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Europe is changing - 104 million Muslims in Europe in 20 years.

August 17 2009 at 7:49 AM

Mundine  (Login Aselsan)
The Conquerors (Turkey)

To my fellow WAFFERS,


I saw the following information off a Canadian video that was recorded for the Christian world as a 'Call to Action' due to the emergence of Islam around the world. It took me a while to collate this data so please read it carefully and understand what it is saying. It was a surprise to me and is an interesting read so lets discuss the many points in this thread. Flamers, go away because there isn't anything to flame about here.


In order for a culture to maintain itself for more than 25 years, there must be a fertility rate of 2.11 children per family. Without it, the culture will decline.

Historically no culture has ever reversed a a 1.9 fertility rate.

A rate of 1.3 is impossible to reverse because it will take 80-100 years for it to correct itself and there is no economic model that can sustain a culture during that time.

If only a million babies are born in 2009, its hard to have 2 million adults enter the workforce in 2029. As the population shrinks so does the culture.

In 2007, the fertility rate in the below countries was:

France: 1.8
England: 1.6
Greece: 1.3
Germany: 1.3
Italy: 1.2
Spain: 1.1

Across 31 countries in the EU, the fertility rate was 1.38.

History tells us that these numbers are impossible to reverse. In half a century, Europe AS IT IS TODAY, will cease to exist.

Interestingly though, the population of Europe IS NOT decline. Why? The answer is immigration. ISLAMIC IMMIGRATION! Of all the population growth is Europe, 90% has been Islamic Immigration.

In France, the average family are having 1.8 babies per family but the Muslim population are having an average of 8.1 babies per family. Traditionally, Southern France has been one of the most populated Church regions in the world but now it has more Mosques than Churches. 30% of children aged 20 or below are Islamic. In larger cities such as Nice, Marseille and Paris, that number is 45%. By 2027, 1 in 5 Frenchman or 20% of the entire population will be Muslim. In 39 years, France will be an Islamic Republic.

In the last 30 years, the Muslim population in Great Britain has grown from 82,000 to 2.5 million, a 30 fold increase! There are over 1000 Mosques, many of them old Churches.

In the Netherlands, 50% of all newborn babies are Muslim and in only 15 years half the population of the Netherlands will be Muslim.

In Russia, there are over 23 million Muslims, that's 1 out of 5 Russians. In 15-20 years, 40% of Russia's army will be Muslim.

In Belgium, 25% of the population are Muslim and 50% of all newborns are Muslim. The government of Belgium has stated that by 2025 1/3 of European babies will be born to Muslim families.

The German government, who was the first to publicly speak about the issue stated " The fall in the German population can no longer be stopped. The downward spiral is no longer reversible. It will be a Muslim state by 2050" - German Federal Statistics Office.

Colonel Muammar Ghadaffi of Libya said, " There are signs that Allah will grant victory to Islam in Europe without swords, without guns, without conquest. We don't need terrorists, homicide bombers. The 50+ million Muslims in Europe will turn it into a Muslim continent within a few decades."

There are currently 52 million Muslims in Europe. The German government said that this number will double in the next 20 years to 104 million.

Canada's fertility rate is 1.6 which is half a point below what is needed to sustain a culture. Islam is now the fastest growing religion. Between 2001-2006, Canada's population increased by 1.6 million. 1.2 million was due to immigration.

In the US, the fertility rate is 1.6. If you include to Latino immigration, it increases to 2.11 which is the minimum required to sustain a culture. In 1970, there were 100,000 Muslims in America, today there are 9 million.

In 2006, 24 Islamic organisations met in Chicago and the transcripts of that meeting stated in detail their plans to evangelise America though journalism, politics, education and more. They said that America has to prepare itself for the reality that in 30 years, there will be 50 million Muslims in America.

My fellow WAFFERS, the world has changed. The Catholic Church recently recorded that Islam has surpassed its own member numbers. Some studies show that within 10 years, Islam will the most dominant religion of the world.

Insallah to Islam dominating the world.
Masallah to the Muslims of the world.

