Rommel wrote of seeing "a batch of some fifty or sixty Australian prisoners ... marched off close behind usimmensely big and powerful men, who without question represented an elite formation of the British Empire, a fact that was also evident in battle."


"As a Internet discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Nazis or Hitler approaches one."

Sorry forgot to post the link to the article.

http://www.spiegel.de/spiegel/0,1518,603321,00.html

PS: Turkey is highlighted because the article questions why it seems harder to integrate Turks.


PPS: Tests with selected specimen have shown that these can be trained into capable German Officers after some Prussian brainwash ^^






A German Soldier doesnt die, he goes to hell and regroups !

So you're telling me African negros who stick out like dogs balls are more likely to integrate to Germany than white Turks?

C'mon, this is preposterous.. Turks no matter where they are, they all have nationalistic feelings running through their veins.

If you classify German integration a method of getting rid of their Turkish identity, having fully assimilated to German values and customs, i don't see it happening in a million years especially when it comes to religion. This is very evident in Turkish minorities within Balkan states today who declined on migrating to Turkey during the collapse of the empire, still retain their Turkish identity proud and strong even after 100 years, in some cases under brutal suppression. Bulgaria has anything close to 1.5-2 mil Turkish minorities, Greece 150 thousand, 200 thousand in Macedonia, some amount in Bosnia & Kosovo etc.

I see my self as person who has fully integrated to Aust way of life, though having born and bred here does have its advantages nevertheless I can't see my self adopting Ozzie culture (if such thing even exists). That doesn't mean i don't love snagging it on the bbq (lamb chops in my case) and crack opening a vb can on the side.. I don't see my self losing my Turkish identity no matter what. This of course will further on continue with 3rd, 4th, 5th gen that will come after me.






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Suleiman I in response to Francis Is arrogant demeanor
" I, the sultan of sultans, and the strongest ruler, the loftiest king who defeats the kingdoms around the world, and the shadow of Allah in the Earth, am the son of Sultan Selim who is the son of Sultan Beyazid, Sultan Suleiman, Caesar of Rome, Padishah, Hünkar, Hakan ül-Berreyn vel-Bahreyn; Sovereign of the House of Osman, Sultan of Sultans, Khan of Khans, Caliph of Islam, Custodian of the Holy Cities of Mecca, Medina and Jerusalem, Caesar of the Roman Empire, Emperor of The Three Cities of Constantinople, Adrianople and Bursa, and of the Cities of Damascus and Cairo, of all Azerbaijan, of the Magris, of Barka, of Kairouan, of Aleppo, of Arabic Iraq and of Acem, of Basra, of Al-Hasa, of Dilen, of Ar Raqqah, of Mosul, of Parthia, of Diyarbakr, of Cilicia, of the Vilayets of Erzurum, of Sivas, of Adana, of Karaman, Van, of Barbary, of Abyssinia, of Tunisia, of Tripoli, of Damascus, of Cyprus, of Rhodes, of Candia, of the Vilayet of the Morea, of the Marmara Sea, the Black Sea and also its coasts, of Anatolia, of Rumelia, Baghdad, Greece, Turkistan, Tartary, Circassia, of the two regions of Kabarda, of Georgia, of the plain of Kypchak, of the whole country of the Tartars, of Kefe and of all the neighboring countries, of Bosnia and its dependencies, of the City and Fort of Belgrade, of the Vilayet of Serbia, with all the castles, forts and cities, of all Albania, of all Eflak and Bogdania, as well as all the dependencies and borders, and many more lands that our lofty ancestors conquered with their crushing powers and I conquered with my fire-scattering sword --- You, the king of province France, Francis......."

When did turcos become white?

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Viele Schwarzer fur die Deutscher??? Germans need to have more Kids

I lived in Germany for 14 years. Not as a Greek guest arbeiter. Most of the Turcos failed to intergrate. They prefered to live in their own gypsy Ghettos, not learn German or try to assimalate. Most had 4 or more kids abusing the kindergeld handouts. Every year they would pack 15 in a Ford transit van and drive to Turkgay. So sorry it's not the Germans fault that Turks feel allienated their. Most Greeks there did assimilate and get an education.

In my opinion it just reflects what general investigations of Germanies education system have shown, that is an elite culture helping "established, educated" families to come off well and transfer their social status to children, while poorer, less educated families have problems and face disadvantages in a lot of cases. Most immigrant families belong to the rather "poor" group. The statistic also shows that immigrants from families with high education parents tend to outperform the German average.