Allahu Akbar!

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NCR called Turks uneducated and yobaz's "First of all, winning the votes the majority of the population, which I specifically like to define as "YOBAZ"
(can be compared to the Neo-Conservative morons in the United states) does not imply that the entire nation
supports AKP, and it does not imply that those that to support it are the smartest and most educated people in Turkey."

"Greeks invented sex but TURKS introduced it to women" - Hirotidos Papadopoulos (1452-Just before Istanbul fell to the Turks)

 
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Demir
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The Conquerors (Turkey)

Re: Europe is changing - 104 million Muslims in Europe in 20 years.

August 17 2009, 11:22 AM 

You wasted your time mate;


Debunking a YouTube hit
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/8189231.stm




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Mundine
(Login Aselsan)
The Conquerors (Turkey)

Re: Europe is changing - 104 million Muslims in Europe in 20 years.

August 17 2009, 12:15 PM 

Not at all man because as I wrote it, I remembered it. I learned something that will stay with me. Besides, many people remember things when they read it rather than listenign or watching which is why i didnt post the video.

Anyway, a great read regardless if its from a waff thread or a bbc article.

WOW!

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NCR called Turks uneducated and yobaz's "First of all, winning the votes the majority of the population, which I specifically like to define as "YOBAZ"
(can be compared to the Neo-Conservative morons in the United states) does not imply that the entire nation
supports AKP, and it does not imply that those that to support it are the smartest and most educated people in Turkey."

"Greeks invented sex but TURKS introduced it to women" - Hirotidos Papadopoulos (1452-Just before Istanbul fell to the Turks)

 
 

(Login jesse04)
France

Re: Europe is changing - 104 million Muslims in Europe in 20 years.

August 17 2009, 1:20 PM 

In France, the average family are having 1.8 babies per family but the Muslim population are having an average of 8.1 babies per family. Traditionally, Southern France has been one of the most populated Church regions in the world but now it has more Mosques than Churches. 30% of children aged 20 or below are Islamic. In larger cities such as Nice, Marseille and Paris, that number is 45%. By 2027, 1 in 5 Frenchman or 20% of the entire population will be Muslim. In 39 years, France will be an Islamic Republic.

It's totally forbidden to do survey or counting asking for religion or place of origin.
So, these figures are total fantaisies.

8.1 babies per muslin families ? Come on, how can you imagine that ALL muslin family can 8 children ?

 
 

(Login yasin22)
The Conquerors (Turkey)

Re: Europe is changing - 104 million Muslims in Europe in 20 years.

August 17 2009, 2:01 PM 

8.1 is the speed not the amount of babies lol you idiot lol

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(Login GER_Mark)
Panzer Brigade(Germany)

Re: Europe is changing - 104 million Muslims in Europe in 20 years.

August 17 2009, 2:41 PM 

aslan why waste you time here in euro forum

better look at birthrates of turks and kurds in turkey

you might not be amused


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Napoleon auf St. Helena: "Hätte der Himmel gewollt, dass ich als deutscher Fürst geboren wäre und hätten Sie mich einmal zu Ihrem Kaiser gewählt und ausgerufen so scheint mir noch Heute, dass Sie nie von mir abgefallen wären und ich Heute nicht hier sitzen müsste."

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glitter
(Login jesse04)
France

Re: Europe is changing - 104 million Muslims in Europe in 20 years.

August 17 2009, 5:47 PM 

8.1 is the speed not the amount of babies lol you idiot lol

Re read the article please.

The German government, who was the first to publicly speak about the issue stated " The fall in the German population can no longer be stopped. The downward spiral is no longer reversible. It will be a Muslim state by 2050" - German Federal Statistics Office.
Can I have the link to the german official document stating that please ?



    
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Mundine
(Login Aselsan)
The Conquerors (Turkey)

Re: Europe is changing - 104 million Muslims in Europe in 20 years.