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A German Soldier doesnt die, he goes to hell and regroups !

we should take the turkish children away from their mohammedan parents and get them raised by the army

to flies with one hit






Napoleon auf St. Helena: "Hätte der Himmel gewollt, dass ich als deutscher Fürst geboren wäre und hätten Sie mich einmal zu Ihrem Kaiser gewählt und ausgerufen so scheint mir noch Heute, dass Sie nie von mir abgefallen wären und ich Heute nicht hier sitzen müsste."

"When did turcos become white?"













Since when did a russian slavic a$$hole learn to put words together? russian pieces of shyte.

assos90

The same can be said about Greeks of Aust.. especially the older generation who love to trick the system to gain as much government hand outs and pensions with benefits as they can. Most of the Greeks live on compensation for minor injuries as a form of income, not only do they receive major discounts for transportation, medicine, theater entry, bis discounts entry to places with a fee.. they work cash in hand on the side without the government knowing. They abuse the system and get away with it. They're fraudulent and thievery by nature.

Gyspsy Greeks

lol are you still implying turcos are white?

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Russians are red in the cold, Russians are red in the sun.

Never seen em white...

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Bir daha gel, gel Samsun'dan...

I can see elderly people getting pensions scamming the system to survive because life is expensive, but if you are able bodied and healthy you need to get a job. I am all for prosecuting those that abuse the system so I have no sympathy for any nationality. I pay lots of money in taxes.

as im working in germany i pay taxes that go to this social-money-lickers young unemployed muslim kiddies that "gammels" at the big malls

most turks simply dont want to assmilate into the german society, because they have only turkish friends, live in a high-rise that is inhabited half by their compatriots
conclusion: Germany does HAVE a so called PARALLELGESELLSCHAFT, through mny germans deny that


sure on the other hand their are turks who did get out of this ghettos in the big german cities and are at rthe universities, being educated to form tha higher society of future germany

it is the same with the greeks, the kids of greek descendant thatz grow up in such a neighbourhood cant chieve something in their live

russian are not white they are red like pigs.

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THE SWORD OF ISLAM

@ Filin :

Mhmmm actually millions and millions of turks are more white than italians,spaniards and many more southern european nations. But the western propaganda says : Turks aint white and that becomes fact for most of the europeans.

Btw. I dont think being white is anything good at all. I prefer living in multi-ethnical society as in Türkiye than in a boring mono-ethnical nation.

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To the thread:

Shouldnt the germans be happy about this? They can at least deport all turks much easier Most of the turks in germany know its just a question of time until theyll return to their homelands again.(Due to various reasons)

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really eddy in this point you are right, a lot of turks i know have the dream to return to their country, speaking of many workplaces and a better economy as when their parents left their homeland in the 70´s

@ Simos :



Unfortunately itll remain a dream for most of the turks here because none of them can speak turkish properly. Actually most of the turks in germany live under the poverty line and they wouldnt have to sacrifice much when they returned back. The only ones who would suffer are the self-employed and educated turks who have established their existence here.





Most of the turks in germany however still invested in Türkiye(Houses/Money)to ensure an alternative option in the future.



If you look at these statistics you see that people who dont have any alternative option than remaining in germany are one of the best integrated ones (For example : Africans/Middle East)

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White has as much to do with the origin as with the actual color of the skin, that is the big difference between say italians and turks. I dont think you should blame "propaganda" and understand where the majority of the turks come from. When some turks refer to themselves as being white it makes them look like they are sucking up to the occident. You will never see a Chechens refer to themselves as "white" and they are whiter than the turks.

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you will never hear anyone call themselves "white" outside of the Anglosphere countries.

its a meaningless and outdated term anyway.

the way that nationalism works in Germany means that anyone with non German ancestry will never truely be considered as a German.

German nationalism has traditionally been very ethnic based.

this can be compared to French nationalism where "Frenchness" has never really been based on one's ethnic background, but more concentrated on their cultural background.

there are many French nationalists who have non-French ancestry, such a thing happening in Germany would be very very unlikely

Are the German prisons full of Turcic scums like the prisons of Australia.....

Türkisch Hunde gehören nicht in Europa (Full stop)

Turks in Australia are scum inhabiting scum-cheap suburbs like Broadmeadows.

They can't speak clean English, they are a bunch of losers in Australia, make no mistake.

No one likes the Turk in Oz.

LOL, seems like Karabasan_74 the Islamist retard managed to screw another thread right from the start

The Germans are by far and large the best friends of the Turks since the second half of the 19th century.

Even when they tell us why we aren't still ready to join the EU, they are telling it honestly and correctly, like a true friend should tell.