August 17 2009, 11:39 PM 

@ Glitter

http://www.lifesitenews.com/ldn/2006/nov/06110903.html



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NCR called Turks uneducated and yobaz's "First of all, winning the votes the majority of the population, which I specifically like to define as "YOBAZ"
(can be compared to the Neo-Conservative morons in the United states) does not imply that the entire nation
supports AKP, and it does not imply that those that to support it are the smartest and most educated people in Turkey."

"Greeks invented sex but TURKS introduced it to women" - Hirotidos Papadopoulos (1452-Just before Istanbul fell to the Turks)

 
 


(Login GER_Mark)
Panzer Brigade(Germany)

Re: Europe is changing - 104 million Muslims in Europe in 20 years.

August 18 2009, 1:08 AM 

its a neocon church-freak anti islam site

nice that you added the allah akubar below lol

your such an opfer dude


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Napoleon auf St. Helena: "Hätte der Himmel gewollt, dass ich als deutscher Fürst geboren wäre und hätten Sie mich einmal zu Ihrem Kaiser gewählt und ausgerufen so scheint mir noch Heute, dass Sie nie von mir abgefallen wären und ich Heute nicht hier sitzen müsste."

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nappyheadedHO
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Re: Europe is changing - 104 million Muslims in Europe in 20 years.

August 18 2009, 6:00 AM 

Correct or incorrect, these statistics provide an excellent opportunity for propagandizing for the European right.

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glitter
(Login jesse04)
France

Re: Europe is changing - 104 million Muslims in Europe in 20 years.

August 18 2009, 11:58 AM 

http://www.lifesitenews.com/ldn/2006/nov/06110903.html

I asked an official link and I doubt that lifesitenews.com is an official german site.

BTW, could you avoid biased site, with written "Obama anti-life record" all over it ?

 
 
glitter
(Login jesse04)
France

Re: Europe is changing - 104 million Muslims in Europe in 20 years.

August 18 2009, 4:00 PM 

Come on Aselsan, is it all you can do ?

 
 

banner man
(Login moughoun)
Europa

Re: Europe is changing - 104 million Muslims in Europe in 20 years.

August 18 2009, 4:37 PM 

"The German government, who was the first to publicly speak about the issue stated " The fall in the German population can no longer be stopped. The downward spiral is no longer reversible. It will be a Muslim state by 2050" - German Federal Statistics Office. "


There is no official site with that statement on it, because it was never made, read the BBC's article on the Eurabia youtube video, the guy who had supposedly said it, never did.

It's all smoke, mirrors and bollocks

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Which Saxons fear,
In warlike splendour glancing.
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nappyheadedHO
(Login 7castle)
Europa

Re: Europe is changing - 104 million Muslims in Europe in 20 years.

August 19 2009, 2:04 AM 

well france was known for it's crusades and other countries for their love for idiots, so I don't understand the joy in saying crap like these, opening threads like this.

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(Login jesse04)
France

Re: Europe is changing - 104 million Muslims in Europe in 20 years.

August 25 2009, 12:38 PM 

http://www.lemonde.fr/societe/article/2009/08/24/la-france-confirme-le-dynamisme-de-sa-natalite_1231563_3224.html

* In comparison with 2007, there was 1,2% more deliveries.
* The ratio of children per woman is at 2.02, but the figure isn't totally up to date, it should be slightly more.
* 6.9% of children are from two foreigners parents (6,6 in 2007) but that figure goes up to 12,7% (versus 8%) about couple with one non-french parent.

 
 


(Login constantinus)
Member

Re: Europe is changing - 104 million Muslims in Europe in 20 years.

August 25 2009, 3:10 PM 

you know that ****s in the air when a uneducated Muslim(hasnt finished highschool in belgium where writing simbly your name gives you half the points needed to graduate) codes uneducated evangelist from amerika...

for those that want to find the fertilities of Europe, eurostat is the place to go..

for those that don't look aqt my chart...(not islamist pricks-educational sector has wash its hands with you)


i would really like to know though how it is possible the 13 million Muslims of European union to become 105 millions...

another of Koranic miracles?
very likely..
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